Patch coming soon.https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2026/04/location-location/>A bunch of occupations getting balanced>smoker tweaked AGAINTo smoke or not to smoke? That is the question.
>only new content are some VHS tapes with a little story to follow that 99.99% of people aren't gonna bother with
>>2360812I haven't followed unstable for a few months, what's the gun store story they're talking about? Have we seen bows/brewing/etc shown off at all yet?
What do you do after you have a base. Do you go out and explore the entire map and bring things back to the base or make more bases somewhere else? I can't figure out if its worth hauling things back and forth.
>>2361029Forward bases near any big looting opportunities, also a good way to have a safe place to clear from. Central base somewhere nice and optimally not infested.
>>2360971VHS are still cucked and only give you up to level 3, right?
>>2360966>The new chud in command literally just listens to feedback and implements it in the game as actually expected of a game studioIt's honestly shocking to see the difference between Lemmy and Chud. Lemmy would actively ignore if not do the opposite of feedback, Chud just listens.
>wonder why my veteran character is giga depressed>decide to stick all their clothes in the wash including boots>get awoken by a broken window and sprinter zombie snarls>cripple myself for days by walking over the glass
>>2361361Chud is Trump, Lemmy is Kushner. It's just a nice PR puppetshow to please their audience and make them think things are changing for the better, but with The Usual Management giving every order. Keep your ear to the ground to find out which one is Epstein and has been grooming kids on their discord server for six years
>>2361393>Keep your ear to the ground to find out which one is Epstein and has been grooming kids on their discord server for six yearsEnigma "Nigma" Gray?
>We're removing the echo creek spawn>What the fuck? Just let us spawn anywhere you retards!>You can now spawn anywhereLemmy would never do that, ever, he's too spiteful.
>>2361116Unless you alter the sandbox settings, yeah. There's basically no point in using them anymore.
>>2361370>didn't board up his window on both sidesngmi
>>2361393>/pol/babble
>>2361496>There's basically no point in using them anymoreGetting boosted to level 2+ mechanics from just watching a single VHS helps a lot with keeping cars maintained, same goes for most skills.It's always the first two levels that are the most mind numbingly hard to obtain.They need to add a simple 'practice X skill' recipe that eats resources and outputs nothing.
>Eyepatch decreases your vision by 50%Holy fucking cringe. What a gay change for NO reason. I was wondering why my cone was so narrow with eagle eyes>>2361498It's just a house I was looting when it got dark. Don't have a base yet. Currently living in a house next to it nursing my wounds. No planks nearby and haven't found a hammer eitherI think I'm in echo creek because there's nothing but farms around here
>>2361525>Eyepatch decreases your vision by 50%I mean...You are literally covering an entire eye.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3707475814Has anyone tried it yet?
>>2361525>Holy fucking cringe. What a gay change for NO reason.Are you retarded? It's an eyepatch.
>>2361403They definitely need to add occupation spawns to the new areas though.
>>2361610I never understood why occupation spawns even really matter. All the characters own homes so appearing in random houses makes perfect sense.
>>2361525>it's just a house I was looting when it got darkoicstill, i'd at least move something in front of any unfortunate entry points, or like, in a situation like that where the window is by the stairs, a tv/couch/whatever at the bottom and top of the stairs. I'd recommend breaking some of the stairs instead so they can't climb up to you, but you dont have a hammer so rip>>2361589>its outPOGill try it sometime later. ...shit but that means updating my game...
>>2361614Because I like spawning in police stations.
>>2361614i like occupation spawns because its an element that makes it feel like it matters what your occupation is in a tangible fashion
>>2361370This is why I start pulling spare changes of clothes off of zombies early
>>2361370Never ever ever take off your shoes in Zomboid. There's no reason to do it, ever.Yeah IRL your feet would fucking rot and you'd die. But Zomboid characters don't give a shit about that.
>>2360966Undussy...
>>2361671Also, the game doesn't give you any indication of it, so if you stomp many zeds, especially in early game since the weapon distribution is so garbage, you should regularly check the condition and swap them out for another pair or you're gonna get fucked walking on broken glass.
>>2362091I think there's a special "big rip" soundeffect if one of you clothes gets destroyed. Last week I heard this unusually loud sound effect after getting grabbed. I didn't see any damage on my clothes, but when I looked more closely I saw that my scarf had been dropped to the ground and marked with an "x".
>>2361501turning your ears, eyes and brain off when you hear your master's bell ringing is a sign of an animal or slave btw
Yooooo are we back from yearly thursdoids to getting monthly ones?
>>2362539Chud in command actually getting shit done and being more transparent.Imagine how much further along the game could've been if he was in charge 5 years ago.
>>2362547funny that compared to lemmy some value changes is getting shit done
>>2362649Everyone told Lemmy to just change a few fucking integers to fix a fair few of the game's issues and he flipped the players off and nerfed shit harder.
>>2362539I think so because otherwise I don't see why they'd post the blog without the patch being pushed
>>2362649>funny that compared to lemmy some value changes is getting shit doneBecause even that little is actually doing something.
Do you think the final game will have achievements. 90% of the pleasure I get from games is achievement hunting and this game could have fun achievements.
>>2365068What kind of achievements would this game even have>Die for the first time>Drink Bleach>Die from falling>uhhhhhh power a generatorthere's no real milestones
>>2365077Waste several real life hours to be able to make some middle schooler's blacksmithing project
>>2365077>What kind of achievements would this game even have>Reach level 10 farming on default settings>Reach level 10 first aid on default settings>Reach level 10 nimble on default settings (0% of players have unlocked this achievement 10 years after achievements added)
>Game has such bad documentation that nobody knows what half the mechanics really do>Nobody knows if generators are bad for animals/stress them out, when all there needs to be is a game manual stating such
>>2365077>survive X days in this custom challenge
>>2365077>Reach level 3/5/10 in X>Connect a Generator to your Base>Equip something in every slot>Plumb a sink to a rain collector>Eat dogfood>Trip a house alarm>Kill 10 zombies with a single explosion>Raid a Survivor's HomeHonestly, they could come up with hundreds of piss easy achievements for every single thing you can do, or they can just make them hard as fuck like "Survive for a whole year".
>>2365077>Reach 10 in every skills
>>2365077>find toilet paper house, deluxe gun store and other rare gimmick loot stories>survive 1 week + 3 months + 1 year on each gamemode>NMRIH-style kill 50 zombies with toilet plunger/500 with M16 etc>innawoods achievement for forging a suit of armor or building something at the far end of the crafting tree without ever going into a town>each challenge mode gets one for surviving a month or however long of course>achievement for restoring a car with total under 20% or 30% to 90%+>achievement for every unique method of death so you can collect them all across runs (bleach, firearm suicide that they also need to add, dragged down, infected, poisoned, car crash, killed by player via melee/firearm etc)>consolation prize achievements (bitten by lunger, caught in a storm at night while injured or sick, animal dies or is nursed back to health)>genocide V with 800,000 zombie kills to represent rough original population of the game area (carrying the torch from l4d/dead rising)considering their focus on shit like liquid transfer I don't get why they never bothered with cheevos to cheaply give players some sort of tangible long term goals
>>2366731theyll probably add achievements when the game is officially released in 1.0 , which is honestly pretty good because by then ill be able to get my future children and grand children to play on a server with me.
We really need glassblowing. Imagine the possibilities......
>>2366550>Survive 1 day/1week/1 month/1 year
>>2367396>Pack a freezer>fast forward time>only eat when you are about to dieYeah, really difficult achievements.
>>2365077>get a zombie pregnant
>>2361370>>2361525Braindead troon
>>2367224We need blowing in general, imagine the possibilities.....
>>2367213>grand children>he thinks the game is gonna reach 1.0 in less than three generations
>>2361566That's not how eyes work. While looking forward. Move your left hand to the left most area of your vision. Close your right eye and move your right hand to the right most.
>>2370489>>2361566it probably wouldn't be as annoying if you could actually lose an eye from head injuries (so you wouldn't be losing any additional sight by adding a patch, just covering the wound)would incentivize people to wear helmets and goggles more too, at one point it was meta because stacked accessories getting knocked off by attacks always buffered bites but I think it was changed
>B44, injury system implemented>losing an arm remove 90% of abilities (using a 1 handed weapon requires 2 arms)>losing a leg force you to crawl permanently (no option to use a crutch, they exist, they're just junk items)>losing both legs prevent you from moving completely>losing any part on your limb (including clipping your nails) count as missing the limb>losing an eye reduce your vision by 90%>cutting your limb immediately after being bitten on a friday night on a full moon gives you 0.00001% chance of losing the infection status>cutting your own limb is on its own menu, only accessible from the crafting menu if you have a sharp item in your backpack (not your inventory), bandaging your wounds are now in the same menu>losing a limb makes you to bleed faster than a laceration in the neck>there's the option to remove your own head, this does not affect gameplay
>>2370489My right eye doesn't work, I assure you it absolutely limits your field of view lmao.
>>2370718>My right eye doesn't workMaybe you're just not looking at the problem from the right angle.
>>2370727I wish I could.
>game hits headlines for having trojans in the music mods >zombiebuddy is uploaded a week or two later with manual install>already numerous sub mods for it, each one with unrestricted access to your system in exchange for mickey mouse shit like slightly changing the cutaway mechanicISHYGDDT
>TIS actually pushing out updates regularly and tweaking out values so default mode doesn't feel absolute ass to playWhat happened? Lemmy found someone to tard-wrangle him?
Does Project Zomboid run nicely on Linux Mint or do I have to fuck around with wine and protontricks? Mainly concerned about font scaling since that’s usually what fucks up programs in proton.
>>2371060that's about it, someone else is project manager now while lemmy ostensibly continues to work on NPCs
>New spawns>New VHS tapes>Buffs to occupations and traitsNice.
>>2365068I notice a lot of early access games don't have achievements, but I also have seen plenty of games add new achievements or change them in updates. Is there something in steam preventing early access games from adding achievements, or do they charge you to change them or something? I don't know why they wouldn't just throw some out for people to go for while the game's still being worked on unless there's some drawback.
I just came home and saw the download.Are we back?
>>2371394https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/94253-build-42170-unstable-released/see fer urselfcant believe they already implemented sandbox options for additional "non-canon" spawn points, I made that suggestion last week expecting to have to download mods for it for all eternity
>>2371060TIS hired a chud, chud is whipping the team into submission.
Who is this tranny and why do they sound like they have their head shoved up their own ass all the time?
So since many of us will be making new characters for this patch. What kind of run are you guys doing?Extinction was surprisingly easy. Gonna do a sandbox with more sprinters
>>2372901Sandbox, infection mortality 'never'.
>>2372904With sprinters set to common
>>2372914I don't like sprinters, I just use plain 'ol Romero styled zombies.Oh right, lunging turned off.
>>2360966still no bycicles
>>2372916I think we're two very different gamers
>>2372924Fair enough, the game has a shitload of settings so everyone plays it differently.
>>2360966this versioning is so fucked. will mods that are for 42.15 work? will mods that are for 42.13 work?? who fucking knows right?playing the game is a total crapshoot right now, and yet again it's a fucking update where they tweak sandbox/career values AGAIN. how long are they going to dick around with these? can they actually make the game work?what are they even fucking doing over there besides sometimes fixing bugs they introduce with each patch.
>>2372971>Why are mods breaking in a game actually getting updates???Wait until stable release to use mods, retard. This is modding 101.
>>2370718I understand that part but it wouldn't be 50%
>>2372976neck yourself Lemmy.
>>2372989It wouldn't be quite 50%, but it's more than you think. You can see movement pretty far into the edges of your vision and if you lose an eye you really lose a lot of that. Someone could sneak up on me on the right side of me pretty easily and I'd have no clue.
