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inb4 horizon shills
yeah im playing zenith. the food rework looks better than anything horizon has made
2nd for OP is a Phoenigger for changing the OP
>>2690270>Auravia - https://auraviaxi.com/um bros are we sure that's alive?click the link kek
oh I see why phoenixxers are uppity. Horizon revealed their toau launch trailer lol. Peenixers still aren't even done beta testing? LOLhttps://youtu.be/h4bXBqjBRtM
>>2690305that trailer is really bad holy
>>2690305Horizon will have ToAU a full month and a half before Phoenix. Explains the excessive schizo melties over the weekend.
>>2690307They are rushing to not have Phoenix beat them. It’s all gonna be rushed slop with no quality control
>>2690305>A bunch of ToAU footage from another server and a video of their launcher and their new discord icon.Phoenix sisters, are we shaking in our boots yet? or have the horizon team stolen our boots as well as the content they took 4 years NOT to make?
>>2690307Yeah, way too long. Whoever made it doesn't have experience, which is fine. Most of private XI is made by hobbyists willing to give it a shot. In contrast to Phoenix's though at least it actually shows ToAU content.It's funny watching these two servers in their rat race.
aerec played you guys like a fiddleyou thought you would launch your own toau BITCH YOU THOUGHT LMAO
>>2690325I cant wait to see how bad it is, im looking forward to the dumpster fire more than any of this shit lmfao.
>>2690338They are rushing so hard they’re not doing a beta like they did for launch and the rebase either.. shits gonna be so broken lol. Phoenix really has them scared
>>2690305>mega jittery>shows boring shit we already know about>slurps streamersit's shit.
>>2690386>Has to use streamers and their 4 year old launcher in their trailer because they literally have nothing else to show after 4 years
>>2690336releasing it with no beta with a shit ton of custom changes, surely it will go well
Anonny, your choices. Pick carefully.>buggy rushed toau (fresh)>buggy rushed toau (old)
>>2690395Tempted by fresh but it will take so fucking long to get to unlocking toau jobs.
>>2690388the launcher looks like a recreation and not the actual laucherprobably fine, but why even include it
>>2690386>>2690388>>2690393Uhm yeah okay but Horizon has thousands of players and I already have a character there that I put hundreds of hours into already. I think I'll wait it out ^^. No bueno on starting over.
>>2690395the fresh has been in the works for literally a year, they are having an open beta then a launch 2 months later, not sure i would quantify that as rushed considering they are literally just refining LSB to make it as perfect as possible.
>>2690401Have fun with the custom slop, bugs, and gil inflation, im sure you will do just fine.
>>2690402>not launching with at least 80% of the toau content ready to playit's rushed. Phoenix is confirmed to only have up to mission 18 of ToAU done lmao.
>>2690399Brother you are playing FFXI, "fucking long" is a feature, fresh servers are like crack cocaine for me.
>>2690410You realize that means horizon is going to be around the same boat right? or have you not realized they are piggy backing off their work?
>>2690413Why would you so flagrantly expose yourself as being unemployed?>>2690418Yeah but at least I, and many other players won't have to redo absolutely everything from scratch.
>>2690401>^^you forgot the semicolon since you're SWEATIN that its gonna SUCK
>>2690424>You cant enjoy a fresh experience without being joblessOk.... lol
>>2690413Sure but like there's so much shit to do on fresh I'm not sure if I will even get to toau before I run out of steam.
>>2690424Look dude you do what you want, but having faith in horizon is a really bad idea, if the last 4 years hasnt showed this im not sure anyone can convince you.
you guys won't want to play horizon toau when the job changes are outt. knower
>>2690432>you should not have faith in horizon>you should instead have faith in me, the guy who got chased out of horizon after 3 years>i will lead us to glorious toau land>>2690428yes nigga era FFXI is notoriously bad at respecting your time you have to be unemployed to not see how long it takes to get shit done in this game
mental illness
>>2690441>t. Horizon Shill>The dev who did a ton of work on my server that i have sunken cost in is now le bad becasue he le left >Is somehow coming to the realization that FFXI is a huge time sink but the other le heckin server wastes more of le heckin time so it is heckin le badYou guys are really bad at trolling you know that?
>>2690438What are they doing to puppetmaster?
>>2690441so you should have faith in Aerec, who slurps streamer cock, is notoriously retarded for literally everything including massively hated "job balance"?ok bro
>>2690410I don't see why starting with less content means its "rushed" atleast not in the case of Phoenix, they have been pretty thorough with their content PRs
>>2690459"Job balance"*Nerfs or changes something**Realizes they screwed up but instead of admitting fault ads a bandaid fix**Takes full advantage of changes and then reverts them back to era accuracy so its way harder for newer players**End game is literally the same as it was in era so the "changes" did nothing except make people not play samurai*
That's a lot of text but.. I'm just not starting over, HAHA.
>>2690466you can just quit you know, you dont need to hold onto sunk cost
>>2690473Why would I quit? That character isn't going anywhere. I'm othergaming until ToAU.
*othergames ur ass*
>>2690410>he doesn’t know SE released TOAU in small patches over time LARP
>>2690458WAFOIts not just pup anon
>4 year old server>dedicated population of thousands of players>insanely saturated endgamesurely whitegate wont crash?
>>2690508I wanna know about PUP changes though.
>>2690517the pup "changes" are just them not auditing anything about the job and having it be made up dogshit. there you go.
>>2690491>comparing your private server pet project to a live service mmo>square enix didn't release all of it in one go therefore me and my 2 buddies can take 5 years to drip feed you ToAU content, that's era accurate lil guplmao
>>2690547reminder that SE themselves finished ToAU inside WoTG, and finished WoTG inside the third abyssea expansionAerec-P will use that against the players
>>2690455Both of your servers are gay relax
Clvcking in fvr my windvw. How many more years until an item drops?
>>2690671xing in
>>2690671An item COULD drop, but then its rarity decreases and it means less to the people that got it in the first month. You wouldn't want that, would you?
>>2690731*hides my 6 relics behind me*oh geez man I didn't think about that, I absolutely don't want people who got the drops first to feel bad about it
one second gotta x in for my good boy points today, maybe one day ill have enough
horizons way easier than era but community was fun untill aerec killed it he's using more streamers to cover his tracks
>>2690786>Aerec used Smug Smile.>Its super effectiveUh oh is someone having a melty!
xing in
X UP BOYS AND TRANSGIRLS ITS TIME!
so whats the next NM that will get turned into a steaming pile of shit like JoL?
>>2691105Expect everything in Horizon’s TOAU to be of the same quality as JOL and the IS event… so garbage
>>2691105>>2691232You sound like a bunch of phoenix sissies, fuck off if you dont like horizon.You're lucky I cant find out what your account is on here or i would ban you myself anon.
>>2691246What’s your account name?
>>2691246Damarus had 4 years to fix gardening, and all he accomplished was ... nothing, except crying so much about Kipling stealing his kirins that Kipling branched off from Horizon. Good job, idiot.
>>2691270Yourwifesboyfriend
>>2691282Perfection takes time anon.
>>26913004 years... 4 long years to say there's nothing wrong with gardening and every dev on horizon that's looked says it's fine...*cough* *wheeze* if only... there were better devs... for horizon...
>>2691306Keep complaining and ti will take another 4 years anon.
FORGET I SAID ANYTHING! FAAAAARK*ASSUMES THE DOGEZA POSITION* FORGIVE ME DAMARUS-SAMA!!!
Horizon chuds get an unconfirmed date (12/24/2024 btw) of a tiny bug riddled update after 4 years of broken promises and they say thank you and lube up their gaping era+ assholes even more. Truly shameless cuckold behavior
lookin forward to whitegate crashing infinitely
>>2691306Like whom? All the devs on Phoenix were devs on Horizon. They didn't magically get better overnight.
>>2691372Don't worry bro, "someone" will be working on it!
>>2691341Worried, phoenixer? you should be. Aerec is about to drop a bomb on your ass.
>>2691383drop a fat shart onto the boat deck
You can tell all the Horizoniggers are petrified because they are playing defense and spamming the thread. Overlord Aerec probably sent out the signal to all drones
>>2691306Dont worry damarus will make custom gardening slop for toau and professor_crabdance will magically discover it on accident while streaming
>>2691413Oh my god WAOW!!! *era+ onions face*
who looks at era xi and goes 'sign me up baby wooooo yeah time to kill 400 lizards to gain a level' 'gonna stand in dragons aery for 4 hours only to watch fafnir spawn claimed thats the good shit'
>>2691427Xing in for fafnir
gonna spend 5 hours in sea competing against other people so i can kill a nm that only has one rare drop lmao ONE ITEM
>>2691427Don't lap my valkurm kino in with endgameslop
>>2691445sea has got to be the most fucking shit content SE has ever made
>>2691383He couldnt even ship ToAU in 3 years, the only thing thats dropping is horizon's population numbers.
