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Stay a While and Listen Edition

>Season 12: Season of Slaughter
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244648/become-the-butcher-in-season-of-slaughter

>Patch Notes:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244466/diablo-iv-patch-notes

>Resources for builds:
https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4
https://maxroll.gg/d4
https://d4builds.gg
https://diablo4.gg/

>Miscellaneous (event countdown, leaderboards etc.):
https://helltides.com/

>Trade:
https://diablo.trade/

>Codex:
https://diablo4.cc/

Previously in the Sanctuary: >>2243491
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haven't played in days. need to finish the journey but the butcher shit is gay
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>>2307632
>beta
That was a completely different game back then. For some reason they thought ultra slow pace would work long term for the game. It's good they turned that around and started bringing back features from D3 and PoE.
Also Horn is yesterday's news bro. Shield crest is the new metric.
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>>2307855
filler season, it was always going to be lackluster. go figure. at least the butcher shit isn't that in your face and you can skip his sections. and hey at the very least doom skins are cool.
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For posterity, the interview with Zaven about some of the upcoming changes to the game activities (and the source)
https://www.buffed.de/Diablo-4-Spiel-55956/Specials/D4-Die-Playlist-fuers-Endgame-Dev-Einblicke-in-die-Kriegsplaene-von-LoH-1521367/
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>>2307871
based. hornfags seething about this.
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Made a barb today and i got bloodied keys, i didn't get any of these on my paladin. I didn't know these existed.
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>"By three they come!"
>almost three years later
>only one has come
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I am seriously considering buying this. The fact that you get a set for every single class is what is appealing.
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>>2307871
You can still get this unlike the horn.
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>>2308236
that's why nobody cares about the horn, because why bother if you can't get it. there's no appeal in that. you can still get the crest if you farm long enough, which you need to spend a fuckload of time considering abysmal drop rates. horn might as well not be in the game for how non-existent (at 0) chances are to see someone using it. I've played since launch and the only time I saw the horn was in season 1 and once in season 2.
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>>2308236
you guys look at other peoples horses? to see what bling they have? interesting.
the crest dropped from the secret 4 way boss battle right? does that mean the shrines are still there?
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>>2308236
of course, report to us once you get it :^)
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I see that the seething still continues.
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>>2308313
I'm losing sleep over it after all this time still yes.
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>>2308325
as one should, over pointless pixel garbo
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>>2307838
I really hate how pizzard is milking the butcher to hell and back.
He used to be a cool boss down in the depths and now he is like an overused meme.
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do any of you have the glorious armor?
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Game is Patched
Extra xp @ +35%
Gift of the Tree till March 31st @ 6pm
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>>2308552
Which armor do you have in mind?
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>>2308650
Well shit. I just finished target farming all my doom coins so i probably won't log in again
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This bloodstained stuff really exposes how shit most of these classes are. They don't have the damage or survivability for higher difficulties.
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>>2308552
yes i have all the slutmogs, if that's what you're talking about
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>>2307611
>>2307715

