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>>2568514first for Phoenix is DOA
2nd for latest retail news>https://www.playonline.com/pcd2/topics/ff11eu/detail/40288/detail.html
3rd for being psy opped into thinking about grey sweaty furry qiqirn pussy
Post the 67 promotion
How many people are playing on Auravia?
>>2568622it's old men edition not zoomer edition
>>256862667 is the median age
>>2568543There are some real weird choices going on with peenix>crafting mats don't stack. Enjoy running back and forth to Gusgen mines! This is wholesome and era!>Oh, and you can only put 21 items on the auction house at a time, so you best get comfortable with all that shit in your mog house.They seem to think this is a wonderful idea. How soon do you think they will roll it back?
>>2568625Don't know, but if I had to guess I'd say it's similar to Pegasus right now. 5. Maybe less, their website doesn't even work now. Probably pulled the plug?
>>2568684It’s supposedly to stop printing and stop fags who spend all day logging
>>2568733Can't wait to hear that this server only has a handful of crafters because nobody wants to deal with buying mats in singles. Hamfisted way of dealing with it.
>>2568684>some weird choices >newfag doesn’t realize it’s eraCrazy LARP
>>2568854>era>pop HNMspick one
>>2568859How does that stop item stacking from now being era? Use Google, learn something. Or keep LARPing I guess
honestly devs should just make everything modern but leave the cap at 75 and balance around that, instead of being inconsistent on what they keep as era
>>2568543>>2568684>>2568825>>2568859Lol these posts are all the same IP
>>2568865>uses an era as an excuse for decisions>oh but not all the decisions>"y-you're larping anon"
>>2568875It’s fine if you didn’t know item stacking was era. I forgive your ignorance. Gonna assume you think horizon is era like most newfags
>>2568854>era>all 4 mog wardrobes >nms drop rare/ex>crafting mats are unstackable because... THEY JUST ARE OKAY???>>2568870Try again
>>2568881NTA but continue to suck fatty dick, faggot.
I forget, was item limits on chocobo digging and fishing era for pre-toau?
>>2568883>>2568887Same IP again lol
>>2568904Still wrong.
>>2568902Yes added in 2005
>>2568904>+20,000 gil has been added to your phoenix beta account.
>>2568859Don’t forget mog wardrobes
Would rather have 95% era accurate with some QOL things than play on Aerec’s custom fun house that doesn’t even get updates
>>2568961>+20,000 gil has been added to your phoenix beta account.
>>2568961honestly i'd rather have a new funhouse with buffs to every job instead of aerec neglecting some jobs while overbuffing othersi liked eventide before it turned into a cliquefest with admin abuse
>>2568973That’s the problem with custom fun houses. They’re subject to the whims of whoever makes them. That is why era balance is superior
>>2568825I think you severely underestimate people's autism in wanting to be the richest.
No one will ever experience a true era again because no server has the massive amount of xenophobic japs on it.
>>2568973agreed. People can make tasteful changes to era xi which make sense and add depth to the game. Phoenix is just offering plain toast. It's bland. Although Horizon was a shitshow at least Aerec tried to make some jobs more interesting or more fleshed out. Don't bite my head off for not knowing everything about Horizon's job changes, I only know that Thief is more useful there and isn't a TH4 robot.
>>2569032Horizon is awful and only retards who never played the game enjoy it. It shits all over the era version of the game and then rapes the corpse
>>2569038>Horizon is awful and only retards who never played the game enjoy it.horizon was the first time I played XI and even i had a few questions about some changes, outright thinking some were fucking stupid by the time i was in the 70s
>>2569045It doesn’t pass the smell test yeah. It’s a huge joke and most people deal with it cause the scene is dead until something new happens
>>2569038Yeah I did not like hardcore mode or people running around in their funny haha lockstyle outfits, among many other reasons. That's why I stopped playing there and just stuck with my last private server. Still it boasts a respectable player base despite not receiving an actual update for the last 4 years.But there's still a handful of things that weren't entirely bad design choices.
>>2569071Unfortunately the retarded Aerec decision making is too much for me. I will just stick to Eden until Phoenix
>>2569032The problem with MMOs is that everyone will always play meta so nothing really changes. People just cluster on the job that's 1% better and every other job gets sidelined, let alone when the balance is so wacky like in XI. I'm not sure if it's changed but Horizon was a summoner server when I stopped playing. It was a BST server before that but BST got nerfed into the ground while SMN remained super buffed. A single Carrie was about to hold a HNM by itself before the BST nerfs, it was ridiculous.
>>2568684god DAMN I love Promyvion, what is this? private server shit? game news I don't know about?
>>2569120>The problem with MMOs is that everyone will always play meta so nothing really changes. People just cluster on the job that's 1% better and every other job gets sidelined, let alone when the balance is so wacky like in XI.Yeah sure, people like the easy road, some people will even use meta stats in solo games. Unfortunately BLM/SMN spam at HNM is not something that only exists on Horizon. This isn't so much an issue with those jobs as it is with the mechanic of TP feed in FFXI. I also now remember another reason why I stopped playing there. BSTs everywhere. >>2569156June version update for retail.>We're adding new notorious monsters that serve as the endgame for both Temenos and Apollyon
Womanhands killed star wars and private server ffxi.
Why is zenith posted in the OP? >Womanhands at play again
>>2569437Cause OP is like Alaris, Mavira, Rahne, Setsuko, Tannifae or one of the other mentally ill Zenith hags
>>2569071Horizon's HC mode is just a lazy veneer with some shit rewards.
>>2568973that's just CEXI. Most of the job balance happened after 75
>>2569038yeah that's why it's the most popular private server of all time and yours is doa, lmao
>>2569432>>2569566>>2569571samefag schizo melty strikes again. do you do anything but drop nobody names bro? first you're in here having melties about aerec, now it's back to random woman 6,12,28,19, and 7. it's so obvious when you're attempting to manufacture consensus. do you ever get embarrassed
next op image?
>>2570280Shut the fuck up random woman 6,12,28,19, or 7
>>2568904That's just aldous from horizon. Retard is actually the only person to call it peenix in search. Not very bright.
ummm I was playing on horizon and there was like these womine things in my party...? ummm, I think I'll stay on phonix with da bros where you can say nigger and poopsock to 75 again
>>2569571Very poorly done 'mode'. Playing with said people early on was terrible. >Hardcore pld joins pt>thf pulls 2 lizards>pld starts running for the hills/instant warping>>2570404Wrong again, Phoenixxer.
>>2570273Wings had to die for this shit pile to exist.
>>2570404Oh yeah. Aldous is the huge retard who begs for thf buffs daily in the discord right?
>>2571487>die on HC on Horizon-Mode goes away, no more rewards, bad language>Die on HC on CEXI-Level 1 again, sorry you're in this game mode for life, go agane.
>>2570440I hope all the cringe trannies like Alaris and Mavira stay on horizon and zenith
>a retail xi short shows up in my feed>it's a guy 6 boxing 6 galkasRepulsive.
>>2571971The galka or the six boxxing?
>>2572292Both
I'm getting the itch again, but I don't want to lose 5 years of my life to scratch it. HALP.
>>2572793do it pussy
>>2572793just remember that the community is shit and that there aren't any good servers and that square is going to neglect retail again and that you'll never get to play prime XI ever again
>>2570291lmao
>>2568684aldous still mad thief is dogshit on horizon, but thats okay, it will be dogshit on phoenix too and your autistic ass can stay on horizon. Why dont you start bitching about Kipling now?
>>2573599Not your boogeyman, brother. I would never, ever play a galka. Nor do I play on that steaming pile of shit, Horizon.
Womanhands at it again daily.
>>2569038This is the most accurate fucking statement in this entire thread. Holy shit.
>>2571971He's talking about Hegmoh. The only relevant XI creator currently. Dude has an ego on him for sure though.
Logged back in to horizon after, I dunno, a year, started fishing devil mantas and haven't hooked one against the one to two other people here for over four hours now. Actually, I did hook it once, and the client hard crashed when I engaged it. I might have a stroke.
>>2575582Rebase fucked it up and the window is now 15 minutes but good luck competing with the bots down there.
how do i datamine the new limbus music
New Limbus OST goes hard but completely blows out your speakers they need to fix the volumehttps://youtu.be/oB0YeWZJF7E?t=23decent modernized remix of the AA theme
>new limbus weps are dogshitthank god, I don't need more reasons to enter that hellhole
>>2572793Just resub then get very sick and grind while sick so much that once you get better you associate it with feeling like shit and lose your will to playJust happened to me
new limbus wepys
>>2576700they look pretty
>>2575766new songsApollyon (the better one):https://youtu.be/xeIkSr2tZtsTemenos:https://youtu.be/2uzRoTyjXBk
Why the fuck does the game not give you an airship pass until after you've already walked to all four major cities rofl
>>2571971Why are you even clicking on shorts if you're older than 17?
>>2577271Why are you playing games if you're older than 20?
>>2577344Not equivalent. Cope more, zoomer.
>>2577534Ragebait used to be good.
>>2577257if that bothers you, you're going to love the rest of the game.
The outposts are better.
Why does nippon everquest game not respect my time?
Which one of you posted this
>>2577558>gets called a zoomer>gives most zoomer response imaginablelollmao
>>2577613I didn't say it bothered me. I asked why.
>>2575433how do his balls taste? can we get a 1-10 rating and a flavor profile before you spit them out?
>>2576700they made these for the e-girls. which one of you sucked a SE employees dick? so i can send you a thank you card
>shitposting ramps up to cover the shit stench of Phoenixxer and Horizonite diapersNoticing.
>>2577651>>2577694Who are you replying to? Are you new here?
>bro doesn't even get ironic runescape posting
>>2578031That smell is the rotting corpse of horizon with no updates in 5 years
>>2577914Because once upon a time we didn't have HP warps, most people didn't know what the fuck an outpost warp was or how to unlock them, and the fastest way to get here to there was the airship pass. Port Jeuno was the Nexus, it was this place you had to cross some dangerous terrain at level 20 running through mobs that wanted to stick gross things in your ass just to get there, because it was the hub city, because level 20 was the chocobo quest level, and having the airship pass meant you could go to windurst for whatever fucking reason and not have to spend 20 minutes on a chocobo. Qufim island was Paludal caverns and/or Marus Seru kind of, this place people leveled at for whatever reason other than it was retarded and convenient. And now before i digress any more heavily, this game is full of retarded shit like this because the developers were sucking that everquest cock and wanted to make everquest but better, and final fantasy-ish
>>2578181Your taxidermy single box eden doesn't smell very good either.>'we're era!!... except for all of kipling's poorly disguised gameplay preferences, that is.'
>>2578248Horizon sucks lil bro get over it
>>2578254i know, that's why i don't play on that tranny server. glad we agree.
>>2576700>Gonna grind out more of this bullshit just to /lockstyle that sexy ass great katana
>>2578197>Because once upon a time we didn't have HP warpsOh that's really all the explanation needed.
>>2578686Really it's supposed to be an accomplishment. You don't need to make 8 characters so unlocking it once was enough. In the beginning we couldn't multibox because we didn't have a windowed mode. The game ran in alt tab = client crash mode and we could only single box in full screen.
>oh yeah... that job existsno I don't care that it's actually super good on some 'true to era' private server after a billion buffs, it will always suck. loldrg forever we HATE YOU
>>2577257Because there was no fast travel in the original game other than teleports so traveling via airship is more like unlocking a perk after you've already made the walks
>>2581571u just mad u don't get that stylin purple armor
>>2568684> Woman hands attempts to speak at the table of men.Most retarded fuckbrain comment i've seen all week.
>>2582686can you please spell it womanhands like you usually do so your asinine low iq posts get blocked from my wholesome retail xig viewing experience? thanks in advance :)
>>2582686Oop. Did wittle Phoenixxer get upset about having his brilliant 'era' idea questioned? Baby wants his bottle?Screencap this, nigga. Item stacking will be the first thing they walk back on.
>>2582097There were outpost warps, but i don't think most people really knew how they worked or how to unlock them back in the early game. None of the people I played with used them.
>>2582777Phoenix is just going to be Eden 2.0, a dual boxing shit pile DOA server. I will not be surprised if they walk back material stacking and the server has one mog wardrobe 80/80 unlocked on start.
>>2582823phoenix doesn't have dualbox
>>2577773>I love the era+ changes>I love the creatorsno one, and I really mean NO ONE, who posts ITT would say this
>>2583075I don't know. The whole loving standing shoulder to shoulder with 500 other players in dunes like jeets packed into a train sounds a lot like you guys to me.It's weird how some of you take issue with people having multiple relics on Horizon like that affects you at all. Must be envy.
>>2583131FFXI pserver lemmings would rather sit in dunes with their flag up or camp over other players in the small handful of viable dunes camps than make an exp party somewhere else. I remember in the beginning my friends and I had a static going on and we picked nonstandard camps while Valkurm dunes had 1200 turds in it packed together
ffxivtard here which is the least gay server to play on?
>>2583252Least gay? We gay as u want.
>>2583213I thought I was smart exping in bubu and meriphataud too. Except that we still weren't alone, lol. There were other parties and worse, be*****sters.>>2583252All of them have a reason why you shouldn't play there. Horizon is tranny central and still hasn't had an update for like 4 years, but has a good population.
>>2568514This years anniversary event was nice, haven't seen so many people online in a long time.
>>2583326We skipped bubu and did maze of shakrami to korroloka to rolanbees, crawlers, then back to korroloka for crabs to 25, none of us had bolts like wings so we couldn't just cheese flying camps otherwise we would have done wadi to attohwa
>>2583523Then bibiki to behemoth's dominion/zitah
>>2583075i like horizons changes to ninja and the custom camps. that's about it though
>>2583030yes it does. look at the website
>>2577960How do people wake up, get on 4chan and be this angry about someone's else's joy. Lmao. Get help.
>>2583833look at time stamps before making stupid comments like this, and take his cock out of your mouth before you speak to me
Is there any way for a low level (34) to get to the glacier for the carbuncle ruby quest?
