I have never played with protective clothing on, do people actually do this? I always just go for maximum drip (wife beater + track pants or shorts).

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>>2282547
It's always been a noob trap. People will start in rosewood and run around in full firefighter gear in July.

Then people learn that defense literally does nothing because you can still get bitten through 5 layers of kevlar if the dice deems it so. So you're just better off just avoid damage all together

I always disable discomfort, what a retarded mechanic.

>>2282784
My problem with PZ balancing can be summed up like this: It's called comfort but there's only "discomfort"

Your only "reward" for doing stuff is reducing negatives. You can be tired but not well rested. Your character can be sad but never happy. Tired but never energised or well rested. You can get fatigued and panicked but not get a spike in adrenaline.

You get no satisfaction for excess. Sitting in a dark basement eating cold canned goods puts your character in the same straits as living like a prince eating gourmet meals

>>2282783
>t. brainlet that doesn't understand how probability works

>>2282815
The former will reduce your loading times for using/transfering/etc. items by down to half, the latter will have no effect
From the minds of the dev this is you managing a resource to prevent yourself from being debuffed
You also need to take specific perks to turn panic into a boon instead of a bane.

>>2282839
he is retarded but if people thought in probabilistic or statistical ways, they wouldnt gamble or get married or have unprotected sex etc.

>>2282783
>Then people learn that defense literally does nothing because you can still get bitten through 5 layers of kevlar if the dice deems it so
That happened to me once and I've never worn protective gear since then.

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>>2282844

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397396843

what the fuck happened?

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>>2283127
Tranny modders being dramatic sensitive lil fags, just the usual

>>2283142
>no forks or reuploads are permitted
what a massive nigger

>>2283142
>quitting out of spite
someone need to take over his shit, fuck his feelings lol

>>2282839
>brainlet that doesn't understand how material physics works
NGMI

>>2283142
>Do not create forks of my free passion project that I am officially killing
Total modder death when?
And I say that as a modder.

>>2283175
>brainlet that doesn't understand simple gamification concepts
NGMI

>>2283142
>WTF people want my passion project (that ideally I want working ingame because I made it to have more fun in the game) to actually work with the game it was made for???
>Fucking chuds! Bigots the lot of them! Fuck you! I am going to CANCEL the mod now!
>Not only that NOBODY CAN use the mod ever again for any purpose! REEEE!
What makes people do this sort of shit?
People on this dumbass site have called me crazy for saying that modding isn't about just making games more-fun while expecting no reward anymore.

>>2283142
What a fag.

>>2283152
>>2283156
>>2283213
astonishing lack of self-awareness from assmad shitposters lol
i expect nothing less from this general.

MODS.
ARE.
FREE.
CONTENT.
BY.
PASSIONATE.
PEOPLE.
CHUDDIES!
They don't fucking OWE you anything! Be GRATEFUL they even made the mod in the first place!
>Oh cool so anybody can pick up the mod and tinker with it to their heart's content, you surely approve of further passion of the arts, right?
SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN.

>>2283230
Yeah, you TELL EM sister! Fucking bigots don't understand us modders HAVE RIGHTS!
We OWN the mods we make, and no, intellectual property is theft as well, shut the fuck up! We do not approve of such Bourgeois beliefs!

>>2283230
Reminder that an Anon had his mod and modding privileges banned because of another faggot modmaker.

>>2283239
Oh hey, thanks for mentioning me.

>>2283230
NO ONE IS ILLEGAL ON STOLEN LAND, CHUD!
>Wow that's...Really honorable of you, you would freely share an entire fucking nation, I don't mean you any ill will, can I just borrow a couple lines of code from your free passion project-
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME YOU LTITLE BIGOT!? THAT'S TANTAMOUNT TO DEADNAMING A BILLION TRANSGENDER WOMEN!

>Be me
>Making forks of outdated HOI4 mods
>Literally not a single person ever has fucking messaged me about 'mod theft' or anything
>Forks a Men of War Assault Squad 2 defence mission pack
>Still nothing, nobody bitches at all
>HOI4 mod gets outdated
>"Hey dude can you fix the mod? The UI elements are out of place due to the recent update"
>Fixes mod
>"Thx, cool mod"
These fuckers are lying about getting 'toxicity' from people, just update the fucking mod and they'll chill the fuck out.
Why are you even making mods for a game which you fucking know is going to need updates every three weeks due to hotfixes spitefully fucking up every mod?
These niggers are making mods for clout and prestige, not passion.
Passionate people don't waffle-stomp their own creations out of spite.

so what npc mod are we going to use now? the bandit npc mod is very limited in what it can do compared to expanded

>>2283253
I immediately assume that the modmakers who freak out are actual trannies, it seems to be on point every time.

>>2282856
True, fair point
>>2283142
I had to look this guy up because I forgot who he was. Knox Event Expanded sucked ass compared to Slayer's Week One and was much harder to install but it makes me laff big that he's throwing such a big temper tantrum and not "allowing" forks.

>>2283287
I can only come to the same conclusion that they're mentally fucked up, probably trannies.
It's infuriating because modding used to be a fun enjoyable experience but modders had to fuck it all up by being the dumbest motherfuckers and the most spiteful of cowards.
And then the zomboid subpreddit fucking insists the random retarded commenters are the problem! Lol, lmao even.

>>2283286
Bandits and Week 1 have tons of forks and it's only getting better, I ditched KEE for it a while back. I just don't give that much of a shit at the end of the day for KEE's features because most of the mod was broken most of the time. At least Bandits works.
Maybe someone will just make a fork of KEE that doesn't suck and host it on modhq or something, but probably not.

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>>2283289
Mod culture started going downhill when it started becoming career paths for the mentally ill. When they started opening patreons and ko-fi's, and aggregator vendors like Steam and nexusmods started paying them money, and companies like Bethesda started paying them to rehost their content for profit. Because even ones who aren't making money off of their shit are paranoid that one day it could be their big break, and so covet it like a boomer clutching his Pre-86 machine guns hissing and spitting at laws challenging the Hughes Amendment.
This is from Ballfur's Gash 3's best and most controversial mod, it was a post that really resonated with me.

>>2283307
>Using nexus modder assets without their permission
Based.
Nexus is part of the reason modding is so shitty as of late. They're a business who wants to make money via mods, and the easiest way to get all the modders on your site is to give them illusionary privileges and rights so they can powertrip.

>>2283310
They had to "make up" for preventing them from completely deleting their mods due to the collections feature somehow, I guess
>Based
There's some history there too that makes it even funnier. Baldur's Better Aesthetics and Wyll's of Torril were originally pretty simple mods that replaced ugly niggers and bizarre looking pink haired orcs with decent looking player heads; Wylls of Torill was a completely new head model for Wyll (token black party member) coming in just about every flavor of DnD ethnicity. Both got screamed at, deleted, and their contributors permanently banned from moddb and nexus by the troon brigade. Realms Restored, no alphabets, and even better romances was the ultimate response to that; mods which could only be made by a bunch of people deciding collectively to just steal the trannies work and use it as material to make the mods they actually wanted to make with it in their own space.
Troons seethe about them to this very day. I really do think the only way modding is going to heal is for parallel mod communities to appear like this. Balkanization can't come fast enough.