Not everyone poopsocked the first week and finished.
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Alright, where the fuck is the Obductide?
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>>2309424
horadric strongroom NMD, and the escalating sigils (boss at the end drops like 800 or so)
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>>2309426
I crafted 40 keys for one horadric strongroom. This isn't going to work.
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>>2309464
if you can get an escalating sigil, you apparently get horadric strongroom and more escalating sigil keys at the end. maybe you can try to join one idk, everyone in the party gets the key drops at the end
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>>2307838
Are they really removing all Passives next season?
Will that be the biggest gameplay shakeup we've seen so far?
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>>2309533
they better not eff it up...
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>>2309533
noob here, what are passives? do you mean the yellow nodes that just give general benefits?
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>>2309548
they can add a lot of power to your build, which is why the gear that gives +to passives is sought-after in endgame
it's the little diamond nodes off the skill tree that says "20% more holy and fire damage" or whatever
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Why does it keep making people ask before joining my parties now? How do you just let people automatically join in the party finder?
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>>2309556
it's in your game settings, i think under connectivity at the bottom... "allow auto-join" or something?
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>>2309572
There is an option for friends but not for randoms. This only started this season for me. Very strange.
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>>2309246
did they ever make a pooid one
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The lack of dependable obducide farm is killing my motivation to keep playing this. Before we could at least spam infernal hordes. Now we have to pray for the random key to drop and randomly have the right modifier. I literally can't progress and upgrade anything because I have no way of farming the obducite
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>>2308656
>Which armor do you have in mind?
Glorious - see webm
>>2309246
>yes i have all the slutmogs, if that's what you're talking about
It is not, but that is very based.
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>>2309889
Oh, then yes. I have it.
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are either of these active?
>>2309891
sheeeit i wonder where i can find it. i'll have to do all the quests finally.
>>2309822
i can run some with you, i have a bunch of strongroom sigils and escalations.
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>>2309900
no search for <FREN> clan :)
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>>2309900
FREN is the new active clan bro. Look it up!
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>>2309928
>>2309927
sounds gay
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people saying, "doing horadric strongrooms drop guaranteed escalation sigils" just isn't true. just did max attunement. no sigil lel
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>>2309932
you sound gay. you're not allowed in.
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>>2310239
im in FREN and it’s silent af :(
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>>2310463
Be the change you want to see fren :) Don't be a stranger!
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>>2310463
This is the most silent it's been desu. I usually group up with folks and do boss runs and stuff, but that never happened this season. I reckon it'll be bumpin when the expansion drops.
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>>2310463
i was going to log in earlier, but i guess battlenet was down for maintenance or something, so it wouldn't even let me sign in :/
>>2310706
yeah i don't feel like making a new char and playing around with this old skill tree that is going to be completely changed in a months time. i know i'll be on for a good long time when expansion drops, cause i'm going to hunt all the new achievements down
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>>2310463
I admit I just went ahead and quickly completed BP, finished the journey and collected all weapon transmogs. I only once came out with a ascendance tribute run tbqh. I will most definitely be more active with the launch of next season for sure.
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>>2310085
it's the escalation dungeons that drop more escalation sigils tho
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new last epoch season tomorrow and new d3 season friday. might login to both
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>>2309556
I just figured out why. If they don't have the expansion preordered it asks if you want to allow someone to join your party because quest progress is prevented.
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i am once again asking how it's possible to kill 30 wanderers in a butcher run
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I haven't played a diablo in like 20+ years. Trying to gauge if I'll even like d4 or if it'll be too easy for me. I really liked V rising, but you can only play that so much.
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So there is a modifier called obducite mine but its only available in escalating nightmare sigils. What the fuck blizzard...
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>>2311294
Just cleared the map and still only got around 80-90 obducite. This has to be bugged.
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>>2311177
they keep spawning
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>>2311451
sure but then the run is over bc i killed too many monsters
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>>2311453
>sure but then the run is over bc i killed too many monsters
literally a skill issue on your part then, the wanderers respawn even where there are no other enemies.
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>>2311464
nah they don't.
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>>2311469
yeah they do. git gud
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>>2311471
cope no they don't meet me in the fields of hatred and say that to my face
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>>2311486
fite me n00b
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This slaughterhouse shit or whatever is mad boring.
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Has anyone managed to get the Fresh Meat achievement over 9000 killstreak? This fucking game doesn't spawn enough enemy for this shit. Can kill everything instantly but they don't give you enough to kill. Then there is the lag that fucks up the streak timer.
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>>2311501
yes. see previous thread.
>>2292697
>>2292772
>>2292819
>>2297378
annoying as fuck when your killstreak is high and you just miss getting the cheevo, nearly screamed when i fucked up the second time.
make sure to have high mobility but at the same time, not necessarily obliterate mobs too quickly, and turn crossplay off.
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>>2311519
when i started out trying for this, i got to a killstreak of 8,673 and was so excited that it was the closest i had come to the 9,000 mark --and then helltide abruptly ended and everything despawned, leaving me with my limp killstreak in my hands and no title. yeah i was a little mad. i had to turn the game off and walk away for a while...
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When will the d2 xpac go on sale?
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>>2311453
when the timer runs down and you kill the group of wanderers, you can still go around the map and clear the rest of the wanderers. you don't have to immediately portal out.
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do i need to run bloodsoaked bosses to get shit like this? i've never seen a 3x passives amulet ever.
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oops lol
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>>2311961
you can try undercity with the legendaries tribute and pay 50 mil for a chance for passives: results may vary. also you can try gambling for amulets. they do pop up from time to time.
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>>2311519
Okay I did it. After turning crossplay off I could solo blood maiden. I think she summons 1000 enemy each time. It was pretty easy after that. Problem was all these npc's running around stealing kills.
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>>2312312
Its ironic that this open world multiplayer game prefers the player to play solo.
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>>2312312
I did it here if anyone cares.
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>>2312336
And on which build, Anon?
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>>2312344
Dance of knives poison trap rogue. Rogue can use ubracrux to keep the killstreak going.
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>>2311961
An amulet like that is rarer than mythics. Just gotta keep farming and hoping it drops.
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>>2311496
>slaughterhouse
They were helpful very early in penitent difficulty to farm the aspects for my build but yeah they are pretty much useless after that. I salvage them instantly.
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anyone played the new last epoch season yet?
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>>2312312
Good job!!
>>2311961
>>2312550
i will keep trying to find them, thanks for the info!
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>>2312294
thanks i shall try this!
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I hate seeing this pet. It's so ugly looking
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>>2313130
like lookin in the mirror huh KEK gottem
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>>2313130
what is THAT? gross!
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im not the only one who does this, right?
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d3 new season looks dead af thanks to last sleepoch
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>>2313284
yeah but the clutter does cap out at a certain point and then new stuff will stop dropping, so you have to periodically reset dungeons to erase it all
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apocalypse warlock is stronger than echoing strike
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>>2313420
huh i never knew, i don't think i've gotten it so the stuff stops despawning, on so i can fill my bag with ancestrals.
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>>2313373
Literally couldntt log in for at least half a day due to some sort of serverissue thx bliz
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i hate leveling in d3 so fucken much
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diablo II leap attack barbarian endgame build guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBBTZcXwX4
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Why does diablo 4 get boring so quickly? There is no endgame still after all of these years. After you max glyphs and get the gear you need there is nothing to use it on. The only thing left is chasing quad greater affixes. The game still feels a mile wide but an inch deep.
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>>2315030
I was thinking that if they at least kept the hidden title for fully completing the season journey I would still play. I need something to grind out. The fun is so fleeting in Diablo 4. Once you get to where you one shot everything in torment 4 the fun ends. There is no aspirational gear to really scale your character even further.
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what's the fastest way to farm the dark age currency? i'm doing nightmare dungeons but it's still too slow
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>>2315162
I'd say helltides. Doom gems drop from elites and there are plenty of those there.
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This season worth it if I haven't played for like a year or so? Do I paypig for the expansion for paladin?
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>>2315581
not really. this season is pretty shit. admittedly, it's a filler season. you should definitely paypiggy it up though. the paladin is kino and the warlock looks cool too
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>>2315581
No and no. Wait until it comes out to make a decision. The game is pretty much the same as a year ago. They keep changing the same things back and forth. for example
>removed 4th stat but then added it back
>removed toughness then added it back
>removed the trials then added back a half ass version called the tower
>Make new class stupid overpowered to sell it then nerf it to the ground