>>2583853Lots of sneak/invis items and/or have a friend escort you through East Ronfaure > Ranguemont Pass > Glacier. Or wait until Batallia Downs has ice weather.
>>2583853go to Batallia Downs (S) and talk to the ??? by the cliff for the mandragora warp, then go back to the present area and trade a carnation i think to the ??? and it'll boof you up the cliff, then you can just walk there from Batallia downs.
how come japanese ffxi streamers get hundreds of views but western xi streams peak at like 30
>>2584072Japanese players don't function on an independent basis for the most part. Learned Japanese about 4 years ago, they're a very "team" focused people. Which brings in a lot of viewership, Japanese solidarity is something to be admired.
>>2583806the website says singlebox https://phoenix-xi.com/about
Playing with the Japanese is a scam, especially in a linkshell setting. Especially if you do dynamis with them. The retail Japanese experience was building the leader and his besties a relic with nothing to show for your time.
>>2584072It's simple. How many westerners do you know who actually care at all about ffxi? How many actual Final Fantasy fans do you know who even know there is an 11th game in the series between 10 and 12? Westerners like football and beer and country music. To a normal American, everyone here is feminine and faggy. FFXI players are an EXTREME oddity. In Japan they are not.
>>2584072>JP streamerHas a gimmick but it's mostly for the lols and identity. Is helpful but not overbearing, and they make helpful guides>west streamerIs either ""female"" or just annoying. "This is how you do it" while they are under control of an entire partyTo be honest though Japanese streamers and videos and FFXI gameplay are just leagues ahead of everything else. Because stuff like what people say will appear on the stream and cause more discussion (not just a lazy chat paste that ruins immersion), they started Vtuber stuff instead of ugly 3D, etc. I've even seed text to speech chats because chat rooms are just more civilized. Also the JP community is simply superior and always has been. The JP also had a massive advantage because of the lower ping, so they could easily carry any foreigner they wished. Simply put we all wanted to be a part of them and that's why JP ONRY always hurt so hard. We all have lingering disappointment of being left out by a vastly superior and gifted community that we'll never be a part of.
>>2584072Nippons are a gentle slow people, like elephants. Westerners are mindbroken slop slaves who consume content like locust.
>>2585783>>2585654>>2585242buckbroken and nipponpilled and dont even live there, fucking kino retards lmao
If I had a nickel for every time an actual fan of the Final Fantasy series didn't know about FF11, I'd have two nickels. That's not a lot, but you know. How even?
>>2584072>I'm going to show you secret method to cheese new content, don't tell the round eyeVs>Watch my 36 man raid struggle to fight this one boss, chaos ensues
>>2585654holy fuckin wapanese
>JPpolite friendly talking>westWHOOOOOA CHAT WILL TIAMAT SPAWN THIS TIME? GUESS NOT *WE*'LL GET IT NEXT TIME! OHHHH THAT WAS LIKE SO CRAZY CHAT IM SO SILLY!but you're a weeaboo when you point it out
There's a reason why JPonry existed and you won't like the answer.
>>2587765They want people N5 or better, but if you took the time to learn nihongo you'd inevitably understand the culture and mannerisms associated with the Japanese. NA people were known to be bad at the game, leave parties unannounced, make parties that lasted hours longer than people wanted to party, not have the sense needed to be a party member, be some DD/war with no food, etc.
>>2588869it's simpler than that, at release the NA players had worse gear, underleveled subs, and didn't use good food so there was no reason to invite them over a japanese player that would do more damage. blms, whms, rdms, and brds had no issue getting party invites even missing spells because they were in demand and not a dime a dozen like physical damage dealing jobs.
>>2588061Truly womanhands because they can’t take accountability
>>2588993JP ONRY formed significantly after NA release. Even then it was a community issue.By only partying with JP you drastically increased your quality of life as you wouldn't have to deal with ANY BULLSHIT, people randomly leaving or replacing eachother, not knowing their role, avoiding the undesirables that don't know how to use auto-translate (this gets rid of like 90% of shitters in the game), getting a tell that says "hi" and an invite, etc.
>>2587094I think it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it evident from these last few posts. Bit cringe to be honest, who are you trying to impress..?
>>2591686No one knows what you’re talking about schizo
>>2591738filter all the namedfags for a better experience on this board
>>2589903I do the same thing. I don't want to party with gearless losers unless I am also a gearless loser. Other people share this sentiment. That's why it's good to be in with the other massive surge of new players when a server begins.
>>2589903I mostly grouped with people from HK in 2004-2005, I remember everyone spoke cantonese
Legendary XI has opened. Level 99/99 - Endgame/Raid Server.Missions - Skippable Spells - Unlocked. Trust: Unlocked Homepoints: Unlocked Outpost: Unlocked. https://legendary-ffxi.pages.dev/
It's pretty funny to think that ninja is the most popular ffxi streamer
>>2594016meltieman fishing for names we can't filter :/
>>2594721Can prob filter “streamer” bc who gives a fuck about them
>>2582817I think back in the day people were just too retarded to walk out to the places to drop the supplies
>>2594963Most people just stayed in Jeuno. No reason to go back to the starting towns because they likely didn't craft or have them to a high level. Economy was ruled and fucked, depending on when you played, by RMT. No Level sync also meant you were generally leveling in areas around Jeuno anyway, or could get a tele to get to a camp.
>>2594963no, op warps were far less convenient. you had to warp from your home nation and you had to be a certain level for each zone. by the time you were high enough to warp to it you probably didn't need to go there anymore
>>2589626LMFAO. Womanhand gaslighting is their most useful tool to avoid accountability. Root of all evil behind the scenes.
>>2596186I don't remember using the OP warps that much because of this. The goblin in Jeuno is a nice QoL on PS, but I don't remember hanging out in starter cities until ToAU came out on retail.
i played a bit of horizon, holy fuck its slow. i dont miss this shit at all. and nobody fuckin talks. is it gonna get better or should i go to retail?
>>2597924retail is better for your ADHD zoomer brain but it's even deader
>>2597972grim
>open twitch>look at xi streams>retail alexander fight, playing with trusts>nippon farming orange behemoth with trusts>catseye streamer.. playing with trusts>see a new player stream>oh cool this guy is doing bastok missions>speaks to naji>it's the fucking quest to learn to summon trust naji
>>2597924god talking people are so annoying, this isn't myspace gtfo
>>2598077>Opens twitchThere's your first mistake
>>2597924Horizon and retail are both full of bots. Nobody actually plays FFXI anymore.
>>2594963Back before level sync people only used them for fishing and crafting and nobody did conquest.
As a new player, is it possible to find people to group with outside of endgame, or is it basically just playing with trusts up until then? I tried the free trial for retail several years back, and it was a charming game in many ways, but it was almost completely empty, and the few people I did encounter were running trusts.
>>2598773>grouping before endgamenot happening unless you specifically ask for help with something (nothing requires help)>emptymight have changed in the last year or two population across most servers has seen a good bump so you'll see plenty of people in the major towns and zones you just won't have a reason to interact with them at all yet. but talking to people is what linkshells are for
>>2577773Funny enough, Horizon's huge pool of fast-respawning level-1 mobs in the front of starter zones was one of the most fun things for me. I hate scheduled end game events and HNM camping. So, anything solo is immediately interesting. Grinding, collecting data on drop rates and kill speed, and optimizing my routine were all way more fun than what else I could have been doing in-game. The rewards for all those seals were also fun. Grabbing randoms for a 3-man BCNM was a lot better than sitting through a 4 hour Dynamis or Sky farm where you're gearing up people you've just met in huge groups.I'd like a server focused on getting you to team with randoms for lowman content.
>>2597924You missed the window for everyone being forced to make friends by like 4 years. If you're not playing on a fresh private server, you're better off on retail.
>>2599626lvl1 seal farming was the opposite of efficient, it was pissing on the spirit of era by destroying conquest, ruining interaction with other people, destroyed actually taking part of the economy because 'I'll just get seals anyway' and so much more. Unironically you are the type of people and BST bandwagoners that ruined Horizon, and made doing anything but shitty dynamis and endgame impossible. and you don't even realize it. aerec did a good thing removing it but I still don't get how BST ever was as strong as it was, it just shows how endgamelards don't even play the game
>>2599847The endgame isn't fun. It's a job. Seal farming was a solo grind that lead to grouping with randoms, which feels more in spirit of adventuring than scheduled linkshell events. Additionally, I had more fun helping randoms on quests while was farming than any endgame "content". Meet, chat, kill some mobs, get them their drop, escort them to the door they need to get to. BST should be strong. Being able to play at any time and make some progress is good. They promised a rework 3 years ago and never touched it since.People's hatred for pet jobs is funny, because they would rather use other players as their pets.
>>2599895And this is why custom servers are bad. You’re subject to the whims of Aerec
>>2599847Welp get ready for more seal farming on PXI where camps just barely above 50 and etc will be destroyed by people fishing for KS to get pop items for KS99 HNMs!
>>2600366Except the 5 minute timer will be enforced. Try again
>>2599895people hated bst on horizon because the bsts kept leveling in the same leveling zones as everyone else instead of going to bst zones. and it's easier to hate just 1 person than it is an entire group of people because it's solely on that guy being an asshole and deciding he's going to level his bst in the dunes because the dunes is all he knows..
>>2600635BSTs mogging all the common camps, the bat in Ranperres tomb dropping 5k Gil repeatedly, and bots farming made me quit horizon years ago
>>2600650This never happened
>>2599895horizon BST #not my BST.>explol just throw 5 bst at it>questslol just throw a sheep at it>missionlol just throw a sheep at it>coplol just throw 5 bst at it>bcnmlol just throw 3 bst at itit's not even hate, it's objective fact. BST was the meta for the really weird people that just had to have PCC after being naked and spending 5k on pets and shit instead of just actually cooperating and working for gear
>>2600661there were bots farming black tigers for their fangs for the repeatable among other things in carpenters for example. it was a real thing.
>>2600690I meant the bat thing. Bots happen in literally every game ever made
>>2600772it did though. One placeholder bat kept dropping 5k and some Gil and it was exploited because the devs mistakenly forgot to take it out for a bit
>>2599721retail is the same, and it sucks ass
>>2600791You made this up. You probably believe AI videos on Facebook too
>>2599847Except it was efficient. It's far more efficient if you're chasing a PCA than typical levelling. The main downside is the retards who do their downleveling in Buburimu before conquest. This MMO may have a large emphasis on team play, but it isn't absolute.>you are the type of people who ruined horizonhorizon ruined itself>>2600378You think this will stop seal farming? It won't, lol. You have just forced seal farmers from active into passive farming. Whereas before they could zone or relog to reset their CD, they will now set a 5 minute timer and tab out. Congratulations, people are now playing your game less. This goes well with your other 'Tedium to the maximum' era changes.
>>2599895> Would rather use other players as pets.This hits deep.
>>2599847Aerec was the one that let the server become BST dominant. Are you retarded?
>>2600635> The BST zones.Most retarded comment i've seen all week.
ive been keeping track of phoenix prs and theres been like 40 pup prs... was it really that fucked up?
>>2601653Pretend I said camps instead, you know what I meant. BST has access to camps that parties generally don't touch.
>>2601690Pup was a really hard class to get right. Eden's pup is the closest we had to the old pre buff behaviorisms, and CEXI's pup is retail-lite.
>>2601690Yes.
>>2601653BSTs can level while farming, basically skip all of the party shit and farm to 75, I did it on Eden. If we had shadow reign areas I'd never leave those places are all money. On Wings I'd solo bst and sell KS99 orbs every month plus whatever I farmed. I just sat in Sauromugue Champaign s and killed lynxes on bst and pup and capped leather working on the amount of money I made crafting capes.
>>2600378The 5-minute timer isn't going to mean shit when several people are trying to farm KS seals for 99 orbs.
>>2601723>go outside town>all the areas with level 55-65 mobs have players standing around>every 5 minutes or so they murder a few mobs then go back to afking>they will be here days, because lord Kipling decreed that thou shalt not easily farm thy sealsMeanwhile>'we're unstacking the ores to ease congestion in certain areas'
I’ll still take Phoenix’s proposed settings over horizon slop any day of the week
Hmm. What if both of these servers are run by fucking retards who just do whatever they want and neither of them deserve your time investment?
>>2601981I’m still gonna play on Phoenix cause it looks good
Horizon was made by people who mutinied from Wings. Phoenix is being made by people who mutinied from Horizon. What's to say the rats won't fuck everything up and flee the ship again?
>>2602046We will go back to nasomi
>>2602046They won't, trust me this time it's different!
>>2602046Wings died for this shit pile of a server. We could have had working WoTG missions by now. What do thes developers have to show for 5 years of Horizon besides another shit pile of a server? >C'mon guys this time will be better guy, yeah -Aerec, probably
>>2600675Aerec made the enrage timer longer for grand wyrms so people could try alternate strategies besides throwing avatars at them and people continued to throw avatars at them.
I choose open source and 75 era without custom slop and 4 relics per tranny. Aerec single-handedly set the private server scene back a decade to profit from a big streamer.
>>2602542Tiamat, Vrtra, and Jormy didn't have enrage timers, we've held and killed Tiamat for over 10 hours before on retail back in 05
>>2602046Yeah that’s Aerec’s fault. They had to start another project cause he refused open source like they were supposed to. Hate to break it to you but your beloved Aerec is a bad guy and has done huge damage to the private server scene
>>2602584If lord Aerec says they do then they do! His vision of balance is better than era and we must all gargle his balls without question because we’re afraid of losing our investment into our characters on horizon
>>2602584Yeah, he made it 2 hours instead of 1 hour on PS, but all it did was enable the Arab linkshells able to actually kill Vrtra.
>>2602614It never was 1 hour to begin with they NEVER had enrage timers you fucking retard
>>2602614It took my linkshell with 12 geared summoners 2 geared pld/nins, bards, whms, rdms about 10 hours to take Tiamat down the old way, idk how you're killing it in 2 hours except with a death zerg of drks with ridill/kclubs.
