Adeptus Retardes Edition>14.1 hotfix patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/436-hotfix-14-1>Update 14.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/428-%E2%80%8Bpatch-notes-14-0>August Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/445-august-community-update>Updated Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/p9UAyjJ.jpeg >Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Workaround with matchmaking (defaults to waiting for players instead of looking for games)Queue for siege mode, leave the lobby and re-queue for operations.>Datasheet with hidden difficulty modifiers at each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Guide on PvE mode, explanations and tactics:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000:_Space_Marine_II/Tactics/Operations_Mode>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Link repositories (WIP):https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB - mission scripts Previously on the Battle-Barge: >>2851768
>>2913303Also "patch notes" for 14.2, for archival purposes since even Saber themselves didn't care enoughhttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/455-hotfix-14-2
This is the thread.
Now that's what I call a good fucking OP. Good job OP. Emperor provides!
>>2913303Fuck me these are some mad photoshop skills, most impressive and high quality.
I'm sick of waiting.
Threadly reminder that pic related are the amebas that probably join your matches.
spawned into this shit show
>>2913411>defending the vatniks
>>2913522You're a goddamn hero.
>>2913880>>2911077think about itit's a very logical conclusion to come to based on the lore we already have>orks become more and more intelligent the larger and stronger they become>therefore the krorks must have been viciously intelligent, massive, and brutally cunningthe Old Ones needed a tool to fight the necronsthey wouldn't have been equipping their army with random stupid junker bullshitthey would have been in full power armor, like every other technologically advanced race so the krorks would have>advanced high tech Old One weaponry>been fucking huge and intelligent>been adorned in full power armoralso because the Emperor is basically the closest than any creature has come to Old One status since the Old Ones died, it's kind of poetically perfect that they would have both come up with similarly equipped super soldiersbut the Krorks were better because they were impossible to get rid of and massiveSpace Marines can only get so big
>>2913939>orks become more and more intelligentNo they become larger and stronger, not necessarily more intelligent. Nobs aren't much stronger than regular orks, they're just tougher. It was implied that grots are the descendants of the Brain Boyz, while modern orks were the warrior caste of krork.
>>2913980nah no wayI know there was some lore about orkz getting smarter as they grow largertheres was a warboss that made it all the way to Terra or something and could speak High GothicI have NO source
>>2913983The Beast wasn't smart just because he was big, he was a freak.
>>2913983>>2914119Mek boyz are able to instinctually build and maintain more advanced technology as their group of orks grows in size and enthusiasm, regular orks similarly gain the instinctual ability to operate that technology, but they don't really get more intelligent.Orks will become more cunning the longer they live just as a consequence of experience, but greater intelligence besides being able to better outwit their opponents in tactics and sometimes strategy doesn't really follow.
>>2913939The Eldar dabbed on the Krorks so hard they became Orkz.
>>2914241I remember reading somewhere that the brain boyz, aka, either the krorks or the genetic caste capable of actual intellectual thought, modified their genome to let them instinctively do what orks do since they knew they were devolving as a species. The Old Ones made them but in the aftermath of the war in heaven it was the brain boyz that ran their species, and they're all extinct as we know it now. They're still hiding in the genetic memory of orks but like I said, only freaks are able to tap into that like The Beast.
>retards still posting in the sloppa thread
i dont like the stalker. the ammo variant is in a good spot for mag size and ammo recovery, but the attack speed variant feels really good for actual combat. it needs better perks like something for reload on execute. its like the dumpy little brother of the bolt sniper. if you want a more dynamic battle rifle kind of gun then the instigator or marksmen carbine have better ammo and perks.
>>2914982well its definitely more of a tac weapon than sniper weapon, needs more perks on sniper's side to really bring it out.
is this game a good choice if I'm tired of Dorktide
>>2915069At the moment I treat it as a dress up game, but I've sunk well over 800 hrs into it. The visuals are absolutely stunning (barring some textures clipping here and there this is one aspect that truly shines).There are quite a few operations/missions in PvE now that have you fight against nids and/or T'sons. There's a round based mode where you fight increasing waves of ungodly bullshit. There's also a PvP mode where for all of 10 players in the world that enjoy it, while 99% of players roll PvE.There's no monetization as such and DLCs aren't THAT egregious because they're limited to chapter-specific customization pieces. Everything else you get as part of updates.If you like soulslop parry/gunstrike mechanics that ultimately lead you to fighting shit with your melee (btw pretty satisfying animations there as well) I'd say it's a game for you. I got my money's worth, now I play every now and again to keep my senses sharp and when new content drops.
>>2914982>>2915037trying ammo variant more, it feels a lot better withthe accuracy team perk instead of cooldown on kill. im using 75% block break with it, it is kind of nice to lay down continuous fire. I find you do need to abuse infinite grenades more with it
>>2916035Do headshots through block count, like with the perks that let blocked hits do more damage? Like if you hit the head of a blocking warrior with the heroic bolt sniper do you get a round back?
>>2916221yes it does
>>2916221AFAIK, yes, but block pen perks are not worth it 99% of the time.
If you do the Hard Stratagem, does it also grant progress for the normal version?Same question for the weekly sieges.
>>2916592lol
>>2916596oh
>Rapid Health and Magazine Restoration are in seperate mutually exclusive rows for the Melta Rifleare these niggers fucking serious?it doesn't really matter since you get Decisive Reload, but still
>>2916919is this the true face of the changer of ways?
woah the perks available for the Multi Melta sound really cool>get 1 ammo back from executing Majoris or higher>extend your range by an extra 3m every time you execute a Majoris or higher>after a Majoris or higher with a melee attack (including finishers) you deal 25% more damage for 10sand none of those have a cooldown between activationsand then you can just get a 50% damage bonus on your stompwhich you can of course stack with the prestige perks that enhance your melee just a lot of incentive to always be getting stuck in and chaining executions on Majoris
how are you supposed to build this thing?
>>2917419Either have it build up heat really fast on one target or have it dump heat on everything around whatever you're targeting
>there is no way to change the cloth color on the DA hood on Snipermy day is ruined
>>2916919Who let Kreia into 40k
>>2917511Works the same as on any other class, stop being a retard.
I'm so sick of all these spore mines spawning in my face. Why does it take months to fix these bugs?
>>2918056Bugs ?
>>2917991Furtim est optio, Brother.
>>2918056Russian developers working on a game that falls under the umbrella of a British intellectual property. The fact that you're confused as to why the game doesn't work properly is more shocking than the fact that the game doesn't work properly
Got to wave 30, just wish my friend would stop bringing along literal window lickers
could balanced knife potentially out perform ardent edge? testing the knife, it seems there is literally no reason to ever use a light attack, and the attack speed of balanced does really benefit you since the heavy attacks have long animations
>>2918508it's interesting that you all took such similar amounts of damage, despite the differences in performance
>>2918539Argent edges "performance" doesn't really care much about raw melee damage.
>>2918539Why the fuck are you trying to hit things with a knife
>>2918539Did you honestly bring a knife to a heavy weaponry fight? A balanced one at that?
>>2918539If you care about the damage of your own melee attacks, you go block knife (or gladius, if you like meme setups). Ardent edge is the parry stick supreme, it doesn't need to do anything else.The trick to knife is to never use the final heavy attack and instead chain the two skullcrushers with a light attack in between, by the way. The final heavy has way too long of an animation and no aim assist so it's better to take the fast chaining instead.
>>2918539I've only ever found good use for Blood of Vossus on Sniper and even then it's on the near-permanent stealth carbine build. And it's *only* good there to cut through gaunt carpets. Argent Edge is way safer, Power Gladius works really well on double stealth dodge builds but the bigger issue is Balance parry necessitating a really good gunstrike stick to make it worth it because you really can't chain parries all that well and you don't get Argent's damaging parries. Any other classes have better options than the balance knife.
Why can't I rebing style change on a Power Sword to anything else. It being stuck on this same button as a generic attack is utterly retarded and makes this weapon unusable for me
In this context of the chainsword, what the fuck is a "heavy attack" ?the heroic chainsword says you can follow up the quick punch with an additional heavy attack, but you already can't follow up the quick punch with any other hold attacksdoes heavy just mean a hold attack instead of a tap attack?this shit is confusing and there isnt a full moveset breakdown anywhere that labels each move as light or heayv
>>2920746Hold attacks, yes.The punch/full throttle, the kick, the shoulder bash, the stomp. All those attacks.
>>2920754so does the double edged chainsword just give you two punches?
>>2920763No, it lets you continue a combo after a hold attack.I haven't messed with it in a while so I might be wrong with this example but you can basically go from a kick or punch into a stomp.
>>2920767It's so dumb that the entire thing is designed to NOT use the chainsword.
>>2920802The chainswords best attacks are the ones that don't use the sword itself even without the Double Edged relic.The main combo for both horde clear and single targets is spamming the shoulder bash because it has decent damage in an AOE around you.Even if you spec fully into light attacks on it, infinity looping into the shoulder bash is still more efficient. You can get away with it on wings of flame assault with the balanced chainsword, just barely though.
>>2921006I wish full throttle was like a hormagaunt jump that locks the target in an animation for heavy damage. It'd be the only damn thing that felt like using an actual chainsword.
>>2921038It really is funny to me that Full Throttle is only taken for the combo skip and the attack itself is complete and utter dogshit. Like. We're talking completely unable to match a single power rake at full charge bad.
>>2921123To be fair, I do use it against a neurothrope when it's down and it CAN chunk more than a combo without convenient Adrenaline Surge stacks.
>>2920802they need to make light attacks deal more damage for all weapons. heavy attacks should be for staggering and light attacks for damage. the only weapon where light attacks are good is the power axe.