The game lacks identity. Blizzard doesn't know what they want Diablo 4 to be.
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>>2315162
I got a ton farming nightmare dungeons for obducite
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>>2315581
Nah this season is dogshit. Might be the first one I don't complete because I'm so fucking bored
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>>2316429
same
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Maybe we should consider a universal ARPG general. Might be enough to stick around in /vg/
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>>2318008
Why the push for /vg/ though? This board is fine for how each season plays out. People drop in and out, on and off and it's nicely paced.
If there's need to get more people here then one could consider a thread on /v/ every once in a while.
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>>2318008
stupid idea. just stop posting already.
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>>2318008
at least things wouldn't be so fucking dead. /vm/ also has the uncanny nature of attracting chuds that usually get filtered in /vg/
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>>2318089
I can hear you gnashing your teeth from here. Think about your blood pressure sis...
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i am playing diablo 3 at work
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>>2318204
based. Class?
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>>2318008
I would be down
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>>2318008
Meh, leave it.
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>>2318270
wizard, my beloved
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Is immortal any good?
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>>2318417
pay to win 100%
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>>2318531
Gross…
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>>2318533
it isn't even like pay $20 to win either --the last time i checked, it was pay something like pay $400,000 USD to win, no joke
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>>2318008
/vg/ threads move way too quickly for diablo.
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D4 should've been the over the shoulder TPP style game like the originally thought about doing