>>2602625On private servers. Right back atcha you fucking retard.
>>2602116No, Eden and Wings!!
>>2602542>do dynamis or you get content that involves throwing pets at a monsterfucking grim
>>2602046I worked on Horizon and Aerec treated at times like literal human garbage. I don't know why everyone just refuses to accept the guy drove away most contributors...
>>2602759Doesn't matter because in the end they're now an open-sourced contributor and shitheads like Aerec are still winning.
>>2602774He isn’t winning. His server is slowly dying and they can’t take contributions from open source anymore. Considering Aerec refuses to do any work it’s only a matter of time until the one guy he has left calls it quits and he’s stuck forever. Horizon will end the same way as Nasomi
>>2602788Yes this is true. If you look at their bug report section you can see that they are still working experiencing bugs fixed 6 months ago on LSB
>>2602774I don't think they are winning. The bug reports are often filled with issues fixed a long time ago on LSB. They have already forked and the issues are piling up,,, Phoenix/LSB is burying them in tons of commits they can't pull. If this is what winning looks like for Horizon, I can't wait to see losing.
>>2602542>nerf blm threat>everyone uses smns insteadI mean, it's a problem of own making.
>>2603157Oh, and of course no one is going to experiment on an enemy that can take 5 days to spawn. Not only will every other HNMLS make fun of them if their strategy doesn't work, but if they lose the claim and the other LS gets gaiters, the demoralization would be insane with how pissy and dramatic the HNM community is. No one is going to do something risky when HNMs are the most high stakes scenario on Horizon.
I'm happy Horizon is coming to an end. I'm ready to move on to other games, so I'll thank Phoenix for killing it, even though I won't be playing there.
>>2603621That’s what they all say. Everyone said they wouldn’t play on horizon too
>>2603732Just think about all the time you'll be investing into another server that's going to get shuttered when the devs decide they can't stand one another anymore. God just give me three more years on this earth so I can waste it playing the same fucking server I wasted the last 9 years of my life playing. Oh joyous occasion, a new server, yippie Dee Dee, the same as the old server, but this time without Gweivyth I mean Aerec, it's gonna be so rad. All these policy decisions that set it apart from Horizon will surely be worth the next 3 years of my life as I NEETmaxxx and no life the shit out of it right
>>2604080I don’t care I play video games for fun. If it’s not fun I’ll go to another server. Horizon is mismanaged and sucks now so I’ll play on Phoenix
one nostalgic private server is enough
>>2604209Horizon isn’t anything like era though
>>2604209bro there's gonna be a NEW server and it's gonna have all NEW same old private server bullshit but it will have all NEW old nigger speakers but it will have all NEW ways to fall behind the terminally online endgamelards that have done the pserver grind for the past 10 years but it will have all NEW generic HNM and dynamis endgame grind but it will have all NEW one item added to a BCNM
Holy shit you're all insufferable. Go play on retail or whatever trash server you think is better then. No one is forcing you to play on Phoenix. Stop being a whiny little bitch.
>>2604814I thought 4chan exists so you can be an anonymous whiny little bitch.
What's it like on Eden nowadays? Can I start fresh there? I do not give a single care about dualboxing only if people are friendly enough.
>>2604947Eden is dead just wait for Phoenix
>>2604814Horizon retards always get defensive like this
I <3 retail
I don't <3 anything or anyone I just play final fantasy
>Doing the math in my head for how much gil I'd need to make my REMA + armor setholy shit no wonder people buy gil
>>2602759But you should have stayed on the team and endured his abuse. Just so people on 4chan can't say you jump ship all the time. Stay with your abuser to prove you're loyal!
I just want a decent wotg server...
>>2604947It's quiet but not completely dead yet. We're mostly just uncs who have completed the game and log in to shoot the shit with our friends at this point. The only pros about playing here are that rich uncs will pay top dollar for behemoth hides and dingots and will also just give you loot from things that they don't need when they do them.Leveling here fresh would be a pain in the ass unless you chose high demand jobs like bard or cor. There are new players here, just not a lot of them.
https://discord.com/channels/933423693848260678/1516396133092687903Another Horizon bug fixed on LSB over two months ago, reeeeeeebased
>>2604814>>2605025>stop criticising the thing I am trying to shill waaahMelty indeed. Take your own advice and gain some thicker skin lol
the pheonix shilling melty man will never grow thicker skin, he will continue ruining this thread with his temper tantrums daily until he finally offs himself when he realizes womanname will never return his affections and he will die a khhv
>>2606522Just filter his key words and he will disappear.
>>2604415Break out the poop socks and empty the piss jugs boys it's meth and taco bell, 75 or bust
>>2605401I just want a decent 90/95 cap Abyssea era server with a healthy, stable population.
I keep DCing when i change zones in Horizon, anyone knows what could be the problem?
>femcel words and abbreviations flooding the thread Womanhands just couldn’t stay away I guess
>>2607011I shit you not that has been a problem since server launch 3.5 years ago
>>2607724Horizon hasn’t really made any progress since it launched yeah
you mean after all that Iroha still fucking DIES?
>>2608902You can't kill a Phoenix she just comes back with red hair and big boobs and a sweet spear
>>2606719half the thread is hidden now lol
what's the point in Phoenix? Why are they remaking a server concept that already exists?>new club, Aerec not invited>posted no women allowed
>>2609299Yea but you don’t have to see the lunacy anymore.
>>2609315Because era single box doesn’t exist until Phoenix comes out
"era"
No era
>>2609376You guys arguing over this are fucking retarded, every server has some changes and isnt truly era. If you don't like what Phoenix is doing don't play there, they arent twisting your arm. People usually cite popped HNMs, but the reality is a majority of systems on Phoenix will be much closer to era than many on Horizon.
Uh oh melty!
>>2609404Yeah compared to every other server it is era and if something is 95% era then having a melty over it not being 100% era is just retarded lol. Phoenix and Eden are era, horizon and catseye are custom
>>2609404People think they want true era, but they don't.
I want to kiss a girl once in my life
>>2609738Shut the fuck up Winter.
>>2609592Weren't forced spawn kings after wotg? How is that era?
>>2610010That's the 5%
>>2610014That's a big 5% for this era. That's like saying trusts only amount to 5%.
>>2610015Not even close. Having 3 HNMs of many be pops in an era where einherjar exists is much smaller than completely undoing the party based leveling system 75 cap was built on
>>2610096>3 HNM of manyArguably the three most iconic HNM of this eraAutistic retards will be farming a third to half of a Wyrm/Fafnir every day. When they get bored of that or can't sell the items they will switch to Chlevnik/Behemoth. These HNM won't be rare anymore they will be commodities to be bought and sold.People will probably be geared with HNM items before they are even eligible to fight Odin, lol.
>>2610156The drop rates are low (5%) so no this won’t be happening. Look at the code sometime. There won’t be login points and Th 12
>>2610698its time for the whole linkshell to just hand em over so DiggusBickus the galka paladin can get his droopy D ring and then we can do dynamis spam for 45-150 hours and hand those over too, and also the entry fee, so DiggusBickus the galka paladin can get his aegis and we can finally just kill anything because our tank is a brick shithouse of a man with tiny little legs
>>2610741Don’t join a linkshell with retarded loot rules? Not sure what to tell you on that one lil bro
Are there niggers in this game?
this game was pretty progressive actually most of the races have varying shades of brown skin its pretty much just humes that are white. I guess galka but they're more pale grey than a real white person
>>26106985% (rare) is 8% with th4 retard. orb farming is massively more scalable. Everyone above 50 is collecting seals nigga.
>>2610763Mithra, or miggers as I like to call them, are the brown race. The Taru (White male race) even bought them for slave work
>>2610837Well Mithra are covered in fur, have the charisma of a real cat (with the fish and wet fur smells). So of course they're savages. Mithra are also not very adept at the Tarutaru magicks they teach in the schools.
>>2610156"People will get geared for actually playing the game instead of standing around in one spot for three hours". Oh noooo whatever shall we do? Eden exists with it's 30 real players if you care about timed kings so much.
>>2610828I can tell you haven’t done the math at all. Nidhogg will be much less common on Phoenix then it will be on Horizon. But that makes sense since Horizon is a baby mode server
>>2610951Bait used to be good.>>2610949>actually playing the gameIs a weird way of saying idling in Boyahda tree on BST waiting for their 5 minute seal timer to expire, for probably hours a day, lmao. No one actually needs this gear either. It's always been a status item. But little timmy doesn't like that. Little timmy wants to be special too..!! But without the competition or the investment. Suddenly the status items aren't so rare, nor did they really make a difference in his damage output. Little timmy ruined a good thing so he could have shinies that aren't so shiny any more.
>>2611002Are you trying to pretend things are rare on horizon where windows are 1 hour long and drops are 100%? LMAO
>>2611043>nigga keeps defaulting to horizonI did not play there. You may have, troon, but stop equating that to the era xi experience.
>>2611064Sure you didn't buddy. Calling your beloved Horizon era is like saying a tranny such as yourself is a woman. Cope and suicide
Phoenix staff when you question their server, everybody. Can't follow a conversation. Shit on the board and declare themselves the winner.
Being accused of playing on Horizon borders on defamation. I wish I kept the screencaps of the staff crying about clown emojis.
>>2611107Go kill Gurfurlur in east sarutabaruta lil bro, we're talking about era here. don't forget to do your dailies and suck aerec's cock (i know you'd do that one for free tho)
>>2611158>we're talking about era hereIt's always funny getting lectured about 'era accuracy' by someone defending a server built from a selective mix of era mechanics, modern conveniences, and custom design choices. Your server is two steps removed from Trust magic, lil gup.
>>2611268Oh hey Tyflow. No wonder you’re so butthurt lmao
>>2611283Do you just throw a dart at a list of opinionated FFXI players and accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being one of them? Because you keep missing, kiddo. How many darts do you have left?
>>2611294Mad that I got it right first try Tyflow? Guess your plan to be an anonymous faggot failed
>>2611301Shut the fuck up Thris.
>>2611309Do you just throw a dart at a list of opinionated FFXI players and accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being one of them? Because you keep missing, kiddo. How many darts do you have left?
>>2611002"Yeah but that BST will get geared for actually playing and killing mobs"I'm falling to see the issue here. Do you prefer people stand around waiting for a window every 30 minutes instead of 1% of the population standing around waiting to kill a mob every 5 minutes?
>>2610837Tarutarus are just elvaan but squished up real tiny by gravity magic and through a cruel twist in fate we're never allowed to grow taller and their limbs are all tiny and fucked looking. Also their heads got bigger in the process. Some think an elvaan fucked an acorn to make it happen but that's just silly.
>>2611332No I want rare, unneeded gear to stay rare. It's only little timmy HNMlets who get their panties in a twist over this. HNM is optional content. Chasing BiS is a choice.It will be funny watching barely geared BSTs on your server running around in adaman hauberks, though. lmao.
>>2611353This ain’t horizon lil hip. BST is trash in era. Guess you don’t know that though
>>2611353All gear in the game is "unneeded" other than weapons. This argument is pretty useless when you talk about how needed a specific piece of gear is.
>>2611408You could probably finish the game with 6 naked blms. that's not the point retard. when everyone has a [insert rare item] it is no longer rare. it is a cereal box toy.I noticed Lord Kipling also wants account restrictions on entering dynamis. Must not have liked watching people farm their relic weapons so quickly on Horizon, huh? Add it to the 'tedium to the max' list.
>>2611581He was always the not retarded horizon admin so makes sense
>>2610763I've seen 4 black streamers, so yes.
>>2611309Bleh, two new namefagged to add to the list...
>>2611581Horizon is pretty quickly approaching retail mindset where you need a relic just to be considered certain damage dealing roles in some linkshells. If you don't see why thats problematic for a 75 era server then i guess youre just retarded. also doing dynamis is aids, restricting it is based, force people to do other shit
>>2611793Retarded Horizon trannies are retarded, we know. If you were smart, you wouldn't play there. Besides, Jews who check your gear to decide if you're worth inviting exist everywhere.>We should let everyone have all the gear so everyone is on equal footing and I can join a linkshell with all the servers top sweats as a DD and not be asked to switch to bard!Go to FF14, you'll like it.>do other shitThat's like asking someone who earns 300k at their job to pick up Pottery as a side hustle. I guarantee you will have niggas double dipping. Probably staff. Especially so since you are so intent on fucking over digging, fishing and crafting.
>>2611985>fucking over >using era limitsHorizon zoomers who don’t know ball are so tiring
>>2611985I'll bite. What exactly is Phoenix doing to ruin digging, fishing and crafting? 100 items dug up per day is the actual retail limit. Not only that, it still represents probably the most efficient 15-20 minutes of gil making you can do.200 Fish, is also the retail limit - and in general takes hours to hit...Crafting? Sure, unstackable items make crafting a little harder, as does accurate break rates, but if anything this rewards those who push through it more.Have you ever actually sat down and thought about the dog shit that comes out of your mouth?
>>2612085They don’t know what era is. Thats it. They think horizon is era. They don’t realize it’s a bastardized version of the game made up by some fake game designer
>>2612085>>2612093>20 cents has been deposited into your phoenix accountChocobo digging and fishing limits were implemented to curb RMT and bots. They were and still are entirely 'fuck the actual players' changes.>Crafting? Sure, unstackable items make crafting a little harder, as does accurate break rates, but if anything this rewards those who push through it more.Okay you're actually stupid. Why didn't you just start with that instead of deepthroating your new pet project. Enjoy your tedium maximum server bro. Remember to log in for your daily quest of 100 chocobo digs. Enjoy running back to town every 5 minutes because you've run out of inventory room, only to find you have no space left on the auction house. LOL.You spend so much time focusing on 'Economy' you fail to realize that no one really gives a fuck.
>>2612167Horiniggers still busy deep throating Aerec’s era minus micro penis they don’t know items not stacking is era. Take the cock out of your throat for 5 seconds and use google
>>2612174Two boxing and doing dynamis on multiple characters is also era, cockgoblin.