>>2921766While I kind of agree, they more need to make lights better supported. Half the reason heavies are so good is due to quite a lot of perks supporting them. Assault, Bulwark, and Techmarine all have multiplicative perks for boosting charged attack damage, Chainsword and THammer have the only good melee CHP recovery perks in the game and they're both tied to heavies. The Salamander's Power Sword proves that light spam can be good and fun but all the light damage perks are hot garbage. Hell, even the Power Axe proves both points because its optimal single target combo swaps between a heavy and its perk boosted final light attack. The only other weapons I can think of that light spam even comes close to viable are on a couple knives and the White Scars and relic fencing Chainsword. And that's solely because of the speed alone.
>>2921956Idk.I've been using light attacks with the balanced cs on assault for a minute now, and it's not so bad.It's pretty synergistic with a wings of flame build.
ah yes, thank you saber for the renowned MSN Messengers' chapter's icon.
The Vanguard is getting Grav-chute cosmetics apparently.
>>2923381>suppressors get squated>vanguard gets gravchuteEven the blyatniks give us more than james whoreslop
>random console sniper>he's a raptor with a bunch of random blingy shit on >level 1yeah this is gonna be good
>>2924742he outdamaged you, didn't he
>>2924955yeah.. close enough
September's community update will have the Year 3 Roadmap AND reveal the upcoming class.Then we'll get Patch 15 shortly after.
>>2925581>Year 3 roadmapYawnMore meleeslopMore unnecessary class reworksMore Chaos ops that are very longMore Soulsloppa Extremis and Terminus enemies
>>2925581They already had everything locked in for the roadmap last week. How hard is it to make and release it separately and get people interested?They're taking their sweet time with everything (yeah I know they publish at the end of each month but still).
>>2925627If they didn't plan to release anything on anniversary month then I don't blame them for not officially announcing shit in the last week of August.
they changed the parameters for last week's weekly, will they change the upcoming one?
>>2925761I'm betting they will because it's evidently much easier to just swap conditions than fix a bugged one.
With their tendency to nerf shit around when are they going to start gimping equipment?
>>2925996who the fuck uses equipment. do you hate having good scores?
>>2925996They already did nerf the shit out of grenades not restoring from ammo cache. I guess vatniks must've tied nade launcher grenades with actual ones so they can't go back on it. >>2926017>he isn't using shock nadesdo you play chaos ops only brotha?
>>2926017>do you hate having good scores?The only stats I have interest in refer to felonies committed by specific minorities. Otherwise a completed op is a successful op.
>>2925581And when will that be?
>>2926066Mid April, 2024
>>2926066Two weeks. Trust the plan.
>>2926066Community updates always show up at the final week of the month.Patch 15 is in October and we're apparently getting a release date relative "soon". If not, then I'm sure we'll learn by the end of the month.
>>2926066Tomorrow they will reveal the reveal date of 15.0. And at the end of the month community update will reveal the rodamap that is going to reveal what they have in store. Later though it's gonna revealed they will have actually postponed 2/3rds of the roadmap content due to unforeseen circumstances.
>>2926141>Tomorrow they will reveal the reveal date of 15.0>anno imperatori mmxxvii>saber celebrates the reveal of the reveal date of a reveal date of release date of a fucking updatewhat a time to be alive
>>2926141Yeah, fool me year 1 and 2, shame on them. Fool me year 3 shame on me.
>>2926141>Later though it's gonna revealed they will have actually postponed 2/3rds of the roadmap content due to unforeseen circumstances.kek I can totally see this happening
>>2926170desu at this point i'm simply happy they are still working on the game. remember when they were planning to move on to space marine 3 a month after the release?
>>2926497>remember when they were planning to move on to space marine 3 a month after the release?Yeah, but you need to remember they were still very much in their shovelware assembly line mode. Since then I think focus might've reined them in a bit. Though it still feels like a skeleton crew is working on SM2. The game being such a driving force for that studio you'd think they'd churn out content and events like crazy. They had to have relegated a good bunch to work on SM3 for sure. Maybe tumbling to the Year 3 lap is their response to all the sales and interest the game generated for 40k (for better or worse is to be seen) instead of said content. Game dev in general is a colossus on clay legs if Embracer's bullshit is anything to go by, so yeah we should be happy they're working at all. I'd just want for them to put out polished content instead of just putting it out (with the exception of models/cosmetics, those dudes are ok).
>>2926745It's literally just Dmitry and any unpaid intern they can spare Every few months, actual devs from the SM3 gulag are briefly relegated to this glorified crew
>>2926814I'd imagine sm2 is just such an irreparable piece of shit fundamentally that they're saving their best foot forward for sm3. I bet sm3 will have more substantial/frequent post launch support than sm2.
Any tips for terminator sorcerers? The non-stop ass rape is hard to deal with, especially when there's a horde to further fuck you.
>>2927410he killed the game for me
>>2927410>Don't take gunstrikes from his melee combos and his after-images until you see him physically stagger back>Dodge a full second and a half after the red indicator pops up for his laser attack>Shoot those orbs down immediately when he casts them
>>2927255I love this picture.
>>2927410Stop playing, the current massive playerdrop will force the vatniks to nerf it bigly.
Lol they changed the weekly completely, it's Inferno now with exploding barrels and enemies.
Took 2 attempts.Twice did my team eat total shit in the promethium fields against a neuro spawn and twice did I have to run laps around the area to pick off warriors and shave off the respawn timers for my fucktarded teammates.
I refuse to believe there's 10000 players playing yet I cannot find a single game on Aus.
>>2928114I'm around if you want to run a few
>>2928139Dailies look good, lets do em.4K5DK - Aus server
>>2928162coming
>>2928109>just normal Inferno with exploding barrels and Majoris>2 attemptsThis game is dead
1:1 Exact same stratagem from julyOnly reason I remember is because a friend nuked himself by accidentally killing a lictor with a gunstrike in the one from july.
First time seeing a term sorc and not only could I not see shit, I'm getting perm staggered by lasers that aren't even targeting me from across the map.
I think we accidentally made a kid look up what "gimped" meant
>>2928317Idk if the chat's fucked again but I asked if you've done weekly, and if not, we can do it at a later date.
>>2928327>againThat "feature" has been broken forever now. They won't bother to fix it.
>>2928327I'm happy to do it later, haven't done either one yet.
>space marine 2 release date: 9th of september>the anniversary update drops 1st of octoberGood Job Saber
>>2928870is it another year already? all the best you all
>>2928317>anons giving kids a taste for Callidus Assassins
>>2928870Was expecting something like the 15th.They're still missing the actual anniversary to the point where they're aiming for the wrong month, but at least it's as early as you can get within that month.I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't really looking forward to chaos siege, lamenter armor, and the new heroics too. Even the tactical rework, even though I still think it's intensely stubborn and retarded that you're gonna need to restrict your loadout so much to get access to arguably weaker melee weapons than you can use right now.
>>2928930I'm extremely curious about how differently the loyalists will play as an enemy faction.They couldn't possibly just reskin rubrics as ultramarines.
>Community Update and Patch on the same weekThey DID say they wanted to get the CU out a bit earlier so that might come a week earlier.
>Dropping U15 on October 1stShan't be playing. What a horrible time to drop an update. This isn't the only big release in that window.
>>2928870Yeah and who could forget that spring that lasted nearly half a year (according to devs' whacked calendar).
>>2928870>tfw Dude Wall is getting updated for the anniversary while multimillion ruble company can't meet the deadlineoh I'm laffin'
>>2928870Vatniks can't be trusted
>>2928935The generic Smurfs will fight as those dumb ally bots in siege mode, except this time they dish out real damage.No Terminators, Extremis one will probably be Bulwarks and Heavy.Not sure if they'll add Phobosniggers like Vanguards and Snipers.
Dude for the Dude Wall
>>2929973>BT>doesn't read the guideHeh, checks out
>>2929973Brother, post a full screenshot from the preview menu.
>>2930040WELL I CAN'T READ>>2930083fixed. Wall, Black Templar
>>2928997There's SO MUCH good shit dropping at the same time. Its fucking crazy.
//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////>Three solar cycles of unbroken vigil.>Two Terran years have passed since the Adeptus Retardes first raised their banners in this system. The Thread endures. The records endure. The Emperor protects.Brothers, since this is the second anniversary of Space Marine 2, the Thread as well as the Dude Wall I took the liberty of preparing a small commemorative video to celebrate that event.Thank you Brothers.Signing off,Wall AnonGlory to the Imperium!>A version with sound for your consideration: https://streamable.com/h34rvp//// END TRANSMISSION ////
>>2930147Received.
>>2930198>my character made it to the videoThank you for your eternal service, Wall anon.
>>2930198>Anniversary time>Saber celebrates by giving us anniversary patch a fucking RELEASE DATE>Meanwhile Anon delivers wholesome actual contentBrother Wall Anon you truly are based. Thank you for service and all that work.
>>2930198Wallanon do what Saber don't.Happy anniversary, brothers.
>>2930373Guaranteed Year 3 and they still won't have Blood Ravens champion and skins DLC
Am I retarded? Why can't I see any other chapter brothers on the wall?
big green dudes in camelioline cloaks
How is saber going to save melta? Right answers only.>>2930719But what do the pouches hold?
>>2930981smaller pouches
>>2930198I see my Raptor dude there,what a great honor!
>>2930981>But what do the pouches hold?considering who drew this, most likely CP (command points)
>>2930147weird choice of colors for a black templar, more like a gray templarI would even say it looks more like a Charcarodon
>>2930147Brother if that's a BT then I'm Malcador the Sigillite (I'm not)
>>2930198One rarely sees so much quality on this basket weaving forum. You are a paragon to follow Brother Wall Anon.
I wish they didn't fuck up so bad with making the chapter specific bare heads. I know they won't be releasing anymore, yet I will still hold out hope for a fun manchu + ponytail White Scars.
>>2931384There's still going to be Raven Guard Skrillex and White Scars Bautista heads. Don't you worry Anon.
>>2930198>>2931215My Ultramarine is STANDING.
>>2930198sovl
>>2931329after checking its because im a dumbshit and didnt change the colors as I unlocked/bought them. I went in and changed them to the black that is available for each part.
