>>2334519
Egg reference
>ItemID - Name - Bonus
9001 - Poring - bLuk 2; bCritical 1;
9002 - Drops - bHit 3; bAtk 3;
9003 - Poporing - bLuk 2; bSubEle Ele_Poison 10;
9004 - Lunatic - bCritical 2; bAtk 2;
9005 - Picky - bStr 1; bAtk 5;
9006 - Chonchon - bAgi 1; bFlee 2;
9007 - Steel Chonchon - bFlee 6; bAgi -1;
9008 - Hunter Fly - bFlee -5; bFlee2 2;
9009 - Savage Babe - bVit 1; bMaxHP 50;
9010 - Baby Desert Wolf - bInt 1; bMaxSP 50;
9011 - Rocker - bHPrecovRate 5; bMaxHP 25;
9012 - Spore - bHit 5; bAtk -2;
9013 - Poison Spore - bStr 1; bInt 1;
9014 - Peco Peco - bMaxHP 150; bMaxSP -10;
9015 - Smokie - bAgi 1; bFlee2 1;
9016 - Yoyo - bCritical 3; bLuk -1;
9017 - Orc Warrior - bAtk 10; bDef -3;
9018 - Munak - bInt 1; bDef 1;
9019 - Dokebi - bMatkRate 1; bAtkRate -1;
9020 - Sohee - bStr 1; bDex 1;
9021 - Isis - bMatkRate -1; bAtkRate 1;
9022 - Green Petite - bDef -2; bMdef -2; bAspdRate 1;
9023 - Deviruchi - bMatkRate 1; bAtkRate 1; bMaxHPrate -3; bMaxSPrate -3;
9024 - Bapho Jr. - bDef 1; bMdef 1; bResEff Eff_Stun -100;
9025 - Bongun - bVit 1; bResEff Eff_Stun 100;
9026 - Zealotus - bAddRace RC_Demihuman 2; bMagicAddRace RC_DemiHuman 2;
9027 - Alice - bMdef 1; bSubRace RC_DemiHuman 1;
9030 - Green Maiden - bDef 1; bSubRace RC_DemiHuman 1;
9037 - Wanderer - bAgi 3; bDex 1;
9040 - Civil Servant - bMaxSP 10;
9041 - Leaf Cat - bSubRace RC_Brute 3;
9042 - Loli Ruri - bMaxHPRate 3; bAutoSpellWhenHit "AL_HEAL" 1,10;
9043 - Marionette - bSPrecovRate 3;
9044 - Shinobi - bAgi 2;
9045 - Whisper - bFlee 7; bDef -3;
9046 - Goblin Leader - bAddRace RC_DemiHuman 3;
9047 - Wicked Nymph - bMaxSP 30; bSPrecovRate 5;
9048 - Miyabi Doll - bInt 1; bCastrate -3;
9049 - Dullahan - bCritAtkRate 5;
9050 - Medusa - bVit 1; bResEff Eff_Stone 500;
9051 - Stone Shooter - bSubEle Ele_Fire 3;
9052 - Incubus - bMaxSPRate 3;
9053 - Golem - bMaxHP 100; bFlee -5;
9054 - Nightmare Terror - bResEff Eff_Sleep 10000;
9055 - Succubus - bHpDrainRate 50 5;
9056 - Imp - bSubEle Ele_Fire 2; bAddEle Ele_Fire 2;

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>>2374811
>>2375458
ragnadev is delusional
v4 is doomed

>>2378296

tell somebody they matter today

>>2380102
Don't worry I'm going to teach him a lesson.

>>2380151
ok here's who matters
>You matter tier
Beta Sader, Beta SG, Support jobs, Wizard
>You don't matter
Every one else

as expected, the main group got their ET cards and now nobody wants to help out

hello
it's been a while since my last monthly post
is there a date for /v/4 yet?

>>2380317
v4 Next year
Other anon server in June/July

>>2380312
It's what happens when the guild gets this big and one half is a bunch of strangers. We were already very "I got mine" last season and it was a very tough job both previous seasons to find enough people to help (but we managed).

A lot of people also speed ran their album so going again when you might not get any new cards at all isn't appealing. The 12 cards per run didn't help.

It's the worst though for people who can only go at times that don't fit into "normal people hours" for either NA or EU blocks.

A lot of the regular ET helpers from before have also been EU or at least playing during those hours. This time NA times are when EU can't help. (Due to complaints from NA about being morning / afternoon times)

>>2380312
hi i can go again for the next et

>>2380036
Where's all the Ragnarok porn servers?

>>2380312
post name
post ign

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a new solution to solve ragnaV /3/ player base issue.
makako dev takes note.

>>2380879
>2024

>>2380879
f-finally, maybe someone will date me at last

>>2379674
>>2379681
Anon that's fucking brilliant. Why didn't I think of that? This is gonna make mistress a cakewalk!

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GoonRO:

Pre-Renewal
7x/20x/15x
babies pre-trans only
max level 155
max job level baby 2nd class 70
open PK
PK deaths give you 1%
PK kills give you 1% + chance of player card randomizer
@warp @storage @autoloot (not under 1%)
all dungeon access
main city Lutie
No multibox or autovend (player trade only)
Theres only two guilds on the server (Red vs Blu) Think of it like horde vs alliance. A guildless player will have PK turn off for them.
1 City for red and blue(Morroc pre-satan and payon with surrounding territories Prontera/Lutie will remain neutral)

increased drop rate when you hunt on enemy territory + debuff (maybe half the duration of all buffs or something to encourage war more)

Join now !!
(on invite only currently)

Please kick Silk from Pools

>>2381279
what for?

