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Hate It or Love It Edition

>Season 12: Season of Reckoning
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24267729/prepare-for-the-reckoning-lord-of-hatred-draws-near

>Patch Notes:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24271857/diablo-iv-patch-notes

>Resources for builds:
https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4
https://maxroll.gg/d4
https://d4builds.gg
https://diablo4.gg/

>Miscellaneous (event countdown, leaderboards etc.):
https://helltides.com/

>Trade:
https://diablo.trade/

>Codex:
https://diablo4.cc/

Previously in the Sanctuary: >>2307838
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me? i love it
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it's pretty good
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I really like it if I may say so myself.
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want to go home from work and play
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If you have dupe set pieces always remember to compare the top stats before you melt them in the cube.
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>>2409682
Is there actually any synergy there? Is that better than other affixes that might roll there, like a damage multi, or crit chance or attack speed? I haven't gotten to endgame, so I'm genuinely asking
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>>2409693
I only know about rogue so far but they can roll damage on hit or +skills, I haven't seen attack speed or multipliers yet but Im sure they exist.
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all of the good aspects and uniques have been made exceptionally rare. I’m in torment 12 and still haven’t found arbiters zephyr aspect nor an argent veil. I’ve killed duriel about 15 times since that’s the amount of greater keys I’ve found and still nothing.
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>>2409724
uhhhhh based?
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>>2409724
I’ve found heir of perdition and ring of starless before either of those, I’m not even convinced they’re in the game
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i just slammed a GA during a temper, didn't know that was possible
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>>2409724
Every good aspect is only usable on gloves and jewelry too. Super annoying, I have nothing good to put on the rest of my armor.
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>making a new thread when only at page 6
I'm boiling now dawg.
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>my best and only real choice is helltide
>consider just logging off instead
It may not be the gear grind that kills me it's the fucking forced to do helltides.
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>>2409795
I like Helltides. Now Infernal Bullshits or whatever the fuck those gay things are?
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>>2409845
same. infernal hordes and undercity are the activities i don't wanna do
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>>2409724
Argents drop from zir around t10
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One thing I can't stand is getting interrupted while teleporting. Just let me take the damage but stop interrupting my cast.
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In hindsight that one modifier might not have been a gamble worth taking....
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bwos where do I get pure primordial dust for legendary upgrades so I can leave hard difficulty?
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When do I get my horadric cube? I just beat inarias in the story.
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>>2410088
near the end of the campaign
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>>2410141
Is that what all the new crafting stuff is tied to? I heard you can make your own gear kind of like poe but all I see is tempering like before.
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>>2410153
most people just don't know how to do it yet. You roll ancestral whites (or blue/yellow with a star affix or whatever the fuck this game calls them) and then roll your 4 using items to target the RNG. Once you get 3, you can roll the last one at the mystic, temper it, reroll the aspect % if you need, and then do that one that is likely to prevent you from rerolling if you want to risk it
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i've completed virtually everything in the season, pushed past 100 in the pit, finished all of the seasonal journey quest stuff, etc etc and I still haven't seen the arbiter's zephyr aspect
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>>2410159
Appreciate the effort but none of that made sense. Guess I need to get to that part to see what you are talking about.
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>>2410162
Does the expansion really only have 3 days worth of content? What are we supposed to do for the next 3 months?
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>>2410166
the game doesn’t explain it either, so you might want to look up a guide once you unlock it
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>>2410166
tl;dr it's way better than PoE's gayboy crafting but I'm not so sure Diablo needs deterministic crafting like this at the expense of drops.
Well, whatever, it's fine.
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>>2410171
play other games
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>>2410171
>Does the expansion really only have 3 days worth of content?
He was a prophet
>>2408147
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Damn the game is really fun now. Diablo 4 feels like a good game finally. The slower loot acquisition makes it feel like the loot actually matters again.
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>>2410193
I agree with you even though people are still bitchslapping T100 less than 24 hours in, but the Redditdads are crying so much I do not expect it to stay this way
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>>2410193
war plans actually does help for people like me who can’t decide what to do when they log on
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>2410171
Have you considered picking up a creative hobby and honing it?
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>>2410171
3 days? I am still torment 6. How are you getting drops so quickly? My war plans are still level 1-2. I swear some of you speed demons are not human. Did you even sleep for the past 3 days?
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>>2410215
As someone who has only clocked 3-4 hours since release, I notice some people already paragon 200+ so there's definitely some people taking PTO or something.
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this shit is so cool, all of the ultimates scaling off of disciple damage is crazy strong
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>>2410223
i wfh and i just grinded out all of my work on monday for the week as hard as i could so i could just steal time and play during work hours ;)
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>>2410233
I'm a little jealous, yes.
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>>2410226
>500%
damn, i hope they don’t go nuts like d3 and have like 35k in the future
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Why isn't the cube letting me upgrade this to unique? does it not work on ancestral common items?
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So, what do I do with gear now? Should I still salvage it or is there something I'm supposed to do with the cube? Affixes and aspects on rares seems prohibitively expensive the way it used to do them, so am I supposed to nix that stuff and just go all in on cube?
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>>2410204
i like the war plans too, even though i already kind of have an idea of what i want to do before i even log on. for instance, my current plan is to grind war plan levels up and then never touch it again XD
i did hear that you have to grind the war plan levels for each new character you make tho...
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I'm playing through the base campaign for the first time, been pretty fun actually. Bounced off the game before but I've been having a ton of fun with paladin

