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Dynamic Duo Edition

>Season 11: Season of Divine Intervention
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244465/vanquish-the-lesser-evils-in-season-of-divine-intervention

>2.6.0 PTR patch notes:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24247516/the-2-6-0-ptr-what-you-need-to-know

>Patch Notes:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244466/diablo-iv-patch-notes

>Resources for builds:
https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4
https://maxroll.gg/d4
https://d4builds.gg
https://diablo4.gg/

>Miscellaneous (event countdown, leaderboards etc.):
https://helltides.com/

>Trade:
https://diablo.trade/

>Codex:
https://diablo4.cc/

Previously in the Sanctuary: >>2167491
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Didn't know NPCs can use the waypoints
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Between launch Slutborn and launch Paladin, how broken do you think Warlock is going to be on release?
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I'm gonna miss this nigga like you can't believe.
I hope he'll be kept around somewhere as a "hidden"/easter egg npc

>>2243512
kek
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sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
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>>2243519
idgi, does the demon have all these abilities or do they get imprinted on the player as well?
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>>2243522
all the abilities the pet has and if it has an aura the aura effects the players party/other pets
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I tried my best to like PoE 2 after everyone told me how much better this game is than diablo 4. But I bounced off hard. Can i still clear the season pass if I start a fresh character now? I played Diablo 4 like 2 years ago and already finished the main campaign and played a few characters to level 50 back in the day.
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>>2243852
D4 season passes are seasonal, if you did a season pass in say season 1 for example its gone forever once season 2 comes out and no you do not get any extra credit or refunds, ect
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>>2243852
Yea I know how jewy blizzard is. I am just asking how long it would take to clear the season pass that is going right now.
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>>2243852
>>2243862
You should be able to clear it I imagine. I suggest doing infernal hordes since they still, for some reason, yield the best results when grinding battle pass XP (unless I'm missing another method).
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no summons
2h sword darkness necro
KINO
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baal is so zesty and gross what a kino character
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>oldfag with much nostalgia for d2
>was looking at d2 resurrected with envy for years but won't bother with it as am I a linux gamer (kek)
>see the steam launch with a new character that look like ass but anyway

Is it really worth 40 bucks? Please convince me that it is just nostalgia speaking. On the other way, it's fucking d2 how wrong could I go?
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>>2244687
are you poor dude?
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>>2244687
idk about nostalgia since diablo 2 came out before I was born so I have only play D2R but the dlc adds a bunch of neat stuff so I say is worth it, D2R based version cost 40$ so you get the dlc basically for free.
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>>2244695
I said am a linux gamer, isn't it obvious?
Seriously not poor.. I just hate spending money on games I stop playing after 2 hours in.
>>2244698
Yeah that's what I was wondering, for a newcomer it's basically a "free dlc".
I played it when it came out, and stopped playing after the 1.10 release a long time ago. I have much to discover I guess.
I was also wondering if the player base was big enough on resurrected?
thanks anons
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>muh linux
okay i'm leaning yes, it's one of the goats for autists
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>>2243516
I actually liked having based Hadriel as an angelic NPC. Shame if he leaves for high heavens, we could use more light attuned characters and since Tyrone is off to bumfuck wherever he's the only one heavily connected to the good guys.
>spoiler
I hope so too bro.
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>no chinese lunar new year sale for d2r
why
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>>2244930
angels are not the good guys
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>>2245524
>angels are not the good guys
Really? Let's take a look at those "not the good" guys. The only ones that are actually bad guys are.
>Malthael
He outright believed that humanity shouldn't exist (See D3 RoS plot).
>Inarius
Who was a broken retard on a power trip thinking Sanctuary is his. Before the Sin War you could somewhat say he had a degree of care for humans but after Edyrem he dropped all the pretense and by the events of D4 mortals were just as useful to him as they were disposal.
And then you have
>Tyrone (pre and post de-angelization), Auriel, Itherael, Hadriel
They are actively on the good side of humanity and believe in them.
>Imperius
Yeah, he's a dick throughout our interactions with him in D3, Looks down on humans because of his pride, but even then he sends some of the angelic host to the battlefield of eternity to help us in Act V. Though, admittedly, the camp NPC - Mystic says Imperius' hatred for humanity could grow after Malthael is killed by a mortal so one could argue he is capable of taking the fight to us.

Not to mention angelic host at large that so far we have never had to fight nor did they show any particular animosity towards the player. Unlike demons and Lesser/Prime Evils. When it comes to demons you could make an argument that in Dark Road book the demon Kabraxis built a false church of light in Westmarch was performing all kinds of miracles thorugh his proxy chief-priest Vizjerei Cholik but I doubt you want to draw at straws that much.

So, all in all, yeah you can say (for now) angels are at the very least good guys and definitely not the bad guys. Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>2245753
are you retarded by chance?
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>>2245753
That's huge lore nvke. Based Anon bringing some receipts.
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I really enjoyed season 11 bros. Maxed out the battle pass, did the seasonal journey and it took me a tad longer than the last few seasons (with the same effort), so it's something. And Paladin is an amazing class albeit a memberberry one, but he actually fits the theme of fighting infernal forces. Sure Castle node scales the damage skyhigh but that is nowhere near slutborn's levels of broken mess at its release. But to the point, very weird to say it but I'm left very satisfied this time around.
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When is D4 coming to Switch 2 so I can play in bed?
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>>2245524
>t. lesser evil
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>one of diablo 2 resurrecteds selling points was you could go from classic graphics to remaster graphics at the push of a key
>new 25$ content pack comes out
>the option to use old graphics is removed from the game
>nowhere is this stated
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>>2246019
good.
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I got bored of d3 before the end of the first play through. Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance?

Does any content in d4 actually demand more than just spamming? I like hoard clearing just fine but I also want a game with risk. Kick my ass so I can learn to kick ass.
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>>2246535
make it to endgame and play hardcore retard
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>>2246570
and it's not easy as shit?
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>>2246573
It's still easy as shit.
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>>2246019
Meh, who cares. You don't buy a remaster to play a game with old graphics anyway. Personally, I'd only toggle old graphics sparingly to check the differences in some locations.
An it's not like you can't do it in base D2R, that's still an option.
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>>2246624
>Meh, who cares
I mean, clearly he does.
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>>2246632
we don't say i mean here
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>>2246019
Toggling old graphics is optional in the classic d2r.
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>>2246634
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>>2245866
>I really enjoyed season 11
Yeah it is solid. My guess is shadow dropping Pally helped immensely but even on its own this season has a lot going for it and it had me doing different activities to farm shit. I hope that those war plans are going to let us play in a similar way.
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>>2246637
boilin
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>>2246646
boilin
mashin
stickin in a stew
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>>2246634
I mean, you're a fag
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>>2246704
bubblin
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>>2246573
OFC it's easy. It's always been easy. If you want a hard play V Rising or something
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>>2246535
I could only finish D3 while playing with a friend and dicking around, its impossible alone, its so boring unless you have a specific form of autism.
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Might not be the right place to ask but I entered my boomer phase and purchased D2R. I am playing the very basic way. Login>enter world. I guess I am still online player, right? What happens if I want to play ladder? Do I need to create a new character? And is there even a reason to do so?
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>>2248487
>What happens if I want to play ladder? Do I need to create a new character?
Yes.
>And is there even a reason to do so?
If you're brand new, not really. The reason these resets happen in these types of games is so everyone can restart at the same time and race to the top. As a new player, that wouldn't mean much to you.
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>>2248488
I guess I can still play with a lot of people even if I am "normal", right? I used to play d2 almost 20 years ago and the real version had multiplayer and single player modes.