>>2283320
>Uhm, if you don't like it CHUD, mod it out of the game
Okay.
>WHAT THE FUCK YOU CAN'T JUST MOD IT OUT OF THE GAME! MOD WEBSITES, BAN THIS CHUD RIGHT NOW!
And people wonder why they are universally despised like as if they were infectious vermin.

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>>2283142
>Please do not reupload, redistribute, or create derivative versions of the mod or its code
Snejk, I know you're reading this, and the internet has no obligation to follow through with your spiteful requests. Video game mods have zero legal protections in any country as far as I'm aware, so when you hit "submit" on the Steam workshop, that shit is out there. Forever.

You've already made a fool out of yourself, so as someone who earnestly likes your mod, I suggest that you hand over development to someone else and be done with it. Or don't, there's going to be forks within a few months anyway
>Pic unrelated

>>2283325
>Video game mods have zero legal protections in any country as far as I'm aware, so when you hit "submit" on the Steam workshop, that shit is out there. Forever.
Workshop TOS has mod ownership written-in.
You can't reupload it to the workshop as that breaks Steam TOS. But you can post it to ModDB or whatever.
I mean, until troonies brigade your mod with false DMCA requests and the website shitcans your account because it's not worth the legal hassle. Basically legal mafia-style protection rackets.

does booze cause weight gain? i drank a whole bottle of rum when i was chilling inside waiting for the helicopter event to fire, and i got a single chevron that lasted over 24 hours. i had been eating a lot before that, but i was inside for almost 2 days and all i had was the booze and a couple salad bowls.

>>2283421
Depends on how much you drink, alcohol is usually very high in calories.

>>2283421
Booze has a lot of calories IRL and ingame.

>>2283422
>>2283424
awesome, now i will stockpile all the liquor in the game.

>>2283438
Get a water collector, add about 3% of it's capacity in alcohol, and the rest with soda and purified water (make sure at least 51% water).
Congrats you now have 600 liters of 'battle brew', which makes you immune to pain, panic and stress/unhappiness. Plus it'll give you calories and reduce your fatigue.

>>2283441
How does that work if you fill up a bottle/canteen with the contents?

>>2283447
When you fill your bottle/canteen from the 600 liters of battlebrew, your bottle has the same proportions as the container.
So you don't need to worry about proportions, just grip and sip.

>>2283450
That sounds fantastic, I'll do that if I ever play again.

>>2283457
Wrong thread anon.
>>2283458
Its so retarded because drinking 3% vodka all day would still make you fucked up lmao.

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>They use mods

>>2283142
>>2283179
Maybe I'm just a an oldfag at this point, but modding used to be almost synonymous with open source to me. This isn't the first time lately I've seen modders guard their works like this and I can only surmise its because this generation thinks of it solely as a CV exercise or are trying to turn it into a living through e-begging. Like why wouldn't you let people make forks or derivatives otherwise?

>>2283502
See >>2283307

>>2283253
>'toxicity'
It's a lugenpresse word unless you're genuinely getting harassed IRL with tons of pizzas sent to your house. When it comes to those insane faggots, look up the Dartmouth scar experiment.

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>>2283320
>Troons seethe about them to this very day.
They're mentally ill spiritual-jihadi cry-bullies, see picrel. I've personally multiple times had those freaks follow me around wherever they can and mass-report everything I post.

>>2283518
>Reddit is not a free speech zone
I don't think I've seen a reddit mod actually be honest about that before, that's kind of impressive.

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>>2283518
Dude, holy shit

>>2283142
>thanks to everyone who played and supported me over the years also fuck you lol dont ever touch my mod again

>>2282497
>take measures to ensure your safety
>weighted diceroll still fucks you
This game is a fuckin joke lmao

>>2283142
>lil bitch thinks he owns code
Nah fucko we reuploading

>>2283518
>spiritual-jihadi
do not call them spiritual jihadis this implies they have the mental strength to do anything actual jihadists do

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>>2283631
True, it's just a convenient term to describe their join my sect or die mentality. All egalitarians are like this.

I made a mod for 1998's Trespasser which is basically just the entire game plus cut levels, with heaps of other shit uncut along with balance changes, improved graphics/AI/etc.
I didn't give a single fuck when another person used it as a basis for their own mods.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/zeno-trespasser-fanbuilds

>>2283142
some people weren't ever meant to interact with the internet

>>2283230
you work for free and everybody still hates you lol

>>2283286
None because NPCs are annoying as fuck and will never be implemented properly even with developer support.
If you want to at minimum put NPC’s into the game then the PZ devs need to overhaul the entire combat system, injury system, and PVP in general.
right now PvP is atrocious.
>get hit with plank during melee pvp
>somehow get a deep wound on the neck
>bleed out in 20 seconds and die because you can’t stop to stitch your wound or bandage it.
or
>sprint at a player and instantly crit them with a spear
>if you miss the other player can just spam shove you and stomp your head in like a zombies.
or
>all PvP gunfights end up just being whoever gets the first shot/having higher aiming winning, only cover is solid walls, no ducking and diving behind solid objects to avoid being seen or hit.

I don’t get how people enjoy PvP in this game, maybe it’s just a power fantasy thing where they grind for ~300 hours levelling up aiming just to randomly stalk and fire at people with a rifle.

I updated and loaded my old save and my character was naked with every bone in their body broken and they died instantly.

Very cool!

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>>2284261
>play the unstable build
>your bone structure becomes unstable

>>2284261
Zombonitis.
What a tragedy.

>>2284114
>mad because bad

>>2284114
>I don’t get how people enjoy PvP in this game, maybe it’s just a power fantasy thing where they grind for ~300 hours levelling up aiming just to randomly stalk and fire at people with a rifle.
It's literally just the power-trip to know you just wasted tens of hours of another person's IRL life.
That's all there is to it.
>Lol I killed that retard who didn't even fight back because they had that suicidal thing called empathy, wait why is he not rejoining the server? What the fuck this is textbook PvEfag behavior, why doesn't he want to get killed again and again!?

>>2284261
>opt in to unstable build
>its unstable
:o

>>2284997
>Too cowardly to take responsibility for anything, so calls it 'responsibility'less build'
>They don't take responsibility

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>>2284261
the average joe in 90s kentucky had an extreme variation of glass bones

>>2284114
im sure Indie Stone can do all that before they release stage 1 NPCS in 2089 anon

>>2284114
>Get into PvP brawl
>All hits cause stuns, so it's literally whoever hits first, and most importantly whoever has fastest swing rate
>Meaning you'll get naked bix noods running around KO'ing people with prison shanks and head stomps
My sides.

>>2284261
THIS IS HOW YOU DIED.

>>2284114
It's perfectly fine for PVP to be atrocious. Zomboid attempts to be minimally "game-y" as far as presentation goes. If you get hit with a machete, you should die. Yes, that means if you're in a machete fight and the other guy hits first, you are the one who dies. Get over it.

Same with bullets. PvP is exactly how PvP should be: You get shot in the head, you're dead, idiot. Don't get hit by a machete to the neck, moron.

That said, I think a double-tap-shift to dodge roll/fast rise to your feet from prone would be a great addition.
Staple a massive endurance cost onto it so you get exhausted if you try it 3 or 4 times, so it's fine. Also staple being able to do it in a timely manner to Nimble.