What's your favorite right click for paladin bros? For me its divine lance, I've tried the others but this one is just too cool to not use
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How do you unlock Torment difficulty? It says I need to unlock Artificer's Tier but how do I do that?
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I didn't read the details in the last thread, but I recall an anon saying he didn't like the war plans feature. I'm an ape and love the leveling tree aspect of the war plans.
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>>2410383
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>>2410386
the best part about the war plans trees is that they're a little buggy (also weirdly full of typos) and allow some crazy power farming strats. like there's a dungeon boss node that makes helltides the best way to get mythics.
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>>2410320
yeah this is a really weird situation
pretty much since the last xpac they've encouraged players to basically completely skip levelling alts by having tree of whisper caches drop xp globes
paragon levels are realm wide, not sure why the war plan trees need to be character specific
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what the fuck is up with T8 Lilith? first time in the game i feel absolutely stumped. she just oneshots me at the start of combat.
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>>2410522
bugged fight, just get strong enough that you can one shot her phases/tank her bugged out damage zones
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>>2410528
i'm playing the meme blizz spam sorc which is already pretty squishy, gonna have to find a way to scale this bitch up to T12 before i go back to Lilith i guess
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it sucks that dread claw seems to be the defacto build everyone is making guides for on warlock. like if it’s the strongest skill that’s all there is to it, but man is it a really boring play style
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>>2410536
I don’t understand why they’d make it a seasonal journey checkpoint, it’s like a super poorly designed boss fight and the second phase is straight up bugged
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>get weaker with every patch
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>>2410543
yeah i just went back to see if i could try to work around the mechanics, but she just turns in my direction at start of fight and instagibs me, there's nothing i can do lel
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Anyone else challenging themselves and taking it slow? I missed out on playing with my friend group for reasons so I figured since I'm not in a rush I'll try starting out on the highest difficulty and treat it like a challenge run.
Didn't work out it took 10 minutes to kill the first pack of mobs. So I had to drop it to the second highest difficulty but that's been the perfect sweet spot. Every bit of gear looks enticing and a blue drop feels rewarding.
I'm having to look at skills and passives in a whole new light like taking ones that give me some healing and stuff like that. It's been pretty fun so far, not sure how long I'll play like this but it's a nice change of pace from the gogogo blasting mode the game wants you to play normally.
Finding my first yellow was life changing then I just killed the underground boss and 4 yellows dropped I almost creamed my pants. If I get strong enough I'll try bumping the difficulty back up to max.
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>>2410551
never forget that chaos item infernal horde season where the numbers approached D3 levels of crazy
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>>2410564
the thing is anon once you actually get a build going you stay glued to the highest possible difficulty and it’s all gogogo still
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>>2410568
:(
Oh well, that's blizzard for you. Can't balance for shit, I'll try to enjoy it as long as I can.
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>>2410537
Yea, I got bored quick. Nowhere near the variety or fun as paladin was when it dropped early.
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>>2410564
based
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How many skill points do we have total? I am looking at these builds and they seem to have 6 more skill points than I do. I only have 77 but these guides have 83.
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>>2410655
nvm I see they are tied to the capstone dungeon and the season path.
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>>2410263
do you have enough materials for the recipe?
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Somebody told me Barbarian was fun. Why did you lie to me?
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>>2410694
barb was fun in d3
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I licherally shed two tears in the campaign.
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>>2410568
no one wants the farming mode to be ultra difficult roll slop constantly in danger, what the fuck? even poe is all about blasting maps in 60 seconds. you have the pit and the tower for "challenging" yourself with HP sponges and one shot bullshit. listening to you would literally just fucking kill the game.
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I'm hardstuck in T8
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>>2410744
i am going to t1 :)
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the progress sure is slow but steady this season. i've been in a ton of time so far and I'm just now able to spam out 10ish billion damage per hit. I still have a bit of optimizing to do but I doubt hammerdin is gonna be going much further than pit 110.
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It’s pretty hilarious how much stronger layer bosses are now. Like in previous seasons the layer bosses could only scale up to T4 (equivalent of pit 65 now) but with the changes to torment you can get layer bosses scaled up to pit 100. Even with billions of damage per second they still take forever to kill.
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>layer bosses
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>>2410742
You sound bad and called out, no one even mentioned end game.
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>>2410793
fuck me
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if you haven’t messed around with transmuting yet on the cube you should. you can combine nmd sigils, runes, undercity tributes and shit like that into higher tiers until you get highest rarity shit.
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bonk
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>>2410831
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AKARAT CHIMI CHONGA CHIM CHIM CHOO CHOO...
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Can anyone confirm if you can still get greater affixes on tempers?
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>>2410956
you can
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>>2409774
>>2410956
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Oh shit, we can teleport back into the pit now.
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So what's the point of weapon types now if they don't get unique properties like crit on sword, overpower on maces?
Crafting them into uniques on the base weapon type?
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Holy fuck i must be retarded. Can barely do t1 content.
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>>2411008
Different weapons have different attack speeds and damages. Daggers are faster than swords for instance. Also yeah, base types for upgrading to unique.
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>>2410263
It's bugged I think. I tried doing the same and despite having all the ingredients it wouldn't go through.
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feels like I'm plateauing quite hard with dread claws, basically all I'm missing is a unique ring that I can't even confirm is real.

