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Javelin release on Aegis day or I ropemax
Ironclad is comfyAlso they gave kraken owners an ironclad assault loaner.
>>2465066Better start practicing tying a noose now, you will be very embarrassed if you're too retarded to even kill yourself when the time comes.
Did they fix the godaweful quality system yet? Not touching crafting anyway.
>>2465148I heard something about reducing quality amount.>>2465066Ironclad (a) is unplayably buggy and a true multicrew ship with only torps on pilot. But yes.
This has worked smoothly so far, granted I was on low pop shards.Docking snaps very easily with my Aurora but the Perseus is a bit of a struggle.
>>2465148Each type of mineral gem etc has a band of quality.For instance. Iron mid band is 600 lets say. Top band is 800. Best is 1000. You will never find iron that's not 600, 800 or 1000 quality.Meanwhile copper will have 650 mid, 780 top and 1000 best. (not actual numbers)The idea is that there's only 4 different quality numbers for a mineral so you can stack shit in your inventory. Also it means when they implement the ability to substitute minerals for other minerals, you'll be able to substitute a mineral that has a better quality band than the one the item uses by default that you may have more of.
The Tiburon is completely retarded, they should've just slapped on the fucking beam cannon on the current hammerhead with it's stupid-fuck "speed hole" or at the very least turn that space into a fucking barracks for marines, but no they went full retard instead with the Tiburon, also the fucking anvil odin looks like a retarded piece of shit with far too many of it's singular guns being extremely limited in terms of firing arcs and they're gonna fucking slap on a fucking 6000 dollarino pricetag on there if not closer to 7000 cause 'fuck you godless goyim meat animal, pay for the jpeg!'
>>2464918They won't make that flyable till shitizen 1.0 now go buy another one.
>>2465320To me its funny that their dogshit system is so bad they realized in 1 patch it doesnt work
>>2465441They don't play their own game and are basically winging development.
>>2465330Tiburon is unironically almost all the fixes that HH needs.. except still needs too much crew, now lacks a docking port (which is required for legionnaire).... but then i saw the interior - how they used the space in the nose of the ship... god damn it how dumb.
>>2465445That's closed door gayme development for ya!
>>2465445I cannot understand what is so hard about copying eve.They also already have three ways of controlling rarity (amount of ore in asteroid, amount of asteroid of type, amount of material required for crafting) so why the fuck would you add a fourth. Junior game developer stuff.
>>2465491You could even make rarity by location of the type of asteroid. If all Xylitol ultra rare material astroids are in single poi in pyro, it becomes quite rare by definition due to being so contested.
>>2465491>I cannot understand what is so hard about copying eve.Chris and co are far too egotistical to copy Eve.
>Can't fucking rent ships at DefenseCon.I went to DefenseCon, rented the ships, hit the confirm button, and ran all the way back to the spaceport like three times before I gave up.
>>2465649And yet they're blowing everyone's money on creating a poor copy of Call of Duty:Infinite Warfare
>>2465651Are you sure its notStarkov Rustizen
>>2465663Actually you are right, they are developing>COD:IW with the money supposed to be used to develop>Starkov Rustizen
Wow, this patch is awful straight off the rip
>>2465785The first one always is
>>2465491EVE is fucking boring.
>>2465942100%.But the systems in place work well. Especially the economy systems which are all player driven.You need to build something? Put in an order for the materials.Someone else goes out and mines the materials and fills your order.It's delivered to you because someone has picked up the order and taken it to the station you're at.And it happens seamlessly.The fact I can't have someone deliver my shit from pyro to stanton after a decade of development is in itself a fucking travesty. Why can't I fill out a delivery request, someone picks up my shit at checkmate, flies it to orison and drops it off for me to use? If he loses it or steals it, he pays me whatever I've put as the insurance amount for the job.Why can't we do that yet?Why is it only the last patch a day ago that lets me scroll past 100 names in the fucking chat list?Why does this game not even have the most basic fucking tools in place yet after a fucking decade?
>>2466074>Someone else goes out and mines the materials and fills your order.And then they create gay universe-spanning cartels that hike up the prices dramatically, gatekeeping certain parts of the game with their thousands of alt accounts and bots.
>>2466093Sounds like you want to play a single player game. Maybe this isn't the game for you bro.
They canceled the free-fly
>>2466104Anon, I played EVE from 2006-2023. I eventually had to quit because I realized all the public access PVP events like FW were filled with chinese botters. If that's what you want the game to turn into then you can just play EvE instead.
>>2466093sc is harder to multibox. Hence we dont have gunners on all ships, if it was easy, id do it right now.The base idea of eve resource -> crafting is completely fine. Not everything should be copied from eve naturally.But copying ore quality from rust-style games (like last oasis) is really dumb.
Q: What about the Idris laser and current bugs?A: There were hit improvements but then also there was a bug with how some of the damage was passed on. An elegant solution is being worked on. These bugs are unfortunately also present in the Tiburon.
>>2466203Yeah I think this just isn't the game for you bro. Don't be upset. There are plenty of other games for people like you that get upset at player interaction.
>accept sociopaths cornering the market or leaveNo thanks
>>2466746Doors over there chud.
4.8 is running so bad it feels like a Vanduul took a big shit into the servers and then set it all on fire. And i cant even upgrade my rig because fps are mostly dependent on the server.
>>2466830not related but im a stranger to the vanduul fanaticism a lot of people have. They look boring, they are boring.Maybe I'll get excited about them if I ever play sq42? Is vanduul something from the old games or why is it such a big thing? Why are the aliens on SC so boring?
>>2466830Aside from contracts lagging I've had a good time in Nyx. Its probably because of everyone setting their homes in Stanton and visiting Arccorp, and overloading the servers for those areas.Given that a shard caps at 600 and Nyx/Pyro server pops are 20 at most, there's roughly 400-500 in Stanton. They'll be hitting 100 per server easily and thats never been playable even before server meshing.
>>2467013I was trying to figure out where to settle in, might go Nyx this time. Are there multiple stations yet?
>>2467023There are four service stations that you can choose as home. AFAIK no amenities at these except basic armor/guns shop.
>>2467023Remember to be careful with using Levski though, they haven't fixed ships disappearing out from under you in the hangars.
>>2467023Nyx service stations if you want to be close to all new content.Pyro if you want peace and quiet. Easily the least pvp and if there is pvp - law of the jungle.
>>2467023I would also mention that if you care about doing mining/crafting nonsense, Levski has all the best refinery bonuses. Makes it much easier when you can just drop everything at the same station instead of having to consolidate refined ores to whatever station you want to craft at
>leave hangar to go buy some basic gear after spawning in for the first time>return to spaceport after buying gear>lift refuses to take me to my hangar, just loops back around to the spaceport lobby>look at asop terminal>ironclad that was on the pad is now showing as unknown>costs more than I have to claim it with the paintAnd that's enough for me until they fix this pipe-cloggingly shit patch
>>2466926Kilrathi were way cooler desu.
>>2467205I lost polaris much the same way. 200k cause of paint, and remember - no ammo.
>>2467013A reminder Chris has said he wants 10k player cap lol.
>>2467262Your random cheapo indie games have more interesting races with all still being humanoid.
So tired of humanoid aliens desu
>>2467034>>2467067>>2467090>>2467149Thanks bros, I'm sold for this patch. Having everything in Nyx should make the Stanton Gate <> Nyx pirating loop easier.>>2467090I like Pyro, but between its size and the ironic peacefulness of it, I don't enjoy playing there much. Contested zones are nice on the stations and have lead to a few 11/10 pucker situations, but it's so hard to run into other players in organic situations I prefer StantonPyro has the best planet ost tracks in the game though:>Bloom Themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ologs0fddRA>Monox Themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzB_-yd3CKsBonus Unrelated Track:>Onyx Facility BGMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ASui_L2ikPedro is actually a decent composer. I like that he is actually making BGM-tier melodic music rather than all the ambience slop we've been getting in games lately. I wish they'd pick up Jeremy Soule to compliment him.
>>2467269Uhhhh... based department?
>>2467269Its a nice goal to aim for, it depends on how small a server-area can be under DSM. Even QDSM could get a cap over 1k if the areas are smaller than currently. He's also stated that if they can't do it then they'll move on without it.
>>2467205This is why I stopped logging in on x.x.0 patches:>I'm a star citizen>have cool pvp ship - light fighter>log onto arena commander to fight against other players in consequence-free environment>everyone uses macros to shake their target lead pip, making it impossible to hit them>ragequit and go to PU for pvp>Try hunting some player bounties down>spend an hour finding a bounty, but finally find one and engage>try to missile dump on them for lulz, but missiles don't appear to work anymore, can't lock on>engage with guns, fight is going good until enemy suddenly jerks and snaps, instant transmitting like Goku behind me, blasting me to smithereens with a few short volleys of apparently new meta build with weapons that didn't even work last patch.>respawn at nearby station, reclaim ship and wait for reclaim timer to end before respawning it>all hell is breaking loose at the station as I'm launching, so I join local ai forces to defend againt ai pirates>get crimestat for attacking hostile pirate ships, lose bounty>sigh>go to hack crimestat away at security database on Microtech, having to fight through AA turrets on the outside, and ai bots on the inside>Reach terminal, only to see that it has been disabled since last patch.>Now have level 5 crimestat from killing guards and trespassing on security database outpost>see "anon has left his ship's channel" indicating my ship just despawned>step outside of base to confirm this and get strafed by player bounty hunter that was tracking my bounty this whole time>wake up in jail with 11 hour sentence>decide to try mining in jail for the first time, to see how the merit system works (ore for reduced sentence)>have to kill self, in a fit of ennui, several times to get mining tool to work.>finally mine many crystals, but can't turn them in - the mining turn-in kiosk is bugged>server 30ks and crashes, when I log back in, all my mined crystals are gone>mfw ragequit and contemplate going outdoors
>>2467409I'm going to let you in on a secret.We will NEVER reach 10k player servers. NEVER.
>>2467420The game is ass. Everyone knows this. And everyone keeps on spending on jpegs.Because the game isn't important to spenders. It never was.What's important is saying you've got an idris and playing captain picard in your head.The actual real game is secondary to that.So they keep spending.The game keeps getting worse.
>>2467442>he thinks the game is even releasing
>>2467461tbf, they fixed most of the bugs from when this greentext was made, this was from an old patch, 3.x, I believe. Or at least I hope they did. I might just be avoiding ingame prison at this rate. Either way, I perfected a system of getting out and back to Hurston orbiting station in 15 minutes (you can spawn 100i at the nearby emergency shelter that is supposed to only spawn ground vehicles)
>>2467483>Or at least I hope they didThey didn't. You can still get a crime stat from that action. Your ship can despawn from anywhere. Bounties are broken as fuck. Killing guards nets you high crime stats that you cannot get rid of. You can only lower your crim stat at one place and it's often bugged to fuck. There are plenty of 24 hour jail sentences going around for high crime stats. 30k's were happening a lot last patch and you'll lose everything. Oh and missiles sometimes still don't work and won't lock.>they fixed itThat's the point. Nothing has been fixed as of the last patch and there's no indication any of that has been fixed in 4.8.
>>2467370Pyro is the real PvE area as I said earlier.I dislike the shitty fantasy mad max aesthetic. Nyx is better in looking like a place people actually live in.as for piracy, best thing is to look for whatever exploit or moneymaking scheme comes up and people swarm that. Gonna be a lot of traffic there.I'm sympathetic to pvp fags so I'll give a potential exploit to check out if you get bored.Places like QV stations and QVB stations exist in specific spots...so, say - if you were to drop ships there, - like pulse that is small and cheap.You could theoretically go check each one out to see if there are any friendly interactions to be had.
>>2467581Dropping pulses sounds like a good idea. What ship are you vulturing in? I usually switch between corsair or connie for solo opportunistic pirating since you can load loot and head out.
>>2467650Im a your regular pvevp. Call me a bob that figths back.I just see opportunities I don't take. Also my larp is to be totally neutral party.Ship I'd use depends completely on what im doing and how many people I have with me. Remember that Mantis eats up one guy if you want to do the traffic lanes.All the pvpfags fly fighters, last time I got fucked I was on 2 man polaris against 6 fighters and perseus. (pirates like perseus to open caps)Before that I was in 3 man polaris and we got away from similar gank by 360 noscope torpedo to the mantis trying to keep in range. Got away with 1 engine.A lot of polaris really, its just too fucking convenient. If it didnt exist or it wasnt a loaner for me maybe id fly corsair, its probably my favorite ship overall.
>>2467283Amplitude Studios are owned by SEGA.>>2467262But are they cooler than the Kzinti or KzinWho even owns the rights to Wing Commander.
>>2469029They are not owned, just published a few games.
Managed to play a session today, grinding intersec. A lot of bugs.
Been playing a few contracts in nyx. Server is a little laggy, but have completed all contracts so far. Pulling up to a service station to rearm and repair
>>2469846>>2469674Docking didnt work on service stations, saw a lot of ships parked on landing pads and had to do the same.
>>2469898I've had no problem using landing services for hangars, but I've never been able to use docking services successfully in Nyx. The docking port extends out, but never connects.
>>24675034.8 didn’t fix shit, it just broke more shit. Game runs worse and worse each patch. The raw server input output for the amount of players is fucked. They need all hands on deck to start at the beginning and fix the fundamental systems.
>>2470003Try restarting docking
I love this berd
>>2470367Do you use reshade or something?
>going to have to log in today>entire org is going to be a shit show>lost all my cool shit I spent weeks farming forthe player numbers must be fucked right now.
>>2470626Everyone wants to see the new shit and to get a leg up on everyone else by making money
The new claim system made it so that polaris with just paint and full ammo is 260k to reclaim.Considering torps used to be 500k, its nothing.Claims also seem to be instant.
>>2470626>>2471076Oh and forgot, ofc also to grind intersec to open the strike group mission.
Gib m80Do you guys think it'll be an interdiction heavy fighter? I'm grindan for a mantis, but would upgrade something to the m80 if it can outrun anything in dampened field
i am going to buy a perseus today, tiberon looks shiti am also going to buy a TAC in 2 days because the ironclad is dog shit
>>2471271You could combine your powers and get polaris.
Freefly cancelled
how easy is it to join this game as a complete noob and immediately kill ppl/blow ships up?
>>2471492Its not hard, slightly tedious.If you have someone show you the ropes its easy.The main difficulty of the game is knowing all the workarounds to varoius bugs.
>>2471492And most players are really bad, including most pvp players.
>>2471503can you board a ship, kill the owner and steal ship?
>>2471508Yeah.
>>2471508Equip lasers and distortion, use lasers to get rid of shields, then use distortion to disable their ship.Cutlass blue or mantis if you wanna keep them from leaving.Not sure how the emp works, could you use that.Also you can sneak up on people wheb they are stopped. Most people are super oblivious to danger.
Haven't heard anybody talk about this, but they're selling body kits for the Shiv on the pledge store.
>>2471810>warbond onlylmao
wew lawd, she's a keeper, lads
>>2471904>he boughtAbsolute retard.
>>2471904sucks how the guns stick out on ships, why not incorporate them a little bit to the structure.Oh wait, I know why.
>>2471953I upgraded an already useless warden, I sold out a long time ago
>>2472014The s5's can retract into the hull. Not sure if that offers anything though
>>2471904>2 S5>2 S4sounds a bit weak if there's no tankiness or speed/handling, no ?
>>2472092It's has very low HP. Very easy to kill.
>>2472275so yet again an overpriced turd, got it.
>>2472092>>2472275>>2472283It has a near 600 m/s afterburner scm making it almost as fast as the dedicated 325a interdiction fighter. I think there is a 30 m/s difference with the m80 being slower. This thing will make an excellent addition for group piracy play with a distortion/laser load out. Getting out of the ship is pretty quick too for transitioning to boarding. It kinda feels like a bigger Sabre with the weapon layout and repeaters
>>2472335>head canon fantasy wank postNo one gives a fuck.
>>2472348Whatever you say thirdie, everything I'm saying is from ingame experience. Looking forward to using the m80 with the bros, stealing your cargo, and sending you off bow legged and crying ingame
>>2470396Used reshade for trying to add a little bit of film grain then I changed gamma/contrast in game
>>2472412>fat ass old boomer acting like he's still on xbox in 2000Lmao grow up loser.
Im doing the duul solo, but if some anon wants to - I can take you with me.
>F7A Mk1 pitch bug is STILL happening after the supposed fix>Now you cant swap the weapons on its turretsWell done
>>2472418>1000000th thirdie melt down in /scg/Bro I love the m80. And there's nothing you can do or say that will make me not enjoy it. Cope, seethe, dialate
Since everything is getting pilot s5's now can we give the Redeeemer back its AD5Bs?
>>2472626Sorry there where 3 players in the game who played 23 hour per day and racked up a billion kills in AC PVE pirate swarm so no.
so what's the current equipment meta now, all medium armor or what?
>>2472714Lasers/neutrons from what I've heard
>>2472014>Oh wait, I know why.So you can use different guns?There should be less bespoke shit.
>>2471904Front half is a kruger ship, including the hidden guns (see wolf).Back half is origin, including the wheels.Interior is uninspired.Enjoy your double pips.
>>2471508Yes for about 30 seconds before the owner claims insurance on it
>>2473312Interior feels like a gay bar
>>2473332The interior is pretty shit, but at the end of the day it's a dedicated fighter, not a single chassis with multiple trims.
>>2472414Wat do you have them set to?
Protip for ironclad users: if you want to avoid the bug that prevents you from jumping to distant star systems, alt + f4 right as you enter the jump point. You will end up on the other side with all your cargo and/or missions.
>>2473205its too much work, easier to just glue them on.
>>2473935>glued on gunsThe ships have hardpoints for bolt on weapons. This has been the case for 95% of ships in this series of games (Star Citizen is 100% a spiritual Freelancer game).See picrel from Freelancer. It's the same
>>2473312I don't see much Origin in it at all, to be honest. There are a few recognizable details but in general it looks like a cross between Kruger and Aegis to me. (The engines in particular remind me of the Sabre variants.)It's sick though so I won't complain, at least not about the exterior.
>>2473994I see, it works on fighters sometimes (underwing pylons etc.), but on ships like corsair it looks akward.
>>2474023It looks a lot like cross between the 300 series and a m50. The cockpit is definitely m50. I think it fits the origin design decently.
>>2474033>but on ships like corsair it looks akward.Who gives a fuck. It's a Drake ship; it already looks awkward. Hard points are always going to be better than fixed weapons since allowing for more variety in loadouts without needing to change whole parts of the ship.