>start new run>5 months into the apocalypse>spawn in a fully metal sheet barricaded house>because the power's off there's it's pitch black and I have no way of escaping BRAVO! Do I just leave the oven on to burn myself out or what?
>>2373007what's the problem, you are fully protected from zombies. you've won the game.
>>2373007You spawned in Brandenberg didn't you? Lmao.
>>2372928I have only ever played it with default settings and haven't had an issue
>>2373007wait there's no power I can't use the oven. I'm just fucked>>2373011There's no fuggin food in here except some rotten shite. There's a rat in here, I can hear him. And there's rat droppings>>2373017Kek how did you know?I could shout for zombies to bust me out but I have sprinters set to common so it might be quite hairy
>>2372916>lunging turned off.wussmode
is this shit fucking broken? i tried boosting just fitness XP because it's so anemic, but it seems like i'm getting huge XP gains in everything. life and living was giving me like 65 points every tick.
>>2373040>Kek how did you know?Brandenburg spawn is bugged, spawns you in a barricaded building.>>2373041Sandbox game, sorry sweaty.
>>2373155>Sandbox game, sorry sweaty.hey man, make your own kind of music, sing your own special song, but you won't roll with the crips or the bluds playing babby mode.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_IX7TYv30E
Not sure if this was just extreme luck or the intended solution but in a closet that I found after finding a lighter: a sledge hammerLooted a good number of my neighbours. Funnily my house was the only I've found with with prestine barricades. Almost every house is barricaded
>>2373188I listen to The Beatles.
>>2373203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJag19WoAe0
>>2373202I think that area is supposed to have been hit by a tornado.
>Combat Text throws out 100s of errors every minuteDamn.
>>2373155I like the Irvington spawn, you're placed in Dale's house which has his schizo basement with military gear.
>>2373446>you're placed in Dale's house which has his schizo basement with military gearThat's the house they selected for Irvington? Based.
>>2373453I've spawned in it three times in a row since the patch, it is definitely the default spawn.
>>2372807The jannies already banned me for saying it about their buttbuddies, but one of the developers for many years is a self-proclaimed autistic depressed suicidal furry on SSRIs. It's not hard to imagine what the others on the team like Sully are like when you know this.
>>2361589Retanaru it playing it.it looks fucking hard and I don't care for storyline mods, so big pass from me. PZ is a crafting sandbox with zombie combat for me, I don't need a story. the story is make short bats and kill zombies until they're all dead, or die trying.
>>2373643Then you're going to hate Project Zomboid's full release in 8934823948239 years because the game's actual premise involved doing a bunch of different character and story driven scenerios with different gameplay goals. They just made the sandbox mode first as a proof of concept....that they then barely improved on over the course of ten years.
>>2370489...uh. Yeah man, I tried that, and it is how it works. I lost like a third of my field of view.What makes it retarded though is that you can't lose an eye in game, and so you have no reason to actually wear an eyepatch.
>Steam Workshop BetaThis is going to take some time to get used to.
>>2373942>Let's just completely reverse the layout you've all been used to for uh>15 years lol
>>2373971literally change for the sake of changeUI "devs" need to be crucified
Any updates on the NPC mods?
>TFW retards are bitching that updates are breaking mods>Implying they'd rather there not be updates for the actual gameJej, this is what happens when weirdos form parasocial relationships with modders.>REEEE HOW DARE YOU UPDATE THE GAME AS PROMISED TO YOUR CUSTOMERS! YOU SHOULD LEAVE IT THE SAME SO THAT QUIRKCHUNGUSTROONY THE MODDER CAN KEEP HER MODS WORKING!
>>2374473>they'd rather there not be updates for the actual game>implying the updates to the actual game are substantial.
>>2374511>implying the updates to the actual game aren't specific changes the players have been asking for for close to a decade
>>2374513>yfw it's been a decade and we've haven't even gotta two fully released builds
>>2373007>>2373040>>2373202kino
>>2374473why does it take more than a year to iterate one build? furthermore what has substantially changed since B41?
>>2374473>>2374925Vintage Story new build just went stable an hour ago.It's been less than a year (August 2025) since the last stable build.aren't they a smaller team than PZ? with a fraction of the player base? fully 3D game so they can't just write up content on a text pad and slap an icon on it...
>>2374529my favorite part is how they came up with a whole new term for early access part 2 called "unstable"
>>2374473Yeah, I'd rather they not make minor updates that change only a handful of small innocuous things every week.
I haven't tried animals since the initial release with exploding chickens. What's the meta? Are eggs and butter still king and butchering dogshit
>>2375994Yeah pretty muchFishing's good too
>>2374934I feel like zomboid probably suffers from insanely incomprehensible spaghetti code compared to VS
>>2375994>he missed the exploding cows meta
>>2375994butchering is still total dogshit and they'll never fix it because then it would actually be worth putting up with animals and their bullshit.instead just get one (1) milk cow and gg.
>>2360966What made zomboid blow up? Years ago it was niche now even normalfags play it. The youtubers?
>>2376248Week 1 Bandits coming out then getting a lot of coverage
>>2376248>What made zomboid blow up?Zomboid is a streamer-game. Streamers are paid to advertise the game using combinations of mods which makes the game look a lot more exciting and fun than it really is.Then little timmy buys the game, and realizes the game has updated a single time and all the mods that looked fun are broken now.
>>2376248The multiplayer update (b41) almost entirely. Made it flavour of the week friendslop and has ridden that high since
>>2376299I kinda get this vibe. There are so many youtube videos with millions of views but when playing the game itself it is boring as fuck. Since the game is so cryptic to get into people are more inclined to watch someone else play.
>le random tiny closet/bathroom with 12 totally silent zombies crammed inside>including basements with no barrier between you and the immediate crowd>no sandbox toggleif they're this hard up for ways to kill the player then try coding wound infection or weather to actually do somethingflashing doors open/shut instantaneously and cheesing line of sight to combat this (and any other threat) should have already been nerfed, but then there would be no recourse but constantly shrieking in every single place you loot because of this gay and pointless gotcha mechanic
>>2376299>Zomboid is a streamer-game.Streamer games tend to do the heavy lifting by having flashy and clip-worthy moments built into the mechanics, Zomboid isn't really fun to watch unless the streamers themselves are entertaining. I'd say it's more of a Let's Play / "Playthrough Recap" game, like Space Station 13.
>>2376592>Zomboid isn't really fun to watch unless the streamers themselves are entertainingYou can easily make clips of zomboid to make it look super action packed, engaging, etc.That's what they all do, record hours and hours of slop, then cut a 10m compilation that lures in the kiddos.
>>2376248B41 Multiplayer.
New Zomboid speedrun proposal:Zoomboid%The run requirements are:>Drive 1 lap around the Irvington Speedway (any vehicle)>Catch a fish from the P.S. Delilah>Run the four bases at Fossoil Field (Starting at the Home plate, of course)>Read "Book: The Bible" in the March Ridge church.>After completing all four tasks, the run ends when you sleep in the Fallas Lake "Original Zomboid trailer" house. (The one on the westernmost edge of town. The "What happened here. What's happening here. It's not contained..." house.)That's it. That's the whole run.
>>2376912Oh, also, because it probably needs to be said:Vanilla Apocalypse difficulty. Spawn anywhere you want.
>>237365033% =/= 50%>>2376248I believe it was b41>>2376299>Zomboid is a streamer-gameZomboid is a shit streamer game
has anyone explored the entire map
>>2376592>>2376612>>2376948The advertisement doesn't come from the streams itself, the streams are just there to clip farm for hour long youtube movie/challenge videos. Most of those streamers don't get a lot of viewers when they go live, but those videos have absolutely done fuck tons of heavy lifting in convincing people to buy the game
A lot of people get into Zomboid thinking it'll be some awesome multiplayer zombie apocalypse game when it really isn't.Multiplayer servers are looted to fuck and back so you die from malnutrition, or if PVP is allowed, you get KO'd by naked max fit/str niggers stomping your head in.Oh right, lmao, implying multiplayer actually works when most of the time it's disabled!
>>2376961In game? Don't think so. But there's a handy map if you mean "do we know where stuff is": https://b42map.com/
>>2377090I don't know about you guys, but I play exclusively solo and pretend like I'm really that guy who would survive.It's one of the coziest games I know.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3709126801>amazing!!! it works also with wood outside and chemical toiletes?>you need to add a "freaky" trait that makes you happy when you have soiled pants :D>Can female player characters use urinals? I'd imagine in the apocalypse, they would not care where they need to go.>haha why did I pee myself as soon as I started my game? Good morning world I guess>It would be really nice if you could fix the trousers animation. Breaks the immersion a little bit>What good mods you make, friend! I congratulate you>Diapers don’t spawn for some reason>So...would it technically mean that your character can still function without pooping and pissing?>can you make taking a shit longer
>>2376612>>2377085you guys sound kind of jealous of streamers>streamer has fun playing games with an audience>"hurrr they're all STUPID and DECEPTIVE"i understand being dissatisfied with TIS but why do you insist on being booty-blasted about literally everything?
>>2377995>Does deceptive practices>Lol why you mad? What's wrong with a little deception chuddies?What the fuck has happened to the internet?
>>2378005it's not deceptive to stream for hours then do a highlight reel, anymore than it is to play single player as some youtubers do then make a highlight reelif anything the streamers are more honest since you can go on twitch and watch the stream yourself if you disagreeanyway nobody cares except you, i strongly suggest you take up meditation or Have sex or something before you blow a gasket.
>>2377630I have this recurring fantasy where I wake up and I am completely alone in the world. So I can start irl scavving, squat in some house, never pay rent again etc.PZ is the closest thing to making that dream real.
>>2378018>it's not deceptive to stream for hours then do a highlight reelIt literally is when the game is 90% filler.A highlight of CoD matches? Mostly running around and action so who cares.A highlight of Ark Survival Evolved when 90% of the game is waiting for passed out dinosaurs to tame? That's bullshit and you know it.
>>2378043the people playing the game do not consider 90% of the game filler, chud. and obviously neither do the people watching the stream.>streams are social events not just a bunch of mutes watching rando69 loot houseswoah shocking
>>2378057b8
>>2378062stay mad
>>2377995Who are you quoting?
>>2378062it's probably a zoomer who actually believes all that shit unfortunately>streams are valid :)has been the prevailing normalnigger opinion since like 2015
>>2377995He wants to be mad and seethe. I'm still reeling with my sides in orbit over him trying to quote Romero lore to justify his shitfit and then getting btfo'd over it and seething the rest of the thread
>>2378189the amount of impotent seethe in the PZ general is unrealthese threads should be in /r9k/ honestly since it's just non-stop whinging
>>2377784kekautistic modders strike againconsoles can never compete
>>2378128Figures people are shitting up the thread for no reason, I miss when only middle class White adults were allowed on the internet.
>>2378214he doesn't even generally complain about things lemmy or tis are genuinely doing wrong, he just bitches for literal days at a time about nothingburgers i dont get it
>>2379818>>2378214>Samefagging this hard and obviousAt least mix up your grammar styles you retard.
>>2379994what a maroon
>>2380014>b8ing this hard with 4chanx is a thing
>>2380033i don't use that you buffoon.anyway, i tire of this. you are pathetic.
>he's still b8ing
>>2379994>>2380014>>2380033>>2380042You're literally just proving my point nigger
Are you going to actually discuss the game or just keep derailing?
You don't even have to admit you were wrong, you just have to be quiet for once.
Project Zomboid....Broke Me
I'm still not sure if I'd rather focus on long blunt or short blunt.
>Start in Ekron to loot it's gun store>Drive aaaaaaall the way to Valley Station for comfy farm living>Want to start looting all the houses for their ice creams / frozen pastas (Vanilla Foods Expanded)>Need to sleep>Power cuts out
>>2380851long blunt is objectively superior imo but short blunt has more weapon variety
Wow my character did NOT like eating dogfood
I've found a couple of jerry cans, why do they have the same liquid limit as gas cans but with a far worse weight?