>>2285776
So you’re telling me that I can deflect hits from zombies with melee, (incl using long blunts to shove in a special way) but not attempt to block melee hits during PvP especially if I have my melee skills leveled up? Fencing, and other martial arts exist too.
>you get shot in the head you’re dead
People have had grazing shots in the ear, do they instantly die? They don’t obliterate anything they instantly touch, just saying. Ballistics are funny sometimes and .22’s end up being deadlier then 5.56x45mm bullets in some cases.

>>2285776
>If you get hit with a machete, you should die
Actual talented swordsmen would have shields, parry attacks, dodge, etc.

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Is planks > handles > dice the best way to grind whittling? It got me through like five levels in a day but holy shit is this tedious

>>2286247
Sticks, small handles, spoons, forks.
The developers are massively retarded by not adding a simple 'train with skill' recipe which destroys the materials.
Because you always end up with literally hundreds of useless trash items laying around.

>>2286244
Actual talented swordsmen don't exist in 1993 Kentucky. Fedora larpers and Steven Seagal tier boomers don't count.

>>2286415
After hacking away at zombies for IRL months you'd learn a thing or two about using blades both offensively and defensively.

>>2286417
They're just zombies, you'd learn the absolute basics at best.

>>2286417
You'd still have trouble not bleeding out afterwards even if you win the fight

>>2286427
Zomboid characters can patch up jugular injuries with bandaids.

>>2286433
That doesn't help much if you get three new ones in the time it takes to bandage one because you chose to bandage your wounds instead of fighting back

>>2286441
IIRC can't there only be a single wound of any type in a single bodypart?

>>2286446
I think so, but it knocks your bandage off if you get a new one on that part

>>2286244
>Actual talented swordsmen would have shields, parry attacks, dodge, etc.
Sure, I wouldn't be against adding some kind of HEMA system to the game. Keep it simple though, basic parries at least.

I still think that complaining about zomboid PVP is ridiculous. It's not a PVP game, it's a realistic survival game. If someone shoots you from a window before you see them, you die. Stealth, ambush and tactics are how the PVP plays out, like it would in reality, not rapier duels.

>>2286596
And that's why nobody is going to play PvP except sociopaths. But then they'll throw a hissyfit over the server being full of sociopaths.

>>2286600
There is little motivation to do pvp except if you're a sociopath. Most people don't want to ruin someone's day just because they can. My question is, what keeps pvp servers going? Is it veterans killing new players who promptly leave the server and never come back or is it the same 10 autists killing each other over and over? Both doesn't seem very fun

>>2286607
>Is it veterans killing new players who promptly leave the server and never come back or is it the same 10 autists killing each other over and over?
It's both of these.

>>2286609
There is no real reason to do either of that except if you want to feel edgy
>it's the apocalypse, very little humans left, the most logical thing for survivors to do is to brutally murder each other on sight
Not even americans are that insane. It goes against every human instinct of survival. That's also why I stopped watching shows like TWD. It's unrealistic atrocity porn, it has nothing to do with reality. There are far better games to do pvp in, why are people using the SURVIVAL game with the cute racoon mascot for that if they didn't already torture small animals as a child

>Design game with fuckload of environmental and lore restrictions
>WTF players are pissed off our game has no long-term goals and that lore has nothing to do with the gameplay!???
It's worse than shooting yourself in the foot, at least that can happen by accident. It's like shooting yourself in the back of the head.
If zomboid was actually designed from the ground up to have future potential
>Fictional environment even if areas and based on real places, so have coastlines, islands, army bases, a volcano or something I dunno
>Looser lore which actually applies to certain locations. Town got nuked, need gas mask to enter it in a localised area or you get AIDS and die. Army base experimented with zombie virus so there's fucking sprinters there instead of shamblers. Certain areas literally get exploded as there are airstrikes scheduled, stay clear.
>Fuckload of dumb little missions that might not be the most stimulating compared to Morrowind or something, but still gives the player something to do. Find all X pieces of a map that leads you to buried treasure. Clear an area and somebody gives you their special gun. Restore a certain car because it's the only one able to make a jump to a special location, etc

>Everybody complaining about building decay being too fast

>Nobody talking about how, if an apocalypse actually happened in Kentucky, Kudzu would devour the entire state within weeks.

>>2286989
I don't recall Kudzu being car-stopping saplings.

>>2286993
In 1993 it was much stronger, I guess all the GMOs and greenhouse gasses have weakened foliage.

>>2286622
Are you retarded?
Humans killing another tribe of humans on a survival setting is literally the most regular shit that ever happened in the known history of humanity
what the fuck dude

>>2287627
>I want to be an unevolved uncivilized nigger ape forever, I love war actually, It's totally natural, we've always done it hurr durr I'm a neanderthal
People won't lose their socialization as civilized humans over night. That's propaganda. That's what the people who bomb schools and fuck kids want you to think because they lost theirs

>>2287766
>People won't lose their socialization as civilized humans over night.
lol nigger
After 48hours without electric energy regular people turn into medieval ransacker
This literally happened and was already studied over and over again even in modern society.

>>2287780
When there's a small scale disruption. Not when there's a world ending cataclysm. As I said, that's a narrative told by the people who are still unevolved nigger apes now, throwing bombs at little kids. The vast majority of people would cooperate. Raiders and cannibals are a projection. It's not realistic. It's how we treat each other now in late stage capitalism. Look at warzones and disaster zones. Mutual Aid networks are the first thing that pop up organically and then usually get squashed by the nigger ape factions that you love so much

>>2287806
>Look at warzones and disaster zones
huh you mean israel forces raping iran civil people and also the other way around too? Maybe the baby killings? Or something else

>>2287891
>the other way around too
lolwut. The only organized rape happening is by israelis. Same with baby killings. They're proud of it and the rapists are TV personalities now. They're the neanderthals I was talking about. Iranian soldiers aren't even close enough to any israelis to rape them. Hamas rape is also a lie and a projection by israel, who have documented places where serial rape happens to this day. Shooting a rocket isn't rape, or are you some kind of ESL using rape as general term for violence? Being a disgusting violent rapist at the first opportunity is not the norm for humans, as much as israelis want you to think it is. What do you think will happen when those disgusting pedo enemies of mankind are inevitably defeated? How do you think the survivors of their decade long opression will react to any new outbreaks of this unevolved animalistic behaviour? Theres a reason raiders and cannibals are the lowest tier enemies in every apocalypse game. They're the dumbest motherfuckers around who reverted to base instincts at the first sign of hardship. There wouldn't be very many of them and they would be dealt with in the first few months of the happening, because they are dumb apes. They wouldn't manage to form a threatening faction.

>>2287780
Those scenarios
1: Don't have massive literal 90% casualties within a week depopulation levels, leaving behind months to YEARS worth of resources freely available
2: Don't have fuckloads of literal zombies running around requiring teamwork to overcome
Zombie apocalypses having 'human raiders' is retarded on two accounts, firstly why would they 'raid' when they have everything they want already. And secondly why raid when working together gets even MORE resources.

>>2287944
I could understand the very occasional pure psychopath faction, but it would not be some retarded shit like the walking dead where every other person is going to kill you, rape you, and then turn your intestines into bow strings and if you're very lucky they'll do it in that order. Nothing but pure murderporn.

