It's been nice playing bank it again, love how much action there is in each match.

>>2247930
Yeah, I like it more than TDM since the map is more of a factor

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>>2247882
I was pretty sick the day the event started and lo and behold the only item I've missed out on so far is the 600 coin bounce pad. Ending it soon

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>>2247978
>spoiler
I wasn't expecting that

I want:
new map
map new
new map new

>>2248675
>what I want
new spec
>what I get
nothing

>>2248695
I keep thinking they're gonna add a new spec for light and its going to make me want to quit the game. I feel like the top choice is going to be a means for them to breach walls/barriers by phasing through them. I've been hearing chatter like that ever since med got demat. Yes they have breach charge and thermal bore, but they want something to complete bypass defense because they're annoying shits. Bring back 2 ammo glitch mines, bring cl-40 back to its former glory, all the high damage ways to one shot lights should stay in because they're playing a fragile class anyway. They have a bunch of evasive options, just don't get hit bro. Fuck lights, remove lights.

>>2248700
I want 160 DMG RPGs back

>>2248675
Give me all of the maps on all of the modes

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Best weapon of each class & Best gadget of each class?

i still hold fcar close to my heart, plus if you have lockbolt in your inventory, your cock is definitely gonna get milked

>>2248851
>Light
Weapon: V9S (and ARN/93R/M11 but it really depends on if you're using a roller or not)
Gadget: Tossup between H Infuser and Gateways
>Medium
Weapon: FAMAS. It hurts to be an AK lover.
Gadget: Defib/Jump Pad
>Heavy
Weapon: ShAK .50
Gadget: RPG/Dome

>>2248851
>lockbolt
cancer

>>2248986
>t. reddit heavy flameshitter

>>2248862
>V9S
nerfed
>ARN
only good for long range fights
>93R
nerfed
>M11
devpet weapon
>Gadget
vanishing bomb is the best light gadget
>Famas
nerfed
>Defib
nerfed
>Jump Pad
nerfed
>ShAK .50
SA1216 is still better
>RPG
nerfed
>Dome
nerfed
gold rank tier list

>>2248986
the entire light class is cancer

>>2249014
contrarian faggot that doesn't play the game detected

>>2249014
thanks for your input mr.gold rank

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>>2249067
>pic related

>>2248700
It's easier to aim train than to type essays online about how your awful aim needs a crutch lol

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>>2249611
the prior season was the best season, mainly cause you liggies didnt get shit

I'd kinda like more cosmetics for the face that aren't just bandanas and glasses. Some of the newer faces they added are actually alright and are better for actually having as part of an outfit instead of fully covering up.

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>>2248700
>Fuck lights
sure!

>Embark_rob sent a female streamer a buttplug and jerked off to her in VC and even told her
what

>>2249687
>he doesn't play all three classes
Bot

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>>2250061
Would do unspeakable things to light booty ong

Dogshit mediums keep defibbing me in the middle of like 4 enemies in point break just for me to instantly die again.
Holy fuck I'm so tired of it.

the sa1216 might be my favorite gun in any FPS ever

god damn this game is fun

>>2253441
nuh uh

I really hope the reintroduction of Bank It with custom tokens means that Easter will have an egg hunt

Fuck winch, remove it from the game or make it that it can no longer winch cashout stations, having to fight in the open all the time is fucking cancer, can't even use demat to flush building campers because it only has 2 charges now hahahahaha
fuck heavy mains

>>2255132
lol

I swear there's a bug that makes it so you can't see when someone is stealing the vault in point break.
I'll be fucking camping a floor above waiting to jump down if someone gets on it, and then I'll get jump scared by the notification of them having stolen it, without the alarms or flashing light going off ever.

Apexbabs rule your world

>>2255132
>Remove or nerf into the ground the only decent specialization that heavies have left.
No idea why faggots like you just want to remove all the fun from this game.

>>2255671
>the only decent spec that heavies have left
I mean, that's technically true, but only because Charge is fantastic and Goo Gun is godlike

best game in the world with the worst servers in the world Jesus fucking Christ it's unplayable sometimes.

People are talking about embark cocreators freaky dms, what's that all about?

>>2256204
Embark Rob is accused of donating large amounts of money and gifting subs to some streamer in exchange for her nudes. And then apparently jerked off on stream while playing with her and asked her to use a remote control vibrating butt plug on him.
Right now it's all heresay with no concrete proof, but Embark is investigating regardless.
At the same time there were also some pro players who were sexually harassing some girl and Embark decided to cancel the eSports season as they investigate this. So the pro scene might be dead.

>>2256253
based swede dev being blackmailed by a findom

>>2256253
Sounds like nothing to really care about as a play
>Embark Rob
it's pathetic as shit, but as long as she was legal and he wasn't embezzling, it's whatever
>Embark cancels the eSports season
they weren't really planning much other than the major anyways, and hey that might mean wilder patches, lol

>>2256263
>"I am goign to agdivade your buddblug :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD"

Never realized how insanely easy throwing knives are wtf. I never play light but I was doing a clan mission and I'm just stomping this lobby

>>2257091
Yeah, Throwing Knives are in the superior end of TTK for Light's weapons, have stable accuracy (although some dispersion, IIRC mainly while jumping), and while it does have a hard range of 30m, it's got no falloff within that (although some literal projectile falloff near the far end).

Already they're fantastic, but then you throw in the infinite ammo gimmick, in a game that's all about thresholds and one of the best parts of player knowledge checks is listening for roughly when there's not enough bullets let in their magazine to kill you, so you can push in and kill them while tanking the rest.

When you're playing Melee, that skill is invaluable. It's basically a hard requirement for being truly effective with the Sledgehammer. Then any Light can just take Throwing Knives and completely invalidate it.

>>2257123
Yeah never having to reload is really fucking good. I play light as like a dive class, getting a pick and getting out and that's just insane.

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Henlo, guys. What class and weapon you can recommend to a new player? I can aim a little but want to get better, I tend to have good situational awareness, I like to have cheesy shit with high skill floor

>>2257123
>>2257608
Noted, light, knifes. I already tried them in the practice range and they was so much better than anything else

>>2257091
>>2257123
The worst part? The random fucking headshots that do 2x (or 1.75, anyway, super high for a light weapon).

So yeah, just spam that shit and boom, 90 dmg, at random
fuck off

shouldn't be infinite ammo, make it so every 18 knives or something you gotta reload or some bullshit.

>>2257608
Medium with AK. Switch off turret and use healbeam. Don't worry about being a "healbot" heals are very strong so even if you pull zero kills but have above 3-4k heals, you're being very helpful to your team. Don't revive with defibs in the middle of an open field, try to always take the statue to a safe spot and then either use defib if you need to rez quick or do a "hand rez" if you're not in immediate danger.

If you find yourself dying too much for your tastes, switch to mesh shield heavy. Always keep RPG and dome in your loadout though. M60 or Lewis are great for first timers.

does this game support forced DLSS 4.0/4.5?
will they ever fucking optimize it even a tiny bit more?
it's so close to playable on my shitbox but not quite it still feels off

>>2257608
Medium with Famas. Healbeam or Demat as your spec.
Bouncepad, Defib, third slot can be whatever you like ex. goo gernade, frag, flash, gas mine or motion sensor etc.

sonar gernades are insane with how much information they give you with such little commitment

>>2259087
I miss when medium had them and their range was 15 meters. CB2 and OB was the most fun the game had ever been

>>2259087
I think they're a fair-enough tradeoff. If your opponents have map knowledge and awareness, then it's very easy for a sonar grenade to actually give your opponents a lot of info as well, especially since they can see it's there without activating it. There's almost a proportional principle to it to, where the less likely a sonar is to give you away, the less likely it is to be useful, and only the really clever uses can break this rule.

All in all I think it's pretty well balanced for something that's still strong to use.

