New year, new you edition. For discussions related to FFXI. Do not post about private server drama because no one cares. Also, no one cares about Phoenix vs. live servers - play what you like. Keep your delusions in a journal. Yes, this includes you schizos posting about random names in a FFXI thread and staff trying to damage control under the guise of anon.Retailhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrivate serversCatseyehttps://catseyexi.com/Edenhttps://edenxi.comEventidehttps://www.eventidexi.org/HorizonXIhttps://horizonxi.com/Resourceshttps://flippantry.com/skillchain/http://www.ffxicalculator.com/http://www.pyogenes.com/ffxi/timer/v2.htmlhttps://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Main_Pagehttps://classicffxi.fandom.com/wiki/Classic_FFXI_communityhttp://campsitarus.blogspot.com/
Previous threads: >>2121496 and >>2148485At this rate we may have to move boards.
>>2163009OP is a premature ejaculator edition
OP is a fucking faggot edition
>>2163014/vg/ moves too quickly and we don't want the schizo spam just to be there
Is the holiday free shit still going on from SE?
>>2163029Return Home ends on the 5thDiscounts end on the 15thPick your poison
>>2163009OP need to let the old threads autosage edition. The 500+ post thread is going to be aroundForAnotherFucking Week
>>2163097/vm/ is simply slow. Not enough new threads to have the overdue ones disappear quick enough.
>>2163009Does Eventide even have more than 20 people playing on it?
>>2163115Yes. You can check their Discord.
>>2163115>>2163121https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIPrivateServers/comments/1q0nnqv/eventide_1_year_update/The owner themselves says the population "floats around 50 online"
IMO Catseye CW mode is better than anything else currently. Tier 1 incursions are just so perfect. They replace dunes parties with level capped fort ghelsba, giddeus, and Palborough mines. The level 20 weapons you can make with currency you get from doing it are extremely overpowered and perfect for doing level cap 20 and 30 garrisons every day. No AH so you have to earn everything you have on you.
new server... doko...?
OP is super salty she was banned from Phoenix.
>>2163157There are two predicted for 2026 but no release dates.
>>2163157https://phoenix-xi.com/home
>>2163128>cosmeticscringe, how do we kill the wowtr00ns? we need to just kill any fag that mentions cosmetic garbage outside of a things like constumes as a regular mob like bones or rarab
>>2163157https://zenithxi.com/ZenithXIsovlbros... soon...
>>2163399Unfortunately I think this server is DOA. Their repo has not had a serious update in weeks.
>>2163399I'm excited to see how the OG game plays.
>>2163410It’s not the OG game, it has trusts and out of era skills and abilities.
>>2163433I'm not using trusts. I want to see what the game was like before Zilart with the level cap being 50.
>>2163433So does Catseye and Catseye isn't a bad server outside of their piss poor server admin decisions.
>>2163397quiet, boomer
https://phoenix-xi.com/blog/phoenix-flames-issue-02It is confirmed: Unstacked items on PhoenixXI. An actual good change for once
>>2163462With level 99 abilities? Lol
>>2163613So glad I'm prebanned.
>>2163615We’re glad you’re banned too, Setsuko
>>2163613>crafting materials didn't stack in eraliterally how the FUCK did anyone play this game in 2004
>>2163642Kipling is a pedo.
>>2163657They leveled crafting and stacked things in the field. Invest in your character and you reap the rewards.
>>2163665No one cares if any of the staff are pieces of human trash because they are producing a new server to play on.
>>2163613BASED BASED BASED BASED FUCK NM CAMPER NPCERS AFK GATHER 30 HOURS A DAY NIGGERS BASSSSEEEEEEEEDDDDD
>>2163613holy fucking based
>>2163722Meds time Sets.
>>2163613Phoenix needs to cap AH listings at 7 and completely get rid of mog wardrobe.
>>2163915
>>2163613helmer on suicide watch
Is crafting skill up rate going to be adjusted for unstackable items? If not I’m not wasting my time with that.
>>2164057Absolutely not. That’s not era
>>2164057skill issue, see you never retard
>>2163657Most people dicked around and got stuck in the 40s-60s or a couple of years until square made the game far easier. Probably the biggest change to the games difficulty was sneak/invis being added desu. Completely trivialized all dungeonsReminder that people uniorionically got hard stuck by cop missions because they had bad gear, ate wrong food, had wrong subjobs and only had slots for 1 job that was probably supbar.Go watch any 15 year old 240p rare clear of these missions, it's pretty much the top 1% just realizing how to get 95% acc and have /nin unlocked lol
>>2164057It's not that bad, it really just means you will have to travel back to town more often and not AFK farm/gather in one spot for 12 hours, will have to prioritize inventory slots more. Brings value to a ton of itemsBasically encourages "playing the game" more
>>2164108I remember a lot of the CoP fights being real cockblocks for the community. Starting with the Promys and then the Aqueducts. I had LS members getting cucked by the Snoll fight and then 6-4 was truly the great filter. I remember beating 6-4 with only our Black Mage alive at the end but it was on our first real run with polymers. There was barely any documentation about what to do afterwards as well, we had to use babelfish to translate some JP blogs and it was like having to solve a riddle because the translation quality was so awful. Even figuring out the next steps to complete missions could be hard back then.
>>2164129Yeah. The game is just a lot easier with knowledge and community toolsPeople do just output far more damage now with gear swapping becoming standard practice, and understanding how acc/attack works instead of tping in str gear.I feel like it was far more common to see 0 damage hits back then.People actually have sneak invis pots on hand now, and maps/walkthroughs so less waiting on someone lost.People know how to get gil easier now to afford meds, and up to date weapons. A haub was rare in xp, now it's standard gearFor instance that comment about linkshell members being stuck on snoll is completely gone if they just could afford icraus wings and had proper tp, ws sets setup which I doubt for the era.People also just gravitate to better jobs in larger quantities, it's easier to get ahold of brds mages and dds with /nin today than having to make do with dd/mnk or some shit because they were your only actual choice. It's a million little things that made the experience easier before we even get into the p server shit
>>2164110This isn't gonna make crafting any less of an afk activity though. Walking from town to town for vendor items is already as mind numbing as watching flies fuck for 10 minutes, you might as well be afk. Now that time is doubled. Is it really a fresh and exciting experience and "playing the game" for you?I get that unstackable items and no inventory space makes them more valuable, how is slightly higher skill up rate going to ruin that?I only care because I like ranger, it's always an awful experience in the beginning of all servers, so I prefer to craft/gather for my own ammo, I don't care about selling to AH. Dudes in this thread yap about not wasting time with 10k EXP parties (like it wasn't 90% of parties in era) then turn around and say this is the peak ffxi experience. If you still had to pay $15 a month for this none of you would be here.
>FFXI in 2003>Everything's chill, everything's fun, everything's cooperative. About the journey not the destination. Community literally the best any MMO had ever seen. >>FFXI in the modern era>Dualbox & Botslop. It's no longer about the adventure or making friends, more than -any other game in existence- it's about eating your time. People unironically recommend having at least 12-15+ hours a day free for just grinding. Hardly anyone talks, community actively spites nostalgia tourism. Why play?
Thread OP is an ultra faggot. "Don't post about private server drama" >Proceeds to post about private server dramaGo choke on your own dick OP
>>2164188did chatgpt make this post
Incoming Phoenix implementing all of ToAU on LSB and Horizon magically being ToAU ready. Phoenix being open source is nice and all but they're just helping Horizon. They should go exclusive with their ToAU content for awhile so Horizon can't mooch off of other people's hard work.
>>2164230Let the 1 guy left coding on Horizon retire in peace.
>>2164230They are helping everyone, including people who might want to make a future server. It's not a bad thing.
>>2164230That’s why Phoenix is based because they are helping everyone even at their own expense. It’s about time. All these retards hoarding shit has fucked progress.But yes horizon will shamelessly take credit with isn’t attribution. That’s what they do.
>>2164174I played this game in era. Outside of my static which was very good and averaged about 8k an hour(this was before exp rings in any capacity or Corsair was a thing) random PUGs got about 3-5k an hour. Private servers are easier than retail was.
>>2164174>(like it wasn't 90% of parties in era)retard
>>2164245Horizon is Nasomi 2.0 in every meaning of the term. That faggot stole code and got caught doing it.
>>2164245Aerec in 4 months: "We've been hard at work behind the scenes at Horizon and we've got all the ToAU content ready for you! And we're launching 3 days before Phoenix! We totally wrote everything ourselves, please believe us!"
>>2164252They are currently passing off updates done by Phoenix and LSB maintainers as their own work on the rebase. It’s so gross.
>>2164259What do you get out of having a huge population server besides a bunch of man children you have to police who break the rules?
>>2164252>That faggot stole code and got caught doing it.kek really? nasomi predates my awareness of the private server codebases but im not surprised
>>2164268What do you get out of shitposting about stuff you don't care about all day?
OP is maximum faggot, they literally never played FF11 and stays for the drama.
what do people who've been playing horizon since launch without taking breaks even do on the server nowadays?
>>2164280I used to be in a LS with a guy who wrote code for wings and he was talking about some signature he put in his work and he said someone told him Nasomi copied his code over and got screenshots of the whole thing. It was a bunch of years ago so I don't remember exactly what it was but it was verified
>>2163915>>2163915TRVKE STRIKE
>>2164259Phoenix should sneak in some code that only impacts level 75 players negatively and then patch it out like 5 days after their server releases, would be really funny if Horizon steals it and it impacts the server.
>>2164174rng is cheating anyways /shrug
>>2164203balding bald boomer retailtards seeing a single - and not stepping further into dementia challenge: impossible to guage
>>2164230Are you dumb? that will keep the horizon endgame shitheads (currently holding all of the pserver cancer meta nolife faggots) quarantined to their fallout zone and off the new servers. This is the right decision.
>>2163915>Ensure that literally no low level items or materials ever get listed in AHMog warobe idea is cool but people want to gearswap so that aint happening, would be interesting though
>>2164390>>Ensure that literally no low level items or materials ever get listed in AHvs>one crafter gigafaggot checking ah listings every minute on the website floods all profitable/breakeven crafts to keep lower level creates crafters out
>>2164397>one crafter gigafaggot checking ah listings every minute on the website floods all profitable/breakeven crafts to keep lower level creates crafters outBecause there isn't a compromise? Bro giving everyone 3 pages of AH slots isn't going to enable what you are saying.
