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Working as intended edition
AKA
Fixed thread title edition

Private servers
Auravia - https://auraviaxi.com/
Catseye - https://catseyexi.com/
Eden - https://edenxi.com
Eventide - https://www.eventidexi.org/
HorizonXI - https://horizonxi.com/
PegasusXI - https://pegasusxi.com/index.html

Upcoming Private Servers
CalamityXI - https://calamityxi.com/
PhoenixXI - https://phoenix-xi.com/
ZenithXI - https://www.zenithxi.com/

Retail
http://www.playonline.com

Resources
https://flippantry.com/skillchain/
http://www.ffxicalculator.com/
http://www.pyogenes.com/ffxi/timer/v2.html
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Main_Page
https://classicffxi.fandom.com/wiki/Classic_FFXI_community
http://campsitarus.blogspot.com/

Last Thread: >>2790857
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>>2873192
Wow that was quick. Good job OP
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Every girl I've ever met in this game who I could more or less verify has a vagina IRL has been an absolute nutter.
Setsuko isn't even that bad by comparison.
FFXI used to have AOL chat room hook up levels of nutty dodgers.
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>>2873474
13 year old me convinced my LS leader’s gf to send me titty pics.

She was a mudshark so of course she had self esteem issues and was willing to send them
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>>2873692
>She was a mudshark
this thread is for private server schizos, not your bbc cuckold fetish fantasies, white man
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I'm getting seriously burnt out on Horizon. Like what's the fucking point?
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>>2873893
take a break until phoenix bro
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>>2873893
you WILL play and FIND out

The bugs we introduced from our AI? Working as intended. No, you can't look at our code. No, you can't talk to us about how WE decide to make OUR slop.

Well, unless you're a female streamer that is.
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>>2873893

Bro just get your relic, got one?

get another, got another?

get another... got all of them?

IDK man go camp fafhog or something, or just jerk off dude jesus get a life man STOP LOOKING AT ME!
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>>2873913
>got all of them?
Thats when you start making stage 4 kikoku as an offhand since you can have both
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newfag OP round 2
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>>2873903
A female OR Crabdance; it should be.
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>>2873903
Tell me all the insider PAFO info and I will suck your dick at a meetup.
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>>2874436
Hugin has been activated somewhere.
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>>2874916
who the fuck are these people and why should I care when I am on an anonymous imageboard and we don't have a server shell on any server?
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>Yeah I'm in the tranny server where we gossip about other tranny freaks
>What do you mean "that's weird"? You're weird for not knowing that Lillith and Zoe broke up and keeping tabs on their daily lives in a dead mmo that's old enough to drink!
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>>2874927
Will you make the shell on phoenix so we can talk about which staff are sex pests in game?
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>>2875192
That's how you get your relic buffed on Horizon.
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>>2875538
Is that why Aerec is smiling in the OP up top?
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I played eden for a few months before getting run off by a cabal of taru taru black mages abusing level sync in quifim

Phoenix looks good and is launching soon.
The worst thing about eden was people dual boxing white mage to power level parties of 6, a 50 white mage carring people through valkurm

That being said have any servers tried doing major class balance or more wacky changes? The core mechanics of this game are among the best in the genre but the slavish devotion to the original metagame only holds things back IMO. There are wonderful romhacks for old SNES and PS1 FF games and this game has a ton of potential in that regard

>>2873474
tons of hook ups in FF14
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>>2876158
>major class balance
this is what most people thought horizon would do before it launched but it ended up being mostly the same shit or worse
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>>2876163
what are some of the changes they made?
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>>2876180
https://horizonffxi.wiki/Category:Horizon_Changes
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>>2876163
What is their idea of class balance? Seems like inconsistent dogshit across the board.
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>>2876198
Yes you’ve nailed it
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>>2876198
>The core pillar of job balancing is that all jobs must retain their level 75 cap identity.
>Any adjustments directly solve an existing balance problem in era, with mandates of feeling appropriate for the 75 cap era and pushing a job closer to its core identity.
They must've forgotten about this somewhere along the way because lol Corsair's Roll at 75
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How do you play around unstacked items on Phoenix? Level Woodworking and Mining to 60 for making lumber and ingots? Or do we need GP items too?
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>>2876184
>preserve 75 era's class identity
terrible idea . We want a new metagame, better subjobs, more subjob options for everyone. We want to add to everyone's class identity.
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>4change LS is kind of a good idea
>realize that when people roll on Phoenix they will just use the same name as their toon on horizon or catseye

>>2875175
I can make a shell when phoenix drops and get pearls to people etc but namefags from previous iterations may just straight up not get a pearl. Anonymous basket weaving forum, not public namefag basket weaving forum, remember?