Is there a better warlock end game build?
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>>2411087
what torment are you on bro
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I really wish they brought back Seasonal Rebirth. I'd rather have a few characters that I just keep using between eternal/current season than make alt(s) each season. I would've been a massive convenience QoL just like in D3.
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>>2411109
>I would've been a massive convenience QoL just like in D3
It is interesting that D3 had all these features back in the day, including communities for doing individual stuff (power leveling, gear hunting etc.), looking up people's profiles, achievements and class stats on display for others to see. It's like they forgot these things existed and added to the experience when playing game.
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I'm level 8 now, been playing since launch. This campaign is pretty good.
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>>2411133
Forgot pic
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I just got a magic ancestral. I don't see a recipe for upgrading it to a rare or legendary...
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>>2411139
>level 8
based
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>>2411013
/we/ torment two (2) now
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anyone find a reason to keep or even pick up yellow or blue charms?
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i'm going to have to spec out of apocalypse to fight t8 lilith because i cannot see a fucking thing
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>>2411197
they sell for 150k each
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>>2411161
my build does not feel that good yet. I need level 70, 500 paragon, full mythic equipments 4GA, and high performance meta skill tree....
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>>2411197
you need the dust to reroll charms to go for ancients with good rolls
a fucking LOT of dust
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>>2411224
are you me
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>>2410233
i wfh as well but my "work" consists of attending a million meetings every day so i can't just dip and gayme
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>>2410159
Fuck that give old gearing back, if i wanted crafting autism i would play poe.
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>>2411099
T8
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This kinda sucks. every time you run a rune tribute you need to drop 500 forgotten souls.
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>>2411233
I feel like that the whole time I'm playing, then when I grind for 200 hours and have 1 mythic and haven't found any upgrades in 100 hours, I just wait till the next season to level up again.
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>>2411321
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>>2411323
>he's not cubin'
sucks to suck
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>>2411323
You really want to go back to that boring shit we had before?
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>>2411370
i have not finished killing mephiso yet. I forgot the game got updated.
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I swear I'm losing my mind
farmed Lord zir non-stop yesterday and couldn't get kessime's legacy to drop. I need these updates loot tables anons
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Has Blizzard ever seen a woman? Why are all the Warlock faces like this?
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>>2411400
Paladins body type 2 isnt any better
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What’s the most fun minion build atm?
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>>2411407
The weirdest thing is... it's entirely on purpose. They're 100% capable of making normal or beautiful faces. They just actively choose not to, and instead made 4 horrifying ones. I don't even understand why.
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>>2411412
>They just actively choose not to, and instead made 4 horrifying ones. I don't even understand why.
True, but then ask yourself this: why make the horror man has never seen that is Druid when D:I already existed (not to mention D2 and D2R's druid renditions). It's damn DEI at play again.
That said they could put more tits on females, warlock and slutborn in particular would benefit in their most scant outfits.
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The D4 warlock female VA is trans, so there's your answer
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>>2411412
Because the people responsible for all the dei shit are still there, but cant be as open about it as they were. What i dont understand is why then make sluts outfits for them, do they really think anyone will buy this shit when characters look like that? I mean look at this shit, you cant even tell if its a girl or a guy
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>>2410554
i'm going to try to get her done this morning. i tried just a couple of times last night and can get her down to 1/3 health in her first phase. i think if i just learn the new choreography to avoid the aids, i can do it. also i have nether step in my evade and 2 charges, so that should be ok for tackling the one shot bugs. i rather enjoy a challenging lilith fight actually...
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>>2410828
i can't find a good guide for this. what do the nmd sigils combine into?
i rerolled some charms into ancestrals; that was cool. i tried rerolling 3 of the same unique with crap stats into a new better one but got a crappier one. i got a couple uniques from common items when i was starting out. i'm convinced that i'm not using the cube to its full potential, but i'm jut not sure what i'm missing.
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>>2411370
You mean fun shit and yes. New gearing is fucking exhausting.
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>>2411063
do you guys have that rare red crafting mat tho? hover over the recipe and see if you have any --i'm guessing that's why it isn't working for you
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>>2411328
>drop 500 forgotten souls
>get more blue and yellow runes
kek miss me with that, i will not pay the souls
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>>2411460
Yep, the Enhanced Primordial Dust. I've got it, but every time I put a two-handed axe with the Enhanced and Raw dusts and click to transmute the item the cube seems to be doing something only to yield no results. Very strange unless I'm doing something wrong.
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D2 warlock simply plays and looks better.
>attacks with floating weapons he conjures from his grimoire
>can actually cast spells besides relying on summoning demons
>can play a variety of playstyles, from summoner, caster to debuffer/dots
>has a grizzled look and isn't another young hunched over young person like 60% of D4's classes
Paladin stole warlock's spotlight really hard.
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>>2411496
>Paladin stole warlock's spotlight really hard.
Paladin is giga Chad who smites demons
Warlock is cuck demon boy who gets smited
Simple as
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>>2411484
ohh.... that is strange. hmm and there is a unique 2h axe for that class too, isn't there?
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Would it be gay as hell if I made a build guide or something for my paladin? I’m crushing pit 110+ and my build is way different from anything I’m seeing on mobalytics or maxroll
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>>2411522
Please do, and share it here
I'm interested in rerolling into a paladin later on if I get bored too quickly on necro
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>>2411496
Paladin is such a well executed concept D4 that it's not even a contest. Plus Warlocks are supposedly at the height of their power in D4 while looking like hobos you'd pass by in LA or Detroit. In comparison the D2R Warlock is elegant and commands much more respect.
Funny that right now in D4 the only thing Warlocks got going for them is the fact of being purposely overtuned so they will play better i.e. push content more then other classes.

