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Season 9 has Begun
New Map, New Performance Issues
World Tour Replaced with Social Credit System
Big Needed Buffs to Weapons and Gadgets
Big Unneeded Buffs to Using a Controller

Join "Vidya" to play with other anons
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>>2132426
>Join "Vidya"
ngl i misread one of the sponsors (the white one) as vidya and just joined it anyways because i wanted the famas skin
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>>2132449
Eat a dick, old nigga
You just mad cuz your ass is OLD
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did i trigger a bot
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i like this game too bad it sucks to actually play seriously
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>>2132449
>the FAMAS skin
They really need to start making more Medium skins than the FAMAS, because I've got like 50 of them for all different sponsors because of sponsorships and circuits and all the other shit
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>>2132560
fcar too
it's all famas and fcar
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>>2132560
AK needs some love
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>>2132960
AK needs some love in general. Is there any point in using it anymore when the P90 exists
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>>2132977
AK has better range and better damage falloff
It just needs 4 bullets back at the very least
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>>2132989
Yeah but at that point, it runs into the issue of being outclassed by the FCAR, with the distance being enough that the smaller mag size isn't as much of an issue. I guess the AKM might be able to be considered alright in the sense of being a jack-of-all-trades, but I dunno. I think it could use just a little something, like just a fractionally tightened up recoil pattern now that it's got much stiffer competition that's uber accurate in their respective ranges.
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sex with futa heavy from the finals
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kill yourself tranny
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>>2132977
You got that backwards, is there any point in using the P90, at all? Every other gun mogs the shit out of it
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>>2132313
>>2132380
>>2132435
>people that can't get out of silver btw
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>>2133091
>is there any point in using the P90
It's extremely accurate and has a slight but noticeable edge over the rifles in terms of TTK and kills-per-mag. The range is limiting, but that's easily played around on most maps, and the damage per bullet is already low enough that max falloff doesn't actually hurt it that much.
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>>2133100
Medium needs to be able to play midrange since other classes can't and putting distance between your enemies is key. Even the shotguns have better max ranges. You also don't have the mobility of a light or the health of a heavy so going in with the peashooter isn't too beneficial.

The only time P90s are threatening is when they're stacking 2 or 3 of them. That's like a pocket minigun but other than that, I'd take any other rifle any day of the week
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>>2133120
>Medium needs to be able to play midrange
Which they're still able to threaten with the P90
>Even the shotguns have better max ranges
Stopped reading there. Not gonna reply anymore to anyone that's gonna be disingenuous. Do whatever little dance you want in reply to this, I do no care.
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>>2133129
The model has a min range of 20 meters and max of 30
Granted, the cerberus has the same ranges as the p90 but the cerb does better burst damage and has the fire mechanic

What i'm trying to say is that sustained damage isn't as convenient as high bust damage, regardless of range. It's the same reason why the M60 is completly unused these days. It has better TTK than the lewis, basically across the board, but it's akin to a damage over time weapon. I know neither are really used anymore, but even when they were, the lewis was the more popular choice.
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The Finals playercount is saved
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>>2133207
>it's real
lol
just noticed that the next month's contracts are in an "upcoming" tab
is anything in this season complete? We still haven't gotten the performance patches and even if tomorrow is patch day, i'm skeptical we'll actually get anything
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is defib a must pick?
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>>2133816
probably
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>>2133816
Nope, but Medium has no interesting gear anyway.
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The new map is insanely shit.
There's a single quarter where you can actually push cashouts and fight without everything coming down to pixel peeking the billion slanted roofs.

Also fuck this pattern recognition captcha bullshit.
>>2133816
Are you good and can easily take engagements against more than one person? No.
Are you against good opponents? Maybe.
My friend vehemently refuses to use it and it's cost us games but he's pretty solid so it's not the end of the world.
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>>2133905
captcha stopped working for me and would default to VNQ, causing me to fail it multiple times without knowing
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>>2133816
>Is a fast on the spot revive a must pick?
Its not if you're retarded. Just play heavy or light, they have more flexibility in what gadgets they can pick, with medium, you're throwing if you don't have defib and jump pad/zipline.
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>>2133816
YES.

Do NOT listen to any fucking morons trying to tell you that you don't need defib as Medium if you can just "kill everyone". Clutch revives are some of the absolute the biggest gamewinners, and in The Finals you can regularly get 3rd partied at virtually anytime.

You motherfuckers whine about Lights being selfish, kill-hungry morons and then play Medium with no defib, say "Fuck your teammates" and then LARP as a Light with an AKM.