>>2932019As a fellow Black Templars enjoyer I'd recommend that you update it. Primarily because my OCD is gonna go haywire seeing wrong colors in BTs gallery (yes I do look at it from time to time).
>>2932019the fact that you took 2 different screenshots and did not notice baffles me to no end
>>2930147Hmm, are you color blind Brother?
>>2932781dunno maybe, the shades were not different enough for me to notice right away. I never focused on it in the past.
Honoured Wall Anon, I have a few sons of Dorn to submit, starting with an Imperial Fist Sternguard.
>>2933755BT Crusader
>>2933759Hospitaller
>>2933764>>2933759>>2933755ummmmm... where's the Crimson Fists????
>>2933834I don't rep em
>>2933755>>2933759>>2933764Received. Your Dudes will be added to the Imperial records.
Why does the Sorc term have like 3x the HP of a Helbrute? It's like they wanted something hard for substantial, the difficult they play on, then forgot about absolute's scaling.
this >>2933759 is a BLACK Templar and this >>2930147 is Whatever shade of grey Templar anon tried to pull offmost confounding
>>2934439nigger uses too much detergent ONCE and the whole world lose their mind
>>2934446>the whole world lose their mindWell it IS a 40k adjacent thread after all. Autism comes with the territory.
>>2934439have they ever explained why they put so much eyeliner on the models?
>>2934540All of them start as templates for Emperor's Children, but they can't include traitor legions in PvE so we're left with battle eyeliners.
>>2934729Chaos siege is coming, so now they have an opening
>>2934733I guess it will appeal to chaosfags for sure, which is fine by me 100%. The more content like that the better.But with siege being so barebones mechanic- and gameplay-wise (even with blessing/curse system in place) I sadly think it will suffer same fate as loyalist siege - disproportionate reward pool for the time invested in the mode.
>>2934748I hope they open up the requirements to unlocking the Chaos drip. 9 kills in 9 matches is a tall ask when the pvp is limping along and also I'm bad at it.
>>2934540>have they ever explained why they put so much eyeliner on the models?Every Space Marine has to take care of how they look.The Emperor created perfection and thus it is an Astartes' job to remain perfect.
>>2936024>9 kills in 9 matches>not *eight* kills in *eight* matches
>>2936024There is something weird going on with it, because it counts progress for me, even if I don't get 9 kills. It has to count assists too in some way
>>2934446You gotta pick your laundry detergents wisely Brother. A true son of the God Emperor knows this.
when you're listening to carameldansen you can't hear raveners grab attack sound cue
using plasma weapons for the first time while maxing out everything on Tacticalcorrect me if Im wrong, but it seems like the most optimal way to use these weapons (on tactical at least) is>pop off some charged shots to get up to 30% heat>start tap firing common shots and keeping your heat between 30% and 100%
>>2936969I just spam charge shots because I can stagger majoris enemies until overheat
Is there a way to make the black diamond disappear or blend better with a certain color? I can't seem to find a black that matches and this triggers me immensely.
>>2937839It's literally the first option
>>2937839Disregard I am retarded, you can literally just remove the color option of that part of the marking.
>>2937856nta and kinda on topic - I really don't like the fact that a number of decals is misaligned or hidden behind an ornament (I'm looking at you tactical prestige pauldron).
>>2937856Thank you brother, I figured it out 30 seconds after posting. I remembered doing it on another heraldry and should of spent a bit more time waking up instead of rushing to /sm2/ to make myself look retarded.
So after completing the hard weekly strat I realized I am really shit at dealing with chip damage from the gaunts and such. Should I just be running around like crazy when I am surrounded by those little guys or stick to bigger shit for executes? For the weekly I found myself spamming leap attacks to gun strike them and keep my armor up but it felt tedious.
>>2938321if you have a parry weapon you need to remember to be parrying some of the minoris to maintain your armor
>>2913303//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////>Imperial Administratum has granted access to records of all Astartes operating in Decidious System, CODENAME: ADEPTUS RETARDES>Dude Wall status: ACTIVE. >All Astartes present in Decidious System accounted for.>All First Founding Chapters accounted for.>The Great Migration is complete. The Thread has withdrawn from the crumbling halls of the former sector and raised its banners upon new, untainted bedrock. The Emperor's work proceeds apace.Good day, Brothers! A new day is upon us and I am proud to present you with an updated to the Dude Wall alongside news related to anniversary update:- Both versions of the Wall have been updated with latest submissions:-- Imperial Fists #13,-- Black Templars: Dudes #21 (Brother Detergentius) and #22,-- Hospitallers #2.- Website: There are currently 95 named Dudes up on the Wall. Up until now 17 have been updated with a new cogitator name display "banner" as per 2-year anniversary update. Today's changes include the following chapters/successors: Space Wolves, Wolfspear, Imperial Fists and Black Templars. Rest assured, more are on their way.-- Black Templar's heraldry has been updated.I'm also glad that short anniversary clip was to your liking, Brothers. I've got to admit, it was a bit improvised but if and when time allows it, I'll prepare something grander. In the meantime, thank you for all submissions and should you have more /YourDudes/ to post or update, please do so.I hope you will enjoy the latest update, Brothers.Signing off,Wall Anon=FYI=>**The latest Ultra-high quality version of the Dude Wall available on the website**>**For more comprehensive info on submissions please refer to: https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/ **Glory to the Imperium!//// END TRANSMISSION ////
>>29383936th Company Salamander reporting for the Wall.
>>2938393Venerable Walldude, my White Scar for the dudewall.
>>2938436>>2938846Received.
fuck yeah
>>2938393I'm also requesting to add Brother Aspergus, the Phantom Link's resident techmarine. I posted a rough version of him ages ago but never formally requested him to be added to the wall.
>>2940944great work brother, very tasteful, Furtim Est Optio
>>2940944Received, Brother. Furtim Est Optio.
>btw we are going to make a space marine 2 clone in 4 years, we're still relevant!
>>2941284And in 4 years I will play the Space Marine 2 clone.
>>2941294good for you. my mate was recently recommending remnant 2 to me and I realized I don't really care if the gameplay or lore is better or not, i just want to kill shit in 40k universe.
>>2941340The only thing Remnant 2 ever did was remind me of how much I prefer Remnant 1 to it
>>2941284Hell yeah they will
>>2941340I do.Space marine 3 better play like crazy after like 6 years of post sm2 development, plus using sm2 as a test bed and the community like an army of testers that whole time.You should be able to actually sprint, not jog. Sprinting at top speed should turn you into a battering ram. And sprinting should be fast enough to use like a dodge. We should be able to run and gun too, or at least gunstrike on command to break your momentum from sprinting.Grenade button should be a D pad button. O or current grenade button should be a grab ala god of war 1-3. If you parry with the grab, it turns minoris into frag grenades, and deals better damage than intimidating aura if you parry majoris+. It's got a smaller parry window than a regular parry though.If you grab a minoris without parrying, it just one shots the minoris. If you grab a majoris+ without parrying, it pushes them back/staggers them.Melee weapons should get more than one type of attack button. Every melee weapon should have multiple pause combos, dial up combos, launchers, aerial attacks, etc.Weapon variants aside from heroics are gone. Every melee weapon is balanced by default, except the parry has starting frames like fencing, but a smaller window like block. Weapon perk trees are expanded and less restrictive in how you build them. Melee weapon perk trees come with mutually exclusive perks that turn them into fencing or block weapons. Fencing has double the parry windows and a gunstrike bonus, but half as much melee damage.There's perks that directly affect damage, speed, and cleave now.1/2
>>29414722/2Gunplay should have proper feedback. If I shoot majoris+ knees, they should kneel/stagger. If I shoot their arms, they should have trouble aiming/shooting. If I shoot either limb type enough, it should disable that limb type, causing them to crawl or run around with little to no fighting capability but an itchy reinforcement calling trigger or something. Maybe armless majoris+ nids bleed area denying acid pools so they aren't out of the fight.No shit like auspex holding back weapons from performing well normally. No more nerf guns and pool noodles.No more classes. You get one anymarine that can equip everything under the sun (within reason). You can be a meleeless jump pack user that uses their jump pack to create better sniping/fire support positions.Or you can be a gravis armor/iron halo user that fights with a terranic greatsword and goes all in on melee like heavies in sm2 go all in on range.
>>2941476>all that gunplay stuffI would settle for just dealing 4x as much damage as we do currentlyit feels like we're using regular IG autoguns, not bolters
>>2941567The key to really good combat systems is enemy manipulation though. That's why games like devil may cry have so many moves. For the most part, they each manipulate enemies in different ways, or manipulate you in relation to enemies in ways that indirectly manipulate or lead to manipulating said enemies.Juicing damage numbers is only gonna do so much. SM2 does have a damage sponge problem, but SM3 should be justifying its existence as a separate yet implicitly iterative game by adding depth to returning mechanics imo.
>>2941665Just to add, giving ranged weapons unique staggering mechanics like that would give them stronger synergy with melee weapons. Yes, you can already stagger with plasma and melta guns, but imagine if you could do the same thing with stuff like bolters, las guns, and volkites but be rewarded for their extra precision requirements with a layer deeper enemy manipulation than mere staggering.Alternative non-headshot weakpoints are the next big step in evolving space marine's combat in general imo. Even moreso than the tappable potential strictly the melee or movement sides of the gameplay possess currently.
I think something like the peeling system from the dead space remake would be ideal. Where you chip away the armored layers of enemies before you do actual devastating damage through attacking the underlayers.Melee could use a buff similar to how it works in pvp. They could add an armor system that decays like said peeling system, and allow melee to either do far more peeling damage than ranged, or bypass any intact armor layer entirely.
fuck damage sponge complainingBolters already shred low tier enemies. Tyranid Warriors and up are more elite than Marines anyway. They are fine. Powercreep is not. Darktide is garbage because everything dies instantly now
>>2941788Is this why they doubled Crusher health?
does this mean I was kicked? it happened in the middle of a wavewhats the point of forcing us to be P2P if we can still get fucked by shitty servers
>>2941800Man, in Vermintide when I saw chaos warriors I would get excited to fight them. Crushers are just an annoying chore.