Daily reminder if you plan to roll on Phoenix do it with a fresh discord and character name to avoid namefagging
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>>2875452
i asked a girl to buff my gungnir once and got blacklisted :(
I think it was probably a G.I.R.L.
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>>2876340
Based. I'm in if you do it and truly keep the dramaniggers out.
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>>2876340
it's not that deep bro
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>>2876364
Yeah it is g, why the fuck would I be here otherwise? A N O N Y M I T Y you mong

>>2876362
It may be the only way forward
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I might play on Phoenix. Lately i've been hooked on city of heroes
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>>2876370
actually thinking about it yeah you're right it is that deep, especially considering the type of schizos that post itt
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oh boy a nonny guild, those tend to be full of the weirdest fuckers you'll ever meet.
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>>2876392
You are the only constant.
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>>2876437
joined a few wow pserver nonny guilds, they tend to be unhinged.
You guys are cool, though. I mean maybe. Except the namefags.
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what class is everyone going to roll on phoenix? I'm lookin at blu
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>>2876271
It’s already going to be more generous than retail because it’s launching with mpg wardrobe and satchel. Aside from that you just go back to town to unload your crap sooner. It’s not some massive hinderance to gameplay.

Sweats will probably just have their “””wife’s account””” go out to yhoator and pick up their inventory so they never have to leave still
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>>2876271
same as before except if you farm your own mats, you craft in-field now to save trips. Or you do the same as before and let others farm/HELM for you and just buy the mats (which they'll be more incentivized to do since mats should be more expensive).
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>>2876588
Something fun, so not pld whm thf rdm blm sam cor war
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>>2876340
>>2876370
What will happen:
>Namefag with a past will be let in
>This guy will refuse to kick them because "he's chill tho" and the LS will have that all of that person's baggage retroactively applied to it
>Thread filled with shitposts about the whole situation
>A few months down the line, after loads of red flags the leader ignores, said namefag will trigger "The Incident"
>LS fractures into multiple smaller ones run by the various cliques from the original who hate each other
>Said cliques use the thread to schizo war against one another
>Cycle repeats next Fresh
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>>2877011
Forgot the part where the namefag is inevitably given officer powers and erps with the ls owner.
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Is it worth playing FF11 private server if I have no intention of ever programming in any gearswap shit? I played retail and liked it, but dropped it due to fucking gearswap being a pain in the dick. Basically, is FF11 worth playing if I'll just be sticking to one set of gear? (Assume I'm playing with people OK with it.)
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>>2877207
If you’re playing exclusively with people who are cool with you gimping their party, sure. Everyone else is going to avoid you. The damage/performance gains are too big to ignore
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type of nigga to full time dusk gear
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>>2877273
Horizon players are very retarded. The assault missions are easily exposing the low IQ of most of the players.
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>>2876588
i was thinking about pld again but i'm not sure how different pld was on horizon. i liked it there though.
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>>2877207
75 cap takes very little gear compared to 99.
Like white mage might benefit from gearswap and most melee can get by without it.
For white mage you can get your cure casting time so low that without gearswap you'll be midcasting in your precast gear. Gearswap/ashitacast prevents that from happening.
ashitacast is almost trivial to set up, you'd determine the best gear for your idle set which if you're a good player has some regen/refresh/damage taken gear in it.