>>2611581restricting dynamis farmers with 3+ characters is objectively a good thing because it prevents the market from being flooded.
>>2612185So is paying a fee and buying two copies of the game retard. That’s why you never did it, your mommy probably didn’t give you enough good boy points
>>2612198Woah woah woah. Wait a minute. I thought you were all for people 'playing the game' earlier when you backed forced spawn HNM? Now you're against it? You do know forced spawn HNM is going to flood the market with Behemoth hides, Dragon hearts, ect, right?>>2612206I had a thing called a 'job' where I was paid to sit on my ass for 90% of my shift. I miss that job. My first alternate account was from a friend who quit.
>>2612224>Wait a minute. I thought you were all for people 'playing the game' earlier when you backed forced spawn HNM? Now you're against it? You do know forced spawn HNM is going to flood the market with Behemoth hides, Dragon hearts, ect, right?this is my first post on this matter but if you can't see the difference between dusk gear and relic weapons then i dunno what to tell you.
>>2612224You are rapidly same fagging on 4chan in 2026. Let’s be honest, you have never held employment. That is why you anonymously schizo post about free private servers
>>2612237Your demoralizing shitposting won't work on me. Infact, it feels like you're projecting yourself onto me. Something you would like to share, friend?>>2612236Very low effort post.
>>2612276>Very low effort post.ironic when you have no actual response
I can accept relic armor, PCC, leaping boots, +1 shit etc everything being everywhere, but ridill?? Erm, some items are supposed to be rare
nothing better than coming back and finding a piece of gear missing and searching every fucking bag for the piece of shit and then going to the upgrade npc and finding they were holding the upgraded piece for you for months
>>2611301>>2611309are these the new egirls? are they sexy? preferably female?
>>2610837humes are literally the only race with pale skin and they are quite obviously asian so to say the little brown baby men are the "white race" is, well, lmao. (you know, beyond the abject retardation needed to extrapolate earth races into vana'diel)
>>2612345>'I'm okay with these items being flooded'>'I'm NOT okay with these items being flooded because someone might finish a relic weapon sooner and they might do good damage fighting kirin or something'>'Uhm dusk glove vs relic weapon? xD the relic is stronger!'That's what you sound like, dummy.>>2613226Yeah, you get it. Enjoy your 'let me run down to the ridill shop to buy a ridill' server.>relic armor, PCC, leaping boots, +1The only actual rare item listed here is PCC before it was added to BCNMs. Leaping Boots are a noob trap you should consider uninstalling if you paid or camped those, lmao.
These are all interesting reasons to play or not play on Phoenix. But the real reason to avoid it is that it's run by Kipling.
>>2614382The real reason to avoid it is it's a continuation of the same shitty policies which sunk Horizon. Same shitty devs. oh but look this time it's FRESH. a fresh pile of shit to wallow in.
Classic era fresh without the HNM faggotry sounds amazing. Devs going open source and drama trannies avoiding the server is a good sign
>>2614375there is already alternative ways to receive behemoth hides such as the quest in tavnazia every week which can give one. there is no other way to print dynamis currency, you are comparing apples and oranges.
>>2614382that's what that dude looks like? no wonder he's crashing out about sentooku whatshername, woman hands, eceleb#6 in here daily.
>>2614811>it's the trannies and wamin that destroy the server!>the devs who exploded 5 other servers with their internal drama were just manipulated by evil trannies!>surely this time will be different! because prebans or something!
>>2614811Yes the drama loving HNM trannies will all stick to horizon which is perfect
>>2615050All those devs hated each other previously but I guess came together to defeat the greater evil.
>>2615154Think you mean no one wants to deal with Aerec and his horrendous decision making
We already have an alternative to Horizon that doesn't suck.
>>2615162Hate is one of the greatest motivators, yes.
>>2615174Phoenix doesn’t come out until September>>2615379You MFs are so binary. You can disagree with something and want to do your own thing. It’s clear they wanted to do something open source and based on transparency. Horizon is based on mystery.
Just play where you have fun, I don't know why you faggots gotta make a big deal about where people play all the time.
>>2615433CatsEye already mogs Phoenix.
>>2615983i need to validate myself so that i don't feel like i wasted 4,000 hours of my life on a private server that no one will care about in 2 years.
>>2615989you can believe whatever you want but they're vastly different servers in the first place
>>2615989I don’t want to play Mickey Mouse FFXI custom shit I want era
>>2616807You're playing mickey mouse easy shit either way. All era servers are custom shit.
>>2617003Saying servers like Phoenix and Eden are anywhere in the same ballpark as mega custom shit like Cuckseye is a stretch but you already know that. Nice try though
>>2602542lol
>>2618265NOOOOOO BUT WHAT ABOUT MY MELEE YOU CANT JUST SMN EVERYTHING
>>2615983No one cares except Horizon shils. The existence of any other server upsets them. Cult like behavior
>>2614375>Leaping Boots are a noob trap you should consider uninstalling if you paid or camped those, lmao.well LARPed friend! have you and your LS planned your lvl1 starting gear grind on Phoenix yet?
special announcement from the Horizon team: We unfortunately have to delay ToAU for the 7th and 1/2 time to rebalance HNMs and Dynamis again. Please understand that this is very important.
>>2620149Can we all be real? TOAU is never coming out on horizon
>>2620149this is a meme right? there's no way they delayed it again.
FFXI is the best goon game, autorun and goon comps on a second monitor make questing so fun. my chair has a footrest too, so i sit criss cross while smoking weed and pumping my gock.
>>2617783Millimetres or miles. you are playing a facsimile. it will never be the same experience as the real thing when it was current.So join Phoenix, spend hundreds of hours to go through every mission, every story and event you've already done so you can watch PLDs with Excalibur solo DD Cerberus with Atonement. Need melee DD? SAM with Hagun. HNM? Still BLM and SMN armies. Bard still mandatory for just about everything. NIN and MNK might as well not exist. PUP BLU BST still niche jobs no one takes seriously. THF? Treasure hunter slut. WHM? worse healer than RDM unless you need Stona. Your linkshell wants to do sky today? Too bad, Turbo autists already cleaned it out 20 minutes ago.You are gassing up the worst balanced most time demanding era in ffxi history lmao. With negative QoL on top of it.
>>2620587For me, it's face 2a Hume F.
>>2621293t. Spicyryan
>>2568514Is it a good time to give the game a try if you've never touched an mmo before? how's the new player experience? Should i wait for one of the upcoming private servers to start up or can i just run in and give it a whirl?
>>2621514If you want QoL and to blast through the story, go to retail.If you want the old man MMO experience go to Horizon. Despite their problems they still have a massive population.
>>2621514If you want to experience all the story content and be able to play most of the game solo, play retail. If you want to experience the old version of the game where it’s social and you need to play with others to do things, Phoenix (private server) launches in September
>>2615983its like 1-2 pheonix devs samefagging the hell out of the thread over and over to advertise or cope with the fact that no one cares about open source / era accuracy / ecelebs as much as they do
>Just wait 3 months for me to beta test my shitty Eden clone bro! You'll enjoy it we have unstackable crafting mats!>It definitely won't be launching with a thousand bugs and missing content.. haha.
Just got back from barracks for 3 months of straight vidya and gooning but Fishing Bot no longer works on CatsEye or Horizon? I have the "new files" but both servers "Failed to find fishing rod to equip"Is it over?
>>2621828Horizon same fag
>phoenix samefag>horizon samefagYou niggers are gay please log off
The schizophrenic is pointing fingers at ghosts again..
I will be leveling bst on phoenix and making everyone's lives a living hell btw. You wanted chain 3? Too bad, that's my lizard now.
>>2624869>he thinks BST will be good on Phoenix Oh sweet summer horizon child
>>2624891>He isn't banking a million kindred seals for the Wyrm/Faf/Hogg gold rushngmi
>>2624928>not doing that while soloing as blmrookie
>>2624998>can kill one mob every 2 minutes>forced to play taru/humenehhhh
>>2625034you can only get a seal every 5 minutes, what's the matter?
>>2625045>what's the matter?seals are not guaranteed drops. if you need 2min per mob you are averaging 6 seals an hour
>>2622328>tags a single postwhy yes... i am the same person who made that (1) post.., how astute
if the penis server deletes bst not only will i play but i will tell my vast army of simps that hoe-rizon suxxx
>>2624869I play bst/whm with FR gear and exclusively kill goblins. If I'm feeling like a dickbutt I'll go somewhere where NPCs party and take 1-2 of the mobs out of their pool. You think garlaige citadel sticks now, wait until I grab all the bats and have them fight each other. Hope you like beetles and your shit no food eating party will take 8 minutes to get 200 exp.
> horizon faggot complains that ppl namefag all day> same faggot becomes namefaggot when phoenix mentioned>schizofaggot tells namefaggot that namefaggot is Aerecs cockholster> cockholster faggot gets mad and shamefags phoenix faggot by namefaggoting KiplingIs this it?
>>2611353Horizon players have been merc selling rare gear nonstop to all players for the past 3 years straight lil bro.
>>2626355>>2626430There is no point trying to reason with sunk cost horizon shills. All they know is no TOAU, run dynamis 6 times a week, do their weeklies, suck Aerec’s cock and lie
>>2602981Eden does not have all of these problems that horizon has. Why is that?
>>2626440Eden is running some old fork of Topaz while everyone else is on LSB
>>2626440>>2626456Eden runs on a Russian copy of DSP from 2018. They have been forked for almost a decade
>>2626476I thought they said they went to topaz, but it's been maybe 4-5 years for me
>>2621372same and me on pservers. if you see me 99% of the time I'm high and gooned out
>>2626430Only a Phoenix staff member could think this is a good response. >'First, compare to Horizon because that's the only frame of FFXI I understand' >'Second, create dogshit argument that doesn't actually address points'Whoever is paying you should find better lackeys. Merc groups exist everywhere and whether or not a ridill is sold to randoms or earned with DKP does not impact its rarity. There is one chance to see a ridill every day on most era servers. Your pet project would see people spawning Fafnir far more, which will result in more ridills.Did you follow that or do you need some pictures with bright colors?>>2626436>$.20 has been deposited into your phoenix account
>>2626988Good work soldier, no one suspects you are expertly carrying out Aerec’s orders to disparage all non-Horizon projects >a promise of TOAU on 12/24/2024 has been deposited in your account
>>2626988> Only retarded womanhands would try to type this up as a rebuttle.Rarity decreases due to people farming content they can sell to other players that can't or don't want to farm it themselves. With horizon having a 4 year content drought, players are driven to sell everything under the sun. > Exactly why womenhands deserve lower salaries.
>>2626456>>2626476Should horizon copy Eden's work instead of copying Phoenix's work?
>>2627813They can’t. Eden isn’t open source
>>2627789>rebuttleOpinion discarded. I'm not even going to read it.>>2627192Horizon really lives rent free in your head, huh? Trannies really did a number on you.
>>2628136Good rebuttal bro but for how much ninja and Aerec are paying you that should be better >5 imperial standing have been deposited in your horizon account
Ridill will still be just as rare on my forced spawn HNM server bros trust me>camera pans to linkshell killing their 17th fafnir today
>>2628616>he genuinely believe ridill is rare on a server where fafnir pops daily and has an enhanced custom drop rate
>an item that is created on average once every 20 days is not rare bros xDDD what u smoking>still going on about horizonmindbroken
HNM fags are so mentally ill they poop their diapers over theoretical ridills on servers they claim not to care about
on retail whats like the maximum amount of jobs you can fit gear for in 8 lockers? I wanna try and plan out what jobs to gear strategically
>Muh rarity>You can't farm pop items you have to X in for windows!>You can't get a ridill from Nyzul that doesn't count!Retards will lose sleep over this
>>2630257Depends, there’s some gear overlap for certain jobs. I have 9 jobs pretty much fully geared minus a few pieces and niche sets I cba to make and I am full. I think items like Null Shawl eliminate alot of the JSE Ambu capes so that frees up a few slots for tp capes
>>2628136Who cares you dont matter and no one truly loves you anyway anon. Discard your life anon LMFAO.
>>2627813Ah so horizon is rebasing to copy someone elses work since Eden closed them out?
>>2630533They tried to but LSB updates and improves so quickly they already need another rebase to take any more updates. Thats why issues that have been fixed for months on LSB are still bugged on horizon
>>2621293>You are gassing up the worst balanced most time demanding era in ffxi history lmao.The COP era is literally worse balanced than ToAU though.
>>2630922They have to suck COP cock cause that’s all they’ll ever know on horizon
>>2630621Wow horizon sounds fucked long and short term
>>2631102Yep. When a new server or servers comes along and steals any attention they will probably go the way of Nasomi
phoenix team starting work on LSB right in the middle of Horizons rebase was honestly the worst thing that could have happened to them, they are extremely fucked going forward. i know its a meme but they really do need another rebase
>>2631158What will all the horizon players do when they realize they are eternally stuck in sunk cost fallacy?
>>2631240Im going to prepare my Phoenix main char.
>>2631256If they haven’t realized it by now they may never realize it until their server population violently declines once Phoenix and Zenith both launch this year
when will pheonix server devs go program their server instead of spam shilling it on here :( i don't care :( none of us care about your beefs or your exes or your ex best friends :( >now watch them violently schizopost about how i'm (exgf/aerec/horizon player/etc)
>>2631360Why is this guy so mad all of a sudden?
>>2631360you good brother?
Their update progress is public https://phoenix-xi.com/dev-tracker
>>2628793except ridill doesn't have a custom drop rate
> womanhands tried to debate a non-healing topic today> womanhands was quickly corrected and mansplained into oblivion>womanhands returned to healing channel where they belong.Lol
>>2632097It does. It’s been increased to 5%. You sound stupid when you say this without verifying lmao
>>26321715% unaffected by th sounds fair. just a toy/trophy anyway, not even bis for farming trash.