>>2691508Real
>>2691508If your victory were assured there would be no need for your constant shilling and doom campaign.
"victory"who fucking cares retard
>20 gil has been deposited into your phoenix account
>20 imperial standing has been deposited in your horizon accountBetter hurry up and get 10,000 points if you want to keep up with all of the staff getting there first!
>>2691457>do 4 jols>0 noviosPeak sea. don't forget>NM that can pop from JoL is near unkillable and will rape your entire alliance for fun
So yeah anyway I'm not worried about Horizon releasing ToAU before Phoenix launches. I'm just going to post on the /vm/ xig thread 24/7 shouting down anybody who isn't fully latched on to Kipling's ballsack.
>>2691548Why are you latched onto Aerec's ballsack?
>>2691427i play the game. the number goes up. i have a good time. when the number can no longer go up, i quit until the number can go up again.
>>2690305it's ok, both of your servers suck, and the people who play on them also suck.
people who don't play on them suck too
>>2691427Camping HNMs is cancer, just dont do that.
>>2691694look, i NEED to X up and I NEED my number to go up in a sea of a THOUSAND members who all KNEEL to LORD NATEN!
>>2691694>just don't do half the game bro>just farm the leeches bro you can buy ixions cloak from a hnm ls lol
>hnm>>>>half the game>>>>needing an ixion cloak
>he doesn't compete for anythingyour cavemen ancestors would shake their headsanyway xing in for this kb window
>>2690473the redditification of the sunk cost fallacy is a failing of american education
all this seethe and none of it is about how anonna called aerec "our fearless visionary leader" in the mog house? cmon schizos, you can do better than this
>Tell everyone to quit their private servers and go to Horizon because Horizon has the pop and the other servers suck, for years>'NOOO NOT LIKE THAT, STOP GOING TO HORIZON, COME TO MY NEW CHOSEN SERVER, THIS ONE WILL BE BETTER'not falling for it twice
>>2691694>>2691743Faf / Nid / Behe are all going to be pops on Phoenix FYI so the camping for hours cancer on Z kings is a non-issue.
>>2692186Let's play would you rather, that's a fun game.Would you rather farm 99 kindred seals or semi-afk at Behemoth
farm 99 kindred seals
Farm 99 KS
>farming ks when your ls neet/wfh crowd will do it for you
>>2692230Farm 99 KS
>>2692230Only dumb trannys like Alaris and Shirahime want to hang out at behemoth
>>2692377Uh oh Winter melty!
who?
>>2692230Would you rather have 1 dollar or 2
You can tell when the Phoeniggers are posting because they namefag nobodies. Must be seething because Lord Aerec beat them!
Good lord, I left this board 2 months ago, you guys are still bitching over Horizon and Phoenix. Why?
>>2692893Untreated mental illness.
Alaris sounds like the perfect trans girl name to me
>>2692893I would just recommend either filtering the thread or coming back never because it's going to be a constant dick measuring contest until next year probably, and more. I don't know if we can make a separate thread for retail.
>>2692937you can try but the jannies seem to have abandoned xi threads, every single one turns into a schizo private server staff convention
So who fell for the Ponzi scheme and downloaded the phoenix launcher/infostealer/keylogger/rat onto their pc
>>2690270DRGgods...
Just play retail. It's $12, not a buggy piece of shit, has the same grind we all love to hate at LV99 instead of 75, don't have to waste hours with your Linkshell camping a fucking HNM while doing nothing else, can build your relics on your own time, and best of all, don't have to worry about SE shoving a cease-and-desist order up your precious private server's asshole.
Would you rather have ToAU 5 years into your servers lifespan or have it at launch but you have to wait like a month to play
I just don't understand the need to bicker back and forth over private server shit. Pick what you want to play and play it. Horizon, Phoenix, CatsEye, whatever, pick one and have fun with it. I've been on Legendary XI myself. Good server and a good community so far, they opened a week ago.
Holy fuck the Phoenix launcher shits on Horizon’s
why would i play phoenix when horizon exists?
>>2693631Because PAFO and era+ are fucking gay (sounds like you like that though)
>>2693631>you want to start fresh>you don't like custom era+ PAFO changes>you have something against Aerec personally>you've never played 75era FFXI so you might as well start on a new server instead of one that's a few years oldTake your pick
>>2693644>>2693647sounds fair. i don't have loyalty to a server. i was just asking since they're both """""""""era""""""""" and """"""""""oldschool""""""""" i guess. figured id ask. thanks anons.
>>2693406>don't have to waste hours with your Linkshell camping a fucking HNM while doing nothing elsejesus christ have you played retail that's literally all you do for a while when you're making an empy weapon or doing magians. unless you plan on hitting 99 and gearing up with that fabulous sparks shit, soloing most of the missions and quitting
>>2693406i think trusts are for fags and killed the game because it removed any need to party and be social and building relationships for the entirety of the leveling process.
>>2693647Horizon:pozzed aids-filled slop and Aerec's in charge. Stuck in perpetual limbo. Phoenix:The same shit but with some other queef in chargeI pick neither.
>>2693653"Hey buddy old pal, you wanna pl me to 99 in 2 hours with your bst?""Sure thing buddy old pal, let me summon kupofried the only trust that actually matters.""Awwe sick thanks bro""no problem just go afk behind the stump I'll have you queefed up in a jiff"
>>2693655alright man
it's the same retards running these servers because they keep fighting and can't all dev a single server to be good why does it matter where you play? population is what matters because that makes the game playableif phoenix or zenith can get a population I will play but if not I won't
who are the biggest handful of gil buyers on horizon, who is allowing aerec to quit his day job and do this?
>>2693653>i think trusts are for fags and killed the game because it removed any need to partytrusts are too weak and stupid to do real content tbqh desu famalam
>>2693647I feel like Horizon gating ToAU access has been seemingly forgotten but that's still a thing. You need to do busy work or blow gil to get in when it actually releases, they're pulling a Microsoft and you have to pay extra(with time or in game currency) to access the content when it first comes out.
>>2694255Is this real?
>>2694298You need 5k imperial seals to get boat access when it launches and I believe 10k for easy access. So you're looking at around 5 million or 10 million gil depending on which type of access you want but then they also added event monsters that drop seals that you can compete against others for. So get grinding or get paying if you want to get in when it actually releases.
>>2694314sounds very era minus... I mean plus of them
>>2694314
>>2694382No wonder why Aerec sells gil
>>2694382
>>2694382more profitable than selling drugs
>>2694383>Generate kill>Sell gil to websites>Make a ton of money>Ban the people one by one over a period of time for RMT>They buy again>Rinse repeatIts the perfect business model, everyone wins!
>>2694397
I can't believe I gave away thousands of dollars worth of gil when I stopped playing...
>>2694402>>2694399He will ban your account forever if you undercut him.
>>2694314You don’t need to do any of that. You can do 0 and still get access day 1, but you have to farm items instead, which he said will be easy drops. The only caveat to that will be fighting other people over monster claims. Also, it’s fairly easy to farm IS. Just wait for other people to pop the world bosses, spam AoE spell of choice, tag the boss, and afk til more minions pop.
>>2693787Horizon already has a population. The best. I also already have a character there.It's the unemployed retards seething at Aerec who want you to start from the bottom again on some would-be new king of private xi.
>>2694411Are they changing the quest? On Eden I did the 6 support job items option to obtain the permit. That's pretty easy and could be prepped even before the patch hits.
>>2694437English in the 1600's and 1700's had this exact same train of thought while others went to America.
>>2694445lmao nigga get a grip
>>2694443iirc they are basically offering early access to the zones initially. you can't get in the default ways, you need to pay with seals and only seals because they have waited for long to release toau that most players are already at end game and will be trying to enter at the same time which would crash the servers. you can get in the regular ways eventually but after the initial rush, maybe a few weeks or months after everyone else?
>>2694443A little, they said new items during the stream, but easy to get from level 30+ mobs upwards, but the items aren't releasing until the day of.
>>2694455You heard wrong. Everyone has the same chance on day 1 but it just depends if you farmed IS early or farm mob drops day 1.
>>2694455>>2694471>>2694475Well that's retarded.
>>2694475>theyre not changing the quest >here’s how they are changing it
So Phoenix is just a single box eden with some worse features that needs to be coded from scratch?Is Setsu behind this one?
>>2694488what i said was apparently wrong so him correcting it is pretty important.
>>2694500Yeah her petition finally got enough signatures
>>2694500Worse, Kipling.