>>2942006>forcing us to be P2P who's going to tell him
>>2941472>>2941476Space Marine 3 will be meleeslop because its what the vatniks WANT.By 2029-2030 we will all be playing Helldivers 3 and Starcraft Dominion because their guns will work the best while Space Marine 3 will crater because of the vatniks' insistence of turning Space Marine into a Soulsloppa game.
What's the point of a shooter without mobility?
>>2942054>>2942006fuck forgot image
>>2942144no, when you are kicked from a squad the screen directly says so.
i fucking hate this janky crap
I dont know what it is, but Im having a horrible time with the hard version of this week's stratnone of the difficulty is from the modifiers, if anything it's making it easierbut holy shit the game feels like it's spawning 4x as many ranged majoris as normal and every boss is a neuro and every extremis is a zoanwhat the hell is happeningthis is what I get for not having leveled sniper already and unlocked the HBS
>>2942651uuuhmarksman carbine vanguarddouble heroic plasma heavyshield spam bulwarkmeta tac or techfusil is still good too
>>2942651Play sniper with Las Fusil or heroic BSRTake the Inferno pistol for nidder clean upPop heads from afarAny thrope dies in secondsYou're only fucked if you spawn a Carnifex
>>2942651I noticed the same thing. This is purely anecdotal but this did not feel like regular hard stratagem to me, even accounting for the modifiers. On top of what seemed like an unnatural number of majoris, we got three terminus and like thirty extremis. I've never seen numbers like that before on Inferno, and none of the modifiers have anything to do with it (at least not in their description).
>>2942797>>2942775thanks for the helpwas able to eek out a victory
>>2941472>>2941476Have you never played one of these games before? The sequels ALWAYS suck shit and are missing every good change from the past game. They usually have 1/100th the content too and spend the first several years playing catch up to base game features from the previous entry. If they don't die on launch that is.
IDK I think bolters are mostly fine now.
>>2943546I wish decap had a forced terminus spawn during the bridge defense. Its such a boring mission.
>>2943608Occulus and Instigators are outliers but I dont think that simple buffs would fix the real issue. They need a new mechanic or something.
>>2943546bolters arent badbut the problem is they do not feel like boltersa tyrranid warrior is tanky, but not so tanky that they can just EAT 30+ rounds of 75 caliber explosive gyro-jet ammunition and still be able to movethe game should be rebalanced around MUCH deadlier bolters with a far more limited ammo pool
>>2943710only if they triple the enemy count.
>>2943716I'LL TAKE IT
>>2943717Pleasure doing business. I think we both got what we wanted.
>>2943723wait, guys.. the game still sucks
Are there any other weapons besides the las fusil that can reach the bio titan
>>2944091I got a weapon in my ceramite that I reckon could reach it
>we will never have Imperial Guard: Cadia
>>2944372I don't trust blizzard these days, they are shadows of their former selves, but I wish there was a 40k equivalent of Planetside. The potential for great battles...
any heavy mains around? trying to decide between chains of duty and accuracy heroic. any ideas? I think I prefer the more range but the instant spoolup feels so nice.
I don't get why chaos teleport spawns have to deal damage. There's just way too much bullshit in this game.
2 Chaos terms, fuckload of Chaos spawns and Terminators that spawn for a map away spamming missiles at you on Fall of Atreus. Miserable experience.
>>2944517I only use heroic heavy plasma
>>2944647You really HAVE to get clear of that vertical section at the start of Fall of Atreus, lest you have to fucking backtrack all the way up an incline to get to a ranged Terminator spawn, it's horrendous.
>>2944517damage variant, then maybe cooling variant if you like to shoot while majoris are hitting you. chains of duty has heating problems to be usable. accuracy variant doesnt really provide anything if you learn to let off the trigger every 2 seconds to let the accuracy reset, although heavy bolter is the one weapon that is fun laying into the trigger
lol got kicked for the first time for unsportsmanlike behaviour today.
>>2944517accuracy variant is best, letting you actually have some effective range with it
>>2944517Accuracy always, the heroic is trash.Balanced only sucks if you're at 100+ ping and/or with the modifier that fucks up melee timings, otherwise its no different from learning Fencing or Block's timings.
fuck you nigger
3 stims and a relic and still couldnt do more melee damage than a vanguard
>>2946553what weapon did he have?also were you using a block weapon (the correct weapon type) ?
Vanguard is quite enjoyable these days.
>>2946610Vanguard with block power axe FUCKS
>>2946610>the class with the best healing team perk in the game>30% damage bonus at all times if you don't reload your secondary (very easy with melta pistol, which also has a the same perk available to stack the effect)>24/7 hyperarmor if you're blocking often (which you are)>Conviction just making you 25% tankier every time you get your armor broken, which effectively translates to +25% HP>Tactical Prowess + Zone of Impactlet's not pretend that Vanguard is bad or anythinghis rework is supposed to add more viable options>>2946645block power axe fucks, periodbut yeah it definitely fucks the hardest on vanguard>casually shitting out ~200 damage in a pretty large AoE every couple secondspretty nastyfor comparisona fully charged shadow stab from a knife deals roughly the same amount before you stack buffs, while being faaaaar more situational and unwieldy
wait I feel like Im having a matrix momentI thought vanguard got back 50% more cHP from meleedoes this description just mean that?
>>2946713I kind of remember it being worded differently but it could be just matilda effect.>pic rel>have to be logged in to see older versions of an articleI guess we'll never know. fandom is a fucking menace.
you guys DO leave after getting down once, don't you?
>>2948427Nah, instead I keep dying especially in the 2nd half of the map
Wtf are these bozos on about now? Did somebody called the ex-redhead CM a cunt or something?
>>2948764They posted something similar on their trannycord though that one mentions some legal actions in french justice system.
>>2948791kek, that's what you get for hiring a womanAlso: September Community update on 24th.
>>2931215Where's that chest and knife pauldron from?
>>2948836Raptors Chapter Pack
>>2948764>>2948791what is this faggot shit?>the male pregnant emoji being the most used reactionlmao
this place is so deadsasuga saber
>>2945770>>2946127What perk setup do you use for accuracy?
>>2950105It's because there's nothing to talk about since they didn't plan on supporting the game at all past launch and phone in every update
>>2950171What i use, green squares are viable (or sometimes preferred, i like having melee damage to clear gaunts quick) alternatives
Say hello to the easiest "hard" stratagem ever.Looks like Saber cucked out in the meantime.
>>2950175Honestly I don't think it's going to be much different with SM3, despite their lofty claims.
>>2949763It's a cesspool, but unfortunately one with the latest info if you know how to navigate it. What you're seeing in that pic related is a prime example of sycophants trying to butter up to faggot CMs just for the sake of it. Not even 40k settings is this grim.
>>2950346what are the hidden modifiers?
>>2949763>male pregnant emojiwhat does it even mean?
>>2950605Your keybinds switch to different keys throughout the operation.
>>2950346saber will do anything to make people play chaos
>>2950646Playerbase is dead and they still double down on Chaos>but we just gave you normal Absolute Inferno last week :3
>>2950777>>2950646Will they fuck up chaos siege by still having thousand sons in the enemy rotation?
>>2950821of course they will, it's free* content. pray they don't exclude nids because of some bullshit technical constraint like you can't have more than two enemy factions during a single siege.
fun fun fun
>>2950346can you kill a terminator sorc by continuously @ing him?
I have tropical skittles.
>>2952239loadout, brother?
>>2952256heroic hbrheroic plasma pistolbalance omni axe
>pointing does damageNo one points at targets>handshake heals everythingNo one does handshakes>screaming For Da Emprah increases damageNo one screams For Da EmprahEasiest weekly of all time and people are still eating shit.
>>2952307I mean, that's just regular absolute with massive waves. You should be able to beat it without all these cheats.
>>2950212FYI the weapon perk for stagger immunity works differently than the class perk for stagger immunity. with the class perk heavy attacks just stagger you, but with the weapon perk you get knocked down. also the 15% damage when iron halo is on cooldown perk is active while iron halo is up, they must have coded it to turn on when your ability charge != 100%
>>2952633
>>2950607look at the discord imagethere is a "male" and "nonbinary" version of the pregnant woman emojiof course only like 0.5% of the population looks at that emoji as anything other than a jokethey're spamming it there as a way to say "faggot"
>>2952740so it's like a clown emoji, except if someone gets angry you uno reverse card them by claiming you are a mental illness supporter and they are the biggot?
Weeklies are so dead no one even bothers spoiling the next batch of weeklies anymoreSaber is dogshit
>>2952942basically yeah
>>2952985cool thanks, i feel 20 years younger now.
>just tried out bulwark for the first time in the battle sim>trying to use a block weapon>it keeps making me enter block stance instead of actually blocking / parryingoh I hate this
>>2952636Gain more HP after getting hit, wtf?>>2953408Need to just tap the parry button, rather than hold it. It is weird at first.
I PUSH MY FINGERS IN TO MY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS
So there's a possibility we might not get to see our operations Dudes in SM3. Shame, I would've like to see Straban and Quartus at least.
>>2953784grigorenko is not canon. it's not for him to fucking decide, GW kills off and ressurects named characters as they see fit.
>trying to do the hard strat>keep loading into people in the battle barge>stare at a blank screen for two minutes as it tries to load me into their instance>spits me back out into my own instance aloneTrying to play this game again was a mistake. Fucking vodkaniggers.
>hooded Mk7 and Mk6 helmets are getting addedI am pleased.
>>2953784They show up in the campaign quite often in the bay before you go off on a mission, they're just in the default scheme you get when you're P0L1
>>2953930is it perhaps a return of the australian battlebarge bug? have you tried walking forward? or do you get kicked out straight out of the loading screen?
