Anyone going to be playing EQL? I tried to get into Everquest a few times in the very early 00's, but it never stuck, I was more of a UO guy. This one sounds fun though, they are making to be very solo and small group friendly, and you can do pretty much everything with one character (swap classes/races easily, like in FFXIV).
Yes, looking forward to it.
>>2665590Based, what are you going to play first? I'm thinking Paladin/Cleric/Bard. Either a Froglok or a Human, depending on if I want to be a funny little frog guy or a cute girl. Might depend on the name I manage to reserve.
Already have it downloaded, along with the ui grid program, and the map packs i like. Everquest was my first mmo and i have fond memories of it and the people (mostly) i met there.
>>2666629I'm looking forward to really exploring it for the first time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V01PD78dtI8
>>2666533You doing this for solo play or grouping? It seems like groups will be much rarer in this version of Everquest unless you put in work to make it happen.
>>2668014I'm mostly going to be solo, but I won't intentionally isolate myself either.
What's a good combo, with bard, magician or necro? Kind of want to be a supporty caster dps with bars/enchanter
>>2669393Bards pair well with most things because they can just passively buff themselves, plus they give access to dual wield. I would suggest watching this video for a good overview of all of the classes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKGGN1X3yukThis other guy goes over some good/bad combos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amJZ-htnw34
>>2668014Grouped for every +4 lockout in closed beta, just ask you'll find people thanks to personal loot and trading if each got loot the others need
>EQ with no consequences or socializing >run by a troonNah I'm good
I'm playing it now, Pld/Dru/Mnk at the moment, my biggest issue is that without all of the early dungeons being revamped, it feels like you're almost being funneled into Befallen, and I guess Blackburrow? The loot in those areas in particular is phenomenal, arguably overpowered.
It's been a nostalgia bomb everywhere I go. I hope they don't try to fuck us with the "micro"transactions.
>>2674734Not just 1, but 3 troons. Imagine giving your money to a team of disgusting troons.
>>2677394It's an eerie feeling but I question how much pushback the community would actually have for it, the fact it's a sub-based game is already iffy. But I'd rather they keep the subscription than try and nickel and dime us, realistically I probably won't even play past the first "Free" sub month from the box price.
>>2674734TRVTH NUKEI only see the most pathetic of boomers shilling this on youtube nonstop, all anti social style players.
Bard/Necro/Ench has been fun. just zooming mobs over
>>2678914I swapped from Pld/Dru/Mnk to Pld/Shm/Ber after getting to 25 and getting all the teleports I wanted, it feels way cleaner. Is a lot of your damage on that build primarily from being able to double-gear and buff pets?
>>2665131I played the beta. It gets pretty repetitive. There isn't anything to do other than kill kill kill, and sometimes you'll get a gear upgrade.All the other incidental activities have been stripped from the world. Don't need to go to merchants, or the bank, or the market. You don't need to interact with anyone for services or help. No need to do any quest hustling, like with bonechips or crushbone belts.It's a very narrow experience.
>>2679918I don't think the game will last very long content wise, even the "updates" to dungeons they have are just loot changes. And looking in chat, you can see all kinds of people who are either dumb as bricks or never played the game before asking why their Ogre can't easily get spells for classes they usually can't play.
>>2679958I caught the end of that stream. Someone had asked about quest itemization and the devs basically said "we'll see".It's all so dumb.I used to think poop sockers ruined the game, but now I realize it was the casuals who demanded the game change to suit them. I hate them. I've always been a casual player. I never raided much. I just liked chilling in the world, trying out different camps and seeing what other players were up. I never had any expectation I'd get top tier gear, never wanted it either. But it was cool being a small part in a big world.
>>2679972A lot of it seems to burn the fire of some of the changes Quarm made, where it's going to be an EQ+ kind of things. The reality is that it seems to be a way for Secrets and the other people at Gamejawn to eventually nickel and dime the playerbase by adding MTX, since people are already ready to defend only having two "loadouts" when the game is meant to allow you have hundreds of combos. The hypercasualization really is present from the tutorial as well, giving out Jbootsjr to every class.