>>2381295
annoying cunt

>>2381315
disagree
alice though, is a different story

>>2381315
Has treated me nicely, so must be you

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Idea:
CCRO Beta Sin Venom Splasher Tank.
+big hp pool
+venom splasher dont care about weapons or stats
+can use shield and fortune sword but still contribute damage

I miss Lull

>x3
>x7
>x5
can we get a x20 already

>>2381279
If you have a legitimate problem with someone PM the guild leader

>the guild leader is ro

I'll just leave the guild, thanks!

>>2381353
see ya loser

>>2381353
do it, faggot

>>2381353
that isn't even correct, retard

>>2381343
Rikoko won't do shit because he is a degenerate /trash/oid like Silk

>>2381360
>>2381361
>>2381362

Kys Ro

really called the bluff on that attention whore

Always funny when the people that don't play out themselves so easily

I'm doing vore erp

>>2381279
Wrong
Alice on the other hand...

I like Silk

you can always tell who the asshole retards are since they constantly try to force parties for their own shit and then disappear without bothering to help other people

I think goon therefore I am gooning
toughbeit

>t. goon

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Lightmap bug kinda cool sometimes

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>tea goon

>>2381754
Amazing drawing. The mask shows were good too

>>2381321
Venom Splasher still requires ATK to increase damage. I knew someone several seasons ago experimenting with poison build to pretty decent effect. It is a very powerful skill especially supporting by the card effects buffing it by several orders of magnitude

will silk get kicked or not

>>2381850
nobody fucking cares about your personal drama, retard. go back

>>2381876
Hi Silk

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>>2381998
Swinging for the fences is a lot less embarrassing when you don't strike out instead, kek

>>2382062
What the fuck, Neptune's here? You haven't become an hero?

So from my understanding to make it anywhere in this game beyond the first few levels you will need to have 3 clients open minimum with at least 1 tank 1 dps and 1 healer and you need to be controlling all 3 or more of these characters at the same time theres no like auto mode to make a bot controll your other 2+ characters while you just focus on ur main guy.
That sounds exhausting.

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>>2382140
neptune is cucksimpho/ratshitpiss aka the mlp obssesed simp retard, he never left just threw another trip on for some time

>>2382518
no? multiclienters are all autistic and impatient retards

>>2382518
You understood it wrong retard, you need 12 clients open with you yourself controlling 5 and grok controlling the other 7
Plus 5 more merchants to sell trash

>>2381845
well a tank can still go high vit and 99str.
it works against bosses too with am mut card.

>>2382528
I don't like this faggot but I can confirm you are wrong about that. Neptune been around since 2007, and pissjug doug ratsupialpiss is a relatively new cancer

remind me to get my own hearts next time since 160 were deposited and were gone instantly and I don't feel like rushing to get them
i'm sure they were used on fag alts

>He didn't farm 300 hearts when it was MOTD while getting cards

>>2382871
I'm not terminally online

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Ragnarok Online

log off retard

>>2382874
Go buy from the vendor then like a good wagie

do you have anything positive to say about anyone or is this the backstab drama dump thread?

>>2382995
nope, you all suck ass

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>>2382888
can I join the erp tree too?

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>>2383073
Not unless you have your climb training card certification

>>2380417
I see, thank you. looking forward to it next year
is the other anon server an actual thing or just a meme?

>>2383095
it's a meme unless you somehow get invited

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>>2383102
ok so I'll see you guys and ask again jan 2027 then
thank you

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I feel like we were too rough on that cat guy, sure ratshitpiss was/is a piece of shit but cat didn't do anything wrong and his server just died by association. Maybe we'd have a server to play now instead of small cliques rushing every CC season and everyone else fucking off to play something else while they wait for /v/4.

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>>2383125
Crimson Desert is a very pretty game that I play when all of you in RO are boring. :/

>>2383137
I actually do too. I play every other day and watch /v/ high on ultra copium regarding DD2 DLC

some of you need MELATONIN RELEASE

>>2380036
game that nobody plays general

>>2383147
you're black

>>2383152
I think he was saying that some of you need to sleep

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No is surging

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fuck sunos (consensually)

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>>2383147
No, Coral Release is going to be a whole lot better...buddy.

>>2383155
sheeeit

>>2383176
Surging vpns

>>2383184
I won't miss.

>>2383176
>dev: "I DON'T CARE"
>*no starts getting botted*
kek

>>2383311
he's such a weasel that I get a kick out of it at time

>>2383311
I voted no because alchecucks are always some form of annoying fuck when you give them a homun

>>2383311
Coincidental timing

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deeevvvvv where did you find the link to this straw hat?

>>2383401
it's hard to say which class is whiniest
>alchemist players constantly scream they want homunc for fair play but you know the instant they're given their gravity-approved bot, they're going to use it to afk
>snipers constantly beg servers for "qol" changes like autoloot and infinite fly wing so they can farm everything 3x faster than other classes
>monks similarly want quick healer/dungeon warper so they can effortlessly keep every mvp on rotation but will instantly cry foul if you ever suggest to take away portal asura strats
>sunos, despite actively choosing to play a fake class which was made as a joke, demand every server capitulate to their demands to overbuff the living shit out of them to the point that they out-dps every core class while being unkillable and self sustaining without any need for a priest

I just made a Mage. :)

At what point do my fireballs start doing more damage than just hitting something with my staff

>>2384125
bro i think you need to lay off whatever you're smoking

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>>2384146

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>>2384174

>>2384174
do you have like 5 int? what the hell

>>2384278
Below lvl 3 fireball deals less than 100% matk, and matk starts in the gutter as well, meanwhile a starting weapon has like 50~ or more atk. So no wonder spells are shit that early.