>>2283156
If you were capable of this you wouldn't be begging trannies to do the work in the first place lmao

>>2287921
ok goy

>>2288097
Sir, this the apocalypse. There are no jews here. We can't afford them. Try later, when we have capital again

>>2287944
It makes sense in Project Zomboid because for some reason hardware stores only had like 10 nails and no tools

>>2288191
Why would raiders attack people who have nothing to give them, when there's a very real chance they have a snubnose .38 revolver and will fuck you up majorly?
"Muh raiderz" only works in scenarios where there's large amounts of resources isolated with few individuals. Which doesn't actually happen in most scenarios.

>>2288196
>when there's a very real chance they have a snubnose .38 revolver
this is project zomboid universe the odds they have a gun are about the same as someone having a nuclear bomb or a wood saw

>>2288265
Guns are not too hard to come by (especially now), the issue the game had was the complete lack of ammo for them.
IRL there's metric fuckloads of ammo per gun, hundreds of rounds of ammo at least.

>Weapons and Ammo have been increased from Rare to Often
>Everything else have been increased Rare to Normal
Basically my normal settings.

>>2288364
Rare to Common*
Why would I even type Often when that's clearly for other settings than loot.

>>2287997
Don't worry, that's only the evil monoracial factions, the diverse factions with tons of niggers, fags and lesbians and a couple jeets and jews will be cooperating without any issues as we all know.

This game needs bees.

>>2288423
Yes, unironically. You whiny babies can't even run things online lmao

HOLY SHIT BROS THEY CHANGED THE DEFAULT GAME SETTINGS THAT CAN BE CHANGED AT ANY TIME IN THE SANDBOX MODE!!!!
GAME IS SAVED

>>2288518
The developers finally realizing their game is nonsensical and retarded is a good start to making the game better.
If they identified that literally fucking nobody plays on default settings because they're utter dogshit to play, they can move forwards to identifying other things.

>>2288518
>GAME IS SAVED
This, but unironically. The new game modes are a vast improvement.

>Walk around in the forest for 10 days
>become the world's foremost expert on foraging
Balanced.

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>>2288518
Yes. Going from picrel's faggotry to an ex-military who just wants the game to be fun is a massive improvement.

>>2288699
Theres nothing wrong with the post in that pic you assmad retard lmao, he even talks about le fun, just like you, you baby

>>2286622
>>2287627
>>2287766
I’m just hoping when NPC’s are dropped that they aren’t mindless murder hobos you just immediately kill and never interact with further.
It’d be neat if there was a refreshed copy of CDDA’s base camp system where you can just load NPC’s into it, throw food into a pile, the base camp “consumes” the food giving you a total calorie budget (temporary if the food is perishable) and you can assign tasks like cutting trees down, building new structures, farming/hunting/foraging, or cooking meals as long as there are resources.

>>2288699
>TFW the tranny zomboid janny called all modes non-canon
>Only for an ex-Military Chud to become his boss and then make a canon mode
Lmao

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>>2288743
I do love how guys like him and Bukele (and Hitler but don't let the jannies see this) show after so many years of leftists producing nothing but dogshit that the answer to every problem is "what if we applied common sense instead of commie faggotry?".

I think Zomboid is the best game ever made and it continues to get better, even if development is slow.

>>2288845
if aliens came down to earth tomorrow and you showed them Project Zomboid as the pinnacle of human entertainment, they would vaporize the entire planet

>>2288856
>if aliens came down to earth tomorrow and you showed them Project Zomboid as the pinnacle of human entertainment, they would vaporize the entire planet
And that's a good thing.

>>2288928
Shalom!

>Can't make needles out of fishbones
>Actually can't get anything from fish aside from fillets
Imagine reworking the entire fish system and leave out random shit that should be ingame.
Fish-heads/frames for soups/broth.
Bones for needles.
At least they added fish guts, but you can't use them unless you have sand.
Sand which apparently is a non-renewable resource for some dumbass reason.

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>>2287766
>he doesn't know

>>2290390
>replies to a post that already pointed out propaganda
>posts more obvious propaganda
/pol/ pls go. We don't care.

>>2290398
>everything I don't like is propaganda >:c

>>2290390
Whites killing niggers isn't barbarism or raider-like behavior.
It's what used to be considered 'right and proper' vermin disposal.

>>2290399
take your quirky chungus emoji to reddit where they belong you gay israeli

>>2290403
>everything I don't like is reddit and jewish >:c

>>2290404
No, just you and your cringe emoji. Why do we deserve such faggotry? You're not even saying anything. You didn't refute any of my points with your gay /pol/ screenshot. All you do is prance around like a faggot winking and smiling at people

>>2290413
>I'm too stupid to extrapolate information, called it propaganda, and am now seething because of an emoticon >:c

>>2290423
No, the information was just stupid and is refuted by the first sentence of the first reply to an anon several posts above you, but you're too dumb to realize that. We talked about all of that before you arrived with your dimwit filth. What are you even doing here? You should remigrate. Go back, we're full.

>>2290434
>It's stupid because I said so (I can't explain why) and I have no actual rebuttal >:c

>>2290434
go to bed, Lemmy

I don't even have a horse in this race and think your chimp out is embarassing. Lemmy tier meltdown, get a fucking grip.

>>2282497
I uninstalled lmao

LMAO, it's another 'Chuds aren't creative enough to make anything good and cry and shit and piss when the liberals who produce their entertainment want to take a break' episode

>>2290457
>>2290459
>no arguments
You people are just here to waste space and consume, you're worse than niggers

>>2290480
A chud just became the boss of TIS and made more change in 2 weeks than the trannies at TIS have done in 6 years.

>>2290488
That's a normie. Some would even call him a chad. That's the opposite of a chud. You're full of shit lol

>>2290496
>Uhm ackshually a normie outcompeted the trannies at TIS in 2 weeks
That's even more embarrassing.

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>You people are just here to waste space and consume, you're worse than niggers

>>2290480
Stop vagueposting, who are you replying to?

>vagueposting
That wasn't vague at all, you're just too dumb, like I said. Thanks for confirming.

So, now with more free time due to some normie doing his job for him, Lemmy is shitposting on 4chan more?

>>2290507
Yes it was, I guess you just wanted attention. Here's your (You).

>>2290508
Seems so, what a guy.

Damn, there really are some dumb motherfuckers in these threads. It's embarassing. Those are probably the pvp chuds lol

>>2290524
Nobody here really plays PvP because that'd imply working multiplayer, which is not the case for most of this game's development.

>>2290524
no one gives a fuck about multiplayer we want the NPCs roadmapped about 20 years ago

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>>2290496
>The ex-military is not a chud despite my xisters saying that every single cop (and the military are much worse) is a power-hungry fascist chud holding up a tyrannical fascist government

>>2290598
>Leftists outright pretend to not understand, to win internet arguments
Still makes way too much sense

>>2290599
Yep, it's always the case. The big issue with naive teenagers is that they believe in debates, when they almost never work for several reasons: most people actually do not care for debates and are only convinced by propaganda and social pressure, making any intellectual discourse wasted on them; most people argue from their biological standpoint, you will almost never convince another race or a woman to care about the Aryan race or men by debating; egalitarians will just lie, they do not believe in shared truth or truth itself, they believe that their end justifies all means and that includes lying through their teeth constantly.

