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WE'RE SO BACK EDITION

Guild Wars Reforged just launched, also available for free for all previous GW owners, with small refinements including controller support, a quest tracker, additional graphics options, and (most importantly) an active player base.

We have a /vm/ guild that has been running near weekly events for over 3 years now with over 60+ logins in the last week in our alliance for anyone interested in doing endgame content, new players are always welcome and no prior experience is needed.

Previous Thread: >>2118887

New Guild Wars 1 content is in alpha testing right now, create a new pre searing character to go participate in it. More info can be found here
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedback:Game_updates/20251218

If you want to join guild, post your IGN.

Useful links
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://www.gw-memorial.net/
https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/PvX_wiki
https://wiki.fbgmguild.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://party.gwtoolbox.com/
https://kamadan.gwtoolbox.com/
https://ascalon.gwtoolbox.com/
https://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=welcome

>New player and not sure what profession to run?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSQQe_3P1P0

>Returning player from 2005-2007 era? You might have unobtainable valuables.
https://guildwarslegacy.com/forum/thread/11457-greens/

>GW Reforged Announcement Post
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/announcing-guild-wars-reforged/
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DEEP SUNDAY 3PM EST

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Good luck to all pre-schoolers out there grinding for the title or just starting fresh.
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welcome to cantha enjoy your stay
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I'm almost done with Eye of the North's main story quest (I think?), then I'll do Prophecies, then I'll start working on rep grinds, vanquishes and map exploration while doing Zaishens and upgrading my heroes' gear and unlocking every elite skill. Plenty to do!
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>>2139859
Funny, the condi spam was wild but the main thing that killed me was those damn Elementalists spiking my party
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>>2139859
bro your plague sending?
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>>2139859
pov: an enemy dervish just died near you
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Will alpha changes roll to normal characters after some time ?
I made a new character for reforged release but i dont feel like remaking a new one and throwing 2 weeks of progress and grind down the drain.
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Wintersday today :)
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really wish there was an automatic clearinghouse for perfect weapon mods and inscriptions like there is for runes and insignias
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>>2139892
hopefully, it is kind of telling this whole reforged thing was kind of a rushed experiment when stuff like this comes out in "alpha" and "beta" form... two weeks after the initial hype period but I am glad it has picked up so much traction and attention to begin with, and it's better late than never cuz lord knows when the normalfags and gw2 troons leave in a month we will have plenty more to enjoy here
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>pre-searing
LET IT GO
stop clinging to the past, ascalon is gone
focus on your charr genociding future
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>>2139917
shut up and keep banishing those ghosts, meat
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>scythe of the paragon +5
meme item or still useful to reach +4 in heroic refrain?
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>>2139917
>pre-searing
LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
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>>2139929
might be useful for a hero using a few Paragon skills on secondary, but nothing too crazy
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>that name is already in use
>that name is already in use
>that name is already in use
>roll my hand across my keyboard in frustration
>that name is already in use
what the fuck
I admittedly have not made a new character in YEARS but I had no idea it got this bad. I wonder how many new players this has been filtering the last few weeks.
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>>2139938
try "Kigger Niller"
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>>2139938
Be more creative
I got the name I wanted first try, and it's 100% lore appropriate too
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>>2139941
well it worked but I alt-f4'd before loading because I am not gonna catch a ban for checking
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>>2139929
I don't think it adds 5, it just sets it to 5 if the attribute it below that. So it wouldn't get you to +4 heroic refrain.
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>>2139936
>>2139950
oh, those give you the effect of the primary skill even when you're not in that class
OH
well then, that might be decent on a dervish in city (or some other energy starvation gimmick like Ring of Fire), once you're drained, pop Save yourselves and whatever other adrenal shout and you get energy for another spike
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>>2139963
Yeah essentially all the "of the Profession" wrappings are just a way to get 5 of a primary attribute you can't otherwise ever get. It's neat, but not universally good
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>>2139866
Guild Wars: Beyond is a thing that exists.
You're going to get your shit rocked in Kryta.
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Total schizo delusion pipe dream, but what if they just keep expanding pre in future updates and gradually unlock more and more of the world in a pre-searing state?
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>>2139976
nooooo stop adding new content noooo i need to suffer in my dead game with no players alone forever how i like it stop stop stop
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>>2139978
he right doe
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>>2139978
The choice to exclude old chars is unusual, but I guess it makes sense
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>>2139976
I don't really care for pre, if I'm being honest. I'd rather see nightfall beyond, or a new elite mission
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>>2139986
it's both because they're just testing the new stuff and don't want to fuck with the general playerbase, and because it gives people the option to experience the original version still. I think it's a good compromise, though I wish they'd give you the option to convert an existing character over.
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do you really want to fuck with a decade+ old character using an "alpha" feature the devs say is a buggy mess yn
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>>2139995
No, but it'd be nice to not have to restart the new character I just made for replaying prophecies
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Grinded to lv14 before the update... guess I'll start again with the badges. I hope it's much, much faster to get LDoA, the Hamnet farm is just as monotonous and mindbreaking as death leveling has been.
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>>2139998
You don't have to restart anything. All Reforged does is add buggy changes to henchmen and an empty outpost in the Northlands.
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>>2139998
Can you start a factions character so they add reforged to that campaign a week later too? Do me a solid
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>>2140001
But I get a badge anon :(
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>>2139999
>I hope it's much, much faster to get LDoA, the Hamnet farm is just as monotonous and mindbreaking as death leveling has been.
Should be much easier in theory, between the new outpost making it quicker to get to the northlands, increased spawns there, increased exp gains, and the general health/armor nerf to enemies.
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>>2140002
seething retard
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>>2139929
>>2139936
it can be minor energy management on something like a Seven Weapon Stance scythe build that also has Save Yourselves slotted, or something equally niche and specific
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why does hard mode master reward not count as normal master reward for mission completion?
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>get ldoa on reforged release
>have to do it all over again now on a new character
I guess that's it, bye
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They're obviously adding reforged mode to existing characters later. Calm down you retards
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>>2140026
Proof ?
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>>2140012
No I unironically just want factions content and an willing to sacrifice you for it.
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>>2140020
Of course it's the pre retards that don't know how to move on
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>>2140031
common sense
feature is explicitly still in alpha too
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>>2140026
They will add new content and future expansion will also be badge only for entry. If you don't have atleast the red cool badge next to your name you will be permanently receiving -50% drop rate and it is forever and ever over for you.
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>dc fighting worm queen
>log back in
>dhuum badge gone
time to restart... again
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>>2140046
hardcore in online games is never worth the hassle
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>>2140050
Hardcore is never worth it imo.
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>>2140050
I know I am fully capable of reaching 20 without dying here, I am just autistic as fuck and knowing there is a badge for doing so now is really bothersome because I have to do it now.
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>We have a /vm/ guild that has been running near weekly events for over 3 years now with
add super pie monk
i keep forgetting /vm/ even exists