That being said I'm enjoying Pally and Barb (after the update) the most. Cool classes whose models don't make me lose sleep over either.
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>>2411537
>that image
You just can't compete with that level of KINO
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>>2411537
the paladin sets in this game really do look great
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>wonder what kind of braindead retards still give money to blizzard in current year
>see this thread
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>>2411554
>wonder what kind of unemployed retard browses vm threads for games he doesn’t even play
>see this creature
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>>2411561
it takes someone truly pathetic to waste time going into random game thread that they couldn't care less about to try and shit on people kek
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doing the new statues gives you obols, gold, and gem fragments when you click on each final one. also you get cute little scenes of lilith and inarius and linarian after doing the group for each island. at some point it comes with a title historian
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what classes are you having fun with? im on necro and while I like the auto-summon minions, lack of proper mobility skills is tiresome and the minions while cool don't really do much damage for me
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>>2411586
necro always does more damage when you sacrifice your minions
did you try warlock? the nether step is great for mobility and you can also have some amount of summons which don't gimp you hard necro minions does
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>>2411586
I'm running a half-assed AotD minion build, so far it does T8 well but not quite as fast

I'm running into material bottlenecks so I think I'll dial down difficulty to T7 to farm up a mat reserve for improvements
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I do not understand how endgame works
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>>2411537
D2R Warlock is an angry wizard
D4 Warlock is some kind of fetishist

Honestly, I believe the "peak of power" line is bullshit and each team just developed a vision for the class without much contact with each other.
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>>2411586
Right now I'm running Auradin Paladin, coming from Blessed shield last season. So fun it's very barebones, I don't have all aspects nor uniques/mythics, but I managed to grab the entire charm set. I'm really enjoying this season so far.
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>>2411631
>So fun it's very barebones
So far*
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>>2411622
Run war plans on the highest torment tier you're comfortable with, if you feel like you're killing too slow, drop down a tier or two
Unlock torment tiers via the Pit and seasonal journey progression
Farm up as many legendary aspects you can to either get upgrades or salvage to get their aspect power
Build guides are trickling in so you should have something to aim for soon if you're very lost
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if i have the 3 set does that mean i can refund all upgrades from talent tree and spend them elsewhere?
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>>2411644
What's a reasonable torment level? I heard somewhere that despite adding more torments, T4 is not the equivalent of a sort of T1 from before?
Last night i did start working to upgrade my available torment levels, and 2 was still fine so I'm trying to get to 4.
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>>2411427
>The D4 warlock female VA is trans
you're a fucker, i nearly deleted my whorlock, so i had to check. luckily you're wrong. Her name is Arianna Ratner
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>>2411666
T4 is essentially equivalent to old T1
If you really want a direct comparison, look at the pit levels and where they currently place torment levels on it
Then compare those to what they were previously
Just starting out anywhere between T1-T4 is reasonable
I HIGHLY recommend taking the grigorie knight warplan keystone. I think it's the lair boss tree? It spawns a knight (damn near Everytime) you open a helltide chest. The knight drops like 1-3 legendaries guaranteed. That was the fastest way to farm up aspects for me
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should i fish for runes at jeweler recraft or cube 3 to 1 ?
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>reroll plans all three times to not get infernal hordes
I am not sorry
I WILL kill again
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i have a question for someone smarter than me (everyone) im just messing with tempers and i noticed i can add 40% shadow damage or 40% abyss, all my skills are abyss and they all do shadow damage, so i guess its down to what my paragon glyphs are, which are mosty abyss right? but then my weapon has a shadow damage multiplier, i just don't know if it matters. plz help
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>attempt to do my first world boss in years
>go look up world boss countdown website and go to where it says the boss will spawn
>nope boss spawns in another area completely
>its dead by the time i get there