>>2382676they're metal and you could fill one with water and toss it on a fire to easily boil a bunch of drinking water (as opposed to the plastic ones) I guess
>>2382862Jerry cans are pretty big though, they should contain more.
>finally find the perfect rural retreat to settle in after weeks of driving around farmland in a van-pulled camper and finding crowds/burnt ruins/tiny bungalows>clear out all the zombies and move everything from neighboring houses over to the new base>keep waking up in the middle of the night in a dead panic and hearing zombies even though they're piled in mass graves outside>run around the yard with a shotgun yelling to draw zombies that aren't there numerous times>eventually realize that some spawned either in the attic or within the ground floor's closed off thick walls, both inaccessible>numerous overlapping growls and sprinters randomizedI have a sledgehammer but trying to get them out feels like tempting fate
>>2383122are you going to just live with the paranoia? you know what you have to do.
>>2383165There were only three zombies. Going to stick pigs and whatever other animals I can find in these trashed hallways
>>2382493get yourself some raw chicken feet, that will make you feel better
>>2382676IRL Jerry cans are sweet because you can stack them, you can easily carry four empty ones or two full ones, they're tough as hell, they float in water even when filled, the pouring nozzle basically makes no spills or 'glugs', and they are designed to expand and contract so temperature is not an issue for them.These are all things that are really really useful IRL but completely omitted from the game, meaning that technically a cardboard box able to be filled with 20l of gasoline would be a better container than a fucking jerry can. It's retarded.
>>2383566Well, like anon said at least you can use them to boil water. I guess...
I have killed almost 5000 zombies and I've never gone more than a couple miles away from Riversideis it even possible to clear out a town or does migration guarantee that I will constantly be dealing with small hordes?Playing the stable build btw
>>2383849IRL they often have coatings on the inside that break down with water, so you'd be drinking pretty toxic water out of them lmao.Plus I don't know if you can boil water in them ingame.
>>2383854>is it even possible to clear out a town or does migration guarantee that I will constantly be dealing with small hordes?Without respawn you can absolutely clear entire towns, it's just going to take a while. Zombies 'spawn' until 28 days on default settings, only after a solid month will you be able to clear a town.If you're playing on B41(stable), the default settings has respawn turned on, which means you can never clear a town ever.
>>2383888I used a custom sandbox, and it's been about 4 months in game
>>2383880you can, you put them on a fire, which you cannot do with a plastic gas can because it'll burn upand hilariously no they're not toxic despite irljust like you can keep a barrel of uncovered milk in your house that will never spoil
>>2383941I might have to grab some jerry cans ingame to use as mass water purification then.
>>2383941>>2383943Has anyone tried building a barrel on top of a fireplace? Now THAT would be purfication performance!
>>2384238>Has anyone tried building a barrel on top of a fireplace?While that would make perfect sense IRL, a big enough fire purifying a whole barrel of water, Lemmy disagrees that anyone in the 90's was capable of such thoughts.Keep in mind he thinks people regularly drink the gasoline from their cars, smash them with hammers, then swallow the keys before parking it at somebody elses house.
>>2384248I am just glad that he has been replaced.
Remember creative mode? What was that, ten years ago now? It was shown off around the same time Rosewood/Riverside got added and then they quietly shelved it, I cannot believe they're still using Tilezed internally. If you think about it, either countless man hours could have been saved by not making ekron/irvington/etc with an ancient toolset or they have a usable version of it on one of their internal builds for official mapping. I suspect it's the latter and it never got released to the public because modders would eat their lunch as usual; nobody would have given a fuck about those three rural towns in B42 if and when chinks are cranking out entire cities that don't look 50% copy-pasted like Louisville.
>>2379994lmao, you absolute loser, you do this every time, every time more than one person rightfully points out your whining and embarassing thread-ruining activities you throw an even more embarassing hissy fit and cry samefag, even though every sane individual would call out your defeatist toddler behavioir eventually. Just kill yourself, dude. It's hopeless.This game is such a nice retard filter. If you're retarded you can't play zomboid. Simple as. Combine this with the fact that there are many retards on 4chan and you get generals like this with the same sweaty content over and over.
>>2384349>If you're retarded you can't play zomboidBut heaps of retards play Zomboid?
>>2384352Yeah. Then they complain and then they stop playing. Good riddance. You have to have at least a minimum of sentience to keep playing this game
Axes are still pretty much the best weapon class in the whole game.>Both one-handed and two-handed versions, so they are more flexible clothing/armor/etc-wise>Cuts through doors faster than anything but maybe a sledgehammer>Cuts through zombies as good as anything else>Cuts down trees so it has good synergy with carpentry, blacksmithing, etc>Is not bugged like every other weapon class to have a minus 1 to effective skill lmao>Only weapon class to have an occupation buff in the form of Axeman>Can be made out of complete garbage from various sources
>>2384349I still think its funny he tried to argue about car condition and then posted screenshots contradicting what he was exaggerating about last thread, it was hilarious>>2384412I used to be a crowbar chad but, yeah, you're not wrong.
>>2384479>he tried to argue about car condition and then posted screenshots contradicting what he was exaggerating about last threadLmao what about car condition?
>>2384495>reeeeeeeeeeee why are these cars in such shit condition the apocalypse just happened but theyre liderally unusable>shows a wrecked car that looks beat to shit because it was in a wreck>all the parts were like, orange so technically it was still drivable>WELL WHY DID IT CRASH THOUGH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>idk nigger it hit a zombie? it hit another car but the other one has since been taken or the other driver didn't eat shit like this one did? maybe it got shot at? there's a million reasons it could happen why do you care>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2384809Cars are all fucked up while parked on people's driveways though?
>>2360966Y is 4chan filled with gooners :sob:
>>2384815cash for clunkers and kars4kids killed the beater market so bad zoomers don't realize how many people were driving around shitboxes back then, it's rural kentucky in 1993 so I think you can handwave the poor white methheads having beaten up cars (and that's *before* they had to drive home panicked through a highway/town full of dead people)
>>2385593Cash for clunkers also had the side effect of kids and young adults not learning how to take care of their vehicles because "that's what a mechanic is for" even for simple shit like changing a tire or oil. It's pathetic, people can't even add wiper fluid anymore. A big win for dealers on multiple fronts, less used cars and a higher capture rate for maintenance. Then you have shit like transponder keys even on cars 25+ years old that if something happens and it stops working you literally have to tow it to the dealer and pay them $300 to push a button to reprogram the key because the machine isn't sold on the consumer market. (Ask me how I know about the last thing)
>>2383941>just like you can keep a barrel of uncovered milk in your house that will never spoilthe top layer of milk forms an impermeable barrier keeping the milk underneath fresh indefinitely
>>2384412The axe is permanently nerfed if you don't have axeman, what are you talking about.>without axeman: slow as fuck>with axeman: normal swing speedAxes are only worth it if you have the trait, they are not easy to make, improvished axe is total dogshit. Hatchets are fairly common and the cleaver isn't bad either, and both count as axes, but it's not the best weapon class. Long Blunt is easily better; there are more weapons, you can craft them from scrap, and they have insane knockdown.
>>2385805Oh yeah, I almost forgot: axes have sharpness whereas long blunt doesn't. Sharpness is a super gay mechanic, they go dull very fast.Not the best weapon class by any means. I save them for killing trees and doors.
>>2385815>Sharpness is a super gay mechanic, they go dull very fastget that maintenance up with long blunt/crowbar and pivot over to axe mid or late game when you have a ton of them lying around if you aren't speccing into axe at char gen, you can cut down like eight trees in a row without needing to sharpen a wood axe at level 4 maintenance
>>2385840why would i pivot to axe when i probably have at least 4-5 levels or more in long blunt? terrible advice. i'm already on the track to mastery with long blunt. you should use whatever weapon you have skill in at chargen because of the way XP works. otherwise you are always at a disadvantage. too bad there is no axe or long blunt weapon book like there is for long blade.maintenance will go up no matter what. it doesn't cancel out the need to sharpen an axe constantly.
>>2385593>kars4kidsEver check WHICH kids exactly benefits from "kars4kids"? It's exclusively for jewish israeli settler children who get the money. Nobody else, also since it's an israeli 'charity' there's no auditing or verification of how much money actually goes to those kids.
>>2384815Yeah but that's not the picture he used>>2385593This too. C4C removed over a third of the automobiles that were on the road at the time over the duration of its timespan. It had a second order effect of permanently driving up used and new car prices by a shitton too - for reference, my sister's first car in 1997 was a shitbox my parents bought her for 250 dollars and a six pack. It wasn't unusual for people to buy used cars for anywhere from 400-800 dollars cash.Today the average cost of used cars is 25-30k and I've never, locally, seen anyone asking for less than 10k.Yet some people like to pretend that somehow, this was all a good thing actually, this despite the fact that unlike today's used cars, old shitbox beaters could be repaired effectively indefinitely due to not having all the gadgets and bullshit bundled into vehicles made since the year 2000.
>>2385805>they are not easy to makeLiterally sharp stones and sticks makes an axe, which will outcompete a surprising amount of weapons outside of high-carving bats and shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhR7IdtG08ITl;DwB42 added constant parking brake for most cars, which fucks up towing mechanics. Thanks Lemmy.
>>2387638>removing the wheels make towing easier
>>2387638I don't think I've EVER towed anything
>>2387758It's useful for when you want to drag cars as barricades, spare parts, or trailers.
>>2387763>It's useful for when you want to drag cars as barricadesAnd when is that ever useful?
>>2387770>And when is that ever useful?When you turn 'zombies become crawlers near cars' off for being nonsensical. Then make a barrier around your house or police station or whatever.Also trolling in Multiplayer by building shit on roads or dragging cars into commonly used paths.
>>2387758I don't think I've ever done it in singleplayer.I've done it a billion times playing with friends tho, because someone is inevitably gonna miss a turn and wreck the one good car we had, with all the shit we were carrying to our hideout, so now I'm towing it with a shit heap to bring it back home until we inevitably run out of space because the yard is filled with trashed vehicles and nobody have the mechanic skill AND the spare parts to fix any of them.
>>2387791Wow its just like living in kentucky irl what the heck
>>2387758if nothing else, you can tow a box van and use it as a secondary inventory space, with it's huge capacity that's effectively doubling or more your driveable inventory. however, towed cars imo behave like shit, so a trailer is better.
>>2387774>zombies crawling under cars doesnt make sensefucking lol
>>2388038They aren't exactly the brightest bulbs, they just walk into something endlessly. Why would they suddenly lay down and start crawling unless already wounded?
>>2388041semi smart zombies like the ones from the first season of the walking dead are cool as fuck
>>2388057Zomboid devs should just outright drop all their retarded out-of-game lore and just have a half dozen pre-set modes to represent various zombie fictions.
>>2388069thats what sandbox mode is for, modding if you really want to nail that.
>>2388084Sure, but 'just sandbox it!' is a nonsense argument as game should ideally be designed around an actual intent.Zomboid's biggest issue for a good while now, is that seemingly not even the developers know what zomboid is 'supposed' to be.It's a roguelike! Oh wait no, it takes way too long to 'beat'.It's an RPG! Well no, skills don't really work like that and there's no real character building.It's an isometric action game! Not really, so many nerfs to the action part of the game that you'll get your ass eaten if you swing a few too many times.EtcZomboid could've turned into a pretty fun action isometric game with lite-RPG elements ala Alien Shooter 2 or something. But they went for a faggy nihilistic millennial game instead.