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>>2256253
>some pro players who were sexually harassing some girl
When in reality it's pic related

>>2260726
>manipulated someone that was sexually vulnerable
>call them a predator
what am I missing here

>>2260726
Read it with Disney villan voice and you will see how dumb it is

>>2260726
Idk what this is, but the pro scene is stupid anyways and is the reason we don't get balance patches that change shit up all that much anymore.
So fuck them either way

and then they sold PHL lol, the biggest community for the US pro scene is dead

>>2261320
it's almost like esports never mattered to The Finals and Embark has no qualms about circuits go up in flames, with the only thing they do give a rats ass about is having The Major as a singular end of year thing

>>2261322
Ranked was present since the first closed beta tho

>>2261389
There's a lot you can say about pre-S4 Ranked and how much weight it even holds, but the most conclusive thing is that ranked != esports, you dingus

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If I just hit emerald 4 is it too late to get emerald 1?

>>2262526
Should be doable if you just keep going

>>2261668
It had live leaderboards, that counts for people wanting interest in an esport dynamic. Hell the whole game is an esport

>>2262860
>that counts for people wanting interest in an esport dynamic
These words are dripping with zoomer juices. Your perception is heavily warped
>the whole game is an esport
The whole game is a gameshow

>>2263085
Plenty of old games pivoted to competitive play, lot of games nowdays have to if they wanna stay relevant. I don't like it either, but I'm not gonna act blind to the fact that ever since season 2 they've been pushing better ranked features for a more feature complete competitive scene.

>>2263240
>to competitive play
Which isn't esports play
>since season 2
Season 3 is when they actually put effort into it, but that doesn't count because, you know, Terminal Attack. S4 is the first season with "actual" ranked
>a more feature complete competitive scene
Which isn't tied at the hip to esports play.

Meanwhile, Embark's behavior towards eSports has been "uhhh if you wanna host something then fine, we'll share it on d*scord, and if you have enough pro players we'll acknowledge your league, but otherwise we don't give a shit about anything other than the grand major"

>>2263245
They were looking to RFI certify PHL before it went to shit lol, they're upping investment into esports. There's a big difference between literal who circuits like LuqqsCup and shit like PHL's cup. Competitve inherently brought esports and they knew this, you even underlined S3's Terminal Attack which was meant to be the full ranked mode, it even had a website dedicated to it. S3 was also within a year of release, esports was the obvious next step.

>>2263257
>They were looking to RFI certify PHL before it went to shit lol
Oh wow, it's almost like that was acknowledged in the post you're replying to, ya dingus
>they're upping investment
Not at all. Until they actually put up money and set up circuits, they're objectively NOT investing in eSports. The RFI exists to track tourney results, not to be any actual effort on Embark's part, lol.
>competitive inherently brought eSports
Everywhere except Embark themselves. It's almost like Embark doesn't care to actually do or support anything outside of the Major, as had been stated multiple times
>TA which was meant to be a full ranked mode
And ranked, again, is not eSports
>S3 was also within a year of release, esports was the obvious next step.
pffffffffffffffffffft okay, sure
This is the last reply out of me, because you're clearly desperate to reach for anything and are just wasting my time.
Yeah sure buddy, eSports was definitely the next step, despite the fact that even just Ranked (which, again, is not eSports) had to have been overhauled AGAIN for the next season, we're here almost 2 years later with absolutely no real eSports, just a single big tourney by Embark and then a bunch of smaller podunk tourneys that Embark is willing to track the results of. "Ooooo just two more weeks, and The Finals will definitely be an eSport then, just you watch!!!!!"

>>2263365
You're awfully butthurt about the simple truth
It's just happening under your nose

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phenomenal!

>>2260809
Men are treated as predators by default unless whatever is being perpetrated against them is absurdly egregious. That's why you'll see a OF whore be treated as the victim despite them routinely fleecing depressed/mentally ill men of thousands of dollars.

how come every other game has a team blatantly wallhacking or with aimbot? is the anticheat malfunctioning? I'm only silver rank playing against stacks of cheaters lmfao wtf is this niggertarded dogshit

>>2265075
Consoleniggers are responsible for this. Disable crossplay and overall bullshit will be reduced like 80%

Okay, I played some more. Why the fuck this game is not popular? It's the most diverse fps I ever played, and rn I play exclusively point break to learn how to shoot things. Players with 2000 wins still disintegrate me on a sight, but I finally understand things and can do something sometimes.

And what is the best value for real money spending? I plan to buy one of the DLC and use these tokens to unlock past weaboo season rewards

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>>2268065
And what is the best value for real money spending?
It really depends on what you value as a bonus, since most of the bundles offer the same amount of coins at 2400

>>2268065
>Why the fuck is this game not popular
It takes a lot of adjustment to get used to. It's a three-pronged thing
1) The relatively higher TTK demands a different approach to gunfights than what the average shooter fan these days is used to
2) Cashout as a gamemode often throws people for a loop. There's so many layers to how you need to position yourself to fight for it, and those layers get exponentially compounded by being multi-team. It takes a long time to figure out the right way to set up a defense instead of just "KILL EM ALL!!!!!," and it's why there's people who have played for over 2 years that still think it's hard dealing with getting third partied
3) Destruction then cranks this all up to 11, as all notion of traditional map design and flow is gone, and players can attack from literally anywhere at any time. Nice job setting up all those defenses on the chokepoint, because they're busting through the wall and bypassing it all instead.
>what is the best value for real money spending
The New Contestant Pack. With it, you get enough coins to buy the Battle Pass, and as long as you complete enough of it, that pass will pay out enough coins to get the next pass. This means you can effectively buy all future Battle Passes for a one-time purchase of $8.

>>2268065
Fucked balancing, 3 years running
took way too long to get intresting content
only recently added doubling protection and it's still halfbaked
cashout still needs better spawns, especially for cashouts and vaults.
Season 3
then season 6 and 7 were just boring (i'd argue even S8 but atleast we got something)
No new specs since s3 and the less used ones still don't recieve buffs (guardian turret is still useless, mesh has SOME use now but they rebuffed light's glitch nades so)
New player onboarding is pretty shit, even with the new premade loadouts. Matchmaking also doesn't help, it will put you in bot lobbies for like 5 matches after that, you're getting paired against people with a lot more experience and it's annoying to have noobs in your team
there is also a different approach to teamwork, which can only be really understood by playing somewhat serious modes and with a modicum of communication, which most people may not want to do, so they "learn" a class wrong and don't know positioning or proper gadget use.
poor performance, especially serverside. I have seen MANY shots that do the "sparks" but don't connect on an enemy. If the servers are particularly shitty with hitreg, some weapons are straight up unusable.

I've been playing this since the closed betas and lemme tell you, every new player I tried to introduce quit very early. I don't suggest people pick up this game desu, but I won't lie and say it's all bad. It is THE most f2p game out there and what it does, it can do good. Just wished some aspects weren't neglected for this long

>>2268263
>only recently added doubling protection
The game always had doubling protection

It's called being on top of the first deposit and knowing how to defend the cashout when it's stacked

>try playing ranked as a lightnigger
>we roll HLL comp
>get to the final against MMM team
>two of them have noobtubes that basically oneshot half our team
>they just bunker down holding hands like fags with turrets and heals
>tbags us on kills, entire team has expensive cosmetics and gay taunts
>heavy is a bit useless but draws out their attention from time to time
>somehow manage to come back from an initial 25k-0
>don't even have half of the lightnigger loadout unlocked, my best counter is the glitch nade
>manage to hit a nasty glitch while one of their noobtube fags is reloading
>swing in and one clip their healbot, other lightnigger two pumps the reloading chump
>heavy domes the payload just in time to save me
>turn around and one clip the last fag
>we're all tbagging their body in a circle
no words were shared beyond ggwp at the end but I know for a fact every gamer in the lobby was sweating

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>>2268853
had a team with 2 noobtubers in the final round on my promo game to diamond

we didn't let them get a single kill lmao

>>2268771
quick cash hands typed this

I just noticed bank it gives a shit ton of WT points. Going to grind to emerald 1 in this mode now.

>>2268907
>noobtubers
You embarrass yourself more and more with each post you make in this thread

>retard goes afk on my team
>we lose
>report him
>on my team for the next 3 games
>lose every one because he either goes akf or griefs by inting
>queue dodge
>team has 2 players
wtf is this shit

>>2269772
I has games where players were doing this too. One of them I think just had connections issues, but the other he was blatantly just AFKing on purpose but would like occasionally move to not get kicked. Fucking weird

>>2270036
The matchmaking feels complete bonked desu ne. Like, I can't remember last game I played where I wasn't top frag. Every other game has a smurfing stack or cheaters on console. And if it's not that, then I have afk teammates or griefers. As soon as I get one competent M, I win lol.
It's such a shame because I actually really like the gameplay, but I can't for the life of me just get a decent match. Literally hardstuck in silver despite ALWAYS being top 2 frag in the entire lobby.