Was naming the server Phoenix a good idea? If your trying to look things up you get results for the retail server
>>2694500>>2694513>>2694517Samefag spam
>>2694517They asked ChatGPT.
>>2694518You'd like that wouldn't you
>>2694518Do these next>>2692334>>2692339>>2692368>>2692377
>>2694525AI image
>>2692926Yeah she is trans. She even made her FFXIV character look transgender https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2870409/
>>2694529Goes well with your AI generated code
Whinersolstice melty!
>giving rewards to people to beta test your gameyea i'm out
>>2694575Horizon did it too that means it’s good. Did your handler forget that part of your prompt?
>>2694599Don't give a fuck about Horizon m8 you've got to come up with some better arguments
>>2694605Sure bud you’re just spending every waking minute in this forum to yell about a competing server for no reason
>>2694618Who brought up Horizon? you did.
>forumTourist
>>2694518Wrong, I'm only one of those. But try again lil bro.
>>2694550I don't know which is worse. Her apparently being trans or Winter melting down over a trans.
>>2694575Whats the problem with this? The devs find bugs to fix and the players get some cosmetic stuff that doesnt matter, seems like a win win for everyone
holy shit it does
Has someone come up with a list of what items/crafts are the best turn in ratios for this ISNM content? It's slop but I don't want to fight 2000 people for the same item on day 1.
>>2694517maybe it's some 5d chess attempt at avoiding shut down but it's not like squeenix has gone after any of the existing private servers so idk why would they bother with that and make it shit for finding anything about the server
>>2694829>Why is abusing FOMO a bad idealollmao even
>>2694893same reason for being an anonymous shitposter is a bad idea
>>2694893The item is either going to be dogshit at which point people who participated are going to be annoyed, or it's going to be something unobtainable at which point people who did not participate are going to be upset.I hope it's the latter because it would be so funny to watch.
the items are all retarded cosmeticsjust like horizondaddy horizon couldn't do any wrong right?
>>2694902r*ddit is more your speed lil gup. you can go get banned for not agreeing with atomos
>>2694829You're talking to a horizon shill, probably one of the do-nothing "Devs" lol
>>2694399>Paypigs being milked dry in a continuous loop of making an account >> buying gil >> getting banned.Wow Aerec is unironically based, everyone should play horizon!
>>2694920m00t would rape you
>Alaris <Winters>has this been an elaborate troll this whole time...?
>>2694907they're literal cosmetics, they showed them on the websiteit's a hat and some MH furniture
>>2694907The only people I can see caring are those that look for bugs but can't find any so can't get their rewards.
>>2695058Can't see very far then can you
>>2695073Didn't exactly turn people away from Horizon, did it?
>>2695094look, MY double standards are morally in the right
>>2695094If replicating Horizon is your objective I want nothing to do with it.
This thread makes a lot more sense when you realize it’s just trans woman hands like Rahne, Alaris and Electroslag spamming and same fagging themselves/each other about FFXI TMZ shit and niche micro celebrities to live out some weird vengeance fantasy on an anonymous message board because they’re too cowardly to do it to someone’s face
>>2695142Incentivizing people to bug test for you with useless cosmetics is fine in both cases. Lockstyle? For fags. Housing decorations? For fags. Try not to suck any dicks on your way to retail.
t. self hating fag btw
>>2695156>cosmetics is fine in both casesnah. I don't like it, it's gross. I bet you're one of those faggots who runs around in le funny meme costume 24/7. Repulsive. I want the real era, not this goofy trans shit. Phoenix looking to copy Horizon is grim, desu.
>>2695205>I bet you're one of those faggots who runs around in le funny meme costume 24/7.Never go to Vegas then when I explicitly called out lockstyle.
>>2695213Retard. Both are stupid. Lockstyle is out of your era, too. Yet you're keeping it for your 'era' server.
>>2695151t. Wintersolstice, lover of trannies like Alaris, Electroslag, and Rahne.
>>2695229I just looked up electroslut, why is her twitch gone? lol
>wake up on Phoenix>quickly lockstyle my new worm head and subligar I received for reporting the most bugs in the beta (308 bugs reported)>none of the 7 items I listed on the auction house sold, I don't have space to hold them so I just toss them>walk to the auction house, fred has a new funny lockstyle today lmao he's almost naked xD>my linkshell is popping 18 fafnirs today so I need to get my buffer back up>i think about doing some ToAU content later but then i remember that only about 20% of it is ready to play>tomorrow i guess i'll redo all the promyvions again because that is always an enjoyable experience in final fantasy 11>i say i miss my horizon character in linkshell chat and immediately teleport to mordion gaol where kipling is waiting with his cock out
>>2695279but enough about Zenith
>>2695276banned for grooming
>>2694941>get bannedLOL, LMAO even.
>>2695293Wow zenith sounds fun!!
>>2695385Spicyryan, Setsuko and Gwei are running it. it's gonna be great
>>2695279No one wants to hear about your perverse fantasies chudlet
>>2695395What's a fantasy? That's how Phoenix is going to be lmao
>wake up on horizon>X in>X in>X in>X in>Say I'm tranny, immediately accosted by 10 devs
Oh he mad lol. At least try to put some effort into your shitposts.
Xing in right now
Finally an era server without dual boxing and it's open source
you aren't supposed to like that...
You can tell how scared Horizon chuds are cause they’ve been spamming the thread about OTHER SERVERS instead of their own even after a “release date” was supposedly posted. They’ve got nothing
>>2695682they're working on grinding the era minus mechanic
>>2695618Oh shit? New server? I just looked at Pheonix and it's got a bunch of weird out of era changes.
yeah I really like the stacked items all other era servers have. It's just like 2013!
No no I mean the lockstyle, forced spawn hnm, the out of era level sync to name but a few. Weird, right?
no one would play without lockstyle or level synceven Eden has those
*loud incorrect buzzer*
retard
there is no true era serverEven Eden is customized, and you don't even know it
lmao caught. Eden has era accurate level sync and no lockstyle. Phoenixxers have a copy paste of horizon's level sync LOL
>he doesn't know
He doesn’t know ball. He doesn’t know the people who made Horizon’s system are the Phoenix devs. Hmm interesting. Horizon had tons of traction before all those people left. Now it has none, and Phoenix has all the traction and dev power. It’s almost like all the good people left and went to Phoenix.
yeah man can't wait to kill the OOE birds in riverne with OOE /ra mechanics to gain incorrect EXP on EdenIf only it wasn't dual box...
You guys are literal retards huh? I don't care who made it. EXP penalties beyond 10 level difference is custom Horizonshit. Indefensible. >>2695797>imagemoving goalposts, anonny? I'm not talking about level-restricted areas.
>>2695795>good peoplelol LMAO even
damn... I can't believe it.... EDEN HAS BETRAYED ME!
Come play on my Era server anonnie. We have.. uh.. oh no.....okay the only era thing we have is BLM/SMN at every HNM and items won't stackcome on down it will be a blast we promise
>>2695815>BLM/SMN at every HNMholy fuck i'm Xing in AUTOMATICALLY! WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THESE XS!!
>>2695812All of these frothing retards don’t know this cause they can barely read
>>2695821Even though you can pop 15 fafnirs you can't get your linkshell to let you melee him LOL
>>2695812This is based though? If you're for this you should also be against Phoenix having 4 mog wardrobes.
Oh no not like that. I want the economy to be ass and I want the fights to be as trivial as possible while I walk around with 20 individual gearsets and allow gearswap to play the game for me.
>>2695795the good people are those that contribute to the open source server development and these server devs just steal their work
>>2695844>and allow gearswap to play the game for me.We love luashitacast here CHUD
>>2695844Gearswap was a mistake. When are we gonna get a server with the authentic experience as devs intended it that blocks gearswap in combat?
>>2695869>When are we gonna get a server with the authentic experience as devs intended it that blocks gearswap in combat?detection is not really feasible and it would trip false positives too oftent. knower
>>2695873That sounds weird. The server should handle what the player has equipped and it should know when the player is in combat. It should be trivial to prevent changing of equipment mid combat. I could see it leading to display bugs on the client which might be harder to solve with the client being the mess that it is.
SE has always allowed equip changes mid combat via menus or /equip commandswhat you seem to want is Custom Bullshit
>Sunk cost retards grasping at strawsI think it's great they're letting the community vote on harmless QOL, but any server without a lying dictator using gold X's to fuel his ego sounds good to me
>>2695858Yes like I said the Phoenix devs are good because their work is entirely open source
>>2695938*cries and slaps this with a golden X*WE DON'T NEED TO REBASE!*LOCKS THE THREAD*
>>2695922They've openly stated when they made the game they didn't intend for players be to swapping gear so much. Do a little reading, newfriend.