>>2164174crafting isn't the problem, it's everything else. And the intention is to help prolong economy health, not some sort of achievement of "look, we're playing the game harder because we're extra masochistic!" That's why it's retarded do things like what >>2163915 suggested.
>>2164341lmao, figured
>>2164355so chatgpt did make the post?
>>2164260Wow, this totally doesn't happen IRL, no, never. Who cares.
>>2164469How much do you get paid to suck Horizon cock? Does it pay well?
>>2164469woman post
>>2164489Yeah Rahne is a mod here. She shits up these threads.
>>2164496Nice a promotion from jannie to mod.
>>2163613>unstacked itemsBased.>mog wardrobeOof, thought Phoenix was era.
>>2164511Hey Rahne
>>2164174>>2164247Pserver xp rates are higher because more optimized parties, xp rings, and also people keep forgetting like every pserver that uses "era" xp rates is actually using the wings ez mode buffed rates lol
>>2164129>had to use babelfish to translate some JP blogslmao, nice
>>2164174>as mind numbing as watching flies fuckdon't knock it till you try it
>>2164619Seriously? On a blue board??
>>2164626it's futa too
>>2164629I'll allow it.
They should make Guilds only open for 8 hours a day.They should give Guilds a 2 day weekend. Imagine working for 7 days a week (Vanadiel weeks are 8 days) and only getting a 1 day weekend (you still have to show up to work). I think the guild vendors need the me-time that a 2 day weekend provides.Hell, you can even make the guild workers take time off too. No Advanced Synthesis Support for you pal, I'm on my smoke break. Oh and by the way, I got 15 days of vacation time that I plan to use for Vanadiel December, so you better prepare for when I'm gone.Then they should delete the AH and make it so that you have to walk to each person's bazaar to buy anything. That way you don't get 7 free inventory slots in the AH, and it encourages you to walk to more places and for people to stand in the marketplace, making the game feel more alive.They should make it so you have to barter with the souls of the deceased enemies in order for them actually drop loot. You gotta trade them money or an equivalent good to have a change to get their loot. Imagine just getting free items when you kill enemies, that hurts the economy, won't someone please think of the poor little Bottom Line!
>>2164673never cook again
>>2164673Make it so ONLY main accounts can buy from guilds. It's disgusting that some subhuman can login on an alt and perfectly get premium items priced cheaply. Actually I'd rather they just make all guild prices always at the maximum, OR make it so the more skill you have in the synth, the more reduced prices you get. I would do the same for standard NPCs, but make fame more dependent for those, but no fame gained from repeatable quests, you have to do every quest for maximum gil gained from buying/selling. God, I would fix this game
>>2164722>no fame gained from repeatable questsactually good idea
>>2164404I thought you wanted unlimited. 21's not bad that's good actually. That's good to increase flow and to give space for the NPCable things which is good for more craft production/accessibility/spread, which is better for all players in the server.
>>2164731finally, a way to kill ninja.
>>21646732 days is fine if it does actually increase productivity (and means faster refreshes/higher stock of items so I don't have to camp it like an NM at store open).>Bazaars onlyWoah woah calm down there Tanaka did you forget about what happened to 1.0's launch get back in the hospice Tanaka>>2164722this, it's literally just fags logging their alts at NM spots, fucking gay, literally just fighting with demons 24/7 if you want to get ahead
they should just make it so no guilds restock automatically. All stock is based on players selling to the guilds. Bump up the sell price to encourage selling to guilds and not just pawning everything to the AH
>>2164739BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASEEEEEEEEEEDThe meta is so lame and boring.>muh shadows & pierce/2h progression>muh black mage endgame
why don't we just get rid of subjobs?
what's up with the bombs that spawn at 5:00 am in Horizon
what if we just permanently banned whoever the richest person on the server is every single day and redistribute their items to random players? wouldn't that help the economy?
>>2164749Nobody fixes bugs anymore.
holy based raping the autistic crafting gather market jewnigger even before the server started, this is much better content than literal who spammers
they should make it so you have to pay real money to put things up on the AHthey should make it so you can invest in the guild stock market with real money
>>2164764You're not thinking modern enough, there should be a prediction market built in game, where you put up money to guess which window the HNM will spawn at, which linkshell claims it, and what drops.Make it use DKP instead of real money for true chaos.
>>2164756OUR wealth, comrade.
>>2164776
why are the names in my LSB fucked up occasionally, for NPCs that is. It's like the list in the game all got shifted up/down by the same amount entirely. NPCs called sign posts, vice-versa.Actually it's worse, even the models are swapped? I just remembered a taru NPC in a cutscene was a Mithra and xe was doing taru animations in the Mithra body. pls respond
what if we decreased movement speed to 3
what if we put a daily craft limit depending on your rank like how we have limits on fishing and digging. Level 0 can craft 10 times, Level 1 can craft 11 items, Level 2 can craft 12 items, Level 70 can craft 80 items, Level 100 can craft 110 items, etc. etc.
>>2164792This but reverse it
what if you could only craft at certain places, like how you have to cook a galkan sausage on a specific fire pit, make it so you have to find a loom to do clothcraft, and only one person can use the loom at a time
Phoenix should only allow players on Windows XP and dialup modems
>>2164795instance them all off too for good measure so you have to wait 30 minutes for someone else to finish crafting.
>>2164798gotta whip out my japanese ps2 to get updates a month early
what if we had crafting levels like how they work beyond level 70, you only get a limited number of levelsso we give everyone 150 levels total they can allocate, so you can put 100 into one craft and 50 into another, or 50 in three different crafts, or like 20 in every craft
what if we had crafting skill rates permanently at level 70+ rates, so you need to make like 6-8 items before getting 1 skill upand ONLY +0.1 skill ups
>>2164798sovl
what if we made it so crafting is ACTUALLY affected by day and moon phase and constellation alignment but not tell anyone
what if we made it so that crafting failures have a chance to decrease your craft rank, like how in combat you can lose exp and level down when you die
what if we just got rid of HQ crafts
>>2164477When you suck Kipling's cock, does he rest his big belly on your head?
>>2164916Can't get a good blowjob no matter how much epussy he chases.
who?
my keyboard's shitty N-key rollover is fucking me up, I can't walk diagonally, move the camera, and press my Weaponskill menu macro button at the same time. It just straight up doesn't register anything more than 4 keys pressedI have Q as Accept and E as Cancel, so I can't even move diagonally left with W and A and press Q to target things at the same time, nor can I move diagonally right with W and D and cancel or lock off things with EKeyboards don't even advertise how much N-key rollover they have, is there a way to know how much rollover a keyboard has without buying it first?
>>2164937are you gaming a keyboard from fucking 2010?
>>2164945this bad boy cost me $5 when I bought it 15 years ago, yeah
>>2164945i'm using a Logitech k350 that's probably that old, I only still have it because it's perfect for ffxi. thing's an old piece of shit otherwise.
>>2164527>>2164511>>2164496Is this why new threads keep being made? there's 3 ffxi threads now. Are they making these to stay in control/ power trip?I'm hearing more and more stories about this bitch. Yikes.
what if we banned everyone who posted some literally who name in the /vm/ threads on 4chan.org
what if we banned everyone who complained about people complaining about literally who in the /vm/ threads on 4chan.org
what if we banned everyone who didn't complain about literally who on the /vm/ threads on 4chan.org
>>2165007The ban list would be 1 person who just samefags with different names every few months.
what if boats had weekly holidays
what if areas had weekly holidaysyou just can't access Dunes on iceday
what if fish spawns were realistic and if too many people fished up a fishing hole then all the fish would be gone permanently and you'd have to take fish from the ocean and release them back into fishing holes and wait for them to go through their mating season once a year to repopulate the fishing holes
what if fishing routes were realistic and fish would get caught so much and you'd depopulate the Mhaura/Selbina line and you'd have to take increasingly more and more expensive charters further and further out to the open ocean to find more fish
what if species had Endangerment charts and could permanently cease to exist if you hunted them to extinction too fast
what if the fish in water supplies too close to cities had eaten too much microplastics in the water and all the people constantly eating Sole Sushi start getting random headache debuffs every couple days for seemingly no reason
what if using too many fire crystals could cause air pollution and reduce the amount of mobs that spawn due to poor environmental conditions
Can (You) stop samefagging you retard.
>>2165027that's not what samefagging means
>>2164779IDs shifted with the client bro. rebase and the december version update for shifts is in
>>2164469>>2164477> 500 for the rent> a vegas meetup> all expenses paid to vegas meetup> ambiguous buff to whm relic> 4 year subscription to discord bot fixes> access to insider trading and upcoming server infoEveryone knows now. Don't say anything and try keep a straight face whenever they show up on someone's stream or ffxi event.
>>2165071>>2164489> Tickets for front row seats at Semicolons funeral.
>>2165061huh? I don't understand. I did this in nov like 2 weeks ago, are you saying lsb wasn't updated on IDs for months until now in dec?
>>2165155The guy who normally does the version updates did it late, that's all
>>2165205guess I just follow the database update tut in the quickguide then? already doing it btw inb4 bricked
>>2165237nah dbtool is basically fine gro
>>2165247>no more fucking NPC called sign-post or vice versaholy based.... we're so back
>>2165007If you did that, then you'll ban Whinersolstice too.
literally who?
Why the fuck do we have 3 threads up on a dead board
>>2165296horizon schizo (current OP) is a faggo
>>2165298>OP is a faggosay it ain't so
does the bonus exp from cp rings give conquest points?
>>2165296We just love discussing FFXI which is why we have 1k+ posts!!!!!!
>>2165347Supposed to.
>>2165351so they basically refund themselves? very very epic
>>2165365sounds like socialismcease immediately
>>2165366OUR conquest points
Why did the op post so much about this Phoenix server in the very first post? Why are there 3 threads of ffxi?
>>2165504>>phoenix>mfw this is first post >>2163014>literally just linking last threads>mfw realize OP is a double retard and didn't even link the last thread besides not including Phoenix/Zenithamazing
>>2164346omg this.