For example, my bard has an idle set that gives -49% physical damage and -28% magic damage and a hybrid idle set that gives 92 fire and thunder resist with -28% mdt. It doesn't sound like much but it's pretty huge when you're fighting random fire damage shit like bahamut or cerberus or thunder damage shit like tyger and khimaira o when you have a good white mage using max buffed barthundra you don't get toasted by fulmination when one of your stunners misses a stun
But then i have fast cast gear and song casting time gear in precast, and i have it set to swap to minstrels when my hp is yellow and then my midcast depends on the song but you can use sheikh gages and sitagoromo for lullaby which gives you -7 second recast which is really overkill for merits but you might get a lot of use out of them for content if you're doing CC
that shits hard to do without ashitacast.
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Best race/class combo to use as an outlet for my AGP?
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>>2877513
elvaan female
and idk maybe a samurai
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>>2877480
Chivalry is originally a merit ability and they just gave it to pld at some level on horizon. Auto refresh level was reduced iirc. I think the made changes to cover. Enlight was never a thing. They made changes to clubs allowing pld to use more of them. Holy circle and shield bash were also tweaked but I don’t know exactly how anymore. So, a lot of changes actually
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>>2877207
You can play it fine without gearswap youd probably just stick to very basic gearswaps that you can manage with equipsets
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>>2877527
moonlight is also buffed, it's like 2-3 times what it was on retail, on Horizon you can reliably solo on a paladin while on retail paladin couldnt solo for shit.
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>>2877513
any female WHM
probably not elvaan though since they don't look as girly
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>>2877527
>>2877549
shit, i might skip paladin then. on horizon the job felt very active while leveling since you could spam a lot more heals with chivalry and moonlight and i thought the cooldown cycling was kinda fun mixed in with that.

what other jobs are really active? am i forced to play a bard and pull everything? i never played rdm, would that a busy job too?
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I play a hume (face 1, hair 1, medium body size), i eat vanilla ice cream, i eat cheese pizza, i drive a baige toyota camry, i work at a generic office from 9-5, i have a family with two kids (1 boy 1 girl) and i live in a Tract housing home, i am content.

When i am feeling a little rebellious i like to drink a sip of wine on the weekends.
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Hume M. Face 4. Hair 2. Small.
It's gamer time.
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>>2877621
paladin wasn't that much different on retail its just that colibri parties don't really need one.
Good TOAU parties skip the tank and go DD DD DD cor bard rdm
Up until TOAU a paladin needed a red mage to keep refresh on him, and he kept hate by healing himself in a party. These groups were very slow because of downtime and paladin cant even hold hate against a real DD.
When a good TOAU party kills so fast that provoke is pointless, and your bard puller is effectively the tank, paladin groups would kill IT shit like crabs in 45-60 seconds.
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>>2877621
Rdm is super busy imo. Whm can be too. Idk what you classify busy I guess. Brd doesn’t seem busy to me, you’re just running constantly.
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Is Horizon a bad server to play on? It kind of seems like people hate them. Do people expect Phoenix to actually be better when it comes out? How about Zenith?

I don't have much experience with FF11 past playing the story on retail, but ToAU content seems a little weird to me. Won't ToAU invalidate most Promathia stuff?
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>>2877739
>paladin groups would kill IT shit like crabs in 45-60 seconds.
that's what i remember doing back in the day, complete with blms magic bursting freeze.

will the colibri meta make paladin less wanted on the phoenix launch then? i assumed low gear levels might still make plds viable but i guess groups could just take wars with spears or drgs to colibri instead.

>>2877794
i want to be pressing buttons instead of just standing in 1 spot waiting for tp to fill up. paladin had the mp and cooldown management going for it while leveling even though you stood in one spot. saying that, rdm or whm does sound like what i want.

for bard, i was thinking that there would be spawn management and song management mixed together with the pulling so that it'd feel more interactive than some other jobs. but i never played brd on horizon because of the stigma that if you level brd to 75, you're stuck playing it forever and it seemed boring at end game outside of merit parties.
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>>2877828
Horizon is a fine server if you like custom content. People are salty over it because of all the broken promises and a staff that has been replaced since launch with people who genuinely seem to hate the playerbase.

If you just want a server to run the content and play around casually it’s fine. It’s nowhere near retail era accurate in many things though
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>>2877832
>will the colibri meta make paladin less wanted on the phoenix launch then?
people will need to get to colibri levels though, and no one but the richest niggas are gonna level NIN for at least a couple months
Every alliance wants at least one PLD anyway and it's a really solid job for missions
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>>2877832
Brd is just play song > pull mob > sleep mob > play another song > repeat. You’re just doing 2 ballads and whatever 2 songs the melee want on repeat.

Rdm you have mp management on top of healing, debuffing, buffing, status removal. It’s a pretty demanding job if you want to be good at it imo. Whm is the same except without refresh and less mp management tools. Once they add afflatus solace in wotg expansion whm becomes easier.