You can try to debate antifas for decades, and all you get is a bullet to the throat in broad daylight.

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So ignoring whatever bullshit is happening in this thread, what's new with PZ since the last thread?

>>2290603
Thanks to ex-military chud who complained about the antifa retardedness of the devs in his first blog: loot has been buffed heavily, including guns and ammo; the default gamemodes have been heavily changed, the canon mode now has disabled respawns and we have an "extinction mode" with some percentage of sprinters; 4 new guns have been added to the game.

>>2290598
>>2290599
you're a bunch of schizo losers who can't create anything but tears about not being fed enough entertainment. Basement dwelling eternal teenagers who can't stop crying because you're inept at everything you do, a bunch of entitled losers. Nobody cares what you think. Go ahead, call me Lemmy or leftist or anything to make you feel.better about your miserable consumer cuck life lol

>>2290603
a zogbot is in charge and basically you're fucking stupid

>>2290606
>you're a bunch of schizo losers
Grok what race has the most mental issues?
>Jews
Wait a minute. Projection!?

>muh anteeeeefa
>muh marxism
I knew there were some fucking embarassing boomers here but please stahp, the cringe is too much.

Pretty funny though how the worst losers grasp at straws about how a 'chud' works at indie stone now, that says a lot about how childish they are

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>>2290612

I wish they would just talk to grok instead of annoying anyone else

>Butcher entire cow
>3 steaks, 11 hunger each

>Butcher baby rabbit
>4 pieces of rabbit meat, 30 hunger each

Curious...

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Alright, time to fumigate the thread a little bit.

>>2290704
>IRL actual genocides performed by governments
>Starve niggas until they drop dead, leave them where they are or bury them in a ditch
>Or just shoot them and then bury them
>Literally can't go 5 feet in the jungle in Cambodia without finding human skulls and bones lmao
>Jewish fanfiction 'genocide'
>Oh they put us all into huge camps in the thousands or tens of thousands even! And then they...Fed, clothed, housed and treated us for disease!
>But dastardly Nazis they were, they were actually killing us! They put us in showers which were actually lethal gas chambers, by some miracle water came out instead of gas though
>And then they went through all the effort of incenerating us, mashing up our bones and dumping them in a river....No we won't tell you where they dumped the bones! What do you mean no bone fragments were recovered in any of the rivers!?

>>2290707
Oy vey, it's illegal to dig up that mass grave to look for remains! Believe all victims! Please buy this book about a fictitious jewish girl which every teacher in your life will swear up and down is all true!

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>>2290707
>Literally can't go 5 feet in the jungle in Cambodia without finding human skulls and bones lmao
Oy vey

>>2290715
It's always shoes with those weirdos...

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>>2290718
Which is hilarious because it comes from the Soviets conquering a camp that was a shoe making and repair factory, and claiming every single pair of shoes was an assassinated jew.

>That one youtuber who got banned from the discord community because he said he didn't like B42's launch still hasn't made a video about the game
Credit where it's due, he has principles.

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>2283518
Project Zomboid?

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I LOVE AMPHORA JUNGLE JUICE!!!!!

>>2291730
Can't you just use, like, a barrel? Who's building classical pottery in modern day Kentucky?

>>2291954
>Who's building classical pottery in modern day Kentucky?
Everyone who isn't a master carpenter? You can't just 'use' a barrel, barrels are from the lands of myth and fantasy.
>>2291379
Yes Zomboid, specifically the developers.

Just found out spears have a sprint attack, using this garbage all the time now. 100% going to die when it misses and I get locked in the stab animation

>>2292119
The sprint attack will absolutely get you killed lmao.

[happy news]its over

>>2292119
>100% going to die when it misses and I get locked in the stab animation
No guts, no glory.
Just don't miss, idiot.

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>want try the game again after 1 year not touching it
>bicycle mode still not updated to last unstable patch
shit

>>2292614
When Zomboid gets Bicycles and Horses in vanilla, the game will be complete.

>>2292616
"complete"
but a major improvement indeed
funny thing the guy who made the bicycle/skate is also working on the horse mod
he is based

>>2292619
>funny thing the guy who made the bicycle/skate is also working on the horse mod
>he is based
Killer content desu. I think the bike physics are fucked up but it's a good mod.

Pets like cats and dogs would be nice. I'd rather they complete the wildlife and core features instead of adding NPCs.

What is it with yuroniggers and their obsession for bikes? I hope their run ends with them getting pulled off and eaten trying to bike past the zombies

Bikes are a no brainer.
>faster than walking
>don't need gas
>less maintenance
>can still carry stuff with baskets

Been playing B41 for like 70 ish hours, should I give B42 a go?

Is the muscle strain system as bad as people make it out to be?

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>>2292714
muscle strain was barely an issue, only retarded noobs complained about it (or people who start games with no strength and 0 weapon stats)

also the new unstable patch nerfed the strain by 30% on the default setting, so its even less of an issue

>>2292733
Only took them 15 months...
Say, are calories fixed yet?

Is the performance improved in B42? In B41 atleast, while driving I get quite a bit of stuttering. I've increased the ram usage through the json file.

>>2292714
>Is the muscle strain system as bad as people make it out to be?
It WAS as bad as people make it out to be, but it's been balanced fairly well since.

Big, heavy melee weapons still ruin your arms. Don't go around swinging sledgehammers at zombies and you'll be fine.

>>2292824
>Say, are calories fixed yet?
No.

>Still no sandbox option for adjusting the black hole that is Zomboid Protagonist's gut.
It will never be fixed.

>>2292673
It would be a great addition but easily balanced by not being able to be used offroad (or, at least, requiring rare "dirt bikes" instead of city bikes for that) and having a trip chance if you try to leap off them quickly while being swarmed.

B41 or B42 for multiplayer?

>>2292933
41

How do you guys keep playing after you die and you start all over? Especially after a long-term run.
What stops you from going to the same base location you had before?
Or forgetting where everything is so you can rediscover locations rather than "Oh the gun store is in the next town, I'll go straight there"?

>>2293489
I generally drop the game for a good six months if a long lasting character dies.
The game is 99% skill grind and 1% actual gameplay.
To date nobody has 'genuinely' got level 10 fitness, electrical, or first aid.

>>2293489
I usually just start a new save when Im playing
But thats also just because I usually play cdda when playing single player

>>2283253
What actually happened is someone disagreed with their opinion so they pulled their mod out of spite. Happens everytime to american politicsbabbies.

>>2293504
>To date nobody has 'genuinely' got level 10 fitness, electrical, or first aid.
Its only been 14 years, give the devs some time to work on expanding and polishing the skill system.
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/0.2.0a

>>2293883
Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that anybody has sincerely got level 10 sprinting or lightfooted either.
Whats the point of having skills that you can't even max out?
It's not a matter of 'oh well you put all your efforts into carving wood so no wonder you can't have maxxed lightfooted'
It's a literal 'you could train nothing but lightfooted for IRL months and still not have it maxxed out'.

>>2286622
Well the logical thing to do would be to take them as sex slaves but the game doesn't let us do that.

>>2287944
Have you ever seen how normies treat those outside their groups?
Make no mistake, senseless violence against those that aren't part of 'the tribe' is fundamental human nature. It's not logical, it's primal. They don't do it for a reason, any more than they hate outsiders for a reason. They do it because that's how they're programmed.