I am only thinking about it because there are several new Runewords that need ladder, I think. But I already found Warlock items and they are supposed to be ladder as well so I am uncertain. Also I guess a ladder character won't be able to use items I have found with my warlock, it is a completely different realm so to speak.
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>>2248492
If you want to play with randos, ladder is probably the way to go I guess, since most folks play that mode.
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>>2248500
Trading probably exist in both modes, right?
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>>2248514
yes trading exist in both modes, and when you create a character it ask you if you want to make him ladder or not.
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>>2248619
I wonder if it is worth it, I can probably enjoy the multiplayer life the way it is.
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>>2248363
Is D4 better?
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>>2248761
than d3? yes!
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>White
>Not fat
>Can spec ranged or melee

What are the choices? Rogue?
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>>2249043
as someone who only recently got into ARPGs. What is so bad about D3?
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>>2249208
it's fun. it's kind of like an arcade arpg with not much content
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>>2249208
D3 shit the bed in so many ways it almost became fun to hate. The visuals and writing felt overly derivative and modern. D2 fans said it was too easy, shallow, boring. People were PISSED due to that auction house thing.
At this point it seems to serve no purpose. Anything you want out of an ARPG you can get better from somewhere else.
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I still like playing Diablo III sometimes
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>>2249302
And how is D4 if I enjoy D2?
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>>2249913
Depends on what you like most about d2.
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>>2249948
My friends in here say 4 is a lot like 3 and modern wow. So I guess it is way too easy and gear is given to you on a silver platter.
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>>2249956
If you like the slower and more atmospheric nature of D2 you might end up hating D4
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When is the d2r ladder in EU? Today, tonight, tomorrow?
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>>2250218
It's in their news post Anon. They typically announce it there.
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I'm liking D4 so far but 2 things rather burn my ass about it:
1. Unlocking difficulties is gay, this would've been way more fun banging my head against the wall on Expert from level 1.
2. I still miss Ruthless mode from poe1. I now get why D4 isn't made for it in mind at all, but I still want it.
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>expert
kek
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>>2250218
>>2250222
Can I still get anni if I continue playing on non ladder softcore?
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>>2250238
Yeah I'm incredibly bad but Hard was still to fucking soft.
This is Blizzard and I am a shitter, history shows that they should cater to me.
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Verdict on D4 Paladin?
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I am so fucking confused. I am playing my paladin and recently i started having a lot more movement speed for some reason. I dont know where it is coming from.
I just unequipped all my gera to check. have 30% movement speed from somewhere but i cannot make sense of where it is coming from. I cheked my paragorn board. I checked my skills. I dont know what i am missing. Where is a flat 30% of movement speed coming from.
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How soon after LOH release before it gets a discount? I bought the base game on discount to try it out and ended up liking the endgame much more than expected. Unfortunately, the bundle, which I can't buy anymore, is cheaper than buying the expansion separately
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>>2252595
i'm going to guess that it's pic rel
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Crazy how 3 > 4.
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>>2252685
DLCs rarely get discount, the main game + DLC get discounted all the time tho.
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>>2253919
fuck
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>>2246535
>Does any content in d4 actually demand more than just spamming?
This entire genre is "Spamming: The Game"
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>>2254106
this doesn't mean that they don't, its just rare, I have only seen VoH discounted like twice since it came out a year ago.
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>>2254106
just look through isthereanydeal for historical trends:
>https://isthereanydeal.com/game/diablo-iv-vessel-of-hatred/history/
looks like it was out for a ~month prior to it getting discounted by $10 (for blackfriday deals it seems). I'm skeptical of the same scenario playing out for LoH, but who knows.
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I haven't played since the base game, and just boughted the new expac. Are the jaguar nigga and paladin fun?
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>>2254346
hell yea. paladin is op right now. expect the warlock to be the same when it drops. spiritborn broke the game when it came out, but is still good now.
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How long is the d2 ladder?
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>>2254155
Hey, how ya doin'?
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They still haven't fixed those placeholder thingy? I swear they were already here on release
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>>2254953
it will be fix on LoD, trust.
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is there any point to finish this? No more hidden titles?
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>>2246535
lmao, no. Most builds devolve into mashing multiple buttons in a row. It's actually kind of annoying that blizzard seems to hate one button builds.
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>>2256035
no and no.
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>>2256038
thats a shame. There should be something for the super grinding autists.
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>>2256049
idk why they remove the hidden title, its literally so easy to implement, just some words.
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>>2256052
It was something. Same with the free casual armor and emotes in the battle pass that they decided to stop making. Lazy fucks.
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Why are people praising sanctifying? This shit is ass. You click a button for some random crap. I have sanctified 10 unique pants and not a single one added an extra aspect. Why would anyone waste their time with this. Yeah, let me spend another day farming more unique that will likely brick.
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>>2256081
>let me spend another day farming
you answered your own question
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>>2256081

What kills the motivation for me is that there is nothing in the game that requires that level of min-maxing. The level of grind for perfect sanctification on every slot doesn't pay off whatsoever. I understand why they only want to keep it a seasonal mechanic.
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Is there something similar to D3's demon hunter multishot? if not, any fun build to speedrun the pit/helltides?
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I don't understand why it this game can't be hyped. I think it's blizzard's fault, they don't know how to hype diablo4... Look at WoW, their teams are hype experts, they flood every sloppa media (twitter and co) with engagement baits, protect and gift their streamers, do tons of interviews with tons of websites (US, EU, Asia), they do (kino cringe) inspirational video (we must protect Azeroth and defend the Sunwell, you the player are the most important character on Azeroth thank you so much)
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>>2256940
blizz has spent a LOT of money to advertise d4
but at the end of the day, the d4 story is crap, and nobody can get hyped about a one-armed retard muleing a soulstone for a bloody dog
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>>2256965
There isn't much to get hyped about. None of the characters have any personality. The demons have some semblance of something interesting but they all boil down to wanting to see people suffer. I am glad they added voice lines this season but all they say is they love pain, they love anger, they love to torment. Other than that, I personally don't care about any of the characters in the game. I can barely remember their names.
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>>2256940
There are many reasons for it. For one they thought they could replace core audience for the series with a "modern" one, see how the marketing for base D4 and later VoH went. It's a bit different now I suppose but still. There are a few more off the top of my head:
>wokefying story - putting muh strong women leaders (even the Pally quest has a chick as a "mentor" of sorts), making male characters weak irresponsible or little asian chick holding Mephisto's soulstone like a dildo without repercussions etc.,
I don't need to have a stellar writing but anyone blessed with a modicum of reason will see day and night difference in this weird female-centric writing
>main characters are as memorable as summer rain and if anyone sticks out it's because they're either obnoxious or irritating
For me the exception would be Lorath and Ormus but only by association with D3 and D2 respectively
>due to "towns" being simply hubs with different npcs all of them are forgettable which makes the world we're playing in empty and the stakes are depracated by the fact we feel no attachment to those stock NPCs \
Can you name any of the blacksmiths/alchemists/jewellers in any major town let alone a settlement?
>gameplay slowed down to a crawl and forgetting about all QoL features and functionalities from D3
Which they are backtracking on
>After the hole "sex abuse debacle" and massive layoffs at major blizz studios D4 was given to people who either had a vastly different vision from previous devs or cared little about the project
Again, maybe they are starting to turn some things around by embracing D3 aspects but for instance - it takes them eons to implement new solutions/QoL and it gets mildly exasperating when they hide behind "testing and making sure it has its place in the game". It's supposedly a AAA studio with nigh infinite amount of money when it comes to the flagship project and they need 21 months to introduce damn armory from D3. C'mon...

The list goes on.
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I am about to give up farming this stupid purified claw.
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>>2257270
First off, don't go over 20 of each type of corrupted essence. That's some weird arbitrary cap which hampers your purified drop rates. Best to keep them at ~15. In my case it worked like a charm when farming Duriel. Before that I dropped only one purified essence and that's because I was always above 20 essences.
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They need a button to instantly upgrade to max quality. We don't need to tap this shit 6 times.
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Why do paladins get to one shot everything while rogues have to slowly pick away at bosses.
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>>2254525
I really like this but wish it was a TPP over the shoulder so my castle could look cooler
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is diablo 4 game for faggots? they know what makes d2 click, they know people love poe, why not steal what works and just go from there? It's not that hard..
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>>2257944
you tell me
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>>2257952
I am only asking because my friends say its piss easy to level up, gear up and just eat shit in general and I am not seeing the satisfaction people get out of it
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>>2257974
you can level to 60 in a few hours. then it's your choice of whether you want to do a meta build or not. you do eventually get to a point 40-100 hours in where you crush all content and either stop until the next season OR autistically minmaxx
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>>2257974
Yeah you level up decently quick. But later on it's the same story as with path of gambling or any modern arpgs. You quickly start to blow stuff up, but you don't need to follow specific builds, instead you can make your own and competently clear the content.
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Should I bother grinding for the purified materials? Do you think that mount trophy and this event will only last the season?
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>>2258011
>Should I bother grinding for the purified materials?
Depends. Do you want to have something that'll be somewhat unique and hilarious for "bragging" rights? Which leads me to
>Do you think that mount trophy and this event will only last the season?
It'll still be feasible but more difficult because, I assume, going forward you won't have guaranteed lesser evils spawn every time you complete each activity. So overall it's a neat trophy that proves you put time and effort into grinding for it.
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>>2258011
you can do it bro. what are you missing?
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>>2256037
>"Why do devs actually want to make a game instead of glorified version of cookie clicker?"
Couldn't tell ya anon. Couldn't tell ya.
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>>2257843
>TPP
Why do zoomers hate isometric so much?
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>>2258023
>>2258033
I needed the purified claw of Andariel. I finally got it from a minor undercity run #100. I just started skipping everything and running to the end. I don't mind grindy things if they weren't so mind numbing like undercity.
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>>2258325
Play rain of arrows and come back to me if your keyboard and mouse still work. Some builds require you to mash the buttons as fast as you can. It would be smarter to have some kind of auto casting settings. I switched back to dance of knives because it was easier on the fingers.
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>>2258327
I'm a chadlennial thougheverbeit
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>>2258552
Good work bro. Grats.
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>got my brother to buy d2 with the new dlc so we can play it together
>he says its boring and is only playing it because of me
its so over...
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>>2259567
only boomers like diablo 2. Its a pretty dated game.
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>>2259573
both me and him are zoomers, I think is just that the start of d2 is boring as fuck, it took me 3 tries to get past act 1 and then the game starts getting good on act 2.
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So we might get Baal after Mephisto? After beating the original D4 campaign again I got pic related. It kinda hints at the order in which we could encounter the Primes after beating Meph.

