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Rebased™ edition.
I just copied over the last general because it's going to die soon™ edition.

For discussions related to FFXI. Do not post about private server drama because no one cares. Also, no one cares about Phoenix vs. live servers - play what you like. Keep your delusions in a journal. Yes, this includes you schizos posting about random names in a FFXI thread and staff trying to damage control under the guise of anon.

Retail
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

Private servers
Catseye
https://catseyexi.com/
Eden
https://edenxi.com
Eventide
https://www.eventidexi.org/
HorizonXI
https://horizonxi.com/

Resources
https://flippantry.com/skillchain/
http://www.ffxicalculator.com/
http://www.pyogenes.com/ffxi/timer/v2.html
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Main_Page
https://classicffxi.fandom.com/wiki/Classic_FFXI_community
http://campsitarus.blogspot.com/

Dead thread: https://boards.4chan.org/vm/thread/2182823/
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>>2200112
It's only on page 9, we still got another week before it dies edition
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Phoenix not mentioned because post was made by pre-banned woman hands. When will "she" stop
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>>2200112
Yoshitaka Amano > Akihiro Yamada
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>>2200119
Phoenix is irrelevant.
Go cry about it on Reddit.
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>>2200120
Water is wet
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>>2200124
was it because you found out they didnt want you on their server?
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>>2200124
Setsuko banned from Eden 2.
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>>2200187
who
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>>2200187
not a literal question btw i don't actually care who susanko is
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New thread.
Same old schizos.
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The Horizon melties are coming out in force today
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>>2200211
luckily for the thread schizophrenics have an average lifespan of only 60 years, and most of you old fucks are there
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>>2200217
Thank god maybe xiggers can have their threads back.
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Move on with your lives.
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When is the next attempt at a linkshell on Bahamut?
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>>2200210
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo-no-Mikoto
Educate yourself, lorelet
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Anyone else looking forward to AI generated ToAU on Horizon?
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>>2200179
>>2200187
No you retarded schozo
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>>2200320
No I'm too busy thinking about all of the mentally deranged people who are going to plant themselves on Phoenix for everybody else's benefit.
Go fuck off to your 150 pop autistic circle jerk.
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>>2200390
Go to bed, Beasty. We know you aren't getting through sleep.
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>>2200400
Did logfag and eustice escape their containment board?
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Non-cringe thread

>>2200455
>>2200455
>>2200455
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>>2200459
Why would you make a third general on a slow board? Are you actually retarded?
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>>2200459
>guy talks to himself on his own schizo thread
More at 11

Horizon rebase is going to fuck everything up, people are already bracing for it.
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>>2200562
Supposedly also releasing some new info today.
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>>2200459
>missing links
Honestly just kill yourself
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>>2200459
delete your duplicate thread before we all get placed back on /vg/
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>>2200320
No I’m looking forward to Critical’s AI vibe coding on Phoenix
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>>2200668
don't threaten him with a good time, some schizos posting here would be happy if this thread dies.
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>>2200672
Schizos keep making these dogshit threads then contribute nothing for 500 posts. Anons don't post here they find the group then never visit again.
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>>2200671
Fuck off, everything that Phoenix makes has to be reviewed by LSB. You should be more worried about AI slop in Horizon where there are 0 standards for their dogshit.
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>>2200719
the toxic phoenix shills are making people not want to play there.
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>>2200746
Same shills flooding this place with too many threads. /vm/ jannies will kick us out.
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>>2200746
Brain damage detected.
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I don't know what race to roll for Phoenix
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>>2200842
HP is probably going to matter even more with all these mobs that are getting massive base damage boosts