>>2630949>>2630922Literally mentioned PUP and BLU in that post, try reading. The difference between those eras is not significant. I do not play on the tranny containment server and haven't since the month it launched. A shame most of you invested thousands of hours there and can't seem get it out of your heads.>>2630529He's rattled lol ^^>>2632171Your argument only works when you compare to horizon. It's all you have, lmao. No argument just>but.. muh horizon..mind and buck broken by aerec, lmao
>>2631402>i'm not mad you're mad!>samefags himself>makes several more posts seething about his exgf/new server/old server
why does every private server poster type like picrel? retail chads, can we save them?
>>2632415So it’s a toy and no one cares? You changed your whole story LMAO
>>2632607Theres some poor woman hands getting massacred in master chat right now. Its hilarious. Go save them. Get her back to your kitchen hideout.
>>2632762i don't see it, i'm a little confused. are you youtube brained or something? looks like people discussing things normally
that might be the only OC I've ever seen in an xi thread. why are you all so uncreative /xig/?
>>2632708But they're not wrong, ridill is not a good weapon. WAR using a cheap and easy to get rune chopper will easily out damage it. It's just a show off in town piece.
>he thinks we're talking about WARretarded or bait. call it.
>>2633164Low intelligence post. If you're using ridill on any other job then you're just trolling. Only use case would be DRK zerg and even then there's better weapons.
>>2633112ridill is for dark knights. Maybe rangers doing meripo or dynamis proccing.that's it.
>>2633011IDBLT on retail. I wish you could just load your alts into character cards and equip them, and then call them out like trust magic and have them perform like human characters.
>Play retail>Enjoy all the story>Look at what I have to do at 99>Option 1 - Farm 2100 job points which is both boring as shit and takes forever>Option 2 - Braindead farm content like Ambuscade that just melts and you're expected to do it 5000 times >Option 3 - Entry level end game content like high level UNMs/Geas Fete/Omen/High tier battlefields that are simultaneously impossible to do alone but nobody wants to group for them either>Option 4 - Shit that's too hard to do with ambuscade gear
>>2633274join an event linkshell
>>2633176This nigga has never had a ridill on THF in 75 cap and it shows. Lmao. Poor lil HNMlet.
>>2633366This nigga never had a good THF in 75 cap and it shows. You really think ridill on a job with D sword skill is going to be good damage? Lmao. I'm sorry you had such shit players you've played with to think that it's good at all.
>>2633432>confirmed never had one>sour grapesLMAO
>>2632914>this dude didn't see the DRG BCNM party
>>2632883She stopped talking after being humiliated in front of bigger and bigger crowds. As most womanhanded gamers should.
>>2633531Probably stopped talking after getting dogpiled on by Sanctity/Final Warning trannies.
>>2632762Wtf is master chat
>>2633450I'm sorry for the linkshell you play with, they've really got some dumb as shit dead weight they're dragging along.
>>2633531screenshots? otherwise i'm going to assume you're a brainrotted zoomer designed to see the world through clickbait titles
>>2633274>t. private server incel hands
>>2633935Some bullshit channel on the Horizon discord.
>>2632914they use all their creativity to make up new reasons that we should all hate (insert random name here)
>>2634400Low INT post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo1eapUJ5bUskold just posted this in the phoenix discord, was this pull really this big?? wtf
>>2635466who cares. stop making up new namefags and advertising their youtube channels
after playing both retail and private servers I've come to the conclusion that this game is hilariously fucking easyLike actual baby tier game. The only hard part was that the obscure shit about some fights wasnt documented or understood at the time. if you spend 4 seconds to read up on a fight before you go in it's trivial. And on retail nobody even attempts content unless they're geared up so hard it's impossible to fail anyway, there's no actual point where the game becomes challenging or fun.
>>2636443>there's no actual point where the game becomes challenging or fun.The hardest the game will ever be is when no one has any gear and are missing spells at the start of a server but it gets easier the more gear/spells that everyone gets until you out gear everything you can come across. It's a boomer game designed for 56k modems, if you want a challenge that uses the combat system then XIM is what I'd recommend. https://xim.pages.dev/?mode=game
>>2636443yes, to play the game in a fun way you have to ignore guides and not use mods, but when you do that the highly autistic community throws hissy fits and has insane meltdowns. runescape players are the same way. i feel sad that we may never have a fun pre-wow mmo experience again, because the game has to be new and fresh and unsolved, and full of casuals that haven't been chased out by the screeching pants shitting losers yet
>>2636443>And on retail nobody even attempts content unless they're geared up so hard it's impossible to fail anyway,this is what disillusioned me out of playing on retail.Hypothetically you have some sort of "vertical" progression that would allow you to work your way up from Ambuscade into the shit that comes after but in practice everyone just leaps from Ambuscade into farming for gil for half a year to pay for clears so they can then optimize their character to do...what exactly? The easy shit they just leeched through? It's so fucking boring.
>>2634603You're bragging about using good boy Points to get a worthless trophy weapon You are the low IQ here
>>2636479That's a problem with MMO players everywhere these days from what I've seen. Unless you outgear the content, good luck being brought in to do it. WoW was the same way and to make matters worse you can see a players gear quality(item level) when they apply to join your group so it devolved into picking the highest number very quickly. Unless you were so geared that you didn't need anything from the raid, you would not be brought to the raid and you'd have to gear up other ways instead. It's asinine.You have to get in there week 1 and get your clears and gear before anyone has any standards because the second that week 2 hits, people will ask you to link your achievement that shows you cleared it the previous week before they invite you. FF14 is similar in that if you didn't do the raids week 1, you will be forced into horrible groups of terrible players and you have to suffer while everyone else has easier reclears.
>>2636440he's acting like they don't know so they can post engagement bait lol. >>2636443This is why you avoid large linkshells, especially overgeared large linkshells. Nothing is quite as boring as going to sky to do gods and watching them die in 1 minute flat. May as well be watching it unfold on a twitch stream.>>2636495Get a load of this Sirocco kukri/hornetneedle thief lol. hasn't ever had a ridill LOL.
>>2636508>everyone knows all the people i know because we're so popular and e-famousno, i have no idea who any of the names mentioned in these threads are, most of us don't
>>2633274>>Play retail>>Enjoy all the story--ima stop you right here, you can just quit now>>Look at what I have to do at 99>>Option 1 - Farm 2100 job points which is both boring as shit and takes forever>>Option 2 - Braindead farm content like Ambuscade that just melts and you're expected to do it 5000 times >>Option 3 - Entry level end game content like high level UNMs/Geas Fete/Omen/High tier battlefields that are simultaneously impossible to do alone but nobody wants to group for them either>>Option 4 - Shit that's too hard to do with ambuscade gear
>>2633366ridill and kclub are both shit options for thief, it's mkris or nothing. yes have fun missing 60% of your hits in max acc gear doing anything harder than merits.
>>2636443everything is trivial now. When this content came out SE gave nobody any hints on how it was done. For YEARS the default tactic was throw an aegis paladin and rangers at it until we figure out how to kill it otherwise in 2 weeks
>>2636589it just makes me feel like I'm missing something because everyone always gasses XI up as a "real" mmo compared to a themepark MMO like XIV (To be clear, I am not defending any of the boring ass shit in XIV)Except all the content at endgame seems to be just as braindead as content in XIV except with more grind attached to it.Like yeah I can take 4-6 months to grind out a REMA but in the back of my head I feel like I would get there and then be in the same position I am now where it's like "Ok, what does this actually get me into that's interesting"
>>2636627FFXI died years ago. you want to play this game at endgame either join a linkshell with other people who are cool with catching you up, it's a lot of work, and a LOT of gil, or you can multibox. Then, what do you get for having a BIS character but invited to do that kind of stuff for other people?Game's dead, Jim.
>>2636597>mkris or nothingevery time you post you reveal how retarded you are. you clearly don't play thf and you've never had a ridill. your opinion here is worthless.>the entire game revolves around fighting monsters higher than level 80as I said, low INT. probably an elvaan.
>>2636627People who gas up XI are either wearing rose-tinted glasses or are very over-invested in their characters and experiencing sunk cost fallacy.
>>2636627People are talking about everything era BEFORE endgame. No one cares about the Leaping Lizzy XL simulator.There is a grind to retail but you should really just be buying the currency, no one has ever grinded all 30000 alex. Dynamis is easier now, especially in a campaign but that is even easier to buy, since you can just get almost an entire relic off the AH in one go. A lot of systems in retail aren't there for people but bots and RMT.On retail I can only play with a completionist mindset, thanks to mastery rank. It's more fun doing everything from chocobo races to RoE to get a RME to even trying to get all the MMM runes.
WoW always mogged this game.
>>2637141>try wow ""classic"">combat: press 1 button over and over>quests: kill 0/6 quillboar>story: there is none>exploration: here's a road and giant masses of nothing>dungeons: you actually have to group for these and everyone hates them>pvp: you can now die instantly>voice acting: for the alliance. strength and honor (meanwhile wc3 had fully voiced cutscenes)>death: feels annoying. I'd rather just take XP loss.>music: you get like 30 seconds of a drum beating then nothing>community: someone yelled their name one time and it was soo epic>legacy: it was on south park, member?honestly the only thing I kind of liked from WoW was how some mobs would do different things like run away and call for help. It's a miracle how bad the game was from day 1.
>>2637083>Buying currencywith what gil making capability as a fresh 99?
>try ffxi 75 era>combat: auto attack simulator>quests: go to the place and click on the thing. no, i will not elaborate on what or where the place or thing are>story: an ancient evil has awoken>exploration: here's a road, giant masses of nothing and a two foot fence you can't jump over>dungeons: you actually have to group for these so you can pass the braindead puzzle blocking progression to the area of it you need and everyone hates them>pvp: doesn't exist so you can't even break up the monotony>voice acting: there is none (meanwhile ffx had fully voiced cutscenes)>death: forces you on the grind treadmill for even longer>music: nobody puts any xi track is their top 10 list for the franchise besides the 5 balding 40 years who are still playing it to this day>community: read this thread. 'nuff said.>legacy: skipped by most of the ff fandom and fuzzily remembered as "that mmo they had before xiv"
>>2637367>quests: go to the place and click on the thing. no, i will not elaborate on what or where the place or thing arebased as heck desu senpai
>>2637367>pvp: doesn't exist so you can't even break up the monotonycheck out this dweeb that never did ballista.
>>2620587In game name and server? Lets be friends :3
>>2637419Ah yes the galka MNK75/BLU37 walking around taking no damage and your team has no blm
So what was the drama from gather together 25 that Rahne doesn’t want anyone to know about?
>>2637269everyone buys gil these days
>>2636800I'm not that other anon, you're just a moron. your 200 club skill and your 210 sword skill are going to come in real fucking handy on anything harder than colibri. if you get brought to any event, your job is to tag hate on a HNM and go sit in the corner.
>>2637367just fyi since I knew you would say that about FFX. FFX and FFXI were developed at the same time! So it was ultimately impossible for them to implement VA into FFXI, especially since their team all their technology about it was already going into FFX. The more you know stupid nigger! For WoW they literally just took everything from WC3, and the devs of it still try to act like they were rushed or something.Even if WoW had VA, it would change nothing, either way. 25 years later and the cutscenes and characters are a complete joke. It hasn't made a single memorable character, meanwhile Shantotto is basically top 10 Final Fantasy characters and she's a side character.
>>2638200I’m glad they didn’t add voice acting because it’s annoying in FF14. It’s nice there’s an option to mute it.
>>2637269selling alexandrite from salvage runs (~300-400k a run), selling detritus from omen runs (~400k a run depending on TH), selling lustreless mats from odyssey a and b, even chest farming if you have THF(luck dependent, I've left sometimes with 2 full stacks and change ~1m+ but prices may have moved). all can be done with a fresh blu in jhakri +2 and a kaja club and make respectable steady dosh, all too complicated for the public bots to farm but too repetitive for veterans to bother doing anymore (but they still need the mats). I know dynamisd is open to the public now too so you could try to see how much you can kill in wave 1 with trusts or find a party. put together some moderate support or whm gear and you can start getting into odyssey c groups which is like 500-1m gil a day easy +segments which you'll need later. I haven't touched the new limbus yet but I'm sure there's shit to sell from there. And then if you join an ls that does regular dynamis/omen runs you'll get major bank from lucky drops in there while simultaneously making gear progress. ambuscade will be slow going but if you're dedicated you could clear out a lot of the sellable mats in the ambu list by spamming E/VE, prices will move obviously but last I checked the total value of all the monthly stuff on there was like ~30m. all that + your welfare 2m a week from RoE. Also worth checking easy to grind items that every player in the game will need for story shit like Bee Pollen which takes 10 minutes to farm multiple stacks of and sells like 30k a pop and every player ever will need a few of. There's plenty of ways to make money for newfags if they actually want to put in the effort. if you don't then just swipe for RMT gil but then you lose the right to bitch about wah my server is full of mercs wah the market is shit I can't make any gil since you're now a direct contributor to that ecosystem
>>2638644>but then you lose the right to bitch about wah my server is full of mercs wah the market is shit I can't make any gil since you're now a direct contributor to that ecosystemThe mercs are on every server with a relevant populace, one more player participating doesn't move the needle one way or the other. If anything you're the retarded one if you aren't participating especially for shit like JP where basically nobody actually parties for it anymore
>>2638654this same cope from every neckbeard friendless RMTfiend lmaoliterally just make friends you incorrigable loser. I have literally not paid someone else to JP for me once in ten years, it takes less than a weeks worth of 1 hour play sessions to master a job during campaigns now. If you have to pay another man (pause) to level your video game guy up for you you need to just hang yourself now this game is just not for you. Or get off of asura because its destroying your perception of the game. people actively tell mercs to shut the fuck up in yell chat on bahamut
>>2637367bro never did ballista baka lmao
I had a LSmate join a JP players Dho Gates JP party during last months campaign where the party was 4/6 JP players and they all talked in [Auto-translate]. There Is Magic In FFXI For Those With Eyes. if you want to be willfully blind and be a paypig for some fat russian running bots all day that is a You Issue. Asura does not represent FFXI you guys have your own faggotry going on there the rest of us are not interested in.