>>2165514Definitely seems an agenda there. I'm late to the convo but did someone get offended or uncomfortable that Phoenix is building momentum?
>>2165527Scared Horizon staff had to rush to make this thread to whine about Phoenix.
Phoenix has a lot of momentum and the support of key parts of the private server community. Horizon is losing steam and much of the private server community folks hate them and don't want to help them. So yeah, they're scared. They've been operating for three years and still can't release TOAU. If Phoenix gets it before them, the server may as well shut down.
I play retail and I really couldn't care less about any of that bullshit
>>2165365Yeah but keep in mind on whorizon, emperor costs 1100 cp to refresh, that's 11k exp just to break even.
>>2165639Chariot gives 12k and requires 1200 Conquest Points, they all break even
>>2165556I don't think it matters, the slow rollout of ToAU will still bleed players to a new server because all the no lifers have had 3 years to max their characters and they have nothing to do other than farm Dynamis on alts.
Any non-mentally ill folk here? You're not allowed to post ITT.
>>2165696true. soon as toau opens a week later they'll be like where content???
>>2165556People are all realizing that Aerec is as big a faggot as everyone said he is.
>>2165886Fake DMCA takedown notices.
Horizon has stolen Ashenbubs assets for too long. you're right.
>>2165696Is it really now Year 4 of cop? yikes
why do i keep missing on raw sneak attack swings
>>21659433 years anon. Math isn't that hard.
>>2165908It's a shame horizon did that to ashenbubs. Ruining the ffxi community one artist at a time.More and more people are joining the Phoenix discord and it feels good to see. Maybe Ashenbubs will play for a new team.
>>2165955His art is shit. Fuck the HD textures and weird anime eyes.
>>21659533 years have fully completed.We are now in year 4Learn to read and learn to math cunt. Feels bad when someone shows you you're wrong.
>>2165963Woman hands typed this.
>>2165951where are you playing gro?
>>2165908>>2165955>Ashencucks
I hope Phoenix succeeds just enough to either match or beat Horizon online numbers so all the people who only suck Aerec's dick because of population numbers bail on him.
We have 3 threads and 3 different OPs. Which is the correct one to carry forward?
>>2166028I hope it fails just to see the schizoposting cease.
>>2166035you fucking retardthe schizoposting was MORE rampant when it was just cuckrizon
>>2166036You fail to see the people schizo for Horizon are the same people who schizo for Phoenix. I've studied months of posting by these people and it's just nonstop obsession with pserver staff thinking they're "friends" and "inner circle". They sit in every Discord hoping to catch a glimmer of subtext so they can rush here to post about "being in on it". Think anon. All it takes is the servers failing and this person not having an outlet before they finally find another game. They will move to FFXIV.
proofs?
>>2165958Who had the ultra detailed lower jeuno HD textures? I remember a dat swap where you could read all the posters on the wall and all of the bricks on the floor in certain zones. The shop where you get the tarut cards had stuff you could read. It wasn't ashenbubs and I can't find it anywhere now.
>>2166056It bleeds out as well I was watching some old british guy play on twitch and there were younger guys you could hear in discord literally talking about the drama we see on this thread, name dropping setsuko and kipling etc even though I am 99% sure they are turbonormies that don't actually come here
>>2166160>>name dropping setsuko and kipling etc even though I am 99% sure they are turbonormies that don't actually come here>britishinteresting...
>>2166164they are all gay
>>2166175brits? yea man idk what their problem is
>>2166160Honestly not surprised. It's even crazier when you consider Setsuko hasn't played pservers since 2023 and Kipling isn't in the pserver community at all. People bring their 20 year old vendettas and think they garner favor by trashing talking literal whos thinking there's some elaborate scheme and they know when it's just parroting schizos. It gets even worse when you look into other names mentioned here. Some aren't even players on FFXI.
>>2166190>woman hands typed this>>2166035>the dev simp of the woman hands typed this>>2166056>the same woman hands typed this.The succubus is upset that everyone now knows she's a bitch. Virtue signaling and clout farming is not working anymore.> Private server staff inner circleIf you think private server staff is transparent about anything then you are a clown. How many secrets, insider info, and privacy breaches has hugin leaked to his ekittens via DMs in order to gain epussy points?
>>2166257Proof?
>>2166257Meds time!
>>2166257only a problem on horizon btw
>women on the internetimagine
>>2165981windurst, all areas, saruta horu tahrongi, sneak attack has like a 70% acc rating at best, regardless of monster level, seems worse than regular hits vs too weaks even
>>2166029who cares more ffxi is based, just have them all opened/pinned
>>2166274Can't you see all the Whinersolstice posts complaining about the OP?
>>2166092I haven't heard that but the only texture changed that looked good I've ever seen yet is on Zenith, when the schizo posting about the phone app unironically made me find their YouTube channel and see the game texture showcase. maybe they mention what it's called on there
>>2166273sounds sus bro
>>2166276you will never be relevant
>>2166282Could ask on their YT vids if it's not explicitly listed.
>>2166287Shut the fuck up Casey.
>>2166272they unironically are for this game, hadnt interacted with a women in a long time in an online [actual] game community until playing horizon, even if still a rather rare occurrence.
>>2166292Why would you admit to something like this?
>>2166276the what
>>2166291who?
I thought you retards wanted to stop posting literally whos, and here you fags are... maybe you should kill yourselves
>>2166283>>2166283>>2166283was there an acc change in lsb in the past year or 3 or something
>>2166294Because i'm proudly a hater of normalniggers and feminine spaces
>>2166301Lead retard rallying the troops to come flood. Just hide and ignore. Makes the captcha easier.
>>2166028Whinersolstice is still mad 3 years later.
>>2166302https://github.com/LandSandBoat/server/blob/9f2295de6c411c5188ae4a1302b55bc6a7e97a95/src/map/utils/battleutils.cpp#L2466looks good at a glance to me boss. if you are playing on pure LSB file a bug report
>>2166190>Kipling isn't in the pserver community at allAre you fucking retarded? Who do you think is on Phoenix staff?
>>2166313>communityCan you read?
>>2166310Besides changing some of the map/main files to the retail values, the only combat-related ones being on skillups. Is sneak supposed to force arbitrary 95% acc like weaponskills or did i just dream that up?
>>2166317sneak attack from behind is 100% hit rate no matter if you are main or sub THF, plus a forced crit. If you are main THF your DEX gets added to the base damage or some shithttps://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Sneak_Attack
>>2166315No he can't. he's a retard that drops names of literally who like we give a shit. we just want to play the fucking game
>>2166329People trying to schizo post from posts calling them out. Wild.
calling who out? what's that got to do with playing ffxi?
>>2166324Alright somethings fucked then, never whiffed so much in my life
>>2166337dunno gro but sounds like a bug if you are in fact using SA from behind
>>2166339yeah i was thinking maybe the positioning is fucked in the files somehow or there's lag so i basically started doing 50 different dances while being behind the monster to see if it affected anything but nope saem hit rate regardless.
>>2166344What level is your THF? Are you sure your party isn't messing it up last second?
The real enemy of the private server scene is actually you, the gay reader/poster
I'm straight
>>2166392You sucked my dick so you're super fucking gay.
>>2166329We tried to enjoy the game but then women and their dev simps felt the need to be involved.
>>2166455Maybe if you post about it some more and not play the game it'll get better.
>>2166460Woman hands
>>2166292Same and then they destroyed the linkshell I was in. Women are the natural predator of MMO guilds.
>>2166035schizo posting will continue until morale improves
>>2166391god, I hate that faggot so much
who?literally who?again, who?
Is there an owl ITT?
An owl just flew over my house!
>>2166480Your linkshell too? Unlucky. Everything was fine until the fire nation of women attacked.
>>2166480Don't play on Phoenix, there is a woman at the helm.
>>2166542Eventide only has men. Our safe haven.
>>2166292holy virgin incel. it all makes sense
you didn't know that already? what website do you think you're on? why are you here?
>>2166558i came here to laugh at you
>>2166559*smooches you*
>>2166562*chu*
>>2166569gro?
whenever I walk past someone, they don't tell me "hello!" or "good morning!" not a /cheer or even a /waveno, instead they /CHECK me. They take one big long hard look at my tender body and /CHECK me. They're not here to exchange pleasantries, or interact with another person. They're here to VIOLATE me. They dress me down with their eyes, and rape me in their minds. They see my pitiful level 10 gear and think of all the vile ways they could strip it off and seize every part of my nude form. The monsters are not out in the fields, no, they lurk in the cities and houses among us, stalking us, waiting for us
>>2166542So you're saying women killed every single ffxi private server at this point?
>>2166583I think your thread is a few blocks down...
>>2166600whoops, Have your image back
>>2166386im 18, I've been soloing still doing quests, been happening some i got sneak attack
can I get married to my bros in horizon?
>>2166625only if you're gay
>>2166631sweet time to marry the bros
>>2166625I wouldn't be surprised if they added a custom marriage system because aerec is a huge xivfag
>>2166640aerec-p*
>>2166640retail already has a marriage system, but you have to request a marriage on SE's website system first
>>2166646
>>2166653woah, I didn't know SE was based
>>2166660Not like this....
>>2166391prison gay isn't real gay sry
why can't you guys talk about the game like /v/ does. /v/ is my favorite son, you're all just a disappointment compared to /v/
>>2166701we try then people talk about literally whos
>>2166707/v/ doesn't talk about literally who. why can't you be more like /v/I miss /v/
>>2166708/vm/ was a mistake
anyone have the discord link for the new silk road for Phoenix server?
>>2166768>discorddie
>>2166625they are already married but that hasnt stopped hugin>>2166653speak of the devil>>2166701we try then literal whos stink it up with their filth.
>>2166547I did say i play horizon didn't I? wasn't it obvious
>>2166787we can be virgins together
>>2166701post the thread
>>216654612 player pop, all men.
>>2166812all I need is 5 guys to have a party
>>2166816five guys, and some burgers and fries. let's get greasy
>>2166828Hell yeah brother, it's gaming time
>>2166831we gotta charge up the JO crystal first
So how's your gardening going anons?
