Assymetrical thread>implying anyone reads the OP
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>>2171562 i think finally even mazed whales are starting to leave eve, both because their literally dying and they feel clapped out and want any alternative. The original appeal that drew them in is eroding away - multiboxing is essential to many activities simply because they are too unrewarding to do solo. Getting new players is pointless the way its designed now - content with one account is tedious and risky, and not very rewarding. How can a noob justify paying to sub alts to participate in gated content when the stuff they do solo cant hold their attention?Im just tired of wanting polish on old content, while they make a clone of a shooter that has already existed for 25 years and "patch" eve to add rainblow ore multiboxing events and more abandonware content.
>>2172383I agree. Eve has certain momentum with how attached and addicted people are to it but that will eventually whimper out. There has been at least a half a decade of extremely underwhelming development while their attention is somewhere else excluding MTX stuff.
>>2172007So I missed the patch notes but heard something about the Succubus. What did they do to it?Was it another +0.01 Inertia +50hull and call it a day?
>>2174357cap stability for two small turrets.
>>2172383Eve player numbers have been trending upwards for over a year retard.
F1 slav bros? 49-U6U soon 17:00 ET1 trillion isk fight is coming
>Eve account numbers have been trending upwards for over a year retard.
>>2175566I mean he's right. We were down to 9k online when Scarcity ended. Uprising and a few other solid expansions unironically saved the game. We hit 40k online end of last year, which makes Eve more alive than most AAA normieslop that's come out in the last few years.
>>2175667Despite so many accounts online, activity is down across the board. Killmails in j-space over the last year are down 30%. In lowsec, they're down 18%. Less mining is being done in high, low, and wormholes. Blue loot sales are down almost a quarter, and red loot from the abyss is down as well.The only thing that hasn't declined is nullsec, which comes at the expense of every other area of the game. For everyone else, EVE is in an awful place.
>>2175741>activity is down across the boardCuz nullfags wont fight each other and wormholes are all owned by 1 alliance now. Lowsec chads carrying the game casually dropping dreads on each other every night.
>>2175741Cuz LP prices have doubled in the last month so everyone's ironically using multiboxxed accounts to pull burners. Market is completely drying out of faction modules all the time and no-one can fill demand quickly enough.
>>2175741>Killmails in j-space over the last year are down 30%. In lowsec, they're down 18%. Less mining is being done in high, low, and wormholes. Blue loot sales are down almost a quarterBecause CCP is trying to force everyone to Dread krab and push Marauders out of the meta. Dread krabbing is fucking great, you make buttloads of isk, but it comes at the cost of putting at absolute minimum 12b on the field, with an absolute minimum of 40b up-front investment for a fit Fortizar, a Carrier roller, and 2 Dreads. Marauders by comparison just require an Astra and a couple of Marauders and battleship rollers.Doing c5 sites in Marauders now fucking sucks, a c5 marauder site is like 250m compared to 750m with dreads. It's actually just outright worse than blasting c4 sites with a cheap fit Vargur.Low class is just dogshit all around. The combat sites are shit, the mining is shit, everything about it is shit. The only reason to live in low class is to have a LS/NS static.That's why Lazerhawks et al are starting to move to Null. Individual isk generation in wormholes through dread farms is good if you can afford the buy-in, but on a corp level there's nothing. You don't get moon goo or Skyhooks or taxes to pay your SRP bills. There's no mining to profit from with buyback programs, there's just nothing to do in wormholes except krab for blue loot which has such a high barrier for entry that anybody not already doing it isn't able to start because Marauder krabbing has been nerfed to shit.
>>2175667>>2175566Eve is roughly back to the pre-Ukraine war induced player count collapse numbers.>We hit 40k onlineFree omega. There's been -25% after that based on quick eve-offline fiddling.
>>2176294Free Omega weeks with expansions have been a thing forever.
>c5 marauder site is like 250m compared to 750m with dreadsWhat's the issue tho? Who the fuck use marauders in c5 when you can do dreads casually. Lazerhawks created WH hell on their own. Of course there is no corp level content when they evict everyone with C6 statics. And this evicting isn't even pvp. >see 30 ppl enemy fleet >they're trying to evict us! finally real WH pvp!>undock with bros with similar fleet>they sees you and just...logoff>at night 400000 vultures will appear in your hole
>>2176352>Who the fuck use marauders in c5 when you can do dreads casuallyPeople who can't afford to do dreads retard. That's the point.
>>2176356>People who can't afford to do dreads retardWho are those poor poor people and what are they doing in c5? You can't afford dread but you can afford multiple accounts with marauders (and obviously ready to lose them no way you're farming c5 in 1 marauder)? Not even including typical wh alts everyone have. Do you even play game retardbro?I have a solution. How about you unsub all those alts, sell all your marauders and buy one dread? Or you go to c4 in cheap marauder (1 account) to make 600+ by farming barracks (520kk for 1000dps). Can't afford dreads my ass. In Null people have dreads and their main content is Ishtar in Havens.
>>2176394Maybe if you actually read my post instead of being a reactionary retard you'd be less confused.
>>2175667>>2175741>>2175907or maybe the same company that manipulates the price of plex has no scruples about manipulating other numbers, like player population? Honestly 30% less pop is not as bad as I thought it would be, to me it feels like 90% of space is just one guy 4boxing while frantically looking for anything to do that has actual other people involved.
>>2176405No you fucking backpedaling rude retard.If you can't afford dread you have no place in c5.Everyone who farmed c5 in marauders before were always able to afford dreads. This entire muh marauders in c5 is nonsense. You don't need 2 dreads and carrier roller to farm c5. I can logoff farm in someone's c5 just with 1 dread, hualer and pos and no one will notice my existence for months.