And yet they did nothing to stop it.And then they added /equip macrosAnd then they added macro setsAnd then they added equipsetskill yourself retard
>>2695806Except Wings did it first, because they came from Eden (and previously, Nasomi) and saw that it was cancer without that restriction.
Oh he big mad. Relax friend :)
>>2695956All gigantic mistakes which made the game easier, good job detailing the timeline for all of us.
>uhh.. SE DIDN'T WANT IT*WAAAAAAAH SE KEPT MAKING IT A PART OF THE GAME*
leave the 240 mog wardrobe slots and ashitacast alone
>>2695987why he look like kipling
>>2696048Chad status
I don't what you niggas say, I'm gonna start on Phoenix and be a FSH main.
>I don't what
>>2695956at 75 era there isnt that much equipment to swap into, you might have a set for haste and stp, and another for weapon skills, or two for WS if you're extra fancy. You might also have relic/AF pieces to swap into, it's nowhere near as bad as it is now. I hve 8 mog wardrobes and i can fit all the gear i use on one class into two of them so that limits me really to four classes per character because of equipment limitations.
>>2694314You can't just farm the 6 subjob items? Why did they add something else?
>>2697232Because it's Horizon, why wouldn't it be retarded?
>>2697232Because they want people to do the custom content they made instead of farm items and sit on them.
>>2697256This is the answer. Horizon is just Aerec’s retarded playground
>>2695276she's on trial for saying "legalize dueling" and shooting someone
>>2697256Got it.
>>2695151i'm one of the people named here and i come exclusively to say "who?" when you have these little schizo episodes lol. idk who any of these people are and i never will
>>2696055bounce on it a lil harder
>>2697389C'mon, Aerec, lighten up.
>>2697459you must be getting eiffel towered by these guys for you to be so obsessed with them. kipling hitting the back and aerec in the front? or do you like the taste of sweat
>>2697462It's not my fault you decided to dedicate the best years of your life to vegetating on some server that's about to die, or the DOA server that's about to replace it.
>>2697509how old do you think i am lmfao>already spent the best years of my life drinking, dancing, and fucking
>>2697547>already spent the best years of my life drinking, dancing, and fucking>DrinkingTranslation: Aging your body, taxing your liver by intentionally poisoning yourself, a legal drug.>DancingTranslation: HA GAAAAAAY>FuckingTranslation: Fishing for STDs that will make the remainder of your life miserable, if you found a breeder wife, cool. If not, you are a shortsighted fool.Bro you could have said something like "Well i spent the past years of my life becoming a better wagie" and i would have respected you more (though not by much).
1k+ characters made before the beta's started.Even Aerec's playing!
>>2698597Keep my boyfriends name out of your fuckin mouth anon!
>>2698594>t. 4 relics
>>26986295 actually chud, just got excal done a month ago, wagies on sudoku watch
>>2695869>>2695873>>2695918>>2695918Retail has the Encumbrance status debuff used by some mobs, which locks gear swapping. The support for it is definitely there. Retail may be too far gone for this to add now as a challenge, but private servers aren't. Not like you'll be able to change most player's minds to actually play anything that custom though. They're too mazed, and CatsEye + that other vaporware server are the only ones close to changing that standard. Basically, most XIers are still stuck in the WoW Classic "No Changes" phase until the heat death of the universe
>>2698597Are those for the beta or main release itself?
>>2699096People reserving names. Each account can have 2 characters so just take the number by half. Only 50% of their 1k discord population...
>>2699130I see, thanks. Being able to do support tickets via the site instead of only on discord is pretty cool.
>>2699130Pretty good participation for beta
>>2699130Not even, names are wiped. This is just people who want to play the beta to bug test
Does the beta happen today?
>>2699353Tomorrow
>>2699214Yeah well, you hit niggas with some FOMO and they'll come slurp your nuts. That's not new.
>>2699376That only matters if people care about the project to begin with. Seems like there’s a lot of excitement for it either way
>>2699401Fair point
>>2699358Cool, thanks anon.
>>2699130>1k discord populationthat doesn't bode to well for the server
>>2699596It’s much more than that actually
>>2699596>T. horizon cuck
>>2699596Wings had a whipping 89 people online when I first joined. It took years to get to almost 1000 concurrent
>>2699608I hope it does not go higher. This is unironically the sweet spot. When you surpass 2k players online everything becomes a drag. Sky is full, Dynamis/limbus is taken or reserved, world farms and NMs are camped, exp locations swarmed. Everyone wants a populated server until it starts looking like modern day India and the behavioral sink kicks in.
>>2699608>>26996792k members turns into maybe 100 online after the first couple months
for comparison horizon has 40khard to say what it had before launch but don't fool yourself into thinking that 2k on discord will result on an active serverof course phoenix has time to grow still
>>2699709Horizon’s discord had around 2,000 in it before their beta so seems on par with horizons growers rate so far
>>2699709Sorry man... its just... im not playing on horizonI KNOW its just i dont want to play there...
Does phoenix plan to go to wotg or nah? Also will they have the era mana wall? that seems to be missing from a lot of private servers.
>>26996791000 players is the sweet spot. It's not like world of warcraft where you need 5,000+ minimum or "dad server"
>>2699732They mentioned multiple time they will be working on WoTG after they are completely done with zilart and ToAU
>>2699732Yes WOTG after TOAU. All content at 75 cap is the goal
>>2699744Unlike horizon where they were promising adoulin 75 cap before the server even launch and couldn't even get ToAU out in 4 years, and basically only getting there because they are straight up stealing Phoenix dev's hard work.
I'm late to the game. Did Wings have fully working wotg?
>>2699744>>2699748Wotg soon horizonGODS
>>2699780Nope. Just jobs and zones unfortunately
>>2699783And the people who left wings went on to make horizon and now phoenix, correct?
>>2699797Some of them left to make horizon and then some of them left to make Phoenix. Phoenix is entirely run by former horizon admins during its most successful periods
>>2699757>couldn't even get ToAU out in 4 yearsit's worse than that because they never even finished cop over those 4 years.
>>2699809>horizon>most successful periodsWhen? The only thing of note that came out of that server was the first two tiers of HENM. You can't simultaneously blast Horizon for never releasing ToAU and glaze Phoenix devs lol
>>2699816Exactly. Most of the good people left after patch 1.2… when horizon stopped getting content. So yes all the good folks mostly left and are on Phoenix now
>>2699821Not a great look. What's to stop them from all abandoning the project yet again?
>>2699823It’s actually a very good look because they all moved to a project that is fully open source and prizes transparency as opposed to staying on a project that forbids it like horizon
>>2699780Wings did have a lot of working missions. A lot of WoTG just worked. I don't know where the WoTG missions stopped, I completed purple is the new black but i heard they went all the way to cait sith because some of the people on CEXI have it as a summon they brought over from Wings during the merger.
>>2699867Did they have the working HNM? I need something new to X into. Fafnir does not cut it any more.
>>2699883i think they did, or at least i remember a server that did. Might have been FFEra
if you want to play wings in empty lifeless zones to just do missions and get items why not just play retail? i kind of think private server developers actually hate era and low key just want speedrun servers. they hate ballista because it isn't important to their speedrun. they hate besieged because it inconveniences them. they hate campaign because it's worthless to them. chocobo raising is a meme. events are unimportant. look at any single part of the game that's been left out or halfassed and you realize it just doesn't interest unemployed tunnel vision endgamers and then you see the problem with soulless private server devs
>>2700022Lv1 worms can one shot noobs for years but if they can't X in for an HNM they lose it, then they'll say everything works correctly because they only fight a mob that does a TP move every 5 min
>>2700022>empty lifeless zonesthis describes 90% of pre wotg era zones though lol. the only areas that have life have exp, gil or items. there is a tremendous amount of dead space
>>2700195Me when I dont see an empty room that spawns a mob every week (meaningful content)
>>2700207me when i kill the only tiamat my linkshell has claimed this month and it drops an oxblood and nothing else
>>2700218Sorry, Mario. Your boots are in another dragon's poopyhole
Phoenix doesn't have forced spawn Tiamat?No Mog bonanza?I'm out.
>>2700412That isn’t even a thing on retail
>>2700530Might as well be, if we're being honest.
>>2699718Horizon's discord didn't have more than a few thousand until the week of launch, then it exploded. Same will happen with Phoenix. Nobody wants to play until the servers are live.
>>2700714Yep exactly
>>2700714Ew. I'm definitely not doing that shit again. Some of you don't seem to remember how much of a fucking mess that was.