>>2680010>lot of it seems to burn the fire of some of the changes Quarm made, where it's going to be an EQ+ kind of thingsBut even on Quarm, you still had to deal with certain realities. Coins had weight, you'd have to sell vendor trash to make money (and you can't origin so you are rewarded knowing local merchants)You needed other players for key buffs. No OOC regen.Just all the little things that added friction that felt rewarding to overcome, even though it didn't directly reward experience.All those little things are lacking in EQL.I think Quarm was probably the last opportunity to play something resembling EQ with a large leveling population, and I'm glad I was a part of it.>MTXI'm looking forward to seeing what kind of shit they pull with this. >>2679972>But it was cool being a small part in a big worldAnd to add to this, I'd rather never kill Nagafen than be able to kill Nagafen every week.
>>2680060It honestly feels like raids should've been left as group content, having an online game built around being entirely soloable feels awkward, and somewhat dishonest when it comes to being a game with a sub.
>>2674993That's exactly what's going on. Overland should have been given some love there especially after the dungeon exp nerf. They want people going everywhere in the game but only made a few worth going to other than for exploration purposes.
>>2680305I also think they put far too much stuff in Befallen, and that it'll make them being able to put worthwhile loot in other instances leading up to getting planar gear either infinitesimally small or just not worth getting. The power creep on gear is already insane, and it feels like it'll just get much worse.
>>2678815Everquest was made for antisocial retards. 90% of the community boxes instead of forming groups lol
Trying out Iksar Monk/Cleric/Enchanter 'cuz Iksar was my favorite race and those were my favorite classes back when I played the original Everquest when I was a kid.
>>2682422I really regret not just starting Iksar
>>2682620But this is a beta where everything gets wiped. There is nothing to regret about whatever you try. Feel free to mess around. Me and my friend have both agreed that we'll be trying a bunch of different things across different rerolls. No point in getting attached to something that will get erased. For example, I have determined that playing Iksar without Kunark is suicidal so at launch I will play something else. I can change to Iksar later using those tokens or whatever.
>>2682881Playing Iksar without Greenmist is like going a day without beating a gnome to death
>>2682881>without KunarkStarting in Kunark is my favorite perk of being a lizard at all. Who wants to start in the shitty desert!
Magician or necro with bard?
>>2685856You could do both, you'd have a ton of spell options though. What's your other third?
I like how the Iksar transported the ancient ruined stone from Kunark to Antonica. Like why would they do that? They must really like that stone.
I kind of hate how the race unlocks are stuff like handing in fifty million muffins
>>2685930just buy a token from the cash shop bruh
>>2685932That's the thing though, the reason it's "reasonable" for them to do this is because it's a faction gain thing instead of being a quest of some sort.
>>2685938>reasonableI don't understand.Nothing related to a cash shop is reasonable
>Human>Agnostic>Warrior>EyepatchYeah it'sEVERQUEST time
>>2682620u can unlock races through faction then race-change. you get ally (iksar is feeding bone chips) then u get the achievement to do it
>Secrets now claiming the closed beta storage numbers were unreasonable expectations for staying in>They set those expectations
>>2685947i want them to fully copy thj and put world buffs on the cash shop so that people will paypig to get namedropped in the world chat every few hoursso i can get all the buffs without having to buff myself... fuck that shit
>>2687738Are you judging a person by not only their words but their actions? You fool!>>2682920>GreenmistIksar SK/Shaman using Greenmist while wearing Scaled Mystic Armor oh baby.
So people are really trusting the discord tranny new?With none of those being buzz words in his case?
>>2681706It wasn't made with that in mind you disingenuous faggot, the pathetic loser boomers who still play today on TLPs and make youtube videos love that sort of anti social loser play and a server designed around making you a multibox army but combined into 1 character fits that perfectly for these sad sacks of loser.