>>2293504
At least in B41, I don't think it changed, first aid can easily be trained by walking on broken glass and continuously removing the shards. It's going to cripple your character for a while but it's doable. The other skills though, yeah that's never happening.

>>2293896
>first aid can easily be trained by walking on broken glass and continuously removing the shards
That's not sincerely.

>>2293899
Sure but it's actually doable. Sprinting/nimble/fitness/electrical... are laughably impossible.

>>2292933
41, less bugs that could ruin the fun or outright break the server.

>>2293504
>I generally drop the game for a good six months if a long lasting character dies.
Yeah, I just had this happen to me and I can't be bothered to play right away again. If I did, I'd just do everything the same again.

>>2294017
If the game had a save/load function I'd probably play it a lot more.
But as-is? If you die, just drop the game until a major patch shows up, because grinding skills is just a chore.

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Lol, lmao even

>>2294025
I can't believe zomboid will require two 5090s to run going forward.

>>2294025
What happened to the guy at top right?

>>2294036
Turned into a table. That is how he died.

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>>2294038

>>2294038
kek

>>2294025
>>2294038
New Features: Completely organic and voiced human NPCs made by AI
Bugs: NPCs and players may sometimes turn into objects around them. Back up your saves!

>>2294025
>sovl vs soulless

Guns and their ammo spawns are finally not dogshit anymore. Still, I hope the new chud in charge will fix the issues with calories being fucked, zeds killed via guns taking something like 2 entire seconds to become lootable for no reason after they already stopped moving, and the eternal weird shit that makes it so every time a zed becomes a crawler, it freezes the entire game for half a second.

>>2294025
I figure this is actually the future of rendering.
Obviously this first instance is shit slop garbage, but if a pipeline where low-poly base rendering given detail by AI can be put together for lower VRAM than shit like ray tracing, it's reasonable step to take.

The current implementation of "Just shit slop all over art direction." won't go anywhere though. It needs to be integrated into the art direction pipeline.

Likely prohibitively expensive to have neural net engineers working on graphics to get specific desired looks. i predict a split, where AAA studios go the slop route by outsourcing the sloppification to contractors, while small studios stick to traditional graphics.

>>2294586
>I hope the new chud in charge will fix the issues with calories being fucked

>Spend the entire day eating
>The act of spending a day eating consumes all the calories you ate during the day.
Yeah this needs a fix.

>>2294825
They need 2 RTX5090's just to power this slop. It's never going to be viable when you could run about 100 copies of Crysis on those two GPU's.

>>2294873
>They need 2 RTX5090's just to power this slop. It's never going to be viable when you could run about 100 copies of Crysis on those two GPU's.
First, you can't. Crysis is entirely single-thread, at max settings it still shits on even the highest end of new hardware.

Second, AAA developers hold to the firm belief that advances in technology will cover up their incompetence and laziness. "We can develop for this now, since by the time it releases the tech will catch up." mindset.

>>2294876
Thanks ChatGPT, I appreciate it.

>>2294881
It's not only that you're wrong about me being ChatGPT — but also about your view of the gaming industry.

>>2294886
Look at the reaction to RTX and advanced UE5 features.
Games are literally advertising "NO NANITE OR LUMEN!" as beneficial traits for their game.
It's not going to be long before devs start going "Rasterized lighting, just like the old times!" and shit.

>>2294890
You oversetimate the intelligence of AAA studio heads. They would rather their company die than admit they were wrong.

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>>2294895

>Eat three (3) roasts of 80 hunger each
>eat a 30-hunger stir fry after
>Then a 25-hunger salad

>STILL losing weight
holy fuck fuck this shit what the fucking FUCK dude

>>2294935
A lot of food substances give massive hunger but few calories.
Eat a 20 kilogram fish and you should be in the green.
Yes, I am aware that eating 20 kilograms of anything would actually kill a person if eaten in a single day.

>>2294937
>A lot of food substances give massive hunger but few calories.
>Eat a 20 kilogram fish and you should be in the green.
The roasts were half fish and game mate. It's FUCKED. Calories are FUCKED right now.

>>2294940
Eat even more.

>>2294950
I ate another 70 hunger roast and two more fruit salads and that did it.
You could have unironically fed five families for how much one (1) zomboid protagonist devours.

>>2294954
It's all because the character can foolishly go into the negatives calories-wise. Which is nonsensical. The human body has energy, or it loses weight. There's no 'negative calorie' state.
You can go all the way down to -2200 calories, which means you could eat a whole fucking pound of butter and barely get into the green.

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>>2294959
>You can go all the way down to -2200 calories, which means you could eat a whole fucking pound of butter and barely get into the green.

>>2294965
It's retarded because all they had to do was have positive calorie counts stop weight loss, 0 calories cause weight loss, and excess calories at the end of the day add weight based on the actual mass those calories would do.

>>2294876
>Second, AAA developers hold to the firm belief that advances in technology will cover up their incompetence and laziness
That's utter bullshit. The games don't lag and freeze and have shitty FPS because the hardware is "not there yet", they suck at those because the fundamental code is such dogshit nothing can run it. It's like giving the perfect marathoner diet to a guy without legs.

>Bump back of car into a wall/zombie/another car
>-20 carry space for trunk
I am finding it fucking doubtful that a small bump is going to crumple the rear of a car sufficiently that an entire jerry-can, can no longer fit in the back.
Doubly so for 90's fully-steel 'lmao fuck crumple zones' cars.

You know a game is 'good' when it's so poorly documented and changes are made patch to patch behind the scenes that nobody knows how any mechanic ingame actually works.

>>2294935
Just eat something with lots of calories retard, like peanut butter.

>>2295336
anon, the dev's main goal is to fuck the player as hard as possible

>>2294020
you can save single player games manually. Go to C:/Users/[Username]/Zomboid/Saves ,back up that folder somewhere and copy it back in when you die. Done, you loaded a save.

Complain about mechanics if you like, they're shit even if they're getting better
but complaining about permadeath in a roguelike...lol

>>2295558
>but complaining about permadeath in a roguelike...lol
Most roguelikes aren't designed like WoW level grinds.
You don't need to play FTL for 3 IRL months to get a skill increased to a high level.

>>2295569
I still think that standart x1 skill leveling is slow and stupid.
Especially in skills like carving.

>>2294828
>>The act of spending a day eating consumes all the calories you ate during the day.
It's missing getting muscle strain from the character moving their jaw to chew food.

>>2295558
>roguelike

>>2295558
>roguelike
Zomboid needs deckbuilding elements desu.

>>2295366
>Eating non-perishables
ngmi
those are for hoarding while you complain about not getting enough calories from snail roasts

>>2295711
traits are basically like perk cards from 76

>>2295366
Peanut butter is for traps.