>>2700743Phoenix devs are more competent already so won’t be as bad
>>2700750they are the same devs that fucked wings and horizon up, I'm sure you're in GREAT hands
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>>2700714I hope you're right
I don't wanna play on a server with 2000+ people again anyway so I hope it doesn't get too big
>>2700827Proof?Explain how their involvment was in anyway a result of the failures of those servers, and not just the lead being a retarded fuck, ill be waiting.
>>2701345yeah, it's all fun and games until the masses start hitting end game and you're waiting in lines to do instanced content.
>>2701711even earlier it was kinda suffering to have all camps in the dunes full
>>2701641The breakdown will most likely happen internally once the devs no longer have the common enemy of Aerec, since most of the devs on Phoenix hated each other before they had a project to focus on. Probably will get a good couple of years out of the server for most of us normal folk, not to worry about it though.
>>2701832So no proof just fanfiction got it.
>>2701832Nah we’re all good friends actually and enjoyed working together. Hope to see you on Phoenix m!
Phoenix beta starts today right? I will fuck around for 2 months until the server is launched :).
>>2702117Yes, it does. You can download the launcher and make your characters before it goes up.
>>2702132When the beta will start today?
Can't wait for those Phoenix beta /sea all images!
>>2702117you get access to gm commands apparently so i'll use it to try out some jobs and see what i want to play first.
>>2702173Horizon’s beta only had a few hundred online max, so if it does better than that then Phoenix is gonna explode
>>27021519 PM EST
>>2702248Thanks anon!
>>2702173Sign me up for starting fresh TWICE hell YEAH baby i'm going to play ALL of phoenix in the beta then do it ALL again two months later
>>2702776I mean the beta has GM commands so you cant really do that, its to get as many bugs as possible within the shortest amount of time possible.I too was wanting a double fresh but meh.
>>2702776Just don’t do the beta then retard. Beta tests are super common for any MMO.
>>2702795WOOO HELL YEAH LET'S TEST BABYYY*kills a level 1 rabbit*
>>2702795You can still play it like it's fresh without using GM commands, however. Won't be 1-to-1 obviously, but will be useful if you want to map out some early gameplay routes. Or getting a feel to how different things will be vs. Horizon.
>>2702920Yeah im some will do that, not a bad idea, though i would skip the 1-10 grind personally lol
>>2702920Think people are gonna be in for a shock when mobs actually do damage and players don’t shit huge amounts of damage out of their era+ assholes like they do on horizon
>>2702988lmao yeah okay keep larping buddy. XI servers are notorious for being undertuned and abusable on release only to have the ladder pulled up a few years later
>>2703009Maybe the ones you play on like horizon are yeah
>>2703011No literally everywhere buddy. You must be a xi tourist to not know that.
>>2701858I thought you guys liked fanfiction.
>>2703066only when it includes the women who won't fuck them
>>2703050There’s more than just busted ass Horizon bud. Sorry your server sucks lol
>>2703092>horizon>horizon>horizonAerec really mindbroke you. Seek therapy.
>>2703050Maybe if you got out from under your Horizon rock you would know that Phoenix has been fixing that on LSB for the past yearish
my pserver is better than your pserver!!11
Broken record at this point lads. Is this what Phoenix has to offer?
>>2703373Here is what i have to offer.Now get back to camping fafhog
Not a great look desu.
>Come join phoenix we have a creepy server leader and rapistsyikes
>>2703396>>2703389Desperation is the first admission of defeat.I'm sure your economy relics will be just fine chuds dont worry.
>he thinks his server won't be chock full of relics like horizon is lmao what is this delusion. you are toau locked with none of the content
>>2703431Wont be nearly as bad as Whoreizon bud, they made it easy AF then nerfed it after Aerec and frens got theirs.
>>2703467>my brand new server with negative QoL won't have as many relics on ityou don't say LOL
>>2703496what is exactly negative QOL? just the stackable items change?Is it the world NMs dropping rar/ex so people can actually get their items instead of having thf chud camping VE 24/7?or maybe its the linkshell NPC that horizon doesn't even have? please let me know thanks
>still spamming fan fiction years later
>another Tristt melty
>>2703431This is some of the deepest cope I've ever come across in this thread. You didn't even rub two of your brain cells together before typing up this response did you?
>>2703914>no substantive argument just insultsGo on then, tell us all why Phoenix will not have as many relics as Horizon in 4 years time.
>>2703930Because they will have at max 1k players on the weekends kek
>>2703930account lockouts vs character lockouts
>he doesn't think there will be people playing multiple accountsbrother LOL
>>2703970half of the server won't be playing multiple accounts LOL. And the minority that will, half of them are so retarded they can't properly hide their alt accounts and will eventually get caught /following or trading items to their main LOL
They can't police it and they can't catch the people who do it well lol
No drama, just playing CEXI. Crystal warrior. All my crafts are in the 90s exceptfishingbutihaveashangfuckyouGot me a kraken club from Fe'e that I soloed without trusts on my scholar. Got an oboro harp cooking, I had to physically make a shofar+1 and another one with WW I forgot what it was there's no trading in this game mode. Harp gives my bard lullaby/ballad+2 so I don't even need a ghornHave a 25% haste set built from random sky shit that bard can use, so my melee set is decent.
>>2704187Did your trusts congratulate you for carrying you to that point?
>>2704115Almost like in any online game ever, there will be people cheating that go uncaught. Wow, phenomenal point, anon!
>>2704257Have fun playing by the rules while other people (probably the devs and owner) get to skirt around them lol
>>2704233Crystal warrior is ironman mode, we only get to have two trusts and most of them are nerfed. For just about any content we don't get to use trusts at all.
Look at kipling and ask yourself.Is this fat bastard somebody I can trust?Does he have a track record as someone you can trust?The answer is no.>inappropriate behaviour in Discord>alleged sexual harassment>caught ERPing (ick)>abrasive moderation style>poor communication with players>involved in 'game design' and 'game balance'It's entertaining to watch you lambast Horizon for its failures but then fellate Kipling in the same breath, as if he had nothing to do with why people hated it there.
>The only ammo Horizon devs/shills have against phoenix is to make up allegations with no proof or evidence about a dev.
>>2704287like any video game ever, yep. Astounding point you've made, Aere--I mean Anon
>>2704313Rent free
What if Phoenix is just a keylogger scam to get Horizon players?
No substance, only misdirection and trolling. Kipling is shit, the server is shit.
>>2704681Horizon players are so frightened they’re coming to this thread to spam. LOL
>>2704688Phoenix is literally horizon players lol
WATCH OUT A DEAD SERVER BEHIND YOU!!!
is it nasomi
>>2704695i think its 100% horizon players. CEXI players are having fun on their server, the only people willing to play on Phoenix are the ones sick of Horizon. cue the drama. Watch Phoenix offer 1:1 character transfers for Kipling's friends from Horizon
>>2704783Being this obsessed with another man is quite gay anon
Where's that /sea all post?
>not even 10 players online>literally worst than EventideYCMTU
what are the pros and cons of each nation?
>>2705151Sandy if you want the popular choiceWindy if you want vibes and storyBastok if your racist
>>2705165why is san d'oria more popular?
>>2705151sandy has ok conquest items, probably the cheapest of the 3 on the AH, but also one of the easiest missions. Sandy also has the LW guild which is nice. Bastok's missions are retarded, and bastok has expensive conquest items. Bastok has the worst OP run to the front gate out of all 3 nations and it's worth picking it just for this reason. Windurst has panpipe music, 4 guilds, the best CP > vendor gil item at rank 2, fishing which is immensely profitable, MANY great solo gil/exp farm camps, quest item drop camps, but all the mouth breathing retards want to group in valkurm dunes for no reason so you'd have to go there unless you're smart and know alternate camps which do exist.
>>2705167Arguably the best city layout, good quest rewards and repeatables, easy missions and Ronfaure kino
Windurst isnt that bad, almost everything is in Woods. You need to op warp, run to port windurst and its the guy by the mog house you need a chocobo, its behind the AHthe bonecraft and clothcraft guilds are right therethe cooking guild uses the warp npc by the chocobo stables, if you need to go to the outpost, leave out the waters exit by the cooking guildtheres nothing in walls/HT you need except AF and quests/missions, theres nothing in south waters but missions/questssarutabaruta is a gold mine to farm to 15, you have goblins and mandragoras, and crawlers i guess, horutoto is probably better than dangruf wadi for money buburimu has an easier subjob quest, the hard part drops from rabbits. goblins and maze makers are solid 12-14 in maze of shakhrami, hill lizards in meriph from 12-14, and dhalmels/crawlers/mandies in buburimu from 14-16 with pugs after and 18-20 in sauromugue champaign
I play retailI started playing for the first time last yearI have never touched a private serverI do content with friends I have made while playing instead of arguing over servers
>>2705463how brave of you to sing your truth amongst this cacophony of schizophrenia
How there is level 75 characters in the phoenix beta?