>>2388093i think sandbox mode is a good answer to that, but they should add more detailed ways to do shit like change values etc etc.Although i do agree with that "biggest issue" thing. Its dragging the game down heavily and i hope the new guy they brought in is able to put the game back on track
>>2388041Aren't they set to "basic navigation" by default? They clearly understand that they can get into houses by smashing windows as opposed to just beating down doors and, unless you disable it, can roll and flop over fences and waist high obstacles to get at you. Why wouldn't they be able to also crawl under a vehicle?
>>2388093Sandbox games are designed around the idea that the player will use the sandbox to make their own fun. Zomboid has roguelite, rpg, etc. elements but it is and has fundamentally been for probably at least 8 years now a sandbox game.
>>2388215They focus doors if you go through a door, and focus windows if they see you go through a window.If they saw the player crawl under a vehicle maybe that would allow them to crawl under, but you can't actually do that ingame.
>>2388219>but it is and has fundamentally been for probably at least 8 years now a sandbox gameThen why all the lore? Characters? Why restrict the setting so harshly if ultimately it's a 'fuck it, go wild!' game?If you make a sandbox game, making the entire map identical to each other bit, is not the way to go, lmao. Imagine if every location in Kenshi was just the starting town but larger/smaller. Jej
>>2388228>why (x)Because you can change almost all of it in the sandbox settings. There are also plenty of sandbox games with lore and characters.
>>2388349>There are also plenty of sandbox games with lore and charactersAnd they're usually pretty shit and boring too. Don't give me a whole pre-made world then make me unable to do shit in it.At least Dwarf Fortress has each world be proc-genned.
>>2388349no anon you just dont get itproject zomboid needs to come out of the box playing EXACTLY how i want it to i dont want to have to finagle any settings to control my experience reeeeeeee!
>>2388513>A game shouldn't be good out of the box>Shouldn't have actual intended ways of playing eitherLolwut
>Lemmy isn't a spiteful mutant by the way, it's just a coincidence he adds content to make fun of players
>>2388574>any time someone points out how i'm a whiny little bitch seething about nothingburgers they MUST be trolling>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>what's that?>you think jumping fences is too easy in this game?>here's your testicular torsion mod!Jesus Christ
>>2388990Why?...
>>2388990Finally, the twist PZ always needed!
>>2388990there is no scenario where i open my nutsack, whether it's the apocalypse or not
>>2388041>>2388057>>2388069Sometimes I feel like instead of trying to make zombies make sense at all or feel threatening it would be better if they were just some kind of non-human creatures.
>>2389390they are essentially non-human, they have none of the characteristics of a human.>deathless>mindless>cannibalisticthey are humanoid automatons in most media, with varying degrees of capability. the later Romero films notwithstanding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqAK-HXo-M0
>>2388990NIGGA MY NUTS
Honestly the game's base difficulty should start you a few months into the outbreak. It's way more interesting rather than fresh food and working power everywhere. World looks cooler too
>>2391183i'm fine with that if they give you methods to craft more useful things like kerosene and the creation of small steam engines to provide electricity. a very small steam engine is well within a garage mechanic's ability.the game needs reasons to keep playing beyond a few months, and finding the correct materials to build engines or perform chemistry would provide long-term goals.
>>2389390>Sometimes I feel like instead of trying to make zombies make sense at all or feel threatening it would be better if they were just some kind of non-human creatures.That's the issue with Zomboid being set around Romero styled zombies. They're great for film but they suck in terms of gameplay.Hence why 99% of zombie games do romero+runner+special type infected. Or some combination of them. Also why no other game has them be a fucking 1 hit KO.Weirdly enough populating Zomboid with the whole Resident Evil 1-3 enemy lineup would be KINO.
>>2391369Imagine an alternate universe where TIS actually provide a proper framework for zombies so you could mod your own special zombies to spice up your game, instead of the clusterfuck we have now where you can't even mod changing your shoe colors without it breaking the entire game the following minor update.
Annotated maps usually being for places really fucking far away (or worse, in Louisville) is retarded.Why is a dickhead in Muldraugh talking about a dead guy in Riverside?
>>2391369i would hate this game if it had corny Resident Evil zombies, no fucking thank you. that shit is stupid as fuck.zombies are scary because they number in the hundreds of thousands or millions, because they don't die from hunger or exposure. they're just relentless little murder machines, and they individual flimsiness can easily lead to overconfidence and complacency.
>>2391496What makes Resident Evil Zombies particularly corny? They're practically Romero zombies (except not actually undead, they die to body shots although it takes a lot)
>>2391511Anon could you at least try discussing the game?
>>2391496?????Zombies in RE are Romero style zombies. It's just that unless you burn them or destroy the head, they eventually turn into Crimson Heads or Lickers. Are you maybe talking specifically about the remake of 2 where they take a bajillion shots to the head to damage for some reason?
>>2391520Zombies don't always turn into lickers when 'downed' in RE, it's mostly the living ones that eventually turn. Downed zombies have a good chance of getting eaten by other zombies, as they're still living things that need food.>>2391525Discuss the game, retard.
>>2391538Anon the thread has like 4 anons total and gets a post a day on average. It's uninhabitable because sincerely nobody likes this stupid game so nobody posts about it.
>clearing out an area>fire off a few shots from a tiny quiet hand gun>have to fight 5x the amount of zombies now Guns are pretty much useless unless you have infinte ammo to waste
>>2391932You're not thinking about how useful drawing in all those zombies is.If the zombies are concentrated in one area, they aren't in other areas. Making most of the city totally safe.Shoot a shotgun in a place you dont' care about, hang around until the zombies show up, then run away. Congrats you effectively cleared most of the city.
>>2391979ThisRetanaru will use guns outside to draw all the zombies outside, so he doesn't get jumpscared while looting.
Shotguns and rifles not overpenetrating zombies is bullshit.A close range 12 gauge buckshot round will go clean through a person like they were made out of playdough, doubly so for rotted corpses.A .223 round will do much of the same..308 basically doesn't give a shit and will go right through four people and then keep on going for good measure.
>>2391496Zombies are inherently not scary due to the fact they have human bodies.Humans aren't scary monsters.
>>2392087>Humans aren't scary monsters.When a pack of 20 feral blacks circle you, you sing a different tune.
>>2392098>human
>>2392153My bad, sorry.
>>2391183If they ever add a Storymode, they should time-jump a few months or even years at certain checkpoints.
>start new run>immediately OP seed with a working car at my chosen safehouse and a hunter's basement right next door>begin clearing out the streets around my base>lucky loot all around>open a 2x1 closet>immediately turn 180 after opening the door by accident (was holding the right mousebutton, ready to swing)>get bitten in the jugular>you survived 3 daysFUCK.New run starts now.
>>2392309The isometric perspective and janky combat is why turning infection-mortality to 'never' is entirely valid.A run shouldn't end because of jank, that's retarded.
b42map.com/?4010x13650I love this house, are there any others like it?
Still love how in the same patch they made wells have tainted water in them and limited their capacity, they added infinite purified water water pumps.I just don't understand what the hell they want.
>>2360966I'm tempted to try PZ again, but these days is there any kind of "end game" content beyond surviving? I'll get a little hidey hole set up with a small stockpile of supplies, but then I struggle to find goals for what to do afterwards. The next closest game to PZ I can think of is CDDA, which has plenty of big goals and end game stuff to seek out, but sometimes 3d graphics and real time gameplay are nice.Iirc, the last time I played PZ cars weren't a thing and they had just recently implemented zombies pulling sheet ropes down from windows (to destroy the base meta at the time).
Almost shat myself
>>2392435> is there any kind of "end game" content beyond surviving?No.
>>2392454Have they added any reason to explore beyond simply hoarding supplies?
>>2392463>Have they added any reason to explore beyond simply hoarding supplies?Also, no.
>>2360966I really really wish Zomboid had a win condition. Even just a simple one would make this game so much better for me and help me engage with the systsems. >HURRR DURRR "this is how you died" Suck my dick. What a bunch of crap. Can't I drive out of city limits for a game over? Take a helicopter out? SOMETHING. ANYTHING? >Nah, just survive until you die lol. Ok? How boring...
>>2392478That would take actual effort, and also reveal how quickly you can 'win' the game. You can generally 'win' in the first month, first couple of weeks if you're good, and first week if you know what you're doing.Especially baffling as the fucking game's initial version gave you a goal, take care of your wife.
>>2392465Any chance they've added some procedural map generation or something, so I'm not exploring the same handful of towns over and over? Have they finally managed to make bunkers or sewer systems below the ground (can we dig out our own bunkers)?
>>2392498>Any chance they've added some procedural map generation or somethingYes.But only the forests outside the map, which are randomly generated and...Really suck balls anyways alongside having bugs.>Have they finally managed to make bunkers or sewer systems below the groundNo.>can we dig out our own bunkers?No.But they added basements, with a catch!They don't have any natural lighting so once the power turns off they are 100% useless.Oh and they are RNG spawned, so you might find a bunch of basements, or you might find none, isn't that fun?There's a few pre-placed basements but they are pretty rare.
>>2392504Please tell me they've managed to implement NPCs. At this point, it sounds like they've done basically nothing over the past few years.>They don't have any natural lighting so once the power turns off they are 100% useless.Did they remove generators and lamps from the game?
>>2392509>Please tell me they've managed to implement NPCsCome on, you know the answer to this already.>At this point, it sounds like they've done basically nothing over the past few yearsThey updated the lighting engine/system (now everything is darker so you have to take Cats Eyes or be functionally blind most of the time) and added MMORPG style skill grinds and Ark Survival Evolved type tech trees. >Did they remove generators and lamps from the game?No, but having to run a generator 24/7 just to be able to see is a pain in the ass.
>>2392514I guess it works if you're hanging with the bros in multiplayer. Shame I don't have any bros to play with nor the time to hang with randos and maintain a base on public servers
>>2392531I never understood the fascination with generators.You're probably going to die before needing them anyways, and you can set up a base to not require them because...Why do you need to freeze food when you can catch it from the fucking river any time you want?
>>2392535I was referring to the general state of the game, not generators lol.
>>2392539Oh lol.Give the game a shot for a day or two, try getting blacksmithing up and running (good luck, lmao)
I truly regret ever buying this awful game.
>>2392546It's fun if you seriously fuck with the sandbox settings, but that's obviously stupid if the actual game itself sucks ass.
>>2392542I'll give it a shot, because God knows I don't need to fall into a pit of CDDA unstable 'tism quite yet. What town should I start in, and what mods should I get?
>>2392549No mods. Muldraugh start. Good luck!
>>2392548I tried sandbox and it was fun for all around 3 hours until I looted everything and brought it to my base. This game fundamentally lacks everything a game should have. What it does have feels extremely half baked and unfinished. Its an okay game if you want to larp as the last person alive in a barren world simply existing.
Veteran or Lumberjack?
>>2392586Lumberchad. More versatility and their buffs are more useful.>But what about panic?Drink some booze before fighting if you really need to>But what about discomfort?Any amount of armor that makes you uncomfortable is too much and won't save you anyways
>>2392589I disable comfort anyway, sure wish we could disable bored through the sandbox settings.
>>2392592Bored is easy to get rid of, just don't stand inside all the time. You can read a gorillion books in the woods and your character is happy as ever.Read a book indoors and somehow it makes the m depressed though.
>>2392087I find humans a little scary.>not rational>prone to violence, especially Americans
>>2392309>turn on dev mode>heal wound>uncheck infectionthis is always an option
>>2392957>especially AmericansYee fucking haw
>>2392546you probably should play it instead of listening to the resident schizo who hates the game.it's fun, stop letting him set your expectations. mods help.
i think i miss my b41 shotguns
>The chud in command made it so M16's actually spawn sometimes on army zombies>Instead of Lemmy's weird view of 90's America where US soldiers run into battle holding sticks of beef jerky and can openers
>>2392967Adding mods to Zomboid is like adding mods to Fallout 4.Yeah sure it's not like they make things worse? But you're polishing a turd. Save yourself the time and just play the turd and criticize the developers, or don't play it at all. Modding the game is doing their work for them.
