Spiral Knights is a top-down, dungeon exploring action MMO. It plays similarly to the 2d Zelda games.>Downloadhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/99900/Spiral_Knights/https://www.spiralknights.com/download.xhtmlThe MMOdventure anons will be playing this for the next 2-3 weeks. Feel free to join in.>>2172128
>>2243009Improved, community-made launcher:https://github.com/lucasluqui/KnightLauncher?tab=readme-ov-fileIt appears there will be an update very soon that will update the Java version that the client uses. When this happens the Knight Launcher will probably be down for a bit.
are you telling me the knights are spiralled
how do I feed my guy? he only seems to wanna eat gems and not my useless low level gear
>>2244169first keep in mind you have to increase it's appetite by clearing levels with it equipped. sprite food may be indicated as it's favorite, but you can and should only feed it any other material you have in your inventory, keep the sprite food for level ups. higher star materials will progress the heat bar further than lower mats, to the point you may not feel progress at all if you only feed it 0 star mats.
>the quarter-yearly spiral knights thread>>2244169you gotta collect color-coded crystals during floors, it gets shared between other players so stacking them is good if everyone is running the same sprite, the colors are as follows:>red = drakon>yellow = seraphynx>purple = maskeraithgreen and blue are useless iirc. once you ccllect enough you gotta craft them at food vendors (reskinned crafting ones), or you could alternatively feed your sprite appropriate materials.battle sprite training is one of, if not, the worst grind of this game, excluding being a smartass and not going with the standard issue equipment you get from rank missions.
>>2244185>green and blue are useless iirctechnically they are not useless since sometimes they will be a requested item for the daily prestige missionin fact when it asks for minerals is basically the only time that mission is worth doing
>>2244262my bad, i haven't played in years and just waiting for the game to die off to grind thetya, however that seems not be the case because of grey havens' sudden return to add moar cosmetics and qol.
5-2 slime boss is raping me
>>2244357collect poison vials throughout the levels and bring them for the final fight, and kill the adds since they heal the boss. if you're still stuck on it in a few hours i can come to help
is there any way to stay logged in? the auto-kick is pretty annoying
>>2244267thetya's development was pretty much suspended *because* of grey haven's sudden return. It blows
>Level editor added>Game is finally updating its backend and using the newest Java editionThis is good, right?
>>2244813very promising for sure
Is it fun?
>>2245122yes. in fact it has one of my favourite boss fights in any game, the roarmulus twins. where the party basically has to solve a switch puzzle to raise and lower gates while the boss fight is ongoing in order to make the 2 bosses hit each other with their attacks. very creative boss design.
>>2245158I've always been interested in playing it but never had the time to try it out, plus all the reviews would often say it's extremely grindy. I'll give it a try. Any tips you could give to a brand new player?
Is the game kill? It's not launching anymore
>>2245340Server down early for the 64bit java switch?
>>2245341Nevermind, it was a problem on my side
>>2245234the main progression gates are the 'hall of heroes' where you can only access certain missions if your gear meets the requirements of a certain tier of armor, helmet, shield, and weapon (you need 1 of each)so for example if you're approaching the 4-star hall of heroes, don't waste materials on making 2 4-star weapons if you haven't made the other pieces yet. make sure you have at least one of each before you branch out because then you'll spend less time at those progress blocks.
is that anon who said hes stuck on the jelly king boss still around? we can party up sometime today if you're still on it
Where is this artwork from? Seems official but doesn't show up.
>>2245576that doesn't look like official art to me. i havent seen official art with blush lines on the knight's face.
>>2245593Found it. Final page after filing a complaint about someone.
>>2244407You could try queuing for a Coliseum match, I'd imagine the game wouldn't kick you out.It has a small registration fee, but it is returned when withdrawing.
>>2245576>>2245593The original version of this artwork is one of the icons you can use when posting in the games' forums, i cant find a full-sized version however
>forced pvp in the random arcade dungeonsBut why
>>2245789? Nothing like that exists
>>2245795I was doing a Golden Rook Gate elite run from Depth 0 to grind some basic materials and by the third or fourth level down I was thrown into an arena stage with two other players and told in a tooltip that I couldn't progress at all unless I fought in the arena against them. I don't understand how or why. I just decided to leave back to Haven because fuck that.
>>2245804lmao what. Arenas are normal pve stages, you just misinterpreted the tooltip. Arenas have 3 battles of increasing difficulty with an elevator to the next floor after each one. The tooltip is just saying that you can leave after the first fight instead of doing all three.
>>2245832I see, my bad. I read battle arena, 3 stages and had 2 other people immediately join the stage at the same time and jumped to conclusions.>>2245838I din't. I just left immediatly after reading the tooltip.
Post any recipes you're looking for from Basil. That way people can buy them and sell them to you if we find them.
r8 my kn8
>>2246121Pretty good, I think it can't be more than 7/10 due to being too monochromatic though.
h8 my n8
Game honestly feels really shitty with the number of enemies that just dodge attacks
the clover crusaders triumph over their most difficult challenge yet
Does this game still have an energy system like it did on release?
>>2246344No, it was removed like a decade or so ago
How the fuck does spiral knights manage to blue ball me on an update in 2026.
are we having fun
Guns are so fucking weirdI genuinely can't tell if the devs are morons or clever for how they've designed this shit
>>2244776>>2244267thetya is dead
>>2246722both
>>2246578technically yes
Quick question for the MMOdventure lads, do you stick around in a game after it's done or do you all just move on? Pretty expensive to make a Guild in this game.
>>2246875It depends on the person and if the game's fun, but most people move on.
>>2246883Figures. I love SK but I can see why most anons just move on to something else.
>>2246875Its one of the better MMOs so far but no there's really content and no reason to stay around
>want silver personal color>wiki says its only obtainable in a gacha pack that was only available for 25 days>or sold some time for 99k energy which is like 200 bucksfuck me then
>>2246973if you play the game a lot and actually get dedicated to it, you can get silver pretty easily with some decent merchanting and fsc'ingbut if youre just gonna stay around a few days then yeah, no way you can get silver PC>>2246955yeah its a shame, once you reach *5 it has such great deliberate combat. This should have been the golden standard for the genre but sadly it was too underdeveloped to be influential.
this game is too fucking grindy i give upwhat the fuck do you mean orbs and heat crystals are like 2% drop chance
>>2247372make sure you're on elite difficulty. for 3* orbs farm mission 5-2 Rise or Fallfor 4* orbs farm mission 6-2 Sewer Stashfor 5* orbs farm vanaduke and buy energy with crowns then buy orbs for energyhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=268682827
>>2247392>buy 100 energy, at 4k crowns, when a basic run only gets you like 600-800no thanks broif the game was built right this would've never needed to happen
>>2247402what are you talking about. i got 1300+ crowns from a NORMAL jelly king run yesterday. not even elite. elite vanaduke gives ~8000 crowns per run. 4k crowns is basically nothing at the point in the game where you need 5* orbs. and the orbs below 5* can be farmed pretty easily rather than bought.
>>2247372also bear in mind green treasure boxes have an extremely low chance to drop rarities (fire crystals/orbs of alchemy) so you want to basically farm missions with lots of RED treasure boxes since those are the ones that have a good chance of dropping rarities.
Get dunked on
>>2247590>rank 2-2Are people just messing around in arcade?
>game keeps telling me to reinstall even after reinstallingIt's over
im done, game is too annoying
>>2247682Nevermind.If you're using Linux, move to Steam. The Steam version is now native and the standalone version seems to be outdated.
why though it's been working flawlessly all week
>>2247725They literally just put out a major patch today. So it could just be fucked. Try reinstalling.
theres ongoing maintenance right nowpretty bad timing for this event lol
>>2247725I found a solution for the steam version.Delete everything in the game's folder then verify game files. This'll help people with Java problems and not be gaslit by fake maintenance
>>2247789just reinstalled and its fine now
>>2247725>>2247731the jump to modern java is a bit fucked, but it's simple. you have to delete this folder, because it's holding a virtual machine of the older java versions, then reinstall the game.