>>2383992
>FOX ONLY
>NO ITEMS
>FINAL DESTINATION
The whiniest players are the ones such as yourselves attempting to dictate how people are "allowed" to play a 24 year old korean grindfest videogame. Your RO-Purity litmus test is bullshit and belongs in the trash.

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>>2384437
nta but I win that melee match for sure

>>2383992
dev, tell us your story... Lif is the reason why your dad never returned home?

>>2384437
wrong

>>2384466
Cannot possibly be wrong as you niggers have been bitching about how people play RO since the earliest private servers that existed. It's about time someone shuts you up.

>>2384473
wrong

>>2384466
>>2384474
...and when called out this is all you have to say for yourself. Just more retard-speak. We don't let retards have opinions, let alone allow them to tell others what they're doing.

>>2384531
didnt read

>>2384534
faggot

>>2383992
I love the blatant alch and suno seethe.
The monk and hunter complaints are pretty valid, but an alch being able to get exp while having to play the most miserable class is not really gamebreaking. And buffing sunos non caster aspect is perfectly reasonable since it still won't be able to compete with real classes.

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>>2384564
>And buffing sunos non caster aspect is perfectly reasonable
>buffing sunos
>perfectly reasonable

>>2384564
>And buffing sunos non caster aspect is perfectly reasonable since it still won't be able to compete with real classes.
>please give star dust blade 4 slots it's not like novice weapons would be broken
>also please let swords double attack it just makes sense
>also can double attack crit please?
>also can sunos get permanent +10 stat boosts that aren't removed on death?
>also can we have permanent fury with SP regen enabled during it?
>also warm wind, its just qol since everyone else gets endows anyways (even though we could just use them!)
>actually can you let us trans and get access to all gear on top of an extra +40 skill points and just a few teeny tiny second job skills like bowling bash?
>also can you buff quve/lude card to give +5k hp/1k sp?

>>2384585
NO YOU CAN'T. THAT'S NOT THE TRUE RAGNAROK ONLINE. YOU HAVE TO PLAY AT 1X/1X/1X WITH NO MODIFICATIONS AND YOU PAY ME A SUBSCRIPTION FEE PER ACCOUNT BECAUSE THAT'S THE REAL RAGNAROK ONLINE. STOP PLAYING YOUR CUSTOM TRASH

>>2384614
>I would loooooove to play ragnarok online but I would never play anything that doesn't make me feel like a special snowflake for playing a unique class
>But I also don't actually want to PLAY my snowflake class as it was designed so can you pweettyyyy pweeeeaaasssse make it better pweease? just a little bit?

>Me rogue
>Me left click things
>Life is good.

>>2384625
NO, FAGGOT. YOU PLAY MY WAY OR NOT AT ALL. FUCK YOU. GIB MONE

>they're doing bio3 again
>including the leeching afk faggots who got every card
>not even bothering to ask who needs mvp cards

>>2384670
You know those people are the ones making it possible to bio3 in the first place, right?

>>2384670
Why don't you learn to play a class that can make bio3 happen?

>>2384681
including a super novice? and a gunslinger? both doing literally nothing but being afk 90% of the time?

>>2384670
*accuses you of being anti-social and not having friends*

>>2384685
I can't badmouth sunos after one carried me thru scaled dungeon 12, whose fuckers are somehow strong
And a GS also melted down valk like it was made of paper lmao

>>2384692
Valk sure is a weird looking bio3 mvp

>>2384704
I'm saying they aren't literally doing nothing but leeching faggot

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Balance on ccro mean absolutely nothing. You're not beating da real gaem in any shape or form.

>>2384585
You know you don't have to do all of these or push it this far right?
Stardust with 3 slots would be fine.
Swords could always double attack if you used sidewinder, which was the case on /v/ro, since I assume you are sperging out about /v/ro because of the 4 slot stardust.
Double attack being able to crit, again, you don't need to do that. Its fine imo because it helps a lot of the classes that are nothing without ice pick.
Permanent +10 is also a non issue. The only difference is that players don't need to dual client to constantly reset. Which was what people did anyway on all officials.
Permanent fury is only an issue if you allow double attack crit, and it ends up being more a monk buff than a suno buff anyway, since suno especially melee suno barely uses sp anyway. Especially on /v/ro where buffs were toggles.
Warm wind, again, not necessary, could have been removed.
Trans, is perfectly fine. Not because of suno, but because every other class from gunslinger, ninja, soul linker needs it as well, as most gear after a certain point had a trans requirement, so all the old classes have to be updated and allowed to use at least some of it.
The last one once again, you don't need to push it that far.
Man, its kind of funny how butthurt you are about suno and /v/ro specifically.

>>2384692
ok but what can they do in bio3? you're dodging my point that they're useless pillocks being let in these parties to leech it's a fucking /trash/ clique jerking off with each other
even the fucking guild jokes about Silk being a useless leeching fuck and Chisato either perma begging for gear or calling people niggers because he got a no for an answer

kick silk please

>>2384723
I ain't dodging shit, i said that i can't badmouth those classes, (you) are the one bringing social drama into it.
I've seen GS doing DPS in bio3, and sunos working as temu-priest safety wall bots there too.
The only thing i'm seeing is that you are a little bitch that got left out.

sunos can be good dps against LK and WS ;)

>>2384723
>reee the clique doing bio3 with useless jobs and not meeee!
>stop leeeeeeeching! ;_;
Congratulations, you filtered yourself.