>>2166886gardenscapes is legit bro
This fucking asshole needs to shut the hell up
what if I just killed myself, maybe that would fix the economy
>>2166886I've never gardened in my life and about to go out next time i log i read the wiki page yesterday
I wonder what bloganon is doing right now
yeah, alright, real cool, nice game you got here
>>2166986skill issue
>>2166986this is just 1% of why you see ridiculing of retailtards
>>2166983Wish he was still blogging. Love reading adventures.
>FFXI pservers have seen massive growth the past six months>PSO pservers have seen massive growth the past six months>WoW pservers have been popping up and getting a bunch of playerswhat the heck is going on with everyone to cause this
>>2167146no good video games coming out, everyone's playing all the old shit now
>>2167146PSO too? qrd?
>>2167217I haven't played on any in a few years but I checked Ephinea's homepage and they had over 500 online. I remember it always being 70-250 max, I even checked archive.org using several different times of day and dates and it was indeed the case.
>>2167239sick
>>2167146new games are literal slop, nothing new under the sun
>>2167246don't let anyone know I told you this but, a lot of old games are slop too, it's just that we only remember the good shit and ignore all the bad shit
First time pulling dynamis tomorrow. Any tips?
>>2167255jus b urself
Is the dialogue and story mostly press-to-continue, or is there stuff that progresses without user input? I'm wanting to play for Japanese practice and tried looking up a video to get an idea, and the opening cutscene after creating a character seems to progress automatically and doesn't seem pausable, so I'm wondering if that's common throughout the game.
>>2167761most is press to continue
>>2167154More people have joined the phoenix discord server. Just got a new set of testers too! Great job folks!
>>2167146FFXI is definitely because of the FFXIV raids. PSO might be because of NGS being terrible.
>>2168079NGS is a fucking abominationI WILL NEVER FORGIVE SEGA!!!
>>2167761Very few cutscenes will just play without player input to progress. You'll end up in the world and can talk to most NPCs, usually multiple times, to see the text over and over. Good luck!
>>2168073Era will save us bros
>>2168073I don't care how many faggots join your gay club, I'm not using discord
>>2168073Testers are lower than scum and provide all of the leaks.
>>2168180What is there to leak about an era accurate open source server?
>>2168195Hey man don’t use logic we want to be angry!!!!
>>2168195>she doesn't know
>>2168175This post smells like NEET
>>2165696Toau content will be rolled over anyways. Relics were still rare in original toau, now it's expected to have 2-3 in a partyContent also wasn't balanced with gear swapping in mind yet, that wasn't until seekers
Any server that wants to put wings content in that isn't just sch is retardedWings didn't have content outside of a storyline which just play retail and dnc is a meme job as main and ruined the game as sub The shit doesn't work, most toau content still doesn't work properly on pservers. It would be more valuable to the community to code abyssea over wotg missions or actually finish toau
>>2168195Still lower than scum.
>>2168213enlighten our sister...
>>2168239Proof??
>>2168217>>2165696TOAU was released april 2006WOTG was released Nov 20071 year 7 months in between. Players were occupied with plenty of content.> Aerecs serverdec 2022dec 2023 1 yeardec 2024 2 yearsdec 2025 3 years passed3 Years in the same expansion (COP). Now in year 4 of the same expansion (COP). More and more relics, HQ gear, and BiS sets, and mountains of gil have been made. Even if Aerec's server gets TOAU it has already been ruined as a result of heavy content droughts and literal YEARS of merc-selling gear to lesser players.
>>2168269aerec's dogshit server has too many relicsthere should be like 3 by now not hundreds
>>2168271It’s almost as if letting a dude make up random shit and calling it era+ fucks up game balance. Shocking
>>2168269yeah, cop was september 2004 so it was 1 year and 7 months as well. by the time toau launches, horizon will have been in cop for 2x as long as retail was and that gives people way too long to gear. making a progression server was admirable but they didn't stick the landing.
>>2168269The game has been solved for 20 years. It doesn't matter how much gear players do or don't have.
>>2168288>The game has been solved for 20 yearsalright genius. why don't you tell me how shield block rate works with zero errorPROTIP: you can't
>>2168214
>>2168294>shield block rateThe grand content of ToAU.
>>2168297coward
>>2168227Fuck you, Dancer is great as main
>>2168298Woman hands.
>>2168271not just relics .. not just no-lifersENORMOUS amounts of sky god gear has been sold.ENORMOUS amounts of full Homam sets have been sold.Lesser players now have full set of sea torques and obis.More and more casual players are fully meritedEveryone has their cop ringNot including toau stuff that would be sold to death as a result.The entire server has been compromised due to reaching year 4 of cop. TOAU is DoA for Horizon. The content will quickly become unfun even after Aerec's server gets it.
>>2168300but I have a cock
>>2168294higher your shield skill the higher your block rateezpz gg no re
>>2168302>ToAU relases>minmaxxers finish it in 2 weekswhere's the content?
>>2168304>not exact
>>2168302Players did ToAU for years on Eden. They yearn for the same content from college 20 years ago. No chance you can convince anyone they don't want ToAU. They're leveling alts in order to do it 3x/week and will screech when there are account lockouts.
>>2168306you didn't say exact, neener neener nee
>>2168309I said "zero error", and you gave non-zero error
>>2168310Where's the error?
>>2168310how am I wronghuh? how is it wrong?
>>2168315It's not an exact rate retard
>>2168317You didn't say exact retard.
>>2168319you are an exact retard
>>2168321Woman hands.
It's shrimple: if you can't produce a SOLVED block rate formula with no error then the game has not been solved.
>>2168310I bet if I said something like [(Character A's Weapon Skill) - (Character B's Shield Skill)] * (some number between 0.235 and 0.27 depending on the enemy) + [number depending on shield size e.g. 0.55 for small shields, or 0.35 for big shields] you would have said "nuh uh, that's not exact enough"
>>2168324That's right. it's not exact enough. The error is the unknown variance which HAS NOT been solved.
>>2168328neener neener nee
now that we're in agreement the game hasn't been solved... I am going to go eat a taco
>>2168305They'll find content on another server. The grind is the content, they live for the grind.
>>2168330ToAU is solved retard. If it's not, then no server is era accurate.
>>2168332>no server is era accurate.well duh, we can all agree on that
>>2168332>no proofs
>>2168334I got your proof right hereI'm grabbing my balls right now
What's everyone's plans as we start the new year? Folks preparing for new servers? Alts on established ones?
>>2168355thinking of a good day to kms
>>2168356your sister would be very happy
>>2168364she wouldn't even notice
I just sold a slice of Hare Meat for 60 gil (I listed it as 51), feel like a frickin' badass right now
>>2168371proofs????
>>2168302Yeah because Horizon isn't an Era+ server it's a "fun server" like FFEra just with less content. What did they expect from cheese content but a bunch of EZmode players cheesing everything?
>>2167146everything modern already being shit and having only gotten worse every single year, combined with zoomoids and newfag millenials seeing videos/making videos after having seen millenial ffxigod boomers make videos and playing it for themselves
>>2167761I don't remember any being self-playing outside of that intro cutscene. Like 99% of them actually from what I remember. That's like the only cinematic part of the game besides like the ending cutscenes to each expansion, which I don't think have anyone talking or any words, iirc. Actually sat there for the first time ever and watched each video play fully when selecting a nation. Absolvte kino
>>2168227this is ass backwards, sch was broken was dnc was nice qol only, what meme ass shitpost is this
>>2168610pld/dnc could do some seriously memey stuff
>>2168302>merc'd gearslophow much fishbotted gil are the endgame faggots hoarding at this point
>>2168377It slid off the history, you're just gonna have to trust me on this one, it's real
>>2168555>ffxigod boomers make videosnobody older than 30 makes videos for ffxi, and if they do they're in unwatchable 240p quality with an even worse quality UI covering 60% of the screen
>>2168617RDM/DNC was really good too wasn't it
>>2168619It's okay, this war effort slop will gobble up all the excess resources for sure. Server fixed by ToAU launch guaranteed.
>>2168671ToAU already launched Friday. Hit 100% to see!
>>2168673dude, ToAU launched like 20 years ago, where have you been?
>>2168734FUCK what year is it?!?!
>>2168768Don't listen to that other anon, it's still 2008. The internet is great
Why the fuck did no one tell me there are San d'Orian Temple Knights that give you Signet in the Embassies of Bastok and Windurst??? I've been walking back to San d'Oria every single time my Signet runs out.
>>2168927lol
>>2168927lmao liar
>>2168930>>2168934Don't lol lmao me, I've literally wasted several hours just waking back to San d'Oria for this stupid piece of shitWhat other secrets are you keeping from me. Tell me your deep dark secrets
>>2168937there is no way someone would do this why would you spend hours just for one exp session for a lv1-10 job that you could do in 30min at your town, you are insane or lying. >secretsoutposts give signet+hp+warp you home for gil or CP, windurst has warp npcs that shoot you diagonally to another map skipping the adjacent maps, go look up moghouse exit quests, that's all I can think of /shrug
>>2169023>windurst warp NPCsI've never heard of this before, makes sense since windurst is stupid large
>>2169028Yeah it's actually not a stupid starter choice after you learn about them lmao, otherwise it's a piece of shit that the taru shitheads deserve
I decided to try FFXIV and it was one of the worst games I have ever played in my entire life, so I decided to play FFXI instead and was instantly hooked, but I haven't interacted once with another player in 90 hours of gameplay. How much different was this game when people actually had to socialize to play the game?
>>2169200Are you playing private or retail?Private you will be playing with other players within the first 12 hours typically, retail you likely won't until end game stuff
>>2169200you couldn't do shit alone beyond level 10 and would even need to party up just to travel to jeuno
>>2169254back in retail this was true when DCs gave 50 exp and getting 188/200 exp a kill in a party was preferable. All the private servers now have WoTG exp changes and you can easily solo to 30 if you really feel like it.
>>2169254People usually skip to 15-20 by grinding on ep-dc mobs thanks to wotg exp rates, which mainly affect ep mobs.Ghelsba parties exist for a reason.
>>2169297this except easily solo to 75
Give me one reason other than haste for picking rdm over sch in 75 cap era.Haste is not even that good on a tp burn with a brd using march the sch will never have mp issues the rdm eventually will if hes spamming haste on 4 targets constantly.SCH can also boost WS damage and auto attack damage.