Posting some screenshots. This game's bosses are really fun.
This triple turret fight was very satisfying to beat.
Super fun level.
>2 bars ping>Apparently that's +151msNo...
Super fun boss.
the new installer dont work no more
>>2247392adding to this, 6-1 Axes of Evil is also surprisingly good for hunting advanceds and elites, although may get mind-numbingly repetitive. bring your farthest reaching gun and run to the small treasure cache to southwest of the start of the first floor. open the boxes and shoot the ones across the chasm too. vial throws and charged shots are the furthest reaching projectiles. if they reveal an orb, run the level to grab it, if not, restart the mission.
>>2247948nvm I got it to work
>>2247098>but if youre just gonna stay around a few days then yeah, no way you can get silver PCive wanted to get into this game since 2013 so i think i do feel inclined to stay for the long haul at least, its very charming
FUCK wolvers
>>2247402here i did 1 fsc run to double check and yeah its not hard to farm orbs or crowns in the lategame. just got to make it though the early/midgame to unlock the good farming spots. although i will admit i did have good luck this run. you wont get an orb every run
>>2245855if anyone sees a crest of almire recipie I'll buy it
it's grindslop
I don't even remember what I was doing in this game. Anyone help in game?
>>2248293yeah there's a guild you can join called clover crusaders. i think the officers names are somewhere in this thread, you can whisper them for an invite
We have a guild up, Clover Crusaders. Whisper any of these anons or post your name in the thread for an invite.
18k crowns for 3 elite orbs, need 15 to craft 4 star gear to progress which is 90k crowns am I missing something or is this game just cock and ball torture, I haven't seen a single orb drop in the 40 hours i've played
>>2247940When I first played the game, this level and boss was the bane of my existence because my computer at the time fucking CHUGGED when it came to fighting this guy.
>>2248343what missions are you playing? for 4* orbs you want to farm some very specific missions. here's a guide: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=268682827there's also some useful information about farming routes in the comments so check there. I'd start with farming the first floor of 6-2 sewer stash. or if you havent unlocked that yet, 5-2 jelly king.
>>2248343also you dont need 15 orbs you need 12. only need 1 weapon, armor, helm, shield.
>>2247392>>2247402eventually you will have a huge stash of eternals from all your fsc farms, the problem is elite orbsalso its faster to farm elite orbs by farming FSC and then buying them, rather than by actually farming for elite orbs
Game crashed and now I can't get it to launch again. Tried reinstalling, didn't help. See ya tomorrow, everyone.
>>2248756After the update, I couldn't get the game to start anymore. I've been using the Steam version. I had to not only uninstall, but also delete the game's folder manually.Then, I reinstalled it from Steam, didn't apply the custom launcher or anything, and it worked, hasn't crashed either.
>>2248756I also had to do >>2248764this morning, no longer using the knight launcher
You got me addicted to universal century gundam online a while back, which sucks because no one is playing it anymore.
>>2248764>>2248782Doesn't work, sadly. I deleted the folder manually and reinstalled. Game crashes while on the logging in screen for some reason.
>>2248787feeling like this song because im literally the only one herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBUOWTrn9xs
>>2248790You're not applying the custom launcher or anything custom afterwards right?Wild guess, but could try different display options.
>>2248787How on earth did you get addicted to it? It barely felt like a game when I played.
Man this game feels a lot easier than I left it.
Anyone need an invite?
orbslop
Can people that played this before play with new people? I remember getting stuff but I haven't played in a while.
>>2249566Yeah, damage gets scaled depending on which Tier of Stratum you're on, but of course people with rank 4 and 5 star weapons will be cleaning house in the lower stratums.
Are swordsmen doomed in this game? What do?
>>2249568So you won't like ruin the game or something if you play with new players? Or should I like downgrade armor if I play?
>>2249578If you want to metafag then the best swords are Brandish types (Archeron, Combuster, Gladius, Voltedge). You can buy a Brandish and upgrade it from there using crafting.The other good swords are the Sealed swords (Divine Avenger and Gran Faust), need 20 jelly tokens for that one, and the DLC Hammer. Also get Swiftstrike Buckler. Yes its still good at 5*.
>>2249586>So you won't like ruin the game or something if you play with new players?Nope, it'll just be faster, especially if the player with the higher gear knows how to beat bosses. Like Jelly King, get that fucker high on the Poison status and melt him down.>>2249587Adding to this anon, be careful with Gran Faust if you go for it, it can inflict Curse on enemies AND you if you use the charge attack. Curse will randomly mark some of your weapons and items, and if you attempt to use those marked items, you will be damaged, and it last for 40 seconds.
>>2249587i was planning on getting an obsidian edge because it looks cool
How do you join the group?
>>2249676Whisper anyone who's online, or more easily, post your name here.
>>2248787I remember wasting hours trying to get it working, and some guy on linux doing the same. these fags put less than the minimum effort into making their threads, and then they just fuck off and play something else.
Bomb Knights
>>2250147u are literally retarded if u struggle with troubleshooting simple technical issues in 2k26.idk what u think about llms but they are a godsend for this shit. even browns like (you) should have no issue.
Ah, I missed this starting or I would've offered to let you guys use my (dead) guild.Maybe I'll hop on and play a bit if we're still actively playing.
> They added VOIP at some point> But it's always whisper quiet> ...And already at max volumeWhat did they mean by this?
Some records of our battles.
Busy battle arena.
I swear this boss is tough...
>start game>get to haven>see a group of people>walk up>see "Trans Rights" guild>exit game
We found a love puppy (super rare)
>>2251332Based Trans Rights enjoyers.
Depth 28 danger room cleared
>>2251448I remember finding one during a JK run, left the little guy alive.
Any gunners here with recommendations for gear? I want to shoot efficiently
>>2243009>Java based gameOH NO NO NO NO
>>2252494Gearsets are pretty optimized, Perfect Seerus mask is a must if you have the DLC.Otherwise Chaos seems to be the sweaty choice if you're going to be good at dodgingIf you want a safety net and are okay with committing to gunslinging, Shadowsun and then a Swiftstrike buckler is a decent enough setBlack Kat is sorta endgame but not really easily obtainable. I've never seen Margrel/a book in my entire time playing although maybe that's a lack of effort on my part.
>>2252494It completely 100% depends on the guns you want to use, but a lot of gunner armor is a massive pain in the ass to get, so I'm going to tell you now - use the gunslinger set (cowboy hat and poncho) when they become available, and use guns with large magazines (3+ shots) to make use of the attack speed. This is by far the easiest gunner gear to get, you can just buy the recipes from the vendor in 5-2 hall of heros. Before that, just use whatever. Cyclops helm is good.
Do you guys wanna take some group photos? Let's do some later at 9:15 pm UTC, Saturday.>Time Zone Converter: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Spiral+Knights+-+Group+Photos&iso=20260221T2115&p1=1440
>>2250720Nah, this is just really shitty trolling. If you actually knew how to fix those issues, you'd have replied with that instead of saying>uhhh, try a LLM? saaars. it work for me with no issueI think like the others you changed your locale, and the game worked on your older hardware the first time, and you never once saw a completely silent crash.Otherwise, you'd have been left with no information to search for, and little to do beyond what you already knew about getting older games to work. And you'd probably be making unconstructive posts about the mmo fags instead.>uggh (you) guys are brown. i asked llms and I still cudnt get the game to work.
>>2249578https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPAb1qkuhUo>>2252494https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-GwM1g_zy4best armor for any playstyle is chaos set or black kat set
..Is there any way to get ancient pages?
Quick battle screenshot before it's time for group photos.
guild ?
>>2253768it's called clover crusaders
Thank you everyone! This game is a lot of fun.
>>2253917It is, really hope these updates are leading to pumping life into the game's story, with new weapons.
Fuck it, I'm going bomber. Wish me luck, bros.
>>2254355The realCHAD route. Good luck.
>>2254355what weapon pair best with bombs? swords, right?