There are other jobs you could consider busy but the level of busy is pretty much entirely up to you
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>>2877828

No one is stopping you from wasting your time on horizon, just be ready for:

1. Getting kicked / laughed at because you got no gear
2. Getting kicked because you dont know WTF you are doing and people just want to level really fast
3. Knowing you will NEVER catch up to literally 99% of the server, you will always be 1000 steps behind everyone else.
4. Expect to grind a LOT for gil and have competition in pretty much every way to get gil or gear, dont expect to ever get a claim on anything, some of these guys have been camping o kotes / fuma / pin for literal years and have it down to a science.
5. expect to pay out the yin yang for consumables and crystals (if you want to even bother crafting lmao) EVERYTHING is inflated because gil is so inflated after 4 years of CoP grinding.

Other than that yeah its pretty good.
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>>2877828
Phoenix has the backing of the core devs for the LSB project. It’s open source as well. All the coding is done based on the Japanese wiki for the game. I don’t know why that is the definitive source for accurate information vs any other wiki or forum from that era, but that’s what they’re basing all the coding on. If you look at their discord the bug page has a lot of retail captures to back up the claims of how things should be coded.

Will it be the last ffxi era private server? Doubtful. Only because drama always kills these projects.
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>>2877893
Do you think that same culture will form in Phoenix before long?
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>>2877874
yeah, i figure it will take a while for people to actually start having /nin subs while leveling. on horizon at launch people seemed to do start leveling their nin sub after they hit 75 on their first job.

>>2877878
whm doesn't have the solo meme potential either, right? rdm is sounding pretty good, needing to do bcnms at 40 to get refresh is the only part that sounds annoying but i'm guessing there will be a lot of rdms looking for groups for that.
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>>2877914
It's inevitable. That's why you have to get in early while there are still fresh faces and hope.
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>>2877914

Always does, thats why you get in on the first year, also horizon stagnated WAY too fuckin long, the way phoenix buds have been progressing i would say 1-2 years for WoTG, then again who the fuck knows, Aerec said we would have treasures 6 months post launch LMAO
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>>2877922
The same level as rdm, no. You can actually make a melee build on whm though and it’s pretty fun. If you’re rich enough it can even be good, but then again rdm can as well. Rdm can be used for the bcnm40 for peacock charm so it will be relatively trivial to get your spells assuming you have the seals.
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On phoenix or any fresh server without the loaded AH bullshit, generally it takes about 6 months for the AH to actually get stocked with decent amount of items, its literally months of people just getting enough gil to do shit lol
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>>2877946
thanks for the insight. i'll probably end up playing rdm or whm then, i'm sort of leaning towards whm first since whm seems like it'll be less in demand for leveling as the server progresses.
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>>2877983
Definitely. Just don’t expect to be able to join merit parties on whm. Endgame opportunists are also fewer, specifically in the low man end game content like assaults and salvage
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Just play what you want. Anything that isn't BRD, COR or RDM is just a warm body.
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>>2878022
Taru PLD here we go
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>>2878076
>One of the best race options for Paladin in the game due to infinite healing/flashes
Yep.
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>>2878087
I never understood this argument. Yes they can cast more, but once you’re out of mp you’re at the same level as every other race. If you never run out, neither do the other races.
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>>2873164
Why are they always BPD?
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>>2879234
they're women
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>>2877878
I pick camps where mobs link and pull 4-6 mobs at a time, horde lullaby them, play song, utsusemi, recast horde lullaby, pianissimo ballads if I have time
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>>2877893
I just soloed so long I had around 8 stacks of beastmen seals and I sell moon orbs. I made about 2.5 mil off of people who wanted a kclub from fe'e
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Watched some people on Horizon do ISNM and it was just falling over in 20 seconds and the fight was completely wrong. Do you chuds actually enjoy beating up loot pinatas
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>>2880080
nigga no one here is playing on horizon
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did eden ever change bluemage to not double dip con stat differences? Did they ever fix blusets?
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>>2879993

8 stacks of seals is fucking insane lmao, not sure 2.5 mil is even worth that.
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>>2880536

Assuming seals have a 100% chance to drop (its 20%), you were literally doing NOTHING but farming for them solo the ENTIRE time, that is 66 hours of grinding MINIMUM!, that doesnt even include the time it takes to kill the mob either.
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>install horizon
>try to learn sheep song for 6 hours
>uninstall horizon
Well I had my fun. Yall take care now
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>>2880080
These players are just really skilled! This is era accurate!
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>>2880080
I do wonder if Horizon being so easy is going to make people bounce off Phoenix which will be harder since it's more accurate to the era formulas.
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>>2880542
well i was a HC character and i had to solo to 30 because there were no groups, i also did 6 jobs to 20+, mostly soloed paladin to 45, and i did it half afk, the WOTG exp rates made everything trivial.
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>>2881395
100% will. Or make people seethe about how the server is coded wrong
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>>2881395