So basically not taru
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1 week remains.
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>>2200746
Samefag Horizon coper keeps seething about Phoenix in this thread. Please, stay mad because it's hilarious how out of touch you are.
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How long does it take to get through the entire FFXI story. Is that something I can do solo?
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>>2200746
>>2200927
Relax, you’re both retards
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>>2200938
You can do it in a month. Try it on retail. Some of us have pivoted to Odin if you want company.
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>>2200955
How's odin been? thinking about coming back
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the ppl constantly creating threads are obsessed with wanting thread ownership. Quick google search says its because it gives them access to ppls IP address.
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>>2200965
Not as crowded as Bahamut but I also play late NA so I see the JP pop. I don't notice any bot spam because I use hush.
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>>2200969
newfag
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>>2200970
last I remember the nips were all in a linkshell or two together and they're all pretty close-knit, so it might seem like it's less active, but they just don't use yell all that much but they're a good 60% of the server
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>>2200981
Every one I've come across has been friendly or helpful. Helps explain the quiet global chat.
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>>2200885
Taru was never an option but thanks for your input
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>>2200955
WoTG will take a solid month by itself. Zilart takes 10 hours, ToAU takes a few days, CoP take a week or so of just hard grinding everything. I don't remember how long Adoulin took.
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>>2200987
Yeah they're all really stacked and competent too.
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>>2200842
when i asked last thread people said mithra was the best.
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>>2201050
Hume is just as good as mithra is.
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>>2201016
Can do these simultaneously yeah? Don't need to be Zilart before doing CoP, etc?
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>>2200126
water is dry
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>>2201050
If you’re a metaslave, galka for the hp.
The reasonable answer is:
Depends on the job you want to play.
Taru for mages
Mithra or taru for dex/agi modifiers
Galka and elvaan for tanky jobs or str/vit modifiers
Mithra or hume if you want something balanced.
The real answer is:
It doesn’t fucking matter.
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>>2201315
Nothing ever matters
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>>2201371
We know, Carl
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>>2201315
Mithra are the best heck tarus.
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>>2201167
You need rank 6 to start Zilart, CoP you can start whenever, you just need to zone into lower delkfutt's tower to begin CoP, for WoTG you just need to enter one of the maws outside of Jeuno, for ToAU you need to do a quest to get access via the tenshodo and then talk to naja salaheem
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>>2201315
Elvaan make better white mages because of HP, if you're WHM/SCH that extra HP gives you more to store with sublimation. WHM survivability is better in endgame than high MP with midget HP.
Yes, it doesn't matter I agree with this wholly. Mithra and Hume are ideal for everything. It's better to like what your character looks like than to care about its stats. Elvaan and Galka black mages can tank a hit or two which is more important than it sounds.
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>>2201489
>whm/sch
Wasn’t there an entire force of whm shills talking about how sublimation sucked especially on sub job compared to refresh?
Anyway tarus make up for that difference in mp, assuming we are talking about 75cap. Elf has the second worst mp in the game.
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>>2200719
She admitted to AI coding, why are you so mad about the truth?
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>>2201527
WHM > SCH
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>>2201547
proof??
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>>2201560
Ok Rahne
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>>2201547
Boomer hands wrote this. I hate to break it to you but every tech company out there is heavily using AI to code. Someone using it for a volunteer project is the least of your worries if you're gonna bitch and moan about it.
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>>2201566
Wow how did you know :(
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>>2201569
this is unfortunately true, humans are lazy slop monsters and will continue to deplete our resources at absurd rates just to prevent themselves from thinking too hard. it's everywhere, making everything even shittier than before, until we all die in the water wars
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>>2201572
Because you’re an annoying cunt that argues everything in bad faith, For the le epic devils advocate funny troll. Idk i just think you’re annoying so I guessed.
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>>2201583
i thought the schizo namedrop thread was the other one? can you take your pathetic crushposting elsewhere
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>>2201583
Easiest posting of my life.
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>>2201477
Thanks anon
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>>2200459
That thread is pretty cringe with all the name dropping by the same person.
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>>2201527
Elf also has the highest MND (not that it matters all that much), while Taru has the lowest HP and VIT and dies in 2 hits to literally everything
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>>2201489
>It's better to like what your character looks like
that's why I'm having trouble deciding man I don't care about le stats
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>>2201050
because it is
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>>2201527
that doesn't matter, once you get refresh, ballad, evoker's your max mp will be irrelevant. What will be relevant will be your ability to survive a meteor from King Behemoth and your little tarutaru friend is going to get stomped with his 700 base HP at 75.
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>>2201755
Have you scrolled through the character creator to see your options? If stats don't matter then you should at least see what you like.
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>>2200459
>only difference is a lack of the only private server with a sizable playerbase
not very subtle anon!
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>>2200283
XI drama is my life.
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>>2200938
If you no-life it you can do it in a couple days, otherwise a few weeks. The big bottlenecks are all the "wait until Japanese midnight to continue" you'll run into.
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>>2201869
>wait until Japanese midnight to continue
I thought they removed these?
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>>2200938
for a normal person it'll take you 2 or 3 months if you only focus on the story. It's all soloable until you get to the mechanics that require multiple players to interact with things to win. but those are all near the end of the story anyways
>>2201876
Most of them are just "wait 1 real life minute," or "wait one Vana'diel day" now
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>>2201165
Meta pivoted hard from Taru, even for mages. Their HP pool is just too low, everyone else lives with 5~10% hp, but the Tarus die. That extra INT/MP doesnt count for much when you're dead anytime the mob farts.