Now that would be kino
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finally got the free doom portal. i can finally rest
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>>2319382
Congrats. But did you reach over 9000 kill streak Wanderer?
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>>2319384
if there are no cosmetics unlock that carries over to the next season, i dont care. shrimple as
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>>2319385
That's fair. I also stopped caring about the title that comes with it after 5+ tries. It's not that enticing anymore. With everything unlocked and completed sans that one achievement I can await the expansion in peace.
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>>2319382
Same.
Here's hoping LoD actually improves classes and that the story isn't as bad as VoH.
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>>2319387
I'm still not sure whether to get the xpac. I have been playing the base game for both S11 and S12. Might play around with the new skill trees first and wait for a discount unless they finally managed to make the endgame interesting
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>>2319391
>that the story isn't as bad as VoH.
Hear hear. After the base campaign I set my expecations low for VoH but that plot was Mariana Trench levels of bad. My point is, it'd be very difficult for them to make LoH story worse than its predecessor. Unless they shove in more gurlbosses everywhere and the little asian gypsy girl comes back to smack another prime evil around.
>>2319392
I couldn't imagine to tell anybody what to do with their income so I won't tell you to get it. I did pre order it though because I wanted to play the paladin so I'm kinda stuck with LoH either way. It seems like they are (maybe) starting to course correct with introducing some endgame content. See >>2307906
It's too early to call it a success, we'll have to wait until next month. I keep my fingers crossed but I'm not getting my hopes up yet so as to avoid setting myself up for disappointment.
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>>2319392
>unless they finally managed to make the endgame interesting
Isn't the solution just going to be "warplans"? Tbh it sounds exactly like the vault in retail WoW with a few more steps and I doubt that will fix anything.
Sometimes I think the only real fix is just to add in raids like wow/ffxiv. Either that or structured challenge maps, sort of like l4d/vermintide. But idk, could be in the minority here.
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>>2319396
if they really want people to play the game more often than 1 wk/season, they should add in weeklies/dailies with some kind of lucrative reward. that's proven to keep people signing in at least once a week/every couple days. do X thing once/week to get a guaranteed spark or something. do X thing once/day to get extra heap of obducite.
also, if they added in a clan base like the den but accessible to all clannies, people could drop gear into a box for anyone to grab from, then people would maybe consider making another class or build from whatever extra thingies they find in there = play for longer. add some kind of resource thing into the clan den that is interactable: one clan member has to click a garden plot once a day, and then everyone can claim a bunch of herbs for potions or whatnot.
idk, from what i see, it's not so much "muh endgame" but the actual playtime/retention that is low-hanging fruit. but ehh it is what it is for now: complete season and then leave.
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I came back from launch and have two battle pass unlocks on my account, so I have a quick question about that. If I use my unlock for the 1,000 plat version, would I be able to upgrade to the deluxe for any discounts, or would I still have to somehow pay 2,800 or so?
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This season blows ass 0 motivation to play just release the expansion already
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logged in and got my gilded laurels. idk if i want to grind a bunch of fuckin doom mats
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>>2321743
I simply treated this "season" as something I do on the side when I'm bored. Very little to do, Butcher mechanic is ok but not good enough to stand on its own as a seasonal system (something to bring as a mini-event imho).

It was painfully obvious even before S12 started that it's nothing more than content mashed together before they bring out (hopefully) the big guns with the expansion.

>>2322183
Those are easy to get when you do lair bosses and you get to keep nice transmogs for future sessions. Not terrible overall.
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>>2319387
german beavis found a killstreak counting bug on spiritborn. he was getting like 3x or something the kills per monster with his evade payback build. he said he got to the 9,000 killstreak in 7 minutes. idk if you're still interested (and i'm sure blizz hasn't fixed it yet), you could try to quick make an evade sb and get the fresh meat title
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>>2323082
>Those are easy to get when you do lair bosses
>just ran 3 lair bosses
>not a single one
interesting
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>world boss i jjust fought is called "chi'khan" and it's a giant chicken
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he also dropped these items form e. people in trade chat got other chicken related items
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>>2323611
you have to open the DOOM chest to get the transmog weapons, silly
but if there isn't a chest, that's because belial is sneaking in --the DOOM chest spawns after you defeat him.
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>>2324012
oh yeah fren i'm sorry. i'm trying to get the mats for the doom reliquary
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>>2324156
ohh if you want the doom mats, you have to kill elites. i think i got most of those running helltides and NMD. i still see them pop up all the time, and i'm completely done with that reliquary.
just finished the last seasonal objective tonight: kill 250 elite enemies in pvp zone ughhh what a slog.
>>2323628
this is the most fun event that d4 has done yet! a giant chicken boss that drops chicken weapons kekek i love it!
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>>2323547
Huh, I might actually give it a shot then. Thank you bro!
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>>2323628
That's a big cock.
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big chicken boss is still active today if anyone missed it yesterday!
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>>2324839
How long will it be active and what level do I have to be to fight it?
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I regret not buying Diablo4 when it launched but at that time, I had a shitty PC unable to play it (hardcore). And now... Too much FOMO contents have passed and I'm too much of a fomo/collection slut to buy it
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Some LoH cutscene that was released not too long ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMJH8dBdfC8
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>>2325225
kino
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>>2318008
Diablo 4 is a few more bad season from going into maintenance mode and your worried about spinning a way to get it into /vg/? Be lucky the game is still getting seasons because if it continues down the path its been going it won't last the end of the year.
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Well, how fun was season 12?
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>login to fight chicken
>have to wait for arbitrary mobile game boss timer to summon him