Lol its hilarious the difference, the other day i got hit with an EP sickle slash and it was like 300 damage.
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>6-4 with proper damage values
prepare your assholes
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I wonder if I should make a Sandy Elvaan again or go vanilla Bastok Hume
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>>2881908

>Patiently waiting for daddy kippling
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>>2882030
Um bro why are you preparing your anus for a 4k geirskogul?
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I think some people will bounce off but they’re likely the people who wouldn’t have played 75 cap anyway. Not worth catering to those people, the multitude of custom servers in existence like horizon and Catseye already cater to them
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>>2882087
reasonable take. not every server is for everyone.

thats why AAA sloppa in 20XX past like 2003 has been relatively bad. Games aren't made for specific tastes, but for everyone.
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>>2882087
I'm glad it exists, I don't want to play on a custom server like Horizon and Catseye. Eden population is too dead and too old, not interested. Looking forward to a fresh era accurate server.
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>>2882140
>catseye
>check wiki


shit, i should probobly just play this server. whats the downside here. Will it be impossible to level as a late join?
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>>2882201
>whats the downside here
it's custom as fuck which I personally don't like but some do
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the downside is the bitcoin miner Carver installs on your machine that also doxxes you
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>>2882238

Gotta pay for the server cost somehow chudlet.
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>>2882201
Hop on, make an ACE character and follow the new player guide, use partyfinder addon (built in) to jump in exp parties etc, hop on bro it's good sauce I am working on prestiging atm (once you hit 75 you can reset 5 times per job for awesome job specific bonuses)
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Scholar will be the meta healer once it finally releases in private servers
>but scholar will be the meta nuker
It will be the meta blm support, only retards will run 6 sch over 5 blm and 1 sch, if horizon unnerfs modus veritas tho then you will have a point but they wont because it is literally impossible to balance that effect without making all content trivial
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>>2882346
I made an ace character i'm a level 3 or 4 red mage in sandy. went beardy this time.

wanna bum me some gil for a better weapon and early spells? looking foreward to doing Blu again, and runefencer is a big draw. I've played ff5 dozens of times and buttz is almost always mystic knight/blu. I have never used trusts before so that might be intresting.

got to 60 something on eden, was the only blu tank on the server ( all four blue mage players lol) i think the gamemasters helped me be the first elf with blue AF

I don't remember shit
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>>2882783
u don't even need the handout just do the trust quests asap then level a job to 20 with trusts with Fields of Valor book objectives and Records of Eminence objectives live and you'll gain sparks - rolandienne at sandy west gate is the sparks vendor you just buy everything you need there skill books weapons armor etc and then with leftover sparks buy Acheron Shield or (anything you can afford really) and vendor it to the food vendor nearby for an amazing gil ratio, vendoring items bought with sparks will have you balling very quickly if you just level up 2-3 jobs to 50 during ur nation mission grind
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>>2882030
Can't wait for the phoenix meetups.
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>>2882748
>>2882748
When has horizon not been trivial? Sky, sea, dynamis so easy that equipment never mattered and the server stagnated for so long everyone is BIS with relics now. Wont matter what they do to MV scholar will be custom slop.
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>>2881395
I always found it weird how as a newbie in horizon everyone hyped up the CoP airship fights as these insanely hard encounters and then when I did it we won first try
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>>2883361
inaccurate fight with stronger players is why
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>>2883361
On top of the damage numbers being off, Horizon buffed blood tanking so PLD/WARs are strong enough to tank it head on. I remember needing a Ninja tank on retail because Ultima and Omega did so much damage.
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>>2882039
4k? What era is this? Seekers of Adoulin? 119?
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>>2882346
skip making an ACE character and play a crystal warrior. ACE is just retail-lite and it's full of bads.
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>>2882748
Catseye has scholar and most of its functionality squished into 75, it's still not a META healer.
you get to alternate accession regen 3 and accession stoneskin while a real white mage never runs out of mana due to mboon spamga with a kuraken kurubbu and outDDs half of your actual DDs
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>>2883582
CW is for hyperautists
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>>2883577
HorizonXI special when you get some DAs
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>>2883590
>whm never runs out of mana if it melees
What content are you doing? Exp parties with trusts?
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My friend just told me about the slut that sucked off the dev to get their relic buffed. Which dev do I need to suck off for my buffs?
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>>2884778
>horizon
>devs
lol
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>>2884564
on catseye ks99, 3 kings ground pops, +2 brews, ZNM, HNMs, we low man a lot of shit with a rune fencer tank, whm/dnc, bard, and whoever else wants to come. mystic boon tends to do a lot of damage, and so does dimidiation
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>>2884899
>level 99
Why did you even reply to that post? Level 99 is essentially a whole different game where every class is good one way or another
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>>2885013
Themis orbs cost 99 kindreds seals, they are level 75 cap fights on catseye that give you regular 3 kings pops for things like KB/Aspid/Nignogg.