Elvaan and Galka is the Meta, Galka for extra survivability, Elvaan if you're going to be a mage at all. Elvaan tends to make better DPS, Galka are tanks, that said a Paladin benefits from a Elvaans MP/MND more than a Galkas HP/VIT as the former tends to be harder to stack in defensive gear than the latter, but for all other tank jobs you're better off with a Galka.
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>>2201774
For furfags, faggots, and degenerates yes
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>>2201863
cant you do something more interesting like OSRS drama
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>>2201935
Name 1 FFXI player who is not a degenerate. That's right you can't roll Mithra.
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>>2201964
me
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>>2201966
Shut up faggot post those Mithra feet.
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>>2201572
It was obvious because you're here everyday obsessively making posts for clout.
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>>2201583
Beat me to it.
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who
who
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WHO? WHO?
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>>2202180
In game model.
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I've already done Elvaan and Mithra so I guess I'll go Hume when Phoenix arrives
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>>2201878
This helps thank you
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>>2202256
Solid. I can play everything but tarutaru and galka. Disproportionate legs are just so ugly.
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I'm assuming that the guys that play retail on here aren't playing private servers much mind and the people talking about private servers are just hopping from one to the other.
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Ashita is about to be update to 4.30. This finally fixes hidpi scaling issues and memory leaks.
How many private servers will eventually update their bundled/whitelisted Ashita? Zero.
Retail stays winning.
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>>2202710
is it gonna break my plugins?
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>>2202721
Updating Ashita means needing to update all plugins, yes. All the plugins I use have been updated already except for nameplates and I think a dev has rebuilt somewhere. I'm not sure why the nameplate guy hasn't updated since they released a new build for Windower a month ago.
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>>2202709
i played on retail until maybe 2021, after I left so much happened and i don't want to upgrade any more gear.
DO: new content, GET new currency, UPGRADE the piece of armor you've upgraded 8 times already now
JSE neck, buy stuff in AH, max it out.
JSE right earring, ??? upgrade, it's after my time.
??? New ultimate weapon, not interested in relic noir
Oh +3 empy, cool, just synergy it with all the other +4 pieces already so i don't have to upgrade 3 different armor sets.
Oh, her look, some new crafted+ upgraded armor set that's 95% as good, or probably even better in some cases, catch-up welfare armor set, Ambuscade 2.0?
I don't know.
Is everything still item level 119?
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How did Nasomi get such an old client running? Was his server something really custom or what? It had the circa-2004 login page and was pretty much zilart-CoP era correct except for the tweaks he made.
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>>2202894
>except for the tweaks he made