>>2637799the foot orgy, where a bunch of people wiggled their oily toes together in a circle. it was weird and there was drama after. i didn't attend of course i just knew it was happening and i stayed in my hotel and jacked off to catgirls instead
>>2638671>literally just make friends you incorrigable loser.I joined two different social LSes and they're just silent all day. Other than the same nigga who drops in at 8PM every day to ask "Any JPing going on?" and he's met with silence
>>2638683I heard Rahne got slammed by Aerec and Beasty while Hugin watched from the cuck chair
Are servers sharting regionwide?
>>2638680grouping with nips isn't that hard, i use my phone translate app, google translate, and copy/paste, or if you're really fancy and know nipspeek theres a windower addon called kanakanaa that can auto translate english text into ramen noodles
>>2638684just be like "sup queefs any of you not botting and want a human to replace your trusts?"
>>2638200>It hasn't made a single memorable characterENTER>meanwhile Shantotto is basically top 10 Final Fantasy characters and she's a side character.Come on now nigga most people have zero idea what the fuck a Shane Tojo is
>>2638376Actually I suppose it did have some VA if you include the opening cinematic, which is a fairly good one (they even basically reused it for ff14). It sets the lore and story of the game nicely and still looks good. Hell it gives you more war than WoW classic and it's not even a focal point of FFXI. WoW has like 5 seconds of a guy talking and it sucks. Actually it's crazy how much better this opening is than WoW's because Blizzard was known as the cinematic people, SE was just better.>>2640180People hated Garrosh, if they even knew who he was. Then they had to make him evil mcevildouche raid boss to kill him because that's all they do. He got called orc hitler for like half a decade, if there is any appreciation for him it's pure revisionism because sylv anus and everything that came after him and is even worse somehow.Also WoW not only killed Warcraft but a mount killed Starcraft as well and caused Blizzard's downward spiral into milk drinking devs, meanwhile FFXI kept SE afloat during its flop era and is the heart of final fantasy.FFXI is just proof that SOVL will always win out in the end.
>>2638929nah, that was rinste. similar names so i can see the confusion
>>2640180i don't know any wow characters except i think there's a girl named jina pridemore or something? and i used to always see porn of some elf guy with a huge dick maybe his name was illydang but all i know is his dick was huge
>>2637953>i'm not that other anon>wah wah weapon skill too lowYou might as well be that anon. Also I never brought up kraken club. >your job at hnm is to tag and afk>debunking your own argumentThief's gimmick is farming shit you petulant retard(s). And Ridill is the best offhand. Goat for Nyzul, Dynamis, Assaults, Limbus, Salvage and farming anything 1-77. If you had one you would know this, which you don't. :^) don't feel too bad about being a turbo shitter though, not everyone can be a ridill thf chad.Besides this is getting away from the point that Phoenix will have a fuckload of ridills thanks to their forced spawns, so if that's not something you think is great, maybe best not to play there.
>>2640545Sirocco Kukri is better. Multi-hit weapons are baits.
how often do the limbus Ark Angels spawn
>>2640545i can see a thief using a ridill because they also play a DRK, but giving a ridill to a thief is a waste.
>>2640727SE should have nerfed souleater cheese across the board when AV died for the 3rd time.
So is horizon worth playing or not?
>>2641315At this point, you might as well wait for Phoenix, which supposedly comes out in September. However, if you just want to get a feel for it, go ahead.
>>2641552Ok Anon, thanks.
>>2641315Yeah if you wanna take it seriously wait for Phoenix in September. But horizon is good to fuck around. Just remember that they have a lot of custom balance changes so things will be different and more accurate on Phoenix
>>2641552Wow, i feel like i have wasted my time in horizon...i have a few jobs at level 30 and did a lot of quests.
>more phoenix astroturfing
>>2641617Playing video games isn’t a waste of time if you have fun. Phoenix is just going to be a better product so if you’re going to spend a lot of time you might as well do it on a server that has a future and will receive updates
>>2641951>>2602981>>2602788So in order to get/steam more updates, horizon would have to carefully decide when to rebase multiple times over and over for major content patches that would likely take longer and longer to do? Even longer than the most recent one?
This thread is speaking the exact same way now as they did about Horizon years ago. That turned out well, didn't it? Come invest another 1000+ hours on our fresh server, anonnie. If you're having fun, you're not wasting your time. We definitely won't be repeating history or anything like that in the years following our launch, haha.
>>2642160Huge systemic changes have already been made since horizon rebased. They will never rebase again. That is why they are forked now. Essentially they gave up.They no longer can receive LSB updates even though they underwent a 3 year long rebase.
>>2642162Private servers come and go. Just how it is. Horizon had a couple good years
>>2642244Oh, that's even worse than I thought if they can't ever leech updates from there to convert into their own code (I thought it meant they could at least do that). Sounds like they'll eventually get lapped multiple times over by the new open source stuff that everyone else can use then
>>2642509Their plan was to be able to leech. They gave up. They had to finish the rebase to justify the wait but ended it and gave up when they realized they would be rebasing forever just to keep their mountains of custom code up to date.
>>2642162Horizon has been in a content drought for years now, I'm not sure how people are still playing on it unless they started late. The time to get into dynamis and limbus was unbearably annoying before I stopped playing. ToAU being dripfed isn't going to solve the problem either and the economy/player gear levels are out of whack because they're 2 years behind schedule for ToAU.
>>2642775Sunk Cost Fallacy
>>2641315Yeah just wait for Phoenix and have a brand new start with many other players. Think about which race and which job combinations you will want to focus on.
>>2640515>>2638929>>2638683My friend heard this too. He heard from a good source that she was getting trainwrecked by a couple of them. He said that's why she is back on the horizon discord. Heard about 13 people from horizon have been inside her at this point.
Does anyone have any fanfics actually related to FFXI? Preferably not some schizo posting about pservers.
>>2642826Check on AO3 maybe. For schizoposting avoidance I highly recommend using the filters on 4chan to remove any namefagging.
>>2642851I'm adding both Phoenix and Horizon to the filters. At this point there's nothing good from their schizo posting.
>>2642802oh so you were just using my posts to write fanfiction about your crush? :( just ask her out already baka
>>2642861>the thread with schizo filters
>>2642996sovl
Phoenix Server now has double the members since the last time I checked in. This could be the next big one guys! Should I dump all of my DKP and quit my horizon linkshell to join Phoenix or wait?
>>2643356bro just afk at the dragon on horizon while grinding on phoenix until you figure it out.
>>2643356I'm in there to laugh at retards and watch them backpeddle on their promises. Don't confuse total members with diehard dickriders. Oh look, they've got people posting ai slop in linkshell recruitment posts. Gross. Phoenix on target for being jeet central.
>>2644375Is this what horizon players do because they don’t have any content? lmao
>>2644375what kind of promises would they backpedal on?
You must go do the ISNM slop content so Beasty can stress test the server.
>>2644457Don’t think they have any idea, they’re just hating
>promies on third horizon toon cannot be fucking arsed>fishbot still doesn't work on horizon or catseyeIt feels so over
>>2645351fishbot works, you have to use the special private server api dlls you can probably still get them from atom0s's discord
>>2644375> Plays on Horizon> 4 year CoP Server> countless broken promises> 12/24> reworks 1,2, and 3> More broken promises that my ex husband> Rebase brought more problems than it fixed.> Enraged and jealous by the existence of Phoenix and the massive crowd of players preparing for it.Yikes retard. Yikes.
>>2646677Horizon only has two paths forward now. They can either release a rushed and sloppy TOAU just to beat Phoenix or they can just not release it until after Phoenix. Either way they’re going to get decimated and lose a ton of their population
>>2646677>professional fanfic writer>uses his skills to shit up this threadwhy don't you go pull a 50 shades of gray or something bro your talents are wasted here
>>2646803Sorry sweaty all of those happened. You gotta hold that horizon L
>>2646819but i don't play on horizon
>>2646822>I don’t play on horizon >spends free time rage replying about posts speaking the hard truths about horizon he doesn’t want to hearI totally believe you anon
>>2646829more like i find (You) to be easily baited and rattled so i purposely heckle you, which you know, because I've told you that i do this before, lol. now feel free to samefag 8 responses to this post pretending that you aren't the MeltyMan phoenix shill spammer
>inb4 accusations of (insert random name here)
>>2646836This is you
>>2646800They are going to go with option A. Expect a giant departure from anything "Era" its all + now
>>2646875sure buddy. i totally play on horizon. are you sure you don't want to accuse my hands of being womanly while we're here? what about aloris or whatever her name is do you think i might be her this time or am i rainy
>>2646875This is perfect and sums up several 4chan posters lol>>2646881I saw a bunch of people on Phoenix server that no longer have "mutual server horizon" when I mouse over them. It's pretty amazing! Lots of New players are joining Phoenix
>>2647438Yeah think a lot of people are realizing horizon is over
Obligatory
who wants to play /xig/ bingo?https://mfbc.us/m/f7gtxv8 (not a virus just randomizes the card)
>>2648061I'm responsible for like half of these, I don't even play anymore FFXI players are just easily manipulated lol
dynamis melties
>>2648345we know, schizo
>>2648061two of these were things i said exactly one time. Low effort engagement bait (You)
I can't really move to phoenix, i invested so much time into Horizon..
>>2648061forgot to add "Horizon now has toau"oh wait... no one would ever win.
>>2650623do you know how bingo works
>>2651084do you know how reading comprehension works retard?
>>2650616True, don't forget to clock in today for your hnm window
>>2650616having to do all the busybody work to reach era endgame is what filters me. Fuck doing chains of promathia again lol.
>>2652382Missions will be more interesting on Phoenix since you can’t just cheese everything with BST like on Horizon
>>2652427I didn't do cop with a bst and it's still going to be extremely boring and monotonous
>>2652456Maybe you just don’t like the game? Idk I love FFXI missions and how they unlock new areas. It’s very unique
>>2652458I realize you're busy trying to hype up your new server but you have to do better than >maybe it's you who doesn't like cop missionsNigga, nobody likes cop missions.
>>2652466A lot of people do actually. People like the game. Sounds like you don’t
>>2652475Do these people also think Kipling looks handsome in this fanfic of yours?
>>2652486I don’t get why you’re posting in a thread about a game you clearly don’t like (and probably don’t play) but nice LARP I guess
>>2652535>no youre larping>the whole game is the story missionsPhoenix is not sending their best. I play, I just don't play to progress story missions on repeat like an autistic broken record. Certainly not on a fresh private server that's going to be riddled with bugs or probably be so undertuned that you may as well be playing BST on Horizon.
>>2652535There's some psycho that's going around saying people don't like/never did CoP missions, unsurprisingly now it's some Aerec bootshiner that only cleared them using Fight with his 10000 HP sheep (macros are like dated and weird??) and defends it with his life. You can't make these threads up anymore
>everyone loves starting fresh!Explain why the OP has three dead fresh servers in it then
>>2652535Because they're probably that schizo shit stirrer. Tehee, look at me, I manipulate players, and please give me some attention...
Yeah so anyway. I'll be playing on the server where I don't need to redo everything from scratch.
>>2653003That’s great, I’ll be playing on Phoenix because I want a fresh start with era balance
>>2653036Phoenix is era+.
>>2652382>>2652466>>2652602Then why are you on a 4 year CoP server? SCF retards need to be prayed for.
>>2653161Era+ is horizon
>>2653166There's that Horizon again. Lives rent free in your head. Pretty much all of your retorts fall back on old reliable, huh? If I had to choose between doing end game or story missions, I will always choose end game. Only delusional retards think the mission slog is fun. Retards and astroturfing liars.>>2653171>'My server is era, I say, as I load up 240 items into my mog wardrobes to trivialize the game.'>'Oh also today my LS is popping 14 Fafnirs, haha.'>'If you want to exp later we have a copy paste of horizon's level sync penalties so we have to be closer together in levels. I know that's not era, shut up......'>'We gave pup 1 buff but we're not era+ I swear'>'We will be known as the iconic server that unstacked the ores. Mega memes, guys.'
>>2653230Here’s the thing - people who are interested in Phoenix like me don’t care about Horizon. You can keep writing essays but I’m not gonna play there
>>2653234Zero substance. Low INT. Phoenix suits you.
>>2653241You aren’t gonna convince people to play your custom server writing these crazy rant essays little bro
>>2653260You think your constant phoenix glazing will? I only shine a light on your inconsistencies, and you scurry away like cockroaches under a flashlight.Phoenix is era+.
>>2653313Anyone reading this thread just sees some weird horizon schizo desperately trying to discredit another server while not talking about any of the good things about horizon. Just comes off as super schizo and desperate (which it is). Good luck with your TOAU mobs in Gustaberg or whatever little bro. I’ll be waiting for Phoenix.
>>2653332It's clear you have no substantiative arguments. The Phoenix discord is better suited for you.
>>2653357Not playing horizon bro
>>2653359Not playing Phoenix lil guppy. Or Horizon for that matter. Both Aerec and Kipling can eat shit.
>>2653371Yeah sure man you’re just in here running defense for horizon every minute but you don’t play. Totally believe you lil gup
>>2653383Me calling out your bullshit is not a defense of Horizon. You just see it that way because the only way for your server to have a chance is by taking horizon down a peg.
>>2653397Not playing on horizon lil gup
Yesterday i saw 1900 player online in Horizon, this server is not going to die anytime soon.
stfu winter
>>2653313We already have Era+, nobody talks about CatsEye despite it being vastly superior as a fun server/retail-lite server. It has hit 1k concurrent players before, and is very easily the second most populous server. The neat thing is, it's had TOAU for years. While all of the turd monkeys on Horizon huff their hopium and copium, CEXI has a fully functioning TOAU and a bunch of WOTG works as well.
>>26537561900 minus one
Are they wiggling their toes in Chicago?
>>2654604How many times do you think Rahne has been cummed in so far by various horizon staff?
>>2654648More than by you, probably.