>>2254355Pure Bomb? Godspeed man, especially against those turret bosses that put up shields and the Twins.
>>2254476>>2254509I'm going to need SO MUCH MONEY. Daaaaaaaangit. >>2254502Another bomb, of course.
This game's best feature is just hopping into a dungeon your guildies are doing. I wish it had better social features besides that (no easy to set up chatroom you can join if you have no guilds, terrible chat filters, etc), but that one feature makes it so easy to play with friends.
>>2254355I fucking LOVE bombers when those STUPID spike slimes appear
which one of you motherclankers ordered a nuke?
>>2254657I love when the game gives you throwables for combat, wish it did that more often.
>>2254502i mean vortex bomb + sword charge attack is pretty good
>>2251448We found one too!
>>2254628Well, this is the kind of situation I'm thinking about too. Not just the swarm slimes, but there's plenty of situations the game has intentionally spawned too many enemies for anyone to fight. Sometimes they even have shield mechanics in huge swarms. So you can neither shoot nor sword.
bombs can be pretty fun but brandish charges are better than bombs as a whole probably 90% of the time. you really need quite a few specialized bombs to really be effective with them, theres only a couple all purpose ones and they arent that good especially on their own or without slot upgrades to have a sword on you. bombs for the small little fuckers in compounds is valid though, those things are queer and deserve to be nuked.
>>2255279Joke's on you. I already have the katana and have no use for any other sword. May as well become bomberman.
>>2255361bro, your combuster?also i just said brandishes are better than bombs how is the joke on me when you already have one
>>2255370Bombs rely less on the hitreg not cheating you coming and going. Also you have PLEBIAN TASTE. Real winners use bombs ||and the turbillion.||
>>2255402Oh no, I'm tired and used discord spoiler instead of 4chan again been a while since I did that.
>>2255402once you reach tier 3 the turbillion becomes borderline unusable>Bombs rely less on the hitreg not cheating you coming and going.you wanna try rephrasing that, buddy?
>>2255279But brandishes are OP. Weapons are supposed to have defined weaknesses and not just be good against everything.
>>2255416im not saying you shouldnt use them just letting new people know that bombs are generally outclassed if they like the charge gameplay
>>2255408Yeah I'm sad they ruined my WIFE the WINMILLION and made it PURE SLOP. All those years waiting for a tier 5 and this is what it is? Man..>you wanna try rephrasing that, buddy?Anything over 50 ping is unplayable as a swordsman. Hit by nothing. Hit mid combo on a stunned enemy. Hit out of the charge attack midway through the explosions already going off by something now halfway across the screen. God forbid you are in a swarm situation cause being hit is now inevitable no matter how well you set up your approach. Now I know why my friend went with the troika line when playing. I guess a lot of anons are in the EU or something cause this is pretty bad. Was fine back in the day. Just weird and frustrating.Also I already have a full 5 star set of swordsman stuff including several 5 star swords. One of which is the archeon. Which is so close to obsessively meta already that it's fine. Which I had already finished back around the swap from mist energy to the current system. It's also ASI based and I prefer that for swording if it comes to it. I don't gain much making alternate swordsman gear. May as well try something new, and I've noticed bombing is the part of the trifeca most unfilled. Between status and space clearing, most groups need either of those really bad. One more 5 star swordsman won't help most situations. I did a trial run in 3 star gear and it felt a lot better till we obviously hit tiers I couldn't hang in with 3 star gear. One ASI swordsman can assasinate a problem mob in 3 seconds flat, but that's also not a niche the current playerbase seems to need.
>>2255440I feel the need to clarrify something.I don't have a lot of gear. I have some neat stuff, but really only the one usable 5 star set which was intended for Vanaduke back before the mission system. Some alternate stuff useful for lower tiers before the boss for niche situations. I have not been playing all this time! I quit many years ago then saw the thread on /v/ and came back.
>>2255440the ping issues are very hit or miss, solo is completely fine 95% or the time but multiplayer is a crapshoot. if ping is fucking with you though charging become more reliable, not less. unless youre surrounded from all sides AND have full aggro. all you have to do is find literally anywhere you can breathe for one (1) second, dash there, and delete something with your charge.>It's also ASI basedhonestly i barely get anything out of asi on brandishes, the combo is more of a "good enough" attack for when you dont have the time or space to charge. flourishes are much better if you just want to smack shit fast (you can shield inbetween attacks to get the first swipe three times instead of stabbing if you need and it feels great to do so)
>>2255457forgot to mentionholding shield for half a second, initiating charge, then dropping shield will save you time and let you move more precisely for the charge, works for both swords and guns, especially great for the autoguns to skip the long ass useless first attack. requires a little practice to get down reliably.
>>2255457I'm sure one day I'll go completely insane and just make the chaos set and live with the pain of status affliction for INCREDIBLE COSMIC POWER and do nothing but charge attacks on stuff.Also anon, you're supposed to use the three star shield too. You're not a WEAKLING are you? The final bit of ASI from that is a huge difference to the point you need to mind how fast you click. Unless something is corner trapped, you'll attack too fast and miss some hits. The build is basically a fire resist build that can use the archeon's charge if needed for space clearing but primarily for basically assassinating one target after another. Again, meant for Vanaduke back in the day. It's only real problem is the clot issue that seems to be hosing groups hard. But I figure a bomb suit will be fun. Besides, brandishes are OP, but I can say from experience there are practical issues with saying, "Why don't we all just uses max charge reduction brandishes?" in actual practice. I already have a 4 star ready to turn in to a nitronome from back then and the 4 star electric field. Just need at least one more status bomb to swap between and then work on 5 staring everything. Then I can still keep my snarl shield or ASI shield on with my archeon if it really comes to it. Most of this game's content is not that hard, and doing the nonsense stuff they have added will need far more money to get the right random qualities on everything and such. At which point it's probably better to just spend some real money if it came to seriously playing long term again.
>>2255484>>2255468Anons have no idea. I used to spend 20-50 bucks a month on this game back when mist energy is a thing and this is still all I have to show for it. That is INSANE. One 5 star armor set, a few 3 five star swords, a couple bombs, and two usable guns. Well, I have some alternate 4 star armors for lower tiers for damage type reasons, but now that I'm back I just live with the pain of wearing vog cub to everything. Oh and Snarl set wasn't even a set you could just.. make. You had to get to the shadow lair, and that was pure RNG if you could even do that. Couldn't even buy your ass in there. So, yeah, ASI set. Man this game was a trip back then. Too bad the swap to the current system came a bit too late.
>>2255484i would just make the chaos set instead of the bomb suit, having ctr max on everything without needing to whale for uvs is sooo nice to have. especially if youre going to be using not max leveled bombs, you will be missing that extra ctr a ton.>Also anon, you're supposed to use the three star shield tooduh, i have a vog cub set to max out asi and if im using that then im probably going to be using my gran faust or flourish instead of a charge nuke. >I can say from experience there are practical issues with saying, "Why don't we all just uses max charge reduction brandishes?"ive never had an issue running all brandishes though probably half of my 1k hours is solo and i havent really played in a year so i dont know what the current playerbase is like skillwise, everyone should be running a utility weapon in their second slot though.
>>2255440I feel like everyone should just have a third weapon slot and pack a bomb. Why wouldn't you? What else are you using those crowns for that's better than having a bomb on hand?
The best bombs are Dark Briar Barrage and Dark Retribution for damage, and Shivermist Buster, Torpor Tantrum and Electron/Gravitron vortex for support. All of those are worth making.