Nothing under the hood about Nasomi was accurate. Remember when attack didn’t cap for years?
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>>2202710
>whitelisted
Only white people can use that word
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>>2202894
>nasomi and "correct" in the same post
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>>2202960
I'm not talking about any of the formula guesswork, just the client itself looks like he ripped it from a ToAU or older install disc
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>>2202709
Pretty much.
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>>2202894
Is Nasomi even around anymore? I hear about it but never tried.
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>>2203084
Yeah it's still on life support. It doesn't have 1500 people anymore and for good reason. Literally any other server is better
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>>2203137
I wonder if they will merge their users to Catseye just so people don't throw away their years of progress. Sad to see servers die in the gaming circle of life.
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>>2203177
i doubt Nasomi would ever do something that cool for his players.
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>>2201957
osrs is the most easily trolled community i highly recommend making drama there
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>>2203872
Is their playerbase 40 year old boomers like FFXI though?
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>>2203920
They hit their peaks at around the same time.
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>Are there any sackholders online?
>I need help holding this ginormous sack
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>>2204091
You guys are getting linkshells?
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What's the LS on Asura?
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>>2204462
>meeting people on the bot and merc server
anon...
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>>2204476
I have an old account there. Should I reroll elsewhere?
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>>2204478
iirc both Asura and Bahamut are closed so you're kinda SoL
I think most people are rolling on Odin now, but don't take my word for it since I don't play retail
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>>2204484
Thanks anon. I'll try for Odin then.
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Spent a few weeks playing on Horizon.
Every single thing is camped 24/7 like these people do this for their day jobs.
People would rather solo than team up.
Everyone subs beastmaster and solos.
Kazham areas have about 8 paladins or monks who have pulled everything in the zone and sit semi-afk getting parry and guard skill ups
Grouped with at least a dozen people who were just fucking clueless like have never played this game before.
Bard who can't use lullaby, pulls with requiem, has skills in the early teens at level 40
Red mage who blows his entire mana wad skilling up, doesnt help heal, silencing mobs who don't even cast magic.
Melee who don't even have ninja unlocked. DDs are just fucking bad, 50% accuracy or lower, hasn't skilled up since the 8 dunes/qufim parties they had in a row, but we're in cnest/shitadel.
Get people whispering me all day asking if I want an exp party.
No, not really.
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>>2204750
Are you not supposed to pull with requiem? What else is there to pull with?
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>>2204755
Seriously? Pebbles. You pull with pebbles. Then you pull the mob(s) back to the camp and lullaby them right on top of the melee. Then you start your song rotation.
I just taught you how to 1-75 bard
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>>2204759
Sounds gay. I'll let someone else pull.
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>>2204760
Bards who can't pull are like Ninjas who can't tank
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>>2204763
Not my job.
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>>2204764
I've kicked and replaced plenty of shitty bards
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>>2204766
Oh wow. Guess I'll just go find a different party.
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>>2204768
Enjoy your 4k exp an hour, I just taught you how to get 30
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>>2204750
You're insanely late into the servers life, so of course everything is camped. The private servers are the most fun when they first release and everyone is in level up mode so everything isn't camped and you have a bunch of good players EXPing. All the tryhard fucks have their Maat's caps already.
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>>2204755
A thredony or elegy if you don’t want to use pebbles.
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>>2204965
Pebbles have always been ideal, you get 25y, and you don't get casting locked after using it and end up getting smacked around on your way back to camp.
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>>2205031
Just change gear on pull if you're worried about spell lock.
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>>2205219
I just use JAZero, fuck the police
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>>2205249
Hell yea brother
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>>2205249
BRO NO YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT AAAAAAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>2205249
Is this worth having?
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>>2204750
I have made every single one of my parties in horizon. This is not even remotely true, especially the kazham part
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>>2205933
Making parties sounds miserable.
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>>2205941
Are you one of those miserable cunts that sits in cities flagged up alt-tabbed complaining the game is dead when nobody invites your WAR/WHM or some other dumb shit? Maybe you should go play something with an automatic group finder or dungeonfinder lil gup
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>>2205952
I sit AFK seeking with a seacom and reply within a minute of invites. I don't say no to weird comps or off meta camps and I want to try new things. Just because I don't like making parties doesn't mean I'm a shitty party member.
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>>2204764
It is actually quite literally your job if you're on bard in an exp party.
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I've noticed XIUI (HXUI?) has been updated alot lately with nice functions by Shuu, who also seems to be a dev/admin of Phoenix, great news for that server possibly?
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>>2206039
HXUI got renamed to XIUI and shuu added a feature that Aerec had a retarded melty over

muh casting progress bars, LMFAO
even though the moron approved targetlines which is objectively a cheat. not to mention nolock kek
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>>2206039
I thought Shuu was making add-ons for any server. Good service for the community at large either way.
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>>2206055
he is, but he was nice enough to fork his app for a separate horizon approved version, since Aerec has some retarded vendetta against being able to see enemy cast bars.
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>>2206039
he's also making a new hotbar addon
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>>2206070
I'm guessing it makes it too easy to keep track of certain mob abilities you need to focus on like facing away from a lizard or he'll petrify you (half of the playerbase fails this)
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>>2205933
When's the last time you spent 10 minutes in yuhtunga or yhoator jungle? theres 4 monk or paladins in each zone holding 15 mandragoras each and skilling up their block before rebase.
Go check, or stfu
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>>2206072
Yeah I saw, not a fan of XIV icons for XI spells/abilities but it's something neat I suppose
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>>2206081
if it's anything like Thorny's crossbar app, you'll be able to modify it with your own custom images for each slot
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>Aerec just happens to start streaming right as Skold does a phoenix dev stream
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>>2206070
It's good to see some contributing members setting aside drama to help others. Could you imagine the state of FFXI if people didn't have an us vs them mentality?
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>>2206093
We would have had WoTG and all mini expansions complete by now if people weren't retards