>>2654767Are you bragging about being a highly cummed in jizz jar? Lmao gross
>>2654897Buff my relic and i'll take your creampie
>>2653230>>2654767Womand hands typed this from the bed of the hotel of horizon staff members
>>2654897Making fun of you because you are obsessed with a highly cummed in jizz jar according to your fanfiction.
>>2654954Succubus hands wrote this
>>2654977please tell us more about how badly you want to have sex with her
>>2654281yea but how much toau content does CE have?
>>2642160Ninja funds the game, he already moved away from wings and effectively killed it cause they updated the game beyond what he wanted.They have no reason to go beyond what the game is, it's era.You as a player are not the customer, Ninja is cause he pays for it.
>>2655666Most assaults don't work, mythics are in a bodged state, but ZNM works, HNMs work, leveling areas all work, trophies all work, missions all work.
>>2656177+ pup works fine, not as strong as retail+ BLU is overpowered and has a bunch of retail stuff like tourbillion that is ooe but squished into the 75 mold
>>2656054Ninja didn’t pay for jack shit, most of the server costs were paid by Kipling.
>>2656054How do you know that ninja funded anything?
>>2656556>>2656648proof?
>>2656054>>2656648>>2656800https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85gFeaz0YYs
>>2656800There was a spreadsheet posted a while back that showed who all donated to the server, and no, I'm not going to spoonfeed it to you; I'm sure you can find it yourself.
Phoenix astroturfers working overtime in here. Can't even admit that they are era+, lol.
>>2657227Having TOAU isn’t era+ bro even though it may seem that way to a horizon tard who only knows COP.
>>2657325another desperate deflection
>he actually thinks he's going to launch with full toau and not just aht urgan whitegate, some shitty quests and one tier of assaultsEnjoy killing colibri though I guess?
>>2657185How do you know the spreadsheet was verified? Anyone can make a spreadsheet.
>>2657185>>2657371dev cumfilled womanhands typed this from the devs hotel room bed
>>2657410he's still going lmao
>>2657401As opposed to being 75 in all jobs with 5 relics and not having anything to do even when the expansion launches like on horizon? You aren’t even making a point just pointing out how horizon is bad and been in cop for 5 years
Horizon and Phoenix both suck. You know how normies get out of that cesspool mentality?Play on a real Era+ server. CEXI crunches a bunch of 75-99 content into 75 cap with a bunch of custom endgame content tiers which are actually challenging.
>>2657498If that describes you brother, you need to get some job applications filled out.
>>2657532>trusts>dualboxing>server run by the FFXI version of NetanyahuI’m good dawg
>>2657436Rent Free
Yeah so anyway why is an 'era' server using Horizon's era+ level sync and lockstyle??
>>2658126We not playing on horizon lol bro stay mad
>>2658126I don't know. They are using out of era HNM spawn items too and 4 wardrobes. That's not the era experience I remember. At that point, just give yourself godmode and trust magic lmao.
How do i get all the summon pets early on in Horizon? Trial Size (level cap 20) seems a little hard, do i have to level another job to 75 and do the normal trials?
>>2657532Careful anon, the directional downies in here won’t be able to comprehend anything outside of Option A and Option B and get stuck inside of a retarded loop
>>2657962You can play a wings-era warrior, and get no trusts, it's up to you.
Haven't logged into Horizon about 18 months, got the itch to play again. Haven't followed anything, did no research, haven't read the thread. What am I in for?
>>2658448whitegate will unlock in two weeks
>>2658492Holy shit, maybe I picked a good time to come back. For real this time not just saying I want to and not doing it for a few more months
>>2658492My linkshell TwoMoreWeeks is now up and going, ask Aerec for a pearl
>>2658492Proof?
>>2658215Join one of those "social" linkshells and then beg for people to carry you through the 75 mode.
>>26584922 more weeks you say?
>>2658492>>2658654>>2658697Dev kitten woman hands retrieved the insider info. Jerked it right out of them. I believe it. Remember that you heard it here first.
>>2658448resistances are fucked have fun
>>2657436when you can't get laid, all you have is fanfiction
So HumeF or Mithra?
>>2658996Elvaan F
>>2658996Elvaan M x2
>>2658730No1curr
>>2659932I care. I care deeply about the sex lives of each individual developer and every woman I've ever encountered in this game. Don't pretend that you don't. How many dicks have you sucked btw? Gossip is for women so I assume you are a fellow hag
Why do you guys talk down on people having relics and nice gear so often? How does other people having that gear affect you in any way whatsoever?
>>2660556Because I don't have it and I just can't come outright and say I'm jealous now, can I?
>>2658215Level 20 trials are trivial, I did them all naked. Carby mitts help a lot but you don't need them, you do need yagudo drinks and to know where to be when summoning. Ok for all the fights it's real simple, you summon the little bastard then run down to the middle then wait for him to die summon him again and run down to the bottom, then you wait for him to die and summon him again at the bottom then you run back up to the top and if you're very lucky you won't get 2hour/thundersparked. Rinse and repeat until dead or if you're a fancy fucker use poison nails.
>>2660556Because when everyone has a relic your server and its content are baby mode and a joke
>>2660831okay but how does this affect you
>>2660848How does the content on the server being not fun or challenging affect me? Are you retarded?
>>2660851Why are you playing with the super sweats? You know you have a choice, right?
>Oh noooo~ I've put in an application for the linkshell where everyone has 50 relics. Silly meee..>Now to complain on 4chans that Kirin dies in 30 seconds and I'm oppressed
>>2660861That’s the issue though. Every player in horizon has multiple relics and maats cap. The server balance is absolutely fucked
>>2660884Did Aerec start giving them out for free? Do you have census data showing how many people own a relic?No, the two guys perma afk in town with two relics equipped aren't evidence enough.
>>2660929I'd argue that ashitacast and mog wardrobes have done more to 'easy mode' the game than relic weapons ever have.
>>2661002LMAO you niggas are stupid as fuck
>>2660929When I played there was some guy and his 'wife' and they'd just gil print and farm literally all day and got a relic.All it takes is like one person to ruin the vibe.Too much spreadsheeters.>>2661002this and stacked wood
>>2661059Found the nigga with 14 ashitacasts
>>2661316don't forget an armor set for every possible scenario. People love to pretend that this has no meaningful impact on the game beyond quality of life but the fact remains that they did not design FFXI around players changing gear in combat.You can also cheese elemental enemy TP moves with Ashitacast and Gearswap. The GMs can't tell. lol
>>2661316Yeah I have one for each of my relics on horizon
>>2662042why do you have relics they make the game too easy???
Retail is the best server.
>>2662278The game should be hard only when I want it to. Specifically, after I got world first 75 (in starter gear), after BST nerfs (already 75 BST and got all actual good gear from Seal + gil farm), after I did all the jank missions, after enhanced relic/currency drops from Dynamis, after crafting rates nerf, and after everything era+ is removed like getting exp from ecowarrior which is cringe, then after I get my relics. Then I should be able to play the game entirely catered to me and my interests.
>>2662278Cause horizon is baby mode so it’s easy and free
>>2660012>Gossip is for women.LMFAO
>>2660831>>2660848>>2660851Aerecs server is full of retards. Everyone having a relic due to 4 year cop server and nothing else to do enables the retards to make relics a requirement for content. Met several retards with relics and boy is it terrifying. Not even a prestige thing to have one anymore.
>>2662965>make relics a requirement for contentOkay so you join a linkshell of nonsweats? I don't see the issue? Is there only one linkshell on horizon and you need a relic for entry? Have you ever thought of, oh I don't know, running your own shit?Relics weren't even a prestige item in 07. You just had to be a shell/sackholder in a Dynamis linkshell and you would be handed one on a silver platter for corralling the retards twice weekly. The only difference now is players have optimized farming currency. Oh, yeah. They also didn't have mog wardrobes or ashitacast way back when. Funny.
>>2663025>relics weren’t even a prestige item in 07Holy fucking LARP. This why horizon sucks bro cause niggas like you and Aerec who didn’t play era retail are calling the shots
>>2663281I bet you joined in like 2008 and thought relic owners back then were walking gods lmao. The process to get one then is the same as it is now, you're just late to the show buddy.If anything it was easier back then because you could get 30 people to join up just to watch AF2 drop. You would treat them to one or two beaus/xarcas a month to placate them and do cities for the rest of the time. More new people were great, because they also needed city clears.>prestigelmao
>>2664693Horizon threw you a bone by letting any retard have a relic and now you have to vigorously defend them on 4chan, I get it
>>2664693Back then the average player had a life which is not true for a lot of private server MMO players. It's the same issue plaguing most MMO private servers, they're full of neets, wfh, moms, etc. The old MMO meme was that the guy with all the best gear was on welfare.
>>2664860>>2664883Found the people who were obedient little DKP slaves in '08.
>>2664896How did you get that from a post that was essentially "the average player didn't spend as much time on the game back then."? Even bringing up '08 is retarded when the average MMOfag had already ditched FFXI to play WoW because that was the era of WotLK which was the peak of WoW's cultural relevance.
>>2664909Cope to get out of not having a character worth two shits.
>>2664918You've moved the goalposts. The average private server player is more hardcore than the average player was back in the day and spends much more time on the game. The majority of private server players are doing end game, while on retail only the minority of players were. Especially during the CoP era when even doing the CoP missions filtered players so they had issues even getting to sea.
>>2664955Proof? Where's your xi census?
>>2664982That is true for every MMO on the market back then you fucking moron lmao.
>>2664986Should be easy for you to cite then.
>>2664987Google exists and it even spells it out for complete retards these days :).
>>2664995>this nigga really linked an ai generated google replyThe person making the claim has the burden of proof.>There were more non-level capped players in 07Okay great. How are you going to prove that there were less hardcore players then than today? Off to google again, bro.
>>2665014This is common sense, stop trying to give me busy work because you're so bored camping a HNM that you're looking for anything to do to pass the time.
>>2664883>The old MMO meme was that the guy with all the best gear was on welfare.There's that envy again. Some of you can't look at another player without making up some headcanon about what squalor they must live in to justify it.
>>2665038Are you being obtuse to the amount of grinding required in older MMOs? In a thread for an extremely grindy old MMO? Is this a side effect of playing on Horizon for 4 years without a constant influx of new content to keep grinding?
Not even that guy but>relics>prestigeThey weren’t exactly scarce though, relics were fairly common (not in whatever meme shell you were in). It was either the hnmls/dyna shell nolifers or the dipshit gilbuyers that bought all the currency and hired the shells to get stuff like frags/attestations. Now if you had said Mythics I’d of partly agreed with you as they had been out for less time and more of a chore with the ichor/token/assault grind
>>2665174Did you fill out an application to join the LS? Then there's probably a relic in there, and that is your fault for joining a meme relic farm LS to be a points slave instead of playing with your friends. Playing with relicfags was your punishment back then for not knowing how to play the game.
Explain to me again why playing with more hardcore players is worse than playing with more noobs? inb4>I can't enter dynamis ;_;
>>2665241Increases the chance that they think their relic is relevant, they're out damaging an AH SAM, and/or they're not being carried by the BLM party.
>>2665240Must’ve struck a nerve if you’re projecting back at me kek
>>2666023rent free
>>26651748 years of toau and many ppl will have mythics too.
> Aerec is the abusive husband.> The players are the blackeyed wife that loves him.Keep shilling
>>2661390>>2662965>mfw the Dunes Afterparty linkshell (or w/e it was called) on whoreizon required you to link your ashitacast config files as part of the ""application"" for the honorary privilege of joining a linkshell with a revolving door>there was even one with some 10+ page PDF linked that you had to sign and agree to>played with a small group of people that melted content, half of which were simple equipset macro enjoyers, mages includedit jus werks
>>2665038>t. the guy on welfare
>>2665241ur just unfun whiny babies for the most part, like all around unpleasant to interact with
>>2665014nta but like just stop and consider the number of literal children that played this game when it came out. for however many serious gamers there was like at least three 10 year olds
>>2657532I love the unbreakable crystal warrior mode!
When will Square Enix make another official Final Fantasy MMO? Also they should make it play like classic ffxi
>75 cap exp party expects rdm to cast haste on 4 targets not including the rdm itself while having them also main heal with their atrocious mp efficiency because lolconvert>75 cap exp party scholar can just give everyone str+7 and enspell while having better mp efficiency than rdm while healing>rdm is still better because hasteWhy not have the bard cast double march? All my parties with a scholar were better than the ones with a red mage
>>2668408UCW is probably the most fun I've ever had playing FFXI
>>2669320acc is king, isn't it? having the bard give acc is the way to go while leveling.
>>2669751At 75 merit parties? No. When the bard can do double haste you go with that. Acc is just a benchmark at best and mostly helps in the lower levels
>>2669751if you have a cor it's ACC+ATK, if you have a bard it's double minuet
>>2671177or sam+fighters, double minuet just depends on the party makeup, if you have rangers with kclubs its acc+atk, double minuet, if you have 3 drgs its alt+tab, play something else because the party comp is shit
I said it before and i will say it again, Retail is the only server worth your time since it a server managed by a company and not some retards who have control over the server.
>>2671192what if i have 5 drgs
>>2671720Paying monthly to play a 20+ year old game with minimal updates is a strong ask though.
>>2671720>implying current SE aren't complete retards
>>2671720Retail is on life support. The only benefit to playing retail is everything works and you can avoid playing some bugged pserver with bodged functionality and completely made-up damage calculations.
>>2672544>Retail is on life supportI don't think so, they updated the official website finally after many years.
>actively closing servers due to overpopulation>"life support"
>>2672785Maybe maintenance mode is a better term. We're not getting any new classes or races. Item level 119 is the same meaningless shit it was 10 years agoNo new systems just the same recycled old shitNo new servers just closing down existing ones so the smaller ones don't have to be merged again. Revenue is there but SE doesn't ban bots anymore. XI money goes to the salaries of the dozen people still keeping it running, SE doesn't add more development. Game's dead, Jim
>>2668781They should have started another MMO when endwaller came out.Put 11 and 14 in a state they can pretty much run forever with zero oversight like guild wars and move on Make another decade long story people will get invested in and let the older mmos be things people sub too when they are waiting for new content Dawntrail was a mistake and everyone will agree that 14 continuing was a mistake sooner or later.