>>2392988this is victim mentality. the steam workshop is right there. one click, enable mods. already you have a better game.rimworld lives and dies by it's modding comunity. that game would be incredibly boring if modding had not been embraced. so it is with PZ.modding is what makes the sandbox, you can't expect the devs to think of every toy. all they can do is make it as painless as possible. TIS doesn't even do that but the modders persevere.
>>2392997>Victim mentalityThat's not what you think it means, lmao.Modding a good game to make it great is kickass. Like modding Call of Pripyat or Rimworld or something.Modding Skyrim to be passable is...Not great. Neither is modding Zomboid to be less than passable.
>>2393002if you dont like the game so much, why play it?
>>2393002modding skyrim is a choremodding PZ is easy, and there are tons of modsyou are a loser and you will always be a loser if you don't stop being a loser, loser.you have two options: mod the game or fuck off. PZ is a game for mods. stop pretending it isn't.
>>2393007I barely play it, mostly when patches release. It's not like the game is complete and utter garbage not worth playing. It has potential, and why wouldn't I be there to judge it's progress and discuss it's shortcomings?>>2393008Modding Zomboid isn't easy at all, making mods for the retarded game sucks dick when you have so many dumbass files to alter and add when they could be self contained a lot more. PZ is not a game for mods, most players don't use mods aside from maybe a couple QOL ones at most, that's such a cope.
>>2393013no, you are the one that is coping, because you are addicted to victimhood.just stop playing, touch grass and stop shitting up the thread above all else.
>>2393021>Calling a mediocre-at-best game out for what it is, is being a victimThat's not how things work, lmao.Have you actually made any Zomboid mods?
>>2392098> a pack of 20 feral blacks circle youSo an average day working in a warehouse?
>>2392404That's what happen when your team doesn't communicate
>>2392973Shotguns were nerfed hard but all other weapons are now fantastic.
>>2392483Oh wow. I never knew that about the early build. I loved watching this game develop, and I like watching people survive on youtube, but as for myself, after a few days I tap out because it feel so pointless to continue.
>>2393558if you don't set goals for yourself you are ngmi, maybe Team Fortress 2 is more your lane.
>>2393689TF2 is w/e. Not a big fan. And thats what i am sayin'. What goal??? Survive for a week? Okay. Two weeks? a Month? Then what? SNOOOOORESVILLE.We need a win condition. Even if it is impossibly hard like a Noita type of ending.
>>2393963the win condition is what you make it, but if you want a hard goal: make a safehouse in every town. clear LV. reach 1 million kills. get every skill to 10. get NIMBLE to 10. make a full forge setup. makes swords and level long blade to 10. find one of every single car including the NASCAR and restore them to mint condition. see how far off the map you can drive from Ekron.
I believe Sunflower Seed might be the best food source in the game. I'm playing modded so these values might be different, but each one provides 150 calories (I assume this is like a handful of seeds not a single fucking seed obviously), some fats, protein and carbs, -5 hunger, they last forever afaik, and you get 10 from every dried sunflower. 20 sunflower can be dried in a rack giving you 200 seeds per rotation, and it only takes 2 days to dry.you can plant a field of sunflowers and eat for months if not years.
>>2392957>not rational>pronce to violence...but enough about bongs being molested and beheaded at home and nothing being done about it to not offend muslimswhat are the implications of a jihad against the undead?
>>2393990Great suggestions, I'm falling asleep already.
>>2394412>I believe Sunflower Seed might be the best food source in the gameFish is. Takes the least effort to catch, can bloatmaxx you pretty quickly, can be found naturally all over the map.Keep in mind it takes 10 whole days of starvation to go from 85 to 75 weight, and 'underweight' doesn't actually hurt you for another 40 fucking days when you weigh only 35 kilograms.That gives you 50 days to catch a fish large enough to pack on the pounds, more than enough time to scoot around the whole map eating naturally found mushrooms, lettuces, etc with foraging to keep the hunger moodle away.
>>2394675>can be found naturally all over the map.literally can only be found in bodies of water, muldraugh and rosewood do not have easy access to water at least until the zombie population is thinned out, and even then it is not a hike but a drive away. valley station has little water and is spread out, requiring driving most likely to fish. LV is of course water poor except by the river. driving every day to fish is not particularly viable, and you will be driving frequently because fish spoils, unless you are storing it in a fridge. also, loud noises scare fish, so if there's a meta event or something you could lose your fishing day.if you base right next to water it's very good, but only if you are a short hike from a body of water, preferably the major rivers or lakes. there needs to be better farming methods of getting calories. i'm experimenting with pigs but they don't breed very fast at all. also, fun fact, i had a dairy cow, that mysteriously stopped being pregnant after i reloaded a save. i assume this is a bug and not a random miscarriage less than two weeks after a pregnancy. i'm trying to get more and a STRONG BLACK BVLL to keep them producing milk.
>>2395019There's 5 whole bodies of water all around Muldraugh to fish from lmao. And you really only need 1.Rosewood only has 1 nearby, but then again why are you basing in Rosewood anyways? It's the shittiest vanilla town.And again, you have over 10 days to get to water and gulp down 20 kilograms of fish to get fat again. If you can't do that, it's on you.Calories=fattnessLiterally anything=Satiety You can keep a character from suffering hunger damage from lettuce leaves and foraged mushrooms.
>>2395053all i'm saying is, it's best to have a diversified food supplyi am currently processing these sunflower heads i gathered in Valley Forge, I took maybe 20 plants from a garden that has about 100 and it's going to provide me with over a thousand seeds all told. i can snack on those for months without having to spend a moment fishing, if i supplement with a stick of butter i'll have almost constant double chevrons. extremely easy to get fat and stay fat with zero extra effort.but yes fishing is very viable, provided you are near water. and get the first few levels. and get a good spot.
>>2395091>Valley ForgeStation*had a civil war flashback there
>>2395094i mean war of independence______ :-D ____________
>>2395091There's really no reason to have diversified food supply when the character literally needs to starve for 40 days to actually die, outside of 'hunger death' which can be avoided by eating what is effectively cardboard.If you want to go through the effort of farming, that's fine. But it's a self imposed challenge.
>>2395170there are lots of good reasons to not starve yourself, like carry weight and combat disadvantages to being thin. maintaining your weight somewhere in the 75-85 range is optimal and any deviation is suboptimal.which is achievable with fishing but, again, fishing has opportunity cost. i find the opportunity costs of farming minimal. i turn off seasons though, because i'm not going to wait six months to start farming. i've never even survived six months.the funny thing is almost no one plays more than a few months so these arguments like what is the best long-term food, what is the best weapon overall, etc. are largely moot. the best weapon is whatever is on hand. the best food is fish, because you won't be playing into winter anyway.
>>2393963
>>2395212Its incredibly hard to starve yourself unless you fall into the noobtrap of thinking canned vegetables has a lot of calories.
>>2392087what makes a (singular) zombie scary (which is rarely ever explored in media but is briefly touched upon in some radio dialogue from zomboid) is that it goes against all laws of nature and normalcy; there is no life behind the eyes of a zombie yet they will stare at you. it has no soul yet it feels bitter hatred towards you. it has no bodily functions yet it hungers. it has no energy yet it can pursue you, so on and so forth. it's one and only desire is to tear apart and consume the living, never stopping unless its killed. the combination of inhumanity and humanity is what makes a zombie compelling. just imagine how you would feel if a relative or someone you love died, feeling the weight and grief of such an event only to see their remains begin moving and essentially be puppeteered by some illness to kill you and spread itself.what makes (multiple) zombies is scary is that everything ive mentioned earlier is multiplied by 100x. imagine being surrounded with no way out watching them shamble over eachother trying to eat you alive all the while it fucking stinks like crazy because there are dozens if not hundreds of decaying corpses approaching you.>>2392098TRUE>>2389390Zombies arent meant to make sense and any media that tries to make them "realistic" (if romeroesque) fucking sucks. The only kind that get away with it is the kind that basically just turns them into rabid and insane people via an extremely viral and volatile virus (28 days and all of its subsequent copies)
>>2396960Attaching all that to what appears to be a shuffling dude with a skin condition isn't going to cut it, it's like trying to frighten me with a ravenous penguin.
remember when people were acting like the game was saved because they got a new director who made like 3 value changes then fucked off
>>2399474So far the game is improving faster than it was before, in what way is that possibly a bad thing?Are NPC's still never coming? Sure.But hey at least the fun-police have fucked off out of the development pipeline.
>>2392973But the JS2000 still fucks. The real question is: What's actually better? I tried using Pistols in my last run. Let's just say I don't even pick them up anymore when I find them.
>>2398988>Attaching all that to what appears to be a shuffling dude with a skin condition isn't going to cut it, it's like trying to frighten me with a ravenous penguin.I dont think you realize that basically every concept in horror when boiled down to its most basic, absurd elements almost immediately becomes banal, boring and ofcourse; not scary. These criticisms are fine on a personal level but it just kinda becomes lame and a little gay to view it as an objective fact rather than an opinion
>>2399474The game's balancing has seen a comical increase in quality and doesnt suck as much as it did before they hired the new guy. I dont doubt that the game will improve now that there is a faggot who isnt retarded as lemmy has actual say in how things are implemented
>>2400050Almost all zombies in project zomboid couldn't be described as anything else. Most of them are just slowly moving people with some discoloration, what else would I call them?
Y'all would fuck zombie pussy if it was fresh
>>2399582i want to use gun but the noise they make just makes them hard to justify. i am a melee chad. it gets overwhelming when you fire a gun and draw in every zombie not just in front of you but all the ones behind you as well that were hiding in trees and shit.
>>2400679I only start using guns once I've found a few hundred shotgun shells. Then it's just a matter of circling around an open space and making a mad dash to safety once you're out of ammo.
>>2387638I have no idea why they insist on towing being dogshit, every version of the game since vehicles got added has had a mod to un-fuck towing values - oft-changed but never for the better - and make it reasonable.The real solution to vehicle balancing and their standout usefulness is raising their fuel consumption, SOD2 has a more arcadey draining rate so you're stopping to fuel often (at risk of getting caught with your pants down) instead of stretching one tank out for days. God knows there are enough gas stations on the map at this point prevent MP monopolizing. All bad towing does is inadvertently nerf innawoods playstyles, a pick-up truck should be able to consistently pull a trailer or camper down a dirt road. Making them fragile didn't stop people from doing donuts in reverse and cheesing hordes with spare cars either.
Did they change how depression works? I'm playing a Veteran character but they're ALWAYS depressed. Even after I clear it by reading books and eating nice stuff by the end of the day they're MISERABLE.Is it being covered in blood? Is it because they always have kneed and elbow pads on (even though veteran turns off discomfort)What the fuck
>>2401209Instead of making fuel costs retarded, just make maintaining the battery a bigger deal. Even if you keep a bunch of spares in the trunk, you'll still have to expose yourself to uninstall the current one and install the new one, or to use tools to work on the current battery installed.>Finding a crashed car to use jumper cables to fix your own shitty batterywould be kino
>>2401349Desensitized removes all panic sources except for nightmares, and increases your chance of having nightmares. Go take some meds, or read a good book, or eat some ice cream. Also clean yourself up, being covered in blood ordinarily both panics and makes your character miserable, but veterans only get miserable instead.
>chance to catch fish is linked to temperature, below -10c is the lowest chance>the game doesn't actually check the temperature of the world, it checks the temperature where the player is so you can build a campfire and fish like its summerGuess I don't need to find farm animals after all and will be just fine through winter. Anglerchads just keep winning
>>2402037kek
>>2402037No fucking way this is true. Wtf
>>2401349Veteran is immune to discomfort and panic, not saddness.Eating shitty food, or food made from the same ingredients (lettuce, lettuce, lettuce and tomato salad) makes your character depressed.I think Stress also affects sadness, so you could be stressed the fuck out.