>Terror Begets Hate and Hate begets Destruction, Destruction Begets Terror...
>Mephisto ( Hatred ) -> Baal (Destruction) -> Diablo (Terror)
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Spiritborn or Druid?
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>>2259681
spiritborn desu.
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anyone here bounced off of PoE 2? If yes what was the reason?
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>>2259567
You don't deserve your brother.
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>>2260058
Kek
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>>2260058
I actually prefer it to 1
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>>2260058
honestly I'm waiting for the full release to try it, I refuse to pay for early access.
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got my warlock in nightmare. idk how far i'll make it. d2 grind is 2 real 4 me in hell.
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>>2261260
every time I play D2 I stop in hell, I can't farm baal 20 million times in a row, idk how boomers did it back in the day.
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>>2261390
easy: boomers didn't do that back in the day. they played the game for the story and then moved on.
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how often does rise of necromancer go on sale for d3
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>>2259746
Spiritborn definitely feels better. Plus, it has fire which druid doesn't have.
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>>2260058
Yeah, it maybe could've been good, but early game has you interacting with the complex combat. You have to dodge, crowd control is powerful and there's room for special interactions between skills because you don't have the damage to blow mobs up instantly. Slowly as you progress you get more powerful assuming you're building correctly and eventually you're blowing up screens with mobs having little chance of fighting back.
As a loser that no-lifed D2/PoE1/D3/D2R/D4 I can say for an absolute fact that Path of Gambling is a side-grade at best, and a D2 Custom server at worst.
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>>2262785
what were your favourite ARPGs then?
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>>2262785
>Path of Gambling is a side-grade at best, and a D2 Custom server at worst.
one of better comparisons i've seen about poo1
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>>2260391
well he might not even play it much longer, we just got to act 2 and he says that the game is too easy and he may drop it.
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>>2260058
Waiting for 0.5 to drop and need something brainless to play without having to learn my combos in POE2 again
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>>2262814
>what were your favourite ARPGs then?
D2 and by extension D2R are the ones that I liked. They don't go over the top with their features and there's high replayability value to both of them without wearing you down. Also I don't much care about Warlock being broken in D2R, It's just so happens that this class reaches annihilation threshold sooner than others. Besides ARPGs are all about blowing stuff up either way, it's how you get there that matters and how the game treats both you and your time.
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guys, I have done it. I finally have enough runes for an Enigma. I have a 3socket Archon Plate already, but it only has 481 Defense. Should I try to buy a plate with 500+ defense for an Ist or so? The only issue is waiting out someone willing to supply one for that price. Otherwise, looking at the sales on traderie, anything Superior or 524+ Defense is at least 1 Jah and that's getting a bet expensive, though possibly reasonable.
Am I min-maxing too hard with this item?
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>>2266613
>Am I min-maxing too hard with this item?
yes, unless you are on hardcore the 481 one is fine.
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i'm going to come back for the next season of d4 but bros... it's feeling more like a chore than anything else
i'm so tired
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>>2267815
d2 is in a good position, i'd wait until xpac. on April
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>>2260058
Yeah. D4 may not be "true hardcore ARPG" and by God it has glaring issues but at least it doesn't pretend to be something that it isn't. With PoE2 though:
>defenses feel like shit
>no life nodes, but energy builds can get up to 10k easily
>90% of skills are useless
>90% of support gems are useless
>90% of ascendancies and its tools are dogshit
>stats don't feel good
>too many conditional passives
>nigger streamers breaking the game using esoteric combinations which causes mass nerfs to everything and leads to funneling of everyone into the same builds

Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. Par for the course when you have the gayest looking faggot on camera representing your company. Embrace the vision™!
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As a casual who doesn't do seasons, should I buy new DLC just for the Paladin?
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>>2272174
yes
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Why doesn't diablo have a /vg/ general but poe does?
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>haven't played d4 besides the open beta
>want to get it for paladin and start with the new season next week
>but they are reworking all the skill trees in the new expac
Now I kinda don't want to start until the expac drops because the skill tree should be better, and I don't want to do two seasons of the same class in a row, but if I play paladin before the expac it would be with the worse skill tree. I may have autism but this annoys me.
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didn't realize the new season is only a week away bros i'm hyped
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>>2273256
we did, it gets flooded by tribalfags and glowies running all over /vg/ and /v/ from various websites and affiliated agenda pushers.
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>>2273256
even those of us that play every season only do so for a few weeks to a month or so.
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>>2273263
why not play it with the old skill tree and then play it again after the xpac so you can appreciate the changes more
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18 minutes till stream starts DIABROS
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>>2249692
based gato
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>>2274023
Thanks. Will they accept questions from the audience I wonder?
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>>2274023
warlock looks fun, will be playing, don't know if I'll really play the new season next week tho? any big changes coming next week or only with the expansion?
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WARLOCK LOOKS AMAZING WHAT THE FUCK
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>>2274068
no it's a short filler season
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>>2274068
I might play it if only for some cosmetics. But it's there to pad out time between the ending season and the expansion one. Plus it's the shortest one yet.
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/ourtranny/ is on
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ew is that a tranny or just a really ugly, fat femoid?
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The hell is this otherwordly abomination?
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>>2274073
>>2274076
gotcha thanks
guess I'll check it out why not
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Time to test those HOTS Butcher skills once again.
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Kill streaks are gay this season might filter me
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>no more doors
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>>2274100
>>2274101
I think this is one of the demons that the warlock can summon, cool stuff blizzard!
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I haven't played D4 outside of the beta cus it sucked back then, this warlock looks fucking insanely awesome though. Have they made the other classes this cool too or is this a whole new level? The giant sword demon looks amazing.
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nice filler season desu
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Think I'll give D4 another shot, I'm going to be so lost it has been a long time since I played last. Should see how it is before things change with the expansion.
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>>2274199
Give it a go bro! It's worth a shot at least, but please refrain from posting that adrenaline-seeking-min-maxing-hooked-on-gambling junkie. The man's so sour he should just run poo content since this is more up his alley.
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>>2274206
i don't think that retard raxx has played d4 in 3 or 4 seasons. he's insufferable anyway i'm glad he's gone
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>>2274181
think i'll just wait for warlock desu
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what classes will be playable this season?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Ju1hFU6hM
This looks so fucking good WHAT THE FUCK? It's like four classes in one, there are so many cool abilities.
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>>2274181
>Doom collab on the shortest season of all
Good, but I also think any future collabs will have a difficult time outdoing Berserk collab.
t. Didn't even read/watch Berserk
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How do the campaigns work? Do you only pick one of the two (soon to be three with the new xpac) campaigns to do and that's it or what? I've never played before so I want to do the story but I'm assuming all three on one character would be too much?
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>>2274800
They lead into one another, or so I've experienced as I did the base game + VoH Expansion story a couple of months ago. Regardless, there's no issue doing all of the story content on one character
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>>2274800
you should do them all if you're new. if you play it now, you'll just be able to start from LOH if you want if you're already caught up.
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>>2274806
is VOH's story really as bad as people say?
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>>2274886
While the base D4 campaign can mostly stand on its own (it has a lot of DEI shit and whatever "current year" bullshit that could be crammed into it though) VoH feels like a cheap filler at best with an obvious writer's pet souring the experience and shitting on the lore. It doesn't help that final boss fight is a meph's dog not the dude himself. With VoH they clearly thought they could throw a steaming pile of shit onto players instead of their usual corporate run-of-the-mill shit.