At least now we have a good enough understanding of the game to make it pretty good though so maybe it was good it took this long
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>>2206076
The problem is it's inconsistent. SimpleLog already shows combat messages equally as fast as any enemy castbar addon would. SimpleLog removes the original chat delay that exists in the base game, and that addon has been approved since day 1.
So technically, if you have SimpleLog enabled, you already see enemy abilities faster than someone who doesn't.
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>>2206110
I wish I wasn't so braindead so I could help. Excited to see how LSB and future private servers develop.
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Catseye has 1k people online right now.
No, they're not all boxes.
110 of those are Crystal Warriors
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>>2206111
AIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO POINT THAT OUT!!! DON'T USE YOUR EARS TO HEAR MOBS READYING ABILITIES OR CASTING SPELLS EITHER

ALTANA SAVE ME YOU ARE CHEATERS!!!
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>>2206126
Horizon also has the highest player count it's had in over a year, just outside NA prime time
Not sure if that's just rebase hype or something else.
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>>2206140
all the people snowed in right now!
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I want to get into endgame but I don't like to dedicate days of the week for games, I play when I have time. I've done PUG dynamis full split groups and those are fun, but that's basically all I ever play with my 75 jobs. For other endgame events, are you doomed to schedule like you're clocking into work? Are the mega LSes more lenient and go with whoever signed up? Even if I have to climb through DKP I'll be fine with that. Horizon btw.
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>>2206258
>I want to get into endgame but I don't like to dedicate days of the week for games
MMOs are not for you bwo
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>>2206140

totally legit numbers, its funny that a day after i posted this literally a few days ago they just so happend to jump up to 2500+

almost like its fake pop
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>>2206262
Strange, apparently 95% of the game was for me though. Maybe the way the other 5% works is retarded.
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>>2206282
Yeah my mistake
MMO endgame isn't for you because scheduling shit is all you do in any of these games
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>>2206263
its 1k in off hours and 2.5k during prime time
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>>2206313

Lol literally a week ago it was averaging 1800 during prime time, gtfo Aerec
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>>2206258
It just depends. Some people like to do casual endgame shit. I can't stand strict HNM linkshells where participation is mandatory.
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>>2206320
Well it's 2613 right now.
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>>2206320
Shit weather and weekly reset day.
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>>2206258
HNMs are probably a no go if you don't want to follow a schedule, their entire existence requires you to show up at exact 1 hour spawn windows on horizon. Poopsockers would change up their sleep schedule around the spawn timers when I was playing.

You might be able to show up and get some rot items if you're playing a job like Paladin but if you're a DD or healer, you're probably never getting an item and your time spent in game would be sitting around for an hour potentially doing nothing.
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Phoenix Server reaching 1k members lets goooo!
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>>>>>>>>>ERA+ BLU, COR and PUP
how bad will it be? if it even happens
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>>2206481
COR: nerfed to uselessness
BLU: weaker than before (didnt need to be changed for the most part)
PUP: BST 2
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>>2206481
Considering they are deleting some COR rolls outright, pretty bad
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>>2206481
As long as I can play the jobs I really don't care.
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>>2206525
HOLY COPE
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>>2206529
HEAVEN FORBID SOME OF US HAVE FUN ANON
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>>2206540
>having fun playing on a mangled version of the game that sucks