As a new player what should I spend my Ochre and Red Mog Pells on? I was considering Trust: Moogle or Trust: Kupofried for my Ochre
>>2169475I'd lean towards Echad rings from the Red Pell. Kupofried is ok, but I'd rather have a good acting trust rather than a static Geomancer while leveling. Thankfully some good ones are available this month from the login points, such as Shantotto II. Normally, I'd argue her with your Ochre pell and if you can't get her via login points use your Ochre Pell on her. Both Moogle and Kupofried I think are handed out every so often, once or twice a year. Qultada, although flawed, is mightily useful even at 99+. Karaha-Baruha was my favorite 1-98 healer trust as he hastes and closes skillchains quite well. Mumor II, Ullegore, and Teodor are sort of lesser versions of Shantotto II, so good for 1-98 too. Mayakov, Uka, and Mumor I form an 'old dynamis' farming trio if you want to solo build relic weapons. I used Moogle and Sakura for skilling up, but this is in the context of skill up macros and scripts while I fuck off irl.Many trusts become useless at 99 ilvl, but this might change in the coming months with an their planned Trust upgrade systems. Who knows though. Hopefully this helps some.
>>2169200It’s the same experience, except that there’s more of us around to actively ignore you and steal your mobs/quest objectives out from under you.
>>2169814I find it annoying how frequently people just lie to newfags in this thread. I can tell it all stems from pathetic bitterness.
>>2169925I'm not sure which is worse between XIVtroons and retailredditors
>>2169472enfeebles and melee dd
>>2170038Retail for sure. We trigger their delicate personalities if any whiff of "private servers" shows up in their communities.
>>2169475>>2169645SE gives out echad rings like candy, Moogle and Kupofried are rare trusts but all the other trusts given by Mog Pells are easily obtainable through either daily login points or conquest points. August Fablinix and Ingrid are also available through some far off compaign mission if you just want them early, and some special event trusts like babaan and mumoor II are probably more worth than qultada since they're only available once a year, as opposed to Qultada's two entire real life Seasons worth of available time.I don't actually know if Moogle and Kupofried are rare, but I've been playing for 4 years and I haven't managed to play while they're available so I'd say for anon to choose those
Quick someone make a new thread!
>>2169925erm sorry but you don't understand how cutthroat ffxi is and how cruel people can be and how it consumes your life and how grindy it is and how pointless it is and how if you don't have rdm or blm leveld just uninstall it is-guy that nolifed a basic bitch point system hnmls for one summer 20 years ago
>>2170097OH SHIT I BETTER SHITPOST THE SERVER I DON'T STAN FOR
>>2170100Needing to level a mage is based. But it needing to be 90% black mage is cringe. Skillchains should be able to replace black mages when dealing with endgame mobslop, or give whm/rdm some tools too. Horizon could have been cool for at least one thing, on letting SMN join BLM in endgame slop, if that job wasn't overtuned trash. BLM is the nigger to endgame as NIN is to progression. Shit needs to have other viable options or otherwise get culled entirely. The sovl of FFXI is not having everyone being funneled into being carbon copies of each other in one same thing. It's no wonder those were the 2 most popular jobs for RMTfags.
The Old Old thread lasted 22 days in autosage mode btw. Just thought you should knowSo the old thread probably has 10 days left in it, and current thread's probably got another 25-26 days
>>2170128Incoming phoenix.online.game.com.org link
>>2170138Join Phoenix (Retail) RIGHT NOW
Speaking of skillchains, do you time your next weaponskill 3 seconds after someone activated their weaponskill, 3 seconds after the weaponskill animation finishes, 3 seconds after the skilchain procs, or 3 seconds after the skillchain animation finishes?
>>2170154I'd say up to 3s after their animation finishes, though the real, or perhaps only consistent, hook is probably after the damage enters the log. But usually the damage doesn't show until the animation is done afaik (meaning if you blink out the damage will instantly log). Some endgame animations get much much longer than initial ones. But, good question, who knows with how these japs programmed shit, let alone with how pserver fags lied about being era accurate.
>>2170138Rahne is going to make another thread and you all have to deal with it because she is a jannie and immune to moderation.
>>2170165Follow the rules bitch boi.
>>2167256We full cleared and I got 5 hundos. Thanks anon!
>>2170139kek only retards would get confused by that
>>2170088>I've been playing for 4 years and I haven't managed to play while they're availableThis is strange to me. Back in 2022, Dec., there was a free login campaign period where they offered these direct-to-inventory upon login. It was a multi-day thing that took maybe a week to get all the login rewards.Anyways, Trust: Babban is the most rare trust hands down so if we're talking attainability, grab this one even if you never summon him.
Phoenix new private server team is poppin off with new ppl joining the discord every day. I have great faith in these guys now. I am pretty curious about who all the pre-banned people are
>>2170165I think this person might be one of the pre-banned people from the new Phoenix server. The other two active threads have the Phoenix server listed but the OP in this thread indicates some form of salty sentiment about it. Last I heard from the rumor mill was that Rahne is on the pre-ban list due to the damage they have done to Aerec's server.
>>2170385Woooo new testers. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can be a tester. You’re not special.
>Phoenix news!!!>new discord usersHas literally anything new happened?
HXUI is fucking gross kill any faggot using it
>>2170492They just made a big post outlining their progress.https://phoenix-xi.com/blog/phoenix-flames-issue-02
>>2170525I ain't reading that AI slop.
>>2170536You're mistaking Phoenix for Zenith. Zenith is the server that publishes fully AI generated content.
>>2170548retard
Played on and off for years, first time ever crafting a relic weapon. On retail but still feel pretty accomplished. Time to get it up to 119.
>>2170536"This article isn't written in crayon, I can't read this. It must be made by AI"
>>2170447You seem oddly upset about something like getting new testers for phoenix server. Why can't you be happy for others?
>>2170154It's when the closers tp is spent. The animation is just a visual and has nothing to do with anything. Go off of either the tp display from an addon or considered the timer starting when you see thee very start of the closer swinging his weapon att the very start of his weapon skillIgnore the big giant explosion effect for fusion or whatever
>>2170722Non mb just trying to skill chain is the same, just go off the last person's to spent
>>2170599Then you get to R15 it
>>2170722i use /partyinfo showtp on and cast the first spell when the second person's TP goes off and the second spell immediately after, i can double MB a 6 and a 5 or a death and an aspir 3
i finally for fantasyfisher working again, any faggot who pays that shylock $150 is a cheese doodle.
>>2170733Explain it to me please because I can't get mine to recompile after I've edited the source
>>2170758be epstein and either rape or fuck niggers
>>2170722got it, thanksI keep trying to make my timings consistently 3-4 seconds and I'll get it 95% of the time, but every once in a while I'll wait for like 5 seconds and still manage to miss the skillchain window somehow despite everything saying it goes to 10 seconds.
>>2170331I don't play every day, I take a month long break every once in a while. I just always manage to take a break when they give out free shit I guess
>>2170758haha go to his discord and download the eliteapi for private servers. The one that's published now doesn't work on anything but retail and the only way to get the pserver to work is the api from his discord. Works fine, used it all night tonight. Hi Aerec, I'm fishing in East Sarutabaruta right now come ban me
>>2170807why there doe
>>2170815I'm not but theres this queef who has been just blatantly bot fishing here for the last 8 hours and it's obvious they don't do anything about them.
>>2170817private servers were a mistake
I'M NOT GOING TO YOUR FAGGOTTY ASS DISCORDFUCK OFF
/v/ argued about DD White Magecan we argue about DD White Mage?
>>2170880WHM should be able to cast convert when fighting undead so that it can be meree whir mageu with a full mnk bones party
>>2170598You sure are.
>>2170823if you want the eliteapi.dll that works on private servers he dont host it on his website, you gotta go to the discord and get trannified and groomed and then molested in that order and then you can finally be a lazy twat
>>2170880Its a novelty not worth using in anything serious.Play dancer. Its literally a melee whm/bard.
>>2170703Woman hands.
>>2170880Good low man option in earlier versions of the game Kinda just stopped getting any support later on
>>2170880yagrush/kclub MBoon spammu
>>2170042Sch can also do enfeebles. This argument doesn’t work.People invite rdm just because its 1 or 2 extra hastes. Sch gives you +7 to any stat or +3 to all stats and maximum enspell damage also boosted by weather while having 100% better mp efficiency and better regens and better dots.Just fucking admit already that sch > rdm in merits. Why the fuck are you inviting drk and blu anyway?
>>2171057>>2170042Who cares about enfeebles in merits. I feel like you guys don't play this games Enfeebles is for aoe sleep content, solo shenanigans and one strong nm monster A congo line of weak standard mobs you kill one at a time do not need to be paralyzed or slow lolGenuinely just kill it. All your healer should be doing is throwing out haste dia and maybe a regen or cure to top of /nin users or cures if it's a /Sam party Anything else is a waste of mp
>>2170100Melee fags still pretend like they have a single point to exist in this gameOut of a 18 man party the objectivity best number of melee to have is 2Melee make up 1/3rd of the jobs in cop lol33% of the jobs 5% of the alliance size and that's only if you bring the full alliance to like an hnm. The second you start low manning something like dyna hahahahaThe difference between a standard alliance and a "melee" burn is 2 more melee, and even then the brds are still the most important Rdm brd blm smn nin are the best jobsThf and bst are extremely useful jobs for outside of endgameDon't bother if you main any other jobs Retail it's just geo run brd blu cor, everything else is a meme job related to one specific piece of content or just solo slop who cares
>>2171092>Inb4 Blu is coolBlu is just blm with an Arabic flavor
>>2171083>aoe sleepSch is the best at it>Genuinely just kill it. All your healer should be doing is throwing out haste dia and maybe a regen or cure to top of /nin users or cures if it's a /Sam partySch can give targeted stat buffs and enspells boosted by weather, which i think is far better than 1 haste per target.If haste is truly that important then the ideal meritpo healer is smn even if their haste is slightly weaker
>>2171109Anyone who talks about any gameplay related thing and then specifically talks about the visuals to sum it up should be hanged on sight, for any game. Your opinion is worthless.
>>2170525>Whintersolstice spent months parrying chigoes over 355,000 times!Special shout-out to Whinersolstice for being a KHHV so Phoenix can have era-accurate parrying!