So now that IC / ICA are out, how much do you think the price increase for the Railen will be? So the IC standalone was about $450 (I think?) then the cargo got buffed, then release it is now $600.Railen got a cargo buff plus it's an alien ship. Do you think it's going to be around 400-450$?
>>2473879Can’t tell if pulling my leg or if that actually might work.
>>2474111It works.The downside is that it might throw you alllll the way across Pyro and leave you without any QT. But it does work.
For Ironclad owners, supposedly removing the jump drive and warp drive from the command module fixes QT and warp issues
>>2474127Some are saying that doesnt work, but I dont even want to bother checking myself in this disaster of a patch. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/ironclad-bugs-compilation
>>2474220I feel that man. It's best to just log on and chat about double-dogs at this rate. Servers are mega-fucked.
>>2472533>boomer 40 year old thinks the ship is the problemLooooooser!
>>2474411>>2472533Just to let you know you are both embarassing and cringe faggots, but the M80 is an objectively badly designed ship and the guy glazing it is a good bit more cringe and embarrassing.
>>2472014Because it was a 2xS5 ship like the Guardian but then the retards in charge of making ships had to add more powercreep as they always do.>inb4 muh marketingAnyone who believes there's some shadowy marketing cabal deciding ships stats is a retard, the current balancing team just suck.
>>2474663This. Shields and quantum drive exposed on the underside and not repairable. Mixed size guns. The worst manoeuvrability of all the heavy fighters and the lowest HP. It's a brick.
>>2474672The two size 4 weapons on the back do look like they added them on as an afterthought.
>>2474672Cig is barely keeping up to their burnrate, so the marketing can have an influence.For example they saw how much idris sells as finished ship vs. concept and suddenly kraken started development.Tiburon is the solo ship for people who cant afford idris...
>>2474672>Anyone who believes there's some shadowy marketing cabal deciding ships stats is a retardIt a way for whales and backers to keep glazing the shitty dev team and CR by deflecting the blame somewhere else.
>>2474706Exactly, 100%.John Crewe is a big problem and yet no one seems to care because everyone instead chooses to pretend "marketing" do anything other than run slightly misleading adverts.
>>2474717Why not both.
>>2466926The UEE is profoundly boring writing wise, I'm glad someone is trying to exterminate them.
>>2466926I like the wikelo alien lol
>>2474101Hull B got bumped up from $90 to $280 at 512scu, Railen is $225 at 640scu and the first multi-crew alien ship so lets say $350 due to capacity and then a $100 alien tax. So $450 to $500.
>>2474872It won't be that much. I'd say 250 to 275.
>>2474750Agreed. Im a drake fan and dislike uee so this drakecon was dangerous. Lucky i got ica loaner
>>2474872>>2475315It will also be best in class in some way, probably in convenience - to sell it. Might increase price
>>2475315It will 100% be more than $280 because the Hull-B is $280 and has about 20% less cargo space and both are external cargo grids. Then it also catches the alien tax which runs $50-$100. At the lowest I'd say $400 since the C2 is $400 and has 696SCU.Although if you're smart the price won't really matter since you'd have grabbed a Medical Terrapin > Railen CCU for $5
It's funny seeing people crying for M80 nerfs when they haven't actually used or fought one. Everybody I know who's actually competent with PvP and has tried it is somewhere between "it's pretty well balanced" and "it's dogshit."
rate my character(I'm looking for better looking armor and helmet)
>>2477156Troon/10
>>2477184show your boomer beard
Dunno but...boom and zoom space combat fucking sucks. Jousting will never not look retarded. Actually, space combat looks retarded overall.>High agility ship becomes a turret>Two ships orbiting each other and merge occasionally Zero g space combat was a fucking mistake
>>2477253real aircraft would just be nose to nosing each other all the time too if they had the same performance profile as our ships.
>>2477194>troon screeching
Whats the weapon meta on ships now? I heard ballistics?
>>2477253>Jousting will never not look retarded>Two ships orbiting each other and merge occasionallyJust git gud and stop accelerating constantly.
>>2477156Fucking ugly. Fucking tranny.>m80Lmao tranny ship for tranny loser.
>>2477006They're looking at the guns instead of the stats. The m80 flies like an A1 spirit.
>>2477006>>2478554For as sleek as it looks, it flies like an absolute brick. Still, it has an extremely high SCM afterburn speed, making it good as an interdiction ship chasing down fleeing bigger ships. It is probably also good in group combat, as long as you have some light fighters to keep it from getting fucked by other light fighters, like any other heavy fighter. Pilots WILL be shitting themselves in the m80 though, unless you can add a bucket.
The game is truly unplayable right now. Bugs are out the wazoo. Just qt'd into an asteroid. Should probably wait for 4.8.1
>>2478939This patch is such a moneygrab is insane.>Only good gameplay change is refueling missions.>Blackwing lair horseshit most the playerbase will never evern see.>Half the shit in the game somehow broken due to Command Module docking.>Weapons get randomly "rebalanced" in such a retarded way no one can even figure out what CIG was even attempting to do.>Add insurance costs while ships still blow up on the launchpad half the time.>Contracts broken.>Quantum Beacons broken.Oh, but we had to get the patch out. We couldn't possibly delay a sale a few days. That would be a disaster.
>>2479189Man, I'm trying to figure it out. When patches first launch, shit works, then it just degrades over time. I swear this shit is due to hosting on the cloud rather than a dedicated server location. I bet they get a dev environment with AWS, it has static host locations, low pop, and no active scaling going on.Then when this shit hits production, AWS scaling logic and disperse hosting based on available resources just fucks whatever spaghetti hard-coded magic number backend shit they got going on. If they had dedicated static servers, that shit would probably work, but since their latency and resource availability is unpredictable, we get the current state of the game.Just curious, anons, are any other complex games with high player numbers hosted on Azure/AWS? Planetside 2 seems more complex than this game from a high-player count, and that game was rock solid. Was Planetside 2 on dedicated server hardware?Alternatively, corner cutting in the industry has reached the absolute critical mass before imploding. Starting to think this is most likely the case given I work in the software industry.
>>2479229>Planetside 2 seems more complex than this game from a high-player count, and that game was rock solid.PS2 was a broken mess for the first two years of its release. Half of the guns were unusable due to graphical glitches or spraying like a blunderbuss. Vanu were a popular faction for vehicle users by simple virtue of the fact that their tanks were less likely to fall through the world.
>>2479249>only the first 2 yearsSounds like a fucking miracle
>>2478727It's surprisingly OK in a 1v1 as well. There's probably not much of a chance with equal skilled pilots, but I've seen a good pilot in an M80 shit all over a decent pilot in an Arrow in AC, not something I expected and not something you can really say for any other heavy.
>>2477963I'm not talking about actually doing combat itself but how it looks. For a game trying to be cinematic as possible and adding unnecessarily long animations to add for muh immersion, the combat looks like dog shit.
>>2477587Can you spoonfeed me please. Beats fighting over trivial shit.
>>2479367This is some major cope. No one is winning shit in a heavy fighter that's less manoeuvrable than the guardian and has hp values in the range of medium fighters.>size 5 guns>it's fast!Literally meaningless. The fact people buy ships without even flying them is why this game is such a shit heap.
>>2479543NDB's are meta.Shadowmoses group said that ballistics are meta but repeaters and gatlings get deflected by heavy fighters and up. Attritions are nerfed.4.8 combat wise is a million times worse than 4.7.
>>2479573I figured as much, I was just uncertain cause some guy in PU was saying "everyone" is using ballistics in pvp.But just as you said, i looked at stats and you are fucked with ball on paper.Nbds, how about s4 and up?
>>2479577If you can penetrate the armor shredders are the best. But a lot of the times you won't be able to in the wild. If you're just fighting other lights and mediums shredders are probably the best but in reality you're not going to be running them.Personally I think deadbolts are kind of good now. They have increased their projectile speed and lowered everything else. Last patch size 4 was the worst size to use and it was actually better to just put size 3 NDB's in your size 4 spots. This patch I don't know. Probably deadbolts. AD4B's are also very good but you have to hope you don't run into anything your alpha can't penetrate, connies, asgards, corsairs and anything larger.Size 5 is out of my range so you'll have to look at that yourself.But every weapon has had a projectile speed rebalance that feels completely schizophrenic.Avoid attritions. They've been made into low damage high projectile speed guns now. Wtf is that about.Also the projectile speed caps are way closer now. Size 4 max projectile speed is like 1440. It used to be like 2k. So bare that in mind.This whole patch is a skip for me.
>>2479598How about missiles, do you know if they can deplete armor at all.. do they even work... does anyone even care?
>>2479577Also regarding ballistics. The idea is you go through the shields and damage the hull right? But your ballistic projectiles that go through shields have their damage reduced, up to 25% depending on how many pips the target has in shields.Now that value is used to see if you are deflected or not. So often the benefit of ballistics being penetrating shields is completely negated since you'll often get straight deflected by the armor. You're also doing less damage to the shields because a portion of your damage is going to the hull. The lower the enemies shields are, the more damage is going through to the hull and not being absorbed by the shields.This is only with ballistics mind you.So sometimes you'll get an enemy down to like 10% shields, will be getting deflected by his hull, and doing like 1 damage a round to his shields.Obviously if you can pen with deadbolts through shields because of the high alpha it doesn't matter but repeaters and gatlings really suffer.Often you'd be better off with going energy and doing full shield damage to strip the shields down faster and hit the hull direct. Some pvp'ers swear by shredders though so I don't know. But I suspect they are mostly in light or medium fighter encounters.>>2479610Missiles are ass right now. There is a bug where sometimes they will not lock on. In addition CIG removed the ability for their explosions to damage components making them altogether useless at knock out strikes. The restock cost made it often better not to use them.This patch since the restock is significantly lower they're worthwhile as a damage close in. You send off as many as you can when you're getting into range then go to guns. They still do heft hull damage but you're eating through the hull without doing any damage to components so you've got to get them to 0 hp with missiles as a closer so I wouldn't even bother. Use them to soften up shields and go in that way.Oh and don't use anything except EM.
>>2479610And yes missiles effect armor. Armor is just an extra HP layer over your hull HP.
>>2479617>>2479630Thanks anon, the armor hp seems very small, or am i hallucinating. Feels like once you pen, you strip armor off really fast.Did they change component hp or does penetrations still knock out components super fast?
>>2479656Crafting changes component hp. But I think it's like 1000 quality means 20% hp increase. Armor stripping depends on what you're hitting it with. Obviously with ballistics since you're splitting damage between armor and shields you'll strip it slower but you'll be stripping it even through shields as long as you're not deflected.Every weapon has penetration so you can knock out components easily on nearly every ship if you aim right. Ballistics pen slightly deeper and energy slightly less but it won't matter unless you're fighting sub cap and up.At least they did in 4.7 I don't know about now.
Avoid Stanton, but if you must, choose contracts that DO NOT have "random site in space" and instead ONLY fixed surface locations or stations. There are cases where nothing spawns but it actually happens 10-20 minutes later, possibly a Stanton overpopulation thing but it happened once in Nyx too, could be a mission specific issue.May be changes regarding orbits cause it? After a client crash I saw the marker orbiting Stanton at roughly 0.1Gm per 2-3 seconds.If auto docking doesn't work the first time, don't be in Stanton, but also just try again. The auto snap-in area should be big; you should find out if its working very quickly. Starmap routing button becomes unclickable after a moment, but selecting planet/moon tends to fix it or you need to quickly hit route after setting.
>>2479229Anything from Krafton or Pearl Abyss uses Azure for backend, I can tell you that much. Also with Azure you can do IaaS and configure things to never scale until you want it to. Not familiar with AWS but I would think it has similar options. Running servers as PaaS seems like a recipe for disaster. Kubernetes clusters might work.
i cant even play, i keep getting error 5006 & 5008 and cant seem to fix it.
>>2479665R key seemed to work even as the ui crap itself on starmap.
I hope CIG enabling freefly is a clear sign to SC zealots that CIG is running out of money - they are in constant need of more.At least I hope all anons understand that its not a theory anymore, its reality.
Does anyone know how to travel to the ship graveyards inside of stars, presumably at the origin point of the game map? I want to try salvaging shit there. Alternatively, how would I get a ship to spawn in the middle of a star so I can QT to it?
>>2481259With a little research, it looks like you might get spawned in the sun if you log out in a high population area and relog. Will be testing this later with a reclaimer.
This is probably not a new workaround to any intelligent anon but I realized how i can get Nyx (home location) station to let me in the VL hangar with a ship that wants to dock. Eg. Polaris. I can call the station with another ship parked inside the ship I want to go in with and since it defaults home location hangar- I can drive right in with polaris.
>>2481698I think if you get near the hangar and deploy your landing gear then request docking, it'll give you a vl hangar if you have a big ship
>>2482192Ill try that, why not
>>2482254Let me know if it works for you.
Default Ironclad paint is the best paint for ironclad, yet its not a paint so cant have it for ironclad assault. Damn.
I know that the game is mostly populated by gamerdads but it's getting ridiculous. I keep being called a cheater when I shoot down any M80 because the dude can't aim for shit.
>>2483385Based. I'm the anon in thread who posted the m80 pic after upgrayyed-img a warden. It's as bad as any other heavy fighter when it comes to handling, but it can hawk down bigger ships much faster than the guardian, which is a huge plus, as that's what I was using last patch for interdiction.
>>2483394Bro, I only pilot a mustang delta. They're getting shit on bya toothpick.
>>2483406Damn thats not a half bad fighter.I've been wondering if all the mustangs are toothless since its one of the coolest looking- but thats genuinely pretty neat.
I was spot on with guessing Odin is 5k dollars.My half-assed concierge ticket did not get a reply so I'm guessing either I didn't make the cut or they are still working on them.
>go into defensecon expo>go up the stairs to the elevators>pause, look to my right to see a table with some pamphlets scattered all over the ground>front of the stand says "Escape Pods are for Cowards. CHANGE MY MIND">pamphlets are covered in what looks suspiciously like dried bloodWhy
>>2483816Most game studios are left leaning progressives. Right leaning and moderate developers are a (very) silent minority.I don't remember the pamphlets, but ill check them if i visit the expo. Take a screenshot next time.T. Game dev.
> Salvaged millions in NPC ship weapons from wrecks around investigation sites> Nobody is going to buy them for discounted rates compared to shops because there is no way to tell if its a player salved ship weapon or notFucking clown show developer.
>>2483798OH BOY HAHAHAnevermind!Called it - CIG IS THIRSTY FOR CASH!I did like nothing on my application.
>>2483911My literal application:"If I get myself an Odin - I pledge myself to create, operate and host a police force of rangers to deal with "criminals" to lesser extent and "griefers" to larger extent. To create our own content from it - and to help other players and show that all this time, there has always been the option for player policing.Naturally the Odin would be the flagship that would be the symbol for this and the whole push for player policing - but it could also sometimes prove useful in combat since some of the player to player negative interactions are done with capital ships.No other reason really, I'm more of a Drake guy myself im completely honest. Already have a Kraken."I already saw people mald in Spectrum about having to go through F5 war despite the pre-selection.
>>2483934the FML org has like 8 members for reference.
People posting their humiliation ritual essays makes this entire shit show worth it.
So are they giving away the odin for free or is this application to buy a $5000 jpg? I know the answer to this question already, but I'm going to entertain the possibility that CIG would let something like the odin slip out of their greedy little piggers for some kind of marketing ploy.
>>2483986yeah, it's a little pathetic, nglI have accrued quite a bit of store credit over the last decade, but never thought I'd see an actual fucking application process to buy a $5000 ship. Almost makes me want to sell to grey market to get out of the game.
>>2483911How much have you spent total on this already?
>>2483911>he's so desperate to give this shitshow 5k he wrote a fucking essay like he was in primary school to BEG for the opportunity to buy a jpeg
>>2483911>checkedBro, honestly delete this, you are gonna get screen capped (put me in the screen cap)
>levsky autodocking is broken againI'm done man. There's so much shit that needs to be fixed.
>>2484035>>2484039I have no intention of buying it, as I stated earlier dimwits.>>2484012I am one of the kraken guys. but its still way more than the game deserves and I do regret it a bit.>>2484109>>2482367The landing gear trick does not work.Docking ships need to take a ship with them to open home hangar, or any hangar. (only home is vl ofc)
Any chance in hell pic related is launching this year? I'm going to say no.
>>2484159No way. 0 chance.They are aiming to launch it after GTA6 so December...
>>2484035>>2484039Might have been earlier thread. I did an application to get rid of one odin from the world.CIG outplayed me by making it by accepting everyone and making it a F5 war.
>>2484169Your idea was retarded, you didn't get outplayed.
>>2484183I guess so, only that every single person thought it means accepted people get the right to buy without any kind of queye.
lol someone is super salty i got the fucking odin thing and they have spent 150k on the game.
>>2484225You are flusha
can someone explain refining construction materials to me:It took me about 2 play sessions to even realize you can't just sell the disintegrated construction materials boxes anymore, since it gives you construction salvage instead. I finally figured out you need to refine it. I had 100 SCU of construction salvage and used the recommended dinyx solvent bs. How many scu's should I be getting back?
>starlite can't complete half of the 2nd tier of refueling missions, because they require more than it can hold, and wont accept a 2nd docking request if you bring morebravo
Anything new than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWq8ynUq7wM as far as Chris actually playing the game? I think there was video at a convention demo of him getting pissed off when the game was crashing live. Anyway, pretty incredible this is the person these cultist refer to as having vision for the game.
>>2485078Forgot image, cutter rambler refuel takes 21 hydrogen, but you can only carry 20.Also I asked the station for 20 but only got 18 and didn't realize until I got here
>>2484159Zero.
>>2483911Seeing apps like this get accepted while I'm $20k plus spent and a college level essay not get accepted is infuriating.
>>2485641The substance of your letter never meant anything to the algorithm CIG threw all the apps in.
>>2485667We don't know what the selection criteria was.
>>2485706They google your surname and look up the early life section on wikipedia.
>>2485138there is a vid of him playing with his daughter.
>>2485641>>2485706They accept everyone.I made my application instantly when it opened and I spent about a minute making it.They are just going through the applications manually from the start to the end so it takes a while. Thats why they have the F5 war to get it - since the application part was just a useless fomo scam.CIG needs all the money it can get to stay on positive.
>>2485846Not true, I was not accepted.