Faggot
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>>2206544
>malding about others are having fun
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>I'm having fun I swear guys I'm really having fun!!!!!
lol
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>>2206549
It’s unlikely you play the game at all otherwise you wouldn’t be pretending to enjoy the dogshit balancing choices Aerec implements
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>crashing out because people have fun
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>>2206560
Why would I waste time in a video game I'm not enjoy and spend time posting about it? Do you truly like basic critical thinking skills?
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>>2204541
For any other anons joining Odin, I recommend picking up a pearl to the DK linkshell (there are two currently, DKOB, or the overflow, OKDB).
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>>2206089
Don't worry Aerec, Rahne, Spicyryan, and Gweiv will all burn in hell for the things they've done. We can't see it but the father will. They know what's waiting for them.
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Your daily reminder that Horizon is the only server without working ToAU.
Instead of waiting on Aerec and co to polish this turd until it shines, you could go play one of your favorite jobs on a better server.
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>on a better server
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>>2206725
have you considered that private server shitters don't deserve toau
when toau came out it was relentlessly shit on because muh endgame muh dwagons muh walmart turban when everything was peak
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>>2206823
Peak was 90/95 cap pre-adoulin. All the private servers shut on it because it's not 75 enough for them and they think Abyssea ruined FFXI when in reality the 75 era was dog shit anyway
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>>2206072
Its such a convenient and elegant way to solve the issue of having to make macros for every goddamn spell and ability, but also for stuff like timing skillchains and magic bursts. Why didn't Squeenix ever think of this? It feels so natural, like something the game should have always had.
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>>2206481
Call me when they got RUN and GEO implemented like on based Catseye.
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>>2206823
The Walmart turban will be nerfed, don't worry.
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>>2206838
XI is/was always dogshit, we're just addicted to it.
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>>2206900
The way XIM implemented showing what you can skillchain with was amazingly convenient. There's already skillchain add-ons that tell you when/what to chain with but the visual indicators in XIM are great.
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>>2206902
>based catseye
just play retail at this point
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>>2206911
Why? Catseye is better.
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>>2206914
idk if retail is like this aswell cause I've only played Eden/Horizon but I got to level 5 in like two minutes of me stepping outside the gate (granted alot of XP was from Records, wich I also kinda hate as a system) but I could just tell none of my progression was gonna be meaningful in the long run.
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>>2206917
Your first trip to 75 is on easy mode, this is so you can get up to speed so you can start engaging with the plethora of level 75 content. Subsequent trips to 75 are at base rates.
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>>2206930
I didn't even know about prestige, damn now I def. don't wanna play CatseyeXI
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>>2206943
For me it's that you got a relic when you hit 75 initially and they removed that. Being down an entire relic because you started playing too late sucks.
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>>2206943
You level up a lot faster in Catseye, and 200k exp/hr isnt hard to come by in mana burn parties as long as you have syncs.
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>>2206944
They used to give people completed mythics. I can't stand ACE, it's chock full of people who never learned how to play.
Catseye is only good for Crystal Warrior. I guess WeW is good too, and if you're playing WeW you can join plenty of groups that just do ventures and because you're 1x the group will gladly use you as a sync so they don't burn through a venture camp in 4 minutes.
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>>2206944
>entire relic
Relics on Catseye aren't a LS wide Ponzi scheme where you have to convince everyone to funnel currency to the PLD or BRD so you can be the LS with Aegis or Ghorn like they are on retail and other servers, you can solo grind a relic in a few days time, being down a relic isn't a big deal.

Mythics however are a big deal there.

The general weapon progression on Catseye is Fomor -> Oboro -> Relic -> JoL/Dragons/ect -> Mythics
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>>2206944
Based if true. Free relics were retarded.
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>>2206992
Mythics are retarded because that one asshole linkshell monopolizes the Medusa/gurfurlur/Ja Ja drops, like wtf do you get out of depriving everyone else from them?
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I would love to violently beat up the subhumans in horizon who genuinely think clicking on the dynamis interactable is supposed to be “competitive”.
Aerec if you are reading this:
I can accept hnm camping.
I can tolerate nm camping thanks to bcnms.
I can tolerate sky nm camping.
I can tolerate camping an nm like shiki and even applaud that you put its drop in other sources.
I cannot fucking tolerate that you allow people to get dynamis sniped just because they think its competitive. You might be doing this server for free but you also need to respect peoples fucking time.
There are people who literally cannot get clears because of people just sniping a zone while a dozen other people preparing and waiting for it.
There is no reason why there shouldn’t at least be a schedule or a cooldown for this.
Fix it now or else. Being a private server is not an excuse for breeding a toxic ass community of players. I expect you to ban people for sniping as well.
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>>2207002
Aerec doesn't actually post here, he posts on Reddit with all the other queef snarfers.
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>>2206998
In the LS I played in the LS officers would bank them and they kept a tally on the discord of which trophies were banked and when you were ready for the final stage they'd give you a set of them. So they'd hold onto them until you had your 99 imperial gold, catseye, znm trophies, ect all ready to go. That way they didn't have 20 people with 20% progress on a mythic hoarding gurf helms and the LS members got to see which of the three HNMs the LS needed to focus on hunting. Also they had a rule where you could lock an item and no one else could claim it if you were the one who collected the keys for the HNM, if multiple members had keys you're /random for the privilege of using your keys. So if you absolutely wanted a gurf helm you could go out collect the keys for gurf, win the /random and lock the helm and that'd supersede the officer holding onto it. Though they generally frowned on people just selling trophies, I think they let you if you went about it that way.
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>>2207002
Not having instances is the greatest problem with XI private servers. Having to wait around for another Dynamis or Limbus group to finish on Horizon is why I stopped playing. It's just a complete waste of time and it throws off your entire schedule.