>>2171152Pre-banned list cope
Is this pre-banned list in the room with us now?
>>2171151Are you retardedI mean it fills the same role as blm did before just now with an Arabic flavor It's just the aoe job
>>2166653anyone from old retail get married in game to some person they only knew in game? what is it like?
>>2171149Smn is the ideal job when it's given it's aoe haste spell? That is literally the meta healer on horizon for merits We still talking about merits? Nobody merit parties in any era with sch existing
>>2171163Do you think sch came out in abyssea?
>>2171163>when it's given it's aoe haste spell?Please be a troll.Smn has hastega in retail era its just slightly weaker than rdms.
>>2171149RDM has to curebomb.SCH is the only era job with Regenga and Regenga 2 and maybe 3 idr if it had it during era but I do know it always learned regens earlier than whm.RDM only gets Regen 1
>>2171186Who hasn't merited by then or was even playingWotg 75 was the games deadest periodI don't feel like arguing, nobody cares about fucking sch meritingJust cast haste nigga it's fucking zombie content where melee just braindead spam tp moves
>>2171188Was thinking of the refresh but cool. Just cast haste
>>2171152it was parsed while afk with auto regen and capped PDT requiring zero maintenance
>>2171197You’re a larping faggot shut the fuck up.>>2171194So are you.
>>2171192Sch gets regenga 3, stoneskinga, phalanxga, my personal favorite aquaveilga. Never gets hastega.
>>2171057Sch is not better than rdm at anything but being a pretend BLM. Even on Catseye where SCH gets some retarded OOE shit like immanence and Embrava, and a bunch of custom gear that bumps the tick of sublimation by 4 maybe 5 points it's still inferior at healing. Whm mogs both. On retail sch gets regen 5 and that retarded su5 staff that makes big PP regens and then suddenly it's great.
>>2171152Woman hands typed this.
>>2171248Meds time!
Being a KHHV means you've surpassed the need for women and are based. How is that post a bad thing?
>>2171234Who said anything about sch getting hastega?>>2171240Whm was never better than sch or rdm on era.At best it was better at healing than rdm in endgame content but sch could curaga 4 entire alliances and crowd control.
>>2171240>Sch is not better than rdm at anything but being a pretend BLMBetter enfeebler when it comes to doing it aoe so that means better sleepga and better gravity or bind when it actually counts. On a single target the only thing rdm does better is paralyze and slow.Better DoTs, best DoTs in the game after all and more damage overtime than BLM while at the same time being the ultimate BLM support.Better cures, regens and mp management than rdm FAR FAR BETTER mp management. Anyone who thinks refresh and convert were better than access to actual regen and sublimation is a retard who never touched scholar or likely an era larper. All this is before we even consider them being able to AOE aspir.Better barspells than rdm thanks to actually being able to do the aoe version of all of them.Can phalanxgaCan enspellga (can also max damage on this with weather spells)Can aquaveilga (relevant for caster melee like nin)Can boost stats directly by +7The only thing rdm does better than SCH is giving refresh to drk/blue, paralyze/slow on single targets, and access to haste.Don’t even think about bringing up Frazzle thats irrelevant when SCH also has access to aoe Klimaform.
>>2171321SCH is not better you just have a school girl fetish admit it you pervert
>>2171386fuck yeah I do, give me the spats and skirt
>>2163009Retailchads
>>2171438So this is the power of Asura...
>>2171248Uh oh, Whinersolstice melty!
>bro my merit party is going to go crazy, we just picked up a sch>Oh they killed that monster before he can enfeeble>Oh they killed the next during his cast>Oh they killed the next during his castStop playing with poor people. Merit monsters die in 15 seconds.
>>2171487>buffs wear off after every battleDishonest nigger faggot leave now
>>2171386>>2171388panties edit where????
>>2171386>>2171388Mah niggas
>>2171162apparently you can still get married in current retail, you just gotta buy some rings, trade them with your friend, and then talk to an NPC for a marriage contract. No ceremony though
>>2171487>Merit monsters die in 15 seconds.Not in my pickup parties, lmao. SCH is good if you suck
>>2163104to be honest, i never heard of this sub like at all. they need to put a banner or sticky on /vg/ to direct people to this one.i had to find it by looking for a fairly popular game that didn't have any threads on /vg/
Can’t wait for Rahne to make another new thread
If I am killing level 28(29,30) Pugils mixing Clippers and Bats where needed, in Qufim Island to chain 5 and repeat, what would be the best party comp? So far BRD WHM BLM WAR BST THF (22 sync) felt good and was fairly pacey but it does require WHM to be autistic with cookies. That basic comp was great but I was wondering if with more advanced jobs how retarded you can go? What's the addon to see your exp-chain time?
>>2171515Enfeebles do tho nigger Learn to read
>>2171774Whm/brd ThfThf Sam/warBlm/brdBlmThf pulls and slam out damage with saBlms burn and mbThe 2 /brd are for regen and acc buff Melee use vision ring and rice dumplings Sam is just a good voke target pre shadows
>>2171804I didn't check the skill chain but you would want to make something for blizzard Also Sam could be swapped with nin. 3 shadows and 2 thfs ripping it with sa with their innate Evasion would prob go smooth
>>2171799>he needs shitfeeblesbaka desu famalamdingdong
>>2171700When someone else makes a thread she will try to make a thread in stay in control.
>>2171305SCH has this little problem called their stratagems take for fucking ever to refresh. Unless you have Tabula Rasa active you have a huge recast on stratagems and in an aoe heavy fight like king behemoth you might be using them all for stoneskinga or regen 3ga, that's where scholar shines. No, sch with accession cure 4 is not better than white mage with curaga 3.
>>2171321In era sch only got 3 mp/tick sublimation which meant no refresh only evokers, refresh gear, and ballads. If you had more than one of these yeah sch is very good at mp management even compared to a white mage in a 5 man party, especially if your DDs are subbing ninja and not being retarded. You might be able to get by with just sub and ballads. I've done both in era. Sch doesn't really shine until accession weathers and everyone wearing obis with chatoyant staves. Then you really want one, SCH has a lot of utility like Animus minuo and later on it gets immanence. Sch in the 75 era with immanence would be a game changing class, but actual 75 era sch was just a fancy BLM alternative that did much less damage with MB
>>21721144 stratagems with 1 minute charges is a long time? Nah I don’t agree. Thats 4 curaga 4’s.>not betterIt is when its:>more mp efficient than whm thanks to aoe regens>can be casted on outside parties.A white mage can’t cast curaga on an alliance.>>2172131>In era sch only got 3 mp/tick sublimation which meant no refresh only evokers, refresh gear, and balladsI really want to know what makes retards think sch needed refresh when sublimation was literally better and returned the same overall amount of mp as refresh as it was the same tick rate while at the same time being in effect constantly without an mp cost. This is not counting the mp efficiency they passively get from stance either and how insanely efficient it is to be able to aoe a regen.Storms weren’t just elemental damage boosters either at 75 cap, not sure why you keep ignoring that or all the utility that came from accession and manifestation at 75 cap.
>>2172267>4 stratagems with 1 minute charges is a long time? Nah I don’t agree. Thats 4 curaga 4’s.You're not going to be using these on Curaga 3s(Not 4s) and you're actually using more mana to do it than a white mage would be. If you're not maintaining regen 3 aoe or stoneskinga for your group, you just won't be using them. If you're taking incoming damage that could need a curaga 3 you could be using stoneskinga and preventing that damage for a lot less mana. >A white mage can’t cast curaga on an alliance.Neither can SCH, and also you can't cast stoneskinga or regen 3ga on another party, so what good is an aoe cure 4 going to do? You think a single scholar is going to be healing an entire alliance?>I really want to know what makes retards think sch needed refresh when sublimation was literally better and returned the same overall amount of mp as refresh as it was the same tick rate while at the same time being in effect constantly without an mp cost. It has an HP cost, and if your hp goes too low which it often does it wastes your sublimation, meanwhile a red mage can refresh you and you can sit to rest without having to stoneskin yourself. >not sure why you keep ignoring that or all the utility that came from accession and manifestation at 75 cap.You can do one or the other, if you think you're going to be maintaining stoneskin, regen 3, and still have stratagems left for aoe cure 4 i got news for you.
>>2172267I'm going to go ahead and sum up SCH 75 in a few sentencesYou don't get Shellra 5 with meritsYou don't get bliaut and relic leg barspells You don't get hasteYou are a supplemental black mage who does the utility for the nuke group OR a stoneskin bitch.with aoe regen 3, live it up.
Hey I know, the faggot who posted the 2 previous threads THAT ARE STILL UP BY THE WAY should post another new one before this one begins its month long slide into the archive bin with the 43 other ones he already made
>>2171700>>2171965we can just keep using this thread
I met a level 75 WHM the other day without a subjob and that got me thinking, are there any pservers or linkshells that intentionally don't use subjobs? What's even the subjobless meta? I'd assume something weird like BLU and PUP are top tier because they have so many options available to them from the get-go
>>2171057>Sch gives you +7 to any stat or +3 to all statsdoes that even matter at all at 75?
What's your guys' Wyvern/Automaton name? My Wyvern is Solaire and my Automaton is Asuka. I've been keeping track of all the different names people use, but PUPs are so rare that I can't find any automaton names. I've noticed that a lot of people don't seem to realize that you can change the names beyond the initial 30 they give you when first naming your pet, so most people just have it set to the first options given. (although changing your pet's name costs money, so maybe that's why). I legitimately believe there are so few PUPs that there's at least 1 name that has never been chosen
This thread is nice, anons are actually talking about the game (half of the time at least)
>>2172284>>2172286I like how you can always tell when a retard is just talking out the ass about era because they get simple things wrong like sch didn't even have regen3... just stop talking, thanks
>>2172284i love how you keep ignoring the fact that you can use aoe cure 4 on outside parties, which is precisely what makes it good>sublimation having an hp cost makes it badUnironic skill issue, especially for you who seemingly seems to be talking only about exp parties. This has never been an issue ever for anyone playing scholar or white mage because of stoneskin.>You can do one or the otherYou’re not very intelligent if you think that you can’t maintain either of those when the buff timer of them is longer than a stratagem charge, even at the level you get accession. Moreover you don’t use accession on stoneskin, not in an exp party and certainly not in endgame alliances, unless your black mages are subbing /sch which they will be too pussy to do.>>2172286None of those are an actual important advantage unless you’re talking about some specific hnm where you’re getting passed around in parties like the bitch whore that you are just for that.