>>2486219Having chat bans on record for saying the n word is probably the only disqualifier
>>2486219>>2486268If your ticket is still open and no email, you have not been rejected. They just work at office hours and approve them by hand.
>>2486307Wew, for a second i thought getting chat banned for calling a faggot a fag ruined my chances for a space yamato.
Why the fuck would you even buy the Odin? Nobody except streamers is ever going to be able to crew it, hell even a skeleton crew will probably be like 30-40 people.
>>2486338Lets be honest my nigga, every ship in the game can run fine with a pilot, 2 turret gunners and a nerd running around with a salvage/repair beam. If the turret on the BC is super special with may need 2-3 nerds to load and fire meaningfully but take the idris as an example, 80% of the volume is hallways and larp rooms like cafeterias and shit no one cares about. Anvil will do the same for the bc.
>>2486347Anything bigger than the Hammerhead is retarded.
Anything bigger than the Arrow is retarded.
>>2486338Id never buy it. I only ever applied for it as a test and as a joke.I love how it made people post developer leaks to spectrum.
>Man, it's been a while since I checked /scg/, how are they holding u->New ship for 5000 dollarinos but you can send a "Dear Santa" letter to buy it earlyJesus fucking Christ.
>>2486338It's the Star Citizen equivalent of raid gameplay. Assuming that NPC crew become real, you could delegate most things to trainable bots. Turrets, engineering etc. but nothing too fancy like fleet movements.
>>2487202Its pretty crazy, its even crazier how.many people in spectrum are talking about either getting or not getting invite.And its pretty nuts that the begging to buy meant nothing and they still go with the same old fomo method on top of this fomo method.
>>2487248>Assuming that NPC crew become realThe fan base probably is more likely to accomplish that with how incompetent CIG appears at this point. Should've just made a single-player/co-op universe rather than bet on tech that may or may not ever come to fruition.
>m80>tiburon>probably a handful of store credit left to allocate to something entirely auxiliary that i couldn't give less of a fuck aboutrip to my polaris and andromeda and gl*ive lmao fugly rsi pieces of shit and xeno trash we ballm80 is fucking retarded i could not have asked for a ship more entirely designed about my preferences and aesthetic sense
>>2487665Is tiburon really as bad as the rumors say. Laser doesnt work that i know, but i heard it has 1/3 HH hp, what are the turret guns?
>>2487674The laser for the Tiburon is the exact same under the hood as the Idris K and the Vanduul Mauler, so it does has the same bugs but its not completely broken. As for stats, its already in the game files so websites such as spviewer and erkul have all the info: https://www.spviewer.eu/performance?ship=aegs_tiburonIts remote turrets are 1 S7 ballistic cannon each.
might stomach making a taurus the third vessel if things align but it'll very much be the lame duck in the assembly cargo and industry of all forms are for cucks i can't stand that shit outside of tangential usage (wherein it's actually novel and tactile as opposed to a braindead slog)solo combat nigga for lyfecan't wait to try out the shonk in six hours here shit's gonna be cash
>>2487681They had an opportunity to reduce the crew requirement but didnt. CIG is clueless.Thanks for the info anyway anon.
>>2487697>They had an opportunity to reduce the crew requirement but didntthe only strictly manned turret on the tib is the one in the asshole for counter-fighter duty, everything else will be able to be bladed up ostensibly
>>2487690Most gameplay loops in the game are fine gameplay wise. Even the tedious ones.Its the dogshit econ team that doesnt scale rewards to effort, and Jared went on record defending their junior developer skills as intentional. As if a meaningful percentage of people will stomach the risk of bugs and pvp for the mediocre tedoum gameplay, regardless of rewards. Meanwhile the fastest, simplest most retarded shit or the latest content gives the best rewards by orders of magnitude.
>>2487700They said manned turrets can be bladed recently.But even then, i meant right now. Could have replaced 2-4 turrets with pdc for example.
>>2487704Eg. You get 200k for gillys 7, hammerhead doesnt spawn anymore.You get 340k for gilly 8, enemies activate in like 2 minutes, you can incap the polaris easy before they activate. In some ways the corsairs are tougher.Qv logisrics got massive nerf but you still get 1.4mil for mission and 160-320k for duul + 2x mil A components.Meanwhile, yes sure move those 200 scu of boxes by hand. Might even get like 200k
>>2487715Intersec rep grind that you have to do gives 90 and 140k for the fastest "kill a ship" missions per one.
>>2487708as best i'm aware in their chyna bar citizen it was let slip that ai blades are only going to be applicable for remote station operated turrets as opposed to those with seatsidk what the fuck for a final direction they'll come upon tho lmaotib has a whole lot going on in its pilot seat all that said, couldn't care less about missing out on the rest of its gunnery for the while
>>2487720Yeah i keep saying to those who zealously believe on ai turrets over better social tools that you can test npc turrets ingame right now or watch videos of others who did it. You can steal a vaughn hammerhead with fully crewed turrets that will attack any hostiles.
>>2487665Been thinking about melting my F8C and getting an M80 instead since the Hull B ccu makes it easy to get it for <$120 of store credit.
>>2487806The f8c is kinda shit man, but cig will pull a "gotcha" no matter what you do.
>>2487806>>2487938M80 is gonna be nerfed within 6 months, but i guess you can always melt it then.F8C is in a rough spot to be sure, they will buff it when SQ42 comes out but its 100% certainty going to be a different variant and F8C is only gonna get some minor stat boost.
>>2487938I love how corsair has gotten random nerfs and then returned back etc as long as ive owned it.Now its tanky af... CIG really dont have a plan.
it's time
oh fuck me i got to keep my andromeda as a side nigga lmao hell yeah
teehee
>>2488278>>2488278I think its breddy cool but aftrer some consideration I think ill stick with Perseus.can we rent tiburon this drakecon?
>>2488348you sure can rent it at the expo hall yesor at least it should be possible
>>2488195The corsair and the connie really are the best solo ships with capacity for crew. I liked the connie more than the corsair initially, but now the corsair is growing on me as the better ship. I was able to do the whole intersec mission set with one solo, so she's a keeper.
holy moly does the tib fuck like crazycan't put into words how happy i am to be free of the p*larisjust exquisite
Genuine question, is there people here putting more money into in and not using their credits ? Because everytime I see the clusterfuck that is their updates and the absolute audacity to ask 5000 bucks for a new ship I think surely nobody is supporting the game right ? Right ? You can tell me, I wont judge.
>>2488366Adding on, I will say the connie is better in it's landing versatility compared to the corsair, which seems like it is made more for space and landing pads planetside. The connie can gracefully land on rougher terrain whereas the corsair landing struts are laughable.
>>2488403If I put new money in, it's usually $14-50 every 3-4 months if something I like comes out and I want to check it out. Shit has added up over years and I can get pretty much anything I want now on store credit alone, but I slowly tailored everything to be LTI and don't do much upgrading anymore.You shouldn't buy anything in game if you're not interested in it though. For me, this was the dream game I used to talk about wanting to bros back in the ps3/360 days. Just being able to explore systems and land on planets is more than I could've ever asked for. Not to excuse cig for their shitbag practices.
>>2488403managed to cover a full fleet transition with only store creditthey will get $0.50 usd from me in a few months to buy back an rsi exploration suit with a token though, $12 in store credit remaining lmaoeffectively perfectly aligned
>>2488389enjoy it while it lasts, all new ships are always broken/op and then get nerfed to shit when they need to sell the next new ship
>>2488403The worst I do is spend $10-20 on paints on new ships every year. The actual ships I exchange with melted store credit.I remember browsing the Concierge section of Spectrum and seeing other whales showing off their rental properties. Truly a hive of scum and villainy.
holy shit does the shonk guzzle fuel in flighth2 gauge just getting eaten the fuck up at a blistering pace lmao
cool 55k to top the tank from a little beneath half empty mother fuck oh my god she's perfect
deep, inner contentment and bliss i tell youhoooooo fuck
i'm an aegis stan now wtf
>>2488538go attack a player and report back
all is forgiven cig <3
>$25k spent>Very active>5,000 posts on spectrum >Genuine essay, not AI slop or meme >No acceptance letterBetrayal never comes from an enemy
>>2488403The kraken perseus fleet in above pic is what ive pledged in 2024 and what i will pledge. There are some smaller pledges and melting going on, but i try to avoid giving cig more money. Mostly because i dont need it. But i do also know cig is running out of money, but i dont feel its my responsibility to purchase more.I did the odin thing as a joke and in a vain attempt to block someone else getting one. I personally think the game - even if cig wasnt so inept - does not need any bigger ships.>>2488500As i said, the odin discussion in concierge is fucking nuts.
>>2488671Lets see how the thing is done, knowing cig they will fuck it up and its a shareable link.You can have mine.
>>2488366As an official drake representative, in honor of defensecon - I must inform you that corsair is not really much of a multicrew ship. You can in theory replace the turretguns with ballistics but either way its just Drake's way of getting past solo-ship limitation laws.Now connie is an ugly tube, but therein lies its greatest asset. its a simple tube, easy to traverse and has pretty good access. (Corsair has better)
>>2488419Connie is easier to land, but you still do need to get enough space to get the cargo down. The entry points are slightly more iffy than corsair and the entry points are in worse positions.BOTH are top tier ships in cargo handling since both drop the cargo low enough on the ground to use tractorbeams effectively.Corsair has the great drake interior while Connies interior sucks unless you have phoenix. Its both that the ship is so old but also just RSI is the most boring interior.As a drake guy I can confidently say that drake ships are the best in each category of ship, buy drake now!
>>2488671Why the fuck did you spend 25k on this? Do you just like the dopamine hit of buying digital ships?
>>2488671I wonder what Spectrum poster you are.
>>2488671>>Genuine essay, not AI slop or meme This shitpost is so good, I want to believe it happened.
>>2488671Post the essay, my man.
>>2486338People said the exact same shit about the idris. Now look at us.
>wonder why the thread is so fast>it's literally one faggot spamming about spending money on the scam>same reddit spacing and everything
>>2489337Boo hoo nigga
>>2487806What's the Hull B CCU?
>>2488671They know you will buy and squeal good for them the next time they sell it for 7k like a good pay piggy. We know the support system has special tags for your pathetic whale ass.
>>2490471Concept ships go up in price when they're released so if you obtain a CCU to them before the price jump, you can essentially ride that price jump to another ship. For example I bought 3 Freelancer DUR > Hull B ccu's for $5 of store credit each since the freelancer is $135 and the Hull B was $140 at the time, I bought a upgrade token for the price difference at the time that would let me upgrade the freelancer to a Hull B no matter what the price ended up becoming since it's a ship-to-ship upgrade token. When the Hull B released it went from $140 > $280 so now I can redeem that $5 token to turn a $135 ship into a $280 ship which I can then upgrade into other more expensive ships.A future example of this happening is the Galaxy which is currently $380 and is releasing at IAE this year so people who want a Galaxy or a ship more expensive than a Galaxy are buying Valkyrie > Galaxy CCU's since there's currently only a $5 price difference between them. This way when it launches at IAE for $600+ they can knock $200-$250 off the price tag of it or a ship more expensive than it like the Tiburon.
Is the Prowler ccu coming to Defensecon? I'm prob going to go C2>Prowler>Clad>Clad Ass> Tibbie. Hopefully A2 shows up for ccu
>>2490807isn't alien week in june ?
>>2490226You're a fucking loser lmao. I can't imagine being over 30 and acting like you, faggot.
>>2490767>spent over a thousand dollars on a game that doesn't workHAHAHAHAHA!
>>2490830you got me, I spent $250 on gray market credits and turned it into $1800 worth of ships playing the CCU game over the past 10 years.
>>2490886>I NEVER SPENT A PENNY I GOT 1000 DOLLARS IN SHIPS BECAUSE... UH... CHRIS GAVE THEM TO ME!!!Hahahahaha! Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking ugly ass boomer troon. You spent ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS on this ass game HAHAHAHAHAHA!You should kill yourself.
>>2490807Alien week is in about 2 weeks which will feature a prowler CCU. Railen will have a massive price increase (+$200-$300) when it's launched on that week so hopefully you grabbed a Terrapin/Defender > Railen ccu as that might end up with more savings.
>scammed retard trying to get others scammedCrab mentality.
>add shark>single largest day of fundingthat easy !
>>2490908You are delusional if you see that being said anywhere in this thread. Perhaps you cant read or are dyslexic?
>>2490990It's most likely not the shark but the Javelin/Idris making up the bulk of the sales. I do think it's pretty funny though.
>>2491052>BUY THIS THE PRICE WILL GO UP! >BUY BUY BUY!>SPEND 300 DOLLARS ON A GAME THAT DOESNT WORK!>BUY!>Perhaps you can't read or ARE dyslexicHAHAHAHAHA!
>>2491074Sorry newfag but shit bait.I must say tho - the odin thing does provide for some entertainment.
>>2491059I saw a bunch of idris and javelin "I got it!" messages on concierge digging for>>2491099all of the juicy odin tears.
>>2491099Did your love letter tickle Chris's heart as much as it did Sandi for the Odin club, Mr concierge?
>>2491149My letter was: >>2483934It was probably just random. But I never said I was buying it - and I wont.Some say in spectrum they were preparing to buy 3, maybe the 150k spender.
>>2491099>omg look at these retards spending so much on a video game lmao couldn't be me!>*spends 1000 dollars on the same broken video game*This is irony on the level of a greek play.
>>2491154I've spent more money on gacha games and shit like lost ark and im not proud of it nor am i proud of spending in this game. Im the guy asking if there is still a way to sell my account.
managed to solo the reclusive polaris bountyzamn
>>2491170Which one is that, thought there is only polaris in Gilly 8?
>>2491176~400k payout and you need to eliminate two whole waves before the third spawns in with the bossu embedded
>>2491181Why do it? Gillys is just 1 polaris and escorts for 320k, 7 is 4 fighters for 240k
>>2491170is the beam reliable to you? for me it does no damage if the enemy ship is moving
>>2491170>>2491195same bugs as idris, same laser. Its complicated bug but ends up not dealing damage to hull.
>>2491195it's inconsistent, sometimes highly so given whatever hull in question but can generally be worked around>>2491194shits and giggles and BH rep
>>2491218fair enough. was thinking its intersec rep or something
>>2490828>has money>"he must be an oldfag 100%" lmao, poors
>>2490892How poor are you that $1,000 is a lot to you? Are you black?
>>2491158For lost ark or Star Citizen? What does your account have and what price were you looking for?
>>24911947 is supposed to have a hammerhead spawn, some people don't like exploiting bugs.
>>2491796LA is bound to steam so probably cant sell that. SC we've discussed here before. I'm still on the fence its just good to know I might recoop something from this shitshow.>>2491800Fair enough.
>>2491158>I'm an addict and retard and spend vast sums of money on slop games that actively scam and abuse me>IM NOT PROUD OF IT
>>2491857Stop acting like you haven't transgressed.
>>2491857Yes, and? Are you some insecure faggot that cant live with faults on your person?
>>2491861>>2491862>NOOO YOU CANT CALL ME RETARDED FOR GETTING SCAMMED!!! NOOOO!! I SPEND MONEY! IM BASED!!!!Why does it suddenly smell like an old peoples home... Oh yeah you're old fucking gambling addicts! LMAO!
>>2491867You should just stop if this is your best material.
>>2491873>HOW DARE YOU! IM NOT OLD! IM ONLY 40!!!!Pfft! It's crazy how you scammed old men try to drag others down with you.
>>2491788>chektIn my vast internet travels, people who make fun of other people for having money fall into 3 categories: brazilians, indians, leftard males (never female). You should always call them out for the thirdies they are. Leftards included (thirdies of the mind).You should try talking to a brazilians about having a steam deck sometime. Note: They don't sell decks in brazil and it always turns into sour grapes gay shit. Kinda like this thread.
>>2491867Shut up thirdie. Having disposable income is something you apparently are incapable of understanding. Go back to you mud hut/favela. You've accidentally found your way into civilized conversation.
>>2491878Morozov is neat armor, one of the better ones if not a bit low tech.I wonder wtf is cig doing with defiance tactical, you could buy it in GH but now you cant buy even the sand colored one - its just on some bad guys as piecemeal and thats it. I wonder if there is bp for it.
>>2491889>laughing at drug addicts who spend money isn't ok>THEY CAN AFFORD IT OKAY!?Hahahaha! I love it. You're so braindead and unaware how pathetic you look to the majority of people.Tell anyone on the street you spent thousands on a literal jpg of a space ship for a game that's been in development for 14 years that doesn't work and see how they fucking look at you.Millennials really are the dumbest fucking people lmao.
>>2491893Poor zoomie doesnt have job.
>>2491901>has a job>gets money>spends it on a jpgPFFT you're literally an NFT fag hahaha!
>>2491891That helmet is from the loot rooms in the Vanduul Tech Smugglers mission. It's the Morozov-SH-S Helmet Vesper. I miss that helmet like you wouldn't believe.
>>2491910Looks almost exactly like morozov redshift from Area18 shop.
>>2491913The redshift is a variant. Those are my favorite helmet designs in the game right now. There are other cool helmets, but it seems like a bunch of the helmets are just stupid looking right now like the dumb player-made shit they put in planetside 2. Don't even get me started on marvel capes.
>>2491922Well the viking armor is just dumb. The sand one from hurston is - fine as is the concierge/hurston sec one.My chosen colors are black and gold but thats a very expensive taste to have in SC, and not the best looking one. There are some of these paypig armors and the executive ones that are pretty hard to find.
>>2491910>>2491960I used to rock concierge+random parts with headhunters helmet. The skull is kinda edgy but its one of the better looking black and gold armor pieces so I rolled with it.
>>2491975This fatsuit variant looked arguably better than the paypig one.
>>2491982I once saw someone with this, I didn't know there was executive versions of the new armors, but this would have some pretty nice pieces.
>>2491986that's a w*kelo antium set as best i'm awareantium is a fucking awesome looking set of armour though, crossing my fingers i'll be able to find some red-toned legs for it at an onyx site sooner rather than later
also, patiently waiting for a concierge heavy suit to be given outwith any luck it'll be a quirinus one too so antium or palatino would be the picks for its basis might be a pie in the sky hope but i'll keep demanding it in the comment field of every wide-focused survey they provide
How is running vanduul tech smugglers this patch? What's other loot missions are good to run for gear?
>>2492583Contested zones in Pyro are always good for scorched gear.