>>2953784I would vastly prefer if operations were instead fluffed to be Deathwatch killteams.
What am I in for running with this crayon box?
>>2954364Either the literal best player to ever grace the game or the worst feeder
I think Bulwark animation cancel crutch ruined me, I can't play anything else now
>>2954806Dash cancel with the Assault with the 3rd signature perk.
>>2954624It was relatively uneventful, he did use his ground pound on packs of like 2 gaunts which was funny, but he never went down.
>>2954813Oh, and the refund on jump pack empowered dash attack.
>>2950821They worded it like Tsons weren't gonna make the cut in the last cummunity buttdate. And also like loyalists were gonna be an actual faction that'll take their place in the wave rotation.I expect loyalists to be absolutely filled with animation reuse from sons and nids.>>2954831Your perks after team perks should look like this if you're gonna JP dash. Bare minimum.
>>2955046>>2954831Preferably this probably for the whole tree.
>>2955069I know people are requesting Vanguard and rightfully the Heavy perks to be reworked a bit.But I need them to change up the Assault's first 2 signature perks, they're so fucking uninteresting.
it's true. it's all true.>first massive wave, the other guy manages to die twice>turn to the third guy, we are both damaged, offer an handshake>he runs past me, eventually stops and returns to me and accepts healing>the second guy comes back from the dead>the door before the sorcerer>i'm at full health, they are both at 50%>neither of them turns to another to offer a handshake>I don't have time to do this myself because they already opened the fucking door and are running intabletop experience simulator
I love Siege mode bros, if it had more varied maps it would be one of the best horde games ever made.>Chaos siege still two weeks awayThe new map is all I care about.
>>2956689I would love it more if it did not force CHAOS on me.
What are the next heroics going to be?
>trying weekly strat>normal was a cakewalk, even more so than usual>oh man this is great, the hard should be easy too>first attempt, which lasts like 20 minutes ends with a wipe to a terminator sorcerer in the middle of a wave that has 30+ chaos spawn>second attempt is 30 minutes and also is a wipe to a terminator sorcerer during a wave>third attempt is a wipe to four (4) soulreaper terminators during a wavefuck this factionfuck this shitty elden ring slop bossfuck this long ass missionfuck this gameIm going to bed
>>2957572Just post codes
I wish melee didn't have such dogshit CHP recovery. These retarded devs identified this issue but never addresses it.
>>2958011I will never get over how they copied a mechanic from a game that is supposed to encourage aggression and implemented it in such a way that incentivises you to retreat and plink at the enemy with your gun.
>>2958011>devs are completely anal about balance and love to overdesign enemies>they only play on normal difficultyMany such cases.
>>2957428With the melta changes coming maybe a heroic multi-melta. Not sure what it would look like. Maybe a charge up mechanic that burns or adds range.
>>2958662On second thought, it would be nice to have a gun with a parry mechanic. Give the heroic multi melta lower average stats, but fencing parry and a unique gunstrike that uses the multimelta for the strike itself and 25% increased gunstrike damage.
>>2930198>My literally-who-tier (official) chapter Dude made it inYippee
>assault bolter has been in the files since year 1>they give us the dogshit one handed carbine instead>storm bolter nowhere to be seenWhat is wrong with this slavs?
>>2959215>>storm bolter nowhere to be seenJust like on the models then (not counting terminators)That's also possibly why assault bolter hasn't been made a thing, no inceptor class (also would be wack to have a sidearm with heavy bolter tier performance)
>>2953989I was getting kicked straight out to the battle barge on my own, but it worked eventually. Got into a match and even managed to clutch up during a Helbrute encounter on the halted elevator (thank God it wasn't a Terminator Sorcerer because I don't know how to fight them yet). This game is like riding a bike.
>>2958575Arrowhead ? Is that you ?
the way to balance this thing is so obvious>it's already restricted to classes that can't equip a primary>just make it perform almost like a primary carbine, but give it worst-in-slot gunstrike damagetherethat's all you have to dowhile you're at it, rework the entire perk treeand maybe even give it Reloaded Restoration
I feel like I'm losing my mindis this AI slop?or does the artist just not know what they're drawing?>lunar wolves, meaning not just pre-Heresy 16th legion, but the 16th legion from the early days of the great crusade>they're depicted as primaris marinesis there something I don't know about the lore?those are primaris helmets right???
>>2961724same as depicting arthurian knights as being in plate armor
>>2961724MkX helmets are like a squished-in MkIV, but the belts resemble those of other marks. Those guys are looking awfully lanky, though.
>>2961724Yeah, that's an ai image. There's a couple of tells but I gotta admit it gets harder and harder to spot them.
>>2962042is it really though? What makes you think so? Not trolling, I have a vague memory of a pic zoomed in on one of those guys faces.
>>2961724>>2962042You guys need to learn that artists can make mistake and dogshit too. Everything that isn't perfect isn't AI. Also art is subjective.This isn't AI. A quick reverse search would tell you as much, this is from 2019.
guys lookit's Venom Snake
>>2961724The proportions are wack but even through that I can tell this armour is MKIV and not MKXLoads of details to inform that
>>2962649I didnt realize mk IV and mk X helmets looked so similar
>>2962654Mk IV is like it mk X didn't look bad. Mk X looks like they're in football gear.
>>2962649does it matter? wasn't it invented by GW for the 30k model line after the primaris anyway?
>>2962654It used to look like a beak or a very narrow and angular mouthpiece but it got reinterpreted into something a little more generic over time.
>>2962693seriously, why aren't they fully armoured? why did they do the Halo 4 thing?
>>2962802Because they are more realistic and designed to be functional. It's impossible to move in crude depictions of older armor marks where thick, solid armor plates would make it impossible to bend legs and more. Same reason why games with higher graphical fidelity which had to animate them altered their proportions and unarmored them a bit. Else terrible clipping would be unavoidable. SM1 and DoW3 being the most obvious exampleBoots and kneepads still don't make sense. Boots looks like they are soft while depicted as solid chunk of metal, while kneepads randomly switch between being solid and tied to a leg or being able to move separately.
>>2962733Brother, 30k came out way before primaris. And while the horus heresy stuff helped solidify MKIV into one design rather than the vague unknown that it used to be, even the old Armour Through The Ages kit had an example of what MKIV armour looked like back then and the Deathwatch RPG had rules for it.
>>2962876>Because they are more realistic and designed to be functionalNo, a suit of armor that doesn't protect most of a wearer's torso(that's where your vital organs are btw) is unrealistic and nonfunctional as armor.Shaving off a bunch of armor because you can't figure out how to make it not clip is just lazy, unfaithful to the original depiction, and aesthetically inferior.
>>2963051Real armor like this looks far closer to what Eldar wear. Marines wear very thick, solid, crude chunks of metal as their armor. Yes, you cannot animate them without redesigning them. If you try they will be clipping and jumping cartoony
>>2963087And they still clip on a regular basis, so what did they achieve besides making them look worse?
Assault is the worst class in the game.
>>2964973everything just falls apart when you dodge an attack with your ability and the game just doesnt register it, so you lose that ability charge for nothing
>>2964973>look mom I posted another run where my teammates joined for the last 5 minutes, so my numbers are waaaaay bigger than theirs
>>2964985He is still so buggy but so is the rest of the game. Maybe if they didn't have 7 other live service games that sold less than 100k units they could fix it.
>>2964985so just never dash with it, only ground pound
is kraken pen rounds still bugged with plasma or nah
>>2964988>gets incapacitated in the last five minutes of a mission
>>2965261It has been fixed.
>>2965071>just play Assault like Super Mario>instead of like Vergil from devil may cry
Tips for playing tactical? I get through the matches alright but my ending score is always lackluster. Maybe I'm just looking at it wrong and the class' place is solely as support.
>>2965877Auspex is broken and is 99% of what makes Tactical so broken grab auspex parry and you win, but the weapons are all over the place>BoltersHeadshots are non-negotiable, in the "If you can't get them reliably, uninstall the game" sense>MeltaDeletes minoris but doesn't do anything of value against anything else>Plasma Charge shots for Majoris+, uncharged shots for minoris>PyreLiterally just hold down lmb
>>2965877heroic pp and bug abuse
What perks do I go for this?
>>2965777playing it like Vergil is definitely optimalbut this game is a shitty jank fest that breaks core mechanics every other patch
>>2965877take these at all times, always once they are available>hyperarmor on parry>auspex on parry>get back 50% cooldown on parrying extremis or terminus>concentrated fire>secure stockpile so your team can throw more grenades>>2965905>metlaI would say it's good for when theres like 10+ majoris on youbecause being able to deal damage to ALL of them repeatedly is a boonit's definitely an underwhelming weapon in need of a buff or minor rework
I'd really like to see a mission where the task-force invades a hive ship, with the objective being to destroy key organs in order to cripple it.
>>2966031pic related is pretty goodI think it gets more mileage during any given mission in comparison to the one that applies a damage debuff, but that's just my opinionthe extra damage while having armor is better if you are maintaining armor I guessup to youthere is some tech with Full Throttle where you can use it to skip straight to light combo 2, making it possible to pull off a stomp while Adrenline Surge is still active https://youtu.be/7YcvgDLW1lwhttps://youtu.be/qyGbMJfCNTIhttps://youtube.com/shorts/Wa2PD11sGl0other than that you've pretty much got it+50% stomp radius is essentialdouble stomp is essentialpersonally I would rather have +20% damage against minoris and +15% damage against extremis here is a guy using the WSCS to 1-combo a terminatorhttps://youtube.com/shorts/PiJlHVhZdAs
>>2965777>Vergil from devil may cryah yes, just like devil may cry where my trick dodge and whiff punish take 4+ seconds to complete wow such combat flow
>can't equip this gauntlet on my DA knight because the elbow piece just floats away from the bodyfuck
>>2966133Yes. This is true.However...