>>2384723
Alice is that you ya fucking insufferable faggot

>>2384338
yeah but fireball is also aoe
if the retard wanted to do damage he would just use fire bolt

some people are just terminal leechers, best you can do is ignore them when they ask to come leech or for handouts
as for suno on they are pretty nice on ccro, bully newbs judging an entire class based on silk is fucking funny

people help me even tho im terrible at the game

>>2383992
>a fake class which was made as a joke
take that back

>>2385059
im worse

>>2381152
>Lutie
Why lutie?
Kinda prefer Moscow more since its right next to money maker dungeon

>>2385105
It's honestly a cool underused town and babies loooove Christmas

>>2385072
>take that back
You can't take back facts

Fuck off back to ROBF if you care so much about it

the problem lies in yourselves really
you guys joked about BS being useless and not even acknowledging their existence and now you guys suck Ray's cock constantly despite our other BS doing the same shit 2 seasons ago
Like you guys rely on one person per class to do shit and don't acknowledge anybody else as being a contributor

How do i make some starter money as a very low level.
Too low to get to ants because the kobold guys just run me down before i can get to ant level.

>>2385302
how low? go kill desert wolves and loot the stilettos and katars

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ye I'm a leech

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ye i'm a leech

>>2385334
true

>>2385339
true

>>2385299
you can leave me out of it cause i don't care what other people are doing cause I play solo a bunch

>>2385299
it takes one person to show what %class_name% can truly do on a meme server, hope he rolls melee suno next season

>>2385299
I agree with most people being too quick to regard classes as useless. Ray still dropped BS because it fell off hard iirc. The bigger problem with most of those classes is that they are hyper reliant on the costume carrying them.

shitter here, does sinX in ccro have the same QoL/buffs like in ragnav3?
stuff likes double attack can crit etc

Yea idk
Im like not getting very noticably stronger im like 50% stronger than when i started and like maybe i need the equips to trully power up maybe levels arent everything but every piece of gear costs 1 million dollars + 10 million to upgrade it and im getting 5$ per monster and i can only kill like 2 guys before i need to walk away from the pc for 10 minutes and go do something else to let my character heal up OR i could spend half a million on a few healing items and chug them but that would defeat the whole purpose of killing monsters
Idk

>>2385302
Wolves for strawberries
Desert wolves for stilletos
Mavkas for mirrors and roses
Incubus and succs to rings

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I love SuNos so much it's unreal

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What are the top three most underated and the top three most overated costumes?

>>2385600
You need ESL card for double attack to crit
But that doesn't really benefit sinx since double attack runes have 1/5 effectiveness on anything but daggers, and only on main hand.

>>2385623
so crit katar sinX is much weaker in CCro? how does one play sinX here?

>>2385602
gear plays a big part but if you get enough cards the game can be beaten with basic +4 gear

So whats the average REAL player count this season ? Do people even play bards or is it entirely relegated to slave multiclient ?

>>2385611
hunter alpha is underrated, its bis for mini farm

>>2385611
>underated chad tier
alchemist A
rogue A
linker B
>overrated nerd sweat tier
ninja A
crusader B
star gladiator B

>>2385647
vincent is playing bard afaik

>>2385643
>Much weaker
Compared to what? It's still respectable damage as pure crit, but it has the problem of being melee, with no shield and no defense, so it will get instantly chewed against anything meaningful.
>How does one play sinx there
Bolter
And poison execute with costume

>>2385697
what is the best class for new player? i assume crusader after reading the threads?

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https://wiki.revenantelegy.com/Main_Page

It's coming and you can't stop it.

>>2385701
Sader is good if you have the costume, and if you have an ahlspiess at level 65.
I myself recommend rogue, it's comfy at early/mid cards and it still farms like a machine at the late zeny grind.

>>2385711
why rogue over sinX? isnt rogue just shittier sinX and more PvP oriented?

>Angry Lunatic appears out of thin air and 1 taps me in a place where lunatics dont even spawn
>Look it up and cant find any info on a mob called angry lunatic
???

>>2385703
Is this GoonRo?

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>>2385715
Rogue there has preserve, and it lets you into many niche builds, like claymores and just solid skills like triple-attack + lady tanee
But the real, real reason is picrel

>>2385734
goddamn sounds good.
any fun, op builds, but for sinX?

>>2385755
Elemental sword bolter is still good as ever dunno if i count it fun
Poison is funny, but very fuckin far from OP
We had a season that sin had soul destroyer, now that was a fun and strong build, but unfortunately that's gone.

>>2385611
>underrated
smith A (basically crusader if it was fair and had different power breakpoints)
tk kid beta (fsk spam farm is insanely powerful, i'm calling that someone will abuse it in a later season)
hunter alpha (purely for farming minis and shit like mobster/dragonoid, which is niche but it does its job so well that its worth considering)

>overrated
performer beta (people glazed it at first though most people understand it sucks now)
monk alpha (theorycrafted as "what if it could be good" but in actuality it just sucks, monk never wants to do actual crit builds or steel body attack builds)
wizard beta (considered the worst costume in the game and that's STILL too much credit seriously it is baffling how fucking worthless this costume is)

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>>2385723
perhaps

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Found this while killing baby desert wolves
Is this worth something or should i just sell it to the vendor.

>>2385835
>job: ninja
its trash

>>2385837
You know that Ninja is being used as a bio3 tank right?

>>2385856
where are knigga and crusadanigga? why would they allow some twink to take their job?

>>2385734
can you steal cards?