I just finished my CCU chain to the Reclaimer using the TAC daily warbond from the other day.Rate my fleet.I buy based on desire. I daily the Crucibles Connie loaner... but when in the mood- I aura farm around stations and landing zones with the Reclaimer.I like the Idris more than all the other capitals we've seen and I wish I could get my hands on it just to aura farm around stations and cities- But I've told myself not to spend any more money on this game for like at least a couple years now.
>Ship wont dock to my Starfarer's boom for refueling>get out to see what the issue is
>>2493004nigga you need an m80
>>2493368You should have boarded and made sure he was ok. It's not like he was possessed by a space demon.
>>2493004you need a fucking m80 so goddamn bad it's astonishingwhat are you doinga fucking reclaimer and a cruciblebro i get if you have a draw towards industry stuff but combat is far and away and assuredly will remain the most tactile and engaging activity in this game even on a pve frontand the m80 is the premier ship at this time for engaging in the all of it with some degree of serious impunity and capacity melt that anvil thing and get on board the interceptor train frjust my three centsit is such an amazing ship and qualifies as a deluxe starter in my eyes
>>2493004>>2493449You fail to understand space chud, big money making ship can make money to buy all other ships. Reclaimer bro is on a higher level than skywalker chuds
Industry/Cargo prints. Buy what you want using Industry Cargo Pledge Ship.
>>2493492i had a religious experience once in vanilla elite broke as fuck in a viper mk.3 after having spent my last credits, maybe even over the point of a rebuy i don't remember, on spiffy new beam lasers with which to continue eeking out bounties in asteroid belts, during the course of simply supercruising to get back into it. peak flow state. earnestly transcendental and resoundingly spiritual. utterly shattering. never was anything of the sort stumbled upon again and i sit to this day in the wake of it, changed.point being, accumulation is a meme. currency and accrual is entirely secondary to playing the game in and of itself and developing fluency with its gnarliest and most engrossing systems. in a space sim this is uniformly combat and the prospect thereof. anaconda, federal corvette, fer-de-lance, imperial cutter. none were remotely as fun or situated to walk the glorious tight rope as a lowly viper.striving is the only meaningful activity. to come to greater fluency and capacity in the course of striving is the only meaningful goal. combat is the only meaningful gamut of play in which one can earnestly and properly strive.the journey is the destination. there is no other.
>>2493552Sounds like a slave morality. Only poors or misguided "strive" for combat. Go die somewhere for some stupid cause. Hell I will pay you to escort my cargo, chump.
>>2493569lti short-circuits the matter entirely in ensuring that no monetary concern need ever taint the simple drive and want to play'tis thee that are enslaved to notions of accumulation beyond intimately personal development of capacity, acumen and skill
>>2493004Reclaimer is buffed again, super tanky.If i could have one ship it would be reclaimer. Yet i dont own it. Guess its my ingame goal every wipe.
>>2493552Firstly I think I was being autistic and overthinking regarding the industry ships for money making- although the Reclaimer has massive aura. The Crucible designer isn't really part of CIG anymore I think and desu I just know it's going to change a lot once it does come out- I can't rely on CIG to make it cool with a new team.Secondly you have sold me on being aspirational. Make money- only to buy a combat ship later? the best multiplayer and social events will be combat oriented. This definitely is a combat game first, not sure how I got so lost. The Nautilus was fully aesthetically concepted by one guy and his vision will likely remain at least aesthetically for when it launches in-game.I was able to melt my Crucible and use the credits to exactly reach the Nautilus with 10USD left over- I'll use that for a cheap Crusible CCU on Anvil day. Tomorrow I will complete the Nautilus chain once I can get my hands on an M2 Herc upgrade.Thanks for sharing your wisdom. New fleet attached.
>>2493707a fucking nautilus holy shit i kneel, that's quite out of left field
I haven't given cig money in a long time, although I do want the odin but I'm not in their gay club
>>2493699Do you play the CCU game ? I got the Nautilus like 200USD off in total. My account has just over 500usd spent since 2017.>>2493719I tell myself that this is it. no more spending. Endgame.>>2493401>>2493449btw the m80 looks good outside but the interior is kinda RGB gamer aesthetics and a bit lame. It only half looks like an origin ship. The OG designers probably left CIG.
>>2493803>kinda RGB gamer aestheticsfrankly i find it full blown e-girl twitch streamer rainbow LED bedroom-core but it doesn't faze me in the slightest and i really do wonder what other angle would be more appropriate for an origin ship in the brand's first real foray into an actual combat vessel. they know no different or better by my measure. it's garish but the interior as a whole is pretty damn functional and well-appointed for what it needs to do in the way of housing a little bed and all of the absolutely crucial systems required to keep things running at the barest baseline, all immediately accessible
>>2493803the nautilus is one sexy ship, but it also seems completely fucking useless and way too big for its role
>>2493780Similar story here. I've let my $10 sub run way longer than I should have but other than that I haven't given them anything in ages. I'm like $60 short of the $5k concierge level and when I hit that I'll probably kill the sub. >>2493803>>2493871fwiw it seems to default to the middle lighting setting, and if you use the switch to turn it to the full brightness setting it's significantly less disgusting. Still pretty bad though.
Fucking crash to desktop with no way to recover after hotfix.. it might be unironically over till next patch.
>>2488880>>2488419>>2488366what about compared to the shiv
>>2493999shiv is stronk as fuck but categorically a lower octave of vessel in overall scope and capability than either the corsair or cumstellatethe latter two are outright multifaceted hero ships comparable to the cobra mk.iii in what they amount to in the setting and in play
>>2493999The shiv is a side-graded cutlass black, which is a ship size down from the corsair. Shiv/cutlass is a heavy fighter vs corsair being a much bigger ship. The shiv is more manueverable, but the corsair makes up for it with heavier firepower, armor, more components, more cargo, s3 shield etc. Just don't expect to go pvp'ing in it solo.
Servers might be fucked, game is feeling unplayable after hotfix
>>2494041
>>2494041is it normal for this game to always lag when you activate your character ui shit?
>>2494021How about the Asgard? I see a lot of people who use it as their Connie-sized ship.
I've stopped playing a while ago. How's the 'deemer ? I loved that stupid space helicopter, is she safe ?
>>2494490Dont tell him chat...
>>2494462Yes>>2494482Asdguard is more like a cargo ship compared to ships that anon mentioned. Low firepower, speed, handling and survivability. Looks cool.>>2494490Was nerfed a while back. Havent seen one ingame for a year or so.
>>2494492>>2494499:( but why ?? To sell a ship with the prenerf config again ?
>>2494492I wont tell about the turret size reduction or that the multiple shields got nerfed.
>>2494503https://starcitizen.tools/Paladin
>>2494508Fucking knew it. I am guessing however that nothing got fixed since I played years ago ?
>>2494503Cig hates redeemer so much its unreal.But to be fair they nerfed corsair for some sale ship too but unmade the berf and now corsair got the armor buff and is pretty tough.
>>2494513This most recent patch has been one of the most broken patches released since 3.18, but they dont have the excuse of introducing massive backend technical changes fucking it all up this time.
>>2494513Depends on what you mean.But if you consider that QT bugs from 3.22, inventory bugs from 3.22 and interaction bugs from 3.22 all are still there...
Aww man and the Paladin is fugly too
>>2494524Im not a fan of paladin but it has stairs which is always good and its one of the only reasonably sized ship for reasonable amount of crew and every crewmember can contribute meaningfully.
>>2494529Now thinking about it its an interesting line of ships that are actually almost entirely pragmatic; hurricane, scorpius, redeemer, paladin, perseus. Am i forgetting something? Seems like love or hate them, they are gameplay wise the most pragmatic ones. Dwarfed perhaps only by the "base" ships; Carrack, Tac, Polaris, Idris..
>>2494529yea but space copter is cooler
>>2494538It is. I joined the game 3.22 and i must say that while there are some cool new ships too, the most inspired designs happened before my time. Eg. Reclaimer and Redeemer.
>>2494490It's ok, got an agility buff at some point in the past year or so which makes it pretty disgusting against fighters if fully manned and they fixed S2 shield generators so you can actually use all of them but multi-crew ships are still practically speaking a waste outside of FUN with friends as having more ships is just outright better.
>>2494625I'm fine with using ships that are mediocre I use the hawk a lot after all.
>>2494625They didnt fix multiple shields afaik or then i just never heard of the fix. Recharge time is longer but shield amount is the same, redundant shields dont just pop up after you lose the old shield etc.Or did they fix all that and i missed it?
Crazy reading someone complain in spectrum how weak perseus is, especially comparing to hammerhead variants.Nigger please perseus is the strongest multicrew right now and this is likely the moment in time when perseus is strongest it will ever be.
>>2494482If I remember correctly the asgard's main function is being able to transport heavy ground vehicles. Going off memory it has smaller shields and less armor than connie/corsair, which hands down are the best solo ships in the game.The budget option for connie/corsair is the constellation Taurus. It has all the concessions you want for solo play, and has the largest cargo since its technically a cargo ship. The Connie and corsair are really close in functionality and stats. Both are able to solo some pretty nasty pve encounters and bring home the loot afterwards. Honestly, the Taurus is significantly better than the corsair when it comes to cargo capacity for loot for missions like vanduul tech smugglers. It has 174 scu cargo space as corsairs 72 scu. Vts mission gives you a lot of ship components and the frozen vanduul pods, which both take a lot of space.
>>2494663It's been fixed so that you're no longer penalized for having "unpowered" shield pips, so you should always have all 6 shield generators equipped because each one gives you an extra 10k shields with the only "penalty" being that it technically takes you longer to reach max shields because it has more shields to fill. The issue beforehand was that it was reading that you had 5/20 pips powered so it gave you a 75% recharge penalty, now it's fixed so you no longer get that massive penalty.
>>2494871Since we're on the subjet, is the hawk still underpowered?
>>2494944The hawk's king component is the fast charging EMP. I think an all laser shield-stripping loadout could really fuck some shit up. You can get it pretty stealthy with the right components as well so that you can swoop down like a hawk, hit your target, and fuck em up. This info is from last patch though, so who knows if it applies now.
>>2494810They still fit ez and the mission is bugged anyway.Taurus is the weakest of the connies hp wise.
perseus ert lmaothe cluster had a hammerhead appended as well and i got my plants knocked out as i continued to skirmish after completionrepaired them and made it back alrightberry cool
$wag
>>2495210If the skull was a little bit more golden like the concept, i would have had to get it. Lucky that its not.
If I get the Odin I'll get that fancy black and gold F8 heavy fighter..!and no I don't give a shit, I am a fucking NEET that gets 2100 USD every month for being a registered retard and I got nothing else to burn other people's money on at this time, besides one of us has to make it so xenophobic racists has the biggest baddest ship to blast all the dickless eunuch "anti-racist" freaks out of existence.
>>2495496four instances of duplicate hulls nigga what the fuck are you smoking lmao3/10 and that's being much too generous
>>2494810Depends on what he's looking for I guess. With an M80 and the Tiburon it seems like cargo capability would probably be more of a priority than firepower since he's really lacking that in his lineup, and the Asgard is a pretty solid medium hauler without going all the way to a pure cargo ship that's hopeless in combat or whatever. I guess another thing to consider if that's the case would be the Hermes, which isn't much more than a Taurus and is supposedly an incredible hauler, but sadly it's not available this sale. (Had it been I'd probably turn my RAFT into one and my Asgard into something else.)
How do npcs decide to - for example - use the turrets?I wonder if anyone has ever tried to drag some of the "friendly" npcs knocked out to ship turrets and revived them - would they use them?
>>2495908It use to be like this, not sure if it still is: If you board a ship crewed by npcs, you can take out the pilot and steal the ship, then anyone who attacks you will cause the npc's in turrets to shoot at them. This used to be the case with the starfarer rescue missions. You're supposed to be defending them, but you could roll up, EVA in through the catwalk backdoor, and then take out the pilot and fly off with all turrets manned. Some people say it's the same for NPC Hammerheads.
>>2496007I know, you can do it on vaughn HH.But im interested if we could make the npc "use" the turret chair like how they use minigun turrets.
>>2488403I stopped after I reached 1k in 2020, now I just ball in credits and my fleet is just Aurora and Perseus. I am playing CCU game though, I might stretch my credits into a Galaxy if Railen and others go up. But if not, it's whatever.
>>2488403CIG has long since demonstrated that increasing the level of funding they have to work with will not increase quality of pace of development. In fact, scaling up the amount of income given to CIG has only resulted in a reduction of the game's planned scope and scale. I think anons would be better served wasting their money on sports gambling than they would giving it to CIG. Only $300 in, haven't spent a single red cent since 2021.
>>2493969>Next patch>instancing, possibly dynamic server meshingNot a chance of it being playable in sight, looking forward to it though
>>2496437anon, dynamic server meshing does not and will not exist until we have operational quantum computing at the networking and personal computing levels reach widespread adoption. This is not happning in my own or my kid's lifetime.
>>2496465You said the same for static server meshingTo be clear, it's a T1 where zones still can't change but adds the ability for a single server can run multiple zones, and for it to run more or less zones based on load while playing.Instancing requires new zones to be created while playing, these instanced zones should share a server based on load. Hence at least some partial functionality to assign servers to zones is needed here.Instancing aside, CIG claims this is in testing internally per march report.
I keep finding same 2 player corpses in different QVLs on differend days. Grinding hard I guess
>>2495496Is this an American thing ?I get 400 GBP a month for my ADHD (doesn't exist) LOL- but It will probably stop soon.Also if you are in EU do you have an org? I'd happily join and man your ships.>>2496421what's your fleet like with 300USD ? It's possible to own a reclaimer if that's mostly warbond CCUs>>2496574I believe server meshing will come- they can't just lie about everything- it would even cause internal morale issues.
>>2496680NTA but I have one eu org>>2488348My fleet - Note I have combat ships since the friend who originally got me to SC seemed to be Industrial player and complained about pvp so I thought ill make sure I can protect industrial players. Naturally he doesnt really play anymore nor industrial.
I am going to begrudgingly try playing again, tonight, lads.
>>2497134Good luck.
>>2490807
fucking CIG.autodock is now automatic and triggered when the tube is still extendingalso found out you can dock - if you are at the correct spot when it starts extending - it will autodock
>>2497134>>2497171Reporting back, I lived a peaceful crimestat free life in game, but somehow got a level 3 crimestat while trying to refuel on pads at a service station in Nyx (after successfully docking, but blacking out anytime I was in pilot seat(even though ship was stationary), thus being unable to do anything other than hold y to get out of the pilot seat or finally hit alt + n to undock, which fixed the black out glitch). Needless to say, I am now in Klescher after evading bounty hunters and getting onto levski to attempt to pay fines. The guards fucked me. Where the fuck are the fine terminals on levski? Also, lawful bounty hunters, if you're in this thread, I am going to fuck you when I get my pirate crew assembled after I'm done acquiring my prerequisite vehicles and gear.
>>2497425Docking is broken as fuck, but if you are having issues docking, hit alt + n to initiate a new dock until you are able to successfully dock. Careful though, the Ironclad command module docking bugs are present with any docking, period. I successfully docked in a reclaimer, but if I was in the pilot seat while it was docked, I would black out and be unable to do anything other than exit the seat or hit alt + n to undock.
potentially never having to deal with a fucking docking collar ever again feels so good bros
boggles me that the LEO stations and quite a few others aren't outfit with XL pads not being able to land one's fucking ship properly at what are absolute primary hubs is unbearable and hardly offset with external freight elevators
oh and god forbid one is capable of setting down at a large pad but gets directed to a docking collar instead simply because your vessel possesses one of its ownfucking hammerhead piece of shit thank fuck for the shonk, the thing is absolutely idyllic even now
i feel like they make retarded ships, why do we ships need two pathways to get around it feels like they do this shit just waste space and not give you storage space.
fat Guardian looks so nice
>>2497688Never got it to work that way, but similar way - initiate docking, find the spot, undock, move away directly by strafing, initiate docking, strafe back in while still extending.In fact im pretty sure if you know the correct spot, you can just initiate dockingSeems like its 2 bugs, autodock initiates only when the tube is extending and it looks like the autodocking area might be in the wrong spot
>>2499151As per usual, CIG doesn't test even 1 single time.
>>2497682Levski crime puuters sre probably in admin near commodity trading
>make defensecon your biggest sale period of the year>fail to get all the bugs out, break more shit than you tried to fixDamn broAlso don't go to Monox, the texture of the entire planet is fucked.
>>2499501In an ideal world this would be a wake-up call and CIG would stop forcing patches out to align with sales events.In realisty CIG will go completely radio silent, not acknowledge anything, and continue running the game into the ground until it's well and truly starkov rustizen mixed with the worst parts of 2010 MMORPGs.
>>2499509Wake up call for what? If anything this will just solidify the fact that they know they can get away with it because space dads have no self control. They absolutely know what they are doing because you people allow it.
Did TSG, was much easier than I expected.
>>2500932+ 1 fighter in polaris+ 3 fighters coming
>>2499151At least 2 ships (Cutter and prowler) have their refueling port inside their model, so they can't really autodock to the boom without you smacking them with it until it randomly latches.Would not shock me in the point is misplaced on the IC too
>>2501181Me and some of the lads also had our first go at TSG yesterday, was quite fun. I had no idea the distance I needed to stay away from the lasers, and almost got the Idris killed (the laser was invisible).
>>2501555Our npc idris flew against the asteroid and embedded itself there, keeping it safe. No clue if it would have been harder with the idris not stuck.As it were, could have probably done the mission with less people. We had some guy who had done it alot before and had a trench run hornet setup. He joined late (we already did trench run) but said he has soloed the trenchrun and the interior run before.Also the loot in the base lootroom and the hangar was not great.
Welp, I guess I won't be getting that odin jpeg after all, still haven't received a mail or anything even though it's been almost a month since I sent my shitty A.I. generated spiel in, meanwhile others that straight up wrote they didn't want to buy one has gotten a slot.
>>2501555Also, I reckoned the npc idris will not fly to the laser, so i went to it. When it embedded itself on the asteroid - I could just leave the polaris there and go do the ground combat on hull-a.
>>2501181>much easier than expectedmy brother in christ that is like 2 and a half grands worth of ships
>>25035491 perseus and 1 trenchrun fighter could probably do the whole thing if the idris gets stuck like it did for us.As for auec ships - maybe like 3 corsairs and a trenchrunner fighter? maybe less?I have no clue how bad it can get for the idris but I think the only real threat to the idris are the npc perseus.