I hate this game.
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>>2325629

just 40 more minutes
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>>2325607
slightly
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>>2325552
Diablo 4 is Blizzard's highest grossing game, ever. The Paladin release broke the store on December 11th, it had so many people trying to buy it. It's too much of a normie game for most anons, and it doesn't have underage-looking anime-esque avatars, so it doesn't get much discussion on 4chan.

Always amazed when I come to this website and see some of the wildest takes from complete retards.
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>>2325890
>Diablo 4 is Blizzard's highest grossing game, ever
>wow players paying $15 a month for over 20 years
based retard
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>>2325890
lol
lamo even
Diablo Immortal gets the same skins/theme events as Diablo 4 except Diablo Immortal gets them for free because IT makes Blizzard money unlike Diablo 4. Blizzard is an American company and American companies only care about short term profits not long term. Yes Diablo 4 MIGHT of sold a decent amount of expansions but they care WAY MORE about how many skins sell between those expansions and when seasons launch broken HALF the time and shit the other HALF people aren't going to show up and or stick around to buy skins. The degree that seasons/classes launch broken in this game is fucking criminal and is ultimately whats going to kill this game before the end of the year.
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>>2325890
>>2325950
>>2327085
And never forget that this game has over 100 plus uniques and actually had build diversity but now everyone has to play the same 1-2 builds per class and this is because with the launch of the LAST expansion they bricked 90% of all existing uniques with the stat squish (that did literally nothing but make the game worse) and ALL of those uniques are still bricked to this very day.
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>>2327092
>D4 restricts top content to the shop
I'm genuinely baffled by that. At what point did they go "oh yeah we need good to best looking cosmetics relegated to being shop exclusive content". Really, considering what D:I is pulling, especially before D4 launch, this would be a no-brainer to get people to buy your game with even more shit.
Unless, and it's a huge stretch from me, they can't or won't cannibalize their games by applying the same strategy. Either that or they are completely oblivious to what makes people tick.
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>>2327097
They don't even play their own game anon. The one time they showed someone playing it during one of their sit downs it was a fat troon on a bis barb on normal difficulty auto-attacking 90% of the time while dying every few packs (on normal difficulty)
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>>2327112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-G3j00RQ1U
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>>2327112
>They don't even play their own game anon.
>The one time they showed someone playing it during one of their sit downs it was a fat troon on a bis barb on normal difficulty auto-attacking 90% of the time while dying every few packs (on normal difficulty)
I know Anon, I know I've been there when it happened sadly. Fact of the matter is those two fat cunts where supposedly ONLY dungeon designers. Not that it absolves them. On the contrary, they should fucking now how basic mechanics work to properly design levels, which shows they know fuck all about it.
Thing is you have dudes like that Colin or Zaven who seem to know what they are talking about. Former more than the latter imho, but still. Yet very little comes out of that. D4 went through so many iterations that only now it may be looking better and it's only due to making it closer to D3. Which wouldn't be a bad thing if the foundations were at least solid (toughness being removed then added again for instance). Maybe it's the case of too many cooks in the kitchen. I don't really know...

That entire cosmetics in D:I vs D4 debacle still boggles the mind though.
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>>2327116
>>2327116
>99:1 dislike ratio
>comments disabled
How badly were their feelings hurt lmao.
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>>2328110
which reminds me
>proper use of "their"
bros, if the expansion story changes everybody's "her" or "his" to "their" again, i'm going to punch a wall. the last expansion story sucked so much in general, but the liberally sprinkled "their" all the time in the dialogue was the icing on the cake of crap writing. "uhhhh who??" "what is even going on? who is going where? all of them??" freaking political correctness is the death of any story or game.
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>>2329900
we're woke now
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I still want ruthless mode in d4
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>>2329900
Blizzard is the most woke gaming company in the industry that hasn't sunk or gotten the axe yet so yes until one of those two things happen all the writing will be woke as fuck. I mean hell just last week they announced they are adding trans events to World of Warcraft.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/darkspear-dash-wows-first-official-pride-event-coming-in-patch-12-0-5-380974
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