Perhaps they will learn or they won't
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The warlock is a terrible addition.
>yet another demonic adjacent "hero"
The paladin was a step in the right direction. We need more christian heroes.
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>>2275207
>We need more christian heroes.
I was going to post that light "infused" or something that doesn't revolve around dark magic/occult shit would be a better way forward.

Warlock is definitely polished as far as class design goes but at the same time it goes against the lore of Diablo across the board. Demon binding and warping them as we please? Nah, it is so far fetched I question why this is a playable class on side of good to begin with. Such class is basically a walking invitation for the prime/lesser evils to corrupt him and make him their slave. If anything warlock feels like a turbocharged enemy we'd fight while battling our way through hell to mephisto.

Again, he looks great and appears to have equally cool gameplay but this is contradictory to how demons/hell work in that universe.
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https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244648/become-the-butcher-in-season-of-slaughter
yeah ok, see you guys on wednesday then
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>>2275753
For a filler season it ain't that bad, considering they are bringing some QoL stuff with it, such as doors removal. And as a sidenote I really dig doom skins on Barb and Paladin, even if it *is* paid content.
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don't care about doom didn't care about berserk which rules for my wallet
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So apparently they are adding torment 12 difficulty, and reddit is seething about it. I don't see how this is a bad thing at all though. Is it just dadgamer shitters crying about their skill issue or is this actually a bad change? The reason the dev gave for the change sounds solid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwBogPBtkD8&t=363s
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>>2277105
other than further splitting le open world players between more difficulties, it's a very good thing. you'll be able to do other activities for decent xp instead of just the pit
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>>2277105
ehhh it's what they did to D3, so what it boils down to in actuality is: play on low difficulties while leveling, then power up to the highest torment available and stay there. nobody plays on all the in-between torments on d3, and i expect they also won't on d4 with the new in-between torments. maybe the dad gamers, but that's it. i guess we'll find outttt, but that's how this usually goes. why play at a less efficient difficulty?
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Bros it's not fair. There are plenty of games that surely have smaller playerbase than diablo and yet we don't have a real general on /vg/. Some dumb fag is running a D2 general on /v/ though. Why don't we just have a diablo general that covers the franchise, like /poeg/ is for both poe games. No one goes on this retarded useless board.
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>>2278947
Someone made a general on /vg/ when this season launched. Paladin, hype, etc. You'd think that'd be enough. But in short order either someone mass reported the thread (maybe peeps from poe general or some other) and it died down pretty fast.

Besides, I know I'm not in the minority here, but for the time being /vm/ is a solid refuge until they release content that'll get people going beyond first two weeks. This season was, by and large, a very good one and I'd count it as a success considering there was longer retention (not to mention a streamer we got here as well at some point of S11) and there were actual discussions.
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>>2278962
>either someone mass reported the thread (maybe peeps from poe general or some other) and it died down pretty fast
...or someone really doesn't like /d4g/ out there
I forgot to add that last bit
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>>2278962
>>2278967
when the xpac launches we should just make a /diablo/ general on /vg/.
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>>2278990
don't bother, jannies will delete it. d4g was officially kicked off there and told not to come back
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>>2278990
Leave it bro, once we get more people to get this thread rolling then we might consider it.
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>>2279008
>jannies will delete it
why the fuck would that happen. There's no rule saying no diablo allowed.
>>2279011
no one goes to /vm/. These dogshit fake v boards that gookmoot shat out are pointless. A thread on /vg/ would automatically have more people.
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>>2279026
>why the fuck would that happen
precedence nigger
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>>2279041
fuck the jannies. Keep making threads until they kneel, you pussy.
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>>2278962
>streamer
sword bro? that retard streamed to like 2 people a day
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>>2279008
>d4g was officially kicked off there and told not to come back
this never happened
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>>2279208
go ahead and make a d4g there and see what happens
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>>2279236
i've seen what happens. it falls to page 10 or whatever and gets pruned since nobody posts in it for days at a time
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>>2279202
I never said he was some bigshot celebrity with a huge following. I did question some the things done in the game by him but that's a different topic.
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>>2278990
>>2279008
>>2279026
>>2279041
>>2279056
So this happened when someone tried to make a /vg/ thread when diablo 2 got the warlock. My tinfoil hat theory is that /vg/ doesn't want new generals unless they are going to have the numbers to stick around and a diablo general from the warlock announcement would not and did not gain those numbers for a /vg/ general to stick around, it was and is obvious. An expansion drop id argue would be different but who the fuck knows. /vg/ wants threads that will continue on and on past bump limits and these Diablo threads just don't get those numbers thus they are in /vm/, it is what it is and id assume the /vg/ jannie knows what will and what won't stick around at a glance, at least I would if I was a jannie.
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>new season less then 24hrs
>last post was four hours ago
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>>2280995
ackshually...
but yeah, it's a filler season. nobody is all that enthusiastic
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>>2274206
>>2274223
Maybe he frequents this thread or maybe he just got his shit pushed in someplace, but that last video of kinda feels like some of that got to him. Or maybe I'm reading that wrong but he gives off such vibe.
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>>2281033
anyone and everyone has a right to fucking hate and be pissed at D4, we all wanted a real contender with PoE a Diablo that feels special like D1 & D2 and instead we got some e-sports marketplace slop (this is org what it was trying to be during S1 & S2 before they finally realized they can't make this into an e-sport and changed directions)
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what are we rolling on wednesday bros
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was really looking forward to new season but the company I work at just lost a main client today so i'm just really worried about my job stability right now
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>>2281551
>check builds for the upcoming season
>yep pally is still going strong
I think I'll play him again. Maybe Barb.
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>>2281837
One final ride for the minion necro before pet warlock (if its like it is in D2 in the sense you get one giga pet to make up for all the other pets)
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>>2282012
same with paladin. was thinking about slutborn but evade is so fucking boring after a while.
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>>2282012
Going back to my beloved Barbie, but it's an absolute shame that DB build is completely dead.
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>>2281074
>anyone and everyone has a right to fucking hate and be pissed at D4, we all wanted a real contender with PoE a Diablo that feels special like D1 & D2
Yeah, as they should. They were going for some weird slow grind when D4 launched. It was mega jarring. My point was that Raxx truly expects the game to be a gambling slot machine that gives him "that dopamine hit". Because that's how poe conditioned him, whether he realizes it or not. And he expressed that particular sentiment on multiple occasions when he discussed potential changes to D4. Problem is, he has the time to grind, most don't. Personally I'd like to have grind in D4 but not poe type slave-caves where you grind everything ad nauseum.

The Lesser evils trophy may be a good example of that compromise - it is rng but you could've done it in a reasonable amount of time without resorting to some esoteric methods (that essence cap was a bit of a crutch I'll admit though). It took some time but it was rewarding. But it's my perspective so don't take my word as some holy scripture.