How do corvettes work? Aside from the hammerhead thats designed to shoot small shit (supposedly) what are the general use cases for the polaris, perseus and tyburon? I mean practical shit that they can do with some efficiency. Im ignorant about caps.
>>2503946Tiburon is for dealing with capital class ships like the Polaris and Idris thanks to all its forward facing firepower. Prior to 4.8, the only way you could really deal with one cunt in an Idris was with 2 others.Perseus excels at dealing with other corvettes and smaller to an extent. Polaris is the smallest capital ship in the game, not really a corvette, so it has capital class components and hull hp. Its existence was to use its interior design mistakes to make the Perseus much better during development and make Polaris owners languish over what could have been...
>>2503977The idea CIG sold:>Hammerhead - good against fightersTiburon - good against corvettes (and larger)>Perseus - good against corvettes (and larger)>Polaris - good against capital ships (and smaller)>Idris - good against capital shipsThe reality as of now:>Hammerhead - good against nothing>Tiburon - good against corvettes and large ships (when laser works)>Perseus - good against everything it can hit, so medium and up. Best capital killer.>Polaris - good against medium, large, corvette. Torpedoes have not worked since shotgunning was removed.>Idris - good against medium and up.Notable is that all these ships are immune to most fighter weapons in current "balance"
>>2504041Ill add that if you arm hammerhead with deadbolts and have a full crew, its pretty deadly ship to medium and up. But 6 people on hh is worse than 3 man perseus, tiburon, polaris, idris...
got one for credit, holy fuck the adrenalin is unreal
>>2504102>tfw sitting over here with a kraken thinking 'alright that's a bit much'
>>2496574Anon., static server meshing has been in MMOs for over 20 years. Dynamic server meshing is not possible Please be reasonable, you stupid fuck.
>>2504126It looks so fucking dumb and is sold as obvious fucking bait.Remember that shitty lazer we sold tiburon with? this thing as multiple!
>>2504147NTA but id argue dynamic server meshing is possible technically.But will instantly bankrupt CIG if ever implemented. The cost for AWS scaling can jump to millions in seconds.
Instantly gone btw.But damn I kinda like this paint.
>>2504102Congrats anon, can you melt it?
>all the guns are bespokewell well well
>>2504167>red on top>grey on the bottomAre you fucking serious CIG
>>2504193one has red bottom
>>2504201That's more like it.Can't wait to see one of these things camped over every interesting location in the game being an invincible fucking nuisance.
>>2504210Crewed by a single bob.Luckily that wont be for years to come if ever.
What are the smallests ships that can can genuinely pose a threat to a perseus? At least be able to cripple it. Can an eclipse, harbinger or comet break some shit or is it too hard?
>>2504224Anything with size 5 weapons.
>>2504226S4 Deadbolts are enough.Not sure if they penetrate enough but Perseus has a significant weakspot in picrel area
I actually cannot believe that CIG wouldn't just 'secretly' spam odins if only for the sake of letting every retard that wants to buy one get one.Although it is retarded how CLEARLY they did not give a shit what people sent in and simply just picked people at complete random.https://fixupx.com/chonkrider/status/2057790674112839698?s=20One fucker even just writes he is not getting one and they still fucking gave him a slot!
>>2504240They will eventually sell it to everyone, they just wanted to fomo the fuck out of this one.fomo application, fomo f5 purchase.Rumor said the next waves are 4.9 already.CIG milking fucking hard to stay out of bankrupcy.
>>2504240They said they added people based on play time, so if you have like 1000+ hours on their internal metrics and met the concierge requirements you got in no matter what as long as you sent a request.
one billy boys we fucking did it
>odin's got an s12 helm-governed spinal gun on its bellythe ride never ends!
>>2504280
>>2503131Be honest, do you have a chat ban on record? I do and it’s the only reason I can imagine I was denied. Legatus with 5,000+ hours in the game. Ticket still shows open.
>half of the ship is a bunker with a freight elevator masquerading as a hangarFunny shit
>>2504312Oh I've definitely been banned once or twice I've bothered to touch spectrum.
>>2504315yeah it's retarded how fucking huge the hangar is on a battlecruiser, I mean it'd make sense if it was just a smaller hangar like on th javelin but this is like a fucking aircraft carrier or some shit.
>>2504327The Bengal is supposed carry 104 fighters/bombers, so that thing is going to need to grow in length too.
>>2504315>>2504327thing would be a pretty constrained and massive piece of shit if it didn't have the means to deploy support craft and at reasonable scale in my eyes tbdesui actually correctly predicted the ass-plate being the housing for a sizable hangar so please feel free to suck my toes if u like
>you fucking retards gave them one billion dollars>for macrotransactions
>>2504343for exquisite jpgs saarczech ur facts!
>microtransactions when macrotransactions walk in
>people fell for the 5k waste of money after the clusterfucks of recent patchesIncredible.
>>2504338I'm not complaining.If humanity develops the ability to do shit like control gravity and do FTL acceleration then conventional ship designs go out the fucking window. It only looks like the Arcadia because of Chris's autism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPUEjLdsxfocultist bros ww@?wagmi niggas one and all besidesyo imagine having to wrangle forty spergs at once to keep that thing halfway effective though goddamn
actually a really cool ship and i'm happy for everyone that got their hands on one so far, not least of all for pushing it over the ten figure marksittin' so high and mighty and oh-so comfy with my shork right now fr she is the perfect gradient of ship i could reasonably employ to any degree of fullness and the blade-congruent turrets will be a big treat eventually i think fuckletter from the chairman soon i think
Is there a seafoam green pain? this is important
>>2504394zogbot olive instead
>>2504397Kino Wish I was a big enough whale to buy it
>>2504415i'm a little averse to UEEN olive on most things save the constellations which are drop dead sexy in it but it's pretty fucking swag here too by all signsfuck even the thought of having one of these under one's belt though what a headache, gonna be the most fun to be crew on such a thing anyways. not even in gunnery either. this is the scale of thing where it starts to get zany simply being a cell inside helping keep it operable and such
>>2504397Kind of a shame you can't get these if you got the credit one, unless they decide to be very nice and distribute them later.Also of note you can buy a $60 2 pack of the blue camo and the black and grey thundercloud look alike camo if you have an odin(Harbard and Stormchaser)
embarassing that odin is best at everything.Also embarassing that the FIRST WAVE of this "limited" ship was 1000 ships.Cool ship but jesus christ
Not giftable but meltable?
>>2504473totally account-sutured or so i heard
>>2504473They disabled the ability to gift these limited wave capital ships a while ago.
>>2504474First ones for sale on gray market?
>>2504461frankly i think it's better that they're more freely available than notpreferable to have everyone that wants one with the means to get one rather than them being all that exclusivethe profuseness is the balance>>2504477idk lmao but to transfer one will involve an account handoff in full as best i'm aware
>>2504482Can you at least melt it, so you can buyback it later and fly other shit. or are you doomed to fly its loaners if you use all your shit?
they did a great job blending together the arcadia and yamato and an LOGH battleship together tooreally neat hull
>>2504489I can't try at the moment because cooldown but it looks meltable like any other cap ship to me.
>>2504473Can't gift any item that costs over $1000. The Idris-M was originally exactly 1k so the first wave of them are still giftable and usually go for 4-6k on the gray market. On the flip side, any item or package worth over 1k gets LTI on everything in it.
I’m going to fucking ropemax, not selected for Odin founder club after $30k spent. People in my org dm’ing if I was able to get one.
I have the purchase right, but i dont have the money.
>>2504645yeah CIG really dropped the ball when it comes to how they selected goys, people literally sent in dick pics and still got a slot so clearly it never mattered who or why just complete random selection.Like at least filter out the people that wrote that they have no intention of buying one?
>>2504645I literally have no idea how I got selected other than I have high hours played. I wrote a simple 3 line poem about liking battleships that took maybe 1 minute to write. Got my credit one though
>>2504667I've played a lot too - I have the kraken and I wrote the thing i posted here.
>maxlifting torpedoes into vertical alignment>packet loss>tractor cuts out>drops the munition>magazine goes up all at once
>humanity has immortality, galactic flights etc>but our ships need manually fed revolver cylinders for some reason
Taking a better look at the stats this thing is pretty nuts. Ignoring the size 12 that looks like that mango where everybody dies. It's got basically got 10 Perseus's strapped to the side as secondary guns.Ten 6 s12 ballistic cannons followed by another 11 s10 guns.Also of note the PDC's aren't s1 like normal but it has s2 PDC's 42 of them.
>Everyone here has an Odin while I only have a JavelinNever should've bought a house.
>>2504708yeah on paper its the best ship in the game, best at everything.Its kinda annoying desu. At least it can still be boarded to kill the solo bob driving it? Perseus to the ass and open the big ass doors.
>>2504397I'll never own an Odin but if I did it'd be between that one and the Stormchaser camo. I'm always a sucker for military green with yellow or orange highlights but the blue camo is pretty kino.
slightly annoyed that there are 3 really cool paints I can never ever have reee
Anyone watch the video, do they say when they plan to make it?
odin comes with a puppervery pog
>>2504796Galaxy is IAE this year, Kraken is Invictus/Defencecon next year, Javelin is IAE next year. So probably in 2.5 years.
>>2504796absolutely nothing concrete stated on that fronti would wager this is something to hopefully expect alongside little besides 1.0 down the line
>>2504201I have purchase right - I want this paint. But I cant afford it. FFfffuck. I'll just have to cope with Kraken.
Guess the only way to play this game once Odin comes is boarding, so gotta start recruiting and training pro fps murderers somehow.
>>2504924On the plus side if you punch open the side hangars you'll be able to fly a filled Valkyrie inside of it for boarding shenanigans.
IVE HAD IT FUCKI G GAY ASSSS GAME STUPID NIGGER WONT EVEN LET ME SPEND 5K ON YOUR FUCKASS JAYPEG BECAUSE OF YOUR SHITTY WEBSITE HANDLING ERROR IT WAS IN MY CART FUCKING HELL
>>2505053use an atomic clock, be faster anon.
polaris is and always was a piece of shitanything without serious pilot firepower isn't worth flyinglub me tiburon, simple asany much larger would be too much ship for a single person to at all reasonably own let alone operatehad both it and the m80 very largely seemingly designed about my preferences this year atop cheers chris(t)-samaquad remote turrets slaved to ai blades when ciggy???an option for forward pilot slaving and free-tracking modules would be coolsc's future looking as bright as the sun to this day btw
>>2505053Probably for the best.
>>2505063they get to live till december maybe
>>2490666Digits witnessed. The name is a number.
>>2505113what the
>>2505116the future is now, old man
>>2505122can it wait for another millenia ?
>>2505132with any modicum of luck this awful species will have killed itself off by then ;^3
I want an odin but I didn't get invited to buy it.
Earth needs Server wipe.
>>2505175give me the money and i can buy it.
I got an Odin
>>2505210have you got sixty sperg cucks to herd?are you intent on sitting in the central cuck chair?
>>2504708>42 s2 pdcs>s242
>>2505063>anything without serious pilot firepower isn't worth flyingThat's simply not true, though. The Perseus is worthless solo and yet it's one of the most used big ships in the game, and the only one that people actually bother to crew on a regular basis. What really matters isn't the pilot's firepower, it's whether gunners can actually feel like they're doing something worthwhile, and I bet that a Polaris-sized version of the Perseus concept would be very popular. The Polaris just sucks because torps are trash.
>>2505302Bingo, not idea why CIG doesn't understand this.
>>2505302>Polaris-sized version of the Perseus conceptYou got that concept on hand?
Why is the Odin currently nameable but the Javelin isn't?
what hardware do i need for a smooth 1440p experience?
>>2505302>The Perseus is worthless soloexactlyi don't have the patience for herding so much as a single sperg or tolerating whatever might pass as a deficiency in performancealone, it all comes down to one's self and that's the only thing one can rigorously hold accountable and exert direct effort to improve anyhow
>>2505563No way unc is talm like this bout he vapourware space ship game oml
this does not even touch on the matter of how inhumane it is to ask another to crew a turret btwi frankly don't care how worthwhile the perseus' guns are when manned, i could never ask another to sit their ass in one of any gradient whatsoever as to control a ship in full is the very height of everything this game has to offergive me blades and ai crew or give me death
and only the odin has now but barely breached the line of acceptability as to actually crewing the thing properly given its magnitude on all fronts and the sheer texture of what upwards of forty people acting in concert might well amount toi frankly doubt the javelin will even warrant it but that remains to be seenthe idris falls far and short as does all beneath
>>2505323I mean concept as in "the core idea of the ship," not like a "concept ship" in CIG terms, so in other words a Polaris-sized ship that's focused on big gun turrets. >>2505584>this does not even touch on the matter of how inhumane it is to ask another to crew a turret btwOnly people who never play multicrew say this shit. People love the Perseus turrets, hell a lot of owners I know beg other people to fly the ship so they can shoot the big guns. My group uses the Perseus all the time because it's such an effective way to grind stuff like Intersec rep and the only friction is over not wanting to use the little S3s, but I generally jump on that myself since I don't mind it.
>>2505584What? Bro just type in global "Hiring turret gunners in Stanton, lets do some merc missions." etc. I get gunners all the time, its how my org recruits new people.
>>2505600>>2505602just because someone assents to something does not mean you should inflict it upon them frens
>>2505440probably a throw back to the old days when the first run of ships where nameable like the polaris and corsair
Polaris torpedo gunner can be pretty fun when the torpedos decide to work.There are people who are ready to be gunners, but it doesn't make it less boring.For example on the polaris torpedo - make it TV guided and you suddenly involve the player a lot more.
>>2505613Oddly and definitely by accident, CIG is actually alleviating the problem by creating so little space combat gameplay.Being gunner in current real gameplay is mostly just a transition phase before going to do most of the things you do in FPS.Even TSG has a fps section.
>>2505197No.
>called a faggot a fag like 10 months ago>got chat banned>now can't buy largest internet spaceshipThe world is cruel to the righteous man.
>>2505794I sincerely doubt it's because of chat bans, it's probably just random because cig is retarded.
I better get into an org where they plan to properly man an Odin. I'll happily just walk around and patrol. The hologram was super ugly but I am actually so Impressed with how it turned out.
>>2506017Thats.. none?
>>2506017>happy with how it turned outThat hallway is 80% or more wasted space.
People are fucking PISSED about the Odin it seems. Fucking Legatus, Praetorian, Wing Commanders got screwed over with the selection process,even. Worse, they came up with >okay, write an essay up to 999 words about what and whyonly for people to spam little bullshit, create alts, and posted shit like memes and "i'll never afford it lawl". I'd not be so annoyed if there wasn't a rumor that >Founder's club badge on Spectrum >certain skinswill be EXCLUSIVE to those who got them in this wave. That shit is simply not acceptable and crosses FOMO bullshit that in the past CIG avoided which is how people wanted to spend $1K or more on Concierge in the first fucking place. If it was just a matter of anyone who got the ship before it as released in public (ie still not playable - since it may take several events before etc) would be considered a "founder" in terms of the forum badge, and then they made the liveries openly accessible to players who picked them up later on, it wouldn't be so bad. >>2504665>>2504645These are examples it seems. Lots of it on Spectrum too. I'm particularly annoyed considering I took the word of a bunch of oldfag players with high tier concierge who basically said >Don't worry they said they're taking shit into account. Remember back in the day, I'm sure that anyone with at least Wing Commander status will be automatically entered like it used to be for wave 1 shit and all. only for it to totally go to hell apparently.
>752mSurprisingly shortThis is the logical conclusion of SC shipsAll the ammo, all the fuel, all the guns, all the storage space
>>2506261Apparently this exact scenario happened when the Kraken first went up on sale. Same essay requirement, same random selection, and those who didn't get accepted had their submission tickets left open (still to this day) with no automated rejection letter informing them, like the Odin.had I known this prior, I would have never even bothered sending a ticket.
>>2506271I do recall that, but as far as I know the Kraken had nothing "exclusive" to that first wave unless I'm forgetting, cosmetic or otherwise. Not to mention that a $1400 ship, as expensive as it is, is not a fucking $5900 ship. Having the Kraken and Idris be the largest user purchased ships for awhile made sense and still kept some degree of sanity, but they've been pushing the envelope with the Javelin (which was supposedly sold exclusively as a unfinished project you have to gear up and equip properly to fly) for a 3K ship, but now the Odin is the fucking Space Battleship Yamato I always wanted, is nearly 6K, and they still haven't figured out a better way to do this shit with respect for long time players, much less how it goes into the balance for the rest of the thing and of course how it will appear to every fucking clickbait "scam" poster out there talking about the new fucking $6K ship PLUS apparently FOMO bullshit and a very flawed selection process. I hope some of this is wrong but its so fucking frustrating.All i can hope is that if enough potential big spenders make a huge fucking stink about it (and also point to those who are trying to sell Odin accounts on gray market sites) they'll at very least cut all the FOMO shit out and just make the ship available to buy later on as a 'normal' capital ship - something they can still improve in the future.
Holy moly that line is going UPI'm guessing they're on track for 200m this year, over 155m last year's recordIts neat how the 1B and odin sale lined up perfectlyWe could see 2 billion in the next 5 years or less>>2506296they literally don't want your money
>>2505536^^
>>2506391AMD X3D or 12th gen and above Intel CPU, 40-50 series Goyvidia/RDNA3 or 4,16gb VRAM and atleast 32GB of system RAM. There is no such thing as a "smooth" experience btw, good luck!
>>2506391just get the best you can afford, it's not optimized and you'll get 30fps at levski no matter whatany X3D cpu or current gen intellast I checked 7900XT was the best bang for your buck under 700 and a buttload of VRAM
>>2506261The only really annoying part is that i really liked the "Rebellion" paint and now even if i could afford the ship or could wikelo grind it in the future, i can never have the skin. And i cannot steal the ship from other players since it gets almost instantly bricked.
>>2506271Why was everyone silent about it?I bought my kraken 2024 so it was just a normal wave.
>>2506318Keep in mind CIG uses upwards of 13 million dollars per month.According to insider they had 5 million in the bank before defensecon.We will see another odin sale this year.
>>2506296On the ship itself the only thing I think is outrageous is that...Its the best at EVERYTHING, literally everything. It only makes me want to grow my org and get some real cutthroats for boarding actions since obviously even against solo odin the only thing you can do is boarding.
>>2506271>>2506296I was there at the Citizencon where the Kraken was announced and I don't remember anything about an essay for that, it was just a weird wave structure that pissed people off.