>>2294935
hunger =/= calories
you see a long time ago PZ had no calories or nutrition. it just had a hunger system; line go up, line go down.
then one day, they said REALISM. so they added Calories and elements of a nutrition system, like protein, carbohydrates and fat. because REALISM. but they left the hunger system in place too. so now you can get hungry a few hours after eating 4000 calories. in fact you are hungry almost all the fucking time, because the legacy system hasnt really been updated in years. but hunger has NOTHING TO DO with calories or weight. and if you run around and kill zombies you will be demolishing calories so fast you can barely keep up.
basically, dont worry about hunger or calories, until you drop below 75 weight. then, eat a shitload of calories until you get a chevron. then eat fat until you get double chevrons. then dont do anything. don't even fucking walk around because that will murder your weight gain. dont craft. read books and watch VHS and eat more if you lose a chevron. when you get to 82-83 you can stop and go back to playing the game.
you see its REALISTIC.

>>2295865
That would be good if it were correctly balanced though. 1000 calories of ice cream will keep you full for half an hour whereas 1000 calories of celery is more than you would want to eat in a week. All they need to do is unfuck the values.

>>2295865
>>2295925
Literally just fucking delete the Hunger system entirely and tie the Hunger moodle to calories.

Weight going down? Hungry moodle appear. It's that easy.

>>2295865
You cannot lose weight IRL if you literally eat food all day to the point of being unable to eat another bite.

>>2295973
ever heard of rabbit starvation?

No more B41
https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/92891-important-security-updates/

>>2295987
What the fuck are they doing to have this many vulnerabilities

>>2296040
it's 12 years worth of spaghetti code made by retards, what do you expect

>>2295968
It makes sense to have them decoupled in a survival sim. You shouldn't be able to eat nothing but peanuts and candy, stay full, and not be morbidly obese.

>>2296068
>It makes sense to have them decoupled in a survival sim. You shouldn't be able to eat nothing but peanuts and candy, stay full, and not be morbidly obese.
Okay so do literally what reality does. Parse calories accurately into Fats, Proteins and Carbs (rather than having Calories be separate) and have ill effects for them being unbalanced (or if that's too annoying to track, any given one of them being low)

Fuck it, here's what I would do:

>Fats
>Proteins
>Carbs
>Vitamins
"Calories" are just a sum of the four.

Have the window for losing/gaining weight be adjusted based on the ratios.
Perfectly even, the window to keep the same weight ranges from, say, 500 to 4000 calories.
Excess or deficiencies in any given group either raises the min to stay bulky, or drops the max so you gain weight easier.
Too many carbs? The max before you gain weight is 2500 calories. Not enough carbs? The min is 2000. That kind of thing.
A variable fat fuckness window based on diet completeness, basically.

Also, make lower-weight characters burn fewer calories.

>>2295558
So now we're calling anything with permadeath a roguelike?

>>2296081
That's already (half-assedly and incorrectly) implemented but it's a separate problem anyway. 50g of carbs worth of oatmeal is a meal, 50g of carbs worth of cookies ain't shit. You could split carbs into dietary fiber and sugar, and maybe then be able to figure out a satiation value programmatically. But that still separates weight gain from hunger.

However, adding dietary fiber values would practically beg for stool quality to be modeled. Too much meat mixed with painkillers and you'll pop a blood vessel trying to pinch a loaf, just like Elvis.

>>2295987
lol no more stable?
the meltdown is going to be epic.

>>2296081
no what they need to do tack a sucrose counter on and give everyone diabetes to make it even more fucking convoluted.

>>2296141
>hey why are my mods fucking me
>play stable

>hey i dont like losing my saves
>play stable
what will the cope be now with no stable?

>>2295973
You quite literally can.

>>2295987
>>2296141
What do they even mean by 'significant security vulnerabilty'? What's the worst that could happen? Steam accounts hacked? Player data stolen? Or is it just about cheating/exploits? If they just found this in b41 that means it was vulnerable (to whatever) for a very long time

>>2296174
using java mods and powershell to run system commands and generally hijack your system.
ask chatgpt about the project zomboid security issues. PZ won't discuss it but the news is out there.

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>>2296201
Makes the game more immersive. That's what mods are for, right?
>the real permadeath run: if you die, the mod bricks your computer

>>2282497
The only essential equipment is shoes and the largest backpack you can get, the rest is to mitigate skill issues

>>2296222
>The only essential equipment is shoes and the largest backpack you can get, the rest is to mitigate skill issues
Wearing a Crucifix prevents God from smiting you. I consider that essential.

>>2296269
Me myself am partial to axes, but maybe the reason these thunder strikes keep hitting me is about me being not pious enough, now I'll add a crucifix run every time I'm starting a character, thanks for the insight

choose one
>project zomboid is feature complete, balanced, has good NPCs, a redesigned UI, and feels like a fun game
or
>you can have a gf + sex

>>2295978
Thanks mister preddit with your stupid retort that nobody was talking about.
You can eat excessively balanced meals all day and become anorexic. It's retarded and you know it.

>>2295987
>I don't like my saves breaking every fucking couple of weeks
>Uhm, it's UNSTABLE, CHUD! Go play B41 if you want a stable experience!
>I fucking can't, now what dumb canned line are you going to say?

>>2295987
B41 is still the default public version

>>2295973
CICO, retard.

>>2297284
Thanks ChatGPT. Make a cool brownie recipe for me please.

>>2297286
You do understand why you have to eat 40+ cabbages to meet your daily calorie burn, right?

>>2297307
Damn, those are some funny looking cabbages given that they take the form of entire roast chickens.

>friend insists I play this game for years
>start playing Multiplayer with him, enjoy it
>he tells me a neat trick after I get bitten
>"take this spoon" he says, "get as many zombies to chase you as you can, run into a house, put it in the microwave and turn it on"
>start to like this game
>start a single player game on my own
>talk to another friend who plays it, ask if they know the microwave trick
>"oh you mean putting an alarm clock in the microwave and turning it on?"
>that's an even better idea
>start looting alarm clocks like a madman
>sleep in a previously cleared out house
>looted alarm clock goes off
>at 3 in the morning
This game takes such a sadistic pleasure in ruining every 00's kids zombie killing fantasies with the most mundane objects, I can see why redditors like it

>>2297311
>You cannot lose weight IRL if you literally eat food all day to the point of being unable to eat another bite.

>>2297313
Pay attention to context, retard. Anon stated he was starving despite eating various mixed diets usually comprised of game and fish.

>>2297312
Microwave nukes are risky, the fires they create are bugged and spread over any substance including concrete lmao.
You can wipe out a quarter of an entire town with a single exploding microwave.

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>cheack up food jarring
>requires uncraftable vinegar
>lasts only 60 days
those fags should just stop bragging about 'realism' while 80% of mechanics and values in their game are completely fucked up

>>2297321
That's realistic though

>>2297376
Yeah, it's famously realistic that any person can shove a fork in a microwave and burn down a quarter of their city due to unextinguishable fires that consume solid concrete.

I wish there was a way to actually hide in this game where you could see zombies but they couldnt see you. I want to outsmart hordes by laying prone in grass with ghillie suit.

>>2297397
>I wish there was a way to actually hide in this game where you could see zombies but they couldnt see you
Long distance, sneaking, and this works. They don't have unlimited vision.
But there's really no way to 'stealth' around zombies because they're all over the place, and zombies attract more zombies.

>>2297355
I'm more amazed by the fact making canned food is still not an option.
Despite the fact it'd use skills like Cooking which currently have no reason to exist, with an actual risk from trying it with no experience (botulism), the fact that depending on how you do it, the process can be quite noisy (perfect for a zombie game) and the reward for succeding is that you'd effectively make food that could last a whole year.