>>2255512Slumming it right now with 2 slots, but I had a third unlocked always back then. Yeah, why wouldn't you take a useful bomb? I have a 3 star vortex too for that reason. It's not there to even deal damage, but I feel like it's been nerfed in the intervening years? >>2255505Part of my issue may be the meta has shifted out from under me. I played back primarily when MIST was a thing. Only a little in to the shift to the current model, but they also reconfigured a lot of stuff a bit by bit over time. A lot of stuff wasn't simply.. available.. just cause you have the wealth. Pure aching RNG on even being able to buy it was for a lot more stuff than it is now, and even health/heart/capsule drops were much rarer. The new rate has to be something insane like 50x over the original. Taking ANY damage or status was a complete disaster for your run. Tension was super high, and it took energy to use every elevator and revive. With only 100 free energy every 26 hours. Vog cub with archeon as my primary sword, the buckler, and some alternate useful things was just.. sensible. Fire is the WORST especially when farming Vanaduke was the go-to activity. Now? Yeah, I'd probably make different decisions. Max CTR and DMG for being ruined by statuses? Whatever. Things can't hurt me if they are DEAD, and now we free revives.
>>2255457solo is functionally the same as multiplayer lag-wise, you must be joining someone who defaults to a different server where you have worse internet>three timesyou can swap swords just like you can swap guns, except you can do it thrice. like you can attack with the flourish 3 times and then switch (or attack twice and then do the finishing thrust instead as it hurts more)
>>2255563its slower to swap instead of shield for swords
>>2255566up to a certain point, yes, but you can only swap up to three times with something such as a flourish or brandish, youd have to switch eventually if you wanna keep spamming basics
>Just noticed this is happening>A week has already passed since the startFUCK
What's the best grind route for orbs and other materials for Rank 5? I need to get 3 star gear
>>2255628>Hewwo>uwu
You know what I'd think would make Bombs better/possible easier to fully focus into? Let us use them like the Gremlin Demos. Make the throwing range shorter than any Gun, but when they hit enemies, they quickly explode in a small radius, dealing whatever damage type they do (i.e. Dark Briar Barrage will do it's usual Piercing damage). The charge for them stays the same.
Knights <3
>>2255563>solo is functionally the same as multiplayer lag-wisenot true at all
>have to kill slime king SIX times to get ONE of its weaponswtf were they thinking
So do y'all have a guild for this or are we just playing and hoping to find people blindly?
>>2255932For you. >>2248325
>>2255934thank you for humoring my illiteracynot sure why i have my name as this atm but Riskrunner will be asking to join soon
>>2255935or later when any of them are onlinein the meantime uh why the fuck was i building a miracle cloak/hood? i've forgotten what this set is even for
>>2255931they were thinking that rjp is the best farm in the game after vanaduke that also happens to suck way less ass>>2255941chaos set, best armor in the game that isnt whale bait
>>2255831spooky
Man, how much work it takes to make a full set of anything is starting to sink in again.
>>2255279Bombs are mostly about niche value. Graviton for grouping, shivermist crowd control, etc. I'm not going to shit on anyone who wants to run full bombs and use the DPS bombs but it's mostly a support class where swords are pure DPS and guns are safer DPS with some niche uses too (Polaris does huge CC, even if it can be annoying in a party, Blitz does more burst than any sword can hope to do, etc)
>>2256031i kind of burnt out already, it was fun though
>there isn't a single 5* in the game that has a +damage vs construct bonusGenuinely irritating. It's like the one monster class it'd be useful on.
This game seems pretty small in scope from a new players' perspective, I kind of expected... more, I guess. Three daily prestige missions, four different arcade branches and the story missions that you've already completed or are cockblocking you with their gear requirements.The loot kinda sucks, too. Everything is so incremental.
Honestly this game is less grindy than most early MH games.
>>2256283And frankly most games are the same missions pretending to be different one. The combat in Spiral Knights is at least somewhat varied and actually really interesting. But if you could slam out a five star set in a day or two, what would be the point?
>>2256233Could buy or make a low * weapon with a + construct UV and upgrade it.>>2256234There's also the shadow lair areas but yeah, I think they're just harder versions of other areas. Also that one cat boss.
>>2256313I still think the endgame progression should be accelerated, like once you have a full 5* set you should be able to grind the next one faster somehow (hidden multiplier that increases the chance of getting orb drops?) or like even better FSC economy or something
>>2255928It literally is. You are connected to the same server. There is literally nothing that changes in terms of how much server you have to go through when you are playing soloIf you find yourself having more lag in multiplayer, its either just >poor luck>someone let 999 scarabs alive in apocrea>(most likely) you joined someone who plays in servers of another region, you can see the instance selector in the top right when at haven
>>2256233damage vs class is pretty whatever, nobody would actually care about it desu
>>2256233Specific monster damage bonuses are considered trash tier for the most partWhy would you want a weapon that specifically does +high damage against Constructs when you could have a weapon that does +high damage universally to everything it hits?
>>2256401>play solo>completely fine>friend joins me and not the other way around>suddenly noticeable amounts of lag in my movement and actionshm... im noticing....
I doubt it as I've looked through the modding discord, but were there any mods for making the UI scale up better? I'm only on a 2k screen but it's still so crusty.I'll probably just downscale my resolution, as annoying as checking on this thread is after doing that.
>>2256385I mean that's fair, I think? Ultimately they've settled on shilling cosmetics anyway, and that's perfectly fine. I think the issue comes down to it's first monetary model still having it's fingers in too many design choices to just.. change. Also, unfortunately, other anons were right. In the face of things like Chaos Cloak, how many 5 star sets do you need? From there you just need to find which weapon classes you actually like the feel of. Honestly, beyond the need to trick out my existing stuff in UVs and get trinkets, I could probably live in my vog cub permanently.Also, it all comes together faster than it feels like. The game just take a LOT of energy as survival takes a lot of concentration. One session through the clockwork can feel like hours. Might be a sense of time dilation when in truth, had I not been spending my effort on finalizing my look, I could have had more 5 star stuff in the few days I've been playing. Also people don't spam Vanaduke anymore which they really should be if they want more money for more stuff that badly. >>2256405>>2256474There's.. a lot of stuff like this that doesn't really matter. At times I question what they thought people should play like. Having armors for every situation isn't really that useful.
>>2256948armors other than chaos and BK are just plain bad, the issue isnt that those are particulary overpowered
>>2256974I'll agree in general terms. A lot of things are just.. bad. Why would you EVER? Well, I'll repeat something from other posts. I don't have a perfect memory of what you could or couldn't get on demand in the Mist Energy days, but I do remember some of what are now considered stock armors (thanks to being in the Hall of Heroes after you rank up) were not things you could just buy in town. A lot more stuff was Basil only. And some smaller details were different in crafting stuff and leveling it. Back then you had the choice of making something easier to obtain but obviously more limited in usefulness. And then you have the fact it was designed to be a quarter muncher. Arcade style. You were lucky to get one heart per level, healing capsules were rare, no auto revive, no sprites, and so on. They've done a lot to make the game outright easier. But when taking even one hit probably ends your entire run, suddenly having overly specific gear for every single situation isn't so insane? I have a 4 star suit JUST for playing in levels with fiends cause getting hit by a chair you didn't see thrown is too devastating to not have shadow resist. If you go down, you hope someone is feeling generous enough to give you half their health to revive you. Chaos Cloak used to be for insane nerds who were confident they could play 100% clean. I had never considered making it back then.
>>2256405>>2256474The reason it's whatever is that you have easy access to universal +damage via black kat and chaos sets, and they don't stack well with tribal damage. But I'm not building those, so it'd be useful to have a sidearm to switch to that's just really strong against constructs. You can't design your game around metafags. You have to make it playable for everyone else too.>>2257017Even if the game were more punishing, people of today would still use the high damage set. We've discovered what the broken weapons and strategies are. You can get maxed out charge time and damage on your brandish charges that do a million damage to the whole screen, there's no reason not to build it. Damage is defense, burst damage even more so.
>>2256974Also how the FU do you even get Black Kat now? Did they ever add a way to get it other than hope they rerun the event?
>Game had a problem with there being too many Element damage enemies>4 damage types are Normal, Element, Pierce, and Shadow>Element is also HolyOh I wonder why
>>2257034Well, I can tell the red daily missions are 100% intended to do with absolutely tricked out gear that deletes the screen. I tried one a few days ago with others and we got wiped, and this setup was made to farm Vanaduke back in the day. It's like I'm walking around in 3 star gear. Freakish. And I used to be so scared of those wheels. That was the one part of every Vana you knew if this group had what it took or not. One day I realized you just rush up and hope you have a way to escape if the wheels come at you. No better way. And now that I'm back, who cares? A little damage isn't a big deal. Man, this game has so much neat stuff, but yeah BRANDISH and CHAOS CLOAK it up. Cause I'm tired of spinning my wheels not able to do half the stuff in the game they added.