It's not level 99
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Why do ffxi pservers allow Atom0s to work on their projects when this nigga sells clipper, claimxi, and fish bots on the side?
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>>2885013
kekking at this, absolutely based retard

CEXI is a 75Cap server, KS99 means 99 Kindred Seals for pop items lol

Couldn't have checked the wiki before you sperged out huh?
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>>2885227
Yeah he needs the czechosladakian interior decorator treatment
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>>2885227
Probably because he is one of the backbones of building our private server emulation + tools. without him, private servers would be even further behind.
Also those cheats are like 20+ years old. And he's a nice helpful guy. Retards here don't like him because they sperg on his subreddit and he bans them.
Who cares?
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Haven't ever played FFXI before but am interested in Phoenix when it comes out. What're the good options for playing as a caster?
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>>2885576
RDM is top tier in everything but functions in leveling more as a healer. At end game it’s more support focused. BLM will be harder to level up but is god tier at end game. Huge damage and unique utility. SMN functions as support and healer while leveling and then is mainly used for support and dealing safe damage to high level targets at end game. WHM is your standard healer focused debuff cleansing job.
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>>2885576
they're all pretty viable and useful. Really just depends on what you want to do between
big spike damage + crowd control (BLM),
main healing/support (WHM),
jack-of-all-trades (but mainly healing/debuffing in group content) (RDM) or,
jack-of-all-trades but with big summon pets (SMN)
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>>2885576
literally any of them. black mages and summoners are top tier damage dealers at end game, red mage is arguably the best job in the game, and white mage is still good and has a niche.
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>>2885668
Never mention Scummoner in this thread again.
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Is BLU not actually a caster?
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>>2886483
DD limited by MP
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>>2886483
It’s a melee that casts. Less of a full blown caster
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>>2885576
>White Mage
Standard healer, gets debuff support (but not as good as Red Mage), the most mp efficient healing in the game (until Scholar comes along) and useful buffs like haste and proshell. Its downside is being reliant on other jobs for mp refresh which means its worse than red mage when it comes to fast tp burn-like parties since you don’t need burst healing and they can’t recover MP as fast as Red Mage.

>Red Mage
Primarily a debuffer, gets all the highest tier of debuffs in the game. Also gets access to healing, the same useful buffs as white mage and some light nuking but it has horrible MP efficiency for all of them, especially healing since it only gets access to tier 1 Regen. The jobs call to fame is exclusivity to the spell refresh (a buff that gives mp regen) and the ability convert (swaps MP/HP values). A good Red Mage will basically never run out of MP unless their party is really bad thanks to these abilities. Of course this means that Red Mage takes on the role of a healer more often than not but it is technically a job that can do everything, even some meeleing.

>Black Mage
Standard nuke mage job, not much else to say here. You have some unique stat debuffs to help your party in the form of elemental DOT and you thrive in magic burst parties (not exactly common but not bad either). Like White Mage you will be reliant on other people giving you refresh.

I’ll continue in another post
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>>2886622
>Summoner
This is basically all mages combined but limited to only using 1 offensive ability and 1 support ability per minute. It has very powerful support, healing and damage but it comes out very slowly and it is very costly MP wise, the pets also have a perpetual mp cost when out to compound these downsides. Its common to Sub white mage on this job to act as a subpar healer with huge MP pool when waiting for cooldowns. Since it uses pets it means its also a master kiter and very efficient at soloing especially if you use its cheapest pet (carbuncle), it can also save your party by simply distracting aggro with its pets.