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>>2270327
Are the numbers just for show? Haven't played a game that mixes ranks and stacks this much before.

>>2264851
>activate windows
Do gamers really?
https://massgrave.dev/

>>2270502
Those guys might've been queueing together

>>2270722
Yeah, they were. Seems like I just shouldn't ever queue peak hours ranked solo. Even in silver. I'm amazed at how hard this game is solo queue. I've literally never been silver rank in any game before.

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another awesome and very close game

>>2264851
A cowboy?

>>2270984
looks more like a mix between lamaj and erioioire to me

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close game, almost had em!

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ah shucks! maybe tomorrow my teammates will have a pair of hands :)

>>2270974
>>2271066
>>2271087
>Light
>Ranked
>Playing for another club
Your pain is yours to carry and deserved to have

bank it is such a dog shit mode I fucking hate it
It's the mode you play if you love getting third partied. It's so fucking shit.

>>2271297
>It's the mode you play if you love getting third partied.
Man, it's like, you're thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close to realizing that getting third partied isn't actually an issue for a good number of players, as they like engaging in the defensive and evasive play required to navigate the clusterfuck, but you stop short because accepting that getting third partied isn't objectively bad/unfun would completely shatter the protective blanket you've wrapped your ego in.

>>2271357
No it's just poorly designed and nobody likes it which is why it was taken out of the game initially and only brought back as an LTM

>>2271509
Nope, you're thinking of TA. Bank It was just removed because its deathmatchy flow overlapped with TDM, which they wanted to push as a new primary mode instead. The only side mode that's been able to survive despite having some overlap is Head 2 Head, since it arguably exists to offer practice for the final round.

>>2271525
Both are bad actually.

>>2271597
All of The Finals is bad actually

>>2271297
congrats, you realized why quick trash and bank it blow ass

don't listen to the other anon, 3rd parting is an issue, so much so that they even address it in some patchnotes. But hey, he clearly knows more about the game.

the only credit I will give to bank it is that it allows you to play bigger chunks of map than TDM but is infinitley less fun and I'm happy that we don't get ""LTM"""s where it's just "Solo Bank It" again for the 50th time. They all sucked and it was never fun, bank it was just the warmup mode but now there's TDM so who cares.

I give up on solo ranked. I'm usually above average rank in any fps I solo queue in but this game destroyed me. I even tried going medium and heavy to fix shitty team comps but it just never works out because 990% of randoms are braindamaged. What's the gamemode to play lightnigger and medium without caring about teammates? TDM?

>>2271087
>>2271066
>>2270974
how do people get placed in silver unironically, the only time I ever got bronze was because my 2 teammates literally threw all 4 placement matches in a row and we got 1st rounded every round but that was 5 seasons ago.

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>>2271739
>it was never fun

>>2271742
look at the scoreboards
I'm diamond in apex and masters in overwatch

>>2271741
Powershift or Point Break
H2H if you can carry but be warned, H2H is played by actual brain damaged people
TDM is a mixed bag because it's 30% both teams having somewhat balanced teams and the remaining 70% it's "Oops! All LIGHTS!". In those cases, equip DB and have fun.

>>2271743
A gamemode so good it was removed
Everyone complained about Bank It back in the day, even as far as in the Open Beta when it first came out.

>>2271739
>so much so that they even address it in some patchnotes
The patchnotes also said the Sledgehammer is an issue in attempt to heal certain player's egos, so holding them up as being objective or even qualified proof of anything is a leg to stand on that you've permanently lost long ago

>>2271744
I saw but still shouldn't be that hard to get atleast to gold by soloqing. Doesn't help that you soloq light

>>2271748
>the sledge patchnote argument
and there it is
again, why don't you send your CV to embark if you're so good at balancing

>>2271747
I remember it having as many fans and complaints as the other modes did at the time

>>2271750
>again
It's funny seeing that you've apparently have been completely disarmed on this matter in the past by other people. My suggestion to you would be that: if there exists a massive and consistent silver bullet against your argument that apparently everyone recognizes as existing, then that probably means your argument isn't very good and you should adapt. After all, life isn't a video game, so you can't really whine until your counter gets patched out like you have been so far lololololol.

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>>2271746
I tried point break a couple of times and the defenders always seem to lose pretty badly. That's not my thing. Point break is always fun desu, maybe I should stick to that. Last round I played that gamemode I went heavy and fucked up the enemy team so badly some of them ragequit lol.
>>2271749
I tried medium and it's honestly even worse. The problem is that it's super fucking rare my teammates win 1v1. Even when I go medium and babysit with heals, I might as well just shoot the enemies myself because my teammates take retarded fights and can't win even with pocket. Also puts a massive target on my back. They don't take my zips ever and chose to play on low ground against invis lights with sword and get shit on from spots I can't heal. I tried doing the mine strat too but it's still not enough. Heavy would be good if my teammates played around me but they never ever do. It's literally elo hell. Theres not a single match I've played in the past 5 hours with a team that have hands or brains. Like I said, I'm masters dps in overwatch and diamond in apex. Mostly solo queue. This game is the hardest solo queue I've ever played and it's solely because random teammates are the most braindamaged individuals I've ever met in any game ever put up against smurf stacks and cheaters on console. It's ridiculous.

>>2271756
Point break > point break

>>2271756
Oh shoot I meant powershift is fun.

>>2271754
>by other people
don't kid yourself. it's only you, you're the only dude defending this argument to this vehement degree.
>then that probably means your argument isn't very good and you should adapt
the irony is palpable here.
Sledge had a nerf coming. Granted, maybe not to the nuclear degree it got but a nerf was in the works nonetheless.

You're clearly not willing to look at the actual flaws the game has and my money is on you not even playing the game, but just hopping in this /vm/, claiming it as a "place of discussion that is not like /v/" and then shitting over anyone having a slightly different opinion than yours and resorting to personal insults and belittlement. Do you get such a high from a percieved superiority in a thread that has at best 30 weekly anons? I think you should be the one growing up here.

>>2271756
Yeah, I see your problem, it's really shitty when you have retarded teammates and unfortunatley even at Gold 1, they keep being stupid and not playing around teammates in a team game. You really do have to carry at these elos but it's not at simple. If you really want to climb, your best bet would be to look for teammates on some discords or shit. I know, >trannies and all that but comms really do make or break and even a modicum of cohesion is key in ranked. As you said, low ranks on console are especially bad since even with the AA being very strong, they still can't take advantage of that. I understand your pain though, I've soloqueued too and I know how annoying it can be.

But yeah, you can have fun in Powershift, there's usually less stress about roles so just take your pick and do your thing. It does skew perception of role usages tho, so not the best thing to practice anything other than your aim and kill farming

>>2271760
There's not really anything for me to respond to in this post. Well, maybe the question of whether Sledge had a nerf coming, but that's also a separate tangent that I wouldn't want to really talk to you about anyways, because: the vast majority of the content in this post is just you declaring what appears to be a multitude of chips in your shoulder from previous interactions with other anons, mixed with a metric ton of cope.

As such, my response is more a simple observation: holy fuck are you mentally ill lmao. It's just a video game bro, being discussed on a mongolian basketweaving forum. You should not be letting so many people live rent-free in your head, let alone melding them together and projecting them onto anyone that disagrees with you.

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>>2271767
>coping
>you're mentally ill
>it's just a game bro
>rent free
>projecting
This is the ultimate deflection with a touch of ad hominem mixed with semi ironic bait. Struck a nerve? Next time, play the game.

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I see anons are talking about third partying, it's always an option in the modes with more than one team and is almost guaranteed in quick cash with it only having three parties. If a team decides it's a good idea to show up after you've battled over the point and attack you while you still need to recover then they will.

>>2271769
>This is the ultimate deflection
You can add me calling you illiterate to the list, because I did wholly acknowledge your post within my post and said to the exact degree in which I would respond to it. No amount of deflection at all. Actually we can add another thing as well: I'm half-suspecting you of GPT Post at this point too, and that you're gay.