>>2139892
>>2139916
>>2139991
what it probably is: test server except its not a separate server.
what i hope it is: we eventually get content/balance/etc updates and you get to pick between playing with the new updates or og guild wars as it was left in 2013.
my fantasy pipe dreams: same as above but eyes of the north never came out and the game ended at nightfall.
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Rather than a pseudo hardcore mode, I'd rather have a mode with restrictions on trader NPCs, banks, and non-reforged trades.
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>>2140054
HC is a total meme unless it's an offline single player arcade game, at which point it's just a fun 1CC challenge you do if you insist on playing more
>>2140055
>knowing there is a badge for doing so now is really bothersome because I have to do it now
You don't have to do it. Do you remember any of the video game accomplishments you did three, five, ten, fifteen years ago? I certainly don't. And I doubt anyone else even cares that I (example) killed the Sal Kar secret weapon solo in ChromeHounds before the server shut down. If it's not fun, don't bother. Very important life tip.
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>>2140059
Ethical solo self-found would be very fun
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>>2140080
It is! We do it for our prog runs and it's pretty cool sourcing our own stuff
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>>2140075
10000000000 megaton trvthtsarbomba
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Is master of magic a meme? It kinda feels like one
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'Da Rock
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Is farming the wintersday quest for Ebon Vanguard rep the fastest way to max that title?
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>>2140098
many Ele skills have secondary effects designed to make cross-elemental play for rewarding
MoM make sit easy to do that well, plus enables full use of prismatic insignias
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I'm doing solo self-found no-unlocked-skills run of Nightfall (simulates a new account playthrough) and man I am STARVED for skill points and gold. Had to drop several plat to unlock some secondary professions to be able to buy skills for my heroes and even then they're all running with scraped together bars and almost entirely default gear. Had enough gold for two cap sigs (heal elite for Dunkoro and Avatar for Melonni) but I am constantly broke. Can't sell many drops either since I need to salvage for mats so I can get max armor eventually. Can't imagine what an actual new player who doesn't know shit about buildcraft or where to get skills from woudl manage.