>blue mage
Probably the actual sword mage, its essentially a melee dd that casts spells. They actually get a mix of elemental magic and physical based magic and even some supportive/healing magic. They can perform many active roles such as backup healing, crowd control, debuffing, and they can even magic burst once they learn the right abilities but a lot of their buffs are self-cast (though they can do some unique things like aoe stoneskin or blink)

>Puppet master
Not really a mage more like a mechanic with a very varied pet but I thought it was worth mentioning because its pet can be a Red Mage, White Mage or Black Mage depending on what its equipped. If you like the idea of controlling a mage automaton than this job may be for you.

I should probably also mention these:
>Bard
The ultimate support job with access to all the most coveted buffs in the game. Sadly thats all it does so its very reliant on being in a party as its job is to make other players stronger.

>corsair
Basically bard but rng buffs and uses a gun. Its honestly a mix of bard and the job ranger but its just as highly covered as bard for its buffs and even has some buffs bard cannot provide.
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>BRD RDM SAM SAM SAM WAR
>camp colibri
Or
>PLD BLM WHM BRD or RDM SAM WAR
>camp trolls

There is only one correct answer, choose wisely.
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>>2886847
!addmerits 10
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>>2886847
the latter cuz its actually sort of fun
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>>2885458
Those cheats are old and he maintains them and eliteapi dlls.
If Squenix wanted to pull a Blizzard they could sue this nigga blind.
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how much of horizon's changelog is AI generated and how much is stolen from LSB?
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>>2887387
All of it
All of it
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>>2887183
i hope they do solely because hes a faggot
look at this fruity nigga
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>>2887404
>Virtue signaling
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>Try to make a gameplay post
>NOOOOOOOO LOOK AT THIS GAY PERSON I HATE TALK ABOUT THIS
You faggots are such a goddam eyesore. Worthless trash, you cannot even be called human
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Thinking about RDM for Phoenix. What's the best race for it?
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>>2887808
Tarutaru is objectively the best race for any mage.
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>>2887880
isn't elvaan better for soloing as rdm?
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>>2887404
scared about some colors lil bro?
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>>2887404
XI is a gay/trans friendly community just like XIV and every other Final Fantasy fan space. You are the one who doesn't belong.
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>>2888252
homophobia isnt a thing. no one is scared of you faggots, just disgusted
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what race for my DRG if I wanna push the soloer meme?
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>>2888293
you sound pretty scared desu
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>>2887808
anything not galka

>>2888477
anything not taru
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>>2888477
Would you rather eat my mom's unshowered pussy or lead an exp party?
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>>2888609
what?
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>>2888277
kipling hates trannies so hopefully you dont get bullied into a rope on phoenix!
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>>2888685
I dare you to openly talk shit about trannies in /yell when Phoenix drops then.
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>>2888714
>haha i dare you to intentionally get yourself banned on phoenix!
settle down ma'am! don't shoot up a school!
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>>2888757
Aww lil chuddie is scared. It's good you know your place though. Good pup.
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>>2888764
>pup
why are you faggots always into furry/animal nonsense as well? super fucked up bro
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>>2888277
>Virtue signaling
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>>2888609
Can't I do both?
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>>2888685
Proof?
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>>2888277
She does this all the time anon.
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>>2888685
>>2888968
>isreal
what the fuck kipling is based?
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>>2887404
he doesnt want anyone supporting windower and it still works better than ashita. this fag controls every server that pops up while funneling money to his own patreon from selling hacks. everything surrounding ffxi private servers is fucked.
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>>2889012
the best thing about Wings was they didnt force you to use faggot ass Ashita.
You want to use some 75 profile gearswap from retail 18 years ago? hell yeah brother.
Atom0s: noo you have to use these obscure ashitacast profiles some jeetcoded ai made
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>>2888277
Idk about this anymore. We are 77 in discord / horizon shell and we polled recently, 89% of our discord does "Not enjoy seeing anything to do with sexuality in the final fantasy, in game or discord" - I wouldn't call Final Fantasy a gay/trans friendly community, just somewhere where you may be likely to find a fellow sexual degenerate.
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>>2889012
Only the PS2 Revival can save us from this but that's if they have the sense to make a PS2 HW Only server AND a PSXC2 server
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After tomorrow is Phoenix launch baby, can't wait to start on a fresh server!
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>>2889215
No wait the launch is 24 September, sorry for the misinformation.
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>>2889132
XI is strictly a virtue signaling community
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What percentage of players on phoenix are gonna do THF from the start considering you cant even use regular bolts? THF was reduced to only using status bolts in era.
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>>2889370
ok so make blind/acid bolts, they aren't expensive.
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>>2889399

>"Arent that expensive"
>31 alch / 14 smith

You expect everyone to do this at the start? lol
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>>2889370
Standards for EXP parties in the first month don't exist, people are going to show up in full AF and accessories that are well under level. On Horizon at launch, you could have Paladins at level 50 without Flash yet, if you went out to Altepa you would see a bunch of paladins trying to solo Antica to get the drop instead of paying the 30k.