>>2256769Yeah, same.>dodge fine on my own, don't miss my slow sword attacks>join a public lobby>hit radius for enemies seems to massively increase>suddenly taking hits everywhere and dropping spaghetti on minor puzzlesIt definitely feels like getting a large amount of ping added, and not just having another player moving enemies.
>>2257041And this is why I have a full vog cub setup from back in the day. If I had to pick an easy first gear to get, that was it. Then I started on others, but the game emptied out. Swapping out of Mist was too little too late. I do hope a few anons stick around at least. This game is great despite it's flaws and weird jank. You will not find another game that plays like this, and you probably never will.
>>2257053>You will not find another game that plays like this, and you probably never will.I don't see why. Isn't this a pretty standard Hack n Slash? Its biggest strength is that the art team knocked it out of the park.
Anyone up for Legion of Almire within the next hour? There's only two of us guildies on right now, it would be nice to do it with 4 people.
>>2256769>>2257050Playing with someone from another server usually leads to lag. It's fine if you share a server. (Holy shit these new captchas keep getting worse)
>>2257036you can buy it from other players, but its cheaper and easier to do that during the BK season. it comes around every few months>>2257046the game is pretty skill based, in a way. eventually, specially after clearing the red missions with busted gear, you will get more and more able to do it with subpar gear or worse weapons youre experimenting with for fun. of course great teammates goes a long wayThe real rape is Grinchlin Assault, a christmas-exclusive red missionim not home right now but im down to danger missions with you guys, im a bit rusty but have plenty of maxed out gear and can usually comfortably solo those
>>2257058>>2257053theres genuinely no online rpg/mmo type thing with deliberate weighty combat like spiral knights, sadlyyou can find better in other genres, but in online rpgs youre out of luck. At most you get something that is a worse version of roll souls (ie; no rest for the wicked) that is just a coop game instead of mmo-style
>>2257065Well it's either that or grind more clockwork for dosh and hope I get orbs. Which I will be doing anyway. As I need a monstrous amount of stuff if I'm going to spec in to a new build from scratch.
its really crazy this game just died
>>2257314
>>2257373
>>2257337Mist energy was genuinely deplorable and frankly outright evil. They did it to themselves.
>>2243009got a cool shield drop, didnt know equipment could drop. Is anyone from the guild online and available to send me an invite?
>>2257393>Casually gets the ultra rare darkfang shield dropAlright luckshitter you best not be thinking you're getting into the guild
>>2257397how rare of a drop is it? is it worth trading if im not super attached to the look? also please I want to play funny knight game with internet strangers(affectionate) instead of internet strangers(derogatory)
>>2257422guild is Clover Crusaders, post ur knight name
>>2257430Squiglyhadouken
brother... 2 of them...
>>2257393>>2257397>>2257451they buffed the drop rates a few years ago they really arent that rare. idk how expensive they are now but you could get one on the ah for ~50k cr a while back. it was possible to get other equipment to drop but i dont think that can happen anymore
this game needs some fetch quests, fucks sake
>>2257451Save some for the rest of us, champ.
>>2257067Phantasy Star Online, the first one technically had similar combat and mechanics to Spiral Knights, just a lot clunkier and way more in favour of ranged/magic damage dealing and a lot less emphasis on mobility.
>>2258031>in favour of ranged/magic damage dealing and a lot less emphasis on mobility.which basically kills the whole appeal because its a lot more about braindead undeliberate ranged attack spamming rather than actually being precise and good at pressing buttons, interacting with enemies, dealing with environmental stuff, flinches and cc, etcback when i was younger i used to assume spiral knights was a sillier dumber simpler game compared to the rest of the genre and most action games, but now after playing other stuff, i realise its literally the gold standard of what the genre should have been. Sure, more fleshed out movesets, enemies etc would be great but its the opposite of everything that makes online / action rpg combat typically so badanyway whos up for some danger missions??
tried applying but no one was on, will try later
>>2258206there's more officers than the initial screenshot, what's your ingame name? i'll try to add you
>>2258380malphes
>>2258409sent invite
>>2257716fetch quests exist in terms of player-to-player merchantingand they are not easy
An update? Now? After all this time?
>>2258688Miraculously, the game has devs again as of fall last year, they added a new pvp mode recently. They updated the game client a few days ago, this update is probably just fixing issues caused by that.
>>2258688Nothing major if you live in north america or europe.
>>2258735A D E L A I D E
>>2258735They're even updating for STEAMDECK? What the
I'd be genuinely happy to see them unfuck some of the code debt, add a bit more content and hopefully get a new surge of players. I don't ever expect this game to be some huge mainstream hit but I absolutely do think it should have like 4-5x the amount of players it has right now and be a solid niche title that brings in enough revenue to be sustainable and see some active development.
>>2258775Chasing mainstream is death and decay anyway. I'd approve of this angle as well.
>>2258775would making it perfectly playable with no friction on a steam deck help?
>>2258825Honestly, maybe. This is the kind of game that i think would work really well on the Steam Deck, format-wise, and there's probably a significant amount of people who'd pick it up and enjoy it if they got a bit of advertisement going.
>>2258118>whos up for some danger missions??sure, lemme check what's today danger->heart of icefuck that
>>2258987
Top 5 cutest knight armors1. Kat lineThis upgrades from 3 stars to 5 stars and all of them look good. At 3 star it has a sad sack covering your face, at 4 star a sleeping/happy cat face hood, and at 5 star it wakes up and you get a scarf... All of them have their own appeal.2. Wolver lineSerious fur and a cute face. I also like how it looks as actual armor. Not that it'd be realistic armor, but the layered front and the fur really looks like it would block some damage.3. Angelic LineThis armor set looks more classic than other armor sets that were here from the beginning of the game, somehow. Has a skirt and ponytail, so its one of the more feminine armors.4. Almirian CrusaderA sidegrade to the Cobalt/Azure Guardian line, the Almirian Crusader set makes you look like you're determined and maybe a bit angry. I think its ideal.5. Harlequin Doll CostumeMaybe this is bad taste on my part but I think this looks good. Its a very modern costume with a big too much going on, but its a harlequin costume after all.Honorable mentions:Cherub Set (Dev only)Stranger CostumeMegadolon CostumeNefarious CostumeRose Regalia Costume
>>2259235>Cherub Seti so much wish i had that>wolveryeah i really like the sets that look like actual armor>crusadermy only issue with them is their minuscle peg legs...
>>2259521>my only issue with them is their minuscle peg legs...Could pair the Almirian helmet with something else. Not sure what though.
>>2257389Grey Havens said they managed to get back 5 out of the 6 original Three Rings team members, which didn't excite me too much. I think the one they missed was Cherub (art director) and he was the best one.
>>2260074If they got back Popovich I'd be curious to see what he can do for the game after dropping it to pursue Slime Rancher.
>>2258958Heart of Ice really isn't that bad, I've soloed it several times. Compound 42 is the true hell. It says a lot that many people craft a whole 5* armor set and shield (Dragon Scale) exclusively for Compound 42 because running Chaos is suicide.
>>2260074Fuuuuuck, I thought these were new devs who might know what they're doing instead of the same morons as before. Hopefully they've learned from their previous fuckups.
>Turn off autoaim>UI doesn't tell me what element monsters are weak to anymoreGuys...
>>2260074Cherub is off making a cyborg death rabbit.
Is the Guild Hall closed? I was going to pop in but I already have my own little solo guild I've been running since time immemorial which complicates actually joining the thread guild.
>>2260534It's open now.