>>2402037>>2402228>>2402364100% trueIt checks for ambient temperature not world-temperature.So surrounding yourself with a campfire or two makes fish appear.
>>2401349>I'm playing a Veteran character but they're ALWAYS depressedThat's just the average veteran experience
>>2360971Do not worry man.We will get the NPCs and quest in late 2015 at most.Trust me, the devs would not delay it again.Sarcasm aside. I swear I will have grandchildren before Zomboid gets NPCs at this rate.
>>2402037>>2402509lollmao evenPlease be real.
>>2403321It's real, the code checks for ambient temperature, which makes no sense.
>>2403321>>2402364https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/80783-b42-no-fish-in-winter/
>>2403323>>2403351Fantastic.Why is the meat cleaver still counted as an axe?
>>2403362Meat Cleaver and Sickle are both super lightweight axes for some reason.Which makes them comically powerful with axeman and good skills.
>>2403372Indeed, which is why I'm asking. I currently have an armoury of meat cleavers and sickles.
>>2403373They are vaguely used like axes.
>>2403351>February LAST YEAR>oil still requires 30 seed paste made from 30 seedsdo these motherfuckers just ignore certain bugs? what the fuck are they doing?
single holstein cow gave me 14L of cum.that's 2.8 sticks of butter, 9k calories.moo.
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>>2405002I kidnapped my first cow in a game a few days ago and was surprised that the milk didn't go bad.>>2405048>Queasy>NervousWhich RNG did you in?
>>2405058Fever. It was my first playthrough in 3 years too. I've never gotten this far before. I didn't even realize what was happening.
>>2405106you've never made it two weeks? are you playing with sprinters or something?
>>2405129No I've barely played the game. I played it for the first time around 2023 but couldn't get into it because I needed a lot of mods to play with my siblings. Now I'm getting more into the game and I'm using fewer mods so it wouldn't lag.
58F and i'm hot in a tank top and jeans, shits fucked.when did the trend of constantly breaking things start exactly? it's like every patch their is some bone-headed fucking bug. surely they're not touching every system with these patches so why does this shit happen? is their code just that fucked?
>>2405252>extreme painDo you have a sour wound or bandage that needs changed? Body temperature rises in response to infection/fever so you might be in the early stages of sickness
>>2405276i did four sets of pushups to get 5 strength.i'm sure its a bug, the forum has people complaining about it.
when are they gonna unfuck XP? they've "balanced" sandbox presets and traits so surely they'll "balance" core game systems instead of things people can change themselves?this is what you get for building a craftsmen's fence at level 7 if you start with 1 point and read the book. lol.
>>2405368forgot to add with fast learner >>2405129but still... you get dick if you don't read the book.the problem is the book gives an insane multiplier to overcome the nerf if you are unskilled, but it gives the same multiplier if you have skill.the meta is to start with as many skills as possible, if you want to level skills. absolutely start with maintenance and a weapon skill or you are fucking yourself.noobs won't understand any of this, the game is one big noob trap.
>>24053841 month 24 days into the game and look what i can do by min-maxingstarted as a mechanic
There used to be a mod that imported a lot of RE3 nemesis weapons and mechanics into the game. It's too bad that they never got updated to b42. I wonder how hard it would be to make them b42 compatible?
>>2406632The bare minimum you'd be doing is converting the .txt files into .json files and reformatting every line of code to the new format, and also reprogramming at least some of it to hook into the unified weapon systems otherwise even if the weapon might spawn in and be usable, you won't get XP for using it.
>>2406632STARS...
>>2405252>>2405276it's literally a bug where if you exercise your body term maxes out and stays there until you reload the savejesus
>>2406673IIRC there's also the bug where your temperature can reach NAN, which continues in saves as well.
>>2406678i burned through so much of my purified water because of this shit ass bug, at least being stuck at home getting sleepy by 2pm i got a lot of shit done around the base but fuck...getting to the point i almost wished Notch would come out of retirement and take over development of this game.
>>2406688If Notch took over development he'd add even more needless busywork, then sell the game to Microslop who then never develops it again lmao.
>>2406694can you imagine the TIS butthurt if Notch made another billion dollars selling PZ to microslop kek
>>2406699PZ isn't remotely worth as much as Minecraft.Minecraft is basically the golden example of 'early access' turning out okay and everyone and their grandma knows what Minecraft is.PZ somehow had a major patch that made just about everything worse, and only autists and trannies know about the game's existence. It's kind of baffling that Chud's progress on fixing the game is going pretty well, but most of the work is reverting shit to B41 sensibilities.
>>2406637Fug...>>2406655I know the game basically drowns you in ammo now, but as scarce as ammo could be before, finding a reloading tool and gunpowder to make different kinds of ammo was so cool. And the guns all had prefabbed attachments that made them great finds, like the EAGLE being a long range pistol because of its scope.
landlords HATE the bus dweller
>Can carry satchels with backpacks>Can't carry duffelbags with backpacksWhy?
>>2406885>can't carry two dufflebags criss crossed on your back >Can't carry a backpack on your front and backThere's a lot of weird ergonomic things not modelled ingame, annoyingly
>>2406673>suffer from severe hyperthermia because you exercised for an hour
>>2405368Some things are easy if you know the quirks.>drive to Ovo Farms>fill truck with eggs>put them in the oven>here's your cooking level 10, bro
>>2407024You can also fill ovens full of bugs, each bug is like cooking a meal lmao.
>>2406885Your prayers have been heard, but only by the community: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3698401476
>>2407164>Fannypacks+webbingEhhhhhhh I think that wouldn't work.I own an alice belt+suspenders just like the game depiction and assuming it has the actual pouches around the belt, no way you could fit fannypacks too.
>>2407164>Fannypacks+webbingNo thank you.
I like adding these useless patches to my clothes.
>>2407024even CDDA with it's fuckload of foods and recipes doesn't let you put whatever you want together and call it a meal. in PZ there's no penalty for some disgusting slop in a pan. in CDDA you have to make recipes that actually work right down to the spices used. even their jungle juices have to be recognized Russian swill of some sort.
>>2407024>here's your cooking level 10, broThe funniest thing is that cooking is genuinely pretty worthless, outside of simple 'make raw meat cooked and therefore edible' stuff.You might literally burn more calories waddling around getting ingredients in your kitchen to cook, than the meal bonus provides. It's that pointless.
>>2407513you are guaranteed to use more calories because of the huge negativity calorie black hole>noob makes food>"hmm i'm still hungry">runs out to get more food>has no idea he's putting himself back into -2400 calories>surprised he's still hungry after his meal of canned carrots
>>2407641I love the fact that zomboid characters can gulp a solid pound of butter and still be ravenously hungry in an hour.
>>2407647i love how you can eat fucking bugs and the occasional mushroom for days then sit down and consume 500 fats and balloon up like an american.
>>2407654That's not quite how it works though? Fats/Carbs by themselves don't 'do' anything in the game. They only work off of your calorie-count.Which is of course total bullshit, carbs/fats ARE CALORIES, Lemmy the resident retard that he is, doesn't understand how our body gains calories from food.
>>2407165There exists an ALICE specific buttpack(irl at least), the nomenclature is like "Field Pack, 3 Day Training" but I agree it would be difficult to wrap a regular butt pack around with the ALICE belt.
>>2407669I always thought the ALICE system ingame should be way more customizable with various pouches, attachment slots for knives, tools, etc.
>>2407682It should be. But this is TIS we're talking about.
>>2407682>>2407683CDDA has a more intelligent inventory system than a game made my a supposedly professional game development company.
about how many zombies do you think are at the LV checkpoint? on high pop i've killed about 600 and it feels like i honestly just started to thin it out. still can't walk through; but it's no longer completely choked.
>>2408181Last playtrough it was roughly 900ish but i was shooting around and attracting every single zombie nearby so i would never have to worry again. Sometimes i've had as low as 100 zombies.
>>2408316i wanted until a month had passed to start, with respawn off i should eventually get through them.it's not glamorous but it's honest work. probably killed 800 so far...
Someone should start a sever with the gender dysphoria mod so we can create a gang of roving troons on the search for estrogen
>>2408493the fucking what now
>>2408557Educate yourself sis.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3491927761
>>2408715>another bait poststick to criticizing TIS not the insane tranny modders, there's enough shit as it is here
>>2408715>the normal people asking if test gives strength/xp boostsbased
>>2408715>inb4 dilation mod
>>2408715>>2408788>yeah im trans, male to alpha male
>>2409110JEJ
Any ero mods?
>>2408181Checkpoint+camp has about 2000+ zombies.
The Ark is really kino so far guys...
>>2410273i find story mods really fucking boring, and like 80% of the fun for me is looting, finding those key items, and building a base. all of which is done for you in The Ark. you just have the story and some looting which doesn't really matter because the bunker has fuckloads of stuff. and shitass bandits of course which can end your game for you.i can't see myself playing it, let alone enjoying it.
>>2410662The Ark is an actual video game though. With a story, npc's, actual tangible goals (like "go to this town, find an oil tanker, fix it up and drive it back here to refill the base's oil before it runs dry. or don't and let us all fucking die i guess lol"). The combat is really fun and the looting is made fairly interesting by the radiation mechanic. The only thing is I wish it had an actual save/load feature instead of having to copy and paste my save file, since the mod itself recommends save scumming so you don't lose all your progress if you die.
>>2410130my goal is LSU. i want access to the library.i'll probably have to kill 10k zombies to get there if i were to guess. and that's probably an underestimate.i'll do it all with reinforced bats, because fuck firing a gun in LV.
>>2410761LV is best dealt with, via ample usage of shotgun noise luring, and campfires/molotovs
>>2410764i might do some luring but honestly i don't like the idea of trying to lure in a city with zero forestsit's easy to break line of sight in forests, it's hard in a city of buildings and every one has zombies.idk, i'm just gonna take LV one day at a time. if i can keep recharging filters, i can keep filling the streets with the dead. maybe i'll make some pipe bombs. i don't want to mototov in a city either.
>living in a busted in gas station or giga mart like some ghoul in the necropolis so that you can deliberately live closer to huge crowds of monsters that try to eat you>zombies are culled past 500 so there's no massive terrifying hordes, just an annoying blanket of stragglers on every street and in every closet>constant corpse stink and anxiety and reconstructing entire gates because one tile got broken when you weren't lookingdo citycels really?
>>2410861The zombie culling system can result in hilarity.Seeing 500 zombies come out of the gunstore, MULTIPLE TIMES, after burning 500 after 500, makes it seem like the building was a clown-car lmao.
>>2410861>>2410869>MP culling was imported into SPbut why?
>>2410907Because the game would sincerely shit the bed with the number of zombies Lemmy has placed on the map.I mean seriously some specific locations have over a thousand zombies in a confined space.The gunstore had about 3000 in some B42 builds.
>>2410910Gay and retarded, but That's Lemmy!Guess i have to beat No Mo Culling into working on SP files now. classic.Did they at least properly fix staling instead of importing it too? Haven't touched B42 after the last time i contemplated it being followed swiftly by the intentional deletion of all but a subset of approved, bugged versions.
>>2410918>Did they at least properly fix staling instead of importing it too? What?
>>2410926TL;DR B41 servers have a bug where zombie position serverside doesn't update from their origin and thus you can just kite zombies until they get deleted for being too far from where they should be.There's other shit involved but i don't understand the inner workings enough to translate it. It's explained in more detail on ZombieFix's modpage though.
>>2410932I think they fixed a fair bit of the stale-zombies issue.But they didn't fix the 'do a 360 and delete 2000 zombies' bug.