>>2385876
no

>>2385882
does that work on the skill that allow steal on auto attack? could he keep on stealing for 3rd times or just 2 only?

>>2385894
You can steal forever as long you keep hitting that 50(75)%
Any item but cards is allowed, even the super 0.2% ones
It does work on auto steal

>>2385899
wtf isnt this an industrial farming machine

>>2385905
It is, there's a reason why i always recommend rogue as a starter

>>2385835
Very niche, only keep it if you are planning to use a ninja, its not rare enough to have value, and upgrading it does very little.

>>2385905
>>2385910
it's good but honestly i'd rather just kill things faster than kill slowly while getting extra drops

>>2386138
It's like 10k DPS on a correct element enchant, sure isn't miracle juiced SG but it's decent deeps, and swapping into crit is easy as changing to a plat sword

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I killed a really really big slime and it dropped this and i looked it up and apparently this is worth like 5k gold
Big $$$

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how do you solo satan morroc as a suno

>>2386224
solo
youtube.com/watch?v=XqD0oCHLIF8

>>2386171
what the fuck are you even saying

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>>2386263
Don't be retarded anon

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>>2381335

I heard PC on ccRO imploded. Can I get a QRD?

>>2386273
sorry I'm high

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>>2385703
You really think the retards here will play this server? lmao. These dudes seethe at anything that can help huntards even if it helps everyone else.

>>2386354
>These dudes seethe at anything that can help huntards even if it helps everyone else.
"these dudes" don't actually exist, retard. we have long established that anyone trying to enforce "one true RO" is a faggot and should be ignored full-stop so stop fucking listening to retards and you'll stop getting retards in your groups.

>>2386352
They released the Chellestein files.

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38 int and fireball is at rank 10 now and my fireball still does less damage than just punching enemies
When does Mage class start getting good
Should i restart

>>2386371
https://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=mob_db&mob_id=1014

Look at the resistances.

>>2386371
>When does Mage class start getting good
Right about when you hit 150 dex, good luck

>>2386377
Isnt Dex the bow stat
Im not using a bow im using magic

>>2386379
dex is also cast speed dumbass, you want 150 for instant casting

>>2386380
kill yourself

>>2386380
150 is more points than i have in all stats combined o.O

>low IQ mage who should've become swordsman instead
You really do get the utterly braindead types here now don't you?

>>2386352
Anybody?

>>2386385
Level harder then

>>2386464
you heard wrong

>>2386528
I cant this class fucking stinks
I do more dps by just hitting things with my stick than using my abilties.

Resistances stack multiplicatively right?

>>2386592
PC is a shadow of its former self and you know that.

Whats the point of butterfly wing item if you can just type @die and teleport to save point for free
Does dying make you lose exp at highter levels or something??

>>2386730
To add to that, i was making some calcs and i can get 88 DEF(+120 soft DEF) with my knight
It should be enough to cut down ifrit basic attacks down to 50 per hit or 400 under powerup
So i was wondering how the resistances apply to add to the math
EQ is a second concern for now

>>2386864
Wait no, i'm just insane, it's down to 1800 and 5400, so i do need those resistances to stack in my favor

>>2386799
Yes, it does. The exp lost varies from mild annoyance to deleting hours of grinding depending on where you are playing.

Silk's fat futa cock :3

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>>2386896

>>2386888
How much is lost on ccro
What lvl does it start

>>2386918
Just use butterfly wings.

>>2386730
It depends on the syntax. All modifiers with the same syntax will stack ADDITIVELY. This means that resistance vs demi-human will stack additively with other resistance vs demi-human. Modifiers with different syntaxes are multiplicative off each other. Resistance vs ranged will stack additively with other ranged resistances, but multiplicatively with demi-human resist.

Examples:
30% Demi resist from Thara Frog Card (Rune on ccRO)
10% Demi resist from Beret/Poo Hat
(30+10+) = 40% less damage taken from all damage recieved by demi-humans.
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30% Demi resist from Thara frog shield
10% neutral resist from noxious garment
10% ranged resist from noxious garment
10% ranged resist from 2x Alligator accessories
30% demi resist, 10 neutral resist, (10+10)=20 ranged resist.
0.7*0.9*0.8 = .504, so you take 50.4% of all RANGED, NEUTRAL, DEMI-HUMAN damage.

From what I remember, the order of operations is determine incoming damage, apply hard defense, then apply soft defense, then afterwards apply resistances. More hard def will make your soft def better, and more resistances are always good, but resistances don't exponentially decrease damage taken since its applied last.

The additive/multiplicative syntax applies to both offense and defense. Having a 4x20% racial weapon is only +80% damage. Having a 2x20%racial / 2x20%element weapon results in +96% damage. Because of this, for offenses, you get the most benefit by having a spread of different syntaxes (but it makes your weapons more specialized). For defenses, you gain a lot by stacking a single syntax as high as you can, notably for ranged resist. On vanilla, acolytes can get
Horn - 35%
2x Alligator - 10%
Noxious - 10% (+10% neutral)
Long Mace - 10%
For 65% ranged resist, it's their best defensive profile. Other classes can only get to 55% because of no long mace, although they have other options like Combat Knife available.