>>2260421just bind a key for manual autoaim, i use f
>>2258735Holy fuck cuntI have never in 1064 hours had good internet or a close server to play sk on
>run FSC>Trojans solo without ShiverI hate the anti-christ
>>2260829trojans are fucking easy
Real grind hours question.As a FTP, at what point does it become more worth it to save up crowns to buy something right off the supply depot versus crafting it up? Between the time needed to get alchemy orbs, put heat in to items, and other concerns would it be worth it to simply.. buy off the depot after converting your crowns to energy? Take the Chaos Cloak set. Available in the Hall of Heroes, but on the supply depot that's just short of 400k for head and chest.
>>2261289i just buy orbs
>>2261289buying orbs and eating the heat cost is so so so so much cheaper than buying the item directly. heating from 4 to 5 doesnt even take that long
>>2260829>>2260912shivermist starts get annoying once people are too fast at killing enemies>>2261289weapons from the supply depot is a pure, unfiltered scam. Its only worth it if youre a very rich player and are feeling incredibly lazy, at which point youre probably better off buying such a weapon with a nice UV from another player anyway.With that said, buying orbs on SD (bar eternals) is generally better than farming them
I wish Elite orbs were easier to grind, the drop rate is so bad it makes way more sense (especially with the current cost of energy) to just grind FSC and buy them from the depot for CE.
>>2261756That's probably intentional. People exchanging energy for elite orbs and gear slots passively drives up the price of energy.
>>2262139What would drive it down?
>>2262177Market forces that I don't fully understand.
>>2257067Is there a game like this but singleplayer?
>>2262304sadly nothe closest i can think of is Astlibra for a comfy rpg with very basic gear based progression, but its still immensely farIf my next few games keep getting increasingly more successful and i somehow get rich out of them, i hope i can get my hands on the spiral knights IP when i move to 3d. I know devs usually only make their own IPs for a reason but i so much want to do a singleplayer or coop adventure
>>2262177Demand for crowns.
>>2261756I got a full set of elite orbs just from missions and grinding slime king for an Antigua.
Nitrome or Big Angry Bomb?
>>2262561Big Angry Bomb is so bad its a joke.
>>2262570why bad
>>2262589Its I misremembered. Its actually pretty good but longer charge time and slowing you down makes it a very bad first bomb, also Nitronome is used a lot, so get it first.
All these cool prize boxes run 10 years ago with cool armor that we'll never have a chance to get...
https://wiki.spiralknights.com/Nog_Blasterheh
Whorly Knights, I invite you to join in on the MMOdventure voting bonanza.Here's how you apply:Anons that already participate in this current round of voting don't need to do anything and will receive the next token automatically.Any anon that has not yet applied for a voting token can do so by following this procedure:>screenshot your character and character information window, see pic related>attach this screenshot to an email addressed at mmodventure@proton.meYou will then be added to the token mailing list and can participate in future MMOdventure polls.The verification screenshot can be from a previous MMOdventure title.please be sure to use any email provider that can:>read mail>send mail>attach jaypegs to a mailThe voting process will look as follows:>receive your unique token link via email, one for each round of voting>cast your vote in two rounds of voting that will be held to determine our next game>njoy resultsSo, get your cosmetics in order, feed your cat and take a screenshot as described to send as a verification to:>mmodventure@proton.memmodventure@proton.me>mmodventure@proton.memmodventure@proton.me
>>2263244You mean that... _ I _ could be a rigger?
We brought a cat statue home.
>>2263244My favorite part of this is targeting people from /v/ who don't participate in /vm/. I ask them for a screenshot a few days after mmodventures moves on in the guise of checking their build. I have 5 extras for voting. And I have like 3 more screenshots from 2 different games left. Probably won't be able to get them in now, but I have enough to rig shit. I'm just saying this now because others are trying the same thing too.
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>>2263727>Nightblade the slime king>He loses 25% of his healthI know its a regenerating boss but that's not very impressive.
Certified 5-star champions fighting a boss.
>>2263710the more, the merrier
Guys I forgot sprite feeding was a thing till now...I've been passively leveling it.
>>2263846Bricked
>>2263905It's been at least 10 years since I got this thing last time. Give me a break.
Let's have some more group photos at 9:15 pm UTC, Saturday.>Time Zone Converter: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Spiral+Knights+-+Group+Photos&iso=20260228T2115&p1=1440
How would you fix nonbrandish swords WITHOUT making them brandishes?
>>2264538I'm not even sure what's wrong with nonbrandish swords honestly. I'm such a metaslave that my swords are a brandish, the snarbolax rapier, and the sealed sword. Might have to try one out to see what's wrong.
>>2264538I just don't think it's possible to make them good. Later enemies just damage you by moving at you and you're better off using those weapon slots for a brandish, lingering effect bombs, or the piercing-charge-attack guns.
>>2264570This is my unfortunate observation as well. A lot of swords have problem getting in position to hit anything at all, and then there's the huge swarms later levels love. They lack the clearing power or even a point in having individual killing power 1v1. Which they don't do as well either. There's a reason brandish meta became a thing. It's enemy design itself.
>>2264538A lot of them don't move you forward on their first swing, that'd be a start.
Why is Nightblade even part of the brandish line? It doesn't look like it should be.
Beta Valkyrie armor doesn't look bad, they should readd it.
>>2264538Give every weapon the charge attack of the brandish.
>>2264570>Later enemies just damage you by moving at youThis is fixable, with a lot of work potentially, but fixable>They lack the clearing power or even a point in having individual killing power 1v1And this seems like it'd be easy to change.
>>2264538Nerf brandishes
RNG blessed me on my first roll.
After so many battles and a lot of effort, this scene was so satisfying.
So hypothetically speaking, is the 2nd attack of barb/flourish's combo actually supposed to hit?
>>2265303Yeah, I don't think the targeting is THAT bad even if 90% of people shield cancel Flourishes.
>>2264922My finger hurts just from thinking of all that clicking.
im becoming crazy trying to farm that shitty elite orb, supply depot or not
Ahem: FUCK ROCKET PUPPIES, FUCK GREAVERS, FUCK GLOP DROPS, fuck mortafires (for being annoying), AND FUCK TOXOILS!
>>2265502>fuck greaversthis but unironically who the fuck greenlit this cancerthe mini/swarm mobs are obnoxious dogshit too
>>2265747w-what are they going to do on the bed
>>2265755Entire guild is going to <pomf> on it
Costume goes hard.
>>2265813>Bunch of flashy accessory slots with no overarching synergy/design
>Decide to join a random guy's party since he's close to depth 12>Kill a few mobs>We reach the elevator>He stops and asks me if I'm going to keep going to the next stratum>I answer yes>Move on>In the middle of the next level, he thanks me again for joining his party>Get to the next level>He starts writing how he's so glad I joined his party and how he's always solo when he's playing>Next level is a ??? so I stick with it>Its a lootbox level>When we're done with it he nervously asks if that was fun>Quietly go back to haven>Jump into someone else's slime king boss mission>The heebie jeebies get to me and I embarassingly die on the first level
>get sidetracked and miss yet another meetupack
>>2265820But all same color!
Do you think peg legs are a 3D modelling mistake that nobody bothered to fix? They don't seem to fit the armors that have them.
>>2265956You can actually see the Almirian Crusader armor has floating knee guards, so I'm pretty sure its a bug.
>>2266035
Thank you everyone, this was a lot of fun!
Since everyone has moved on, I guess I should find a discord for this game instead?
>>2268142I'm still playing, but yeah. Here's the biggest Spiral Knights discord https://discord.gg/0owCmcPUQe5cJLRj
>missed the final meeting and photofuck my life
> Spiral Knights left their home planet> Because they destroyed it with constant war> Need a power source strong enough to end that war> Find the weird clockwork planet instead> Already has inhabitants> First thought is HOW CAN WE TAKE THE POWER FROM THE CORE FOR OURSELVES?Are we the baddies?
>>2268303Yes.