>>2506595The essay and dual fomo is designed to artificially create scarcity.6000 Odin released now and 6000 later this year, if not 12000. So its another idris - the scarcity just ensures they can reliably get it sold.The odin sale funded cig for ~2 months.
>>2506602Also consider that odin was sold out in all of the waves so they had way more people raffled than they had ships to sell.
>>2506318What was this site again?
>>2506615Nvm found it
>>2506570This is the thing that if nothing else, we should convince them to change. As I recall NO other capital ships that are limited purchase have something like this. They actually did the smart thing with the Idris in that the various custom kits are available to every Idris owner so if you buy K or T, whenever you have the money etc.. you get the special skins included with each. This encourages players who own them to upgrade even down the road for the gear and the skin alike. I don't think Kraken had an exclusive limited time skin and the only thing I'm not sure about is if they are selling the Kraken Privateer Upgrade Kit independently. I'm pretty sure the Javelin doesn't have a very limited skin either.All of these things are already stupidly limited and hard to get, so making a FOMO thing to the point that you NEVER get the aesthetic/badge etc. is antithetical to getting more people to pledge for the thing. They already don't have enough (or refuse to release enough) , the essay contest was a shitshow apparently, and even the previous limited F5 war means people expect not to get the thing first time etc. So why even bother with this? All it does is create bad faith that people who are willing and able to buy a $5000+ ship will be less likely to do so when it does become available, if I cant get the appearances I want for it because of exclusive bullshit. etc. Stupid all around, plus its bad press, makes players angry and other shit too. >>2506586The thing about the Javelin that was supposed to counter it just being larger and better was that it was basically a fucking junk hull you needed a bunch of people to condition. If the Odin is not only much larger, more powerful AND come military grade gear equipped if someone has one you're basically out of luck except against vast numbers, boarding etc. Sure it may be tweaked in time but we'll see...frankly sellingg anyting bigger than Jav is an issue in and of itself.
>>2506634Yes its a bit ludicrous.In current game, you can park it anywhere to clock a poi.In current game there are many areas you simply wont fit as even the smallest asteroids are static immovable objects.
I started to look at people posting fleets in concierge. German guy no org.
This guy listed every ships use and military organization.In an org with 4 people.
No org on this guy either.
>>2506702>>2506716>>2506732My point is that this is the hoarder type of mental illness.Or in reverse maybe I have the mental illness for caring about what ships i can actually get crew for? How many ships i can possibly ever fly? For creating an org to try and get crew?
>30 days since I bothered to send in my A.I. generated shit for odin club>ticket still remains open but completely ignored and untouched1000+ employyes and they can't even fucking close tickets anymore.Billion dollar company my fucking ass.
>>2506742Maybe they'll just rent out ships for cash money like blackrock jews?
>armor made every ship weapon practically useless save for deadbolts and M cannonsCIG really did it this time
>>2506898Hertz ship rentals.Rent odin with klarna.
>>2506391Your game experience will mostly depend on the server you currently play on. During calm hours with no big events in a remote location you will have a very smooth gameplay. Most things will work as intended. On a full shard during peak hours / events your suffering will have no end. Nothing will work, your ship randomly explodes and yours frames dip into slideshow territory. Do not spend too much on hardware just for star citizen. I got a radeon 9070, 64gb ram and a 5800x3d cpu. Its a good allround system without breaking the bank.
>>2507369I think the best indication of a full server tends to be when inventory stops working.
Im a bit slow I guess but I just realized.A big chunk of Odis ofc was specifically sold to Chyna. Thats also why the ship is just simply the best at everything.Chynese and Korean expect their pay-to-win to be exactly that.
>>2493004>rate my fleetYou paid hundreds for scam/10
>>2506702>>2506716>>2506732It's crazy when you think a couple of hundred super whales who have no life, no friends, no family, nothing are keeping this retarded game afloat.
>>2507489The worst are the one with a family who they hide their 5000 bucks purchase from.>Honey ? Why is 5000 dollars of our income gone ? Did you bought a shitbox ?>No I bought a worthless jpeg on a perpetually indev game
>>2507513Are you cheating on me?!?>No its worse.
>>2507513>>2507569>"Are you spending our money on drugs and alcohol? We can talk about that!""No...">"Is it onlyfans? Are you simping for a zoomer turbo slut online? Its okay its not real afterall.""No...">"Did you order a hitman to kill my mom? She is a bit much afterall.""No..." >"What did you do with these 5000 bucks then?""I bought a picture of a spaceship.">"... ehh... is it a real picture with a pretty frame that we can use to decorate...""No, its an online jpg.">"well... I... Im sure its a nice spaceship that you can fly around and do lots of stuff with your friends, r-right?""No, its not finished for years to come, i dont have friends, the friendlist is bugged and the ship would just randomly explode after spawning anyway.">"...why then?""...i... i need help"
Yeah well I'm in the founders club and you're not
>>2507619My condolences bro it's going to be okay.
r8 fleet
>>2507629b8/b10
>>2507629>no scythelole
>>2507629straight jacket and meds tier
>>2507629trying too hard to bait tier.eg. >>2506716this guy literally listed multiple spectrum posts worth of military hierarchy and roles for his ships.
Spectrum is named spectrum since all the users are on the autism spectrum?
>>2507751that's a bingo
I wonder what would be the best community to get fps murderers from, like Planetside?Kinda want to get guys who dont give a shit about ships to my org.
>>2506732This one is somewhat reasonable IMO, at least by whale standards. He's got a lot of solo and small group options and nothing that requires a huge crew. He might have a friend group that he plays with, or an org that just hasn't made itself a page on the RSI site as well.He also might have spent a LOT less than it looks like if he's been doing the CCU thing for a long time. I'm in the same boat and my actual spend, while still ridiculous, is over $2k less than the "value" of the ships at current prices, and I haven't even played the CCU game that deliberately, I know people who have $175 Polarises and shit like that. Pic is mine but I'm in two orgs and rarely play solo.
Im pretty sure I figured out why CIG did the essay thing.They needed to reasonably be able to regionlock enough Odins to go to China with a good excuse. Also why they didnt give a shit what you wrote.
..hold up, what are the rentals for the Odin?Are Odinfags getting access to literally every ship?
>>2509483Apparently just an Idris-P. Kinda funny, I think you have to own an Idris outright to be able to get the upgrade kits so people with an Odin won't even be able to get those, though most people who shelled out for an Odin probably already have an Idris anyway. (I guess it's almost a "good" deal if you melted an Idris to put toward a credit one.)
>>2509536Its funny how cig did this, now people asking for better loaners get attacked by people who didnt get a chance to buy odin, people complaining about f5 get attacked by people not in odin founders club access.......
hitting hathor sites at night with a silenced sniper rifle is peak comfy
I require 1080p 60fps footage of elevator doors opening to a black void and player POV when accidentally walking into said elevators to the void. gonna make a music video out of it.
>>2510784It's been really fun shitting on people complaining about not getting in the club. You can just tell them that they wrote a bad essay or didn't play the game enough and they get really mad.
I like the big ships, most inside looks cool but it feels like waste. Space travel takes forever just getting 6 people takes forever to even go, then one bug away and the entire shit breaks.
Bit late to the party here but you're telling me there's people out there who complained they could not spent 5000 bucks for a jpeg because of a special FOMO club ? Am I in the twilight zone ?
>ODIN sale ends>get mail from cuncierge asking me to approve or disapprove of their "service" regarding the ticket they left unread for 30 days, not even bothering to close the ticket to simply cuntfirm if I'd get a slot or not>disapprove and send dick picThere, surely I'll get a slot the next time just like all the other assholes that sent dick pics getting a slot?
>>2511151Yes. Applicants were informed that if they submitted an application containing fewer than 999 words explaining why they were Chris's greatest goys, they would be considered for the club and have the chance to compete against others in a F5 war for a limited supply of the $5000 ship, which included FOMO skins exclusive to this round. Turns out, the selection was entirely random, with some applicants straight up saying "not gonna buy lol" and still getting an automated acceptance letter, starting off with "After careful consideration."To add insult to injury, they posted a 1 hour pre-recorded session with all the top guys in charge of making these ships, circlejerking each other off about all the possible gameplay opportunities it brings among other things, saying the exact same spiel they've been giving for 14 years by the same people who don't play or understand how their game works and how it actually plays out with the capital ships flyable right now.
>>2511167So they've been pissing on you guys for a decade and yet some fucktards still pull out the soaked credit card ? Marvelous.
>>2511233While I know you are the troll from earlier.. I'll feed you a bit.The best part of this all is that Concierge is FILLED with people crying from not getting Odin (not realizing they were sold to the chynese) - They will be lining up all the same later this year when Odin is on sale again.CIG is burning over 13million per month so they will have to keep milking until end of time.
>>2511422>the troll from earlier???>they were sold to the chineseConsidering their mentality for winning it does not surprise me
>>2511446Yes, thats one reason why the Odin was paraded and specifically mentioned being best at everything. And the vehicle team did not say any way of fighting back, unlike with some previous ships.
>>2511422>sold to chynese>13 millioncitation needed
>>2511580They need to dripfeed it there too.But its literally the only reason why to select who gets to go to f5 war.I tried to give my purchase right away at the last moment, feeling bad at people genuinely dissapointed they didnt get to flex their generational wealth. got a response today:>"...All submissions were reviewed and selections were made based on the content of each application alongside a set of internal criteria that we are unable to share in detail. We know that's difficult to hear for backers such as... ...who invested real time and thought into their submission, and we want backers to know that the decision was not a reflection of their standing as a backer or their value to this community."Also confirmed it will be coming to sale again.
> Load up game for first time probably this decade> Aeroview Hangar music playing> I am suddenly in the early 2010s excited for a game to co-op with friends> "Grifter" hadn't entered the general publics lexicon yet> Hopeful for the future> I am now in my early 30s and life has worn me down into a kind but jaded nihilist> People have died. Friends have drifted and most of my remaining circles are normiesSorry for the blog but fuck man, what a disappointment. I hope all of you are doing okay.
>>2511832Welcome back to hell, citizen
Cant wait for the morgue gameplay to come with the odin in/before 1.0!!!! We are so close to the finish line guys
>>2513008They are jumping the gun.Should be a retirement home for the owner.
Realized one thing on the Odin....I dont think I have melted a single ship and i got approved.
>>2511167Atop this that in the past shit like this used to grandfather in those who were Concierge of sufficient rank (at minimum anyone at the 5K spend on their account at least should have been in automatically) but they didn't do it this time . Likewise, others (regardless of spend) who had extremely old accounts - l ike those who were backers when this fucking stretch goal was unlocked , or those older like Original Backers or Golden Ticket (ie those who were there BEFORE the Kickstarter) would have been in as well. Again this didn't happen. All of this atop the F5 war really pisses people off because it all could have been handled better. However the biggest issues so far are >ONLY those who were A) Invited to the Club, B) managed to buy a ship via Warbond - full cash, get 3 skins - including the Space Battleship Yamato paint job. Unless they change shit, they are ONLY for this drop, so even if you pay $5K later on sorry, no special paint jobs for you. Even those who made it into the Club, and then tried to buy the ship with some amount of store credit, would only get access to 2 of the 5 skins - I'm unsure if they are included or need to be bought a la carte, but the 3 special skins from the Warbond were NOT available even at a la carte additional purchase. This is literally one of the worst things that CIG has done in recent memory and a lot of people are pissed . Hopefully there will be enough people complaining on Spectrum that they'll reverse course and realize how badly they shit the bed even among people who can and will pay for such a ship. To say nothing for how this appears to the average player ! This would be a great time for them to confirm that all 5 of the goddamn skins will be available in game through play, just like they do in the Odin page for the ship itself, otherwise this is the kind of whale shit that turns off the players this game NEEDS to keep viable long term
>>2507617This. When I tell my Org that I pledged an Aurora MR in 2013 for $35 and get Squadron 42 as well and will never spend another dime they lose their minds. Nutters have spent thousands on their CCU Chains and virtual ships. It’s bizarre.
>>2513966Yeah, i try to tell everyone i meet that the starter is enough, you literally do not need anything else
>>2513966My recommendation for Star Citizen is play during free fly, if you really like it, grab the cheapest game package. Play for a few months and if you still really like it and don't mind spending the same price on it as a modern AAA game go ahead and CCU to a cutlass black which should bring the total price of your starter package to ~$120, the same price as a modern corpo slop AAA game. Cutlass Black lets you experience the vast majority of the game and gives you multiple income options so that you can easily buy a starter mining/salvage ship with ingame currency.If you really want to fuck around with other ships you can just ask people to borrow one in global, people are more than happy to hand out ships collecting dust in their hangars for free and you can now even store those ships in your hangar to use next session. The only stuff remotely difficult to borrow would be the capital class ships and for those you can just join their crew and man turrets or wander around repairing stuff.
>>2507768>Kinda want to get guys who dont give a shit about ships to my org.What would be the purpose of this? People who play FPS don't tend to like to wait while you get shit stocked, organized, and travel to the destination.
>>2514259>People who play FPS don't tend to like to wait while you get shit stocked, organized, and travel to the destination.I'm actually quite excited for the snapshot system for this very reason. You'll (hopefully) just need to spend the time gearing up a ship once and once you snapshot it you'll always be able to revert to that setup so you'll no longer need to constantly restock weapon racks, armor lockers, or vehicles in the cargo hold, it'll instantly do it for you so you can just call it up and shove the whole squad inside and immediately depart.
>>2514242you won't even need your own ship when we get a party finderthere will always be parties to join, solo caps, large ships, etc.
>>2514279Have they mentioned it recently? I thought we were getting that with the vehicle insurance/recovery system they added in 4.8
>>2514335>2954So, two years ago. Here and now, the player's list still gets truncated the vast majority of the time. VOIP still doesn't work (and when it does, it's some asshole mouth-breathing, talking on the phone, or playing some foreign TV show in the background for hours on end.Mobiglass is still a janky, buggy piece of shit (especially with maps and navigation). I hold little hope of >>2514279 being actually being usable even if it gets implemented in the next two years. Ships are still blowing up on the pad half the time FFS.
>>2514338The framework exists but it's not currently implemented. The snapshot does log additional ships/vehicles inside of the ship you snapshot but it currently doesn't restore them alongside the ship. It was during PTU snapshotting weapons placed in weapon racks and actually restoring them but I think it was cut out last second before it went to live. No actual hard timeline on it all being made functional though my current guess is within 6 months for some of it and within a year for all of it. With that being said It'll either consistently be improved upon every other patch or it won't be touched and will remain like this for the next 3 years.
>>2514242>play during free fly While I conceptually like this idea, the problem is that both>Free Fly, especially big event related ones like Defense Con>Right after New Patches drop, like 4.8 are the WORST time for you to get a good bug/server lag etc.. free experience on which to judge the game. I don't object to people playing during Free Fly, but just realize that a lot of the bugs and other concentration of issue you see there or a new patch, may not be anywhere near as heavy when you're playing days, weeks etc.. later.
>>2506119not wasted when it's crammed with nursas, pitbulls, novas, ballistas etc
so what's the excuse for the servers being so donkey dick after implementing their jesus tech server meshing, given there's no reason for any 'A team' networking guys to be on squadron
>>2514486small indie studio with never done before concept plz understan
>1 billion dollarsdo they ever show where all that money goes?
>>2514486The excuse is that the Goyim cash customers are stupid sheep and CGI is milking them for all they are worth.
>>2515041They release annual financial statements as required by UK law. Pretty much all of it goes to paying for their 4 studios and 1000+ employees, they're barely profitable at all. A billion dollars sounds like a lot until you realize that it's over 14 years and compare it to shit like GTA Online that's still making $400 mil a year.
>>2514259In theory they dont need wait for any of that, they can in theory login - come onboard and grab gear while on route if it comes to that.I could set everything up for them - naturally optimally theyd like to do all fps content in the game to some extent so that they hang around, develop connections and play on normal situations. But if push comes to shove, I really just want to drop the ants off on my enemies.But I might be overthinking it since I am a decent fps player and I know many pvpers are - especially as thats star citizen now.
>>2514486this isnt server anon, its your pc AND the server.TSG seems to have never been optimized, not sure if CIG knows what that means or entails.What IS server is - I got stuck in QVL last night, just complete desync. everyone who even came to the qvl got trapped in. I was foolish enough to be there in my polaris and lost some 3 million auec to that.
>>2513705It's too late to reverse their retarded decision though.It's gonna stick just like all the other bullshit stunts they've pulled over the years.But it's okay, I'll just piss away my money on map artists and script kiddies making content for my ALIEN RPG VTT sets.Crobs can eat shit and die wtih his retardation and frankly at this point I'd rather see him fail than to succeed even if this does mean I'll end up having pissed away money on this shit for nothing, denying that ratfuck anglo boomer kike that one last achievement in life.
>>2515041>>2515207CIG burn rate is over 13 million dollars a month.They literally HAVE TO sell odin again this year to keep from bankrupcy.I dunno what CR will do once SQ42 comes out, will he be motivated enough by SQ42 ep 2 to keep milking to survive every quarter or does the midling reviews of SQ42 discourage him.
>>2515350incidentally this is also why "limited hull" ships mean NOTHING.before they are in the game (and after) they will be enough to have 1 every single session you play the game, just like idris.
>>2507768Planetside 2, csgo, arma 3, calladooty(probably worst aim, but will gladly vanguard and soak up rounds), foxhole. MP in those games is strictly pvp, and I've noticed that my "soft-handed" friends that hate actual challenge avoid those games since you are facing human opponents and need to use both cunning and skill to defeat them. It's kind of sad that SC faces massive backlash from players that refuse to take part in pvp and who actively try to get it removed, just because they are so fucking bad at the game and dont want to actually think about ways to defeat or avoid opponents. They are wow players who just want to safely make number go up. They spend more effort bitching on spectrum/reddit, rather than getting good or understanding that the game is a broken mess and pvp is the only real lossless fun in SC right now. Hell, pvp is honestly the most fun in gaming period in open world matches without artificial constraints(closed in levels)I was playing arc raiders with some buds when it first dropped, and I was having a blast with all the pvp, but one bud(massive wow player) was getting irritated with me like i was breaking some unsuspected rule when I would attack randos getting a little too friendly with us. He was also getting violently pissed off talking shit about gankers and how they are losers when we would get completely taken out. I was a little shocked hearing it from an actual person I knew, but it all suddenly made sense. Pve carebears are our short, bald, effeminate bros who can't get no pussy. For all my pvp chads, you are the real kings. Fuck all these limp wrist wusses.