This game using 'common sense logic' for major gameplay elements really restricts player freedoms which sort of sucks>You need waterOkay fine, so build a rain collector then?>Washing your clothes uses so much water that you're going to need a whole fucking array of collectorsIs there any alternative?>Well you can stay near a lake/river/well/etc which are only in some pre-placed locationsGreat, so I guess i have to stay there or it's a huge fucking hassle. Thanks Lemmy.
>>2410861I never really left Rosewood in my time playing the game. After clearing the town, I sometimes check out March Ridge (never again, that place is a death trap), and Echo Creek.Pic related is where I always make my base. Feels pretty safe.
>first run where I turned off zombie infection>actually have to treat wounds now>hit fence by accident when driving home>broken bone, glass shards in arm, scratched everything>think about just starting a new game>remember that I found a traumabag earlier>pedal to the metal>hit a fucking rock>blood draining out of every orifice>make a mad dash>get through the door at "Terminal Damage">just stand near the traumabag and right click the wounds>actually fucking surviveOne of the best experiences I had in the game. Also the first time I crafted a splint. But it would have been fucking over if I hadn't had a stuffed traumabag in my house.
>>2411183Always keep every single medical item in a fannypack or in your backpack and some adhesive bandages at least.Going anywhere in a game where the player cannot actually clot wounds (because Lemmy is a fucking hack) is retarded.Imagine scratching yourself on a tiny bit of glass and bleeding out over the course of a solid day lmao.
>>2411187Yeah, I always carry alcohol wipes, bandaged and painkillers in the fannypacks. I need to add a suture needle and tweezers now.
>>2411183shove a spare bag with supplies into the glovebox or back seat next time: coffee/caffeine pills, knife, caloric-dense nonperishables, auto tools, water purification pills, rubber hose, three stones for quickly throwing a fire together, rope etc. think about what you would need to survive a multi-day hike back to your base or grab another car if the one you have just stopped working randomly, it's saved my ass countless times. adhesive bandages and a lighter always in the fanny pack at least
>>2411045the problem is there is no water container over 10L that is easily transportable. can you even transport a barrel full of water? sure there are amphoras but why the fuck would i need to learn pottery when blue barrels exist?furthermore, why is there no water trailer? this is kentucky, a major agricultural area, right?
>>2411121i based in rosewood and i was incredibly bored after a month. are you playing with respawn? because it's pretty easy to clear rosewood then you see maybe one zombie a day if that.
>>2411876is that water trailer mod working in 42.17?
I like that I've been able to make a 'soup' that is 0.4 gallons of water and statistically one singular shrimp.
In The Ark, I sometimes have a jumpscare hallucination of an image of a zombie flashing on the screen. Does anyone know what's up with that?
>>2408400i've pushed into the camp itself but then a meta event surged them southwards and i got pushed out again.i've now killed over a thousand at the LV boundary alone. it was about 2000 when i started and i now have 3300 kills. i can carve bats and reinforce them with sheet metal, these last a long time and i can kill hundreds of zombies with one. i one-shot most of them at Long Blunt 7, until i get winded. i don't get muscle strained anymore.
>>2414504I never go to the LV checkpoint without first having looted a gunstore of every bullet, shove it in a van, and park it near the checkpoint for reloads.
>>2414526i'm honestly just shit with guns. i have a lot of trouble getting a headshot in one, you get no experience for doing it at range anyway, and the noise just makes the problem worse. i have decided to walk the valley of death with a big stick.
>>2414536this is the arsenal i looted before i moved to Valley Station, unfortunately unused, but maybe i'll clear the mall with it.
>>2414504once more into the breach
bow before your god
>kill 400 zombies and loot as many buildings as you'd expect from that number>not a SINGLE fucking cigaretteUnironically just remove smoker if this is the outcome of the dev's autism. Why do they care so much about this trait not being good?
>>2414966if you strip bungalow-by-bungalow instead of just going where the bottleneck item you need actually is then of course it's going to take forever, B42 bloated the loot tables>cigarettesbars (often on the tables too), liquor/convenience stores and gas stations. every town has numerous, if you don't find any then it's quicker to just drive to the closest one of those than playing gacha with zombies and gloveboxes (much less houses)
>>2414983even then you barely get a few packs, smoker is still not worth until they bring back cartons. no one is gonna grow that shit, i'd be amazed if a single player has grown tobacco successfully.
>>2414987I agree smoker still sucks, especially if you're doing a long run where the micromanagement adds up. They ought to remove the coughing - wouldn't it make more sense for a non-smoker to be the one to do that anyway - and stick them in house bathrooms as a common spawn>i'd be amazed if a single player has grown tobacco successfullyIs ANYTHING worth growing in b42?
>>2414966Because he's still bootyblasted about it being one of the better perks in B41.
>>2414966>be me, average joe from the 90s>dying>grab my cigarettes>stick them up my own ass>die
>>2415034>Is ANYTHING worth growing in b42?i'm growing some crops (seasons off because eat my anus TIS) and i'll let you know if they were worth.it's not hard, once you have them in the ground you just need to remember to water them once a week or so if it doesn't rain.
i maxed out maintenance yee-haw.i strongly recommend fast learner and one level in char gen to do this.
>nearing 700 hours of playtime>still haven't fired a gun because I'm terrified of attracting every zombie in the cityIs the strat to just get fuckloads of ammo then shoot until they stop coming? Louisville is a constant fight against exhaustion whenever I need to clear a big building.
well you should definitely try firearms because yes, every single zombie that hears it will immediately beacon to where you fired the gun. it's exhilarating. as long as you don't have sprinters and have a vehicle, it's unlikely to cause you a problem. it's very useful to clear a neighborhood if you fire somewhere you don't care about, then dip.
>>2417081>Is the strat to just get fuckloads of ammo then shoot until they stop comingPretty much. Start with the JS2000 as your first weapon and use it until you run out of shotgun shells.If you really wanna be a gamer, craft a bunch of noisemakers and aerosol bombs to thin out the herd before using your guns.
>>2417081get stronger. are you doing your reps?
>>2417477you can't exercise in this patch
>>2417814which patch? 42.17?quit to desktop and reload the save to cool off. curse TIS while you wait for the game to load.
>go out to find hay and feed and maybe a pig for winter>come back to my van and trailer and both are on their side, violently bouncing off the ground>get in thinking maybe it will right itself with forward momentum>instead trapped inside the bouncing sideways van>the pig I got is still connected by rope outside, nervously squealing>install vehicle ground guard, reload and 'unstick' the vehicle hoping it'll reset the coordinates or something>every unstick seems to result in it still clipping into the ground worse, adding cascading force to the bouncing van/trailer>only option I can think of is to spam unstick and hope eventually it'll knock itself loose>the wildly thrashing van + trailer collapse down onto the pig and squish it dead mid-shriek>40+ bounces on the pig's corpse later it does a flourish backwards through the air and lands right side up>0% engine, hood and windshield where each were 90%+ beforewzzt
>>2418132kek that picture
>>2418132many such cases
THE NAMES KIPGAGNONPRONOUNCED "GANON"LIKE CANONIF THERES ANYONE THATS GOING TO SURVIVE THIS THING ITS GOING TO BE MEUS ARMY 1955 - 1976
i've stripped this modded car for all it's parts because it was a wreck, is there anything else i can do with it?it's floating and moving backwards extremely slowly, i presume it will just drift away given enough time. so cool; much realism.
>>2418844>it's floating and moving backwards extremely slowly, i presume it will just drift away given enough time. so cool; much realism.How do games still fuck this up? Even trespasser with it's famously lack-of-friction physics engine froze physics objects if they moved slowly for too long.
>>2418844truck-kun, please, send me to another world first...
>>2418863;_;
>Dream>Get jumped by two dudes>they beat the shit out of me in my dream>I wake up injured>fug>hear gunshots>investigate>emma killed like 6 bandits that broke into our bunker by herself>E-emma holy shit what's wrong?>????? You look like shit check the CO2 vents nigger what's it look likeShe's so based bros. This isn't scripted either, a raid just happened to happen while I was asleep.
>>2416394LV is such a fucking grind.i've pushed into the refugee camp, and it's thinner here, but LSU feels like it might as well be on the moon. there's so much more to go, nearly four full city blocks... i wonder if i'll get there by winter.
>>2419101>Earthquake>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEE I cant see shit vision spinning in the middle of another raid>Emma solos another squad of bandits by hiding out in her lab and shotgunning them as they come by the door while my character has vertigo spaz outs in the rec roomI feel like the npc in someone else's game stripping these corpses and dragging them to the corpse chute
>>2419339The rest of LV is not quite as dense as the checkpoint, I think the checkpoint is the highest concentration in the game? Maybe the secret lab too?But because LV is fucking huge, means fuckloads of zombies.
>>2419101>>2419425my emma died when zombies swarmed the ark while i was dicking around in the basement trying to figure out how to fix shiti wish that fag slayer would post a comprehensive basics guide
>>2419339So much effort put into LV and ultimately 90% of players don't fucking go there, because it's literally walled-off and contains nothing you can't get elsewhere.Nice game design, fucking retards.It'd be like putting Daedric items in the starting sewer of Oblivion.
>>2419604for me, its the thrill of gunning down thousands of zombies
>>2361589It's fun, but janky. Definitely less janky than Week One, but still. Probably the worst thing about it is how finnicky all the micromanagement is and how actually absolutely fucking shitty it can be to keep up with everything because the game won't give you five seconds to breathe and take care of a problem. Example:>Bandits raid the bunker>Realistically they shouldn't be able to get inside but arbitrarily, you cannot really lock the bunker doors, and if you could, they'd just stand there for an infinite amount of time until they broke through them all, ultimately irradiating your entire base over time>So they're inside and you kill them>If you are not wearing a hazmat suit literally 24/7 you will get blasted with rads just standing near the bodies>You have to strip them of all their inventory then drag each individual body into the decontamination chamber to decontaminate them all and yourself>If you've already been irradiated your character will scream uncontrollably and begin developing full body burns lol basically restart the game or, if you've been savescumming, reload your most recent save>So anyway say you were wearing your hazmat suit like a good little bunkcuck, successfully kill the bandits or have Emma (waifu npc) kill them for you, while you're busy trying to get them into decon, uh oh the gunfire drew zombies! you now must stop what you're doing and fight off a hoard of the undead (hope you carry an arsenal on you at all times lol because there's going to be a lot of them) because if you dont Emma will try to do that and get eaten instead>they're all irradiated too lol so I hope you didn't let any get past the decon room, because otherwise you have a lot more work to do now>UH OH earthquaaaaaaake! stop what you're doing because you're dizzy and can't see shit and now you have to go topside when the earthquake subsides, find the vent that got broke, or you suffocate>still haven't finished taking the bandits through decon
>>2420092Most recent update on May 1st made it so you can just drag the bodies into the decontamination room and it'll decontaminate their inventories tooI'm ngl I don't like the radiation mechanic at all, it makes most encounters instant death if you get hit even once, since for example if you're out trying to find tools to fix shit with and get shot by a bandit, an injury that should be tolerable to deal with - a single gunshot wound to the arm - is now going to kill you if you're not within spitting distance of The Ark's entrance because you'll soak in too many rads and start cooking in your suit. Also>mfw didn't start as an electrician, can't maintain the generators at all unless i find a magazine for it
>>2420096It's crazy how valuable an electrician start is because its the only skill you don't can't get points for from perks. Starting the game as an Electrician is basically mandatory so you can work on the generator and craft an improvised screwdriver in the event the game cucks you out of not having one in the bunker already
>>2420092>>2420096Sounds tedious as fuck.TIS will probably hire this guy.