>that pic related
It was bullshit but blizz is known for trying to force shitty sports league onto their games and they go pikachuface once it blows back in their faces. Same stuff happened with HoTS albeit that took longer to deteriorate and fall off the cliff. Good riddance to corporate mandated ESLs.
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What are you actually meant to spend essence on? Feels like all my spenders are kinda shit vs. more corpse explosion or decompose, surely I'm missing something.
t. just got the game
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>>2283265
idk just follow a guide i guess. everything is going to change in a month with the expansion launch, so it's not really worth it to learn all the ins and the outs of things as they exist now. and if you JUST started a seasonal character today, then lel cause new season starts in 12 hours, and that character will be in eternal realm
also take a look at that S tier builds chart a few posts up: exclude the paladin, cause that's just gonna be broken anyway. how many of those other class builds use core skills (i.e. the resource spender) anyway?
>evade is lol evade
>heartseeker is basic skill
>crackling energy is doing the damage, and the 2 slotted core skills don't even need to be cast
>earthquake damage is not a core skill
>lunging strike is basic skill (but you can argue that a core skill is used here if you want), and also whirlwind is going to primarily be doing earthquake damage, but again you can argue there's a case for a core skill being used here too
pulverize and HotA are really the only TWO builds in the S-tier that are constantly and consistently using core skills. so yeah i guess we wait and see what the skill tree rework (and probably accompanying gear changes too) do to that entire skill tree node.
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>>2283406
hold up i forgot the crushing hand build, that makes the total THREE out of the nine non-paladin builds.
and fine let's look at the paladin too, now that i'm thinking about it. 3 out of the 7 builds use core skill for damage.
so basically out of all the classes and all of the core skills in d4, a grand total of SIX core skills are worthy enough to get a build into S-tier ranking
lol lmao even
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>>2283406
Huh, that's kinda odd to hear about core skills. I don't hate how things play right now but I won't complain if that gets changed.
>and if you JUST started a seasonal character today, then lel cause new season starts in 12 hours
True but I'm just going for story completion in my first run more than anything. Seems like you need to do that to unlock everything else anyways.
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soon bros...
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>>2283596
2 more hours if I'm not mistaken
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Very soon Brothers
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>>2283072
Diablo 2 is what made that dopamine hit, I have 1k hours in PoE & 150hrs in PoE2 and ive had more dopamine hits playing Diablo 2 then those games, Diablo 4 gives none of that, MAYBE the first time? But in Diablo 2 I can get Tals armor over and over a Tals ammy over and over a cham rune, ber rune, a good rolled CTA and get that hit. The one time I remember getting that hit in Diablo 4 was when we could make off-meta builds before the stat squish came with the expansion bricking 90% of all existing uniques which are still bricked to this day. Diablo 4 and just naming that problem is bringing up the 1000 other problems in my head wrong with this shit game so im going to stop. I love Diablo 4 and want it to be good but Blizzard only gives a FUCK about store prices and the game is nowhere near good enough to have that be a good profit so ive said this before and ill say it again, unless the expansion brings back A LOT of people for more then the launch season, this games going into maintenance mode before 2027.
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>>2283542
yeah, i mean, i'm basically affirming what you naturally picked up on even being completely new to this game: core skills suck (currently), and you're better off stacking other ways of doing damage and completely skipping a core skill/resource spender in most cases.
anyways, have fun with the campaign mode!
if you want to join a clan, search for <FREN>
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>>2283926
>when we could make off-meta builds before the stat squish
THIS 1000%. There was a season or two where you could make viable builds from almost anything --it was so freeing, creative, and actually fun. And now with the addition of all the extra torments in expansion, I just know it'll go the way of D3 with build variety as well, pigeonholing you into the one build/class that will get you anywhere lategame. But I guess we'll find out.
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>I fell for yet another blizzard launch
When will I learn.........
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10 MINUTES TO BE QUEUED FOR A GAME???? WHAT IS HAPPENING IN MY DILDO 4
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>>2284003
man this piece of shit won't let me login at all, guess I won't be butchering today
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>>2283978
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Just black screen.... ffs can they do anything right?
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Don't worry! Be patient ;^)
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>>2284021
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>>2284040
kek
also could you please wake me up when the game works
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>>2284035
Goddamit, every fucking time. One would think they'd learn after all this time to have the seasonal launch ready on their backend.
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servers still shitting themselves
so nice online only :)
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>wake up late
>oh shit the season started
based blizz not making me late
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>play genshin for five years for free
>millions of people log in at the same time for a new (free) expansion and it just works
>servers have literally never lagged, crashed, or gone down
>with 1,000x the playerbase of any blizzslop game
>pay 70 dollars to play diablo on a skip season
>game doesn't work at all
You have been brainwashed to hate gacha games while handing over fistfuls of cash to not be able to login to westoid games
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the streamers have been able to play this whole time
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>>2284136
>whitelisting
tale as old as bli$$ itself. such a bullshit... why is no one calling them out on it boggles the mind.
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Huh, logged in Bros. Gotta be my lucky day
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>>2284144
go on without us anon.. become The Butcher..
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i dont see the doom stuff... when's it supposed to start?
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>>2284148
yeah i don't see it either. thought it was supposed to start at season launch, but who knows.
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>>2284148
It's in the reliquary, second tab.
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that sunbringer armor is cool...
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>tfw gea kul is the hub town
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>>2284208
Why can't I unlock it? Anyone else has this problem? I click the "Unlock Reliquary" button but it does jack shit.
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>>2284224
Yeah it's one of the coolest and best looking ones in the entire game. And it also gives off 40k vibes thanks to those purity seals in the pauldrons.
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>be datmodz
>ding 60 now paragon 6
>get a mythic prankster sigil
rmyt
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is there any way to buy the standard edition without the warlock DLC?
If so, will I only be unable to play the new class or am I going to miss out on real gameplay features?
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>play the paladin class for free to 25
>click the notification about it
>PREPURCHASE THE EXPANSION MEGA ULTRA DELUXE EDITION FOR $120
>doesn't let me try the class
not falling for this scam again
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>>2284519
kek
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>Open Battlenet
>See this
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>>2284766
i'm a fairly left leaning person but these trannies and faggots make it hard
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>>2284766
>its widely known that blizzard is full of troon dei hires
>world of warcrafts recent expansion just released
>whole story is a Disney story for kids
>new trading post items are wooden toy weapons for kids
>new items in the shop are Disney themed for kids
>all relevant characters in the new expansion story are strong powerful confident women
>all other characters are dumb, weak, incompetent men
Welcome to 2026 Blizzard, the Diablo story has been butchered but be glad its not at the level of World of Warcraft. Nice Doom skins by the way, this is what World of Warcraft got.
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>>2284343
The Warlock in Diablo 4 is apart of the expansion
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>>2284343
>>2284791
my bad, I was asking about D2 resurrected.
any idea?
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>>2284766
>>2284784
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>>2284833
you'll miss out on the new quality of life stash tab shit desu but otherwise will be fine.
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>>2284766
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yeah ok, pretty kek being a butcher.
that pvp event is so dumb tho... the most fun you can have with it is getting the butcher stone and running circles all over the pvp zone cause what else is there to do except wait out the timer.
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>>2284936
yeah i just did it for the first time. i don't get the point. if there were other players it would be cool but it was empty on t1
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How do I start the seasonal quest to enable the killstreaks??
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i doubt i'll play this one too long due to how silly it is, but i'm having fun
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not sure what to spec into today since auradin is supposedly dead now, but my hands hurrrrrrt
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>>2285235
>auradin is supposedly dead now
Is it? I know Pally got hit with Castle node nerf, but I thought it's pretty strong in comparison. Thorn shield or Hammerdin are the way for me though. Probably the latter.
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>>2285240
apparently the wolf rune not working REALLY affects the auradin damage. i haven't tried it myself yet to verify that, but i'd hate to spend time to put together something that's DOA
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>>2285250
Damn, I didn't know that. I actually thought about going for auradin later on but now that you mentioned it I might stick to that hammerdin build. I wouldn't want to waste my time either, tbqh.
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Did they hotfix the doom event yet? It hasn't tracked since yesterday.
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>>2285506
idk, but i just got this random "doom chest" at T1 grigoire and it dropped this sword for me...
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looks like all of the bosses have a doom chest that you can open after you open their hoard. i don't think i've gotten any of the doom currency for the reliquary yet tho
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Is Paladin fun enough to rationalize pre-ordering the expansion?
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>>2285536
Yeah, he's a fun class.
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Bros, hammerdin or thorns shield?
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>>2285512
>>2285516
The chests are spawning but they didn't click SPAWN DOOM GLOBES button on their end apparently.
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>>2285235
the new version is called "wing strike" and is basically the same fucken thing
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>>2285607
kek
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>>2285607
they did! i was able to claim a doom reliquary thing! idk where they're dropping, but it is enabled now
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only 1 (one) doombux have dropped for me so far lol
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>>2284766
I guess I'm lucky not having been presented with that abomination, instead I'm getting pic related
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>>2285693
this dude is based and is most likely the reason why many of the things in the game actually work. He streams number crunching shit real time to make sure its all working as intended and doesn't hesitate to show his disappointment at blizzard being slow to fix shit.
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>>2285693
he's OUR based they/them
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>>2285545
If you played previous season with pally like me, and if you went with hammerdin like me, then I recommend you thorns captain america shield build bro (brought to you by our resident diabloomer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns3y6LFmYcE
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>>2285621
chinaman streamer has convinced me to try his aura build. i'm going to go for it as soon as i get a pair of dawnfire gloves
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does anyone know if the purple cache has been fixed yet to actually drop the spark when you open it? i've been hoarding my cache until it's been verified...
also: imprinting aspects on boots and rings seems to be bugged. it will only put the lowest value of the aspect on, even if you have a higher aspect in your codex.
blizz really dropping the ball with some important things here...
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>>2286133
from the final season journey board cache? mine dropped a spark
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i need a bunch of sapphire dust or whatever to level glyphs from 45 to 46 how fucking gay
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got absolutely humbled by bartuc in t4 kek oh no no no no what a waste of 15 minutes
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Is trade chat broken?
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>Playing the boring campaign again just to get a feel for the Paladin
>Reached the asian girl's mother boss fight
>Instantly leveled up from 10 to 25
>Game kicked me out to the menu and refuses to let me in
What is this jewish nonsense?
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the fuck build is that, dude was skating all over the place just making that animation while shit fell over
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>>2286884
it looks like m1py's zeal paladin build..?
https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/builds/zeal-paladin-m1py
in other news, the mekuna auradin build is pretty fun. it plays a lot differently than last season, but that's ok. i think it'll be fine for finishing out the season journey, even if it isn't going to be great at high level pits
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>>2286551
it has been broken since like s2
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>every aspect you imprint on gear always imprints the lowest version even if you have higher version
welp thats the season, cannot believe they let a bug through that basically keeps everyones characters bricked and its not fixed yet
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>>2286786
same what the fuck?
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>>2286786
Can you click S sto skip campaign and keep playing?
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>>2286884
That's Zeal, using arbiter form and the unique ring that makes you cast your equipped core skill when you evade.
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>>2287094
It seems to only be on non-ancestral bloodied gear. Ancestral versions will work normally.
Still, they're fucking retarded and it baffles me how they manage this every season.
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it'd be nice if this objective wasn't bugged...
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>>2287094
>>2287630
this season is so fucking buggy, even more so than usual.
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>>2287821
looks like it's well and truly a filler season. I wish that meant they are all-hands-on-deck for the expansion and we're getting a very solid launch next month. Let's face it though, if they can't be arsed to release at least a competently prepared in-between content then what is there to look for. And those kind of bugs
>>2286133
>>2287094
>>2287630
shouldn't even be a thing.