>>2386918
pretty sure it starts anytime after you change from novice

>>2386975
I just checked and yep i lost 1% exp when i @die'd
Its so small i never noticed

>>2386993
On ccro yeah you almost can't notice since the server is 10x and there's no trans jobs. It matters when you're playing a low rate after getting to around lv 95~ and retards on your party start messing up and wiping. The priest resses you just for you to die again, and the exp loss starts piling up, soon you're -10% and haven't progressed at all in the last hour grinding

>>2386993
start feeling it once you're getting 0.1% per kill but ain't terrible before then

>>2387032
This exp penalty is why mvps like ifrit and valk are a mess
Nobody wants to go to MVPs where dying isn't something you can avoid. Gravity deliberately juiced the numbers high to the point where everyone except the tank and priest WILL die, because its the only way to pose a challenge when you have bragi'd resurrection, pneuma/sw, sanctuary, slim potion pitcher, and everyone being able to just chug their own pots on top.

>>2386961
So against ifrit ( avg. 15000/45000 damage)
I have 86 hard def + 120 soft def
40% neutral res
>15 % from cards
>5% from D.Mantle
>20% from Raydric rune

20% Large type res
>15% from cards
>5% from stone buckler
10% Formless type res from cards
43% Boss ress
>3% from cards
>40% from alice rune

The total should be ~ 500 damage(1500 under power up), right?
Thanks for the effort post btw

>>2387045
Yes, on ccro you can juice your defense values to absurd levels, even monsters that do 50k attacks will barely tickle you. Knight can also spam counter attack in safety wall to block any basic attacks.
The main threats are being mobbed by too many enemies (which will lower your defense but should never come up), taking magic damage (not really an issue since you have huge HP anyways and can press endure to get mdef, plus ifrit's magic doesn't hit that hard), getting Critical Slash'd (Defense Disregard Attack) repeatedly by his salamanders, and of course Earthquake.

EQ has a lot of weird properties. To sum it up
>Magic Spell, but...
>Ignores All MDEF of enemies hit
>Is always ranged damage (because ALL magic is ranged damage)
>Forced neutral element, Raydric will apply
>Carries race so racial shields apply, as does Alice
>Scales off ATK, including power up except on servers where it doesn't
>Hits all targets in radius, splitting raw damage evenly between them
>Includes mercenaries and homunculus in damage calculation
>If an enemy is alive for the first tick but dead on later ticks, later ticks will not include them so everyone else will take more damage
>One tick can be blocked by Kaupe
>Can't be blocked by Kaite or other reflect sources except sometimes it can under very hyper specific scenarios, maybe, depending on server settings don't worry about it
>Can be reduced by Wall of Fog (not relevant to ccRO)
>Stopped by GTB (ccRO's GTB card just provides another 30% resist to EQ which is a unique syntax)

But with how easy mode ccRO is, surviving EQ as the tank is child's play. Hell, everyone except for ranged DPS can survive powered up EQs if they have the right gear and enough cards, something not even remotely possible in vanilla.

Holy fuck Muka sound effect is so annoying i think im going to turn my sound off
Sounds like scratching a blackboard with a fork

>>2387093
I should be good then, i did this build once and valk was sure enough to tank and barely feel it, but then came ifrit and just ate me and my team of random's ass.
Wondering if i should swap my +1DEF sword for a fortune blade for more survivability

>>2387115
>Wondering if i should swap my +1DEF sword for a fortune blade for more survivability
On ccRO it really won't matter but on vanilla it's typically a good choice to. As the main tank you're going to be sitting inside safety wall spamming counter attack. The order of operations is
>Apply Counter Attack (only vs basic attacks)
>Apply Perfect Dodge (only vs basic attacks)
>Apply flee (vs all physical attacks that use HIT check, but won't matter since you have no flee)
>Apply safety wall to block hits (vs all melee attacks)
So fortune sword is the optimal choice in almost all situations. It's 20% less damage taken but more importantly helps to preserve your safety wall for VERY long periods of time because almost all the attacks that would consume SW are instead going towards counter attack/pdodge. As long as SW holds, you won't be taking any of Ifrit's or Valk's skills that deal 100k+ raw damage. I've seen an entire party except tank wipe to ifrit and the tank can maintain SW for a solid 15 seconds just by spamming counter.

>>2385835
Its quite possibly the only good Ninja dagger, and also only for magic ninjas. It's also not that rare.

>>2387137
Makes perfect sense
Also, i should go VIT/AGI, for the extra hp pool and faster counter animation correct?

>>2387191
99 vit always as tank
AGI can help, but LUK can also help provide more p.dodge. STR is a choice if weight limit is a concern (not on ccRO because of all the effects that increase weight), a little bit of INT can sustain your counter attacks indefinitely without needing SP pots. Really it doesn't matter, just play around with the other stats because it's ccRO. You can also just hold down counter now on the ccRO client which is completely busted, before you'd have to manually spam every counter.

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>>2387215
>AGI can help
Even more on ccro

>>2387223
Doing high level scaled will also provide you further resistance vs big3/bio3 mvps, up to another 20% resistance
It really is trivial to survive their hits once you're endgame

I love how ethereal the knowledge about RO is. Documentation is shoddy, most builds out there are outdated or suboptimal. Every sever has its own quirks. Small groups or in some case singular players can shift the meta. Some scholars are combing through eAthena's source code.

Do the Angry Lunatics that spawn sometimes when you kill an egg drop something unique if you menage to kill them or something?
Or are they there just purely to annoy you.

>>2387246
Part of the reason the knowledge is so spotty is because the landscape of players have been on private servers for longer than a lot of newfags have been alive, and even if you don't include server specific changes, just differences in server version, patch version, server type (eathena vs hercules)

Shit's a wonderful mess.

>>2387251
they drop holy eggs for the seasonal shit

>>2387254
Also even officials have had very different versions. Partially because the official patches would be offset by months or even years (because official servers were basically franchises licensing a copy of the game, and had to pay for updates), and also because certain official servers like fucking iRO would jerry-rig their own solutions to missing code. Because of this, kRO, jRO, iRO, even other officials like euRO have minute differences that never got properly documented and the "official standard" is whatever some dumb asshole feels like it is.