GAYBREAK GAMES WILL PAY
>>2688266lmao
>EQL wiki>Donate button at the bottom>Copypasted P99 wiki pages with huge OUT OF ERA buttons over stuff that was put in post base game
>>2688204Yeah. And people who get mad when they play certain unwanted classes and don't want to deal with the consequences, although that's not a problem unique to Everquest.
>>2689099No one else can tank, no one wants to pull?Ranger gods its OUR time.
Which pride flag are you guys buying first from the mtx store?
Having no placeholders in "revamped" dungeons makes going to other dungeons feel really weird, in that it almost feels like it reinforces that you'll get most of your gear doing Befallen/Najena because you can KNOW you're getting drops there.
>>2692737I liked the old PH system/camping and I really liked knowing if the mob had a particular weapon by seeing it. I presume the lazy upgrade system they introduced and the player-specific loot system are what got those removed. Kind of a bummer but I might be in the minority.
>>2692839Honestly, I get that there's "personal loot" but if it's personal loot it shouldn't differentiate with what the mob is holding in my opinion. I admit, I never played classic everquest, I've played P99 and Quarm, but even early on not having that feeling of seeing a skeleton with a cracked staff and beelining toward it for the cash feels weird. I also don't mind the PH/Camping system, but I feel like they've set a really odd precedent with how revamped dungeons operate and it feels like they plan to eventually have that encompass the entire game. I think it's an overall bad change because people will have to go through lower level content over and over and it'll make it feel like you're getting less and less out of doing it because you're not going to get that lucky spawn, or that lucky drop.
>>2692875While we are complaining, let me add another: They're putting in a forgiveness system for Plane of Sky that will favor your current 3 classes over the ones you aren't using- as far as drops are concerned. I worry that will either cause balancing headaches or it's going to be a pain in the ass to get things for alternative setups you suck at but enjoy playing. >revamped dungeonsI'd rather they added new dungeons/overland zones instead of mutilating the old ones, but I understand the laziness behind it. The loot concerns you have are substantial. I wonder what the detriment to the gameplay loop that's already handicapped by the limited content that is vanilla Everquest will end up being. Is everybody really going to grind their one character to full 50s classes? Can't be me.
>>2692958>While we are complaining, let me add another: They're putting in a forgiveness system for Plane of Sky that will favor your current 3 classes over the ones you aren't using- as far as drops are concerned. I worry that will either cause balancing headaches or it's going to be a pain in the ass to get things for alternative setups you suck at but enjoy playing.That sounds kind of shitty, considering the way to unlock other primary classes is by finishing their Sky quests. Or at least it sounds like it'd be shitty. I also agree that a lack of overland play is weird, on the first day of the buy-to-beta it was full of people in /1 asking for their ogres or whatever to get group ported to Befallen. A version of Everquest that actively discourages exploration feels really out of place.
>>2692737I hate the revamped dungeons and gear. As the days go on I just think more and more than I want to get off Secrets' wild ride. I don't want to play tranny OC I want to play EQ, but like the version that I was playing that they took down and replaced with this shit.
>>2693204I think gear being as good as it is in Befallen is incredibly short-sighted and they're now afraid to nerf it because of community backlash. Even playing P99 I fondly remember getting my first set of banded gear and being so excited for that stat and visual change, having my character look like that much more an experienced adventurer. And Befallen shits out stuff that's magnitudes better than stuff that's ridiculously strong.
>>2693214Between the revamps and spell upgrades and loadout slots and inventory slots and character slots it's clear to me they have no idea wtf they're doing. It very much comes across as a bunch of disjointed ideas without any actual design behind them. I honestly don't think this will interest me past the first included month.
>>2693226I think with the loadouts and other things that are going to be shoved in as mtx/achievements that both "Game Jawn" and Daybreak overplayed their hand, but being that Daybreak has managed to keep games like DCUO up based around boomers paying for stupid dogshit I imagine they'll be able to keep the game afloat on pensions for a while.