I'm not doomposting, I'd just want them to do their due dilligience.
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This free trial is trash. Makes you download 80 gigs and you can't play more than 30 minutes cause it kicks you out after you hit level 25. You just pissed me off instead of making me want to buy your game.
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>>2286786
>>2287211
>>2287220
they're doing the "free trial" for him and got trolled by blizz since the trial ends at level 25 KEK
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>>2287630
ok, NOT bugged.. i figured it out, guys. it has to be:
>bloodied
>ancestral
AND
>unique
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>>2288156
That's exactly what it says...
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if any of you have a spare Griswold's Opus sword, even if it sucks, i would be grateful for it
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I really enjoyed Paladin in D3 and haven't touched D4 since Season 1, but heard great things about modern Paladin in it. Is it actually as fun as people claim it to be? Is it worth $40 now or better to wait til after next month for a Steam discount? They won't let me get a free trial character on Steam for some reason, so my dreams of hyping myself up and trying to look cool in the process aren't happening.

Also, what's this about DOOM collab? Do I have to spend money, or would I be able to grind the looks?

I tried getting into PoE1 & 2 but constantly having to have build guides up to make sure I don't deviate and make mistakes just pulls me out of the game to be honest, and Last Epoch has went full AI and bad decisions, so the only thing besides the D2 remaster on the old checklist is giving D4 a new chance.
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>>2288313
>paladin
yes it's based. you'll also get the warlock when the expansion drops
>doom, spend money or grind looks
both but if you want the actual skins you have to pay

diablo 4 is fun. for 1-4 weeks per season. obviously more if you're trying to grind paragon or whatever. hopefully there's more to do per season when the expansion drops
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>>2288348
Nice to hear, anon. I'm torn on where to spend my money at the moment since I could toss $40 for D2 on Steam to play it on my deck as I'm assuming it has controller support, or else I could drop $40+ for the new D4 expansion, but it sounds like either way I'll have my money's worth as long as I'm not expecting an MMO-tier experience that I can keep coming back for near endless content.

Did they ever make clans and group stuff worth it by this point, or is it still better to just solo and tag stuff in the overworld during events when other players show up?
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>>2288356
you can just pirate diablo 2R: infernal edition and buy the d4 expansion
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>>2288358
Can't argue with that kind of logic.

One last thing before I start swinging my credit card like a legendary, but I heard there's "Paladin Reliquaries" or something to that effect like shields and stuff they just added in. Are they free to farm, or more money to toss at the screen? I think I seen it advertised on the Steam client with the free Paladin trial from the 11th to the 18th but since I haven't played since the game launched, I really don't know what those are.
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>>2288356
>Did they ever make clans and group stuff worth it by this point
no :(

but we have a nice clan here. usually we run bosses after a few days when people have mats or help with gear/power leveling.
>>2288363
not sure really about a paladin reliquary. they call the season pass reliquaries though. you can choose to pay $10 or not to unlock more cosmetics but there is a small free one. paladin already has kino gear in the base game.
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finally blasting in t4
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I made it to Brazil in Vessel of Hatred.
The story in this going to be real anus, isn't it?
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>>2288450
Get ready to be blown away how a woman is stronger than the corruptive power of a soulstone holding the lord of hatred himself.
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>>2288539
I'm still blown away that my character decided to have a relaxing vietnam flashback right in front of mr churchbad evilpope.
And I haven't fully recovered from Donan dying to a fucking zombie movie trope of "le walks up to dead body(pillar)... but it's NOT DEAD."
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best doomcurrency farming strat?
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>>2288450
They thought Leah turning into Diablo was bad, so they thought they would do the opposite. I've yet to see a single person not hate the gypsy girl and make fun of the story in the expansion. Even redditors want her dead.
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I have been lucky enough to have gotten a treasure breach sigil and a tribute of ascendence.
The treasure breach was great, lots of goblins, lots of obducite from a green? goblin
Jack shit from the tribute of ascendence.
Also made a mythic cache and got a two star shroud lol
>>2288580
i'm getting plenty from doing helltides/bosses/hordes
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is this all you do in the game? open world events that last 1 minute spawn every 30 minutes? and one dungeon every 30 minutes? or is the free trial locked out of a bunch of stuff.
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>>2289181
the free trial is locked out of everything, I wouldn't even call it a trial more like a peek, a sneak peek.
a micro peek if you will.
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>>2289181
once you've played through the story and done side quests (if that floats your boat) there is a bunch of stuff

Overworld
-helltides
-world bosses
-pvp

Underworld
-nightmare dungs
-pit
-lair bosses
-hoards
-tower
-undercity
-citadel
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>craft two mythic caches
>both give me melted heart\
>mfw
the game is toying with me....
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>>2289521
Time to roll barb
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>>2289523
I think I just might once I'm done with the season on Pally. If only to get other doom (TM) transmogs.
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>killstreak counter doesn't end when you go through a portal
>instead it starts back as you get to the next level so you can maintain the number of kills
Actually neat they included this.
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>>2289700
it's really cool and appreciated by someone with trash internet
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>dude goes over all the bugs currently going on
>basically everything is bugged
fucking kek I knew it was bad but goddamn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJBTSR0T-zI
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I ragequit this season because my acendance undercity run had NO TIME BONUS enemies in the whole dungeon and I failed it. What the actual fuck?
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>>2289776
lol
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>>2290375
i haven't failed one yet, BUT, the time bonuses are few and far between. i'm reluctant to run my mythic one right now. might have to search for a rota when I do it.
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>>2289830
Filler season, go figure. It is unforgivable though they haven't even playtested S12, because they obviously didn't. Btw, how come in the year of our Lord 2026 content is released in such a terrible state?
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>>2290410
because most of the money Blizzard gets from Diablo is the cosmetics store and pre-order deluxe editions
they have no incentive to improve the game
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>>2290416
That's true in large part. But the general trend for modern games is something along the line:
>make patch/content
>disregard various checks
>stuff goes live
>free QA from players
>sometime afterwards release a few hotfixes (instead of a complete one) that alleviate the problems
Blizz/D4 team are one of the biggest offenders in that matter but there are so many devs that follow the same pattern it's just depressing.
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>>2290410
>>2290416
>fire in house test-team for all games
>announce the players will now get access to all major content updates and expansions for a month to play on public test realms
>the players do the testing for them for free
The ONE time we got to see a Blizzard employee play the game they work on it was a women during an interview and they gave her a bis geared barb on regular difficulty and she ran around auto-attacking the whole time while occasionally dying to regular fallen monsters.
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>hunt for xp buff in dungeons
>finally get it after 14 dungeons
>the game crashes after I load into an infernal horde
>my xp buff is gone after re-entering the game
xD
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>>2290720
>The ONE time we got to see a Blizzard employee play the game they work on it was a women during an interview and they gave her a bis geared barb on regular difficulty and she ran around auto-attacking the whole time while occasionally dying to regular fallen monsters.
I remember that shitshow, you're right. Yet another further proof women on average are worse then men, even at playing games. Or especially, I guess.
Also, link to the vid in question if you're immunized enough by now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-G3j00RQ1U
>the players do the testing for them for free
Man, I love paying to work! If only they had been fixing the encountered (and returning!) bugs at similarly fast pace. Imagine what a better world it would've been.
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>>2290746
>Comments are turned off
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>>2290720
>while occasionally dying to regular fallen
based she's just like me in 2000 as a retarded kid playing act 1 of diablo 2
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has anyone gotten the 9,000 killstreak yet (without the fixed glitch)?
i can only get to over 3,000 and then something stupid happens like i wander into the next area that has zero enemy spawns, or i accidentally backtrack into a cleared area...
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Private profiles are stupid and you're a retard if you have one.
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PSA: Quest Filet-o-flesh in Rank V of seasonal journey is bugged and doesn't actually reward you with promised 4 paragon points. Only the cache.