In other words, it's fun as hell.
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Are there any meta-ish loadouts for the Nightfall heroes that are required for missions (Koss, Dunkoro, Melonni, etc.?) Turning all of them into x/Mesmer feels exceptionally fucking retarded, I just want something thematic and strong for each of them that I can use each time I'm forced to whip them out in Nightfall
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>>2140106
considering every domination magic rune is permanently sold out i dont think new players are having trouble anon
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>>2140110
Idk about the others, but for Dunky (or any monk hero) I like to run Unyielding Aura. He can pump heals that way and the hero AI will pretty much auto rez you at full health/energy with it if you ever die.
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should I buy this game?
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>>2140106
I honestly still recommend running a few henchmen in nightfall. Trying to build out 7 heroes is a huge task. Odurra is extremely solid. Cynn and herta are fine. Eve is good on my experience. Sogolon is a really interesting pick imo. Signet of return is low key great. Really the only thing I'd say to try to skill out would be the monk heroes, because I'm not a fan of the monk henchmen bars.
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>>2140117
yes
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>>2140121
I've found henchman to perform infinitely better than stock heroes in default armor, even with customized bars.
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>>2140125
what build should i play? im down to play some sort of suppport/minion guy, i think i can play with npcs if i don't find any ppl to play with? are npcs good or just bad?
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>>2140110
For healers, just run them as mo/me with either unyielding aura or healing burst (word of healing is a fine stand in), a condi removal, a hex removal, power drain+leech signet, maybe ether sig, and then some 1-2 prots and 1-2 heals. More prots if you're on HB. If you have a bip hero you can drop the /me inspiration stuff
There's a funny avatar of dwayna build for dervish heroes that tricks them into aoe healing. They also actually handle pious renewal decently well.
Koss is a bit of a lost cause. I like making him a shout bot for "Charge!" and the like but he's never gonna be great damage cause melee ai sucks, and warrior has a hard time pivoting to much else due to energy issues.
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>start playing at reforged release
>really like the class im playing
>have to restart for a shitty badge if i want to play reforged mode
They should have communicated before, i'm not throwing those 60 hours down the drain, if i do im simply gonna quit or bot the game.
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>>2140146
Bro just make more characters
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>>2140150
Cant read award
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>>2140153
Nothing stopping you from making a second character of the same class
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>>2140156
nta but you did not adequately comprehend their original post, if you did you'd understand why they don't want to start over
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>>2140110
i simply leave melonni and koss with the garbage they start with since they are not forced in any long or difficult missions
pic related is where my patience is at its limit though
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>>2140121
Yeah Herta and Odurra have been mainstays so far. Team looks like pic related currently (about 1/3 through Kourna), and I'm playing paragon myself. I do want to have the entire team be heroes as soon as possible, for the challenge and roleplay. There's some fun gameplay born from limitations in this. For example I noticed there's zero condi cleanse spells available from hero skill trainers in the entirety of Istan, and since I wasn't primary or secondary monk myself I couldn't get any for Dunkoro and Tahlkora until I got to Kourna. So I had to make everyone /P and run Remedy Signet for self-cleanse. Signet of Synergy was also a surprisingly good heal even at very low Motivation ranks for Istan, nice for the monks when basically no energy management was available.
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toolbox updated
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>>2140110
if you are melee run a ray of judgment smiting bar the ai will use it decently well even if you don't use deaths charge or corner pulls. reversal of damage with smiter's boon and strength of honor is high value as well. zealot's fire is decent. can also run the divine favor group heals.
for koss run dagger spam if you are a ranged class or don't want to micro him. run hundred blades if you are melee and willing to do a tiny bit of micro the hero will actually be decently good at following your targets around and aoeing shit down.
IMO x/me cope bars aren't even good. if you have 2 mesmers running an air/earth elementalist or something that synergizes with the player character class is stronger. if you have 0-1 mesmers running aoe spam elemental attunement fire eles is better than fake mesmers and you can get the whole bar (fire storm, meteor, searing heat, lava font, e attunement, fire attunement) in prophecies decently early on.

>>2140134
u can play through the whole game with npcs but the game isn't dead at the moment, you can find 8 man human parties in random outposts without much waiting.

>>2140146
this game actively encourages making a new char each campaign your first playthrough who cares this is an altquest game.
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>>2140110
if youre a melee class any dervish hero bar works good.
if youre a ranged class the aoe damage builds don't work that well with the hero ai so run something more like dwayna or a d/mo healing bar.
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>>2140200
Yeah the mesmer stack really only works kind of in the way the meta team is set up. Typically they need the bip to do work. And fake mesmers just don't have the damage. Lower stats, no fast casting, usually worse energy management. Mesmers before esurge in general just don't have damage. Running sousuke, zhed, and vekk as differents forms air eles is way stronger for normal mode, and you get all of them pretty fast. Can then take Gwen as more pure shutdown.
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>>2140106
I managed to finish all campaigns with 40ar druid armor when I was 11 or so. My armor had three major vigors and shit because I couldn't grasp that they don't stack. All my bows were longbows because it had the farthest range so had be the best. My hero comp was a discordway with starter gear and weapons because I was broke. The game is NOT hard if you just want to finish NM. Just takes patience.