Stay off Med, you douchebags. The YouTuber you're parroting the whole "No defib" argument from is not helpful. Kill yourselves.
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>>2133905
> My friend vehemently refuses to use it and it's cost us games
Why would you argue in favor of not bringing the defib by pointing out your friend who refuses to use it has cost you countless games? You're basically saying "Yeah, my friend doesn't bring it and I've lost a lot specifically because of him not bringing it, but he gets kills sometimes so it's worth it! Epic!!! XD"
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>>2133816
Yes, disregard anyone who says otherwise, they are retarded
>but the revive sickness
not an issue as long as your body was brought to cover
>buh the half health
between healbeam making a comeback and the light's infuser, the revived player will be at full health before he can move

>>2133905
>My friend vehemently refuses to use it and it's cost us games but he's pretty solid so it's not the end of the world.
utterly deranged statement. Why doesn't he play light if he clearly only cares about kills?
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>>2134072
>has cost you countless games?
Just like your inability to read has cost you countless opportunities IRL.
It's like saying your heavy player using his RPG to kill a light and not having it off cooldown for stalling the cashout cost countless games, there's matches where someone having X over Y or Z loses and or wins it.
Is defib strong? Yeah, absolutely. Is it mandatory? not really.
>>2134124
Because having multiple lights a match is inting far harder than someone not bringing a defib.
90% of the +1 random players you'll get in diamond matches are roller lights and they sure as fuck aren't going to swap just because you've already got one.
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>>2134152
>It's like saying your heavy player using his RPG to kill a light and not having it off cooldown for stalling the cashout cost countless games,
There are plenty stall items. Heavy even has a spec for it and can bring C4. No other gadget can passively revive a teammate.
>Is it mandatory? not really.
Yeah actually, you're kinda throwing if you don't bring it and none of the medium's remaining gadgets are worth having 2 flex spots over it. The single flex spot is already always filled by goo, a nade or zipline.

> you'll get in diamond matches
you don't get to diamond without a defib, nice larp
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>>2134165
>There are plenty stall items. Heavy even has a spec for it and can bring C4. No other gadget can passively revive a teammate.
That's fantastic, not what I argued though.
>you don't get to diamond without a defib, nice larp
Cope.
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>>2134174
>Cope
>shows no proof
hmmk

see this is why I disregard anything that's said here, there are people that unironically vouch to not bring defibs.
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>>2134152
...So you're still basically saying: "Yeah, my friend doesn't bring defib and I've lost a lot specifically because of him not bringing it, but he gets kills sometimes so it's worth it! Epic!!! XD".
9/10 times defib is absolutely necessary, but you're staking your entire argument on the 1 time you might not need it. As far as I'm concerned, you have no right to complain about people going triple Light, because according to your autistic logic there's been triple Light teams that have won games before, so that means triple Light is viable and there's no need to adhere to a meta team composition to directly increase your chances of winning. Why bother with anything meta like bringing defib or sticking to MMH or MHL when you can just bruteforce a single win by sticking to the non-meta after innumerable losing streaks?
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>>2134177
Yeah let me show you a jpg I can easily screenshot from any fucking youtube video dude.
No, I'm not adding some random sperg off 4chan and loading into a match with you to show the skins/emblems.

Cope harder, man.
>>2134181
Calm down Ben Shapiro, I know you're phone posting but learn what a run on sentence means.
>I've lost a lot specifically because of him not bringing it, but he gets kills sometimes so it's worth it!
Yeah that's exactly what I said minus "lost a lot" hehe x3
Just like plenty of other times I've lost games because I didn't have the right gadget equipped for that situation, which was totally not epic, dude.