>>2271775
>No amount of deflection at all
You literally didn't answer shit you just went "I wouldn't want to really talk to you about anyways" when referring to the sledge nerf.
Your whole stance boils down to "ur bad lol, skill issue"
Still haven't seen a half decent post that is willing to justify 3rd partying that isn't just you saying "well maybe if you defended better lol git gud!"

>>2271779
>You literally didn't answer shit you just went "I wouldn't want to really talk to you about anyways" when referring to the sledge nerf
Well yeah, because you are obscenely mentally ill and it's a different tangent at this point. Your reply was all about your delusions and trying to levy them on me, and I addressed the core content of the post. Anything regarding the discussion of the Sledge and how much it deserved a nerf, well, it was addressed to the same degree that it had presence in your reply
>Your whole stance boils down to "ur bad lol, skill issue"
Oh no, we're way past that at this point. This is genuinely just about you seriously needing help, and you can't really walk back your past two posts that were dedicated to practically nothing about the game.

If you want to even pretend to have a genuine conversation on the matter, I suggest you instead just take a lap and re-engage the issue later without your heaps of schizo drivel attached to it.

>>2271783
Ok now you're trying way too hard
You're not that important, no further reply necessary

is the club dead?

>>2271786
There ya go champ. Like I said, take a lap, come back around later, and we can actually discuss it properly. Don't worry, I'm not a fucked up schizo like you: I won't have any delusions that someone talking about a Sledge is suddenly you and only you, so even when it very likely will be anyways, we can have a nice little discussion about its balance.

>>2271788
unironically, most of everyone is on at different times

it's part of why there's that dedicated group of euros and asians that complain about NA anons having it easy

>>2271764
>unfortunatley even at Gold 1, they keep being stupid and not playing around teammates in a team game
The thing is that it wouldn't even be a problem if the other teams were like that, but they are ALWAYS full stacks or duos. I don't get it.

>>2271799
Then I really don't know, sorry. You might really have to look for 2 more players, doesn't have to be a permanent stack, even just 2 randos that have mics and ears.

>>2271802
Found two guys on discord yesterday and gained back 3k rating. Then I soloed the rest to gold with decent teammates that didn't feed for once :)

>>2273485
Hey good on you man, you're on the right track. stay strong

Bank it is gone, i should have grinded it more when i had the chance. I hated it but it was good for that.

>>2273850
I really feel like they should just do what splatoon does and have a mode slot reserved for rotating games that change up every hour. I'm one of the few people that enjoyed terminal attack and thought it sucked that it was removed. But I also get that its not for everyone. Just seems like a waste to have these modes like TA, cashball, or bank it, but only use them maybe once a year.

>>2273870
that would be a great addition

>>2273870
Don't forget steal the spotlight, blast off, Heaven or Else and Heavy Hitters.
Hell even the snowball fight TDM mode could be fun if came back occasionally.
The only game mode I outright hate is the dogshit ghoul event we got for Halloween.

>>2273965
Oh yeah for sure. Though I'd probably still want the holiday themed ones to stay during the holidays. I mostly just want the modes that play functionally different, rather than the ones that are just a different flavors of death match with limited loadouts.

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yay

>>2274848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1DkBQRQj4

>>2274848
Nice!

>>2274868
>>2275085
ty

I'm tired of all the toxic positivity hugbox we have around here so let me drop a quick one to sober up the mood
I got gold in ranked today and if the skin reward will be shitit will be, this is Nexon's game after all, I will never touch ranked ever again, matchmaking puts you into 0 IQ teams with literal children who pick dual blades or hipfire m11 just to throw the match on round 1
And don't even get me started on smurfs, 1st place griefers and blatant cheaters who pop up almost in every fucking game, no wonder Embark does nothing for the player retention, they simply don't care about the sorry state of the game anymore since Arc Raiders is the main cash cow for them now, Season 10 will be a hot dogshit compared to the current season, mark my words

>>2277335
*farts*

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>>2277335
I'm noticing a pattern of players playing ranked and being absolutely miserable, curious.

>>2277335
shhh don't say the truth around here, you might hurt their feelings

>>2277335
People not being negative isn't toxic positivity. Forcing positivity and forcing any criticism to shut up for the sake of not having criticism is toxic positivity.

You just don't like that people aren't being actively negative, and you're explicitly saying you're forcing negativity for the sake of it, so then why would I put any stock in what you have to say and read the rest of your post if it's explicitly not a natural statement.

>>2278025
kek

>>2279562
this post kinda proves his point though

>>2280383
He doesn't have a point. He literally said he just wants to stir the pot.

>>2280580
he complains about teammates being retarded and matchmaking being bad. You're mad because you fall within that category of retards

>>2280599
That's not just the finals though. That's literally any game that requires teamwork. Go play CS with randos and see how that goes for you.

>>2280603
those games have better carry capacity where even 1 or 2 good teammates can be the difference. In the finals, the team is as weak as it's weakest member, even moreso in cashout gamemodes.

>>2280599
What he said was
>I'm tired of all the toxic positivity hugbox we have around here so let me drop a quick one to sober up the mood
That's not "I have a complaint" that's "I want to stir the pot"

The fact that you're jumping to a shallow "u mad" smells like you're just trying to stir the pot as well

What toxic positivity is even in this thread? Seems a like a non-issue

>>2280608
i mean if you don't even go past the first line, yeah
although i'd say here we're not more about toxic hugboxes but more about redirected argumentation where an entire argument is thrown out due to a percieved superiority, thus shutting down any and all discourse since it's automatically in bad faith

>>2280642
>i mean if you don't even go past the first line, yeah
Hence the last line of
>>2279562

>where an entire argument is thrown out due to a perceived superiority
I don't think that really happens here that often. There's a small gaggle of people that will bleat about "muh hours" and "muh rank" or "muh real gamemode" but those people are also so easily aggravated and upset that they often fuck off quickly when it's clear people won't respect that in turn.

I wouldn't say that charge applies to this situation either: it's not a matter of perceived superiority, it's someone literally opening their post with "yeah this shit gonna blow your fragile little hugbox minds," and by god if you think that's gonna be followed by anything honest and earnest then what the fuck is wrong with you.

>>2280616
He might've only read the last few posts made

>>2280659
Again this post is perfect proof because
>you put down people due to "muh hours", "muh rank", "muh real gamemodes". A case of percieved superiority with no counterargument because you deem those not important.
>whilst also propping yourself to be higher than this by saying "i'm ignoring this because i'm above this and the anon is being disingenous, therefore the whole post is invalid"

you want anything to be "honest and earnest" and "respectful" when you can't even follow the same principles you preach

>>2280680
First off, don't mix actual quote text with your own assertions that should just be regular text, it muddles what all you're even trying to levy against me or say that I said. Second
>I'm ignoring this
Yes.
>because I'm above this
No.
>the anon is being disingenuous
Yes.
>therefore the whole post is invalid
Yes. Anon prefaced his post with an intent to pot stir instead of actually discuss things, so the post is invalid for discussion. The material beyond that point might very well be cogent, but to actually discuss it would require someone else to discuss it with. If you actually wanted to discuss it, then you should have taken up his point as one you actually wanted to discuss, but the closest you've gotten to this is this post >>2280599 where half of its content is childish insults with "u mad, you are a retard."
>you can't even follow the same principles you preach
The principle is "be honest and earnest for there to actually be discussion," to which your response is "but you're saying being dishonest and unearnest invalidates discussion, that betrays the principle." That logic doesn't work at all.

This will also be my last post on this matter. After a certain point, this reply chain continuing gets in the way of actually discussing video games, and I've made it clear that I value that quite a bit.

>>2247978
Dude has a build of a fat sim

>>2280809
Once again, you cannot simply invalidate any argument simply because you feel it's in bad faith, especially when it ends up being detrimental to your argument. Ironically, you are still trying to play moral high ground by pretending to be on some sort of high pedistal where any and all discourse must be combed through your rigorous standards of quote on quote "rules" (personal term, feel free to correct me).

But please, if you do actually value any sort of discussion (of which I have yet to see any, in pretty much any previous post and thread), feel free to tell me on which grounds you wish to speak and how to be approached, lest you immediatley dismiss my posts with an immediate dis-missal.