>Amarr
>>2175667>We were down to 9k online when Scarcity ended.who would have thought that being able to afford and build things would bring people to the game
>>2176936Scarcity's problem was always the toolset to mine and build was shit, not the idea behind it.CCP expected miners to move to lowsec/j-space to chase value with no sort of problems, ignoring the fact that mining in null is completely different from mining in these other two areas. Lowsec is probably the most unsafe area in the game, being in proximity to high sec which causes the playercount to be higher than null or wormholes outside of big wars and have the same problem as null that a cyno alt can sit in a system and completely render it useless to every miner in there. Wormholes have mass constraints which by default limit the ability to scale up and a limit to the amount of available sites within a system which encourages sparse populations. Wormholes can't even meaningfully deploy Rorquals outside of C5 space, not that they ever would have a reason to anyway since the entire band of space has too limited of courses to mine. Yet somehow these two places were supposed to generate the entire supply of Isogen and Nocxium for the entire game.All CCP had to do was put some effort into designing mining ships and equipment around these classes of space. More mobile mining ships, ships more capable of protecting themselves or disengaging before death, low mass mining ships and industrial command ships, anything that facilitated mining with smaller groups that couldn't rely on a massive QRF response when in danger would've caused supply to go up, but CCP sat on their asses for five years before just deciding to kick everything back to nullsec.
This motherfucker killed my afk mining fleet. But for some reason im not mad
>>2176435I dont know what you're smoking mate, pop's been up and people are fukken everywhere. You sound like a nullbear that's mad cuz null is empty after like 8 years of them never fighting each other, no offense.
>>2176936>who would have thought that being able to afford and build things would bring people to the gameThis but unironically. The last expansion has helped a lot too. Pre-Catalyst Tech 1 Cruisers were like 50-60mil fitted. They're back down to about 25mil now, shit's great. Doesnt sound like much but if you want to welp a few dozen of them every night for fun that shit adds up. Its no wonder why no-one was undocking anything other than frigs and destroyers.
>>2177029Lowsec and hisec need to completely reworked (or just plain removed). Intel tools need to be completely reworked. None of Eve's underlying issues will ever get fixed due to lack of ambition and focus on other dumb projects by CCP.
>>2177616reworked how
>Intel tools need to be completely reworkedGo back to WH, cuck.
>>2178144nuking api in its entirety would be a start
>>2178144Currently the game gives you way too much perfect, instant and uninteractable intel. This makes everything gay and boring.
>i want free kills
Local on its own is fine.Cloaked bot accounts that automatically ping discord with anyone that enters local along with their zkill profiles is bullshit and shouldn't be allowed.
>>2178623Local chat should be an upgrade for sovnull. If you want local, you should have to spend system resources on maintaining the transponder for it, which takes away from making the system suitable for farming sites.In fact, there should be an inverse relation between infrastructure upgrades to make a system more safe and the quality and amount of sites available for farming in a system. If you want to make money, fly out to more distant and dangerous places. No more bullshit like crabbing within easy range of ansblex gates or cyno bridges, if you want safety, get more allies in your system and split your loot.In fact, solo dread farming shouldn't even be a thing, caps should always require direct support from smaller ships to function.
>>2178436Currently it's impossible to die unless you make dumb mistakes.
>>2178887and yet the world isn’t running out of dumb people.. Been seeing many videos on yt of high-sec carebears crying because they got suicide ganked whilst flying around in ~1b ISK.>new & returning players BEWAREMeanwhile the rest of us can fly a Loki unimpeded through 20 gates of Russian/Chinese Nullnerd bubbles. Crazy how some players genuinely think that training skills is somehow an equivalent of learning how to pilot manually, or properly.
>>2178887zkill tells me otherwise
Have Brutor fatigue, send em back to heimatar
>succubus was this just another kiting buff
>>2178934>high-sec carebears crying because they got suicide ganked whilst flying around in ~1b ISK.It must suck for highsec that battleship prices went up compared to years ago.
>>2180112They went up and now they're down again. Days of 400mil for a fitted BS are over, they're down to like 200mil again now.
>i want free killswhat's wrong with that
Couldn't do it, its just too boring.
Is Stormbringer ratting any good? I'm kind of interested to try.
>>2181445Don't, you'll get concorded.
How many pilots would you need to start messing with the Dracarys. 24/7 botfarms out in soul?
who is this lazerhawks guy you are talking about?
amarr
Succubus with 3 multispectral ecms, small particle dispersion Aaugmentor II. an armor tank, pulses and a neut is a nasty little monster.
>/dog/ fitting advice
>fits that differ from exactly what I would do
I still don't understand dog lore of this general. Is it like cat dicks posting from /kspg/?
>>2187278Back in the 2012 or so days, someone used to spam the "this faggot dog" reaction to literally every post as well as the Will Smith.jpg one. Eventually it just turned into dogposting, and /eog/ being 1 letter away from /dog/ didnt help either. I still have a bunch of threads from 2012~2014 or so archived away on a hard drive somewhere. The shitposting is about the same except back then there was more shilling of shitty 5-man wormhole corps, no real discussion on the game and a lot of >amarr >gallente, so things havent really changed
>>2187327we've changed anon...we've all gotten older and our knees + backs are blown the fuck up.
>gallente
Gallente ladies getting Brutorized
>>2188048Quintessentiall Caldari post.
rail moa
What should I fit in the utility slot of a beam executioner?
kinetic smartbomb
salvager
Get titanmogged evebros
>>2189831I wish an Avatar mogged me desu
>>2188048>Account created in Jita
>>2189831It's so over.
>>2190725lollmao even
>>2190725cant even be that titan, the logo alliance/corp logo it has on it through eve market is not the same