>>2420126Improv. screwdriver only needs maint. 1 nowbut you're right about the Generator stuff.>>2420312It's only tedious when you don't really know what to do, mostly, but that's after some updates. Unlike TIS Slayer actually listens to community feedback. The game is much, much more playable now than it was on launch and that was only two weeks ago. The actual tedious mechanic is that the gas mask filters don't last any time at all because Lemmy is a complete FUCKTARD and coded them a.) to have low durability and b.) to have their use rate tied to frame rate, so if you have over 30 FPS it actually depletes faster than its supposed to. Slayer fixed the latter bug himself on May 1st, and someone else made an adjustment mod for the gasmasks as an add-on that makes it feel better to use.
>>2420338>be lemmy>make hazmat suits>have entire gameplay mechanic and skill system revolving around clothing and armor degredation, maintenance and repair>>>>>>>>>>>>you can't repair hazmat suits and have to throw them away if they develop holesLEMMEEEEEEEH
>>2420126Electrician is barely mandatory lmao. Any retard can read the generator magazine and it's not like generators are useful anyways.
>>2420345How would you repair a hazmat suit? Melt layers of clingwrap over holes?
>>2420346In Ark, the world starts irradiated for a month and all kinds of bad shit happens if your generator gets fucked including but not limited to: fires starting and destroying all your supplies, permanent bunker damage, no AC (so the nuclear winter outside freezes you all to death), no ventilation (so you all die of CO2 poisoning), etc.There is no guarantee the magazine spawns in the bunker or in March Ridge. If you don't take Electrician you're fucked unless you get lucky with a bandit spawn or a spawn in March Ridge or Muldraugh, since you have maybe 2-3 days of leeway before you get absolutely fucked>>2420360Ducktape.IRL they use what is basically flex seal/flex tape to do it.
>>2420406Oh, so a mod? Eh, gay.
>>2419604but there's lot of stuff in LV you can't get anywhere. the infrastructure, for one. if you want to live in a tower, they're all in LV. there's also locations like LSU library and the bat factory, that have very specific concentrations of loot.also, this is an exploration and zombie fighting game, LV has tons of that. if you don't cheese the map you could spend a very long time exploring LV and not find everything.though i do think they made getting into LV too hard, there should be a couple more entryways, like a place the fence was cut into after the military collapsed. group of survivors getting out couldn't cut some chainlink? fighting through the checkpoint was a fucking gauntlet.
>>2420450>if you want to live in a towerDear god why though???
>>2420453for the memesto flexi agree it's not a good idea, like a slightly less bad basement, zombie pathing and the way this game handles ropes/stairs makes deviating from z:0 a bad idea in general.
>get a spare engine part>"oh boy let me repair my engine">76% >77%what's the best way to get spare engine parts?
>>2420557>what's the best way to get spare engine parts?Ripping them out of other cars you don't want to use.Don't use repair parts until you have a fair bit of mechanics skill.
>>2420565i have lvl 5, should i go higher?btw the armory in LV checkpoint kicks ass. so many m16s...
>>2420573Level 7 at least.
>>2420575>Level 7 at least.glad i took mechanic...
>>2419339i went ahead and hotwired a van to go see what LSU looks like.the road there is very easy, but the university is FUCKED, goddamn place is overrun. and it's all spread out, no easy zombie funneling.this is gonna be harder than the checkpoint.
>>2420756i went from 2k to 5k kills clearing a path through the checkpoint and refugee campi wonder what it will be when i finally secure the library.
bleaching will commence shortly
Did weak stomach get way more deadly recently? Even though my water is, supposedly, clean and my food is fresh I'm still getting sick and then dying from it despite using lemongrass.
>>2423017Weak Stomach now gives you a chance to get sick from any food or water, this occurs independently from the usual sickness chance from eating bad food/tainted water. It's no longer worth taking at all.
>>2423026Nice b8, it's believable thanks to Lemmy's bullshit.>>2423017Clean water and good food never gives you sickness, ever.Burnt food=guaranteed deathRotten food=guaranteed deathBleach/poisonous mushrooms=guaranteed deathLemongrass only saves you one time, and only if you eat a single bad item, it takes a solid day to refresh the lemongrass timer.
>>2423044I have no idea what the fuck is making me sick then
>>2423097Most likely you're getting sick due to zombie corpses being nearby.
>>2423097Did you eat something while bloody? Or from a bloody/dirty bowl etc.? If so you can taint fresh food/water that way when you consume it
>>2423116>If so you can taint fresh food/water that way when you consume itAlso not true, you can be head to toe covered in blood and all it does is affect your comfort and wound infection chance.
>>2423106There are no corpses nearby, I keep my base clean>>2423116I wasn't really thinking about it but I guess that could be it, maybe
>>2423141Are you playing with any mods that might affect how sickness or mechanics work?
>>2423127>Yes, in Project Zomboid Build 42, eating food from a bloody or dirty bowl—or preparing food with bloody hands—carries a risk of causing food poisoning, resulting in nausea and possibly character death.Key Details for B42:Cause: Using contaminated containers or preparing food while covered in zombie blood increases the risk of sickness.Prevention: Wash your character and cookware before eating or preparing meals.Treatment: If you become sick, use lemongrass to help counteract food poisoning.
>>2423154Are you seriously using AI to answer questions when Zomboid documentation is famously so dogshit that even decade-long players of the game have no clue how half the mechanics work?You can make meals using bloodied knives, wearing bloodied clothes and eat with a bloodied fork. Does not confer any sickness to the player.
>>2423148To my understanding no, I'm playing The Ark but as far as I'm aware it doesn't change sickness mechanics at all
>>2423184>I'm playing The Ark but as far as I'm aware it doesn't change sickness mechanics at allUninstall the mod, do the same things in vanilla and see what happens. If you don't get sick, it's likely a mechanic of The Ark.
>>2423180It has sauce from the pzwiki, tis forums and steam forums. I trust that more than I trust you tbdesu
>>2423193There isn't a single mechanic ingame that changes sickness values based on items being covered in blood or not.Stop b8ing.
>>2423191I think I understand what's going on now. So in The Ark when you take something out of the base or from outside into the base, it's irradiated and has to be decontaminated in the decontamination room. If I take a bottle of purified water outside it becomes irradiated, and when I take it back inside, it gets decontaminated ... but it remains tainted.
>>2423217>slayer once again proving he is the son of lemmy
>>2423217>Why am I getting sick when all my items are highly irradiated?You maybe should've been able to figure that one out sooner.
>>2423224Yeah. It never occured to me that if I take purified, perfectly safe to drink water outside with me then run it through decon that it'd become tainted water from that. It sort of makes sense in a jank way once I think about it, but I still don't like it. Honestly The Ark becomes incredibly punishing for people who take stuff like High Thirst or Hearty Appetite.
>>2423184>My mods aren't changing anything!>>2423217>Okay it was the modsJej, every time somebody has something weird go on in Zomboid its due to mods.
>>2423230It's not that the items are irradiated when I drink them. What was happening is that I'll have Fresh food and Water in my inventory that becomes irradiated when I go outside, then when I come back and decontaminate it, the items in my inventory will still say e.g.>Oatmeal (Fresh)because they're not irradiated anymore. They look perfectly normal and safe to consume, but have actually become stealth-tainted, something you'll only know if you have the tooltip for tainted on and then examine the tooltip. Even then it's only actually telling me its tainted on water, but from some testing I just did, it taints normal food too.
>>2423243I mean why would the player know the food is radioactive? It's hard to tell from a glance.
>>2423241It's the only mod I have and it doesn't explain any of this on the mod page or any of its vague documentation, to be fair. I also didn't say it's impossible, just that if it was, it wasn't something the mod mentioned it would be changing.
>launch game>mods suddenly disappear despite never being moved or altered since last play sessionThat's okay I didn't want to play today anyway
So I found out where all the pristine cars the Kentucky population has been hiding from us the whole time.No mods, all cars 80% or better, there must be hundreds here.
>>2420557>what's the best way to get spare engine parts?Get 10 Mechanics before you start playing with engine parts and engine repairs.
>>2423268Top right corner with the rest of the props?
>>2424523Nope! To the north of the Mansion near Brandenburg, triangle shaped field.
>>2423224this is how i feel about The Ark. it just seems like tedium. idk why Retanaru is playing it so much.i suspect he is burnt out by TIS endless bullshit but needs to keep his twitch stream alive. i'd rather he just play VS or something. or even watch him be retarded in Ostranauts.
>>2423268this is where Obama hid the Cash for Clunkers vehicles...
Vanilla Food Expanded w/ Meat Expandsion completely fixes the dogshit vanilla butchering results.there's more than this just what i could fit in the freezer.
>>2424688its something that feels like it'll be fun, maybe, in a few months if slayer keeps ironing out balance and bugs, which i have more faith in him doing than lemmybut also he basically just abandoned week 1 to work on the ark immediately so idk
>>2425129Do you actually need that much meat? Doesn't it end up spoiling before you get to eat it all?
>>2425576in a freezer it will last indefinitely, at least on apocalypse settings. and yes if i am going to go to the trouble of raising fucking animals, i expect a BVLL to give me like 40k calories at least.though i have to be honest, this run is probably the last time i will raise animals. it's easy mode food and i spend a lot of time picking up shit and putting it in the composter.
what were they thiiiiiinking
mod that lets me tap the floor with a melee weapon to get zombie attention.
>>2423268The average joe in the 90s could just hear it calling and had to get close to it.
maybe the baker can use an image that isn't dogshit coombait next time.
>>2423268beautiful to see in their natural habitat the pioneers used to ride these babies for miles
>>2425688>it's easy mode food With a cheat mod it is, sure.
>>2426777mod that lets me rip some ass to get the zombie attention.
is there a good way to prevent saplings from growing over a long path without building wooden floors down the entire road? spending two or three days out of each month cutting bushes just to leave my place is annoying, it should be 10 tiles to a bag of gravel instead of 4 since they're rare and you're still going through the trouble of laying it yourself instead of dumping it out the back of a truck like people do irl
>>2430215>is there a good way to prevent saplings from growing over a long path without building wooden floors down the entire roadNope, it's wooden floors or nothing.
>>2430215>picrelWhat's funny is that actually, peasants weren't typically toothless. At least medieval european ones that is, due to having robust diets, and generally taking pretty good care of their teeth e.g. with antimicrobial sap "gum" to clean their teeth with. Aside from the vitamins - not that they knew that was why it was helping them - one of the reasons fruits like lemon and orange were popular among sailors was the many uses they had for the rinds, from cleaning their teeth to cooking. The main causes of tooth loss at the time were gum disease and wear; the former was basically unheard of outside the poorest of the poorest of the poor (i.e. people who were already typically starving and lived in squalor, not serfs or other working peasants) and the upper echelons of society who had really shitty diets and also didn't really clean their teeth to the extent peasants did (though this was incidental, they actually thought what they did was much cleanlier) - they'd dip linen in vinegar or wine to wipe their teeth, but that was really as far as it went for them. As for tooth wear, this wasn't a widespread issue particularly in the parts of Europe that had been under Roman control, even after Rome fell due to Rome's incredibly strict laws and culture surrounding the creation of flour and the baking of bread. But parts of the country that had less supervision and less of a high trust culture would have loaves cut with sawdust or fine gravel, which wore at the teeth of people who ate it over time.Sorry I just wanted to talk about that for a minute
>>2430983have you considered that their husbands simply knocked them out
>>2431217Troo
>>2430983In short, processed sugar fucked teeth like nothing else.
>>2430215>Crops take real life or longer time to grow>Saplings grow like weed and will fuck your car
>>2431465It's common knowledge that trees grow to 'fuck cars over' size well before a tomato grows on a vine.
>>2431440Yeah pretty much, our dental hygiene today is immensely worse than most european peasants more or less just because we eat like shit and consume mountains of processed sugar
>>2398988>it's like trying to frighten me with a ravenous penguin.ATHLABROS DON'T READ THIS POST
sheep are way more useful than the other animals without clipping into your walls or taking up an entire animal trailer just to move a single one like cows or needing babysat every single day like chickenstake the sheep pill
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