>>2268303>>2268315>> Because they destroyed it with constant wartheres practically zero elaboration of the morai wars to see whether it was really their fault. But its somewhat implied that Morai are the ones that declared warIf you look at the tale of Almire and Vanaduke, its definitely a mirror of the tale of the Knights:As per the owlite tome text in that one rank mission>...This world has seen few greater tragedies than the fall of the great Kingdom of Almire. Once a vibrant, beautiful realm of lush forests and sweeping plains...>...neighboring kingdoms declared war... >...seeking the power needed to turn the tide, Lord Vanaduke of Almire fled into the mountains... >...returning as something unnatural......endless inferno......Almire destroyed......they can never leave, they can never escape the flames... Lost soul of Almire in 9-2>Lord Vanaduke brought the fire from the mountains to our kingdom. Everything burned. His enemies. Even his family. My family was lost too. I fled the battle as soon as I saw the wave of flames in the distance. I was able to reach my home just in time to see it burn. I don't even remember how it ended. I have no memory of my passing.As in, the Morai declared war on Isorans, isorans were being fucked up, they formed the spiral order which left in search of a power source, arrived at cradle, and presumably got fucked over by the swarm within the Core.This part about consuming their memories can also be related to what The Sleeper told you about the swarm via the Echo Stones (the things you get at the end of Shadow Lairs)>IT DEVOURED THE KNOWLEDGE OF TIME... MEMORIES OF THE DEAD... THE HEARTS OF KINGS AND THE SOULS OF THEIR PEOPLE... GOOD AND EVIL... IT CONSUMED.
>>2268434Okay, Lore Anon, if you're so cool then what is the core?
huge fucking shame I had to miss the sendoff night, but I hope all of you have enjoyed your time in Cradle. it just fills me with joy seeing that a few anons have had a good few weeks getting to see most of the game.
>>2268303>Are we the baddies?I mean, the Gremlins clearly turned their back to their fucking job of tending to the Core, the Swarm is spilling out and if nothing is down, will consume the whole planet, and possibly many more.
>>2268808well, its a mysterious power source without that much elaboration, containing the sleeper and the swarm and whatever tf elseThe sleeper says it (and cradle) was created to protect it but that part of the plot is frankly really lazy and unfinished>>2269121the swarm was certainly spilling out and fucking shit up before we got hereits honestly not known if the gremlins even do any direct maintenance to it anywaytheres even a common theory that the real intended plot behind tinkinzar (the gremlin king/leader who supposedly came up with the whole clockworks and has never been seen by any other than the crimson order) isnt even real and that shit was made up by the crimson order. specially given theres pretty much zero concept art of him
>CTR Med Kamarinis this anything
>>2269253>>2268434I suppose we'll never know what the swarm and sleeper were supposed to be.
>>2269747>CTR medpretty great bonus, specially as a new player. If you arent broke then theres little reason not to have CTR med or ASI med on almost anything>Kamarincomically bad weapon class, but maybe its going to get buffed one day, now that this game has actual devs
>>2270120I somehow doubt anything is going to get changed. That sounds like the kind of dream you have surrounded by loved ones in a safe home then wake up in a cardboard box behind the Pizza Hut.
>spend SIXTY EIGHT (68) Radiants >failsGreat, guess I'm not playing the fucking gameThey're NEVER going to fix this fucking abortion of a system either, even though having level 10 weapons is not even remotely optional
>>2271438>he doesnt always go for the 100%>he thinks having ctr med innately isnt optimalngmi
>>2271438>even though having level 10 weapons is not even remotely optionalIs it not? All my 5 stars are level 1 because it's too hard to get radiants.
>>2271451>i cant readguess im ngmi....
>>2271464No, CTR med from being at 10 is HUGE on top of the general increase in power from each level of heat
>>2271104they already did some small changes once they got back into the game a few months ago, like fixing the DA charge. Making Troikas not the most worthless weapon ever is not out of the question, specially considering they could just give it a damage increase and nothinge lse>>2271438i have a way for you guys to get radiants fast, just duplicate arenas. If you guys are fast at killing it farms really fast, and gets you like 200+ radiants per session if i recall correctly.
>>22714382x rolls is optimal for *5, but if youre that afraid of failing the more expensive rolls, why not just go 3x on the last couple ones?>>22714645 stars at level 1 deal frankly lame damage compared to level 10 4 stars
Whats cool about MMOdventure is seeing people stick around on the games chosen beyond the two weeks, or seeing what are essentially new generals created or revived again.
>>2271902Nothing cool about leaving your droppings behind
>>2271104>>2271867They buffed Catalyzer damage recently, not sure if it makes them good but there's absolutely nothing stopping them from buffing Troika damage overnight.If it were up to me though I'd change the stun infliction - minor chance on the first swing, moderate chance on the second swing, and good chance on the charge. Maybe a small damage top-up on top of that, but mostly just make it able to inflict stun from normal attacks since the two swing combo is a lot of commitment even if the second swing creates room with the knockback it has.
> There are only two shadow swords> One is a katan> The other curses you for politely asking the devs if you're allowed to defeat anythingI am in hell.
>>2274312Gran Faust doesn't curse you with normal attacks at least.
>>2274315> normal attacksNibba I wanna deal DAMAGE not send a form letter asking if my enemy would play dead next Tuesday.
>>2274312The Acheron is good enough :tm:Like what more do you need?That said, consider the Winter GraveYes, it's a gun, but it has a stupidly good charge attack that's both satisfying to use and does a truckload of damage (and freezes enemies so you have a bit of crowd control)Also you technically have the Obsidian Edge, so three (even if it's just an Acheron that deals poison)
>>2274366Isn't obsidian edge event only?
>>2274377Yeah you have to do the Apoc event for it but they rerun that consistently enough, you can just sit on a heat 10 Silent Nightblade until it reruns honestly since you need Acheron at like Heat 7-8 to get the same damage.
>>2274435obsidian edge also has a big damage nerf compared to acheron, i wouldnt ever recommend it even against jelly king cause you can two shot each of its phases with a maxed out acheron anyways
I think we're about due for a Tortodrone rerunI kinda wish they'd add a Tortodrone bomb and maybe a Tortodrone sword.Bomb would probably be placing down a large tortoshell that explodes and sends out heavy fragments that hit multiple times and do huge knockback, maybe a stun too. Tradeoff would maybe be a longish detonation timer as the shell takes time to build enough pressure to explode. For sword I'd probably make a troika-like hammer out of a tortodrone shell. Maybe the charge impact sends out a bunch of crystals like how the tortodrone guns work. Of course I'd also buff the tortodrone guns heavily - give them a tight, consistent charge pattern that's an asterisk in shape and remove the damage immunity so it does a ton of damage to anything stuck in it - maybe nerf the per tick a bit to make up for it being able to do far more damage over time.
Guys I have a brilliant plan to save on radiants to level gear.85% chance to forge can't fail a FIFTH time, right? I can save so many radiants!
>>2274312>>2274366acheron is a contender for strongest all-purpose weapon in the game, its damage is higher than other brandishes. In fact its the same as the Gran FaustAnd yes, the winter grave is EXTREMELY good. I think its better than Iron Slug just because of specialized damage. also grim repeater is strong too>>2275197nigga just do 100% on the final rolls unless you have lots of radiants to spareAlso dont even bother farming radiants normally if you have the option to cheat d28 arenas. Get 3 friends, get 3-4 alt accounts each, and dupe arenas in d28.
>>2265502I just realized I forgot one of the worst enemies; FUCK SOULS. Absolute cancer.
>>2276802The only time the antiguas are useful.
The danger room has blessed me
>>2278341Dreams and Nightmares level radiants from an arcade run, you love to see it.
>>2278341>solo'd depth 28 danger room>didn't even use the auto-reviveWell-deserved radiants.
>>2278343DaN only averages like 21 radiants per run iircI dont think its worth farming now that energy is cheap? i might be wrong/havent done the math but i think you get more by doing FSC very fast and turning the crowns into energy into radiants. Farming radiants like that is depressing though, once again: seconding the post telling people to dupe arenas, its not only a fuckton of radiants but its actually faster crown gain than FSC if the team is really good and fast at clearing
>>2278812It was a pretty easy danger room to be fair. It did totally try to troll me though. I had a Voltedge and Dark Briar Barrage and the first wave of the danger room was full of Quicksilvers. Luckily the next two only had Jelly Cubes.