It's as mandatory as picking the famas and demat. Best option, yeah. Must have? nah.
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>>2134206
> Yeah that's exactly what I said
OK then, so you don't get all pissy about getting called out for being retarded, since of course, you are retarded. :)
Keep your ambivalence about the defibrillator to whatever bot lobbies you regularly play in, chief. I'm glad I'll never have you as my teammate, thank god
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>>2134211
Whoa, hey, you're actually quoting something I said without going into an autistic fit and imagining something else.
Did the risperidone kick in?
>I'm glad I'll never have you as my teammate, thank god
Yeah, I know someone as insufferable as you genuinely has no friends to play with when you frequently sperg out and start hallucinating so you probably stick to the meme gamemodes/world tour.
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I'm liking the new map, the buildings are nice to fight in and around, tons of built in arena movement stuff too.
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>>2134152
why would you use the heavy as a metaphorical comparison against the med
heavy has multiple tools for destruction but med only has one tool to rez people.
If you're honestly trying to pretend that you can't see why people would get angry over someone willingly playing med without the only tool that can revive his teammates, you're an absolute faggot that needs to uninstall the game desu :33
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>>2134219
?
This entire time I've been quoting your gay argument back at you, and you've been getting really angry about it, kek. Idk what to tell you bro, maybe just don't say really dumb shit next time?
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>>2134225
>why would you use the heavy as a metaphorical comparison against the med
I'm wondering how the example keeps going over peoples heads. Autism? The point that was being made is not having the right gadget at the right time can lose a game, it wasn't supposed to be
>lol you don't need a defib you have an RPG!
I'm not pretending I don't see why they're mad, I'm saying it's not mandatory.
They can seethe about it all they want.
>>2134229
>This entire time I've been quoting your gay argument back at you
That's right! You've been quoting it back incorrectly because you whipped yourself into a fit.
You only just then had the direct, unaltered quote and responded to it without warping it into something I didn't say.

I seriously suggest attending remedial English education if you genuinely did it unintentionally.
>>2134223
A solid half of the map is completely unplayable if you don't 3 man gateway drop onto the roofs because there's no way to actually approach the points without losing most of your life from people head glitching on the slanted rooftops.
The dense urban area with apartment blocks and stores are pretty alright but anything to do with the traditional chinese architecture zones are a nightmare if you don't instantly take the highground.
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>>2134247
I've gotten pretty lucky when approaching the traditional structures from the nearby under construction building where the path between them is quite short, the path from the building with all of the windows to the temple is quite a bit more difficult though.
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>>2134247
Sure, bro. And I've quoted back your entire argument so """incorrectly""" that you've gotten superbly butthurt and went on hysterical and entirely unrelated, unfunny tangents/quips about Ben Shapiro, phoneposting, and risperidone.
Hold the L, retard
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>>2134263
Also- I think I see now why you're so hysterical. Because you've been contradicting and arguing against yourself this whole time. Tell me, retard: if your point is "not having the right gadget at the right time can lose a game", how does any of that disprove what I've said about the defib being essential? You can't just say that, and then whine about the defib being considered mandatory.
You're a terminal fag and your shit's all fucked up, man.
Rest in piss
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>>2134252
Even if you get to them you can't really do anything unless all of you drop on a dude because if someone's smart they'll pull the cash outs into the street/middle of the fortress and turn it into a shooting gallery with the ample cover they're given. Had a match against a ruby stack earlier that would drag the vault there every time because they knew it was like pulling teeth to push.
Very clear that they designed the map to look cool before playability came to mind.
>>2134263
No seriously; you type like a retard.
Google run on sentence. You shouldn't be using commas that heavily in your fanfics and you genuinely misrepresented what I typed several times because your addled brain misread it.
>>2134273
>how does any of that disprove what I've said about the defib being essential?
Simply having a defib doesn't win every game, bro. That's why it's not mandatory. You can't defib in every fight, and at higher MMR brackets fights end so quickly that you're not given the opportunity to use it which is why I presume an anon earlier said
>The YouTuber you're parroting the whole "No defib" argument from is not helpful.
which I presume is some popular player because he most likely said the same thing. As I said earlier it's the best gadget akin to the famas and de-mat, none of them are mandatory.
Seriously dude stop seething, my opinion is factually correct and it's okay to be wrong. I know binary thinking is an issue for you autistics which is why I asked if you took your pills.
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>>2134309
Dismiss all retarded bait posters, do not engage with this idiot any further
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>>2134309
I'm only replying now to further reaffirm the simple fact that I've won. I've clearly pointed out your paradoxical hypocrisy, and your childish argument against yourself. Like a frightened and confused, small animal you've been fear-biting not only at me, but at yourself as well. You don't know what it is you're saying, nor do you know what's really ever been happening.
In my magnanimity, I shall graciously accept your absolute defeat, submission, and concession.
I am an argument master, and you lost the very second I had you making points simultaneously in favor of, and against yourself.
I won, pup.
You are dismissed.
DONE.
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>>2134342
Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm baiting.
>>2134345
Not an argument.
Stay mad.
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>>2134348
> B-BUH-BUH-!
D
TO THE
O
TO THE
N
TO THE
E.