And that character with non-max armor had no attribute quests done.
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>Level 5 on new Charr
>came within single digits of eating shit on the quest to kill Grawls with Devona
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>>2140110
>Koss
Warrior's Endurance Axe with Axe Cyclone or Earth Shaker. Both with Wild Blow.

>Melonni
Just throw in an Avatar Elite build.

>Dunk/Takl
Just use whatever healing/prot/smiter build you have. Use /Me and give them Leech Signet, Waste Not, Power Drain and/or Channeling so they do not run out of energy.

>Master of Secret
Minion Build in fleshy area, Icy Vein/Discord/Spoil Victor/SS in non Fleshy Area. Or Support Necro with BiP and /Rt

>The Corsair
SoS unironically. If you do not want to turn her into SoS, just make her generic interrupter, barrager, or Incendiary Arrows+Ignite Arrows
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>>2140219
>new Charr
getdafakataheah we don't want your kind here
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How bad is woc hm if I have the meta merc team?
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>>2140226
lol my keyboard has some worn our switches that cause doubling but in this case it's fine.
Also I'll be long in the cold dead ground before I call chars toons.
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>>2139984
He's not right "doe", they can make a character with this badge right now. Did they expect a iron-man badge to be added to their character retrospectively? That's not how iron-man works. They're not special because they had the game longer
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Oh no I have to start a new character and play more of the game I love woe is me
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It's a fun thought experiment to try and route good skill upgrades for heroes while maintaining high effectiveness for yourself. I kinda want to do a challenge run where I only use skills I acquire in the run, or just start my alt account ig. Alternative idea would be have my heroes only run exact skill bars of enemies I've defeated.
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>>2140247
it's not an ironman gamemode at all. if you party up with a non-reforged character you get the old patch. you can trade with them, get carried by them, whatever
there's basically no reason not to let people toggle the patch on to voluntarily beta test it
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>>2140251
conceptually multiple characters are anathema
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>>2140140
Start as a necro in prophecies to ease yourself in. They can do support and summon minions.
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>mfw shaman's insignia price
Here I thought Dervish was expensive to kit.
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>>2140251
woe was he
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Why don't players just run Radiant/Survivor insignia?
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>>2140263
I'm fuckin rich
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>>2140272
you can but the +health is less useful than +armor vs most things. people run radiant if they need energy badly
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>>2140272
noooo +armor is 0.16% better
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Still sometimes getting an error where I see the chat box notification where I get a group invite but it doesn't show up on the party window for me to accept. Maybe it's an issue with zoning like you're not actually there because I have to restart the client to "fix" this and it tends to send me back to a previous outpost.
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>>2140272
Health/energy only matters when you otherwise would be at 0, and can make % based prot less effective. Armor applies constantly, and provides more effective health while not diluting heal or prot effectiveness.
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>>2140278
>0.16% better
if you're playing for fun then use what you find, the "share found runes in our party" shit was fun, but a shaman's insig is >25% damage reduction, and full survivors isn't even 10% more hp. it's >250% better
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I did it, too bad the bonus quest bugged. What should I do next? EoTN, nightfall or factions?
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>>2140247
he do be right doe
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Finally got to lions arch
I was told to start the first eotn mission to get 2 heroes. Is there another quick trip to get more heroes I should know before going back to prophecies?
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>>2140287
factions>nightfall>eotn
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>>2140288
>doe
dough*
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>>2140287
factions for sure
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>>2140290
>>2140292
Okay ty. Also, should I make a new character, or can I just continue with this one? It's e/me btw.
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>>2140291
thoughever
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>>2140287
Do factions, then nightfall. Ideally start a new character and play until you unlock region travel. Then choose if you wanna pick up your old character or continue with the new.
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>>2140299
your call
factions has great elementalist skills, if you like playing elementalist you can take it over, if you want to try something else, factions has the most condensed prologue. only 2 missions before everything is max level
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>>2140289
Don't do it, Anon. Your quest log will get AIDS.
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>>2140317
I already did it! Did I mess up?
I just hated the henchmen
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>>2140299
It's better long-term to keep your progress on one character, but playing through the prologue of each campaign with a new character provides significant context for the story. You can still understand what's happening otherwise, but you might not care about certain characters or areas.
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The main reason you make multiple characters is to farm Zaishen coins.
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>>2140320
It's when you go the next zone over to pick up the mesmer hero.
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>>2140306
What exactly is region travel?
>>2140307
>>2140321
I really like my ele, but I also don't want to miss out on the story, so maybe I will make a new one. How do I know if it's no longer prologue so I can go back to my ele?
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>>2140360
I'd say make a rit or whatever you find cool, play til kaineng center, then make the call. there's lore for you coming over from prophecies too, so you can't go wrong
>What exactly is region travel?
when you reached lion's arch and you could map to GTOB or get the quests to go to factions
>How do I know if it's no longer prologue so I can go back to my ele
you leave an island for the mainland and reach the equivalent of lion's arch
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>>2140360
When you get to a port city (Lion's Arch, Kaineng Center, Kamadan) there will be a little boat on your map. That means the quests to hop to another continent have opened up.
In Factions, you leave the island of Shing Jea for the mainland. The first combined quest for foreign characters is Vizunah Square.
In Nightfall, the mission Consulate Docks takes you from the island of Istan to the mainland in Kourna. This is also where foreign characters join in.
You will be at or just about max level for both.
Prophecies doesn't have this. it just throws foreign characters at Lion's Arch where everything is lvl 12 and makes them pick up the story from there.
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>>2140320
go to eye of the north (the location after vekk and ogden join you) to get a third hero
talk to kormir in lions arch to get access to nightfall and do 2 quests there to unlock 4 more heroes + access to consulate docks and once you do that you unlock 3 quests which will also unlock more heroes
mox should be standing outside lions arch aswell for you to pick up
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>>2140272
Even if +HP and +Armor result in equal effective HP totals (I.E. the same total amount of damage, before going through armor, is needed to kill you), armor is superior because it reduces the amount of healing you need. Consider:

