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>recent updates have just been +1 -1 type balancing to random things
Literally just fake work to pad out the patch notes
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>>2569263
Don't forget
>Increased the amount of thread required to weave a fabric roll from 100 to 400
Where would they even get the data think this was necessary? I don't think I've crafted fabric roll even once but if I did I'm sure it was already tedious at 100 thread
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>>2569325
You could make fabric rolls, turn them into clothes, turn them into thread, and then turn them back into fabric endlessly.
But instead of just doing the sensible thing and making it a 'bit' harder to make fabric rolls they QUADRUPLED the cost.
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I said it before and I'll say it again
>balancing an unfinished game
>fixing minor, non-critical bugs in an unfinished game
>piling up minor mechanics that don't interact with anything else
You guys remember the health system? What about cooking? Electrical systems?
Really gotta pretend to be busy.
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Why'd you guys make a new thread so early?
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I can't believe I'm saying this but I wish TIS would hurry making NPCs so I can see the absolute fucking disaster they're going to be.
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>>2570026
I remember that the crafting was supposed to come with a quality system tied to it so items created at higher skill level would have a chance to have better stats
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>>2569263
zomboid sex mod when
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>>2573230
5 years ago
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>>2570434
they've already spent years laying rhetorical groundwork in preparation for them being an utter disappointment on first release

the first pass on them will likely just be dumb animal-level set pieces like aimbot soldiers at checkpoints to make you stay away, faked/abstracted survivors spawned on the spot to die or chat basic lines and run off rather than them really doing anything in the world

>>2573230
there was one on loverslab
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>Be Project Zomboid player
>Game is fun enough, but I want mods
>Shitloads of 1993 themed mods, addons, map expansions, etc
>Installs shitload of anime clothing options, trans flags, and loot-table bloaters
>Character looks like some mixture of hatsune miku, a UK slag and 200 gallons of silicone and latex
Why does this happen every fucking time?
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b42 stable when?
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>>2575166
2 more weeks
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>>2575166
Sorry, the protons on Lemmy's laptop started decaying, it'll have to be delayed.
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b42 rrrrrrriiiiiiiggghhhhht...........NOW
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any NPC updates lmao?
also are there any good porn mods
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>>2569347
Ah yes, the CDDA approach. It's not about balance or realism, it's about making the game worse.
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Reminder lemmy actively makes development choices out of spite.
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i hate tis so much its unreal
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>>2569347
>You could make fabric rolls, turn them into clothes, turn them into thread, and then turn them back into fabric endlessly.
i don't see a problem with this because the consequence is a SHIT load of wasted time to do it, which this game is already rife with endless timed actions
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>powerleveling metalworking in an area i cleared weeks ago (respawns turned off)
>lone zombioid wanders through the fog and scratches me on the forearm
>infected
epic
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>>2580522
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>>2581265
uh fuck off, AI jeet?
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>>2580522
>Playing with instakills on, in a game without save/load
You only have yourself to blame for that one.
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Someone 'drew their character'
I am lost for words
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is B42 MP stable enough to go at it with a group of friends?
My friends are getting the zombie game itch and I wanna know if I should be looking at b41 mods or b42
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>>2582464
>is B42 MP stable enough to go at it with a group of friends?
No, because they're going to release an update by the time you and your buddies are starting to have fun, which will brick the save.
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>>2582466
Gotta keep the friendsloppers from finishing a game otherwise they'll move on and stop shilling the game for free
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SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING CHUDS I DON'T HAVE AGP
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>>2582458
>starts the game with an axe wound
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>>2583420
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stable today bros
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I crash constantly on b42 with no mods, what the fuck is going on
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>>2573849
Who is going to spend potentially hours modding something into a game? A dumb chud who spends most of his time bitching online and not playing games or the autistic trans-anime loser who spends all day playing a game like this?
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>>2584116
People used to make very sensible and lore friendly mods in the past ya know. You should use the wayback machine to look up how modding worked pre 2010.
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>>2584128
Why would you lie? I remember mods from 2004, they just had more big titty gooner mods
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>>2584128
The first mod Skyrim ever got was a nude mod
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>>2569263
Why is every OP coomerslop? sell me with webm of gameplay
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>>2585512
>sell me with webm of gameplay
This is /vg/ but for dead games. This thread isn't meant to be an advertisement
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>>2585493
Because textures and models are the easiest thing to mod
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>Eat a raw egg
>Fucking die
Do Americans really?
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>>2587279
Yes, well, apparently small quantities of rain water is lethal poison too.
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but why don't the beds have blankets?
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>Eats raw bacon
>Fucking die
It's CURED meat, how the fuck do you die from sterile healthy meat?
What the fuck are Americans putting in their bacon???