Do people in this thread seriously believe that whm didn’t sub sch in era because of refresh? Sublimation was one of the strongest buffs to whm and SCH got a 3 tic version of it and merits to the store capacity.>>2172284Also to you specifically, before you go talking out of your vagina, research the eras you did not play.Pic related.
>>2172284Theres exactly only one thing you will be dedicating a stratagem charge for out of your 4 to maintained and thats regen and only in something like a bcnm or endgame alliance event as spamming that on an exp party barely taking damage to begin with is overkill.Aquaveil lasts 10 minutes so this is like saying that using a charge on protect and shell is a problem if this has to be maintained.Every other buff you’d use last either 3 or 5 minutes and you get a stratagem every 1 minute at 75.What does this mean? Well if you passed 3rd grade math you’d be able to tell that you have many more charges available to you for use in other things like your potency buffers or your mp saving stratagems, which means that yes those aoe cure 4s you’re calling shit are much better than curaga 3’s especially since you can stack stratagems.
>>2172286Bliaut is only +5 resistance. Did you mean the af2 pants? Thats more noticeable but I don’t really see a world where 25 more element resistance makes a huge difference.Scholar gets skill levels between A+ and A thanks to their AF armor so if you really want to compare resistances then Scholar is adding around 92 while the white mage can add around 111 thanks to their armor, 86 otherwise.Shellra 5 merits are less than 5% increase to the effect so maybe you’re glazing this a bit much considering SCH also gets aoe Shell V?I’m not saying that extra resistance on barspells is bad but it is kinda really niche, you don’t really need it in most scenarios.
>Horizon just released a "Shadow Update">you can turn in full stacks of crafting items for 1 Imperial Standing (ToAU currency)>ToAU isn't even out yetWhyFor what purposeWhose stupid dumbass idea was thisWait, don't tell me, I think I know exactly who did this
>>2172663It's just for people to onions and go toau soon I better keep playingDon't actually start farming currency now with such a bad return rate
>>2172568I'm talking about the only private server currently active which has scholar, which is CEXI, and in CEXI it has regen 3 at 59, i know they didn't add it until 2012. Maybe don't be a little faggot and assume I didn't know that. What other point would there be to discuss 75 era scholar? >Unironic skill issue, especially for you who seemingly seems to be talking only about exp parties.Are we talking about exp parties? I'm talking about endgame. For exp parties, play whatever, SCH is a good merit healer. >Moreover you don’t use accession on stoneskin, not in an exp party and certainly not in endgame alliancesThat's bullshit, even the nips used SCHs for aoe stoneskin for fafnog, KB, Khimaira, cerberus, etc. >Do people in this thread seriously believe that whm didn’t sub sch in era because of refresh?Yes, because sublimation as /sch only gave 2 mp/tick and you didn't always have 10 minutes for your mana battery to fill up before a fight. Aside from coming with a pre-filled mana battery, why would you not sub black mage instead and use a red mage for refresh? You're just gimping yourself to prove a point. 5 minute recast Sub stratagems are aids. >you have many more charges available to you for use in other things like your potency buffers or your mp saving stratagemsyou're not using multiple strats on a single healing spell. I hope, anyway. >I don’t really see a world where 25 more element resistance makes a huge difference.Blessed Bliaut gives 5 mdb to elemental barspellsplus the 10 MBD you'd get from meriting barspells. Plus the 3% more magic damage resistance(and 5 MDB iirc) you get from merited shellra V vs Shellra IVSch gets AoE shell V on retail, not at 75
>>2172685Nobody ever mentioned CEXI in this entire discussion, its not even worth discussing since that server has trusts.Sublimation on SCH main is not bad in endgame unless you have a skill issue or your alliance has a skill issue.>why would you not sub black mage instead and use a red mage for refresh?Probably because scholar also has conserve mp and the Light arts and Dark arts buffs not only reducing mp costs but also improving spellcast times and cds. Lets not forget Penury and actually being able to use Aspir, even if you have a hateboner for sublimation letting whm be self sufficient, its still a better sub job than Blm.>you're not using multiple strats on a single healing spell. I hope, anyway.Assuming you are a main healer I don’t know why you wouldn’t. What else are you spending them on? You’re using at best one for an MB if stance swapping. Staying at 4 stratagems and only using them when you need them is a waste, might as well use Penury during downtime.
>>2172685>Blessed Bliaut gives 5 mdb to elemental barspells plus the 10 MBD you'd get from meriting barspells.That is still only about 29 more magic resistance than what you’re getting from a SCH with max enhancing magic.Like I said I don’t think its a bad thing but I wouldn’t say its the difference between whm and sch in a lowman situation since the amount of magic damage white mage is reducing compared to the scholar is only barely noticeable. In an alliance situation you’d be using both anyway since scholar has its own brand of mitigation to stack with white mages and that is assuming you even need to minmax the resistance that badly to begin with.Its not really worth discussing whm vs sch in an endgame setting anyway because you usually have at least 1 of every job in that sort of situation. White mage in any type of lowman content sucks compared to the alternatives imo and you definitely need sublimation in situations like that. You’re also wrong about /blm being a better sub since /sch gives the same benefits and more.But sure you got me on Shellra 5, i completely forgot about that.
>>2172685Sch is not a 75 era job>It came out before the level increaseYeah barely and their was literally no new content to use it on lol
>>217273775 era sch was just an alternative job to bring to content on farm alreadyPretending it was needed in any way is really silly
>>2172663>>2172673I did some injecting, here's the item listshttps://pastebin.com/wjcr94TY
>>2172767Nobody is pretending it was needed, only that it was better than existing alternatives except black mage (post modus veritas nerf)
>>2172737>sch is not a 75 job>errr i mean it is but barely lol I am such a fucking moronIt was a 75 job for 3 years, thats about the same amount of time between cop and toau
>>2172808No new content to use it on. Who cares, wow we have an alternative mage job to fame something we already can do with ease
>>2172829And who exactly is arguing this? Or do you have reading comprehension issues? Do you just change the subject whenever your thinly veiled mask starts falling off?
>>2172838You're thinking to hard, I just don't care to talk about sch this long. Shut the fuck up, merit is meme "content" that's just about staying awake Le epic sch buffs are a nothing burger
>>2172841Like I'm assuming we are talking about horizon because why else are we even discussing 75 sch which will be years and years from now, but I haven't seen a single person talk about what sch could bring to henm or it's version of hnm hq fights which is the hardest content on that server.That would be the interesting discussion of what the job could do Xp and merits is actual zombie content
>>2172663Did they ever get AV working?
>>2172847The buffs, crowd control and extremely efficient heals. Like I don’t see enough people talking about this but sch is very powerful in dynamis when used properly for example. In lowman content as well, i don’t see how red mage is better just because of haste, but even so they are also a blm alternative while also being very versatile. I don’t see how they can’t be useful unless aerec nerfs them like they did red mage like adding more spells to addendum, nerfing the af bonuses or just the grimoires in general, removing spells from the accession and manifestation list, etc.
>>2172922Sorry bro, Horizon isn't an era server so AV isn't real
>gives sch adloquim*muah* see you guys in horizon
>>2172945*kills u*
>>2172924Haste is a necessary buff for any melee or tank and still extremely sought after for magesHalf of the endgame is chasing down haste pieces All that matter in either melee or mage dynamics comps is sleepga It's an okay job but clearly people get by perfectly fine without it existingRdm not existing removes a really useful sometimes objective best tank for tons of fights, the objectivity best stunner and sleeper,, the only decent enfeebler on level 86+ monsters, a good healer, and a top 3 lowman job in the gameYou keep comparing just healing and support of rdm vs sch when those are just very minor parts of rdm
>>2173049Lol rdm only heals in content where healing isn't really that important and you just need someone to top you off sometimesGood job sch for epic owning the rdmtards on that
>>2172930It'd be cool if they actually finished CoP despite being stuck in it for 3 years. The most iconic boss being unavailable and pushing out random ToAU breadcrumbs instead is so weird.
>>2173049Red mage is not casting haste on 5 targets. I get that its important but so is action economy.You are not using red mage to stun AND heal in lowman but this is something several jobs can do, including sch, red mage just does it beat because of chainspell and thats just a specific strat.I was comparing their healing from an lowman standpoint because its pointless to compare from an alliance standpoint where both are taken and both have different roles to take.
>>2173059Horizon? Finished... it's over.
>>2173103Rdm absolutely can keep up haste on multiple targets and stunLol this is no longer"guys actually sch is really good because" and just "secretly rdm the most overpowered job in the game is le bad"It's notSch is good, it's a mage job in ffxi. It's just completely and utterly not needed, and rdm is just better overall
Why am I even bothering replying to the schtard. Arguing haste is whatever when it literally the most important buff and stat in the game should have told me everything I needed to know.
>>2173146>not neededIncorrect in an endgame context.>better than rdmIn a lowman context yes.You haven’t actually argued either of those points.
>>2173146Its not about sch being better than rdm as a stunner or whatever you’re arguing. Context matters and in endgame context they aren’t comparable as both are needed for different things. That being said rdm is a stun bot or an enfeeble nuke, sch is more versatile while still having its own niche in the storms.The only point of comparison is exp or bcnms or whatever other 6 man content.
>>2173303Whatever sch can do other jobs can do just fine Only rdm for many years could actually land enfeebles, best healer with convert, and a better tank than pld in a lot of content to the point horizon nerfed it's eminty Tired of this discussion, rdm > sch and you're actually retarded if you think otherwise > just a stunnerAs if stunning isn't like one of the only things that actually matters in terms of clearing a fight
how about I just sub /PUP and have my automaton slowly cure bomb everything so I don't even have to pay attention to healing.It's like I'm really playing XIV Scholar now.
>>2173457You can Sneak Attack as a solo THF if you go /PUP, or any pet subjob reallyI don't know why it'd be necessary to do that, but you can.Can't Trick Attack a pet though. SE should really allow you to Trick Attack pets. You can Trick Attack trusts, so it should be absolutely possible to do with pets, but SE just doesn't allow it.