Okay....
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T12 astaroth is like a 15 minute fight that guy has quadrillions of health
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How the FUCK do I get scattered prisms
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>>2411760
retard
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Which face looks less like a man's?
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>>2411868
None of them do, but if you want an opinion on which is least ugly I would say bottom right then bottom left
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>>2411868
Top or bottom left
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>>2411886
>Bottom right
Uhm, about that...
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>>2411899
>reading comprehension
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>>2411708
This but helltides. Avoiding them until I have the Duriel node.
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nice, got all the way to T8 before remembering tempering was a thing
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>roll helltides on warplans
>1 minute to go
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>>2411967
>I had 150 left from my last warplan
>got out just in time
HIGH WAY TO THE DAN GER ZONE
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>>2411749
i think you want to go with whatever multiplier you can stack the most in various places.... hth
>>2411777
mercenary barter cache, find them playing the game... hth
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can u explain to me like im a drooling retard mutant faggot
how the fuck do you use the cube for GA rares
>2 GA rare drops
>you cube it
and then what, i didnt like the GAs so I did a chaotic reroll with offense focus and it removed the GA
so you dont get guaranteed GA when cubing?
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Do decrepify and iron maiden stack when used by the same Necro?
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>>2412090
no matter what you do you can get unlucky and remove shit. What you should have done there is add affix, target it if it's not good and it's a different category of the two GAs you got, and add again. You can mystic reroll the 4th one so you don't need to RNG that one in the cube.
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>>2411773
Sounds fun but is the juice worth the squeeze? Do you get way higher and rarer drops for such a drawn out battle?
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what skill do people use to level on spiritborn?
just hit level 30 doing random shit on the 3rd difficulty whatever its called going through the story
i guess its not a huge deal but just wanna see whats actually good
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I can't even kill the burning butcher in infernal hordes. Does he have the HP of a lair boss or something?
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>>2411465
You get zero runes now unless you pay the forbidden soul toll.
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>t12
>haven't seen a single unique charm
Going to be a fucking week before I can create this godslayer charm at this rate
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>>2411513
I was >>2410263 and yes I have 20 of the red material, Seems like it wouldn't let me do any 2h axe at all which was bullshit
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>>2412169
Evade used to be best but I think it got killed for leveling so not sure anymore, I think winging it is the most fun regardless
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>>2412260
that can't be true
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>>2412265
i have a bunch of the unique charms, but how are people getting the unique seals for the middle?
i did re-roll my seals and got one with the +charm, but the affixes on it really sucked
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I just started playing. How do I tell which is better overall. Do I place more importance on the green number or do % multipliers make up the difference? Is there a general rule of thumb to follow because I have no idea which is better or when to upgrade.
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>>2412128
no, the best part about it was rare crafting mats. it was a serious slog.
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>>2412326
I wouldn't lie about this. I am pretty upset about it. Just another forbidden soul sink the grind for.
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>>2412441
In the case of when you're levelling, the weapon with the higher dps is almost always more important. So right is probably better despite the damage based affixes - but you'll be replacing it relatively quickly while levelling anyway.
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WTF you could convert these to another in the set the entire time....SO many hours wasted
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>>2412265
thanks for reminding me i could do this, just crafted this bad boy
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>>2412485
when will the cubelets ever LEARN
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>>2412485
I swear there is fucking nothing in the game that teaches you this or anything else about the gear. Does blizzard just expect youtubers to do it?
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>>2412500
works for PoE
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>You can only equip one unique charm
LAME.
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>>2412496
feels good bros
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>>2412509
for enthusiast niche games like PoE it's fine. Diablo is supposed to be a real game though.
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>>2412397
Are there any seals recipes eg. converting 3 legendary ones + some extra dust/prism into a unique?
Finding uniques not to mention mythics if those even exist will be painful otherwise.
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>>2412496
What's the craft for unique charms?
I need a red blessing bad
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>>2412526
if there is a recipe, i don't know it
best i can figure is keep rerolling the seals until you get a USEABLE one with +charm on it for the meantime
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should i just run with this and hava nagila my way through the game?
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>>2411496
I'm actually sad that D4 lock has none of the D2 lock weapon skills. Just one fucking ability, please.
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>check the tower leaderboards
>barbarian and rogue at the top pushing it
Are we back barb bros?
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>>2412669
rogue got nerfed this morning, rightfully
t. rogue
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>>2412671
I don't know if I'd say rightfully
I just started playing again but hasn't rogue been hot shit for over a minute?
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>>2412718
we still have good builds, that one was broken with one unique making poison infusion do stupid damage
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>chilling in helltide
>activate maiden
>lock arrives
>starts spaming 1548932 hands across the whole screen
I am gonna level a lock now
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What's a good paladin build for the season?
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>find mythic seal that frees up one charm slot from sets
>not even worth using because you can't equip more than one unique charm and my legendary seal has better stats
Ok...
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>>2412979
I would way rather run a 5pc and 3c bonus together than a unique
I want that
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>>2412511
There's a different seal that let's you equip more than 1
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Thoughts on Paladin?
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>>2412869
>>2413164
Isn't is always auradin for the cozy walking sim
Hammeridin for a bit more interaction?
I don't think you can go wrong really
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Man... we need some dedicated stash tabs or at least ones with smaller grids so more gear can fit.
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>>2413272
Yeah, this charm stuff is super fun but damn it's taking up a lot of space unless you just want to toss everything, which sucks
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>add wow classic T2 tier armor transmog to the store
>each set gets a random wow classic weapon skin
>warrior
>sham
>paladin
>warlock
>mage
>rogue
>druid
>death knight even though death knight isn't a wow classic class
>don't add hunter or priest
I dunno how I feel about necros getting the death knight set but them getting Ashkandi, Greatsword of the Brotherhood over Barbarian's is kek
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>>2413361
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>>2413361
Barbarians get two puny axes
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>>2413361
spiritborns get atiesh?
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>>2413388
corn on the cob tier
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>>2413368
who doesn't associate necros with asskandy
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Do I need to get the first expansion if I just want to play the 2nd?
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>>2413460
no
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>>2413388
That's not Atiesh, Atiesh has a bird on the top. I have no idea what that is, and Drek'Thar duel wields melee weapons not a staff so I don't know why his mentioned.
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Poison Cowl for rogue got nerfed, now cold Umbracrux Cowl is 100% next.
Are there any good rogue builds that are not using bugs that are going to get patched? I kinda was hoping one of the projectiles was good so I can relive D3 Demon hunter
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>>2413361
They also added a reliquary tab for warcraft like the DOOM one. Some free weapons and flags.
I don't know if it's all free or you need to pay for the rest.
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well at least the campaign wasn't as awful as vessel of hatred
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F R E E
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>>2413627
True
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kek it looks so bad wtf were they thinking
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I hope they put the WoW fag umbrella in, I want to wear it because it's funny
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>>2413631
The free weapons are actually good this time
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>>2413627
It'd actually have been an achievement to spend 2 years on the expansion and have the campaign be worse than VOH, people forget the VOH campaign was literally escorting an emo asian chick vomiting blood everywhere for 2 hours then you kill a dog then it ends with MEPHISTO WILL RETURN
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The last white man in the diabloverse dies off screen doing nothing valiant. Guess it's better than a butterfly. There's not a soul left in this franchise still alive that I care about. Wish I could side with Mephisto, he's right humans suck.
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Just got ring of starless skies before my uniqur pants drop
GIVE ME MY SHORTS DAMMIT
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>>2413631
I haven't played since launch, how hard is it to earn these and do I need to be max level?
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>>2413784
>don't get to have any last moment with him since you were in the dream sequence
>he's killed in a brutal way by someone he loved
>though the crows circling him was going to be a fakeout after Neyrelle survived the last expansion despite having a soulstone with her
Diablo games have always been bleak and depressing
>The whole town in the first game being massacred
>Marius
>Cain and Leah
>the whole base game of 4
Vessel of Hatred was an outliner. Lilith should be dead dead and never show up again to make this expansion have impact.
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Wouldn't it be nice if there was some kind of tracker for these community challenges? Or at least an update how it progresses? What a crazy and novel idea!
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>>2413556
Umbracrux disabled
LOL
that was fast
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They need to give warlock a different color scheme. Their abilities look identical to the enemy abilities.
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So many paypiggies already
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>>2413800
I have acquired the shorts
IM GAMING
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love him desu
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Did they change lair boss drop tables? I'm having a fucking impossible time trying to get a Sundered Night which doesn't seem to come from Grigoire anymore
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>>2414057
Nothing drops anymore.
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>>2414057
apparently astaroth and bartuc are lair bosses now, maybe it got shifted to their loot table?
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>there's like 3 rings
>hit the double on this
t..thanks..y..you too...
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Just bought the game w/ expacs yesterday and am making my first character.
Give me a class and build to shoot for long term. I don't want to read up on the classes, I want to just go on a recommendation.
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>>2414203
barb can't go wrong
most builds are 2-3 warcries (sometimes charge, sometimes stomp, sometimes iron skin), ancients, and your bonk ability
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>>2414203
Pally if you want a solid build from level 1 through torment 12. Decent build variety, good survivability, and can cover most playstyles
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>>2414203
paladin is retard friendly and powerful, has builds with plenty of damage and movement utility+speed.
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Is the game still mostly sorcerors?
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anyone rolled this and got a collection of mysteries? any good loot?
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>>2414232
if chinese you play meta
if russian you play druid
if hate change you play necro
if normie you play any other class
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>>2414234
I haven't received anything worthwhile from it after opening ~20
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>>2414247
and if you're retarded, you play paladin.
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>>2414253
Sounds like someone's a little butthurt they don't get to eat crayons.
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>>2414057
They definitely did
All the resources out there said kessime's Legacy drops from Lord zir but I ran the shit out him, nothing. Drops from Andariel now.
Problem with everyone playing warlock is the data for the other drop tables is so low it's trickling in