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>>2587912
tbf that's only for actually cured meat and not saltwater injectioned slop.
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>>2589033
You can eat as much raw bacon in Australia as you want and you'll never get sick.
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>>2587279
>>2587661
>>2587912
Someone in TIS thinks food poisoning, botulism and dysentery are the same thing.
If food poisoning was that deadly, I'd be dead 10 years ago.
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>>2569263
This isn't even the game
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are there any good collections or do i have to create my own that lemmy will personally ruin the instant i'm happy with it?
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>>2595666
>are there any good collections
No because lemmy ruins them the instant the community is happy with them
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>>2595666
I see most people using Sophie's
its however clearly made by a troon, so ya know
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>>2595680
trannies might be freaks but they spend a lot of time on fictional shit
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why'd the knox event expanded guy give up
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>>2596458
The faggot said it himself: he had unrealistic expectations of what being a big modder was like and didn't think there would be any complaints or screeching retards. Rather than simply tune the retards out he threw his own melty in response.
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>>2596525
i see, what a bummer but i don't really blame him for wanting to move on. i haven't played in some time and was curious about the state of mods and npcs. i found this but i dunno if it's decent, i'm still dling the game now
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3695670830
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>>2596525
Forbidding anyone else to continue it or redistribute it, especially since he's not working on it anymore, is turbofaggotry.
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>>2596730
Makes me think there was also some inability and insecurity motivating his decision. He was struggling to develop it, got frustrated, and the screeching comments flipped him over the edge. But he still fears the idea that someone could take his mod and develop it better since that would only wound his ego even more.
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>>2596458
Person who's sole responsibility to update their mod as the game updates, chose to not do that singular responsibility, not even at his own pace.
>REEE WE WENT MOD UPDATED NOW!
>It'll be updated when it's updated
Wow, was that so fucking hard?
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>>2589156
>Someone in TIS thinks
doubt it
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>no ability to put random things up your ass
"realism"
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>>2597446
he probably just got bored with it and such a large modding project for something like zomboid seems hopeless anyway
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>>2598798
Explain the free passive inventory space then
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>It's another day where retards don't know that 'everyone's infected' still means zombie scratches/bites/etc will infect and kill you
Documentation for this game being so dogshit, really pisses me off because it results in a fragmented retarded community where nobody actually knows how the fucking game works.
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what if it was called project negroid and the zombies were instead black crackheads
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what if there was anything to do in the game like, and this will sound crazy but hear me out, like a fancy lab you could raid that had mutant zombies and sick loot
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>>2602221
Isn't it just TWD setting where you turn no matter how you die? Why would this change how direct zombification work?
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>>2602583
>Isn't it just TWD setting where you turn no matter how you die?
Yes
>Why would this change how direct zombification work?
It doesn't.
But retards think it does, leading to endless confusion because none of the sandbox options actually tell you what the fuck they are doing.
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>what if there was anything to do in the game
thats a really radical idea, give the devs +/- 20 years to think it through
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>>2602357
truly horrifying...
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Imagine if locations on the map had pre-placed unique loot of high value, resulting in players being rewarded for exploring and creating memorable items the community can talk about for years?
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>>2602802
even pre-placed common loot is already asking for too much, chud. Buy our spiffo merch.
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>>2602221
>everyone is infected
>actually erm you are not until you get infected
idk sounds retarded to me
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>>2606104
stop trying to make sense of the infection's spread
stop asking why they shot the dogs
the lore is 2deep4u and very realistic you just don't geddit... it's totally explained in the games but no one pieced the puzzles together because the writers are just so smart...
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>>2606104
Everyone's Infected runs off of Walking Dead rules.
1: Dying from anything = zombie
2: Zombie bites/scratches = zombie as well
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>>2602793
pz """pvp""" is such a meme
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>>2606298
That's not very realistic
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>>2608257
Amusingly it's more accurate to the Romero films than vanilla settings.
Romero zombies are made when anyone dies from any cause, except head trauma.
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i dont think i have ever seen a game driven into the ground like this in real time. each update just makes it worse. no hotfixes for bugs; no you just have to wait three-four weeks and hope they fix it only for them to introduce different bugs.
its such a joke.
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>>2609714
Recently while I was emulating Airforce Delta Strike I had some streamer playing Zomboid in another window and I was genuinely flabbergasted when they said something along the lines of "wow this game has improved so much in the last decade I'm so impressed with these devs".
Their gameplay looked the exact same as what you'd see many years ago. The only standout difference was that zombies were ragdolling when ran over, some animals were running in circles, and the fire looked a bit different.

Maybe they were afraid of saying something negative and inciting backlash from zomboid's trans fanbase? I genuinely don't know why else people would dickride these devs so hard.