>>2966496Smol vatnik company, spasiba understand tovarsich. Ve dont hav' zee vorkforce.
>>2966489>thinking I don't know that Saber isn't reaching peak Capcom qualityObviously it's not a 1:1 comparison, you autistic nigger.
YSDCW
*7SDCW
>>2966133>every other patchdo they even fix bugs anymore? I don't remember the last time the whip warrior combo hurtbox worked while on different elevations
NNTHH
That was some mad fucking bullshit at the last drop pod.
Died to fucking ping once each map. Wanted to go bulwark but that wasn't happening
I just encountered a sniper that was trying to "speedrun">told me and the techmarine that we were too slow>runs ahead and leaves us to fight everything, and dumps the aggro with cloak so that he can keep running>is sure to grab every stim and relic he can, even though he's a prestige 4 sniper with the most readily accessible invulnerability in the game (plus running Purification)>Heroic Bolt Sniper>name is Max Efficiencyit's just perfect
>>2967528link his steam page
release me
>>2967571glad you stopped playing a sniper
>>2967539too lateand I cant find him in steam search
>>2967658if you really wanted to you could try recently played with in game's invite menu, but I'm just putting my two cents to proverbial paper
>>2967680fuckcrossplay is disabled so cant open it (even if everyone is on PC)oh well
>>2967539I just did a random search on steam and came across this guy:https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198109353101No clue if it's actually him, I'm just passing through and thought I'd help out.
When do we get new shit
Its like playing inverse Vanguard.>>2967859"Early October"Community update is on the 24th.
>>2967859Supposedly some time in October
why the hell doesn't Techmarine get the Iron Hands pauldron that allows you to show decals?for what purpose? they're basically the same armor piece
>>29678591st week of October
>>2966684its not 1:10 you cunt assault plays literally nothing like any character action protag except maybe donte and that's not a compliment
>>2967859>>2967864>>2967870>>2968037On the anniversary they confirmed update 15 would come out on october 1st. So literally less than two weeks away now.Stay strong, brothers.
>load up sm2 after not having played in a few months>get fucked three times by ramp parry bug>last one opens me up to a neuro wave and kills me on the finale>exit game and uninstall
>>2968289It's not even a new mission yet sadly. I'll play some Absolutes to get that 1H Thunder Hammer to Relic (while getting EXP with the Heroic Variant) and then just go back to doing the weeklies. Don't much care for the Space Wolves aesthetic to even begin to think I want the champ pack too.
>>2968289I'm almost excited.
>>2968289Maybe this update wont be shit.
>>2968318Conversely, I do want to mess around with the new Ogryn weapons and the reworked trees for the base four classes.Took them 2 fucking years for a new mission though.
>>2968172Except he does though.>JP dash can phase through attacks>reposition >and animation cancel like Vergil's trick teleport>Vergil's defining ability aside from summon swords and judgment cut>nothing at all like Vergil somehow stillMotherfucker, I eat, breathe, and shit DMC. I am DMC. I don't compare things to DMC lightly, you petulant shit eating pissaholic.
>>2968373>>JP dash can phase through attacks>>reposition in the slowiest, clunkiest method possibly devised in an action game while also having literally none of the offensive tools or combos of any DMC character because its a god of war mash square game>defining abilitylmao fuck noEven ignoring spiral swords and judgment cut fucking helm breaker, round trip, and starfall are all more memorable than his fuckin teleport.I don't give a shit you diarrhea chugging heretic nobody in this game is anything remotely resembling a DMC style
>>2968389>in addition to Assault's JP dash functioning nearly 1:1 like trick, it also doubles as a stinger>ground pounds are also essentially starfalls.>non heroic power fist is basically beowulf lite>thinks goofy ass round trip is more memorable than tricklmao
>>2968533>>ground pounds are also essentially starfalls.no the fuck they are not>>non heroic power fist is basically beowulf liteexcept ass in every single way and basically unusable while also not having other weapons>round trip is more memorable than trickyes both as an enemy boss and as a combo tool round trip is far more defining to vergil than a teleport that dante also effectively has
>buy gaem>play snypuh>just want to sit back and pop heads>prestige perks are basically forced cqc
>>2967528Had a Sniper that did this recently just as a Neurothrope spawned. Ignored it, ran ahead and got killed by a Ravener.
Had to swap to the HBR because it was taking 6 las shots to down a Zoan. I really hate how the ammo crates only give back 8 rounds. Trying to fight endless extremis without ammo all while the Heiro bombards you ain't fun.
>>2968589>want to sit back and pop heads>buy dark souls>[confused cat noises]
>>2969011>Class called "Sniper">Lift up the hood>Jack the Ripper
>>2968702but that's the correct play? you are supposed to ignore the terminus until you kill all three extremis.
>>2969301HBSR snipers against neurothropes is the one specific case where you can actually try to get rid of the big guy first. It's a bit of a gamble since if you fuck it up you'll make things worse, but if you manage to take it down without missing a shot you'll ensure that all your team has to deal with are the additional extremis spawns under standard circumstances.
>>2969119>class called berserker>want to chimp out and protest peacefully>his main gimmick is healing and doesn't deal much damage
>>2968564>no the fuck they are notYou're right. They're like starfall and helm breaker combined.>except ass in every single way and basically unusable while also not having other weaponsThe strongest melee weapon in the game is ass and unusable?>yes both as an enemy boss and as a combo tool round trip is far more defining to vergil than a teleport that dante also effectively hasDante has round trip too, doofus. And Dante has way less trick capability than Vergil. A good Vergil in 5 at least is constantly tricking.Cope.
>>2969948>You're right. They're like starfall and helm breaker combined.Not even remotely. The fact that you're trying to compare this game to DMC at all when it doesn't even have a fucking launcher let alone air combos means you're beyond retarded>The strongest melee weapon in the game is ass and unusable?Its lights are worse than useless, yes, they don't even serve to deliver you to combo pieces>Dante has round trip too, doofusOnly past 3 and way less important for his combo game and non existent in his boss fight.
>>2969934>doesn't deal much damageHe can give himself a permanent 50% melee damage buff just by holding an empty inferno pistol.Plus his grapple can execute enemies before they're executable. And he can use the bolt carbine and instant alligator.
>>2969953>Not even remotely.Says you.>The fact that you're trying to compare this game to DMC at all when it doesn't even have a fucking launcher let alone air combos means you're beyond retardedDMC is more than just juggling shit in the air all day like a fuckin circus clown. It's not like I'm saying they're the same fuckin games or that assault plays EXACTLY like Vergil either.I'm jokingly saying that Assault plays similarly to Vergil, which I've provided far more evidence for than you have with your endless "no u"s. You definitely can't say any other class plays more like Vergil than Assault, I'll bet the farm.Yes. They're not 1:1. But yes, they also share a lot of similarities between their moveset, I've provided many examples.This doesn't retroactively ruin DMC by admitting this, you autistic faggot. No one's trying to actually compare these games like souls lite ass SM2 can ever compete with the fucking gold standard for action games that is the DMC series.>Its lights are worse than useless, yes, they don't even serve to deliver you to combo piecesThe point is that it uses charge attacks in a similar fashion. Again, these aren't 1:1 comparisons. Yes, obviously beowulf is way fuckin better. They're similar enough to be able to call the power fist the sm2 equivalent of beowulf or DMC fist weapons in general though.Again, all I'm saying is that JP dash assault is the Vergil equivalent of sm2. So what? It's fuckin true, and you can't actually prove otherwise.All I'm doing is making a surface level comparison to a superior game to attach more cool points onto this inferior game. So what if I'm pretending a little bit like this game is sicker than it is, you fun ruining little nigger?>Only past 3 and way less important for his combo game and non existent in his boss fight.Ok.Trick is still up there with JCs and summon swords for top 3 most iconic Vergil abilities. It's what sets him apart from the other devil hunters fighting styles the most as well.
>>2970102this is such a disingenuous post i cant believe i let myself get baited
>>2970126>no fuckin argument>just endless "I'm gonna act like you're being a retard but neglect to even attempt to explain why."I accept your concession.
>>2969957it is not 50%
>>2970138How does 30% + 20% equate to less than 5%?
>>2970148Multiplicative instead of Additive
Percentages are difficult
>>2970148its calculated off the grey weapon damagegame developers dont know basic math
>>2970148>>2969957I forgot to add vanguards perk for mag empty but either way it doesnt matter. it doesnt reach any meaningful breakpoints either way. At best you get to instantly kill a warrior (and rob yourself of an execute)
>>2970179without mag empty
>2970137make your bait less obvious
I hope the greatsword doesnt suck
>>2969365THISthe HBSR is capable of deleting a neurothrope in like 10s or less with minimal setup
>>2970936I'm certain it's going to have a fun gimmickI am genuinely impressed that every melee in this game has a purpose and a distinct style
>Prestige for the first time>Doesn't refund the gold currency I used for class perksSo the devs are telling me to level 1-25 x3 times without perks whatsoever?
>>2972330"yes"
>>2972330only buy the ones that are worth a damn while relevelingbut yeah the prestige system in this game leaves much to be desired
>>2972330Not every perk is worth it.I mean, you could argue that you should grab every first row perk and then ignore the second row of perks if the only ones you want are on the third row. We should all know by now that some perks are just not fucking worth taking. Like that sniper block-stance penetration perk.If you're Tactical, that first row might be all you need with the sole exception of Emperor's Vengeance.
>>2972330if you level on ruthless you get enough per op to buy like 5 perkswhich coincidentally is the total amount of worthwhile perks in a class tree
>>2971916every time i try to do this an extremis jumps me when the neuro is at 30% health, it falls on the ground and the farts sync with extremis' attacks in a way i get stunlocked and die.
>>2972330You should probably buy team perks at least, you'll get enough money to spare for that. Be thankful they've fixed the fuckup where team perks cost 10 times as much as they should.
>>2972330yes, and it feels extremely refreshening to do so.buy a team perk or normies will seethe.