>>2515377I think the arc raiders system is interesting, but its problematic as a pvp game can never truly sustain itself as pve game.As for views on pvp vs pve in SC or in geneal, I think the competition about it is retarded. I think the pvevp landscape is the perfect one - but I too do know a lot of people (including the guy who got me to SC) who just simply refuses to participate in anything with pvp - thats why he doesnt really play SC. Which is a real fucking shame as I, a pvevp player - can easily DECIDE what to do. I can easily KNOW when I am going to be risk of pvp, in fact I can easily even know HOW LIKELY a pvp encounter will be.Fucking simply by playing and not crying about it.The solution is obvious though, the bobs worries should be taken care by player policing (I loved being a cop in APB). But none of the police orgs are active or really pvp.The only real way to ENFORCE player policing is by creating factions that you have to choose from the get go, then you automatically have people defending the bobs by virtue of tribalism and by pvp playerbase split.I get that its not always the player freedom people would want, but I guarantee you it fixes the issue or at least alleviates it in every single game that has it and it would fix in all games that doesnt.Oldschool mmo's like Rising Forces Online had 3 factions actively pvp:ing every single day, yet there was room for pve people and industrial players since the reward from the pvp was industrial - as an example.
>>2515418Nice read. Pvp in star citizen is a choice, really. I like both play styles, but you have to deliberately put yourself in a bad position to get ganked.
>>2515557And if you have 2 braincells you can make the chance of getting ganked pretty much 0.I havent seen any Nyx pirates lately, but originally when they camped Gateways -> Levski routes, just fucking do a dog leg jump its not that hard god damn it.The current CS system is dumb as fuck and Pyro is by far the most peaceful system for 3 reasons, 1. Sheep dont usually go there so wolves wont either, 2. Rule of the jungle, most people expect a fight if you interfere with people there. 3. Its big, pvp is mostly on CZ & exech where you go to actively participate.Stanton? Someone griefing you? Dare to do something against them? CS - on to prison you go.
>>2515620*4 reasons4. All the new content is in Nyx or Stanton and Pyro content mostly does not work.
Anyone have a link to the court records of Sandi strangling CR's wife at the time?
>>2515757I know what you're talking about, but no.IIRC she never strangled her, just hopped a fence into their property and confronted Chris about something.
>>2511167>>2513705Sounds like they were doing you lads a favor by not letting you spend more money on this project. And I say that as a whale.>circlejerking each other off about all the possible gameplay opportunities it brings among other thingsThis is something that bothered me during their round table talk.Even if you were one of those people that managed to beat the F5 race, the Odin doesn't offer you anything substantial from a gameplay perspective. It does all of the things any other org ship can do.You're not getting a better gameplay experience by getting a battlecruiser. You're getting a large hangar with some big guns and thick armor attached to it. So why would you unironically get mad at missing the opportunity to waste $5000 on it? Let alone the skins?
>>2515345it's the server. I've been around plenty of ship carnage and never seen lag that bad in this game before, and I've never seen this message pop up before either, which I got multiple times during that mess
Does this game have a beginning, middle and end yet? I heard someone refer to it as early, early alpha a short while back which had me literally rolling on the floor lmaoing.
>>2516651Ah ok, never seen that one but I did get in forever desync on qvl yesterday too. I think the servers were pretty cooked. Wonder when they reset.
There was a bug in rentals at defensecon where you could rent multiple times the same ship to extend rental period.
>>2517164>Wonder when they reset4.9 (july)
>>2479367>good pilot in an M80 shit all over a decent pilot in an Arrow in ACWho
>>2517376Kek, called out. If you play ac, you know all other players by name unless they are absolute shitters that fuck off after 1 or 2 matches
>>2515339>In theory they dont need wait for any of that, they can in theory login - come onboard and grab gear while on route if it comes to that.Why would a player who is solely interested in FPS play Star Citizen over COD, BF, Planetside, CS, or all the extraction/hero/class shooters?What would be the draw?>>2517082>Does this game have a beginning, middle and end yet?It plays like an early alpha, but what it actually is is "Stage 4 Perma-Alpha"; a game that would never make it past alpha until it has to be dropped due to finances, at which point life support is pulled and the game is solemnly labeled "complete" even as it lies upon its deathbed.
>>2517609>What would be the draw?I asked AI for its opinnion earlier and it said something along these lines:1. Being a payload dropped in to action some how interests them2. Tarkov players apparently get bored waiting for new content and are used to jank>>2517434I heard some "pvp-meta" shit sourced to like shadowmoses - "all ballistics" etc. Took a while for me to realize these people play AC so its not very applicable to PU.
>>2517609>planetside, battlefieldif a pvp event like jumptown were instanced, it ran well, it'd be thatcombine space/ground vehicles, no map boundaries, meaningful stakes, useful non-combatant gameplay, and a decent player capiirc last time we had JT it was on 50 player servers>cod, cs, hero shooterSC is explicitly not for these people, this has been said since 2012
>>2517922AI reasoned Tarkov and Arma are the best games to try and get boarders from.
>>2518032Specificly due to jank and the desire to be a tactical unit. (like a squad dropped to enemy ship or positions to take them out)
>>2517671SM trains in both AC and PU. They have an extensive research group that tests out weapons/shields/components to figure out what is best in PU, though I doubt they release their patch determined meta builds for PU to public. I also wouldn't be surprised if they did release meta to public just to make competition better so they can have tougher opponents. Their entire spiel is being the best pvp org, and they likely are.
>>2518113I dont doubt they are best pvp org or know about what the best setup is (for ac).PU pvp "meta" is slighly skewed however, you dont get ammo and repairs by just flying through it, there are no fair matchups and the performance is between ass and wet fart.For example saying that all-deadbolt setup is good in pu is fair, since you can punch up. But "all ballistics", including shredders for example is a little misleading.FF and server performance seemed to curb pvp enthusiasts in pu anyway.
>>2517376Ironic that SM got brought up down the reply chain, the M80 was Vergjl. Didn't catch the Arrow's name but he seemed competent but nothing special.
>>2518593Doesn't surprise me, he's earned his shit talkin privileges by demonstrating pvp prowess constantly. I miss the boys and lass, but I got too much irl goin on.
>>2518593>>2518650I don't follow the pvp scene much - but.Did you notice A1 went religious nut.
>>2506318https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_PPdjD6mg
Who here has Orc MK9?
>>2519293Not available to players yet.
>>2519322yeah but who among us is an old enough fag to have it.
>>2519361I backed the game in Oct 2013, don't know if that was early enough.
>>2519535might be, the item on my account has a 2014 grant date, though I do think it was a stretch goal reward before that
is it actually a not yet created armour? I know there's some ORC stuff already in game, I never paid attention to the numbers. once in a while I see this and just assume they haven't set up attribution for it. they have a lot of old shit that doesn't even work or have physical assets in the hangar and this is from about the same age group.
>>2520255MK9 is from an early stretch goal, and if I remeber correctly is superior both MK5 and MK10 marine armor, but was phase out cus it was expensive.Basically its a set of like "Superior" quality Medium armor and in theory any back early enough should both get a set for free and automatically have the blueprints to produce it.
>>2520788Im sure cig ill get right on that
I like this nebulous piece of shit
>>2521748>AMX-1 Repair Bot>Free Hanger Fees on starting planet>Electro Skin Hull>Engine Tuning Kit>Manned Maneuvering UnitCould be worse. Could be we'll never get the things they promised at the start of it all because neither the current business model nor the game direction allows for any of it now.Just theme park rides with forklift simulators in-between.
>make spacedads and their beeg ships literally invincible to 65% of the weapons in game>they STILL seethe about light fighters non stop
>>2522002>Electro Skin HullI wish they'd just say all ships have this and make paints a non-physical account thing like blueprints so you can apply them at any time and don't have to pay out the ass to claim an otherwise stock ship just to get the paint back.
>>2523222>don't have to pay out the ass to claim an otherwise stock ship just to get the paint back.paints bought via the store can be reclaimed instantly for free by using the freight terminal in your home location. It can also be used to reclaim ship modules such as the Idris Laser, Super Hornet ballistic turret, apollo/retaliator modules.
>>2523261That's still shitty, though, since it takes so long to get back to your home location from a lot of places. I guess the other big piece of the puzzle is the stupidity of charging you for stock loadout stuff, it wouldn't be a big deal if you ONLY had to pay for mods/upgrades.
>>2523454While it's par for the course that CIG launches an under-baked barely functioning new system this one has been particularly disastrous. It has outright obsoleted the entirety of ship weapon/component scavenging, caused massive performance issues by making it impossible to remove ships via self-destruct, made all those leftover ships at a bunker worthless because they're bricked, and made certain ships an absolute pain in the ass to recall because you need to reclaim their modules, reclaim the ship, reclaim the paint, and then put the modules back into the ship.
>>2525375For what it's worth I've managed to get salvaged weapons to work for my own use. Couldn't send them down an elevator but I swapped with a tractor beam and then stored and saved the loadout, and they've properly persisted through multiple claims. No selling anymore since the elevator tags them as stolen though, unless maybe you can do it at Grim or wherever else takes stolen cargo.
so does anyone know what the next monthly bundle is gonna be?
>>2525827It was datamined before 4.8 came out.
>>2525827>>2525865With pic related most likely being the undersuit/armor mentioned...
>>2523454>guess the other big piece of the puzzle is the stupidity of charging you for stock loadout stuff, it wouldn't be a big deal if you ONLY had to pay for mods/upgradesYes because this is how anyone who isn't a complete and utter retard would have designed it but CIG's dev team have again proven their incompetence whilst the community continues to blame the ever present "marketing" for all issues.
>>2525868What the fuck are they doing
>>2525875being visually appealing is cliche. aren't you glad we have arts degrees in the company to make sure things are new and different yet grounded (ugly and weird)?
>>2525868Imagine someone spent time modelling and texturing this.
any funny exploits to TSG?Got my polaris stored in the tsg station, not so funny.
I love thirst trapping around stations
>>2507484poor
>>2525875ugly bitch
>SQ42 delayed till 2028 but CIG refuses to admit it so will just keep a low profile and say nothing even as new years in december passes over>this is open game development
>>2527690Yes you are poor and in debt over a scam video game.
>>2527805ok. what ship do you have ?
>>2528039Ok why are you a scammed retard who got in debt over jpegs from a known con man?
Does the ironclad work yet? Do I get crimestat in lawless space for no reason still?
Not trying to start shit but...what compells a man to spend $1000 on Star Citizen?
>>2527493I do this too lol, I remember when the CC was terrible for female characters so I am really glad we have nice hair and eyes now>>2529183No, and I don't know.>>2529919We're mentally ill, is that what you want us to say?
>>2529919What compells a man to spend 1000$ on a hobby.
>>2529919>what compels a man to pay to winwhat kind of question is that
>>2529919If they weren't spending on this they would be spending it on NFT's, bitcoin or catfish indian scammers.They are the dumbest of the dumb. People who are so idealistic they have no concept of common sense.They think there is a game coming that will be their forever game. But they've had 10 years of it not coming and they still slurp on Roberts micro dick like their life depends on it. Low IQ behaviour.>It's a hobby>I have disposable incomeThere's a guy who went on financial audit who bought a javelin and was trying to get an idris and was in massive debt because he kept spending on ships.These fat fucks claim they are spending responsibly, but they're exactly the same kind of people who have 5k car payments for a fucking porsche and massively in debt but then post pics of their car online claiming it's worth it.LOWIQBEHAVIOUR
>>2530666I have 0 debt.How about you?You seem keen on trying to bait reactions, why? Thats not normal behaviour.Manly enough for some introspection, or yet another drooling retard that cant recognize their own envy?
>>2530790>I have 0 debt!>I'm actually a ceo!!!>I drive a lmbourghini!>Uh I have a rolex toooo!!!!>Just take a look at my inspect element bank account statement!!!!!!!!You're poor and in debt over space ships. Worse than even that, you're fat.
>>2530797Ok, so drooling retard.Thanks for the clarification.
>>2530803Thanks you spending all your money and going into debt over frivolous scams.
It's not worth gloating man. The only people complaining about others buying digital goods in this game probably spend $5000-$10,000 annually on drugs/AAA/tattoos/slop/booze/fast food/frivolous shit. They think you buy those kinds of things too and also have so much money that you can also buy ships in star citizen, not realizing that most people who have spent more than $1000 have done it over a decade.Alternatively, they are thirdies, which is it's own book-spanning topic of discussion.
>>2530666Been on SC since 2017. That's nearly a decade at this point. I spent 1400$ total since. That's about 140$ spent on SC a year. A WoW sub is basically the same.
>>2530893>spreads out his spending even though that isn't what happenedWhy lie? You didn't spend 140 on the game a year. You spent a grand in one go. Or 400 in one go. Why lie about it? Also the fact your fat dumb low IQ ass tries to conflate a game that was finished on release and had plenty of expansions to a game that is in early alpha, often just doesn't work and when it does can fuck your progression completely because Chris is too busy gargling Mark Hamill's balls, while charging you up to FIVE THOUSAND DOLALRS for a jpeg of a space ship that isn't even in production yet, is crazy and shows how brain dead you actually are.
>>2530896Im surprised your wranglers gave you an internet access. Guess thats modern world.
>>2530896Why would I lie? Do you not play the CCU game? That's basically how you can worm your way to a lot of the ships.>>2530899Yeah this guy's just stirring shit for love of the game I guess.
>>2530901>I played da ccu game and only spent 140 a year!!!It's crazy how far people who are bad with money and low IQ will plain lie about their spending.
>>2530893>>2530666Had my account for 9 years. Slowly got to 650 USD recently. Plan to not spend much anymore- I quite like my fleet.I once spent 200 in the span of a week on CounterStrike but I was like 16 at the time.>>2530896> He doesn't know what Warbond CCUs areYou are right about some things. Doesn't change the fact that I enjoy playing SC in it's current state. It scratches an itch that nothing else has yet. I only play like 4 hours a week during one play session and It's great.
>>2530912I know exactly what CCu;s are and you are lying about your spending. If you didn't think they was anything wrong you'd just say you spent 1400 on the game but you know everyone thinks you're a retard for doing that so you add in the>when you think about it I only spent 140 over 10 years!When in reality you spent a grand on a ship one year and are masking it.This is why no one takes you people seriously. You're all morons with money and 99% of you are in debt because you're low IQ idiots who will spend a couple of thousand on a game that doesn't work and may very likely get abandoned after squadron releases. Oh and then you tards will buy a couple of VKD sticks for another 7 to 8 hundred bucks because you've fallen for one fucking scam why not another.>Why are you mocking me!?The fact you don't get it will make it so much more funnier when Squadron comes out, Chris, Sandy and Erin announce they're leaving the company and everyone's looking at you holding the bag like a bad shitcoin rug pull.Keep going. Spend more money retard.
>>2530918Ok Boss I will stop spending. I spent 850 total since 2015, in about 3 splurges. Starter pack initially. In 2019 I upgraded about 100usd worth. then in 2021 I spent another 250 and the rest more recently.What should I do now boss ? Sell my RSI account ? or just enjoy what I have. Should I commit to that business Idea I had ? spend and invest in the products that I want to sell ?
>>2530937if you include my flight sticks and pedals then it's like 1200 USD- you got me there.>>2530918
>>2530937I said keep spending ESL retard.
The amount of CIG sympathizers in Global chat ingame is embarassing. People really defend the bugs in this game. Even bringing up the status of the Ironclad doesn't phase them.
Pretty solid loadout for pve on m80 is deadbolt V's and M6A's. Was able to solo up to gilly 7 and cheese the hammerhead at the end. I initially tried the stock repeaters, but got hard locked at the connie since the repeaters don't damage it. so I use laser cannons to strip shield and laser cannons + deadbolts when shield is stripped.
>>2530918Not him, but I'm a little over twice the spend of that other anon. I've never gone into debt for SC (in fact the only debt I have right now is a mostly paid off car loan) and the most I've ever spent in one go was about $350 when I was bored out of my mind during COVID and the government gave me free money. Everything else has just been incremental, $10 here and $25 there for discounted CCUs to make my store credit go further. I also haven't spent more than about $100 in a single year since 2021.
>>2531298Just full deadbolts anon, its worth it.
CIG is losing its biggest content creators support.Spectrum is aflame.First Spacetomatogaming now Foxyloxy
>>2531664What happened? im out of the loopJust 4.8 complaints ?Spectrum is often pretty moany but recently I think it is quite a bit worse... like everything is negative on there right now. They really need to get SQ42 out, if it really is supposedly ready they can't keep waiting for the perfect moment to release. They need to announce it at gamescom. and release in 2026.It would rekindle hope and finally give the people something. I have always been pretty open minded about SC and acknowledge all its weirdness is kinda necessary for such an ambitious project but some things don't make sense, especially since CIG started behaving more corporate and that made sense but this also makes recent failures almost unforgivable. SC progress is fine, its slow and will remain so, it is slowly coming together albiet with plenty of holes but I have faith. Now SQ42 is just Chris Larping as a Big shot hollywood director and I hope its a fun COD campaign but serisouly this needs to come out soon. Chris- prove us wrong.I understand that after SQ42 comes out the following 2 episodes will need to follow suit with relative haste, because nowadays who cares basically. It's gotta be good enough to want 2 more, because all our crowdfunding it basically going towards SQ42 and pretty much nobody asked for it except Chris. is SQ42 is successful it will bring so much to SC so I hope it does well. I am looking forward to it, but Chris can't make it become mainstream like GTA, it's like he's trying to make it the biggest and bestest thing... like its a niche- accept it and give it to the only people who want it.Silly billy.
>>2531691Spacetomato is showing overall lack of quality in SC and naturally 4.8 in comparison to the funding still rolling forward.Foxyloxy took it personally that he's been locked out of 4.8 on his main account and CIG has no tools to fix the accounts. But also circles around to showing that its not just 4.8 but a much longer problem at cig.AFAIK both are long time supporters and generally have been supportive of CIG in the past, so its obviously 4.8 thats their main gripe.But in all honesty they cant be blind to the problems and more importantly the trend cig is setting, they might be realizing that the rumors of cig money/mismanagement troubles are not just rumors.
>>2531313>trust me bro
>>2531691Latest rumor I saw was that CR is gonna retire after SQ42. And it certainly sounds like something he would do.
>already rumors chris sandy and erin will step down from cig after squadron comes outWill the game get better or worse with them not at the helm?