Awesome season Blizzard!
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>>2291059
>that one friend who keeps his profile private but then always looks at mine (public) and comments or asks questions about it
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>>2291063
Grim. At this rate the number of bugs will outgrow the player count for current season.
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>>2291068
Yep.
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>>2291089
Play the public test server next time chud, now buy the doom skin bundle
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>>2291068
I don't know why there are private profiles to begin with? Is there any confidential info in there?
I kinda get it in the Tower. Some exploiter doesn't want people to find out he uses game's loopholes to boost himself, but hey though luck if he does. Shit like that happens all the time so what? That should be on devs to prevent. Just get rid of this setting.
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>>2291123
>PST helps with fixing bugs
nta but my nigga, there are more issues now than there were in test server. absolutely wild
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prolly finna respec into one of the shield throw builds bros. i'm running a wing strike build and i feel like it should be hitting harder than it does.
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>>2291241
out of interest. how much are you hitting for?
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one of the worst free trials i have ever played
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Man torment 3 is too easy for my current build but torment 4 still fucks me. Not sure what I can improve on besides more paragon levels or praying for good ancestral affixes to drop.
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>>2291366
>Man torment 3 is too easy for my current build but torment 4 still fucks me.
Same for me. They probably overtuned something whether intentionally or by accident but the jump from T3 to T4 in being fucked over everything is very notticeable.
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I must be doing something wrong with gems. I'm 159 paragon and have barely any gems and zero highest-tier gems, nor enough fragments to craft them. How the hell do I get gems?
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Cleared pit 100 and it bricked my character. Every bloody NMD key, boss lair and horde compass is now 600% inflated with HP and damage. I had to turn back to t1 and fight Duriel for 5 minutes to kill him. Anything higher takes 20+ minutes. I can't do any seasonal content now.
Will have to level a completely new character and only do put until level 99.

AAA developer btw
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>>2291742
>he didn't watch the wudijo video warning us about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4da3nt0AJrQ
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>>2291742
>Cleared pit 100 and it bricked my character.
Yeah, you should've refrained from doing that little mouse. Best to keep up with the news:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4da3nt0AJrQ
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>>2291752
I don't watch e-celebs and don't expect the devs to be this retarded regarding scaling. Odds are this won't be fixed at all since it's a filler season. I just wasted my entire weekend on a character I can't play anymore.
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>>2291758
>I don't expect blizz devs to be this retarded
Rookie mistake. Best workaround would be to make a second character that can funnel keys to your main, and hope a hotfix comes.
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>>2291765
There won't be a hotfix until casuals start clearing pit 100 and being loud about it. I already saw someone get mass downvoted by bringing up this scaling issue on reddit when looked up online why the event keys were hp sponges in my game.
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>>2291783
>There won't be a hotfix until casuals start clearing pit 100 and being loud about it.
Speaking of casuals raving and raging about shit, I hope to God they start talking about random fuckery explosions and all sorts of effects fucking you up. ffs I haven't died this many times from some after-death effect in any other season. When I kill a random mob or one of the elites something will always one-shoot me even if I evade in an attosecond. Holy fuck, this is a nothing burger season and yet they fucked it so royally it boggles the mind.
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>beat the season at 216 paragon as a golem necro
>got two starless skies, andy, perdition, shako, doombringer, and tyrael's through drops or gambas
>never got Ahu or Igni runes to drop even ran all my rune tributes
>while doing the torment IV bloodied greater lair boss if you win and belial spawns and you die to him you fail the capstone even though belial isn't required
>did two IV varshas with two belials spawning failing to both belials failing the capstone
>did IV duriel once with no belial and finished the capstone
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on the left i got from the butcher vendor early on the first day, on the right is the first ancestral i've ever gotten, and its wing strike dmg blows, but if i masterwork it, will it do more damage than the one on the left? wingstrike build btw
>>2291800
mine was andarial, i thought it was set to t3 and somehow beat him.
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>>2291829
for some reason since posting this i've gotten 5 amulets that were all better.
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>>2291124
when the game launched, the pvp folks would keep their profile private so that nobody could see what they were dying to. i think the only reason people turn profiles private now is cause they got shit gear and don't want to advertise it when they join a pickup group to leech
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wish i could get more boss mats bros
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there was a butcher shrine in the world boss arena and then we all became the butcher and fought ashava. for some reason, ashava just dropped dead at half life but the game won't show completion of the world boss, so no whispers. another masterclass by blizzard
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For someone just starting D2R who likes playing hardcore mode in arpgs, what is a good class to start with since I have no gear yet? Something safe and sturdy, low gear entry.
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>>2292441
d2 is a different animal desu
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Seeing how devs are handling "Torment V" through those bloodsoaked and bloodied items I shudder to think what sort of calamity is going to be unleashed when they roll out actual new torment levels all the way through T12. Shit, even most decked out players can't even scratch those T5 bosses.

Again, they made a mistake making enemies' HP go up instead of making some gameplay mechanic that makes it challenging to fight higher tier of monsters and bosses.

Not so long ago we had a similar, but not that horrific, number inflation when they added capstones (on PTS). Difference being, everything was dialed back to reasonable levels before that went live.
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>>2291800
fuck me, sneaky belial in t4 bloodied is an annoying cunt, he seems to have that stupid shield varshan had in season 10. luckily the butcher is squishier and drops so many potions its easy to heal through everything. but still it takes too long.
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Is anyone here comfortably soloing t3/t4 bloodied hordes?
I can do the 4 t2 butchers per round, but on t3 I'm lucky if I get 2 per round.
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>>2292477
yeah i can do those, but i hate hordes, so i stopped after getting the related season objectives done. what build are you doing? you might just need more damage/increase your glyphs
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So when's the hotfix coming out? Surely the amount of game breaking issues would necessitate a quick deployment, right?
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>gamble some obols
>helmets are under "cap" tab
>go and gamble a bit of fresh meat
>helmets are properly called "helms"
Do they even have UI testing anymore?
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uhh, did someone manage to complete the last season journey challenge? I killed 2 t4 bloodied lair bosses but it didn't unlock for me. is this another bug?
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>>2292571
>>2291800
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9,000 killstreak achieved!
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>>2292697
Where did you do it?
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>>2292772
i tried many helltides in different areas, even nahantu, but the problem was that i'd wind down into a different area, get stuck in a dead end, etc, and run out of enemies to kill. this spot on the map is the key. do spires when you come across them, but then it's pretty open, so you can just jump to whichever group is closest to keep the killstreak going.
and don't forget to turn off crossplay so that you don't have other retards killing things on the map and leaving you with big empty spaces in their wake.
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>>2292626
I missed it. Thanks!
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thanks, pizzard
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>>2292542
Nice! I definitely need more damage. My glyphs are all 50+. I'm using the m1py midgame wingstrikes, low billions to highs of roughly 60bil. I may try this m1py auradin, or aurakuna style build. or just something totally different provided i find the gear.
what are you running?
>>2292571
yeah, I've done Zir, Beast, Varshan, Andariel, but the easiest for me on t4 bloodied is Harbinger.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1773689098688406.webm
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>>2292955
i'm doing the mekuna auradin build, and it's great. just slapped on the two mythics, and the damage gets it all done quickly.
i don't like the m1py aura build as much. i think the advance skill is a little superfluous, although the windbolt aspect on boots is nice. also i think the honed and canny glyphs are better than the ones m1py uses, but idk it's probably all a wash at the end of the day. paladin is still really strong!
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I'm staring at some maxroll builds in disbelief here. How the fuck are these people allegedly getting all of these stats at once? How the FUCK are people getting anywhere near 100% crit chance? You need to put crit chance on every gear piece that allows it and then you're missing out on other stats.
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>>2293062
100% crit chance isn't difficult to get once you get geared up...
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>>2293062
You need a decent build with masterworking. Shrouds Stat increase gives more crit chance, Heir to perdition and Starless Skies too
Gar Rune, Elixir, add one or two to gloves,pants,rings,amulet etc