What's the best way to get gems. I always feel like I'm so damn behind on gem frags
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>>2414341
I am playing paladin for the record. Which is why I know retards are doing it.
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>>2414057
>impossible time trying to get a Sundered Night
had the same issue, it turns out Bartuc now drops it. in short: they changed the loot tables without mentioning it. go figure
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butcher boss is tanky as fuck on t7
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>>2413784
I fully disagree, if anything it adds onto the imagination of the interaction between the two. Admittedly, I'm bit of a romanticist and absolutely thought about what could possibly be running through Lorath's head. The fact he left the spear behind showing his love for her was still there said something.
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>>2413802
Its easy as long as you play, Enemy you kill drops the currency for the reliquary to unlock the cosmetics. The more you kill the faster you get the currency.
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>>2414438
You're reading way too much into blizzard storytelling. The point was he shouldn't have died like that in the first place.
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>>2414234
it gave me a stack of 6k obducite once! ..and was kind of a dud the other times..
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>>2414385
>Bartuc now drops it
Motherfucker, literally the least farmable guy
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>>2414484
A story is a story anon, I choose to believe however I desire.
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>>2414493
You choosing to suck tranny cock is your choice alright but the rest of us don't have to like blizzards aids riddled semen on our faces.
Then again the game was made for people like you, slurp away my friend, slurp away.
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>>2412754
M1PY had the highest clear without umbracrux, so there's that. Whenever umbracrux comes back it'll be trash tier again so no reason to keep it.
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have they changed the way aspect levels are acquired? i just salvaged an axe that was 21/21 in its respective aspect and when i went to put this aspect on another item, its only 16/21!
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>>2414510
his ice version used it though. It was his video that got it nerfed like an hour later
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Where the fuck are the greater lair keys I've been farming in t7 all day and haven't found shit
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>>2413683
The weapons aren't free only the first few items.
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>>2414527
1500 plat for these weapons.
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the devs are real cock suckers for making that lilith fight a mandatory part of the seasonal journey
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Old men be like
>I GOTTA DO MECHANICS?
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>>2414521
Dw my luck is just as shit on 12s.
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I really miss uniques having fixed affixes
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>>2414521
war plans and lower tier lair bosses
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>>2414609
dude same it’s just more rng shit to have to optimize now. I’m all down with that to an extent but give me something consistent!
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>>2414609
>0
Yeah, the more im playing the more I wish they were just set stats. You can't even change them. Now we need to hope for perfect stats, hope for decent greaters, hope for a high roll on the unique aspect, hope its ancestral. There are many more layers of RNG now.
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if I kullean an amulet can I keep slamming them until I get the aspect I want or is it one and done?
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Yoooo place I haven't visited in 23 years.....