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>>2609753
you have to play the game for a while to really notice how shallow it is and get intimately familiar with the bugs and everything.
like the slow stand-up with a weapon bug, almost no one who isnt meta gaming is going to notice that, most people wont think to sit while zombies are aggroed unless they understand how fatigue/muscle strain works.
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>>2609753
Streamers are just biased to either shill for the games they play in order to keep people interested and watching, or make their entire personality just shitting on it and getting angry for the viewer's "entertainment". There are exceptions but these people are generally pretty soulless.
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>>2609812
i like watching retanaru since he is an advanced player who clearly enjoys the game but recognizes what poor stewards TIS are. even he cannot deny they are slowly killing the game with their bullshit.
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>>2609771
>sit while zombies are aggroed unless they understand how fatigue/muscle strain works.
I know about stopping behind an obstacle to 'lock' the pathfinding of aggro'd zombies so you can lose them, but what's this about sitting with aggroed zombies and how does it tie to fatigue/muscle strain? Obviously sitting is better for recovery but doing that while aggroed is for...?
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>>2609714
the last six months have just been updates that introduce new bugs, and another update that tries to fix it, but doesn't.
if it wasn't for mods and mp propping it up this shit would be the gutter.
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>>2569263
slut
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>>2602583
>>2602585
>>2606298
I thought the players were immune to the airborne and thus not infected(until they get the bodily fluids version)?
Are we just symptom immune carriers?
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>>2613250
On vanilla settings, the player is immune to the airborne version, and thus if they jump off an office building they won't turn into a zombie.
But in 'everyone's infected', the player is a carrier of the airborne infection, so while they won't turn into a zombie while alive, they will turn when jumping to their death.
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Reading a book fully should give you 1 level along with an XP boost for the next level.
5 books, getting you to level 5 (not even that fucking high, because most shit requires 7+), assuming you find all of them in a collection.
I hate Lemmy so much.
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>>2614855
He could just copy how DDA does it but that would make the game too enjoyable.
You know it's bleak when even DDA is more player friendly.
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>>2614860
How does DDA work?
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>>2614890
Skill levels are split into "practical" and "theoretical". Reading only gives theoretical levels, which unlocks recipes and increase practical exp gain up to that level.

In other words, as long as you read a carpentry book you don't need to build 500 barrels to build a wall. 2x or not, it eliminates the unfun unrealistic grind.
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>>2614926
Wow, that sounds so much better than Zomboid's shitty fucking level system.
Lemmy, take notes you retarded hack.
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>>2614855
Threadly reminder that pic related is the best a professional Carpenter can do in PZ.
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Zomboid devs have banned one of the biggest zomboid modders from the workshop. Which has bricked a shitload of people's games.
They are refusing to say WHY he was banned, apparently due to 'mod theft'.
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>>2626159
Is zomboid finally getting its own tranny mafia that shuts down competition and wrongthinkers in the community?
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>>2626272
It's been the case for years already.
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>>2626159
who?
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>>2626342
Faded_OneTTV, who made a shitload of mods including Common Sense Reborn
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>>2626346
Ah, just classic.
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>Enigmagrey is fired for being a power hungry mega-faggot
>They replace him with a literal transgender loon
>Every single time they do PR with the community it's incredibly vague statements that ultimately don't mean anything
>"Yes, something happened somewhere by somebody, that is all I can say"
What the fuck is that supposed to mean???
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>>2626346
I-is that... QOL?! AIEEEE! BAN IT BAN IT!!!
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>>2626378
TIS has made the official policy that mod-makers 'own' their mods (as if you can somehow 'own' IP infringement lmao), so if you make any mod which even uses a single line of another mod, you can get banned.
And yes, this includes mods that just re-use vanilla code like mods that allow you to repair/upgrade vanilla items that are not repairable. There's only one way to add that functionality so whoever did it first, can DMCA all other mods which do it.
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>>2626372
They do the same thing when addressing the community's concerns over sudden bans of popular modders.
>"Please do not listen to evil speculation and fearmongering! Btw we won't tell you why we did it ;)"
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>>2626386
Their tranny jannies already mistakenly confirmed it wasn't DMCA, nor malware, so it's pretty obvious it was due to petty drama.
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>>2626396
>The liars have lied, why not believe them?
Because they're liars. That's the issue when you lie too often, nobody believes you even if you are telling the truth, your truth becomes lies.
>>2626388
>WE PROMISE THAT IT IS NOT DUE TO THE REASONS SPECULATED
>BUT NO WE WILL NOT EXPLAIN WHY
>YES WE ARE AWARE THIS MAKES IT LOOK LIKE THE SPECULATION IS CORRECT
>S-SHUT THE FUCK UP CHUDS!
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>>2626159
>apparently due to 'mod theft'
Seems there's more to it than just that.