My non perfect Crit strike chance
96.0%
-25% (heir perdition MW)
-25% (gar rune)
-17.7 (intelligence - 883 (i have a mw shroud with +360 stats)
-7.3 (ring)
-10 (gloves)
-6% (elixir)
-5% (base crit chance)
better affix on gloves and ring or an extrr affix on amulet/ring/pants/boots
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What's a fun class right now?
Give me any answer but necromancer.
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>>2293243
paladin...
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Only 2 objectives to go until 100% completion! We will soon see if there is a hidden title...
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>>2293243
Deus Vult Brother! Embrace the Light!
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>>2293256
There is none :(
t. completed seasonal journey today
You can kill 9000 mobs in one killstreak to get "Fresh Meat" title tho
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>>2293264
awww....
yeah i already got that secret title
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>>2292441
Hammerdin or skellynecro
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Well lads. The seasonal journey's finished, I maxed out Doom reliquary, got almost all transmogs short of a dagger (rare drop on a Pally). The only thing I might sit down and do is the secret title for killstreaks since the highest I got was around 7k.

Had it not been for the bugs I might've given it a solid 6/10 season considering it's there to pad out the time. Get your act together blizz, dammit.
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Here's my D4 review as a poe2 player, this was my first time playing D4.
What D4 does better than poe2:
>GEARING
D4 gearing is so much better and it's not close. Actually getting gear upgrades from killing monsters is literally the whole point of the genre yet somehow poe2 has fucked it up and gear is only good if you craft and luckshit the crafting rng, or trade for it. D4 drops you a good item to start with and lets you keep upgrading it with the deterministic crafting instead of bricking it like in poe2.
>end-game progression
The paragon board is fun and makes it feel like you're always progressing. poe2 leveling falls off a cliff once you hit end-game and you never touch the passive tree again for the most part.

What D4 does worse than poe2:
>the maps/world
D4 open world is basically pointless. It feels themepark-ish, all zones blur together and none of them have strong identity. poe2 zones are all very noticeably different and unique, and bring a different feel for each of them.
>the campaign story
The original d4 campaign is just boring and unrelatable. Why the fuck would I work with and side with mephisto instead of lilith the hot succubus? Woke writing, which just gets infinitely worse with vessel of hatred campaign, which is 100% girlboss SLOP written by california women.
>combat mechanics
D4 combat isn't bad, but poe2 is just so smooth with their perfect animations, and the amazing WASD integration that allows attacking while moving.

Overall I'm pretty happy with D4 and the warlock looks so much better than any class currently in D4 or poe2, so I'm excited for the xpac launch.
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>>2292977
noice, im missing heir but with godslayer in its place and a bunch of non mw gear im already hitting upwards of a 100bil, thanks for the rec, just did a bloodied horde t3 too!
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>>2293126
>>2293062
i feel like it also needs to be mentioned for the newfrens here that your sheet stats in town can be vastly different than your stats in actual combat. some skills or passives boost your crit chance when you do certain damage. some gear item stats don't show up in town. if you want to know how much you REALLY have, step into the dojo and pull up your stat sheet there --you'd be surprised.
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are bloodied infernal hordes the best way to grind exp this season?
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>>2293563
unfortunately, yes
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>finally get around to collecting an ancestral bloodied set for the paragon points
>equip them all and complete the challenge
>don't receive the paragon points
thanks blizzard
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>>2293253
>>2293260
I guess I should've paypigged out because I fell for the Rogue DoK build. But that one's more on me, I never fucking like "become a totem... with legs!" builds in arpgs and that's what this is with more steps.
I'll find something fun to do with this class even if it kills me.
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>>2293425
I've only played poe1 so that's interesting to read about gearing/progression. D4's is alright but I still think poe1 has the coolest economy in really any mp game I've played.
I also absolutely agree about the story. VoH really is dogshit, I'm praying someone other than Neyrelle is your primary companion for it.
The endgame combat loop of dungeons and helltides is better than what I remember in poe1 though. I especially did not like "ok you beat the campaign... so do it again!", which I'm not even sure if that's still in the game or not.
All I really want is for Blizzard to shamelessly trace Ruthless and paste it into this game.
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Diablo 4 male paladin's VA is black btw
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I haven't played since launch and was wondering if someone still has to grind all the Lilith statues for the permanent stat buffs or if they've gotten rid of that by this point. I have a level 25 barbarian from the launch of the game I was doing the main story on and I see now that I can make a new character that skips the campaign, so I was looking at maybe express laning to get into farming up the DOOM free drops before they're removed from the game, since I have no idea what to base the grinding on, just that I expect it to be a grind.
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>>2293955
Idk how it is vs launch but as a newfag all the lillith statue molestation has been account wide.
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>>2293959
Pretty sure in the past until Season 2 or so it was per character, so it's cool it's per account, but sucks that it's still a mechanic at all since it's just busy work and a checklist it seems since I'm sure it adds a ton of stats that I'd wanna have going forward.
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>>2293964
>>2293959
>>2293955
at game launch: "you have to unlock the statues with each and every character cause these buffs are too good!!"
at season 1: "if you've unlocked the lilith statues once, it will effect all of your new and existing characters in that realm" (i.e. softcore vs. hardcore). you only had to do it once and never again, cause everyone was up in arms about having to grind those dumb statues again.
at nahantu expansion: "collecting the lion statues will give you an ingame achievement, but no buffs to your character at all. people hate grinding for the statues"
as of last season: "all those lilith statues you collected are meaningless now, cause we're trying to get new people into the game and they would be behind if they had to do all that to catch up lol"
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>>2294111
I'm a bit confused, but this means that Lilith statues are worthless now for this current season and I can just make a new character and play without worrying about finding them across the map?
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>>2294147
correct. you get zero buffs from finding the lilith statues now.
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>>2294147
The skill points from the statues are tied to season tier progression now.
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might login
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>>2294216
sex
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>>2294300
me too!
>>2294216
corrr
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I'm a D2 noob. Idk what I'm doing and I'm stuck in act 3 normal. What do?
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awwww yeah
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anyone know the damage type of the red attacks from the add enemy during the pit boss fights? that shit does so much damage to me. It doesn't look quite like fire but it is red so I'm guessing it's either shadow or fire.
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>>2294882
so if you take too long to kill the pit boss, you get like a "shadow lilith" that starts attacking you. pretty sure that shadow lilith damage stacks too with each subsequent time you let it hit you. it's best to just evade/avoid the red things when they start appearing.
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>>2294778
act 3 is lame
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God damn paragon leveling is ROUGH once you hit like 240.
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>>2295298
The grind is real and I think they even stated somewhere that it's intentional.

I'm not sure if pic related correlates with current numbers but that's how the curve looked like in 2024.
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>>2295338
how the frick are people at 300 already?
did they really just group up and do 10hours of hordes each day for the last 5 days?
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>>2295509
you would be amazed how much time people have when they don't have a job
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>>2295509
>did they really just group up and do 10hours of hordes each day for the last 5 days?
That's pretty much the only thing those streamers do. Dunno about people who ain't in on the "content creation" train, but I always assume they're NEETs or they've got too much time on their hands.
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Did they still not address pit 100 completion bricking your character?
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>>2295853
yeah pretty sure they didn't do anything with that, nor are they fixing anything else in season. i guarantee it's all hands on deck to get ready for the expansion rollout
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>have bloodied amulet with rune drop rate % increase from killstreaks
>runes are dropping slightly more often
>decide to add two rings with same bloodied affix
>masterwork all three
>64% increase
>save build in wardrobe
>AuraRuneFarm
>helltide begins
>get killstreak up
>runes begin to drop
>killstreak over 5000
>for my efforts, a grand total of three blue runes
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>>2296169
oh n o no no no no
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bloodied lair bosses are buggy for me, sometimes they don't show up red on the map, but today took the cake, i selected an andariel lair, and their lair icon disappeared off my map! I had to tp somewhere else to fix it.
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i tried to run bloodied lair bosses for a seasonal gimmick via their keys but didn't get credit for it
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It is done.



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