>"100 grams of raw, white cabbage providing approximately 25 calories"
>1 cabbage with 0.2 encumbrance is 180 calories ingame
>"100-gram serving of raw potato (flesh and skin) typically contains about 77-89 calories"
>1 potato with 0.2 encumbrance is 70 calories
what

>>2297702
>Despite the fact it'd use skills like Cooking which currently have no reason to exist, with an actual risk from trying it with no experience (botulism)
Please no...
>Canning added to game
>Requires un-craftable non-used cans (found in 3 places on the map, on average about 20 of them spawn in any given world on default settings)
>Botulism (100% lethal) chance starts at 30%, decreasing to 0% at 10 cooking (Bugged so it's 100% at level 9 and 30% at level 10)
>Canned foods last 30 days, 60 if frozen

>Our game is realistic
>That's why freshly filleted fish is highly lethal
>You can tell that this is realistic because the entire population of Japan dies every day

>Cheat in Nutritionist trait because this shit is ridiculous
>Track calories my character eats over a day to maintain weight.
It was ~6,500 calories.
Per day.

>>2296131
If it has other roguelike mechanics such as:
>Randomized Items & Loot: Players must adapt to random equipment and abilities found during a run, forcing them to create unique builds on the fly.
>Resource Management: Managing scarce resources—such as food, ammo, or health—is critical to survival.
>Emergent Gameplay: Complex, interacting systems allow for unpredictable and creative solutions to challenges.
>Meta-Progression: While pure roguelikes feature no carryover, many modern "roguelites" allow players to unlock or recover items or other features between runs to aid future attempts.
then yeah
>>2297063
...??????? B41 is still the default public version, can you not read? All that says is that all versions prior to the most recent stable version of B41 will be unavailable, and that all versions prior to the most recent version of B42 unstable (at the time of that posting) will also be unavailable, with a promise that they might at some point after B42 gets ironed out work on restoring select legacy branches of the game. If you're going to complain, complain about something real, such as:
>Why is it so hard for you to patch this exploit out of all branches?
>Why did it take so long for this exploit to be discovered? This is something you should've figured out like, ten years ago. Do you just not have internal QA at all and just rely on the people partaking in unstable betas for all your feedback?

>>2297355
I don't mind the vinegar being uncraftable (It's stupid, but makes sense for balance).
But I absolutely fucking hate preserved veg spoiling. It should be non-perishable.

I think you should have to sterilize the jars before making it though. Pickled foods should be non-perishable, simple as. Perishable pickled foods are unironically one of my most hated systems in the game. Just make Jars exceedingly rare, basically only accessible through Glassmaking. That way you keep it balanced and give a relatively useless skill a real purpose.

Also, making fruit jams needs to be possible too.

>>2286952
>>2286989
why is the game set in kentucky anyway? aren't the developers br**sh?

>>2297844
>why is the game set in kentucky anyway? aren't the developers br**sh?
Because Kentucky is the place where zombie apocalypses happen. It's the zombie apocalypse state.

>>2297844
>why does Red Faction take place on Mars? Aren't the developers Earthlings?
this is what you sound like

>>2297844
Because the setting is a reference - among many in the game - to Return of the Living Dead, which takes place in Louisville.

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if this is true that's hilarious

>>2297822
>If it has other roguelike mechanics
not turn based, not in a grid and the map isn't procedural. Cataclysm is a proper roguelike

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>TIS did an oopsie again
Glad I stopped expecting anything good from these hacks in years.

>>2297896
>Turn based
Can be, but doesn't necessarily need to be
>not in a grid
Yes it is. The game is based on the sims 1, which was an isometric grid. The games tiles are laid out in squares and all distances in realformula related to things like distance or circumference are performed using tile space as the measure.
A roguelike does not need to be a rogueclone.

>>2297889
>Here's this thing I am offering you for free!
>Okay, now that you have accepted this FREE thing I have given you, would you mind "supporting" me financially?
>...no? KVETCH
>STUPID GOY HOW DARE YOU
>*injects - if relatively harmless - malware on your computer*
Unhinged behavior

>>2298049
>THIS MOD IS PATREON WAYPALLED
>its written in TOS that you can't paywall mods
>STOP DEFENDING GREEDY CORPORATIONS
this shit is funnier IMO

So, since finding a good weapon early on (best I got is a crowbar) is impossible despite the loot being increased, what the fuck are you supposed to craft as a weapon? It just gives me a headache looking at the sheer number of stuff there is with 0 indication of what to try to reach for.

>>2297815
>You can tell that this is realistic because the entire population of Japan dies every day
Have you seen a single japanese person in PZ? Checkmate atheists.

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>>2298041
>A roguelike does not need to be a rogueclone.
i don't want to search for roguelikes and get lemmy's nigger game recommended. like i don't want csgo as the 2 result when i look up "Strategy" on steam
https://www.roguebasin.com/index.php/Berlin_Interpretation

>>2298301
>So, since finding a good weapon early on (best I got is a crowbar) is impossible despite the loot being increased, what the fuck are you supposed to craft as a weapon?
Spears are easy as shit to craft. Crude axes are fine with some foraging.

>>2298544
>I don't like it therefore it is not the genre that it is GGUGUGUGDFHGFDJGDFHJGFDJGFD
CSGO is not a strategy game, but project zomboid is in fact a roguelike.

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>>2298647
no grognard will agree with you on that
if you ever recommend this awfully made game to someone asking for a roguelike, giganigga will rape you in your sleep

>>2298726
that's not an argument, I accept your concession.

>>2298301
if you get filtered by PZs basic bitch crafting menu, maybe this game isnt for you.

>>2298647
It's a roguelite at best.

>>2298647
>>2298906
It's a GTA2-like

Hear me out bros.
Wait, wait no hear me out.

Cars that have zombies in them.
You walk past and they start banging on the windshield.
Sometimes full ass zombie clown cars with five Zds in there.

>>2299071
>B42.16
>Cars now have chance to have zombies in them (no sounds for them yet)
>Up to 5 zombies in a car
>Approximately 20% chance (bugged, actually 60%) of zombies in cars
>Entering car with zombie causes bite on extremity

>>2299073
>Walk through car park.
>One zombie in a car notices you.
>Stone Cold Steve Austin theme song glass shatter plays.
>Every Zombie in every car around you hears the noise.
>5 zombies lunge out of every car all at once.
>Crawling out the windows, you're surrounded...

Have fun, gamers!

>>2299075
Cars are shockingly uncommon even in huge carparks.
I mean who cares if 5 zombies pop out of 10 cars. 50 zombies is a fair bunch but not that concerning.

>>2299076
>"Fixed a bug that caused 100% of car-spawn Zombies to be sprinters."

>>2299077
>added 5% (120% due to bug) chance for zombie inside a car to trigger car alarm

>"Fixed bug that made zombies crawling out of cars invisible"
>"Fixed display bug that made doors that zombies inside cars opened appear as closed"
>"Fixed bug that caused zombies inside already cleared cars to respawn while driving"
>"KNOWN ISSUE: Cars may sometimes spawn hordes inside of them, we are currently looking into the issue and have disabled multiplayer until we can apply an emergency patch"

Enjoying the surprisingly realistic Zomboid patch notes. Make more about the fishing system and crafting.