I pogged a little, as the kids say these days.
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>>2414672
in the new expansion they play old d1 and 2 music at one point but i didn't feel nostalgic only disgust that modern blizzard would puppet the corpse of a much better company just for cheap points
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>>2414669
Keep slamming.
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>>2414694
North has been dead for 21 years, let is go
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>>2414669
to answer my own question yes you can
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>2414694
For me, its the fact he not only paid, but wasted his time to be disgusted. You should be a comedian.
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>>2414668
At the very least you can reroll the unique aspect value in the cube if you can land other useful affixes. Saying that, I've rerolled one before that landed on the exact same value so I effectively just deleted a fairly rare mat for nothing
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bros these wow armors and weapons are sick...
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>>2414734
I've never spent money on cosmetics in this game but I'm really fucking tempted
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>>2413647
this looks dope wtf are you smoking.
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>>2414609
>give uniques RNG affixes
>can't reroll at occultist or cube
It's fucking terrible now.
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>>2414554
yeah, and she's really tough on T8 too. i didn't beat her today. but i just upgraded a whole lot of my gear (everything), so i'm going to try her again in the morning. it's do-able!
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>>2414703
this is good to know! i was holding off on using that mat, cause i wasn't sure if i'd be stuck with a brick. thx for the info!
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TIME TO PAY THE SOULS TAX AND PROBABLY GET FUCKALL FOR IT. BUT IF I EVEN GET ONE GOD DAMN EOM OR OHM IT'LL BE WORTH IT.
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how much toughness do i need
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>>2414661
Could be nice with like 2 fixed affixes and 2 random ones
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https://youtu.be/mRI2gmifxM0
minion barb looks hilarious.
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>Curse this place. I'm being followed.
Teehee.
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>>2414734
Yea, I'm glad I didn't go Paladin this season otherwise I'd have bought the judgement set
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>The sets are tier 2, with judgement front and center
I like how even blizzard knows when they were good, and what their best set design of all time was.
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warlock is the last class
don't see what other niche is left
unless they pull something out of their ass like WOW evoker
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I wish they would let us spam [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker] in Trade channel like the good ol' days. I miss D3's chat communities like [d3g] days.
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I don't u nderstand, why would I "Upgrade to Legendary" when I could just use aspects? Is there aspects that are not available to imprint or something?
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Damn there is so much trash gear now. Time for the loot filter.
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>>2414712
Transexual women who passive aggressively post like yourself have no room to talk. You should definitely get your E levels checked.
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>>2414981
it's to roll for aspects that you haven't found yet
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please heed my warning if you're hearing this. if you're running war plans on t10+ DO NOT take the butcher fight if you see it as an option. i don't know if it's bugged or something but he had hundreds of quintillions of health. i can do any of the lair bosses on t12 basically instantly but this was like a 20 minute fight.
>i didn't even have a greater lair key
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Ayeeee it's where the hell portal used to be
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is the aspect of arbiter's zephyr in the game anymore? I'm para200, been rolling tons of boots whenver I can, and still haven't seen it
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>>2415033
Simmer down, this is a Diablo thread, not your hyperfixation on trannies. Learn to enjoy your own free time instead of paying for a game pulse checking about the old Blizz long gone. You're paying modern Blizz for the privilege of being here while trannies live in your head for free.

Above all lighten up faggot.
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Trannies hands typed this
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Cringe, this shit is so played out come on millennials don't you know anything else?
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>>2415225
They can move on from Diablo 4 story with this conclusion and start working on Diablo 5.
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>>2415261
Maybe we'll even get to meet Diablo there.
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I feel like I'm doing something wrong.
I played through VoH on a non-seasonal right before LoH and jumped right into it afterwards, and it took me basically the entire campaign to just *mostly* get my stuff replaced, and since maxxing out and finishing the campaign and getting into the torment difficulties for the first time I've barely upgraded any of my gear. Like, some rare gloves that were a marginal upgrade/sidegrade.

Is the idea that I just slog until P300 and unlock all the legendary nodes and then I'll be strong enough to do T7 and THAT is where loot actually starts dropping, or what?
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>>2415300
>loot actually starts dropping
D4 is Poe 1.2 now. Loot doesn't drop anymore now you get crafting mats and you are expected to make your own gear.
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i am guessing all the new things like the map, cube and story are only for paypiggies?
for the plebs nothing changed and it is still a shitty boring game
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Man, game performance are fucking shit. Keep getting slowdowns and dc. Forget playing Hardcore
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>>2415304
Yeah but even then my baseline for whether something is worth pursuing is that it at least starts off with 2 affixes that are remotely close to what I want and that is proving to be tough all on it's own.
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Thinking of jumping back in. Not played since launch but Warlock looks fun and more something that suits me. How is it?
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>tfw still stuck in t2.
don't know why i can't get stronk bros...
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>>2415330
pretty meh compared to paladin, i thought it would have been overdesigned and busted like pally and spiritborn were on release
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>>2415275
Do you really expect to meet Diablo in a Diablo game?
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>>2415342
>to meet Diablo in a Diablo game
What a wild concept.
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>>2415330
warlock
>high cortisol
paladin
>low cortisol