2 Lictors jumping on my asshole while I'm planting the bomb in decap.>>2972958You need the 2 second invis after breaking cloak.
>>2972995Last night I had one of every extremis and a neurothrope spawn on me all at the same time twice in two different games.
>disruption>gate segment>carnifex spawns in>an hero off the edgeWhat did saber mean by this?
>>2974258A boss can spawn at the gate section? I only ever had it spawn right before the drop.
>>2974283Had a carni spawn at the gate in purgation. The game has been getting progressively more buggy every patch
>>2974425>Purgation boss spawnWhen you have to wait for the facility gates to open after the swamp? That's been a legitimate boss spawn point since the mission released, it's not a bug.
>>2974435I've only encountered that once. And the fight was extremely janky
>>2974462It can only spawn a Tyranid boss, while only a Chaos boss can spawn in the 3 boss spawn points before that.
>>2974474good, imagine a neuro spawn in the fucking swamps
>>2974510As long as a sniper or a tactical gets on top of a hill, he could have a pretty good vantage point if someone could keep the neuro away from them.
Finally getting hooded mk6 and 7 helmets eventually.Been waiting for more of these since they left us with the shitty mk10 hood with the ravenwing forehead ornament that makes it chapter specific.
yeah there was a mention of that >>2953950took them long enough, fucking ziggers
What do you all think of the TechMarine and Omni Ax? Impressions, tips, thoughts?
>>2975226Even as a DA fag I wanted a mk 7 hood so this is nice
>>2975913omni axe is good. Time your gunstrike to extend the stagger of your target to get a full charge explosion off. Techmarine himself is S tier.
The kind of niggers I get in my random absolutes
>>2975945if he has full relic it could be fine
>>2975961The sniper did and guess how that turned out. The heavy shat himself and I got downed when the lictor did his grab and I got no notification which got immediately followed up by the neurothrope doing its wave attack in the middle of the lictors combo.
Day 1671 of the special military operation. There are still no good heavy cosmetics. The situation is grim.
>>2976025>new weekly in a few hours>no one cares
>>2976240yeahI don't care
How is any melee supposed to compete with block fist?
Another easy weekly>Obelisk with Larraman Cells, only 1 armour tab and medkits heal everyone around 5 meters
>>2976628Not so fast>retarded teammates into terminators spamming undodgeable rockets from out of the darkness
>>2976791Obelisk is a hard map>early Terminus in the first two areas, now with twice the chance of a Terminator Sorcerer>dark section still fucking up teams with surprise Terminators and tons of corrupted guardsmen in addition to stupid servo skull and capture area in complete darkness segments>island moving section that filters more than half of the playerbase>the last section is actually the easiest unless there are bullshit modifiers involved
If you don't put on any modifiers for custom hard strat, the scaling becomes regular absolute
>>2976628>Another easy weekly>obeliskwe don't care, grigorenko
I find retards.
Blueberry enemy bots for chaos siege.
Is it actually going to be Apothecary? Won't that soft confirm the Contested Health Reworks will have to be addressed this year? I mean when the fuck else would they do it.
>>2978359We dont know. I dont think there have been any hints or teases. The only thing we know is absolver pistol and 2h power sword are being added.
>>2978359More than likely it's going to be apothecary biologis. And that would coincide with those potential cHP changes, yeah.>>2978395We have a pretty good idea tho. It was hinted at the class is going to be the one most requested by "the community" and that was apothecary.
>>2978395Devs said that this class was demanded since "Day 1". I don't think the Judiciar was even considered until word about a greatsword being added were made.Librarian, Chaplain, Apothecary, and Techmarine were definitely being thrown around super early. We can cross out techmarine and Librarian because they flat out admitted they can't make the latter so that just leaves Leandros or the Apothecary.
>>2978401I forgot to add the idea/request in question: https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/ideas/361-new-class-apothecary
Well, Brothers? Which one is it?
>>2978416tac
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>>2978416tech
>>2978416I haven't played them all yetbut of the ones I've played so far (Assault, Tac, & Vanguard) I would say Tactical just because this game is more fun when I get to throw grenades and shoot my gunVanguard is a close secondAssault had the highest highs, but absolutely had the lowest lows because of how buggy it is
So next week is the real update?
>>2979128tomorrow is the community update if I am not mistaken
>sm2 update>new ace combat>new game of war>Dragon's dogma 2 DLC>some other stuff i forgot about tooDamn this is not eating good, this is straight up too much.
>>2978416Assault despite how buggy and inconsistent his jump pack dash is
>>2979128Yep, Patch 15 is on 1st October and CU is due today.
>>2979365lol same here.
>>2978570Based.
>>2980091based on what?
>>2980159Yes.
>>2979137>>2980047The community update will be on in 4 hours (3 hrs 51 min).
New community update is out Brothers.https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/458-september-community-update
>>2980920Bets on what they will fail to deliver on/in time?
>>2980920And the new battle pass
>>2980920Exorcists pack.
>>2980931I feel like a different helmet choice would have sold this better.Right now I'm not too convinced
Space Awoogas Champion
>>2980923>>2980925>no new missions until new class update update next year>which has a huge chance of being delayed until June>no new weapon melee weapon after thunderhammer until late next yearSlightly grim seeing as how likely the delays will be. I doubt the new heroics will keep things fresh.
>>2980920>3 heroic weapons will be added with patch 15:>Power Axe (Frost Axe - Balance): Killing enemies with Executions generates Power Charges that empower your next Whirl Slash. Damage and radius are increased, and enemies hit are slowed.>One-Handed Thunder Hammer (Power Maul - Balance): Holding the attack button performs a powerful Ground Slam that consumes all charges, damage increases by the amount of charges spent.>Auto Bolt Rifle (Iron Hands): The rate of fire is increased, but gradually decreases during shooting.
>>2980925>prestige reworkyay, more things to fumble over. I can already see the shitstorm that will ensue.
White Scars and Raven Guard heads are also coming out with the patch as heroic unlockables.
>>2980920Kek, by Saber's own admission. Fuck chaos. Take that Dmitry.
>4th perk row >along with prestige reworkHooooooo booooy
>>2980925>another blood angel champ skin>most likely going to assaultI don't want this at all, the entire BA tactical shit is available on assault already. I'd have rather the deathwatch stuff goes to assault instead or something. Also the last champion skin has to be for dark angels.
>>2981066It's going to be Sanguinary Priest, what other chapter-speciifc champ pack could the Apothecary get?
>>2980920>Apothecary Hell yeah
WHERE IS THE CONTESTED HEALTH REWORK, BROTHERS?Will it be addressed in the Vanguard's perk rework patch or with the release of the Apothecary?
>>2981066It's going to be the shitty primaris sanguinary priest, since we're getting a gay ass apothecary instead of a fun class.
I watched the chaos siege video and the marines just afk there like the operation bots.
Penance Mode sounds like a slog because they're fucking doing the cape unlock thing with it>You need to clear high clear penances to unlock the Lamenters Armor Set for THAT classI just hope clearing a penance mode on Absolute or something means it'll count for the cape grind too. I was saving up my Absolute clears for shit like this.
>>2981257I wont have that issue.
>>2981257>Penance Mode sounds like a slogwhat is CE Brother
>>2981152>>2981207Ah yeah they did say the apothecary champ skin would come after. Still no dark angels since year 1 and I'm scared that IF is going to go to assault. In a perfect world, assault would get the deathwatch skin.
Techmarine at least has the servo-arm and a class unique weapon to provide some unique executions.Will the Apothecary get either? At least a couple unique executes on majoris with the narthecium gauntlet or reductor pistol?
>>2980923A 4th perk row sounds pretty wild. I think they've realized how much they can get done after having most of the team switch to SM3 so I don't think anything aside from the Apothecary patch will get delayed
2 more missions means alongside Purgation, the final mission count will cleanly end with the mission select screen being symmetrical/end with a 3x5 count. Would have annoyed the shit out of me if the row wasn't at least completed or they made a row incomplete.
>>2980931It looks kinda low effort to me, but they are wearing thin on manpower so I probably shouldn't complain.
>>2981540The shift to SM3 is really felt now but it was just a matter of time.
I just want decent gravis armor. Please Saber.
>>2980920Minotaurs I get, but how popular are White Consuls these days. I haven't kept up with that particular successor chapter.Though the pack will probably be based on something similar to pic related.
>>2981544Yeah, I wonder how much from that BP is gonna get delayed or pushed to year 3. With a skeleton crew as they are probably running rn that's bound to happen. They can't develop SM2 at the cost of SM3.
>>2981544I kinda see it as the fewer devs working on SM2, the sooner we'll get SM3. Which I really hope is less grindy. I know it won't be
>>2980923>///redacted///jesus christ one more year of retards hypeposting because they think "redacted" means "something special" and not "the suits haven't decided yet"
>>2980954>no new missions until new class update update next yearand that's a good thing, why the fuck would you want saber to take your gear away again.also it's going to be chaos, at best chaos+tyranids and you will never play it after winning absolute once.
>>2981718I play any mission casually on Absolute with maybe the exception of Reliquary.
>>2981707>inb4 people try to wish blood ravens champion into existenceThe fact they even put so many things on that roadmap is a miracle, but I kinda doubt all of it will make it into the game in those time frames (if at all).
>>2981594>[stares in techmarine]
>Wake up>Read announcement>Sickest fucking stack of cosmetics yet>Exorcists>Deathwatch>Mortifactors>Minotaurs>Crimson Fists
No blood ravens no buyDow 4 is even coming out soon
>The new class actually was ApothecaryI'm so fucking confused. I don't mind, but that is not where they were going with the hints.
>Finally getting a Mk6 right shoulder
the animations they showed in their promo videos look awful
>>2982155They're not finished. Techmarine's animations were rough as fuck when first shown too.
>one hand thunder hammer charge effect is a forced AOE stagger>staggers warriors out of red attacksokay so when is normal thunder hammer getting buffed?