Do some of you idiots actually play on controller?
>>2172808>3 years, thats about the same amount of time between cop and toaumaybe on horizon LMAOCoP and ToAU were less than 2 years apart
>>2172663At current turn in rates it should be around 100% full when Phoenix finishes ToaU on lsb, what a coincidence!
>>2173574yeah it's comfy
>finally bored of the gamei'm free...
>>2173618Tell me your secrets. How'd you do it??
>>2173618See you next server.
>>2173621Friends quit, objectives mostly smashed, I'm not sticking around to grind fafhogg/dyna for someones third alt. I get it though, this game is like meth and I was on it for years.>>2173624Sincerely doubt it. They would need to have working wotg to even remotely interest me at this point and no one has ever done it.
>>2173380While its glazing the sch one point that he didn’t mention is that SCH is still the fastest stunner and also the one with the lowest cooldown without giving up their spell list thanks to addendum.I get that people probably didn’t use this in 75 era probably because most were afraid to try new things but sch could aoe stun and also use alacrity with it for a faster casting stun and lower cooldown than usual.Rdm is the absolute best at keeping the mob stunned for 30s thanks to chainspell, outside of that tho, i can admit sch still outdid it on that role.To be honest most of this conversation just shows how little people actually tried sch during the 75 era period. The only thing people used it for was modus veritas and storms which were probably the most obvious applications.I loved aoe gravity in dynamis though, and they are also technically the strongest sleepga 2, stronger than blm even.Idk man, maybe he does have a point, it was so versatile that they decided not to give it haste so people wouldn’t dogpile it.
>>2173638>no one has ever done it.yet
>>2172808>>2173584CoP release Sep 2004Toua release april 2006 1 year 7 months.>>2173059You are now in year 4 of CoP on horizon. The server is scuffed and even toau cant save it. Content is DoA due to 3 years of merc sales and boredom grinding dynamis.
>>2173624Phoenix is growing in popularity and players. Looks promising plus the staff, coders, and testers all appear competent.
>>2173822no one will ever be able to successfully emulate wotgs campaign system. Anyone who says they can is lying to you
>>2173958proofs?
>>2174023right here
>>2174060that is the pudding that will exist in the future
>>2174062in our lifetimes?
>>2174125yea
>>2173792It's just that without apajamas II it's lacking. 90s era FFXI scholar was absolute peak, imo. FFXI should have capped at 90 in abyssea.
>>2173618I get bored yearly after a 1mo stibt every year about this time
>>2172725MDB vs magic resistance is a different equation, and for most fights you're going to want a white mage even if you also have a scholar. Scholar doesn't replace a white mage except in merits and for certain(easy) fights. You want that +20 MDB white mage brings to the table. You're going to have DDs kitted out in 100+ FR for things like Cerberus and Bahamut, but it's never enough. You want to turn all your party members into rune fencers, you need fire carol and barfira, that 20 MBD, and optionally -DT gear for when the resists fail so you don't eat a 3k damage giga flare.
>>2172385why would xe pist another, this one already excludes the servers better than horiz*n, xer has no incentive into this one diededs
>>2173792SCH/RDM was my favorite job for soloing Fe'e. Me and that faggot had some times, i think i lost twice and beat him over 200, no KC
>>2174380That is not “most fights”, that is fights where you will be bringing both.
People already being whm to those fights on horizon which increased hnm difficulty. Sch is clearly not needed, but please keep swearing sch is required because it just brings so many blah blah blah blah
Guys you don't understand it can cast regen. Get this, on multiple peopleWho fucking cares lol. Shellra 5, raise 3 and barspells are the reason you bring whms to endgame. Healing is just the thing you do on the side >It can also cast black magicso just bring a blm.>Its le better in lowmanIt's not, low man already is just 2-3 blms and they get along just fineSch is a mage job in 11 so it's always going to be good, but it's not necessary and never was. Any job it can do, other jobs do better. People only play it more on retail than other mages jobs because whm is boring, and you usually already have a multibox on it
>>2174604>>2174614>dishonest nigger arguments>not replyingI don’t care rahne. Go find someone desperate enough to fuck your unwashed pussy
>>2174617Reply to what? Some guy miss understanding what jobs actually do in this game and honesty a lot about this game like saying not having haste in merits didn't matter is bizzare
SCH is like GED white mage. SE didn't even fix Scholar until Abyssea. SCH will not replace a WHM in any endgame content.
>>2174626>SCH will not replace a WHM in any endgame content.Nobody said this. This is why I am making fun of your intelligence. This entire reply chain didn’t even start as a comparison to WHM, much less a comparison to it in endgame content and it has been said multiple times that endgame is not a good point of comparison because its all alliance content.>>2174619Theres no misunderstanding just you being stupid or gaslighting. I don’t know if you are pretending to be retarded but its been made clear several times that you use both at endgame for different purposes, SCH is just way more versatile in what it can do. Nobody ever implied you’d use SCHs barspells over WHM in HNMs only that in lowman content you’d probably prefer having a more varied healer.I have to question why you’re both bringing up white mage when the last point of this conversation was stunning. Unless you’re both the same person.
>>2174657Blah blah blahNo body cares about sch casting regena or it being a budget blm when lowman don't even have healersIt's all blm rdm nin and maybe a drg/rdm
>>2174657in lowman content you'll prefer having the healer with as many benefits to it as possible. 5 mp/tick sublimation isn't beating out 3 raise spells, superior barspells, -35% CCT before you even consider light arts, +25% cure potency from gear, +20 magic defense bonus from merits and bliaut, 3% more MDT from shellra V vs 4, benediction, regen 3 which scholar didn't get until seekers of adoulin
>horizon>getting sch>can’t even get TOAUlol
>>2174770Don't worry bro, horizon will get TOAU after Phoenix finishes it and then it will be another buggy mess because Horizon is Catseye 2
>>2174795What they should copy from Phoenix is the progress tracker. That might do more harm than good in their case though.
>>2174798Don't think they can let people know how far away they actually are. They'd probably quit in droves.
>>2174713You are basically ignoring every single point made and pretending sch wont have access to similar gear.When are you gonna post actual arguments? Or are you just trying to keep the thread from devolving into dramaposting again?
>>2174657Sch overlaps in its role with other casters, a sch will take the spot of someone else especially if it's a lowman I have no idea how you think you can argue any other way. The job is not remotely impressive, it doesn't do anything special outside of minor buffs which lol just get a brd geo or cor and is just a separate flavor of rdm except no melee
What's the best way to make a local FFXI server if I want to mess around with relics?
>>2174798Ma'am, Phoenix's progress tracker is Horizon's...
Current Retail sch is a meta job and the third most sought after job after geo and cor75 era sch is notIt feels like people are arguing about both at the same time when it's two completely different jobs
>>2175047>Sch overlaps in its role with other castersDepends on the context but lets say lowman, a SCH isn’t overlapping with anything in endgame.>I have no idea how you think you can argue any other wayTo be frank you keep ignoring every single point made.>it doesn't do anything special outside of minor buffs which lol just get a brd geo or cor It doesn’t do a single buff any of those do. More than anything it second best at everything caster related while also transforming spells AOE opening up possibilities that are not available to other casters. It has a niche in quickest stunning (chainspell aside), most mp efficient healing, most self-sustaining mage beside rdm, crowd control and strongest dots. To pretend that it wasn’t used to buff blms or that it wasn’t the best lowman healer is just being retarded, especially with a brd or cor.>>2175087No you just can’t read like everyone rose here and continuously shift the subject between alliance and lowman as if both were the same thing. Nobody except the catseye turd mentioned immanence or adloquim.
>>2175172Nah not really
>>2174614>Regen. Get this, on multiple peopleJust sub /BRD and sing Paeon lmao
>>2175035Sch isn't even close in terms of gear.
>>2175172What is lowman? Merits and tier 1 ZNM? SCH isn't going to be able to solo heal fafnog let alone anything stronger than that. SCH will struggle against anything with sustained AoE.
>>2175400AA AA OH OH AA AA OH AA OH AA OH OH OU
>>2174795I just realized this LOL. Aerec's server is getting more and more exposed everyday. Not a good look for a long term investment.
>>2174617Who is this rahne person and why has everyone brought up how much of a horrible person they are?
>>2175676Nice try Rahne.
>>2175172Catseye wouldn't be a bad server if it was WEW mode only and didn't have handouts. 75 SCH with immanence and Embrava, gear augments, and custom content. SCH there gets regen 3 at 59, and is actually useful as a support.
Ok we're on page 7, OP-chan should make a new one now.
>>2175682"Catseye wouldn't be a bad server if not for 80% of what makes it Catseye"
>>2175725Yeah, the job changes and custom content are great. I'd have the server in WeW only mode with no trusts and no Rhapsodies.
>>2175694There are two other active xi threads. Why was this one even made?
>>2175747One of them is archived and the other one is page 10
>>2175694no, wait for page 10. this board is fucking dead. this isn't /vg/ where it takes 5-10 hours to die
>>2175676Rahne is a jannie on 4chan, and also many people hate her because she's a woman on the internet who doesn't take male bullshit.
>>2175839.t Rahne
The other thread's about to bump off, and this will be the only one left.
>>2175862The other thread with incorrect links?
Why do people still pay 2 mil for ebow?I'm gonna let you suckers in on a little secret. It sucks. It's always sucked. Musketeer gun +2 with silver bullets or othinus bow with darksteel bolts mog the titties out of this piece of shit.
>>2175976the rule of two must be upheld, lest people think ffxi is a dying mmo
>>2175977what's 2 mil? 2 nights of letting the bot on while you sleep? gil is worthless on horizon
>>2176011Horizon devs don't ban you right away, they wait until you're 80+ fishing and have invested hundreds/thousands of hours into the game.
>>2175676Rahne is a hairy scary monster that lives under my bed and says things like "Fee Fie Fo Fum, I smell the blood of an englishman. Be he alive, or be he dead, I'll have his bones to grind my bread!" and then she pops out and scratches my legs whenever I get too close. She ate my dog. And I'm pretty sure she sneaks out at night to take bites of my pudding in the fridge but I haven't caught her yet so I don't know for sure.