You have 400 HP and get hit for 100 damage. You need to get hit 4 times to die.
You have 200 HP, but due to higher armor, you get hit for 50 damage. You still need to get hit 4 times to die.

Your monk who can restore 100 HP per healing spell can only negate 1 attack per cast in the first case, but can negate 2 attacks per cast in the latter case.

Then there's the whole ST ritualist meta comp thing. TL;DR in hard mode, with a particular hero build (ST Ritualist) most damage packets that hit you will deal exactly 10% of your HP. If your max HP is lower, then that means you're taking less damage, which winds up being good for your healers for the exact same reason as explained above.
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>>2140365
>>2140367
Okay, I think I get it, maybe?

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Consulate_Docks for nightfall
or
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Vizunah_Square for factions
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>>2140399
For Factions, it's as soon as you reach the city Kaineng Center, which you can walk to a little bit before Vizunah Square. The game doesn't actually make you go to Kaineng Center until you are quite a bit further into Factions, though.
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>>2140408
Even funnier is that there's literally only 1 enemy group between the harbor and kaineng center, but you don't really go there at all for the main plot until endgame.
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>>2140408
Alright then, I will just focus on factions with new character, learn stuff along the way until I reach kaineng center and see how I feel from there. Thanks.
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Hardcore mode for this game is nuts 99% of my deaths are some random bullshit I couldn't have prevented because I'm a meele cuck, who asked for this.
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>>2140432
>he's not just dying, he's getting hit at all
ngmi
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL99WCPCBUE5GZwrXe2q1epuDrN-MG9ECq
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>>2140432
>vanquishing some area in elona, moving towards next mob but not in combat yet
>suddenly hp is 0
>look over
>elementalist boss hanging out on top of some cliff I didn't see
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qrd on how the event affects drops?
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>>2140452
don't think it has, unless you're northlands pre farming
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>>2140451
Brother of Ascalon... your minimap?
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>>2140453
I mean the christmas event.
I see event themed stuff dropping.
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>>2140458
my bad, you just get christmas stuff like tonics and sweets
there are pvp snowball fights and holiday quests, people group up in toa to farm winter wonderlands for gifts that give you dp removal too
if you get 2x100 candy cane shards you can turn them in for hats too
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>>2140452
Enemies will randomly drop Eggnog, Fruitcake, Snowman Summoners, and Candy Cane Shards, I think.