>>2705726You can use GM commands.
>>2705726"Favors" for friends of Kipling.
>>2705463this except I also argue over servers as a false flag
>>2705870Hey Setsuko
>>2706136Hey...
>the next "horizon killer" >hasn't breached 100 online>still worse than Eventide
>>2706315Incoming cope about it being beta, the game isn't out yet, people aren't going to waste their time, ect
>>2706315Same as horizon beta then
>>2706315B-BUT their discord!!!
only horizon players called it a horizon killer
>>2706315It was more than that last night. why lie?
>>2706315Even better when you remember the people shitposting about Eventide are the same ones on Phoenix.
>>2706456Post the /sea all.
you'll call it fake
Got real quiet in here when the hundreds of phoenix bugs started rolling in
horizon closed their bug tracker
>>2706517They don’t want anyone to see how bad it really is
Did all the Kipling simps get banned after spamming for 3 days? Shame Phoenix is still ash.
a phoenix will rise from the ash, but horizon will always be ass
>>2706590Turns out when the numbers contradict their posting they no longer have spines.
>logged on>tried a couple jobs with max gear>did some random things to check for bugs>might not log on beta againIt was a good reminder that era is better than era+ at least.
>>2706627most reasonable post ITT
>>2706627If you loved era you would have quit horizon to play anywhere else. This performative adoration isn't fooling anyone.
yeah man I love era*plays on catseye*
>>2706636>If you loved era you would have quit horizonI did years ago.>to play anywhere elseI played other games instead. Now here I am, ready to do the grind all over again because it's been years since I've last played.
>>2706621asking for numbers for a beta when 99% of people don't want to bug hunt is certainly something.<100 people at any given time wanted to test for Horizon's rebase despite averaging 2.2k+ players every day since launchAnyways, Phoenix has way more bugs than I anticipated. good thing they did this shit 2 months out
>>2706664So no proof got it.
prove you're not gay for futaoh wait, you can't prove it
>>2706658Catseye is a server for people who like retail but think the 75 cap should have stayed in place. Also, Wings refugees, WEW mode has zero trusts.
>>2706621bro?
>>2706690ITS NOT REEL!
>>2706690>not a /sea all screenshotStill no proof.
>>2706695stlil no proof you're not Tupac.
>>2705167The best part about sandoria is fort ghelsba. 8-16 solo fire and dark crystals when nobody else is there. Someone else is always there
>>2706615Phoenix server #6, it'll be different this time guys edition
When is horizon going to rebase a second time? The scheduler changes to LSB look crazy... wtf....
>>2706709Why would they need to? Is this more schizo posting?
>>2706723horizon is still laggy garbage
>>2706695Right now? It's 98.
>>2706709They won’t. That’s why they forked. If you bring it up on their discord their delete the message and mod you
>>2695151I told a GM off on P99 over lefty ass shit (character name from over 13 years ago was now offensive) and lost my account of course.
>>2706798Calm down, PorchMonkeyLvr69
I last played on Nasomi or whatever it's called years ago and stopped playing due to gil sellers, ESLs, and people raging in groups over Dragoons, people not using mods, or otherwise not super meta gaming. Has this changed at all on FFXI private servers?I have plenty of pre-wow mmo experience.
>>2706916>and people raging in groups over Dragoonsuh context?
>>2706932So some people get really angry over alleged non meta play. There were a few times I ran xp groups and peeps would openly get angry over what job got invited to fill in a final spot, not a needed one. Dragoons usually got more than a few people upset. Even in the dead of night.
the purple niggas were too strong...
>>2706916can only speak from horizon pov but, i just made friends with chill people who don't care about meta and play what they want. sometimes we party with 7+ people because we don't care about numbers or efficiency we just wanna hang out.
>>2706916Pservers were impossible to play on before Horizon. Power levelers, dual+ boxers, infinite AH space, shitty balance etc. I remember on one private server literally everyone was getting one shot by Tail Blow in Valkurm, and no one seemed to think it was weird as everyone had a PL. They were all a joke.That said DRG is an awful job, I wouldn't play it without the billion buffs on Horizon.
>>2707349Only retards who don’t know anything about the game think DRG is bad in a world where the 2H buff exists. Sounds more like a skill issue.
>>2707411Dragoon is a perpetually cucked job because it peaks early with Pentathrust and Warrior and Samurai can do that too plus Samurai does it better.
Only 83 people on phoenix now. server's dying bros. Pack it all up.
>>2707418except penta thrust is shit, and spear classes are shit outside of coordinated endgamedragoon gets Sam levels of TP, and opens for closers, that's where it's good. if all you are doing is banging on birds don't bring a Sam, bring rangers.
How bad is it finding leveling groups as a Samurai on an era server like Phoenix? Like half the DD are probably going to be SAM, right?
>>2707820phonics doesn't exist yet so, impossible
>>2707826I figure that it's likely going to be similar to the other era servers but I'm not sure how things went there.
>>2707411oh yes I love DRG, the job that can't deal any damage to any mob with DEF over 10!It's a fucking garbage job that got WORSE after the 2H buff, you sound retarded. More jobs that support got introduced (COR) and this proved to be a significant boon to actual good jobs. DRG got left behind, it's a skill issue if you think it was relevant in anything.
>>2707826It’s literally live on beta right now
>>2707820not bad if you make your own groups, early on nobody cares and everyone accepts that groups are going to be shit dps no matter what so you'll fit right in i dont go out of my way to invite samurai for anything, none of them care about dps/h and all of them sub warriors like absolute shitters do. later on when you're like "ahmagad I'm gonna get a soboro suckyhero and a war bow+1 and sub ranger and be a shitter supreme" remember that i told you no, bad. they suck.
>>2707934I'm not useful for finding bugs or open source coding so I will wait for launch
>>2707497Still no /sea all screenshot another DOA server.
>>2707996Do you have any recommendations for era then? I'm open to trying anything since the Phoenix beta let's me do a trial of the class.
>>2708042play a SAM if you like it. Play a DRG if you like it. Play a THF if you like it.
>>2708042become a PUP autist since for the first time it might actually work on a private server
>>2708352Pup works fine on CEXI, it's overpowered as intended.
>>2708386sure but that's a memeserver
>>2708062NO NO NO! YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO LIKE THINGS I DONT LIKE!
>>2708062enjoying videogames is for gays and females, straight manly men like us provide for our all male no homo friend group by playing profusely sweaty meta jobs and screaming slurs at each other over parses
>>2708442a memeserver with over 1k online during peak hours.
>>2708530excuse you non-META adherents. MHM*Adjusts britches*If you want to get 20k exp an hour, you need to follow the established party guidelines. three rangers, no samurai, no dragoons, no warrior faggots, 3 rangers. 1 corsair. one red mageand a bard, and that bard better know how to pull. I aint got time to teach no bard what a pebble does. Stick it in your flute and spit it at the bird.
>back from offshore>phoenix beta right on time>launcher good as fuck>opening / playing the game is super smooth and functional>it just werks tm>unironically having fun trying to make bugs appear testing out bcnms hunting nms making exp parties etc>log into horizon to see if activity has picked up>seeking for the entire duration that I'm playing on Phoenix Beta and not one /tell for exp party>>2708442Idk where this has come from because theres literally more to do on CEXI than anywhere else, it's the best server of the three atm no doubtSoon brothers, phoenix genuinely looks like it could be our new home t. FFXI Bong(15 captchas required just to throw my shit opinion into this hellhole)
>>2708959>making exp parties etcwhere are the exp parties? everyone is just !immortaling through everything farming bugcoins. nobody's playing on the server, just testing shit
>>2709437>Beta testing on a beta server>Testing their server prior to launch>Bug testingLol dont these chudlets know thats completely not-needed, just launch already chudlets
>>2709523Yeah we saw how good that went for horizon right loooool
>>2709437I got a random /tell and we went to Sauro for a bit then we changed jobs and levels up and went to Dunes
What's the point of having testers when they just make the retarded player base find all the bugs anyway.
whats the point of making a post revealing you're a fucking retard
>>2709944This is the most horizon brained post I’ve ever seen
>'phoenix is NOT era+'>using out of era cosmetics as a carrot to get people to beta test their game
does he know?
no, he clearly doesn't know
>vaguepost to throw them off, quickly
>>2709980>out of era He doesn’t know ball
>>2710003They're going to come back with old reliable 'Horizon did it' as justification for them doing it. That, or some kind of smoke and mirrors.>>2710008When was celeste cap introduced?
Hellooo~? Celeste cap? When was it introduced to FFXI? Oh that's right. 2014. Now it's the top carrot to get people to beta test their game, haha. An actual FOMO item because it will be unobtainable if you do not get one now.