DONE.
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>>2134309
Goo is a good counter to the out in the open, shame they keep nerfing it
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The season was such a flop it didn’t even get chinks playing they are now asking arc raiders players to play 3 matches for an outfit LOL
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>>2134465
I think it's time we be honest with ourselves:
Arc Raiders was basically destined for mainstream success in a way The Finals was just somehow never created for. While I'm still not quite sure as to why The Finals has never gained that level of vast, mainstream popularity (Steamcharts over the years pretty much shows The Finals being about as popular as Hunt: Showdown, which is another niche but popular FPS within it's in-group), it cannot be denied that Arc Raiders was uniquely created, tweaked, and engineered from it's very inception to be a AAA game with enormous appeal and outreach. I just don't know how Embark did it, bros. They perfectly captured lightning-in-a-bottle with the wrong (Or perhaps, right?) game...
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>>2134475
Like, even right now in hindsight I cannot fathom how from day 1 Arc Raiders was an immediate smash hit. It just doesn't make sense!
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>>2134481
I'll chime in and say the extraction genre has still be woefully underexplored, and while a lot of fatigue has settled in around it, there's also a large number of people that want to see it competently done. Arc Raiders stood to fill that gap pretty well by
1) Listening to people pretty well over the course of its betas
2) Releasing in full right off the bat, no early access that took almost a decade
3) The $40 pricetag hits the right balance of being a "full premium product" while being reasonable

And then of course people quickly piled into it further when it turned out the gameplay was far less one-note, kill-on-site interactions like other extraction game
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Finals was always to sweaty and light stomping and high TTK games filter people
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the new maps cool
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>>2134819
I like it, although some of the objective spawns are weird. Like the cashbox that spawns in the water.
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BBW futa heavy holding up an extra large tallboy can of Sour Core for comparison
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>>2134846
a
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>>2134481
It kinda baffles me, but in hindsight, they kinda capitalized on the extraction shooter being too inaccessible to the average joe. Tarkov is too complex and cheater filled, wasn't on steam until a little while ago and can be too complex for people. Marauders is dead in the water, Arena Breakout is f2p so it's also probably p2w.
All they had to do was make an extraction shooter for normies and make the game run well and actually release, no early access shit.

Granted, I don't like Arc Raiders, I played the betas and found it a snooze fest, but the production value was never in doubt. Everything else kinda was.
If it were 20 bucks, I'd have even bought it, but 40? Ehh, can't see the value there.
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i love getting 2 light teammates that run into full teams by themselves.
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>>2132560
i realised that shortly after.
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>>2134062
>>2133816
As a massive shitter who doesnt play this game very regularly, defribs + medigun + jump pad seems to be the only thing that makes me feel remotely useful
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>>2134475
Its not that deep bro, its just some starfield extraction shooter slop for normies.
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>>2135626
OH, BUT IT IS THAT DEEP.
STARFIELD WAS A FAILURE.
HOW DOES A STARFIELD EXTRACTION SHOOTER EQUATE TO SUCCESS?
DON'T YOU LIE TO ME, BOY
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>>2134481
>normalfag niggers prefer to grief and act like sociopaths to each other than work has a team like in the finals
Normalfags are buckbroken
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>>2135698
nta, but i thought arc raiders was quite casual and nobody fights eachother because only boomers who want to chill and complete tasks play it.
atleast thats the impression i get from random clips on youtube. i guess the average experience is more like any other game.
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>>2135672
Starfield will just be another cyberpunk where in another year or two people will see it as some gold standard for 2020s AAA rpg slop despite it still being crap to actually play
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>>2135728
one of my steam friends who plays it says it's pretty relaxed
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The Finals was thrown to the wolves as a minimum viable product to allow Embark more time to work on Arc Raiders. The lack of content at launch ultimately killed the game.
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>egged out gold in last season ranked
>horrible luck in placement matches this season
>end up in bronze
>damn
>can't win a match to save my life
>queue with some friends that got placed in gold and are plat now
>should be easy game for them, light boost for me
>we still keep losing
>stuck in debris, 3rd partied, last second steals, evereything that could go wrong does
>they also say the matchups are kinda bullshit, many possibly cheaters or cancer loadouts and strats
>they fell to gold
>they rise back up while I take a little break
>queue up together again after a week
>last place in every match again
I'm closer to reaching 0rs than getting out of bronze now. Is one month really enough to go from being alright to an active deriment to the team and they're too nice about it? Am I just jinxed this season? Is this some kind of purgatory?
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>>2136176
Why would you take ranked in a game like da finalz seriously? Are you retarded? Ranked in the finals is essentially akin to ranked in Apex Legends: absolutely meaningless and defined 80% of the time by luck, 3rd partying, and opportunity
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>>2136176
its still early in the season. Could just be that matchups are fucked at the moment. Im usually a middle of the line plat player climbing through low gold at the moment, and ive been finding pro players in my matches.