>>2531664tomato is definitely more optimistic than like salty mike, but he's never been shy about pointing when shit's broken or high level designs are going nowhere
>>2530456I get the hobby thing...but the game barely works. Sure if you have disposable income you can throw money at anything but I want to know what compells a man to give money to a company that releases a ship for 650 dollars and it's broken. It was released on one of the most important event of the year too. What makes you want to support this company given its history of consistently doing the bare minimum. What keeps you from coming back? Do you ever get frustrated or tell yourself that I won't give them money until things improve? I mean this in the most respectable way. I love space games and I tried the free fly. I got to explore some random player big ship, I think it was called Polaris and the one with a cool claw that can salvage. But when playing it, the missions felt generic and the lack of social tools for an mmo was a huge let down. I want the game to succeed but I'm confused because what I played does not feel 1billion dollars and 10+ of game development.
>>2531727maybe his successor can go groveling on his knees to beg back all the talented leads chris chased off over the years, leaving half finished plans to be replaced by shit like master modes
>>2531772It's probably going to be the people in charge right now who were responsible for master modes.CR only cares about squadron. I think everyone expected he'd fuck off when his movie game was done. SC was just to get money out the saps to fund Gillian Anderson and Mark Hamil.
>>2531731Better without a shadow of a doubt.Especially as SQ42 is proven as a midling success at best, all eyes will be on PU.The real question is if the whales will keep faith in the project after their messiah is gone.Also there is a real problem that the game is built like a house of cards.If they had a YoshiP style management who admits faults and promises to fix them, there would be hope. But people like that are rare and certainly no-one in management at CIG.
>>2517609I don't think it's finances that will kill it, rather the devs and backers dying of old age.
>>2531827Oh and.YoshiP actually plays his fucking games.
>>2531727I've always believed that SQ is all that CR really cares about and the PU is just a way to fund it, so I wouldn't be shocked. The only thing that makes me question it is that there are supposed to be SQ42 sequels but maybe after taking 15 years to make one game they're gonna give up on that and just focus on the cash cow.
>>2531913CR is too old, he probably realized that at this shit development pace (which he probably doesn't understand he is the cause of) - he wont live long enough to make Episode 2
>>2531913>>2531827>>2531727I do believe that CR is passionate enough where he might want to work until he absolutely can't anymore. I do like him, so I would be dissapointed if he stepped down but I also wouldn't be surprised.I would however like to be surprised soon. The Odin (as much as it is hated) was kinda peak and I was surprised how cool it was. Logistics... yeah idk - hopefully it gets figured out. All it needs really are an org and server meshing. CR has also had things to say during citCons and I think he does like SC but SQ42 is his Hollywood Fantasy LOL- It sounds so stupid.Just like how Notch couldn't break into the elite Celebrity world in LA after selling minecraft CR, will not get SQ42 noticed by Hollywood or whatever he's trying to do. It's still a computer game afterall.Computer games are not "cool". at least not cool to anyone but nerds.I personally really want SQ42 to come out in 2026 & for Chris to stay on personally. His vision is still good. Like modern RSI ships have way too much greeble and the m80 is hardly origin. I worry that we are losing the vision. and if CR leaves it will probably become much more lame in ways. I don't want my $1000 to be a waste too. lol>>2531051
>>253194958 is not too old. You can still direct a project for another 10 years. Keep the vision intact. if he leaves it will be very demoralising. All he has to do is keep things going.
>>2531767>Do you ever get frustrated or tell yourself that I won't give them money until things improve?Not him but I did this. I haven't 100% stopped but I've averaged $25-50 a year tops since 2020 (and literally nothing last year), with the only exception being a Citizencon ticket in 2023 because it was local to me and I wanted to hang out with people I'd known online for years. That said, it's easy not to spend money once you've already got a few grand worth of store credit and no real interest in huge capital ships. IDK if I would've been able to stick with if I wasn't already in that position by the time I cut back. >What makes you want to support this company given its history of consistently doing the bare minimum. What keeps you coming back?The biggest answer is "community." I've got a great small org and a bunch of friends outside of it, and as an aging millennial sci-fi nerd there's really no other game that so squarely matches my demographic. Beyond that, there's really just nothing else like it, and CIG frustratingly manages to make JUST enough progress and have just enough good patches that I can't bring myself to give up despite all of the bad times.
>>2531966>>2531980Yeah that's true, it's not like his job requires a lot of physical ability or anything. My dad was in a somewhat comparable job (art director in the movie/TV industry) and the only reason he retired last year at 78 is that the industry imploded and he hasn't gotten any job offers.
>>2531995>CIG frustratingly manages to make JUST enough progress and have just enough good patches that I can't bring myself to give up despite all of the bad times.yup>aging millennial sci-fi nerdI'm 26, I have been looking for an org but have not found one the aligns. Everyone I meet is in their 30s. do you know many people around my age?I feel there aren't many around my age.
>>2532030most of my org are 20-somethings. Dunno why, maybe they are more open to joining new orgs?I'm 40 and feel 60.
>>2532030Not in my org, but there are a lot of 20-somethings in the various discords. Unfortunately that also means dealing with the usual discord kind of people though, I have to spend a lot of time holding my (proverbial) tongue on them. Ironically my org actually spawned out of one of those discords but we're the normal guys who got pushed out.
>another rumor is one of the devs who spoke to someone else said the story was "ok"Kek
>>2531966He's stepping down because his only interest was in getting squadron done. He never cared about star citizen. Still crazy to me people don't get that after all these years.
>>2532085it's just so fucking small minded to someone who is considered a visionary, and who's had so many mandates for the PU. he had them create this whole galaxy full of history and conflict but has no interest in actually building it? it's just for background flavour for his top gun movie?
>>2532118>considered a visionary,Lmao! By who? Chris has always been a fuck up both in movies and games. >he had them create this whole galaxy full of history and conflict but has no interest in actually building it? it's just for background flavour for his top gun movie?Bingo.
>>2532083Well looking at the sq42 video they showed earlier.. its not very good. Not in presentation, not in story and certainly not in gameplay.
>>2532041Feeling 60 is valid, But I hope you don't identify with that. Believing in your own youth does something to your brain like it increases plasticity through delusion or something.>>2532058This is actually one of my biggest problems. I hate discord. Where are the teamspeak and IRC Orgs? Discord has me so doomerish on online gaming as a whole. electron based spyware should not be required to talk to people. so gay.>>2532118I know it looks like that- like a lot. but it would just make Chris super lame if it were true. Unless there's something else going on like a health crisis or whatever- this would just be super lame.So I refuse to fully give into that idea, I tell myself that whilst it's not provably untrue, the truth wouldn't be so simple and that his vision for SC is just still a while away. So SQ42 1,2&3 are achievable now and SC 1.0 is still like a decade away. In SC lore, the verse will reach the year 3000 when CR turns 102 years old. I think he plans to be around for that and that he is thinking long term for the game. but 1.0 is still like a decade away. That's what I think. I think he'll work for at least another decade. within these next 7 years I expect all 3 episodes of SQ42. & only in the 2030s will the whole team shift to SC. Copium or whatever- it makes sense to me.>>2532230It's fine desu. Just a COD career. Infinite warfare. It looks like something of that quality but higher fidelity. I'm not against it. it might be good.But the hour long clip we saw was kinda cringe. I'm hoping that the first hour is just a cringey intro.It's aspirational and I want to support it.
>>2532329Discord is shit, but at the same time its the most convenient one. People are not using it for that explicit reason.There are OS alternatives, havent tried them but like Matrix - and you can link it to discord. Stoat is another.
>>2532230>>2532118>>2532085>>2531913>>2531869I'm wondering how much money doomers like you guys put into SC ? are you guys grounded players that actually enjoy the game, perhaps have put a few hundreds into the game and are invested ?or are you guys haters?what you say is valid, but I'm wondering if the types of people who say this kinda stuff online are actually people who play the game and what kind of player are they? What does your fleet look like?
>>2531650Thanks bro, I've been running it for gilly grinding, and I think full deadbolts would be better. Not sure I'd want to run it for the pirate ops I'm planning though, seems too potent. I'm thinking the laser cannons and s5 distortions if they exist. I'm grinding for a mantis so I can recruit more randos for my trade lane plans.
>>2532378Not any of the guys you are responding to, but I'm the salty 350r guy.I play the game, I have /some/ money in the game, and I am a hater.
>>2532378>are you guys grounded players that actually enjoy the game, perhaps have put a few hundreds into the game and are invested ?yeah. $300 in, 2012 KS backer.>or are you guys haters?yeah. Chris Roberts has made so many stupid decisions and chased away so much high level talent only to replace them with whatever new grad or H1B was available that immediately went on to cock things up with their own poorly thought out ideas. I have seen the potential of this game shimmer and be squandered. that said I've played more of it since the 'year of stability' than at any point prior and we actually get regular groups together for raid type content. but the sacrifices that have been made over the years have all been totally unnecessary and no sacrifices have been made where there really need to be, like fucking server capacity for the sake of stability.
>>2532378I got in the game 3.22 so fairly new backer.Who brought me to the game tried to warn me but was a bit too vague about it so I did buy in to the hype.I've spent about 2000€ and I do regularly play.Enjoying the game is quite hard but I try. I didn't play a lot in 4.6, 4.7 due to having too much money to have any meaningful things to do.Now I'm kinda hoping id get a good excuse not to play since SC sessions end up being massive waste of time and barely enjoyable.So few things work at all and everything is a string of workarounds.
>>2532489I'll add that SC being in a sorry state is nothing compared to SQ42. I never cared about SQ42 to begin with, now that i see what our money has been wasted on... it makes me a bit sad.Additionally I am in the game industry and CIG is interesting to see since they operate like no other game studio - but at the same time it infuriates me since literally any other studio would have made a better game.
>>2532378>reddit spacing>haterJust so you know I don't engage with reddit tourists such as yourself because you are cancerous retarded faggots.>how much have you spentLmao.
>>2532378>nigger thinks you need to have wasted money after the starter pack to be a "grounded player"Its total retards like you with their head up their ass that makes star citizen look like a scam cult to everyone else, and you cant even blame them
>>2532378>I'm wondering how much money doomers like you guys put into SC ?Way too much. I still play as much as I can and have a small but active org, I was just out mining with them on Friday evening. I don't really think questioning CR's motives or believing that he might retire soon makes me a doomer, and actually I think CIG might be better off without him micromanaging everything and directing all the focus to SQ42. I think I'm just realistic about the situation at CIG but I'm also cautiously hopeful for how things will go after SQ comes out.
>>2532329>In SC lore, the verse will reach the year 3000 when CR turns 102 years old.kek too bad it's so far off, they could've waited to release the battlecruiser in the ingame year 3000 to troll the fuck out of Derek otherwise.Side note but I've always thought the game year was kinda stupid, the tech doesn't feel anywhere near 1000 years in the future level. 3-400 years tops would make way more sense. What's also funny is that one of the only things that DOES seem like it'd take many centuries - ArcCorp, where a city has taken over a whole planet and must have untold billions if not trillions of inhabitants - canonically is a very recent thing.
>>2532521I dont use reddit>>2532593I didn't say that- reread it.>>2532836agree
Are these niggas still arguing bro it has been more than 24hrs
>>2533482>reddit spacing that is only used on redditOkay tourist.
>>2534042>reddit spacing>2026Lol.
>one week ago reddit tourist comes to thread>reddit spacing everywhere>replies to himself constantly>almost 50 posts of him just talking to himselfNTA but you're definitely a normieslop tourist. Fuck off.
There is like one or two newfags who have somehow escaped the containment boards and spend their time just doing weak shitposting.
>>2534063LARPThat's not even reddit spacing. True retard
Quick guide to newfags
Anybody got any info on what what weapons can damage what ship sizes? For instance, I know s5 laser repeaters are insufficient to take down a connie. Or at least the ones I tested with. Is there a comprehensive guide on what to equip if you have, say, 2-3 fighters with s3's and you want to disable a connie?
>>2534656The only reasonable way to see it is spviewer.But in general cannons can and repeaters wont. Everyone is running deadbolts since cig cant balance to save their life
>>2534661Do you think s3 distortions would be capable of felling something like a connie, c2, or caterpillar? I'm not really sure how distortion penetration works, but I though it ignored armor and hit in a radius from contact point
>>2534642Consider that your picrel anon knows about reddit spacing, thus making them a reddit user, thus their opinion must be discarded at this point. Basically, even caring about this is reddit-tier over socialized geisha.>t. 07 lurker of boards and dramatica
>>2534667Yes, distortion doesn't seem to require very big size guns.However remember that distortion required shields to be down (on the sector you are shooting)
>>2534722Thx, I knew shields had to be down. The biggest problem for disabling a ship seems to be getting the shields down before it fucks off. I'm guessing a single mantis would never be able to pirate something like a connie solo. Speaking of.. would it be better to keep stock cannons on a mantis or to load her down with distortions if relying on other craft for stripping shields? I'm kinda thinking the stock laser cannons might be best for the mantis and let other craft handle distortions.
>>2534712I'm one of the people using "reddit" spacing and sometimes its looks like shit so in that context I understand. But I've never been to Reddit - not to mention I've been in the thread for years at this point and at 4chan I don't really remember, since /b/ was added?
>>2534732I really don't think Solo mantis will ever be a good choice. I know you'd like to be antisocial but then I would explore Cutlass Blue or the EMP fighter - both of which I dont know much about, maybe some other anon does.
>>2534741Ok I checked them quickly - and naturally for Cutty blue and EMP ships you will need to catch your prey at poi or buying/selling at outposts.So you cant pull them out of QT naturally.One thing Im thinking you could do is just evade, keep the people at mantis max range - then they cant fight back or do anything. Blackmail them, make them commit seppuku
>>2534741I'm looking to work in a group. Right now, I'm thinking at minimum, you need 3 craft for boarding. 1 mantis to pull ships out of QT then quantum dampen, 1 fighter with laser/distortions, 1 ship with cargo capacity to haul loot. It would probably be better to have 1 additional fighter with pvp metal build, maybe all deadbolts in case anything shows up that could put up a fightRight now, I'm thinking ideal lineup for a small group composition would be: Corsair with Fury in back, Mantis, and M80/Guardian, with an optional gladius or similar fighter for escort. On the mantis, do you know if you have the quantum dampener or snare engaged, does it stay on if you get out of the pilot seat? Could you hypothetically have two mantis ships present, one with the snare and one with the dampener on, with no pilots?
>>2534772The Mantis wont stay on without pilotThe thinking is sort of solid, but what are your prime targets going to be? Bobs don't need this many and if you run in to me or another capitalfag like me, you will need more.
>>2534789Also If I were to do it, I would make it a bit fun. Its very hard to make piracy profitable in the game right now (essentially only trade routes are profitable but then you have to do what traders do and stalk sctradetools, and even then its practically nobody doing it) - but you can always make it fun. Demand ransom, scan bobs and if they dont have anything - let them go with a warning.
>>2534789Mostly just doing it for fun, but my plan is to target medium/large freighters and couriers transporting gear. I'll probably have more than three players. I'll have everyone scatter if something we can't handle shows up, maybe have the mantis stay behind and hold it back until at least the loot ship escapes.Current thoughts for active heist:Loot Cargo Vessel will remain overlook after QT snare traps ship and goes down, constant radar pings afterwards while relaying info about battlefield to other pilots. Mantis fighter will switch to dampener and immediately engage target ship, along with additional fighters. After disabling the ship, fighters/mantis will blast open cargo/dock doors. Fighter pilots and mantis pilot will board and seize control of ship. Cargo ship will pull up and take enemy cargo. Cargo ship will egress and boarders will repair ship, heal enemy player, and fuck off. If they log or choose to fight back after that, we destroy the ship and relocate.
>>2534795Auroras/mustangs/avengers/etc always get the free pass, but I agree, if it's obvious they got nothin, let em go.
>>2534804Well-as we probably discussed earlier, I am not a pirate so I'm not an expect on the matter, but as pvevp player Id say your best bet could be one of these:1. sctradetools check what route is most profitable and camp that.2. keep a special eye out for any semi-exploits, they always get swarmed by people. Often related to events.3. Camp pyro / stanton gateway, I recommend Pyro. Try to position yourself in a way to bubble out as large angle as possible. You are looking to intercept people with Vanduul corpses- most of them are exploiters and all of them are veteran SC players so no mercy.As for setup:MantisObvious, stop the target - stay out of harms way.Corsair with deadbolts / Perseus / PolarisYou will inevitably catch a big fish and sometimes might want to fight them to get their juicy innards. Some people (including me) use capships for sensitive cargo. You can try distortion on them but dont forget that well placed deadbolt shots to reactor will disable the ship completely.M80 / Buccaneer / HawkYou need something that can chase down faster targets, especially to save mantis from fighters.You can switch ships and loadouts to distortion etc. if you want to board more but the basics are something along these lines I reckon.
>>2534884One thing I forgot to mention in 3. You CAN bubble Levski->Pyro gateway but thats not the intention. Vanduul corpses will be coming from different directions.
>>2534884To practise the reactor piercing, you can do for example Gillys 8 with a full deadbolt corsair or whatever your setup has. Shield Gen is a cylinder in middle rear of Polaris and the Reactor is a flat pizza on the bottom of the Polaris next to shield gen.Similarly I think you can get Idris on some intersec missions or can ask someone ingame to lend one for training.Right now the most powerful ships in the game are M80 and Perseus for solo and multicrew respectively simly cause they can shoot their way to reactors and other components.We even accidentally headshotted a pilot from one ship.
>>2534917>>2534917I maek new fred pls go
>>2534925clean slate
>>2534884>>2534889>>2534899I'll put this info to good use, fren. If you run into us, say "The bobs are big guys", to which one of us will respond "for you" and you are free to go. I'll only allow it once per server though.
>>2534656If you go to Erkul you can click "Deflection Check" (on the right, where it shows the ship's armor) and it'll show you what will and won't penetrate at a given armor health. The basic rule though is that S3 and up cannons will penetrate anything short of a cap ship, while repeaters won't touch anything bigger than a heavy fighter.
Anyone try 3D printing some ships? Dioramas would be neat.
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>>2538103I do CAD and have a printer and I was thinking of modeling up some diorama pieces and putting them online. The ships themselves are tough though, those require a totally different kind of 3D modeling and CIG have really clamped down on sharing models, they've somehow even managed to keep them off Bambu Studio where there's all kinds of other copyrighted stuff like Star Wars and Warhammer.