Eggnog, Fruitcake, and Summoners are just title point items. Candy Cane Shards can be given to collectors and I think turned in to get festival hats.
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>>2140432
>Oh, you aren't casting Vow of Silence or Spellbreaker on yourself at all times? lol get fucking spiked retard, gg2ez no re
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>>2140432
>Their eles in HM
>Slayer of all, nuker of heroes, god amongst mere mobs
>Your eles
>Wimpy, damage mitigated to half, relegated to bitch work bonder/prot infuser
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>>2140451
i hate that shit so much
>running to next pack
>fighting for a few seconds until I notice no one is healing me
>turn around
>heroes are throwing their projectiles into a wall fighting a pack on top of a cliff
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why is the Christmas music not playing
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>>2140472
>use teleport-to-target spell that ignores obstructions
>enemy is directly above or below you but if they are 1 inch higher than some kind of unknown height limit the spell whelps
>meanwhile melee heroes can remotely melee someone 50 feet below them
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>https://www.2weeks.games/
Guild Wars CANNOT STOP WINNING
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>>2140478
>if they are 1 inch higher than some kind of unknown height limit the spell whelps
65% sure it's whether or not there's a path to them on your compass. gw doesn't have a z axis, it just has traversable paths that change height
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Hopefully something they add to pre-searing is some more skills from Halbrik. For example he doesn't provide a single pet skill other then the prereq skills to have a pet at all.
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>>2140488
I don't really get the point of more presearing stuff, especially the 4 player party size
it's a peaceful comfy limited explorable area you mostly explore solo with simple tools available to you, the northlands was your little challenge that you'd take an ally up to beat. once you start adding tons of skills and dungeons and shit it becomes something different
I get the appeal for marketing and not messing up balance but I'd much rather they built some new mid or endgame thing
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>>2140494
>I don't really get the point of more presearing stuff
People have been perma-pre for 20 years now, people like playing in pre, adding more stuff to pre gives the people who like staying there more to do. I don't get why this is so hard to understand.
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should i get back to this game?!
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>>2140494
This is just a practice run for them.
Assuming they actually want to do something with GW, pre-Searing is small and self-contained so a team can re-learn how to work with the game without breaking anything complex.
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>>2140494
it's literally an alpha
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>>2140499
it's literally free to do so if you already have an account, so sure bro
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>>2140497
>I don't get why this is so hard to understand.
because the appeal of staying in pre is tied to the things they're changing
I'd get it if they were adding like more explorable areas south of the wall, but that's not what they seem to be trying for, and definitely not what someone asking for more skills is asking for
>>2140502
obviously, what's your point
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>Lt Greywind is on about a secret mission from Rurik
>Adept Mullenix has some dialog about lost settlement very near Piken
>something about "great treasure" or "immense power" in some ancient text translation
I FUCKING TOLD YOU, ALTERNATE TIMELINE WITH NO SEARING WHERE IT IS PREVENTED WITH SOME ANCIENT MAGIC PROTECTION!!! HERE WE FUCKING GOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>2140504
did they add anything new with this update, besides pre searing stuff? I came back randomly in 2021 and played a lot for like 2 years, then dropped it again :(
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>>2140499
Trust in the digits, return to Ascalon.
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>>2140507
This most recent update was just 4 man parties in pre-searing, and an outpost north of the wall to skip the gate thing. The anniversary this year added some new weapon mods across the whole game that had some slight build implications, but were mostly just better energy management. Also they made the preorder exclusive weapon skins available as very rare drops so if you like farming for rare chase items there's some new ones.
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>>2140505
>because the appeal of staying in pre is tied to the things they're changing
no it isn't? People like pre because of the comfy atmosphere, nothing they've changed has affected that.
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>>2140512
new weapon mods sounds interesting, will check it
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>>2140518
>nothing they've changed has affected that
they only added like 3 things so far and one of them (4 player parties) definitely does. making it so you don't go cross the wall also makes it feel different imo
to put it another way, is hanging out in the eotn charr area the same as hanging out in pre? what makes it different?
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>>2140521
Anon what the fuck are you talking about. If you don't want a 4 man party don't join one. If you want to get a monkey to open the gate for you, do it. Nothing they've changed makes pre less comfy. You're retarded.
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>>2140527
why are you calling me retarded when you don't understand something this simple
the thing that makes pre what it is are the limitations. if you could map back into pre, even if I choose never to leave, that would make it different. making something easier that's now the obvious right way to play makes it so the default experience and feel is changed. a week ago being in pre meant running across the wall, people did it thousands of times daily. a month from now, no one will do it
you're like someone telling people they can still do a droks run on warrior if they want, and nothing's changed
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>>2140537
You're a fucking retard.
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>>2140540
you don't understand how games or people work at all, you don't even understand what I'm saying
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>Henchmen have been retuned and are more powerful with additional skills.
I can't believe not one of you have cataloged any changes.
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i wish shing jae and istan were also self contained areas like pre searing
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>>2140544
>you don't even understand what I'm saying
because what you're saying is retarded
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>>2140551
How so?
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>>2140553