Paladin only has to press a button every 15 seconds.
Warlocks have to press their skils every 0.3 seconds to do damage due to "recast" mechanic, clutter their screen in visual aids and all of their powerful builds are locked behind uniques from laie bosses which you can't target farm anymore.
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Bros, what's the fastest/most efficient way to boost an alt to 70 now? Aside from plugging in 50% extra XP charms that is.
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Rogue really got fucked hard this expansion. Nerfed two build defining items. Death trap bugged, Rain of arrows gimped, All of rogue's damage depends on getting crowd control off so it struggles against bosses with stagger resistance. Someone at blizzard hates rogues.
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Diablo 4 could honestly be wrapped up with how the story ended. Everything started with Mephisto and Lillith, both gone, Tyrael and MC are the only two left.
Sanctuary was barely recovering from Malthael's rampage; Lilith and Mephisto's death toll must have put most nations on the brink of extinction now.
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Shit, do you need a mythic charm to hold a full charm set + a unique charm?
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>>2415442
>mythic charm
I meant seal dammit
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>>2415209
>self own
LOL
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>>2415370
warplans i hear. i'm going on this journey soon. my beloved sorc gf... the warlock experiment is over for me i think.
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>>2415374
I rerolled off of it a bit ago because I just don't like it. Spin to Win feels like Gay Barbarian. I liked Demon Hunter in 3, though.
I made a spirtborn and at least leveling, it's fun as fuck. I'll be 70 in an hour or so
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>50GB patch
what are they smoking??
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>>2415476
Those Warcraft skins ain't gonna appear in the shop for ya otherwise Anon! You better start your download now!
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So is the game now unbeatable unless you buy the xpac to get the cube and stuff?
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>>2415513
It's not unbeatable but you'll have to grind a lot more instead of just equipping a charm set and calling it a day
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>>2415530
Is the loot filter also expansion only?
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>>2415442
No, there are legendary seals with +1 charm slot. Just keep looking. The mythic seal lets you get a 5 piece bonus of one set and a 3 piece bonus of another.
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>>2415534
No, that is for everyone. It is hidden in options - playability
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starting with a white item and crafting stuff on to it is really fun. i need more exalted or- i mean refined primordial dust.
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Is the Necro Lich King skin the same as the last collab? If so it's weird that it's the only one returning
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>>2415629
That's a different one. The previous one was the lich king's set and this one is one of his knight's (WoW lorelet here so it might be some important character's as well).
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>>2413683
Very much a dick move bli$$. Those weapons transmogs were available as legenedaries in D3. No extra purchases needed.
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Did they nerf infernal hordes? I can barely get 666 aether playing solo.
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Blizzard are absolute cunts forcing this bugged shitty fight for the season journey
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>>2415916
What's the build that can comfortably kill the bitch nowadays? Warlock? Pala? Barb?
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>>2415920
Probably paladin or barb. Anything that can instantly nuke her.
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>>2415916
They nerfed it by making you skip all of her phases if you're doing enough damage.
Remember when she had forced hp threshold phases and the skulls oneshot you? She's extremely easy now.
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>>2415951
By the time some classes have that kind of damage the rewards are irrelevant. Its not easy for the weaker classes.
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I hope they just do away with the 5 min break between helltides. I do a couple of NMDs or Pits whenever it happens, but damn is it annoying having to wait for helltides to reset when they are in your war plan.
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i got her down!!
running a warlock with nether step and the boots that turn evades into nether step, doing fire and apocalypse, my own build. i kept dying and dying to her one shots, until i switched out my gloves for the endurant faith gloves: got her on the first try! it turns all of her one-shots into DoTs. try it out!
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So uh... when does barbarian become fun?
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>barbarian
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How do we target farm mythics now?
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Does anyone even find this attractive? Who would waste money on this
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>>2415920
Blessed Shield Paladin or WW Baba
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>>2416059
Gay dudes are unable to function without committing public indecency
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Ngl, those Illidan wings look tempting. Screw them for not putting those into that crummy event.
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Why cant d4 devs into events? No, i wont buy your 60$ dress up collab that you slapped together with 0 effort
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I think the problem with this season is the crafting mats are ways too scarce. By the time you attempt to craft something you already run out of forgotten souls. The rate at which you farm the souls is abysmal. Everything feels too scarce. You can't even use the cube much because you run out of the mats.
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>>2416059
You posted the worst character with ugly makeup. Try a caramel skin with a cute face.
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>>2416076
you really go from rags to riches this season. once you’re in t10-12 the mats are flowing and doing just one or two war plans will have you stocked up. I have hundreds of everything now.
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>>2416076
I dont have enough forgotten souls to even open up socket slots, let alone craft anything..
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>>2416092
500 souls to run a rune tribute
50 souls each time you enchant
30-50 souls changing an aspect
50 souls adding a socket

There are so many thing that need souls now.
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>unclick node on war plan
>costs millions of gold

Holy fuck Blizzard this should be free...
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>>2416109
Don't forget temperings an ancestral. 25 souls each time. Good luck fishing for the greater affix temper.
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How do I get good at this game?
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>>2415763
I haven't gotten that much aether a single time and I don't care to, that shit is maximum aids.
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>>2416059
>a half naked skinny woman with normal breasts

Heterosexual men for the most part
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>>2416109
I have dozens of thousands of them idk did I just get them from disassembling loot?
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>not having fun
>reroll spiritborn
>all the males look maximum zest
>make a chick for a change
oh my
you told me this game was 'woke'



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