>>2280906
My first thought was Zach Galifianakis in futuristic drag

As a console/controller player, it's insane how much easier this game is once you've turned the horizontal sensitivity to the max. Lights are not a problem anymore lol

>>2281523
roller lights are a bigger threat than any mnk player, they can dash while still fully tracking you, it's so goddamn annoying

>>2281914
Second roller aim nerf when, Embark?

>>2282069
never, lights would cry too much

do you play with framegen?

>>2283606
no, tried once and the input delay is very noticeable, it's not worth it, I'd rather play at shitty 70 fps than a smeared and unresponsive fake 130

>>2283612
I notice the input delay too but the visuals look fine to me

>>2283616
there's a clear smear across the screen
think DLSS ghosting but worse, it feels like I'm playing the game underwater or with the screen smeared in vaseline.
Then again, old GPU and CPU, don't know if newer cards handle it better

>>2283617
My card can do fsr4 or redstone or whatever the hell they call it now and it genuinely surprised me how nice it looks. That being said, the input latency is just too much.

>>2283619
Fair enough, but I'm not willing to comprimise input speed, especially in a game like this

>they use arc raiders promotional skin
>they're noobs
every time

>>2284398
I sure love being level 95 and routinely matched with retarded noobs that are under level 30 and on my team in world tour!
Fuck, what amazing matchmaking!!
Why isn't The Finals more heckin' popular?!!111

>>2283606
>>2283616
>>2283619
>>2283621
FSR works perfectly for me, and the input delay is so minimal that it's a negligible difference
Skill issue

>>2284476
Don't forget the classic, your team is filled with noobs that just installed the game while the enemy team is all people that have 2k+ hours or smurf accounts.

>>2284482
bronze hands typed this post

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>>2284482
I'm talking about this version specifically. It adds about 10ms to frametime on my machine, so yes, it's noticeable. Looks nice, but makes my mouse movement feel delayed.

>>2284520
Imagine bragging about rank in a game that has an infamously dogshit ranked mode where you lose 5 gorillion MMR for placing 3rd against ruby smurfs and "only" 5 hundred thousand for placing 2nd
Couldn't be me, lil bro

>>2284476
GPT Post

>>2284720
>lil bro

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>S9
>first Chinese themed season
>is full of cheaters
What did Embark mean by this??

I just want S10 deets, why they gotta be cryptic ass niggers. It's less than 2 weeks away, you need to be building hype

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>>2288083
they meant that lmao china

So what S10 needs is
>button to swap back to statue camera in Point Break
>Evasive Dash now goes on 10s cooldown if all charges are used
>Sword gets the SR3 Dildo Bat skin so all its users whining about the justified nerf know what to do with themselves
>Thermal Vision restored, now making a noise so people can try to counter attack while in the smoke
>AKM and P90 having their TTKs swapped
>Dual Blades now can have their guard broken, but it gives them a 10% speed boost
>Demat delay removed
>Healing Beam range extended
>MGL32 detonates on contact with contestants
>KS-23 damage restored to 120
>Spear spin cancelling to be made a mechanic
What else

>>2288362
>medieval season
hype
>random bullshit go season
no hype

>>2288467
I want them to unfuck the first person pov for the riot shield. I feel like a fair compromise is to make it like one way glass so I can at least get my chunk of the screen back while still retaining the position of the model for others.

Also I want them to nerf evasive dash to 2 charges at the very least. If they're not willing to do that then give me back my 2 ammo glitch mines instead of this bs 1 with a cooldown for the 2nd.

They need to stop using statistics from singular modes to justify nerfs (see APS/CL-40 and powershift) and pull from stats across the board. Its no wonder new players don't stick around the more casual modes when one class gets fastest health regen, fastest movement speed, highest dps weapons, counters are nerfed into the ground (winch, glitch mine, cl-40, goo, demat, hammer). I would include recon senses, but that specialization was really bad for this type of game and bringing it back briefly as an event really cemented that. The only thing I hated about going up against heavies was charge n slam feeling like a win button. The rest of its nerfs since day 1 seemed really unreasonable.

>>2288503
>medieval season
Only retarded söy redditors want this shit as a whole ass season, won't mind it as a LTM event though

>>2288467
>>button to swap back to statue camera in Point Break
this one is already ingame though?
>>Evasive Dash now goes on 10s cooldown if all charges are used
I wish, but never ever. The perfect nerf would be for there to be a cooldown between each dash. Say something like 2 seconds between each dash so they can't just spam it back n forth.
>>Thermal Vision restored, now making a noise so people can try to counter attack while in the smoke
This didn't work for Recon Sense, doubt it would for thermal. They'd also have to make it so it uncloaks you if you're using cloak or invis bomb
>>AKM and P90 having their TTKs swapped
nah, they're fine. Give AKM 36 bullets back though.
>>Dual Blades now can have their guard broken, but it gives them a 10% speed boost
this would be cool but it'd also kinda kill them more than it already does
>>Demat delay removed
moot about this
>>Healing Beam range extended
god no, but make it break healing upon losing LOS. Other than that, not many complaints about healing beam
>>MGL32 detonates on contact with contestants
The MGL rework is coming any day now, lol
>>KS-23 damage restored to 120
Doubt, especially when the BFR exists
>>Spear spin cancelling to be made a mechanic
Sure why not

what I want
>Restore the 2x HS bonus on the Pike, making it a viable choice (they did this by accident once and the gun felt pretty good)
>Give the AKM his 36 bullets back, the TTK is fine
>have ALL classes start selfhealing at the same time (8 or 10 seconds) BUT each class heals at a different RATE.
>give mesh slightly more HP or atleast reduce the deactivation penalty
>buff dome to something like 200 hp
>light dashes have cooldown between uses
>give throwing knives a "magazine" say something like 28 cards before having to "reload" it would reduce the tedium while still keeping the weapon decently strong. I'm ok with bow not having this restriction desu.
>would love a DB nerf but i'm not against it's current iteration, it's a pet peeve of mine desu

>>2288503
what I want out of a medieval seson
>fully destructible castle
what I don't want out of a medieval season
melee centric weapons or gay crossbows or similar.
what we'll get
>probably 1 new light weapon, maybe one heavy weapon
>reworked fanghwei

>>2288467
>here's what S10 needs
>light nerfs
>buffs to med and heavy
Beyond parody

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>>2289033
>light nerfs
flatter chest
>medium buffs
larger boobers
>heavy buffs
jiggle physics

>>2288467
hotter faces or customizable faces

>>2288467
>button to swap back to statue camera in Point Break
you can just swap who you're spectating and it'll roll back to your statue

>>2288467
>>>KS-23 damage restored to 120
The KS should be able to headshot and I'm sick and tired of it not being able to.

So Arc Raiders is going to stop using TTS because Embark apparently changed their minds on it and thinks it's unprofessional now.
Does that mean we're getting real voice lines too? Scotty and June sound fucking rough with their newer lines. Valkyria sounds like shit too, she's so monotone.

>>2289365
That's just the BFR. I guess it's been changed a bunch now, but I know previously it was like, the weapons had virtually the exact same TTK and everything. The KS-23 just should have higher base damage, as it's pretty well restricted to close quarters with its projectile mechanic, and it's designed to be able to threaten heavily in its space + be able to set up/clean out opponents. Can't really do that when slugs don't put them in enough immediate danger + you already spend them breaking into the place.

>>2288878
>highest dps weapons
The Light has the worst DPS weapons in the game though. They have fantastic practical TTK because they're almost always ambushing or they have stuff like Dash that's meant to negate "just aim better," but by themselves the weapons are not great.

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>>2289043
if they ever nerfed light booty imma riot

>>2289616
The KS-23 pisses me off dude, it's so cool how it can destroy walls but lights just out DPS you in it's optimal range and you can't do shit about it.

>>2289620
Fr. Light having the "highest DPS" weapons in the game is a meme when you don't take into account hp and relative TTKs.