have you ever considered teaching rhetoric at your local community college
you can tell your students about calling someone retarded 5x while not convincing them they're wrong in any way
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Finally, I can retire
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>>2140560
Maybe I could teach them that trying to convince a retarded person of anything is a futile endeavor, so just calling them a retard is a better use of your time.
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>>2140567
I see
kys retarded faggot, slit your wrists, jump off the nearest bridge
am I doing it right
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huh what are the effects of this shout
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>>2140582
applies the condition "autistic rage" to enemy troons
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>A new build of Guild Wars is available
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>>2140587
I JUST WANT TB AND KAMADAN TRADE SEARCH TO BE FUCKING STABLE AAAAAAAAA
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>guy named Presearing Azn Baal runs by
I haven't seen "azn" in a username in many years.
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>>2140591
decltype has been stable this whole time.
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>>2140587
Why is this an Elite again?
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>Start a character to be a prema pre-sear for the first time since owning the game in 2005 and opt in for both badges
>die being dumb, lose the badge
>delete and re-make
>die being dumb again
>delete and remake
>die again by slight miscalculation at level 9
You know what, I don't think this grind is for me.
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>>2140615
cheap pressure version of foc for blood
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>>2140587
Which also means GWToolbox is borked for a good few hours again
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toolbox-niggers stay losing
next is eotnigger skills only being usable in eotnigger
trust the plan
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@spiritwiki
What do I need to know about Wintersday?
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>>2140551
I wonder why they stopped. Pre/Post-Affliction is equally significant, at the very least.
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>>2140617
Congratulations, you realized hardcore is a waste of time. Learn from this lesson and never bother with hardcore retardation again.
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>>2140620
>>2140648
toolbox is working just fine after the update btw
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sexy guild wars girls where?
>>2140666
hardcore iss only going if you're playing skyrim with adult mods where your char gets plapped and when you lose you start all over again
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>>2140659
>New optional pre-affliction zone for Factions is made that takes place in Kaining City
>The Faction pledge system is present as a reason for players to have a character stay but it's Jade Brotherhood vs Am Fah, as young rival street gangs trying to carve out their territory
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>Check github for gw tool box
>all the users are white men
>devs are white men
>written in c++ and c
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>>2140687
>cmake as build system
not that white anon
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>>2140615
triggers dark aura while life stealing back the health loss if you hit enough dudes
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bros im confused as new player
what campaign should i start with?
what class should i start with?
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>>2140695
prophecies
Warrior, secondary class Monk
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>>2140695
prophecies
warrior (monk secondary)
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>>2140695
prophecies. Tick both REforge and Dhumm box
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>>2140695
Prophecies is the best new player start since it's easier and doesn't have the grind of Nightfall or the sudden difficulty spike of Factions, pick whatever class appeals to you because while some are easier to beat campaigns with than others, they're all fine. It's a slow and steady campaign. Be advised that Monk is very much a party-healer class even though it has damage spells, so unless you want to spend your time mostly healing pick something else as the main profession. Secondary is up to you, but give the time to try each one out in the tutorial area. I can offer that as a new player, choosing Warrior is perfectly fine but I did notice it was a lot easier to keep tabs on the rest of the party and what they were doing later in the game as a ranged / caster class sine you aren't having to give a lot of your attention to your own position, but that's more of a IRL skill issue.
Do not concern yourself with chasing titles or achievements, those are grinds for experienced players who need a tickbox to chase.
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>>2140695
Prophecies
Doesn't matter
Never leave pre, stop the Charr.
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i like the new pre searing stuff but i dont want to play my pre characters anymore until the alpha content is added to the main game
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is toolbox in shambles now cause theres daily updates?
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>>2140739
The toolbox and 2weeks devs mentioned that GWT was being updated to work more easily with game updates rather than break every time.
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>>2140695
prophecies
necro, mes, or ele
play with levelmatched players in pugs, or henchmen if unavailable
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I heard missions are shorter past Prophecies, is this true? Is there less running in general? Things feel far apart.
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Lol what happen to YOU MUST START WITH NIGHT FALL BECAUSE MUH HERO suggestion
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>>2140759
that's a discordite suggestion. we generally say play each campaign in release order, or at least each one up to region travel if you wanna use one character for all of them. Factions start is objectively the best for repeat characters though
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>>2140759
we like to have fun and enjoy the game here
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>>2140759
theres not really any point to heroes if you have no skills unlocked anyways
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>>2140759
>dude jump around 3 campaigns, spoil yourself on the end of 2 of them before even starting them, and build a team that plays the game for you. never struggle, never experiment with the core mechanic of the game and reason to play it
how about no
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>>2140757
Missions are shorter on average, there are still some long ones. There are far more primary quests and more time spent between missions. Overall campaign length is