It seems they are not aware...https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Stars_Cap
They’re such a ball not knower they didn’t even know about stars cap LMAO
>>2710071Different item. Are you giving them the ability to port to ru'lude?>smoke and mirrors confirmed
>i-it's a DIFFERENT ITEM! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2710093Why are you asking like this person is Phoenix staffOh wait
>>2709954Why are you so mad, bro? Did your wittle PHX beta not take off as hard as you wanted?
>We're not giving you a celeste cap we're actually giving you a stars cap which is a celeste cap but you won't actually have the benefit of a stars cap we're just using that to bypass the era requirement even though our rewards page says celeste cap>Let's also wash over the fact that it's from ballista royale that will never happen again and only 20 people on retail actually had a stars cap and no one on phoenix will ever be able to earn onePhoenix is looking more and more like Horizon every day
phoenix's horizon meter [|.......................................................................................]horizon's horizon meter[+INFINITE]
Hey guys did you know? Octave club and Kraken club? Same thing.
Trade me your oclub anon xd
Maybe the horizon fags would feel better if the hat secretly gave treasure hunter -1. Good luck with that shit in TOAU LMFAO
>>2710123Because they post here lol. Everything they do that's not era or questionable has an excuse. Any valid criticism is met with 'but Horizon, but Aerec'. Really grim tidings for Phoenix+.
>valid
OH MY SCIENCE! IT'S A FUCKING LOCKSTYLE! GET EM BOYS!!!!
>>27103611 bug point has been awarded to your total. Keep it up for your celeste cap, friend!
when is horizon getting the celeste cap? I dont wanna be jealous bros...
Niggas can't even admit they're abusing fomo to get people to beta test their shit. That's how you know it's bad.
Not a good look for your server if that's your reply, brother.
my server? I play on Nasomi bro
>>2710356How embarrassing.
ITT: people who just stir the pot like Dendra are posting and only exist for drama
>random name listed>Kipling posters trying to deflect
>make an era server>add non era stuff and fomo>turn into rabid dogs when people point it outGRIM.
Random?
let's be real no one is getting fomo over some faggot little gay hat
>>2710698you can watch their good boy leaderboard in real time kek. it works and some of them are treating this like a full time job lol
this guy are sick fighting trolls, lamia, mamool every day for boat pass kek
epic ff7 reference
More deflection by you know who!
voldemort?
Lord Aerec must have given the order for all the drones to defend Horizon. Look at all these era minus posts. Shouldn’t you guys be testing TOAU? Don’t wanna have another 12/24/24 on your hands!
>divert to horizon tactic right on cue
Kipling deflection post spotted.
Aerec drones posting in rapid succession. Use the diversion tactics!
>>2702173Still waiting!
>>2710755desu that's great, the carrot on a stick is a good incentive that only makes the server better for all of us too lazy to help find bugs. (idk what's even out of era anyway so clean it up, testies)
next we should start charging a subscription fee so we can pay real people to code our game and not have to rely on claude
This entire me vs them happening in the thread is fucking stale and gay.
>>2707996Wait is everyone subbing NIN still a thing on private servers because if you don't you'll become a pariah?
no thanks, im subbing samurai with the real third eye formula
>>27109723 bug points have been awarded. You have earned a fafnir statue.
You guys a worse than the Everquest crowd. You don't even post pictures because all of you are schizo enough to make anyone's life a living hell if they're stupid enough to dox themselves even with an ingame avatar. You might even be worse than Eve players because they use lawyers.
>open leaderboard>top 10 is already full of jobless autists>the other stuff I can get by playing the gameHow does this encourage participation?
>>2710993What pictures would you like to see? There's nothing new. Would you like an image of unstacked ores?
>>2710973Horizon nerfed the shit out of ninja sub and it STILL was required once the initial "fuck it, take whatever is available and let's get to 75 quick" rush died off.
>>2710996*makes out with u*
Horizon chuds are so mad they’re spamming this thread instead of playing their server loool
>>2710996how do you see the leaderboard?
There it is again. It's so predictable it's like living the truman show.>valid criticism>incoherent psychobabble>blame horizonThis can not be a good look for Phoenix no matter how you look at it.
>>2711056Phoenix chuds are so mad they're spamming this thread about Horizon chuds being so mad they're spamming this thread instead of playing their server loool
>>2711084Uh oh horizon melty!
we're out of content and we will be out of content 2 weeks after toau launch, I have nothing else to do...
Why should I care that some jobless autist with infinite time is looking for bugs on a server beta?
We call this a strawman
Nooo you can't leave horixon, I have to finish my next relic and X in for my third dalmatica!
Xing in
Dis homie needs a fucking bobby (aka he needs to get laid)
>>2709437I threw out all the free stuff and set my bag to 30. Trying to see how the early game feels.So far it's nice to see mobs being harder and all the starter quest stuff being impactful.
What's the most in demand DD in era so i can be lazy and not make my own groups? Or should I take the BST pill?
>>2711660>no gearprobably dragoon, easiest class to get to "good enough" and you can basically wear vendor stuff, CP items, and AF to 75>craft/make moneyNinja or RangerTanks aren't always in demand, probably wont get any TOAU bird groups, ninja isnt much of a DD until around 60 if you have good gear. DRK/nin is an option if you're geared. >I'm gonna need to make my own party-tierThiefWarrior DDSamuraiMonk
>>2711694Ninja and Ranger seem difficult as first jobs because of the money required. I never considered Dragoon because of the stigma around it without the Horizon buffs but I'll look into it more because it seems like it'd have decent soloing potential to make money at 75 too, thank you. On Horizon I made the mistake of leveling a support class first and I was basically stuck being support all the time so I'd like to avoid that again.
>>2711729DRG in ToAU has some better gear options while leveling and drakesbane is pretty strongif you plan to do endgame though you'll be an angon bot
>>2711739It's fine for ENMs and other low man content, yeah? A job that can gear up other jobs would be nice, which is why I was considering BST somewhat.
>>2711729NGL both of them are cheap if you craft. Ninja tools are retarded in the AH, it costs about 12k gil to make 4 stacks of blind tools from the vendor if you NQ all of them. AH price is like 10k a stack. Shihei is free if you fish and log. It takes about an hour to get a stack of elm logs from ghelsba outpost and you turn those and moko grass into bast patchment, then you turn nebs or calamary into black ink, and you can make enough shihei to last you until you're like level 60 lolor just make friends and have them hook you up. you go get the mats have him craft em all up.
>>2711815Yeah once you get your AF helm it's a really good soloer, especially as /BLUbut for lower level I'd say BST or even THF is better
>>2711860I wasn't planning on leveling up fishing but I'll consider it., thanks. Ninja would be pretty cool since I do like tanking in XI.>>2711886I remember seeing the DRG/RDMs soloing well on Horizon. I actually forgot DRG/BLU was even an option, which sounds even better. THF in general is something I think I want to avoid because of how popular of a first job choice it seems to be.
>>2711916it's popular for a reason, you'll want to get it out of the way. Thieves have a very hard time getting groups once better options become available. THF/ninja is a very good solo job as long as your server doesn't nerf the shit out of bloody bolts for no reason.
>>2710993i think im the only one who posts oc and nobody ever appreciates it
>>2712037show me your oc sis i promise i will be supportive
>>2710763i will never get sick of gurfurlur's ass
>>2712037Whether or not someone appreciates it (besides yourself), at leasts it exists but I'm not a regular here, I just saw this thread in the Catalogue where I hang in another thread. It sucks because FF11 is filled with great armor designs for all the races, rather than looking like stretched out humans in FF14. Heck, I'm playing FF9 right now and being reminded of designs before belt buckles.
testing out phoenix made me realize how much horizon broke stats on monsters, dunes is going to be a bloodbath with no subjobs
>>2712117you promise
>>2712117
>>2712344Yeah monsters can actually kill you again
>>2712344wait until the great gusgen death march if mobs aren't resetting when people zone.
>>2712365What am i looking at
>>2712344dunes is a noob trap on fresh. funny watching them get anally obliterated by IT++ lizards after running for 30 minutes though
>>2712344>not soloing to 15>giving up all that extra money so you can join a crappy group with a bunch of shitters and get 2,000 exp/h killing lizards
>>2712438have fun soloing to 15 with ToAU EXP rates. Mowing down EPs for 10 EXP each ain't too worth.
>>2712483killing ep mandies for cornettes and ep goblins for onions and fire crystals, killing ep crawlers for calculi and silk thread. it only sucks if you're a black mage.
>he's going to go to dunes without food wearing level 1 rse and a level 4 swordGuy wants to waste his time.