So what I'm saying here is, it doesn't matter if you show up as THF without any bolts. As long as you're willing to make parties then no one will care. It's the ultimate grace period to be a shitter, fuck I remember WHMs,RDMs, and even BRDs not having dispel so people couldn't level on crawlers. I saw groups fall apart as soon as they realized that cocoon was too strong without a dispel or BLM. There were RDMS at 41+ without Refresh too, it's a crazy time to level. I vaguely remember at least 1 WHM that was "too poor" to buy haste.

With that in mind, the conquest point gear matters A LOT the first month. You can trade gear with other players from other nations but the conquest point gear will be the bread and butter for some jobs. It was also a good way to make money selling items that were highly in demand.
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>>2888477
"push" is galka but you have to be ok with dogshit MP until you get ethereal earring. before then you have to swap to staff to use spirit taker or get refresh via juices

max HP is the game for DRG soloing, so Galka > Elvaan > hume/mithra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dogshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst possible drg (taru)

It's honestly amazing how bad taru is at DRG. Every stat DRG wants is minimized.
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>>2889667

Ok so let me expand on my first thought, basically THF cannot solo effectively without xbow, really anything that isn't like 20+ levels below them so farming is going to be so miserable it wont be worth it until either you get bolts to do actual damage, or 61 when u get dancing edge.

Meanwhile MNK and WAR both have really good damage and their weapons aren't too hard to get.

Mages usually relied upon fishing but theres a cap on that now, not sure if thats going to effect most people but it might (i have never fished before idk shit about it).

99% of the gil is from vendorables so THF traditionally is the 100% objectively best pick, but like i said that will slow down to a crawl if you cannot make status bolts.

Buying them isn't going to be an option because the second someone lists a stack they will be bought up by the 1000+ THFs looking for faster grinding.
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>>2889694

One thing i forgot to mention is the fact that if all these THFs are going to be level alch to make bolts its going to be that much harder to get a point where you can make bolt heads.
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>>2889694
Just level until you get dancing edge then, because the gear requirements are so low you don't need to farm much initially. Sell your conquest point gear and buy crafted weapons with that gil, you can resell them later anyway.
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>>2889753

>Get to 61 in the dunes, competing with the continous constantly flow of people whilst incurring a progressive EXP loss up to 50% when you hit around 45 or so.

That sounds like the kind of torture that would make the spanish inquisition blush.
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>>2889775
There's no reason to stick to the dunes. What I'm saying is what people did on Horizon. You level straight through like normal but with lesser gear. You use conquest point gear and then AF gear. It's not like Hauby or Scorpion Harness jobs can go farm those up at release, so you ignore them initially and pick them up later through KSNMs(ODS drops both) or camping Roc/Simmy/Serket with your LS.
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>>2889370
Aerec could say this in the announcement channel and niggers would still log in on Sundays. Because Muh population.
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>>2888981
Damn Kipling is cool af
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I'm a dev and I hate

drama whores
tarus
e-whores
israel
streamers
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>>2889948
>tarus
Beyond based.
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>>2889370
so if i level thief i can't use a ranged weapon with "normal" ammo, it HAS to be status ammo, in PhoenixXI?

I don't understand
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>>2889992
How does that affect you
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>>2890008
Bro, What?

I am asking if when we start on Phoenix XI what the situation will be, on other servers I can get a shitty xbow and some bolts and use /ra inbetween auto attacks (I only just learned this recently) but this post >>2889370 implies that THF will only be able to equip/use bolts that inflict a status?

I require explanation I've been here 6 months not fucking 20 years like the rest of you
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>>2890132
This is how it worked in era. Also why people have been saying players are going to seethe at true era accuracy lol

The plus side is bloody bolts are actually going to work properly
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THF getting fucked over a bit is a good thing. I'm preemptively mad about them camping coffers to sell Life Belts.



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