>>2289691
don't worry anon they wouldn't change her butt

>Come back to the game
>Snipers still ruin power shit

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>>2288467
>sweatpants
>adding the world tour events like doubled up ingame events and dancefloor as possible modifiers in quickplay
>expanding the affected radius of events such as meteor shower or space invaders
>new events
>new limited time modes
>make kyoto buildings more succeptible to fire damage
>skirts with panties instead of spats
>lightning rainstorm variant
>more unique map variants
>jerseys/clothing/cool stuff for club members as unlockables
>more lore or in universe videos like the ones before season 7
>more colors for the sentai outfit
>more emotes featuring the hologram guys
>search bar for outfit pieces
>more information on scotty and june and announcer-san as well as more banter and lines
>events in ranked for shiggles
>more anime girl
from what I can imagine

>>2288467
I don't give a fuck about all that. What the game really, truly needs is BALANCED MATCHMAKING. I SHOULD NOT BE LEVEL 105 AND FREQUENTLY HAVING LEVEL 23 TEAMMATES.

>>2292300
all of this is trash for fashonista casuals except new LTMs and reworked events

>>2292300
Don't care about skirts. When they adding more shorts. There's still barely any in the game that don't have leggings underneath.

>>2292403
It's not even funny anymore. Casual is always me and maybe another guy being the only dudes with positive KD while the rest of my teammates are level 50 scrubs that do 3-10. While the enemy team routinley has the 5 man stack all with 110k kills and rubies.

The thing is, it's not something you can fix, that's something that can only be fixed by having more players, which aren't playing since they start playing, get their shit wrecked and then quit and go complain on reddit and I can't even blame them. Ironically, they should play ranked, atleast noobs in bronze levels have a better chance of finding an even match in ranked rather than in casual.

>>2289695
Yeah it's agonizing, and it's even more agonizing knowing the reasoning for the damage nerf is something like
>uh but uhhhhh it wouldn't be fair if Heavy had a quick kill combo off the winch with it
And it's like wow, thanks. Great having a gun that's permanently kneecapped because every once in a while, a light might get hit by a skill shot claw that's in just the right range to have enough stun for them to suffer the glass part of the glass cannon moniker, with this then also going on cooldown for almost 20s

>>2292465
lights can't have a counter, sorry

>>2292459
I was going to mention more shorts as well but forgot to, some good basketball shorts would be nice.

>>2292457
The buildings of Kyoto being vulnerable to fire makes sense though as they're primarily made of wood. More lore and stuff is fun fuel for the imagination of players and voice lines are another way of letting you learn more about the characters indirectly. I am biased on that part since I quite like the announcer, commentators and other non player characters. Unique map variants would be nice since a lot of the map variants we've gotten recently have just been the same ones like suspended structures, variants like sandstorm Vegas, duck and cover Monaco or construction Seoul that change the map up quite a lot aren't seen much in the newer maps which makes me think that's why the older maps are preferred. The rest of the stuff about dress up is just for fun though.

>>2292460
I think a lot of the current playerbase fails to realize that due to Embark's fumbling, the playerbase itself is going to carry on remaining niche and relatively "small", which in turn is going to continue the lopsided, painful matchmaking issues. Unless The Finals magically explodes in popularity or Embark smartly removes some unnecessary gamemodes in an attempt to uniformly spread out the bulk of the playerbase in an even manner, you will forever be level 200 and paired up with level 30 noobs that throw your matches regardless of whether it's season 10, 15, or 20.
The window of opportunity and grand success for The Finals has passed, dudes.
Arc Raiders won, and we fucking lost.

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>>2293106
>le everything is done and gone response

>>2293150
Debunk what I said here:
> Unless The Finals magically explodes in popularity or Embark smartly removes some unnecessary gamemodes in an attempt to uniformly spread out the bulk of the playerbase in an even manner, you will forever be level 200 and paired up with level 30 noobs that throw your matches regardless of whether it's season 10, 15, or 20.
You can't, but go on and try :'^)

>>2293106
>regardless of whether it's season 10, 15, or 20
And I imagine you'll still be here then, still shitposting about le doomed game, just like you have been for the past couple years already.

>>2293150
its true but how much it matters is up to you. vast majority of people are gonna quit tho

>>2293017
>The buildings of Kyoto being vulnerable to fire makes sense though as they're primarily made of wood
Fuck off, if any building I fight in can be reduced to ashes because some fuckwit on my team brough pyro nades, it's ass. It's already an aids map, please don't pour gasoline on the proverbial fire
>More lore and stuff is fun fuel for the imagination of players and voice lines are another way of letting you learn more about the characters indirectly. I am biased on that part since I quite like the announcer, commentators and other non player characters
Fair, but let's be real, they shot themselves in the foot on the lore front the second they introduced CNS as far back as in Season 2. And then they tried to make the grand major into an actual ingame event fucking lol. Gun to my head, I can't tell you a single relevant lore thing outside CNS coming along every now and then and Multico being the real life equivalent of Pepsico/Nestle/Rothchilds. And frankly, I don't really care beyond that.
>Unique map variants would be nice since a lot of the map variants we've gotten recently have just been the same ones like suspended structures, variants like sandstorm Vegas, duck and cover Monaco or construction Seoul that change the map up quite a lot aren't seen much in the newer maps which makes me think that's why the older maps are preferred.
I don't disagree on this and I have missed different variants for a long time. But once again, they always suck, sandstorm vegas has the easiest cashout defenses and the hardest attacks, if you get it on a final round and don't plug it in first, you're fucked since you can be held from 20 different angles. Duck and cover has always been seen as that one map variant where the main pace breaker isn't there. I personally love construction monaco but if you know any bit of game mechanics, it's 3rd party city that you always want to avoid and never plug into. Fun times though, I won't lie.

>>2293106
It's hitting the same point that a lot of old multiplayer games reach eventually as in, the only people who play it are too good and smother any sort of will and want to learn more about the game, by raising the skill floor for the average casual on top of matchmaking not being able to spread out players resulting in one team with maybe 1 or 2 good players and the enemy team filled with people with 3k hours. Removing stuff at this point can even be seen as backpedaling and having to cut resources. The only real solution is more players but there just isn't enough a steady influx of people, with more and more quitting.

>>2293254
> And I imagine you'll still be here then,
Hahaha no. But I imagine YOU'LL still be here then, thinking it's the sign of a heckin' epic, thriving playerbase to be forever pairing complete noobs with rubies, emeralds, and other assorted vets with amethyst badges
Pointing out how something like that is completely unacceptable and not normal in other competitive FPS games upsets you, apparently

>>2293313
oh and bare in mind, they're cutting support to the PS4 version, after being active for like, 2 and a half seasons.

>>2293314
Mmhm, doomposters like you definitely, totally leave, and don't just stick around spinning the same variations on the same script for years on end. Surely this time, The Finals will be over and you'll stop obsessing over it.

i dont wanna doom too but the games just boring now

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>>2293187
it was mainly in response to the end of your statement where you said
>Arc Raiders won, and we fucking lost.
which makes it seem the two games were in a tense competition with one another, I also wasn't the anon you were talking to before who kept getting matched with level 10-30s constantly, I ususally get matched with 60 somethings or 90s, which I think is fair given i'm 112 yet not particularly skilled. The part you wanted me to debunk is a what if question in itself and could possibly backfire as there are players that only play one mode who might just leave if it's removed. Was doing something, sorry for the late response.

>>2293325
Maybe if The Finals actually did something about it's matchmaking issues, there wouldn't be anything to "doompost" about? Are the brand new players that mysteriously have the exact same complaints also "doomposting" to you?
> Hm. Scores of unrelated people have very similar critiques of The Finals.
> They all are wrong and doomposting!!!11

>>2293106
>>2293150
>>2293254
>>2293313
>>2293325
>>2293332
>>2293340
yes, yes that's all well and good, but new players literally are not human. i love shitting on new players and making video games completely inaccessible to them, it makes me feel good about myself
let's turn into Tarkov desu

>>2293306
I can see that, I just thought it could make things more interesting on kyoto, smoke grenades and cans would obviously extinguish the flames. it could even be implemented where it mainly burns away the paper on doors or walls but leaves behind the wood. The grand major being an ingame event I thought was a neat way of implementing it into the game itself instead of them just announcing it as a real life tournament alone. It's also alright if you're not big on the lore since it's not needed to understand the game. The unique map variants that do exist definitely have their problems but that doesn't stop the devs from noting their shortcomings and accounting for them when making new variants, even stuff like tripwires and turrets vegas which wasnt super popular still added neat twists that weren't in the standard field while keeping most of the map the same.
More expirementation and adaptation in maps, gamemodes, and events is something I would like to see if I had to clarify my statement.