>>2278812I hope you were rewarded, anon.
praying that tomorrow's gate's 6th stratum isn't absolute fucking ass like the last three.also, you can check gate maps and current rotations in this website if you didn't know already https://gatemap.knightlauncher.com/
I did Dauntless Delver a few days ago finally, although I do feel like I cheated by playing safe on Normal.Might do another Dauntless run on Elite.But it wasn't even that hard so I should've done it years ago.
Oh wow you guys still play? What do you do besides farm mats?Kinda want to play but being from Asia, I can barely play with anyone without it being absolute ass cancer.
>>2280179I still need so much gear so I just do arcade.
>>2279926i procrastinated on getting this achievement for years because i wanted it to be my last (so its highlighted in the steam library)I didnt have the achievement to hit someone with a snowball in pvpThe way i finally played pvp for that i ended up actually loving it a lot
Doesn't the game have an inherent design flaw?I don't think there is any 'fixing' most stuff. Once you get in to the final tiers, you need mass clear power. Mandatory. There's no getting good against a hyper stacked set of 20 enemies in the same tile, and you can only run around an arena with 80% spike space and 20% usable area so long till the different pace of mixed enemy types start cornering you. Meaning any weapon that cannot service this need is inherently unwanted. Try as hard as you want, you just fall behind the game's design.
Actually.As a bomber, what is my option for a backup sword? I know brandish spam is meta, but I'm spamming bombs. I'm only having the one sword on me. Everything else is bombs. All bombs, all the time. Sword for practical applications like not charging 10 years to finish off one guy or making some space for myself. The usual. I imagine I want a normal damage sword since I can't hot swap to a second or third sword in my inventory like the quickswapping chads. But which one? My take is the leviathan is technically already the best normal sword.
>>2281426You don't actually want normal damage for the most part.My pick would maybe be the Barbarous Thorn Blade - charge isn't all that worth using, you mostly use the first attack and shield cancel. Comes out really quick and is alright for making some space, and does pierce although I guess the DBB is one of the more meta bombs.Fang of Vog is a surprisingly usable elemental sword that you can get for free if you don't want to invest a lot in a sword although the swing speed is a bit slow, Warmaster is another good option if you've done the DLC (which rewards a shadow bomb that was so good it had to be HEAVILY nerfed but is still decent enough) If you want to cover shadow options Acheron is really the only shadow sword worth considering.Pure utility wise... maybe the Turbillion? Not sure it does a lot of damage but it's normal damage and it has a projectile on the swing to make it a sort of pseudo-gun for breaking things/hitting switches. Finally you can honestly use Brandishes without using charge attacks, it's just that the charges are so broken why wouldn't you?
>>2281426If you're going bomb, why not a sword that benefits from CTR? You don't have to listen to people that groan about meta.What if my favorite Pokemon are Landorus Therian and Ferrothorn?
this game is actually extremely fun
>>2281426brandish is unironically the best all purpose swinging and finishing sword. Its not just the charge attack that is overpowered, the actual basic attacks are the most reliableGo for Acheron, it does passable damage against things that resist shadow and outstanding damage against everything else, in practical purposes its better than normal swords outside of maybe zombies. Split damage is very strongIf you still want a normal sword, do not go for leviathan, that thing sucks. Go for a Turbillion at least, which still isnt very great but its probably the best normal damage sword. Or maybe a Dread Venom Striker?
How is your grind going?Looking forward to having 2 million crowns to buy something on auction one day, are we?
>>2285086>Looking forward to having 2 million crowns to buy something on auction one day, are we?i like to farm black kats with 4 accounts at the same time. The three alts dont need to be geared up, but its way faster if they have good gear, because then you dont need to invite your main to kill them during the duplicating trick.Like this you can kill 7 kats every time one spawns, your chances for a book get way better. Every book is like 1.2-2 million crowns?i dont remember exactly how much they are worth these days, but if luck isnt on your side, you can do a nolife session for two weeks and get pretty close to buying some super expensive items like a mixmaster
>>2285220> you can do a nolife session for two weeks and get pretty close to buying some super expensive items like a mixmasterI am the living embodiment of the fact rich people are rich cause they never spend their own money. You can do this. You can become Crown King. You'll just spend it all though. Cause even a normal 5 star item functionally costs you 75k crowns if you make it yourself. At this point, if I had never spent a cent, I could have probably bought something incredibly stupid.
>>2285736>Cause even a normal 5 star item functionally costs you 75k crowns if you make it yourself.Recipe costs:>1,000 crowns>4,000 crowns>10,000 crowns>25,000 crowns40,000 crowns for recipes-----------------------Orb costs:>3 simple - 50 energy>3 advanced - 200 energy>3 elite - 400 energy>3 eternal - 800 energy65,250 crowns for 1,450 energy for orb reqs in alchemy-------------------------Alchemy costs:>1,000 crowns>4,000 crowns>10,000 crowns>25,000 crowns40,000 crowns for crown reqs in alchemyIt's more like 145k at the minimum to get a 5 star weapon.
>>2286323got alch costs wrongAlchemy costs:>400 crowns>1,000 crowns>2,500 crowns>5,000 crowns8,900 crowns for crown reqs in alchemy114,150 total
>>2285736>>2286323You guys are forgetting making a dozen 2*s or rolling on Punch at 20k a piece to get a decent UV like ASI Med or CTR Med
>>2286323>>2286567How much is saved if all orbs are sourced from grind alone?
>>228657365,250 m8 so only 48,900 crowns if only paying for recipe and alchemy costs
>>2286586That fits more with my experience of doing this. Insane how much of the cost can be just orbs if you buy them on depot. At least eternals are actually surprisingly easy to get. It's the others you'll end up having to cough up for.
>>2286573>>2286588I think it's viable to grind Eternal orbs, I mean I have like 15 stockpiled from doing FSC for crowns and I doubt I'll ever craft enough 5*s that I outstrip my supply.The brutal one is the 400 energy for Elites, elite orbs are absolute ass to farm despite being expensive enough it'd be "worth it"Simple orbs aren't worth farming, better to buy at only 50 energy, Advanced orbs might be mildly worth farming but it's probably quicker/more reliable to just run FSC and buy the energy for them too. I don't know how much they make off people buying energy for gear progression but I wish they'd up the drop rate for Elite Orbs and Radiant Fire Crystals to make gearing more pleasant.
i swear to god is harder to find radiants than the eternal orbs themselves
>>2287113Lmao you don't know the half of it. Welcome to the endgame grind.
>>2250720imagine thinking you're smart for asking an llm all your problems, and thinking that dozens of anons didn't try that after trying to fix it themselves when the locale change didnt work and still come up shortactual pajeet behaviour>>2283795it's amazing but crafting orbs are cancer>>2286323>It's more like 145k at the minimum to get a 5 star weaponbut not a good weapon as >>2286567 says.I have a okay crafted three uv shield and a asi sword from years ago but i dont think their close to good or anything because i picked them based on looks as a kid
Clover Crusaders...I hope you saved up your crowns. There's clovers on the supply depot right now. For three more days.
>>2290680those prices are outrageous
>>2291092And yet you know what you must do.
>>2291615... Detach myself from material goods and cultivate good karma?
>>2290680do NOT waste your crowns/energy on those clovers, for some reason they're horribly overpriced. historically these have been always getting sold on AH for a few thousand crowns on average, some records of winning bids going as low as a few hundreds and as high as 15k crowns.check AH or ask some players if you can snatch or buy one from them at an appropiate price, but do the ones in depot are a fucking scam.
I don't know how kid me managed to put up with the horrible ping but this game is nigh unplayable in Asia.
Is it me, or do the arcana projectiles fly faster than the valiance's?
Love chargin'.Love bombs.Love chaos cloak.Simple as.
Found a Mewkat :3
>>2305755..what do they do?