At the very start of Horizon, there was a grace period where people reserved Dynamis and those reservations were respected but then a group reserved Xarcabard for 2 months straight during prime time on the weekend and all hell broke loose.
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>>2207002
Do you want Era or Era+?
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>>2207015
Kill yourself faggot I know you’re the one sniping to do lowman farms
You should be fucking griefed to death.
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>>2207019
NTA, but less gay servers exist. Sorry you got invested in Aerec's Nasomi 2.0 project.
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>>2207019
Yes bro its all me, working on my 6th relic and I'm at 125/179 hundos atm.
So almost done! I'll let you 'tards have the zone when its complete.
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>>2207002
Aerec doesnt play the game, he doesn't care
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>>2207030
>doesnt play the game
That's good. That's what you want. If they did play the game they'd be focused on vanity bullshit that makes their character special. You don't want the guy who runs to the show to be an active player and member of the community it just leads to them exploiting their position to get ahead in the game.
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>>2207048
idk if he plays besides stream but he was streaming his hardcore character yesterday lol
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>>2207098
He plays he just doesn’t work on the server.
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>>2206581
NTA but I did this, thank you!
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>>2207002
>game respects your time
Perhaps FFXI isn't the game for you, because I've never seen it respect anyone's time.
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>>2207347
my time is worthless
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>>2207347
"Respecting my time" is such a cop out too for this kind of game. It's just another way of saying they want more instant gratification. There's plenty of other games to play than bastardizing FFXI into custom bullshit because you want your shiny pixels on a video game faster.
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>>2207347
Try XIM, its FFXI without any of the time gating.
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>>2207494
it's not really the same experience if you're by yourself
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>>2207526
other people are just a way to waste your time.
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>>2207485
>instant gratification
He is being dishonest and saying that so he can keep sniping dynamis with lowmans while someone tries to get together an alliance of people. There is a difference in spending a lot of time grinding and literally being unable to do content because of some ass hole. People got in trouble for doing that shit in retail too.
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>>2207561
that's what happens when running dynamis is literally the only thing worth doing and the devs refuse to add account lockouts so tryhard retards are running that shit 6 times a week
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>>2207561
Honestly I think they're based for doing it. Its not their responsibility to make sure they're not stepping on someone else's toes and if it results in that shit getting instance'd all the better. The fact that a lowman group can snipe the zone and claim it out from under an alliance is retarded and should be fixed and they're bringing it to a head. I hope they make some cool relics and flex on the nerds trying to get dynamis clears while they're at it.
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>>2207572
If you think Horizon has a lot of relics right now, imagine how many there would be if there was no competition on dynamis zones if it was instanced.
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>>2207645
>1 entry per account per week
>single box server
ggez
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>>2207645
Good, the Era ponzi scheme around relics was fucking stupid. Some of the worst end game "content" in any game in history.
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>>2206900
where can i get this?
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>>2207645
This is why pop HNMs can be a terrible idea. Eventide went with that method and had to prepare for an inflation of drops, even with their lower population. Takes more consideration and adjustment from the dev side.
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>>2207662
Chains addon for windower/ashita will give you this.
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>>2207667
i meant the specific hotbars anon posted
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>>2207672
I think that's only available in XIM
https://xim.pages.dev/?mode=game
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>>2207672
that's from a browser based ff11 fan game called xim. it's surprisingly high quality.
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>>2207677
ohh i feel stupid now, i only use the asset viewer for .dat modding, didnt play the game
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>>2207684
i liked the game a lot, i'd recommend trying it out if you have spare time.
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Speaking of XIM, that lance they give you at the end of XIM is just fucking silly. I love it.
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>>2207689
based
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>>2207689
Damn, that's good as fuck. I need to do the final area one of these days.
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>>2207645

I really don't understand why anyone would even attempt to start horizon at this point, you are literally trying to climb a mountain with no legs whistle everyone else is going up for the 5th time in a helicopter.
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>>2207708
End game doesn't matter to 90% of players. People want to play and have fun with friends.
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>>2207740

>Fun with friends

My brother in rotting christ, you can have fun with friends in LITERALLY EVERY OTHER GAME.

If a game requires you to have friends to have fun in it, it is a SHIT GAME.
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>>2207771
Calm down anon.
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>>2207778

Once you grow a brain i will, there are so many better games than this waste of life that expired 20 years ago.