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>>2293349
I have never played tarkov and don't plan to start anytime soon.

>>2293340
he's just a contrarian, don't reply to him

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>>2293354
oh, but you will

>>2293351
The whole "the grand major is real guys!" reminded me too much of when Rainbow 6 Siege had a literal stadium where the matches were televized and shit. Granted, 2 different things but melding games and reality this much is jarring, especially when they were also sponsoring real life esport teams (paid cosmetics only, no multibucks. And pulsar white disbanded lol)

unfortunatley, they had 3 years to put out something intresting and retool events and variants and there really wasn't anything of note. At this point, I want the maps they make to be fun or at the very least rework the old maps.

>>2293381
yeah the team stuff only being buyable with real money was stupid. The simple event things they did like doubling up on ingame events as well as things like the dancepad event that gave you extra money for doing emotes on the dancefloor were fun little things that I would like to see brought into the game more often, The recent changes to the suspended structures variant have been rather nice, with much larger structures making them more interesting to play around than the smaller ones were. some reworks of old maps would be good as well though.

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>>2293367
why?

>>2293340
>Are the brand new players that mysteriously have the exact same complaints also "doomposting" to you
Nope, they're actually making proper complaints, which is good for the health of the game and its community. Embark has been pretty receptive to complaints over the years, and the more people speak up about them in a genuine manner is all the better.

YOU, on the other hand, are a doomposter. It's funny how you keep trying to say you're not while being unable to resist mixing it in with each post.

>>2293523
> Embark has been pretty receptive to complaints over the years, and the more people speak up about them in a genuine manner is all the better.
OK. So where are the improvements to matchmaking? This game has been out since 2023 and has had the same abysmal matchmaker for almost 10 seasons now.
Where are the improvements in that regard, bootlicker?

>>2293548
Again I defer to
>It's funny how you keep trying to say you're not while being unable to resist mixing it in with each post.
because you want to pretend to have actual criticism by questioning the issue with something that can be answered (they did make concrete improvements to the matchmaking seasons ago, and it's still been a work in progress in other areas since), but then you can't stop yourself from declaring that you're just a silly little doomposter by adding in that last line

It's like you can't physically stop yourself from shitposting.

>>2293554
And again, you don't answer my question.
If Embark refuses to fix their matchmaking issues after this long, they are not an exceptional development team nor are they one that truly listens to the concerns of their playerbase.
Realistically, it's going to be TEN SEASONS soon of the same primitive matchmaking that is insanely unfair for both new and veteran players.
I will not defend that, and frankly, it's pathetically embarrassing that you choose to do so.
Bootlicker.

>>2293573
> Yeah?
Okay then, that's what I thought, retard. :) And you're not only just wrong, you're willfully so to the point of burying your head in the sand.
The issues plaguing The Finals now will continue to do so until Embark stops being so lazy, and until then the valid complaints against the game will continue no matter how butthurt it makes you.
Cope, bootlicker.

>you're a doomposter and i won't listen to what you're saying
>you're a bootlicker and i won't listen to what
>you're a doomposter
>you're a bootlicker
>you're a doomposter
>you're a bootlicker
now u 2 kiss mwm mwm mwm mwmmmm

funny how the current gaming discourse is one where you can't even complain about something you like. You either vehemently love or or vehemently hate it, no inbetween of "it could be better" or "I have gripes with X choice"

>>2293918
Nah, I wouldn't agree. The mess above spiraled out from a S10 wishlist post, which in itself and several other replies to it shared several degrees of "I like this but it could be better" or just outright "ah god motherfucking damn this shit sucks why won't they buff this shit already why are they ruining this otherwise fun game with these dumbass choices."

Only a small number of posts and of a certain vernacular really get people butting heads over them, they're just unfortunately also the kind of people to argue for hours, making the contention with them voicing their opinion seem bigger than it is when it's still just regarding 1 out of X people

>>2293925
Guess so, but still, having people outright deny clear issues is just as problematic

>>2293930
It would, but I wouldn't say that applies there. The material of the posters regarding the actual game was secondary to the two of them having a nigga moment. It's why you don't see nearly that kind of backlash and shitflinging when people otherwise have complained about matchmaking for the past 10 seasons straight (seriously Embark, why the fuck aren't levels as filtered together as duos and trios are)

>>2293935
Not enough players to make a "balanced" game and a lot of smurfing and second accounts, unfortunatley. This will probably snowball, not much anyone can do here, no ammount of marketing can save it, it's too late for that and S10 doesn't really look intresting. That is if we actually knew anything about it other than "dude, medieval"

>>2293940
>not enough players to make a "balanced" game
>no amount of marketing can save it
I wouldn't think so. As mentioned previously, they already are able to pretty cleanly and consistently divvy up solos and duos and trios, so I doubt they'd have a lack of players. As far as marketing and boosting playercount, the game has also has had a few times where it's dipped low but then had a good season that got a sizeable amount of people come back in for a while, so I don't think that's an impossibility either. S9 was also not really especially worse in its dip either, despite the slump of S8, which I'd say is a good sign (it's posting a bit weaker now, but I'd chalk it up to this being a bonus extended week and people just waiting for S10).

I also dunno if it would necessarily snowball either. It's a shitty as fuck situation, but at the same time, having a high level player in a lobby mostly only negatively affects the high level player. For as much as people fear the stomping, it's a heavily team-centric game, and even Ruby 1 Light DB gods clearing lobbies with 50 elims a match are by design usually still unable to permanently hold the cashout if he truly is having to solely carry things. Little timmy 20 rank will still have an earnest chance at a W and then keep playing, while the Level 100+ is seething as his teammates, but only a small selection of those people ever leave because they're just straight up addicted, so retention remains positive.

Not defending it at all, that's just a different angle.

>S10 doesn't really look interesting
Well it's not like S10 looks like anything at all at this point. Probably the first thing Embark could do if they wanted to get more players is to not wait until the final week to start putting trailers out for their big milestone season holy SHIT what are they thinking

>>2293950
As I said before, for me it feels like what happens when you start getting into a really old multiplayer game where everyone is too good. The good players don't want you in their team because you'll throw (not by choice, simply lack of skill/knowledge) and you'll get your shit kicked in in every match, which doesn't feel good. You also don't know any of the tech or faux passes. Like, had a dude in a match (who was wearing an Arc raiders skin, obviously) who would keep defibbing people in the middle of a fight, getting them killed and when we told him to not do that, he still kept arguing about and that he did nothing wrong. Even when I want to teach these people, they make it painfully hard for me.

>>2293956
I just wouldn't count it out too much yet. In order for there to be the problem of high ranks being forced to carry low ranks, a sizeable amount of low ranks is required, and that "sizeable" has been pretty girthy despite everything (as based on how most of them play, I will also disagree with the smurfs/second account assertions).

Hell, the fact that a guy actively gave you lip is itself somewhat of an example of players not being overwhelmed by higher ranks, for better and certain also for worse (granted, I'll also give him the benefit of the doubt that it's reeeeally hard for most people to take mid-match criticism of even the softest variety)

And hey, the fact that he was yet another faggy ass raider kinda shows that the cross promotion is genuinely working. I notice a lot of these people are console players as well, which might explain why the Steam numbers are still just standard despite them coming in, and also why they also have such fucked up attitudes.

>>2293958
not like your teammates can see your ranks but then again, it wasn't only me trying to tell him how to play. It was the victims of his play telling him that.

It's also pretty hard to straight up carry these guys sometimes. No disrispect, but I'm tired of loosing because I cleared the platform on powershift and died and nobody hopped on to move it. Hell, most of the time these guys have negative kds, like c'mon man. Me and my buddy were playing a few days ago and we were consistenly the only people with a positive kd

People love to complain about player count while only looking at steam charts.
The playerbase for this game is probably mostly on console.