How have you guys been enjoying pet classes?After finally getting access to Shm's it changed up my playstyle a bit. I was thinking on launch that I might want to go Brd/Shm/Nec because it's so often been better to tank up in evasive stance and let my pet do a little extra work while DoTs tick
For me, it's SoloQuest
The fact that they are limiting it to old school models already makes this superior to THJ. The fact that one of the THJ devs preferred new models always made it a schizophrenic mess to look at.I will also play this because now I won't be pressured into multiboxing 3 characters.
Innoruk is based btw
>>2696931Yeah his loot's pretty nice
This time I'm gonna get a fucking Rain Caller
>>2693214>I fondly remember getting my first set of banded gear and being so excited for that stat and visual change, having my character look like that much more an experienced adventurerThis
>>2693204>I hate the revamped dungeonsI think it was Broken Stoic who said it, but some streamer mentioned that the team wants to revamp Kunark's starting experience. I'm more worried about that than I should be- I love Kunark.*edited to fix my retardation
>>2704262And why shouldn't you be worried about it? Have you seen what they are doing so far? People talking about getting fucking "befallen geared" to prep for endgame. It's rancid. I don't want to kill the same guaranteed spawns for dupes of the same guaranteed drops so I can merge them like a fucking phone game. Nothing about that is EQ to me. I'm glad that I think the game sucks otherwise I would be even more pissed off about the in-game shop. Having a fake currency at all is shit and charging $5 for a single loadout slot is shit. It's all shit. The revamps and custom content are exactly what Secrets was trying to do on Quarm before DBG shut that shit down. His ideas are just bad.
>>2704433I really don't see how they're going to actually put gear better than Befallen's in some of these areas since it seems like you're meant to go from Pristine Leather to Planar. I was excited to get a Ykesha from LGuk then realized outside of the proc (Which can be removed from it), it's not even that much better, if at all better than the weapons I'd gotten from a fucking level 25ish dungeon mob
>>2704433I knew nothing of Secrets and when EQL was announced I was warned not to trust the tranny. I see wisdom in those words now. Was losing interest in EQL seeing how they are completely fucking the old-world itemization and the cash show was the final nail. The paypigs defending it too are just rancid.How about emu servers? Anything worth playing? Is that Evangelical anon still running that solo server? I tried perkeycrew but I really don’t want to use macroquest.
>>2704651>I see wisdom in those words nowThese dudes are really going to waste their development time cashgrabbing housing. In Everquest.
>>2704651>EvangelicalI'm Catholic. SoloQuest is and will remain running for the foreseeable future. Legends looks like quite the shitshow, huh? That cash shop lmao.
>>2706238Is that why some self-righteous Christfag had a fit once in the thread? That was you? Lol.
I feel like the main audience that would have done all the stupid fucking achievements to get races and such unlocked at the EXACT same boomers who will pay for the race unlocks instead.
>>2708110Are you Jewish?
>>2708529Christ was out there at the EC tunnel helping the Israelites out daily
>>2704433>>2704651secrets was known for making unblanced jank eqemu servers exactly like thjeql is meant to be an officially monetized funserver and is probably the first ever mmo to do so
>>2714988THJ felt a lot less jank than EQL. It felt a lot more like EQ too, where you run around and explore and progress through stuff instead of nolifing it in a tiny number of revamped dungeons with completely fucked itemization. Even if they finish revamping the dungeons before launch (they won't), what is the point of the rest of the zones? You have no reason to do fucking anything in the actual world on EQL. Things can be fun if they're unbalanced jank but EQL isn't even that. It's just a bunch of systems thrown together incoherently. They put in a lot more work than the THJ devs for a much worse product which, ironically, is setting them up to put even more work in to keep things going because they've fucked things up so fundamentally. They're going to be expected to revamp more and more things and redo all itemization going forward.
>>2715033i think you're on crack desuin thj you leveled in 4-5 good grind zones for your combo and then did raidsthere was no reason to go anywhere(besides epic quests) unless you wanted to collect the waypoints and everyone zoomed through the lower levels so fast that you might as well have started at level 50idk how you came to that conclusion at all, if anything EQL seems annoyingly insistent on having actual progression instead of getting 100+AAs per pull and full grinding your class in a day