>>2387254
>>2387288

This unintentionally solves one of the biggest issues of modern MMOs: ease of information. In any big modern game it's trivial to find out the best build, the best gear, the best rotations and so on and so forth. In RO? Not so much. You can rely like 80% on your core understanding of the game, but beyond that things are shrouded an mystery and knowledge is often actively gatekept.

>>2385703
nice pillow shading lmfao

>>2387215
>You can also just hold down counter now
Man i saw this change and didn't thought much other than deleting my mana with improve conc, but it's huge for counter, my fingers won't suffer anymore

>>2386371
>retard uses fire aoe spell on mob resistant to fire while only targeting one enemy
radical. at least use fire BOLT

/rog/ the helpful

>>2386371
thats a mushroom dude

>>2387374
All I see here are helpful posts

hold up is the mage anon here that Maguito guy? it would make total sense

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>>2387613
Hard to believe but I wasn't being ironic

>>2386273
show me ur equip/stats/skilll build plizz

>>2386273
what abou sinX? can a sinX reach 20k dps?

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>>2387824
Sin is like the weakest melee class on ccro, 20k is too high (without outfits and party buffs)
10k-15k is probably what you should expect when fully geared, high card count and using converters depending on what you're fighting

This is about half the damage or less of a good melee class

Sin(x) relies entirely on two things to deal damage, one is party buffs and the other is EDP and they don't get EDP here

With min-maxed gear, all cards, full set of party buffs, and most importantly the beta outfit
They can hit "good class" damage numbers using venom knife + venom splasher + poison status
But that is a lot of effort to basically turn yourself into a hunter that is sometimes better than a hunter (against very high defense mobs, because you can equip ice pick)

Can I solo MVPs on knight on ccRO?

i wouldnt mind helping people with mvps if it wasnt taking SO FUCKING LONG for you to get coins

I just spent 30 coins making a cute costume...

The best part of playing ccRO is being able to make use of all these various Lv.4 weapons from ancient history in lieu of the typical carded slop.

>>2388256
If you have to ask you can't.

>>2388256
With enough defense, enough bowling bash and enough pots you can do anything anon

Any updates on doddlerRO in the past half year or so?

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>>2387821
For what i usually spend on it, it's incredibly not cost efficient, but i'm a retard and like to farm comfy, the build is good to kill every non-mvp enemy up to and including salamanders
So picrel is the build
Currently i have Claymore trap instead of triple attack, because i'm enjoying some stone curse memes with friends, but once i pay an asura to get me a lady tanee i'll swap back since that's a fucking lot of free damage.
I also have a Platinum sword in the pocket at all times to deal with high DEF/Flee chuckle fucks.

>>2388209
Sin-Alpha does get culling strike at 25% of enemy's HP though. It doesn't really matter vs a lot of targets, but it does make them able to cull some tougher enemies like morroc ghosts, thana enemies, even MVPs, though the cap is 40k damage which is pretty low.

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>>2388657
Skill build changed back to 1st job for some reason, but it's just this + claymore trap

>>2388652
He posts updates on his discord and on twitter and he's got people contributing. People are speculating that a new test server might happen within 3~5 months because that's when it'll have been a year since the last one. Most 2-1 classes are done already.

We need a devo for meme et. (most likely clearing it) time now!

any alchie free to fcp for meme et?

>>2388784
Now that you mention, i really should make some glistening coats, i was too deep into getting rank

>>2385685
>star gladiator B
>overrated
That thing is ridiculously overpowered. I really don't understand how anyone would downplay that. I was hunting Odium on my shitty under- and probably miss-geared Sadder, mostly because I have inf pots and only saw Crusader not dying to the power up and it takes me like 2-3 minutes to kill one Odium.
But here comes Star Glad Beta
>Odium dies in in 4 seconds
Aaaalright
They also farm Incarnation Angel like its nothing. Absolutely hydro DPS.

any news on doddler ro

So where does everyone play? CCRO?

Yesterday's Super fails:
>hehehe im gonna steal some Orleans gloves for myself and sell some to become super rich
>level a rogue to 99
>realize i can't steal from boss monsters
And to top the day off
>killing 100 skeggis painfully slow without a card drop

>>2388828
Your mind was almost in the right place anon
>Can't steal orleans
You can steal linens from beholder masters
Rope a soul linker with you first
>Killing skeggis slow
Enchant shadow with cursed water and go bowling bash them into oblivion, it's hilariously busted with rogue animations and high ASPD.

>>2388822
Uaro has the most players
CCRO has a lot less but still has some players
And Ragnav is pretty dead its basically a singleplayer game that requires connection to the internet

>>2388880
Does the soul linker stuff make all of rogues buffs undispellable? Is that even what you mean? I read something like that on my research.
Also now that you are here if i put a sidewinder on a bow for rogue will I get the 20% double attack (drosera card) + 40% from lvl 10 double attack + 5% from card or just 45%?
For beholder master I finally found a setup that one shots them without any buffs needed, so the stupid big eye won't 'sorry about your buffs ;]]' me.
Super safe, super cheap, no headache. But I really wanted the Orleans gloves to try out wizard like the other anon suggested.
30m is just a bit too much.
I'll look into the bowling bash stuff. I did that once to farm mavkas. With no knockback this might be really good.