Prophecies > Nightfall >>> Factions
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>>2140769
desu it's not too hard to unlock decent skills for mes, ele, or necro. create a quick NF alts, buy mistrust and some of the early stuff. the issue is ritualist skills. Basically none of the good skills are part of skill quests, so even a rit alt is rough
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>>2140757
More or less, by comparison some Proph missions feel padded but that's also because they tend to not be too challenging except for one or two encounters throughout what is regularly a 25+ minute activity. With a couple of exceptions the Faction missions are quick but can be brutally hard, Nightfall is a mixed bag and EotN's equivalents to missions that push the story forward mostly are easier versions of the dungeons. But if you mean the area between missions that don't deposit you right into the next one, well, part of game is exploration and working your way from one place to another.

>>2140759
Spoken from people who have no interest in 'beating' games, just inefficiently speedrunning them so they can check off the box on their backlog.
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is it so much to ask for one good smiting elite
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NO ENCHANTMENTS THIS SIDE OF THE WALL
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>>2140790
wish they had made smiter's boon elite
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>>2140776
how does a new player know which skills are decent or that you need to be focusing on mesmers eles and necros?
instead of following a guide and trying to spike your power level in a pretty easy game, you can just play normally
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>>2140793
fuck you izzy
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>>2140790
roj, shield of judgement, I like defender's zeal even if it's not "good"
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>>2140793
an elite reversal of damage. something quick casting and recharging. just change balthazars pendulum literally been dog shit since it was introduced
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>>2140805
full party reversal, five energy .75s cast 8s recharge
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>>2140810
way too much. just want more ammo for smiters boon. izzy was afraid of monks having too much damage and healing but i think we are so far beyond that point now
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>>2140816
it's still only a single packet of damage with no healing. pain inverter except shitty and elite seems fine to me.
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>>2140818
8x75 damage+8x75 healing every for 5 energy every 8 seconds (less with buffs)?
maybe we just nerf pain inverter
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>>2140816
who the fuck is izzy
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>>2140844
Balanceman of yesteryear who cursed us with esurge and then fucked off forever.
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>>2140844
did balancing 45 years ago

the game is still in the state he left it in so hes still relevant
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>Update - February 19, 2026
>In this update, we're focusing on Smiting Prayers to enable a damage-dealing playstyle for Monks in PvE. Divine Favor will also be improved to be competitive with other support profession options
>Divine Favor: Now reduces the cost of all enchantments by 4% for each rank. Also reduces recharge time of all signets by 3% for each rank
>Scribe's Insight: Energy gain increased to 4. Now increases cast speed of all signets by 5...50%
>Smiting Prayers
>Balthazar's Aura: reduced recharge to 20 seconds
>Bane Signet: increased damage by 50%, reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Banish: increased base damage by 50%
>Castigation Signet: increased damage by 50%, reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Defender's Zeal: now additionally deals a small amount of holy damage when its effect triggers
>Holy Strike: increased conditional damage by 50%
>Holy Wrath: can now self-target
>Kirin's Wrath: this skill has been reworked into an attunement for Monks that enables offensive caster options. Enchantment spell. 15 energy, 1s cast time, 30s recharge. For 35...60 seconds, you gain 5...40% of the base energy cost of any spell you cast that targets an enemy
>Ray of Judgment: reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Signet of Judgment: increased damage by 50%, reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Signet of Mystic Wrath: reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Signet of Rage: increased condition damage by 50%, reduced recharge to 15 seconds
>Smite: reduced recharge to 6 seconds
>Spear of Light: reduced recharge to 8 seconds
>Stonesoul Strike: this skill has been reworked. Now simply deals holy damage to target and adjacent foes with no conditional effect.
>Symbol of Wrath: reduced recharge to 12 seconds
>Word of Censure: No longer has conditional increased recharge time. Base recharge increased to 15 seconds. Now inflicts dazed when hitting targets below 50% health.
>Zealot's Fire: now also inflicts burning when the effect triggers. Reduced duration to 20 seconds. Reduced recharge to 12 seconds.
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Did Gwen always follow you around when you map traveled, or is that new? I don't remember her ever following me to Wizard's Folly, but she's hanging out with me now while I farm lodestones.
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>>2140823
no healing, df would only trigger on one party member. maybe cap the damage at 40 and exclude minions and spirits.
an elite rod would be one of three things
>multi-target
>multi-use
>hex or condi clearing
2 retreads spirit bond, 3 i just don't like the feel of. quick small full party prot is an unfilled niche and it would give monks back a little something vs spirit prot.
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>>2140861
>quick small full party prot is an unfilled niche
shield guardian?
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>>2140867
Aegis too
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>>2140867
oh yeah, 20s cooldown though



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