Rust / DBD / Mario Party / Mario kart (old) and a near infinite supply of "party" or "fun with friends" games on steam for sub $20, its a joke, this game isn't about friends, its about being a life, job, and friend replacement for those who have none of the above.
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>>2207771
imagine saying this about monopoly or soccer lmao. just go play a different fucking game idiot! every other video game on earth caters to friendless losers like you!
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>>2207796
>this game isn't about friends, its about being a life, job, and friend replacement for those who have none of the above.
this anon is right on the money. 75 cap ff11 is a neet's playground. it drove many a nip to hikikkomori status for a reason, it demands your life. it is your life if you want to do endgame.

i've never seen a game that respected my time less than 75 cap ff11 and i fucking love it.
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>>2207796
my brother in autism, that picrel would have absolutely gassed your schizoid ass
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>>2207806

You clearly don't know m e then.
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>>2207808
you are passionately arguing about ffxi and friendship on 4chan. we don't need to know more to know you would have not made it in nazi germany
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>>2207818

Stop derailing the conversation and explain to me how i am wrong.
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>>2207822
wrong about what, your subjective opinion that the game is bad? or the argument that ffxi is a friend/life/job replacement for losers? or the incorrect cope that you would not be deemed unfit by society and euthanized by nazis
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>>2207828

>Literally said nothing

Thanks for proving me correct.
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>>2207834
i asked you to specify what you wanted me to disprove - which you were unable to do, because you are an idiot, who would have been killed by nazis for low iq and asocial behaviors
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>>2207840

You know what i was referring too, stop playing dumb, though that might be hard for you.
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>>2207844
so are you a nazi propaganda bot or what? how do they trick social rejects like yourself into believing that they won't gas you if they come into power again? you can't even carry a simple conversation so you are either mentally unwell or some kind of ai slopbot that can't remember 2 posts up
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>>2207854

>Derailing conversation again

K ill let you too it bud, keep thinking you aren't a pathetic loser, i'm sure it will work out.
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>>2207855
well, unlike you, I have friends, a job, and a life so whether or not some 4chan neonazi larper thinks I'm a loser is kind of irrelevant
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>>2207856

I dont think you fully understand the concept of experiential programming and how it effects future actions, or how much different current reality would be had history taken a less than (or greater than depending on temperament) optimal path. 4Chan in such a situation would likely not exist.

To your other point, i am certain you are lying.
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>>2207882
what are your thoughts about playing final fantasy xi for fun
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Any fellow Moblin Maze Mongers pures here?
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>>2207983
gay event for faggots with no real rewards
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>>2208001
>he doesn't know
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>>2207856
>mald on-site workers ITT
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>>2208001
>Go in
>Reset your 2 hour
>Warp
IDS ABMUSCADE TIME
>Go in
>Reset your 2hr
>Warp
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>>2207856
but you're on 4chan daily..............................................................................................................
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>>2207003
Aerec, Rahne, Caelic, and Spicyryan are probably all going to hell for the things they've done. God sees everything even if we cannot.
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>>2204750
This has always been my issue with horizon. The creators of XI originally said that they didn't intend for servers to house more than 1,000 concurrent players at a time. Horizon did nothing to tackle overpopulation.

It's been interesting watching this social experiment, I admit. Very reminiscent of the mouse utopia.

I haven't logged in for a long time. Is the economy still shit?
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>>2208040
it's a videogame fren
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>>2208044
Absolute Judaism.
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It's simple:
I just play for a couple hours, do some exp grinding (got to 20 on BRD the other day) maybe fish a little, do some solo exping on BST. I dont even really know what Dynamis, Limbus, Bingus, Majingus are and I dont really care to know. It's cool that it exists for poopsockers, but I'm not that kinda guy.
And I'm having fun.
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>I'm having a blast on horizon bros please just close your eyes and plug your ears
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I know you want me to hop on Catseye, retail or even Phoenix when it comes out... but... I simply wont!! Haha I'm really sorry but it is what it is!
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>>2208174
this except I'm playing on eden lol
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>>2208187
No one plays on Eden
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>>2208153
I started playing bard again because I always end up maining bard for some reason. I guess it's because I'm good at it.
Horizon should have given bard pianissimo and bumped its dagger from C+ to at least B+, but the idea of bard being anything but a buff bitch is foreign to Aerec and co.
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>>2207771
>fun with friends in LITERALLY EVERY OTHER GAME
>but game is shit if friends are required
Wat
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>>2208034
I use the Abyssea-Altepa method like a chad
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>>2208414
Cuija's often not up, and MMM is always up!
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>>2208433
The cucktuar is always up for me because nobody kills it on my server



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