>>2294377
on PS5
and PS4 is/will be sunset soon
I've yet to see or hear about a SeX player

>>2294377
> People love to complain about player count while only looking at steam charts.
No shit, everytime you bring up issues about the game the usual sheepish reply on the finals subreddit is "sorry dude, you're going to have to deal with it. not enough people play, playerbase too niche/small for <majorly helpful insert quality of life improvement>"

>>2292470
The ultimate light counter is being able to aim. Which you clearly cannot lol

>>2294377
I think it's a healthy mix. Maybe 60:40 Console and PC. In all fairness, one could still argue that, while Steam numbers aren't indicative of the whole lot, they're still indicative of the trends in peaks and valleys, but then that's usually not an issue either.

It's honestly astounding how consistently that The Finals has been able to keep its player numbers without a certain range, for a new IP in a bloated market that most people didn't understand what it is and many of those who did try it dropped it, and to which most of the prevailing sentiment is "omg it's dying"

Usually in those cases, it trickles down to sub-10k and less pretty quickly, but it's stuck around. Although I imagine S10 will just crater to prove me wrong anyways.

https://youtube.com/shorts/xQEV5LSpiyQ

It's a cosmic season. All the medieval season wanters are crying their eyes out right now.

>>2295988
It's definitely going to be knights fighting in castles on the moon.

>>2295988
I wouldn't be too sure. The Finals has a weird attachment to the 60s and 70s specifically, and this feels like it could be disco as fuck.

I just hope if it is nostalgia it's not 80s as the chrome might imply

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>>2296358
>it's not 80s as the chrome might imply

>>2296358
The chrome is for the mechas

>>2295988
I am sad, but not very sad, cosmic season is my #2 wish for this game

i hate that people say to just "aim better" when it comes to the dash

it's literally designed to dash out of where you're aiming

that's the point

it's meant to counter aiming

are people just dumb????

>>2296358
>chrome
it could be in reference to a tin anniversary for ten years

>Ultimate Pass item now in the shop
>it actually has additional details than the version in the Ultimate Pass
Interesting. Feels like soft confirmation that Ultimate items aren't coming back but will get repaints

>>2297210
it's the people that don't pay the human reaction tax of 200 ms, apparently
the counter is winch in theory, but dash can work even through enemies, so

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>>2297210
This you?

>>2297500
Only the helmet but it doesn't have the same moving red glow in the visor as the S8 one.

I'd what they did this update but my frame rate is incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFOaUV3Hfqg
>won't question your motives, comes pre-agitated
love it

>>2300331
>more melee slop
sigh

>>2300861
yes, YES, give me more of your tears
rero rero rero rero rero rero rero

>>2300938
*spams 3 dashes away*

>>2300945
*winches and rapes you*
nothing personal

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>>2300861
you WILL get the 10 billionth sledge skin and you WILL enjoy it

>>2301165
It could be a new weapon. Not sure why they would show a skin in a teaser like that.

>>2301534
Because people have been begging for a medieval season for 2 years now, and it'd act as confirmation of that as well. It might also just be an extremely deluxe skin they'll be advertising for the Ultimate pass, like a single one that can alternate through different kill visual effects by inspecting it or whenever you do a head bonk.

If dash can have 3 charges then grapple should have 2 charges, but you spawn with only one and you get second charge after a moderate CD

>>2295988
>it's a cosmic season
cope and seethe, lil bitch
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1rzmlw7/spoiler_season_10_key_art/

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Cosmic cucks, your response?

>>2301587
>linking directly to r*ddit
kill yourself

>>2301587
>>2301605

>locked post
it was AI retards

>>2300946
by the time you start swinging post winch, i'll be long gone

>>2301731
>Embark uses AI themselves
>it's f-f-f-fake!
Retard, reddit mods can lock any posts on behalf of a company, including real leaks

You can tell who's from /vm/ and who's from /v/
If your first thought about a medieval season is "lol cosmic cucks seething" and not "whoa medieval season hell yeah," then you might be a brainrotted /v/irgin

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>>2301587
>>2301605
Lol. Lmao even

>Cosmic chads get actual details in the teaser
>Medieval cucks have to fake yet another leak, like they did with the Nordic map

>>2301605
If this is real then it looks like it's both? Look at the alien looking outfit on the left

https://youtube.com/shorts/78CWG-WqcKY

>>2301733
*hits you anyway*

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>>2301929
Right..

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I started playing in season 6 and since then it's the only FPS game I've been playing, I don't know how it has so few players even though it's one of the more enjoyable games.

But I really feel that over time only the sweaty players remain, and the casuals like me are slowly fading away, I don't know if I have the strength to survive another season like this, I really hope that season 10 will bring new and interesting content that will bring more players with it.

It's crazy that the same developers have 2 games, one of which barely has 5-15k daily players while the other has 50-250k.

2303976

reminder that with shitposters like this, you can search the text or image and usually find the r*ddit post they're just rehashing wholesale

>>2303981
then post a reference pic if you can find it, common courtesy.

>>2303981
That's heavy mains for you, always reposting their reddit takes here because they got assraped by bow light team in cashout, they're always crying about the state of the game since 99% of them are shitters getting stomped in every match

>hover pad
>on medium
why
it also looks super strong, it will be a must pick for most mediums and you will suffer CB/FCAR peeks from high up all the damn time
>shockwave
>medium spec
I mean, it's a spec but it's kinda lame imo
>crossbow
looks ok
>new map
>not a castle
>all ground floor bullshit fights
into the trash it goes

>>2303976
what are you even talking about the game caters more and more to casuals every season

>>2304299
They haven't shown a new map yet.

Massive leaks
https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddycontestant/s/fvotZ6kFvC

>>2305157
>>> Medium is going to get a fucking Rasengan, but a really shitty version of it
>>> The medieval faggotry is actually happening
OK, I've seen enough. S10 is going to be completely shit and keep The Finals irrelevant.
GG

>>2305207
but the leaks didn't show that they're adding Goku as well

>>2304299
>>2305157
>>2305207
Why are they giving med a hoverpad in a game where buildings routinely collapse on top of your head?.
if a cashbox that needs to be defended is inside a building, how is a hoverpad med going to be useful and not a niche throw pick of a specialization??

>>2305220
break the building

>>2305220
>if a cashbox that needs to be defended is inside a building
Nobody defends inner cashouts anymore grandpa, just fucking winch it out and play high ground, are you retarded??
Hover pad sounds very strong BUT the caveat is that you have to remove goo nades and goo nades are just too strong right now.

>>2304845
https://youtu.be/3EMJpKmRi5w?si=KkC4_DYr560LTtRg&t=107
it looks like a chivalry map so far, legit awful looking

>>2305207
>melee will suffer even more now
winched? just blast off
annoying sword light? blast off

honestly, I think it sucks, but the salt it will produce from melee fags makes it completly worth it

>>2305220
It looks like a more durable goo bridge. Combined with hoverpad it can give Medium some unexpected angles to hold the cashout from

>>2305255
It doesn't look like a new map. It looks like Medieval PEACE Center, and too small to be another "Fortune Stadium is just Stadium Seoul" situation.

>>2305363
yeah it really does just look like peace medieval but that also makes sense

>>2303202
>caring about AI voices in an FPS
Do redditors really?

>>2304299
>more poke ass cancer
>more high damage single shot slop
Why do these retarded devs make these decisions? Are they really this fucking stupid?
And that new map looks like ass lol

>>2305220
>inside cashouts
Nice self report lmao. Most indoor cashouts get winched outside by heavy shitters immediately. What kind of bot lobbies do you play in where this isn't a thing?

>>2305258
>but the salt it will produce from melee fags
Only reason to be even a little bit excited about S10 lol fuck melee

My favorite part about each season is that right on cue, there's always a sudden spike in posters that are overly contentious for no reason, don't carry any sort of discussion, and just insult other people/the game before fucking off for the next 3 months

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I wish we had this makeup as a face paint in the game.

We should be able to vote kick these retards who waste your revives in point break Holy fuck, we have 8 lives left, i have you in my hand i am retreating to revive you and you STILL coin. Fuck you, just one person doing this hinders the team so much

>>2305561
mf that's this thread in a nutshell, nothing new, not like the past 2 seasons had anything of note, we're reaching the 3 year mark here

>>2305363
that's even worse since peace centre is already a pretty mediocre map