Ive been noticing a lot more Cloak Lights in my games recently. Anyone else seeing that?
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>>2136271
pretty sure cloak is slowly going back to being meta due to the grand finals and impending sense of doom thanks to the rumored upcoming inevitable dash nerf
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>>2136280
dash is easily one of the most annoying things to play against
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>>2136271
>Ive been noticing a lot more Cloak Lights in my games recently. Anyone else seeing that?
yes
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>>2136350
Just aim better.
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>>2136628
No
I won't, and dash will still get nerfed soon enough anyways
No refunds :)
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quick cash already seems pretty sweaty for me. should i even bother with ranked?
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>>2136940
Yeah. Each ruleset plays pretty differently. Quick Cash is just 100% third-partying the entire time. Ranked can actually end up feeling a lot less stressful and focus more on macro, at least until you get those occurrences where one team is trying to uplift another for an easier next round.
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>>2135124
does she like light females
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Wabubububububububububu
\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
Summoning buffs for the weapons I like in 3 hours
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>>2136176
You suck
BUT
If you are a lower RS than your teammates (say they're Plat 2 and you're bronze)
the game will assume that you're playing from an alt account/boosting and place you in lobbies with high tier players. The losses are greater, which is why it's ill advised to do this.
You also NEVER play ranked in the first week or so of the new season, rank doesn't through seasons so everyone starts from scratch, even previous rubies

>>2136270
speaking of apex, they do one good thing with their ranked system which is loss protection. If your score drops enough that you're about to drop to a previous rank tier, the game will give you 2-3 chances before actually doing so. I mean, the same applies when ranking up, but overall it's not a bad system.
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What the fuck is this bullshit?

also
>V9S nerf
nice
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>Potentially reduced some in-match stuttering by fixing an issue where shaders from the user cache were not precompiled
You utter fucks
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>>2137125
>the season of gifting is upon us
>so give us and our sponsors more money!
The corporate dystopia we're heading to is at least a bit funnier than the alternatives.
We'll see if the wave of genZ revolutions sweep it away tho. Probbably not.
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>>2137125
lmfao insane that it took a week for the Laugo Alien to receive nerfs.
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>>2137125
it is admirable that they're trying to prop up the miniscule twitch fanbase that they have
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>>2136280
Man I can't wait. Even if its something minimal like reducing the usage count by 1 its gonna throw them all the fuck off.
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>>2136280
>inevitable dash nerf
I pray but it's a "never ever" thing
the blowback would be insane
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>>2137371
ok but one thing is the usual "just watch X ammount of time for reward"
the other is
"actually PAY these people for ingame skins"
Hell no, Hitman did the same thing and it sucked there too
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>>2137426
They've done this before a couple times for The Finals. It was just usually in conjunction with a free thing at the same time. Probably why they extended the current free drop.
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>>2137427
I know, I own like a good ammount of those skins, but I just don't like having to drop money on literal who streamers, it's not like anyone important is playing this game worth watching
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>>2136995
everybody does
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>>2137428
>it's not like anyone important is playing
>implying there's be anyone "important" enough to worth paying to play video games
damn zoomers
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>>2137426
That shit and the stupid clan themed stuff in the shop is so off putting. I know its needed to keep the game alive, but it still feels bad man
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>>2137444
There isn't but every The Finals streamer has the personality and charisma of wet cardboard
they all wanna be pro players so bad that they stream their stupid matches 24/7 to nobody.
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>>2137492
the only streams of The Finals i like are when vtubers i like play the game only to chill out and have fun with friends.
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>play a weapon for a while
>become ass with it
>switch to different weapon
>do amazing with it
>play with it for a while
>become ass with it
Manwhile my friend
>play the meta weapon
>it gets nerfed
>play a weapon that got buffed in the same update
>it becomes meta
>it gets nerfed
>play a weapon that got buffed in the same update

What are some of your silly cycles, anons?
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>New map is only for cashout
Why? I literally do not play cashout its fucking shit.
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>>2139616
Swedes are on vacation, now the players must beta test the whole map before it can be added to other modes
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>>2138677
>Use gun for a lot of matches
>do shit at first
>then do good
>now I want to try new gun
>do shit at first
>continue to do shit
>switch back to original gun
>now mediocre
Me going back and forth between the M11 and the ARN

and then just returning to the 93R alltogether



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