Apparently the Brita dev made a DMCA claim on one of his mod but you don't get booted from the Workshop just for a DMCA.
Faded_OneTTV was scrapping the workshop to basically steal mods, a lot of his mods were just copies of other mods.
In general it seems the PZ workshop have a huge problem with mod theft, when a mod become popular there's often dozens of copies being shat out, just look at Common Sense, there's a whole page of copies.
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>>2626927
>but you don't get booted from the Workshop just for a DMCA
Except you absolutely do
t. Person who was booted from Workshop for DMCA
That's the problem with retarded commie developers, they lie too often.
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>>2614855
5 books is also ridiculous considering the players expertise is diy at best. 3 books. levels 1-4 5-8 9-10.
Only medical could warrant 5 books and that should be surgery level, stop infection tier shit.
>>2626159
Modders are so picky. Mods should all automatically be public domain minus selling. Very few mods are actually be worth copyright. Like total overhaul basically a new game/sequel.

God Save Birmingham has ea sign ups open
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Why is this game so goddamned buggy? I can't even cook a fucking frozen pizza
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>>2628983
Criticizing the game are we? Please post your steamID so we can ban you and prevent you from releasing a mod that fixes the bug.
-Zomboid PR team
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>>2569263
still waiting on bikes. imagine making a zombie survival game and not adding bikes, a silent way to outrun zombies, to it. like imagine not even thinking about that idea at all during your entire development period
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>>2629709
Bikes did not exist in 1993. Rollerskates did not exist in 1993. Skateboards did not exist in 1993. The concept of standing on top of a car did not exist in 1993.
Because if they did they would make the game too easy and we can't have that in our realistic survival sim.
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>>2629452
B41 is nowhere near this buggy. How the fuck have they managed to introduce brand new bugs that never existed before?
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>>2629709
The average joe in the 90s didn't know how to ride a bike.
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>>2628348
>Mods should all automatically be public domain minus selling
Mods all technically belong to the developer/IP owner. You're modifying their IP, which is comically illegal unless there's some very specific legal-ese going on in the contract (no developer really does this, because it'd be tantamount to throwing away ownership of the IP)
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>>2614926
theoretical only unlocks recipes and raises your skill ceiling for crafts.
You still need to craft or practice to level your practical skill, which lets you make crafts with less chance of error.
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>>2628348
>5 books is also ridiculous considering the players expertise is diy at best. 3 books. levels 1-4 5-8 9-10.
I don't really care too much about there being 5 books for every skill, it gives incentive to search more parts of the map for them.
But skills are so fucking weighted towards the ass-end of the skill, that it feels like a slog to get 'anywhere' with skills.
>I want to make a baseball bat!
>Sorry goy that'll be 9 carving
>But...It's a fucking club, cavemen figured this shit out with sharp stones and tree branches
>Nuh uh, to make a zombie smasher requires almost PERFECTED carving skill
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>>2631862
Yeah, that's basically what I said, I just didn't see the need to mention details like the error chance.
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>Content additions and actually useful changes are now so sparse that Retanaru has all but given up talking about the actual game
>He just talks about mods 99.9% of the time now
Fucking bleak when your giga autist patch notes surfer has given up.
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>Uhm actually the TOS says that any mods you make are your property!
>Yeah but that's not how IP law works, you can't just steal people's work and say it's yours lmao
>Oh yeah, prove it!
>[removed]
>AmazingSully: Okay locking this because ya'll can't behave mmm hmmm
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>Hey can we be told why people are getting banned? Because it's resulting in speculation. Does anyone here know the real reason?
>[removed]
>AmazingSully: I have removed your comment because there is a significant amount of misinformation in it. Please avoid baselessly speculating at the actions of another without evidence. This behaviour does nothing but encourage harassment of innocent parties.
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>>2631970
>>2631980
where did this sully faggot come from?
naturally they have a private profile, but I still remember when enigma was a forums/discussions janny and he'd go out of his way to ragebait people so he could ban them.
This sully faggot is just as bad too, but has a queer retard tone to everything they type (+ whatever the fuck their profile picture is)
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>>2632078
EnigmaGrey was getting a little too on-the-nose, so they fired him and hired this faggot who is just as much of an asshole but does the passive-aggressive shit instead of overtly-aggressive shit.
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SHOW ME YOUR BASE
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new zomboid killer game got a demo recently, anyone tried it?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2387670/As_One_We_Survive/
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>>2632477
>Synty
Into the trash it goes.
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>>2629801
It would be so sick for there to be a balance stat for bikes being the easiest to ride, roller skates and roller blades to be intermediate, and a skateboard being the hardest to ride, with soft wheels or a longboard being the silent version of a skateboard. There's enough "build things" skills in the game, I want skills that let you be more agile or or change what you can do without tools like a grip skill



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