>>2712631why wont anyone invite my thief i got the best nq brass dagger money can buy
>>2712438Have fun with that
>>2713018the biggest bst nerf
>>2712117the fat ass of the hume female needs to be studied
>>2712037I think the FFXI tools to create mods are too old and clunky for people to bother using to make any oc.
>>2712117do you like it pls respond
>>2713647Based
>>2713647our FVARKING hero... reporting bugs that will get fixed for all servers...
>>2713018Unironically a massive buff but not in way that most people would think.
>>2713647Bugaru Reportaru
god this entire thread is just kipling samefagging himself isn't it
>>2714123.t Aerec
Actually it's all Gwei
>>2714123Please come beta test and catch all the bugs our useless testers didn't catch, I'm begging you. I'll give you this cool hat.
>>2714177Just adopt the horizon/bethesda Strat instead and push it to live and make players test
>>2714123actually it's all spicyryan
>>2712631Galka chad here with the scale mail + lvl1 subligar combo. I will solo the IT++ Lizard. You just heal me.
>>2714123Easy to see it's him when you realize half the drama schizo posting includes information most people don't know. Really makes you think.
>>2714331>most people don't knowhaha... more like only you don't know...
>>2714123>>2714177>>2714202>>2714331Samefag
>>2714348It's not that hard to see our IPs anon and verify we're all individual people.
>>2714331Just wait until he has access to information most people wouldn't unless they were server owners :) But-but he definitely wouldn't break his own CoC would he?
>>2714376>make a Phoenix account>burner email>rng password>different char name than on Horizon/CE/retailIt's the only way to be sure.
>>2714373Prove it then
>he doesn't solo beastmen exclusively and wear the armor they drop like a wandering schizo hobongmi
>>2714410Here you go buddy.
>>2714376>open source project >secret information
>>2714445He's asking you to dox yourself. Ignore the low effort bait.
>>2713018You just get to kill more, that's all. 75% exp ring still makes those levels go pretty fast
>>2714447Lol, why scared of being banned on the server you arent going to play?
>>2714470>why wont you dox yourself on 4chanSure Kipling.
>>2714470Cause they’re all liars who play and post here anonymously like the cowards they are
>>2714445Nice editing lil gup
>>2714507Newfag.
>>2714348all me btw. I am everyone in this thread
>>2714523what the fuck?
>>27145234 in a row, do i win a prize?
This was productive when peeps were comparing pros and cons even from other servers. Now it's just name calling and baiting.I liked when anons were talking about xp issues on Phoenix and mentioning Horizon had a 4 year stagnation. True or not that's stuff I can take into consideration, not sitting there making stupid tribalism accusations.
>>2714529I see you are me too
>>2714531What the fuck is this unc on about?
>>2714531i still think the bst implications of the toau exp rates on phoenix are funny. bsts will have to charm again instead of using jug pets to mow through easy preys. the people leveling as xx/bst will probably have better success grouping now too. the wings xp rates were such a huge buff to soloers.
>>2714544You tardposting, try to keep up downie
>>2714608Is there a reason or reasons why I never saw BSTs in groups? I know they're very solo friendly but no one ever told me the details. I saw similar classes still group all the time in Everquest, City Of Heroes, and so on.
>>2714702Legend has it that using pets in party gimps everyone else's exp.
>>2714702BSTburns(5 BSTs+1 healer) are really good so if BSTs are going to group up they usually group with other BSTs. If you don't level BST yourself or level a healer that gets invited to one, you wouldn't know they exist.
>>2714702No they were everywhere on Horizon, even regular parties. Maybe people stopped now since everyone has PCC/LB/godgear/food/etc. so the pet gap is easily overcome in a party.
>>2714702because you haven't been looking hard enough. BSTs have been grouping together with other BSTs and summoners since 2003, and I've grouped with plenty of them on retail.
>>2714719only if you charm a pet higher level than your group is. In reality, BSTs even with jug pets are just really crappy DPS, and BSTs who group with other players aren't getting seals.
>>2714702Real OGs know that BST isn't about getting to 75 efficiently. It's all about the mountain of seals you make along the way. Which you're going to need, because peacock amulet is going to take an average of 10 runs. BST at 75 has maybe a handful of things they can do that other jobs cannot.
>>2714861>Average of 10 runs
>>2714861>BST at 75 has maybe a handful of things they can do that other jobs cannot.To be fair, if you remove RDM from the equation then it can do a lot of stuff that other jobs can't. Except that RDM can do a lot stuff that BST can't too so lol.
>>2714907Like what?
I always got my peacock amulet in like 2-3 runs. You guys need more? Sucks to suck, lol.
take a moment to congratulate phoenix for passing 1,000 bugs reported everybody
>>2714975Congrats Phoenix for having a community that wants to test things so much
>>2715078Guess that’s what happens when your project is open source and transparent
>>2714348oop
at least you know that phoenix and lsb will actually fix your bugs instead of lock the thread
Today on Cope Fantasy. Why Phoenix having a million bugs is actually a good thing.
horizon has a billion unreported bugs and thats better
>>2715145today on Horizon Fantasy. Why horizon not having ToAU for 4 years, and is constantly rug pulling and ladder pulling newer players, and after the rebase has been "tested" completely broke the server for weeks is actually a good thing.
>straight to horizon copeclockwork
Zenith will be better than all your shitty servers
>>2715180>Trust slop serverUh.... no.
>coperizon
>>2715161does any server even have a fully functioning and accurate toau?? that expansion was released over 20 years ago why the fuck are FFXI devs so incompetent?
>>2715194>does any server even have a fully functioning and accurate toaunot yet
>>2715194>why the fuck are FFXI devs so incompetent?Never ask Damarus why gardening can't be fixed
>>2715194What do you think phoenix devs have been doing? lol Phoenix will be the closest, or rather LSB will be after they are done with it.Playable server? Eden is your best bet.
>>2715194As far as I know not even Eden has everything working perfectly
>>2715210Eden is missing besieged, 3 tiers of assaults, the mythic weapon quest line and PW from toau. Good place if you're an unc who likes to twobox. Really bad place if you're a zoomie.
>>2715246Eden also allowed character imports from a easy mode server, so there is a lot of reasons people wouldn’t want to play on it
I heard Aerec larps as a dev and all he cares about is milking the sandnigger gilbuyers for all their worth
>>2715270Not true he doesn’t even pretend to dev he just wants to be “in charge”
>>2715263based as fuck actually. only mega autists want to start over from scratch every 4 years and pretend to enjoy the rat race.I wish more servers did that instead of being whiny cunts.
>>2715161I still maintain the worst part is that they never finished CoP. Why are they releasing ToAU before AV? Did their custom changes to 2 hours fuck something up?
>>2715360my guess is they wanted to make le epic era+ unbeatable encounter and try to 1-up SE at their own game (like with most of their other changes) but couldn't figure out how to do it without making it complete cancer
>hey boss yeah sorry i can't come in on monday>this new ffxi server is coming out and i want to start fresh there>no i cant just transfer my character with 30,000 hours over to it they don't allow that besides i like having to reinvest thousands of hours of time every time some fag comes up with a new server>hello...?? boss???
>>2715307>I only enjoy endgame where i can camp HNMs by sitting in 1 place staring at nothing for 4 hours until it randomly pops and my alliance doesnt get the claim
>>2715429No one is asking you to transfer from your shit server dude, you dont have to play phoenix if you dont want to, you know that right? lol
>>2715433I know you're retarded but please try to learn some reading comprehension.
>>2715435It's probably that dull nig that posts on their discord all the time. It's like talking to an actual Somali.
>>2715429>>2715307>>2715435>>2715441Cope and seethe.
>>2715445
>>2715450>Literally self-reportingYeah you probably should get a job
>The ''journey''>its grinding crabs with unemployed third worldies and the same shit stories you have seen 5 times beforeI think I'll pass
is this the new horizoncultist cope?
imagine enjoying a video game
Sorry Phoenix astrotufers I just.. I'm just not playing on your server hahahaha. definitely not with your negative QoL. You want this game to take longer? You want japanese everquest to take longer? You want us to start over from level 1? LOL.
>>2715450>>2715459>>2715429>Wagies seethingIts almost that time anon, can you feel it?
horizon sucking more streamer dick with "stream team" infinite cringe
>>2715381just make it LITERALLY impossible(but pretend that it isn't)
>>2693406Shut the fuck up retarded retail cuck
>>2694411>>2694314>>2694255holy fucking ffxiv/gacha garbage someone make shitric immortal so the cancer never leaves shitizon
>>2715494>wants to do toau content in a dead end BIS server >wants era+ handouts>wants treasure without playing the gameMaybe the stream team can do the next rebase LOL
>>2715494*unstacks all your HELMslop and rapes you[r muh econom]*LOL
>more coping