>>2569120The issue with ffxi is people don't want to admit the game is extremely one note.You either stack mages and support to stay alive to wear something down over 20 mins or stack support and extremely overgeared melee to burn it down if it doesn't have enough hp to live long enough to do anything dangerous.People will instead argue up and down that one melee is more op than another because it has a """"worthless"""" ja that totally changes things up when in reality like half of the jobs are interchangeable. So how do you shake up a meta when half of the jobs might as well be one job?How many strats can you really make up when your choice is buff melee or buff tank and have mages do the damage? This isn't even counting that mages have like 10x more uses than half of the jobs. If you're strat requires debuff, aoe, kiting you only have 2 jobs that even have tools that can be fit into that.
>>2673810the problem is SE lacks creative talent. XI was good because of the oversight of Hironobu Sakaguchi. As soon as he left the entire company took a turn for the worse. Final Fantasy isn't the same as it once was. I'd rather they just kill both and never make another final fantasy game, this was his series.
>>2671720they need to lower the sub why does the much newer shinier XIV have a cheaper sub than XI
I should be in charge of the game, my servers would be fair and honest with no special treatment. My friends? What friends? No cheaters, bots, or hax ever
>>2678262Rise of the Zilart only, 2003 era server, 21-24h HNMs, 25% chance of kings, slow ass walk speed, remove all ooe assets, no xp rings, no corsairs, boat rides are long, sea horror will clip into the main cabin and fuck you up, server is 80% Chinese
>>2678782NOOOOOO WHERES MY COLIBRI!!! TOAU WAS A GOOD EXPANSION!!!!!!
>>2678782heaven
horizon is going to announce their launch is 1 week before phoenix
>>2680443My succubus hands source told me ahead of time. She said not to tell anyone
>>2680504sucked the info right out of them
can't wait to find out what level the COR rolls were changed to
>>2673690>new races>ffxiHad to double check where I was.Anyway. I'm bored of private. Will I be playing solo on Retail? is retail fun, at all? I suppose I always wanted to see all the stories, it's all something I can solo right?
>>2680575it's fun, and soloable, just a different game entirely. you might enjoy it
>>2680575You can solo all the way to 99 and shit gear in retail, and pretty much every mission but endgame is a social affair
PHOENIX IN SHAMBLES
cant wait to run out of content in ToAU before fall bros
I enjoy the "FRESH™" experience, with the way everyone in the thread is talking I'm guessing Phoenix is the next one to open up soon? I guess I could figure it out myself but it's easier to ask, thanks
>>2680898 meOh an open beta starting in a few days, nice. My days off start on the 8th and I have 2 weeks off, I could hit that beta hard if I wanted
>>2680832what happened now
>>2680832Woman hands typed this. Comfort threatened
>>2680948wow phoenix is sexist? shocker
Phoenix isn't a person... or wait, maybe its one of those gay streamers who got to soiface on the horizon steam
>>2680908you could poop in a sock and piss in a jug, you're still getting nuked back to level 1 when it's over.
>>2681173your cock is already level 1
>>2680989Based, I will now play on Phoenix
damn... nobody cares... poor horizon...
>>2681307I would've cared 3 years earliernow it's too lateI might play phoenix launch but even that I'm not sure about
>>2681392>I would've cared 3 years earlierI feel a bit similar. I don't think I have the time or dedication for it anymore. I haven't played in a few years. Still I kinda wanna go and unlock puppetmaster to see what they have done to it. Then again I expect all the parts to be insanely expensive and unavailable to me.
>>2681392Yeah, it was supposed to come out a year after launch, I stopped playing ages ago now and I have no interest in playing again when I'm so behind everyone that didn't stop playing. Toss in fights like AV still not being implemented because they're focusing on "rushing" out ToAU instead of finishing CoP and it's so retarded.Plus that's the Ephinea anniversary month and I'd rather be grinding that instead of the small fragment of ToAU they're releasing at launch.
>>2682091>Plus that's the Ephinea anniversary monthfvark... I've always missed their events so maybe ill play...
Its over…
Horixon Era+>3+ Years on Chains of Promathia>25+ Hours a week at trail markings and Dynamis Windurst>4+ Hours X'ing for daily HNM windows>3+ Relics per average player
>>2684117Comeon bro, don’t be like that. We still have a chance. Maybe they’ll fuck it up?
>>2684152Xing in for my relic
>>2684152And zero players left with a pulse. A retirement home where everybody is BiS and level 75 is bad custom content with completely made up stats
>>2684152Don’t forget you have to do custom content to enter the new expansion that’s been in development for four years and they’re going to ladder pull dynamis after letting people abuse it for those 4 years
*slurps the streamers* yep here is ancient content we stole from other people that we claim we didthank u
zzzzzz
FFXI returning to consoles never
please don't light me on fire but i'm actually pretty excited for toau since it seems that besieged will be implemented
>checks thread>phoenix schizo crashing outpredictable desu
>>2685609Everyone hates on Besieged but it was so much fun back in the day. Even if it isn't the best now I still want to play it.
>>2685609>he thinks horizon ToAU will have anything workingLOL
>>2685609It's gonna be streamer soishit>>2685668Besieged was laggy garbage where you randomly died to things you couldn't see attacking you. Not exactly peak content.That's also not mentioning if you were dead during the end cutscene of Besieged you got ZERO rewards, meaning you just wasted 30 mins to 1hr+ for literally NOTHING
>>2685886yeah Eden was working on ToAU for years and they're still not finished. I think ex-Horizonites are desperate for a sniff of ToAU pussy even if it is one tier of assaults and colibris lmao
>>2686685patch notes:colibris will now resist piercing damage by 90%.assaults will now have Beira NPCs blocking you from progression unless your whole party simultaneously /kneels to her. This is to test the AV mechanics btw.
>>2686725the question is if the turban nerfs that were proposed years ago go live.
>>2686726kek... I forgot about that...
>>2686726Turban is 2% haste in Aerec’s current build
>>2686726Should be. it's free and an auto-include bis for haste sets, which we all agree is lame.Phoenixers will have to enjoy everybody wearing a turban, though.
>>2686950>nerfing iconic items everyone loves in a poorly thought out manner is what everyone agrees is best The horizon copium is reaching historic levels
>>2686950It's the most iconic item of the expansion, nerfing the one people get for free is pretty dumb. Even nerfing Haidate would have been better.
>>2687014>>2687023>create a server around balancing and era+>nerf free OP item>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT! LEAVE MY TURBY ALONEEEEEEE TURBAN IS ICONICPathetic Phoenixers. Don't worry, your handout is waiting for you.
>>2687014nerfing hagun wasn't a good call eitheronimaru is basically the same power as un nerfed hagun, though if you boost 2k fTP point for gekko it can be worse
>>2687114bwo people have been saying stuff like this since before phoeniXXers existed
>>2687120Pathetic then pathetic now. The difference is I know half of the people here now are gassing up Phoenix and sucking on Kipling's ballsack.>>2687117Ah yes let's un-nerf that so we can have hagun samurai everywhere, which ironically is how Phoenix is going to look.
how is what you're doing not "gassing up" horizon then
onimaru is better for true era and it's not close"""people""" are just mathlets
>make observations from my comfy little off-grid private server>'stop gassing up horizon we're REALLY desperate to make phoenix work bro'you're just mad i'm right
tru, we all love ffEra here even if it's inaccurate garbage
You don't understand, the turban should have as much haste as the Panther Mask +1 because I worked really hard for my Ace's Helmet.
>>26869022%? what do you need 1% for? wait, you want the 20 hp/mp for convert?
>>2687187Actually Turban should be 25% haste so you can TP in hecatomb
why is every private server community like this?
>>2687462"men" and their fragile egos
>>2687462Untreated mental illness.
>>2687476men stopped playing ffxi
>>2687187Don't worry! AEREC is creating a world where cop lasts forever!
>>2687499No men or women, only trannies.
hey faggots, just thought i would let you all know you are patheticthats all, thanks for your time, you know the time you clearly dont valuefaggots
So anyway. What's the word on the other new servers, Zenith and Calamity?
>>2688169Both DoA
so is there a fucking private server that isnt a shitshow or does everyone here just shit talk all of them?
>>2688200the rope is the only option, sorry chudletgo get a job you fuckin loser
>>2688179Guess that makes three.>>2688200Depends on your definition of shitshow.
>>2688219Hey AerecKYS
>>2688223Calm down Thris I'm sure your Eden knockoff will do just fine.
>>2688200>or does everyone here just shit talk all of them?what do you think? this is 4cuck
>>2688233I'm sure your decrepit, ban-happy, gil inflated, stolen content server will have an infinite amount of bugs on ToAU launch and be unplayable for at least 6 months.I'm sure those rando nobody devs are totally going to get shit fixed asap right? I hope so chudlet
Interesting new campaign starting this friday. with this + that imprimatur restocking buff they did a while back this means you could potentially get yourself an Idris/Epeolatry in under a month. Hueg news for newfag GEOs/RUNs
>>2688416fvark...
a lot of tedius bullshit I thought would be in the game forever have just been silently improved while I was gone.... next they'll raise crepuscular cloak drop rate
>>2688443>next they'll raise crepuscular cloak drop rateHaha....no.
Retail has PoE1 levels of bloat, its embarassing.
Well its been fun bros
>>2688458*cums on u*
>>2688313Still has more players than you.
>>2688531>My server has more players than a server that isn't releasedHow do you manage breathing on a daily basis being this stupid?
>>2688560You're at zero lil gup. You're going to stay there, too. lol.
>>2688563>Saying literally nothing I take that as a surrender, ill accept it.
fuck Horizonfuck Phoenix
>the pigeon knocks over the pieces, shits on the board and declares itself the victorPhoenixers are not sending their best. Have you beta tested Salvage yet or are you too busy astroturfing 4chan?
>>2688580Fuck you
>>2688582You are the one not making arguments and shitting up the board like a spastic retard.Everything i have said has been 100% provable fact, you have said nothing of value and just enjoy trolling like the troglodyte you are.
>>2688457I could handle itWhat I cant handle is the community acceptance of bots, services, and RMT
>>2688580The first based take in months
>>2688612I see nothing wrong here, some people dont have time to grind, deal with it or GTFO.
>>2688633Between this and all the PvP cheating in XIV se is really fucking things upMeanwhile SE’s Japanese only MMO- DQX- is fucking squeaky clean. If you even think of RMT they’ll blast your balls clean off.
>>2688597The wailings of an impotent banned horizon retard who needs to get revenge with his cool new FFXI server. Dead on arrival.
>>2688457You can ignore like all of adoulin. What a dumb expansion
>>2688697Two wrongs dont make a right anon.
>>2688597>>2688313>shitting up the board like a spastic retard.lmao can you lay off horizon for one day? What did aerec do? bang your mom?
>>2688714banned prob.
>bored>bored, say nigger>bored, get banned for saying nigger>bored, obsess over people who banned you for saying nigger>bored, make it your entire personality to be mad at the people who banned you for saying nigger
>>2688714The only time i rest is when horizon xi is shut down.
>>2688728Homie needs to get laid
>>2688702filtered
>>2688748Just force them to release the source because they are violating the AGPL without it.Yes there is AGPL code in their codebase.
Phoenix is the designated shitlord migration server, pass it on.
>>2688861Since you will likely be there, i guess that applies technically speaking.
Horizon is the HNM tranny containment server
>>2688899we're not trannies :(
>>2688861I thought that was Eventide or uh... whats the other one?
>>2688876>>2688899>>2688971>>2688979containment server part 2: electric boogaloo
>>2688876>>2688899Lads, both of your shit piles are awful, calm down
Shut the fuck up Spicyryan
>>2689474ehm... I changed my name
>>2688200private servers are fine, they have different styles. the people you see schizoposting about them on here are ones who got banned for fish botting or using racial slurs while not sexting a dev
>>2689478Shut the fuck up Saltyryan
>>2688200Like it or not Horizon is the only choice if you want to play with people. None of the others have come even close to the population. Anyone who says otherwise is coping or banned on Horizon.
>>2688200Phoenix is your only option for 75 era content, open beta is july 9th.Horizon is a mess with developers that dont know what they are doing, making custom content that ruins the game, people basically cheating but because they pay the devs they dont get banned (botting / automation). It took horizon 4 years to release ToAU and the only reason its coming is because phoenix devs are making it happen on their server, but because they aren't doing ti closed source Horizon, or rather Aerec can just steal their work and use it for their own server.Horizon is on its way out, dont listen to any of the sunken cost shills here, they are just terrified of their server dying.If you want a fresh start without all the nonsense and lack of development horizon has then just wait for phoenix to release.
>>2690131>they are just terrified of their server dying.it's confirmed that aerec and beasty feel this way too
>>2690151proof?
>>2568870Horizon shills are scared.
>>2690131>server that isn't playable yet>is your only option???
horizon isn't playable either
>>2690239Beta is in 3 days bud, release is in 2 months or so, possibly earlier depending.
Sell me on Phoenix without seething about other servers.
>>2690243https://phoenix-xi.com/blog/phoenix-flames-issue-01Start from here and work your way down, not going to explain every detail here.
>>2690254All that I got out of that was that they want to make inventory management even more miserable than it is everywhere else.
NEW THREAD>>2690270NEW THREAD>>2690270NEW THREAD>>2690270
>>2690262it's true era, not fake garbage.
>>2690292I honestly don't give a fuck about everything being 100% true as we will never have that and inventory space is one of those problem areas of this game even with the stacking.I do like that they're all about the open source development. Horizonfags hold onto their code and all that work is probably gonna disappear when the server goes down.
>>2690369>and inventory space is one of those problem areas of this game even with the stacking.wrong
>>2690262>make inventory management even more miserable than it is everywhere elseYES YES YES! This is what I want!
Reminder Kipling is a pedophile.