>>2388960
It makes you immune to the spell dispel, you still can get buff stripped by stuff like getting turned into undead or quag
For the double attack, it only works for daggers, so a bow would be 20% from the drosera card, +5% for how many sidewinder runes you slot and 20% more if you have Alpha rogue
Btw, you can skip the orleans for regular gloves if you get into cooking and make the +4 dex food

>>2388979
Wait, what? Wasn't it so, that if you put a sidewinder card in any weapon, as long as you got the Double Attack passive at lvl10, it will apply lvl10 DA to that weapon? As in Katar/Sword for Assassin and Bow/Sword for Rogue? Wasn't that the thing with the Snake Hat? Is that a renewal thing?
I should look into that cooking stuff or farm some rings today.

>>2388960
you get 50% just for putting the sidewinder card on with level 10 double attack (regardless of what server), but you have the right idea
you'd end up with 50%(lv10 double attack/sidewinder rune)+20%(drosera card) and another 20% if using rogue alpha costume

Today I will remind them that the dumbass card tracker was never used and to never ask about it again

Is Knight Beta even worth it? It seems like fucking nothing

>>2389076
it's pretty dogshit
at least you get the unmounted effect and +10 flee

>>2389079
knight is so shit here...i'm not touching it next season

>>2388828
>hehehe im gonna steal some Orleans gloves for myself and sell some to become super rich
this was me at one point in time
feels bad

>>2389061
it was used, you just werent there for it

>>2389043
Bro I really don't know where I got the 40% chance for lvl 10 DA from, which prob made the whole thing a lot more confusing than it needed to be.
But alright, I was asking because i found with the easy access to crit and high flee for rogue + triple attack, farming with bow AA felt pretty alright.
Just wanted to make sure before wasting a sidewinder rune.
15 more Skeggis, no card btw.

would it be fun to start playing ragnarok online for the first time in 2026, or is it mostly people hopping online for 5 minutes due to nostalgia and leaving? I've never played but always wanted to

>>2389091
Feels really bad mang. Especially since the drop order and % of the other drops made me feel like I cracked the code and I'm basically the smartest guy in the world.
Welp

>40yo men larping as high school girls playing Ragnarok Online for the first time.

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>30 more skeggis

>>2389254
real

seeing how jaded some of you fucks are is kind of depressing, no wonder some people don't talk and just prefer to solo

man walks into a 25 year old game and expects it not to be full of jaded old fucks lmeow

>>2389338
fuck that bitch, cunt should've brought more coins. stingy faggots get the rope

>>2389389
this person is referring to the devo sader who switched to their priest alt specifically to slurp cards from others

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Finally! Jesus fucking Christ.
Farmed 35 Odins, which somehow is still under what i should have gotten. Piece of shit Angel blob thing.

Any server where I can use OpenKore+LLM to simulate a gf?

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>>2389076
Wowee 10% aspd so I can reach 190 with less agi/gear
>have to constantly refresh it
>timing autocounter on most mobs is spotty as hell
>downtime waiting for the ones with slow attack/move speeds to actually path to you and attack
>buff falls off and you have to do it 5x again because you had a few seconds left and thought you could get to another mob in time
It's like marginally better at MVP tanking because of the unmounted parry bonus but then again you could just hop off your mount without a costume/knight A and deal with the slower walk speed

It is easily the second worse costume in the game, first probably being that melee soul linker costume.

>>2388754
MAN if only iam a fucking rich fuck I would sponsored a fucking dev team to make that unity RO a reality
a mordernized RO would hit so fucking hard
no more sluggy tile movement
you can make any custom contents you want with ease just likes the old warcraft 3 maps
man we cant have any nice thing ever fuck this gay earth

>>2389531
Beta wiz is the worse by far, absolute dogshit

>>2389531
Melee Soul Linker is dogshit but its at least something that won't trick people into thinking it's good. Similar to priest alpha being the battle priest, it's never going to be a good class but at least it's not pretending.
Knight-B at least gives 10 flee which by itself is more important than anything wizard beta gives.

>>2389534
I could at least live with the meteor stun rate with a low ACD build/bragi. If they did something like remove knockback from storm gust on it it'd instantly shoot it to the top 5

>>2389546
>Remove knockback
I think bigger, remove the freeze from it.
Or allow it to stack

how many players are left in ccRO after the WOE shit show?

>>2389560
There is no WOE on the server, dramabaiter.

>>2389546
The issue is meteor storm fucking sucks in PVM. It's too inflexible and there aren't enough targets that fall into the range of wanting to cast a 15 second spell, then be stuck in 7 second after cast delay, only to do marginally more damage than you'd get by just pressing fire ball or SG+LoV. Even on vanilla, the use cases in PVM are basically prontera guild dungeon and Manuk. On ccRO where fireball is nearly instacast with massively boosted damage? Meteor storm has NO reason to exist. Also there's further arguments to not wanting to stun targets, though it depends on server architecture. If you stun a target and it doesn't immediately re-aggro when waking up, it'll split off from the stack of monsters, which breaks your VFW alignment and can get you killed. If you have to run away because your fire walls are being eaten too quickly, the stun + lengthy drop times could end up rudeporting mobs.

I like meteor storm conceptually, and it's absolutely bonkers in WoE, but it suuuuuuuuuucks for normal use. But back to wiz beta, giving it a @noknockback command would help it immensely. Let wizard function in parties without pissing everyone off due to half your spells knocking enemies around. Being able to VFW any enemy like it's undead as well. Alternatively give wizard costumes (both?) access to level 5 amplify magic as a way for them to compete with other classes in endgame content. I dunno, it doesn't matter. Everyone is already super saiyan.