>>2982126
>>2982176What is this meant to convey? Every hint was pointing at a Judiciar. Greatsword, the silence emoji etc.
>>2982158Well i doubt they're gonna get much better now since we're a week away from release date and they couldn't finish them (and other stuff to) with extra month.
>>2962042Not AI>>2961724Is this your first time seeing mark4 armor
Normal mark six shoulder pad for the right side finally
>>2982225Now we just need the MK6 chest which IS canonically used by some existing chapters so there's no excuse.
>>2980920All cool, but a serious question:Do we finally get all enemies (sans Trygon I guess) for the training arena? I still can't practice on biovore without loading into an op.
I'm actually a little concerned Apothecary's perk tree is gonna be jank as fuck on release considering he'll be built and designed around having four perk rows instead of three.
>>2980923Just to be clear; none of this is going to include new color palettes, correct? Those are in the chapter packs, not the champion packs or cosmetic packs.
Vanguard is 100% losing the Extremis heal with Apothecary around the corner. There is no way anybody but the most retarded gorilla nigger would retain the Extremis heal.But then again, Tactical STILL has the grenade regen perk, AND the ammo regen perk.
>>2980923>>2980925Where's heavy rework? Are you telling me he's not getting any? Come on Saber you vatnik cunts...
>>2982421Open your eyes, nigga.
>>2982435
>No rework for BulwarkI know he doesn't NEED one, but it's weird nothing's mentioned despite the fact they said ages ago that heal banner was a mistake. Apoth is a good excuse to redux some of his shit.
Oh baby.
Clean Exorcist Mk7 with alt vents confirmed.
>>2982517So yeah, this slightly differs from the regular Mk7. It has the cheek vents instead of the piping.
>>2982498I want camo pattern for my greenbro armor
>>2981269>>2972331I just started playing and I don't know what this symbol is
>Raven Guard and Marines Malevolent nogs finally get their right shoulderBout time, damn.
>>2982571It's the enginicus symbol. A mystical technology that Leman Russ bestowed upon us in the most dire of needs.
>>2982571Cheat Engine. It lets you alter some values for the unlocks so you can set it all to the highest value-1, do a mission and unlock it. Which is kind of the only way to get some of the stuff because the mission count for it is just way too much time spent playing
>Nearly triple the numbers of chaosIf that doesn't ring any zogger bells for when they're making final two ops I don't know what will.
>>2982926my eyesight impaired Brother see >>2982435
>>2980925>>2980923>power greatsword not until Q3 27fucking kill me
>>2982943Shut up i deleted my post it never happened fuck off
>nuke auspex>buff gunsThe vatniks better deliver.
>>2980935>fur pelt pauldronsCAPTAIN OF THE SECOND COMPANYWARDENOF ULTRAMAR
>>2982207>Is this your first time seeing mark4 armorunironically yesI had never trully dived into 40k lore before this gamelike yeah I knew the story of the universe and the horus heresy and all thatbut the indiividual marks of power armor? yeah no
>>2982935Clearly there's not enough chaos missions, this is why the kills are behind. Make MORE of them.
>>2982985where did they say any of that in the post??????
>>2983006The individual marks are like the biggest aspect of taste people discuss for Astartes beyond Chapters and colors. It's worth learning them, because you might end up liking MKV, or MKVI Corvus, or the classic MKVII that was THE look for space marines for years.
>>2983041as a layman I genuinely thought all other helmet styles other than mark 7 must have indiicated special roles, or a certain chapter culture>oh yeah that's the bird helmet for the bird guys>and that's the more knight looking helmet for the black templar knight guysI'm sure I'm not alone in that
Do you think we can expect Deathwatch champion pack to look somewhat like pic related?
>>2983041As much as I love the different marks of power armor and the stylistic differences, I think Primaris have killed a lot of that interest with new players. Since Primaris just don't have that kind of pimpery.
>>2983071For newbies, sure.MKV Heresy is the "can be repaired with two rolls of ducktape and some WD40" of armor. The Carcharodons love this armor, and it's not unusual to see it on the likes of Raptors or Marines Malevolent due to its cheap efficiency and easy maintenance.MKVI Corvus is the super stealthy armor with silenced servos and reduced weight. Complete with a boosted auspex sensor array in the nose for scouting, just like a fighter jet. Raven Guard love it, Raptors love it, Marines Malevolent again use this because everybody hates them and they struggle for restocks.
>>2983109yessee the opening cinematic of the campaign for inspiration
>>2983109Yeah, and something like this could be another place they take cues from. Pretty cool champion idea honestly.
absolute reliquary btw
>no Blood Ravens>for year 3Dead game
>>2983346post death count
What is better running the single shot or double shot build for the heroic plasma pistol? I generally use it on heavy and tactical but I dont really take the overheating perks.
Rate Year 3 based on initial impressions.
>>2983401Full died and respawned twice each. Had to use a relic because the vanguard went down on my turret and I was trying to activate it before a terminator sorcerer was able to attack after his 3 clone split. I killed it before his bleedout timer but I just left him.
>>29834979/10 with the only negative being I know shit is going to get delayed.>3 new weapons>21 new Heroics>12 new Heroic cosmetics>Lamenters Crucible cosmetics>Apothecary>2 new Operations>Tactical, Vanguard and Heavy reworks>Prestige rework>8 new perks for every class
>Crimson Fist cosmetic packME SUMERJO EN ESTA SUCIEDAD HEREJE EN SU NOMBRE
Why does melee feel so ass right now?
>a fucking year before two handed power sword
>>2981619White Consuls genuinely confuse me, because what unique cosmetics could they even be getting? What unique or interesting lore do they even have? They're just one of the many alt-schemes of Ultramarine.
>second fists championWho do they even have for unique models in 40k currently? Tor Garadon? So I guess it will probably be for heavy since he’s gravis even though he’s a bit plain and maybe not the best fit
>>2983567genuinely heartbreaking
please let Apothecary have a perk that grants them a buff while carrying the Gene Seed>while carrying a gene seed, gain 20% damage reduction and increase CHP recovery from melee by 30%>if you go down you lose the buff and have no way of getting it backKINO
>>2983912Honestly, the gene seed should be giving a buff or something even without the Apothecary around.Give me a reason to pick this up at max level beyond taking the heat off of my retarded teammates.
>>2983912>wanting a perk that can be completely useless for most of a mission if you get bad item spawnsThis would end up being about as useful as heavy’s “become god when your team is dead” perk
>>2983912>>2983999Useless perk because there are gene sneed spawns that spawn way late and far away in the mapAt level 25 prestige 4 no one is going to frantically search for the gene sneed after playing the Apothecary solo a bajillion timesAlso can the Apothecary solo regular Absolute? You're stuck with one melee weapon with no shields and just an assortment of pistols
>>2984022>You're stuck with one melee weapon with no shields and just an assortment of pistolswhat?
>>2984025Apothecary only gets either a chainsword and power axe plus the absolver, the vatniks will probably give him access to all pistols plus the 1H Thunderhammer
What makes the Absolver pistol special?
>>2984036I dont think there is a single line of lore for the absolver pistol.
>>2984036heavy heavy bolt pistol for space space marines
Every cloak and cape can get different colors and patterns.
>>2984059I just hope you can change the cross color on the templar robe
>>2984059THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO SEE
Hopefully Apoth gets something related to the narthecium gauntlet.A little chainfist under the drill is still a fucking chainfist
>>2984022>>2984011>not wanting an occassional semi-permanent giga-buffyeah of course it's not actually "meta" and "viable"but having a turbo buff with unique conditions for activation is neat and differentI'd love to see itand it would be 100% in character for what the Apothecary isalso, you could slightly rework the gene seed spawnsfrankly it makes more sense for it to always spawn towards the beginning of the mission, so it's more of a challenge>always spawns in the first 25% of the mission>when playing as an Apothecary, you will see the gene seed through walls, highlighted and pulsing in greentherefixed
>>2983567>a weapon that has been demonstrated to be entirely complete in modeling and movesetI hate modern game devs.
>>2984140They could get real """"creative"""" and just port over that fucking servo arm 1:1 from the techmarine model and animations.
Made a fatal mistake, should have added Leandros at the bare minimum to go with the ApothecaryAt least the Techmarine had turret support, the Apothecary is a pure melee character with no melee gimmicksThey're already adding the 1H Thammer, they can add a Crozius/power mace and give him Titus' campaign special
team skill #1 = everyone gets one free medkit when they join a game, medkit supply increases by 1 for all squad membersteam skill #2 = can carry 3 extra medkits and drop them for others/yourselfteam skill #3 = 5% heal per majoris executeclass skill #1 = narthecium lets you instantly revive a ded teammate and remove woundsclass skill #2 = healing beam at 1% per second by default and charges only can be replenished in drop pods, if you're carrying a gene seed it goes up to 5% and also removes woundsclass skill #3 = carrying a gene seed reduces respawn timer by 75% (50% without) and respawned teammates become invulnerable for 10 seconds while at full contested healthprestige perk #1 = ranged damage increases by 15%prestige perk #2 = healing beam charges at 200% prestige perk #3 = medkits heal 40% moreprestige perk #4 = you are invulnerable when reviving ded teammates and you cannot be knocked back, stunned from heavy hits for 15 seconds afterprestige perk #5 = auxiliary reloadprestige perk #6 = duellistprestige perk #7 = gene seed spawns in the nearest area available and is automatically highlighted, if already picked up and/or lost the game will spawn anotheryou're welcome vatniks
i showed you my genesperm answer me
>so utterly emasculate the assault he stops trying after the second neurothropelmao. I am deeply worried about the vanguard rework because he is genuinely incredible right now even without the extremis heal perk.>>2984372Why does he look so sad?
Every time I play assault I regret it. It's so fucking buggy. I've got the dodge build and somehow get hit twice by one of the Carnifex's swing and instantly die from 100% hp (got hit twice).
>>2984402if you had to fondle balls of your dead battle brothers over and over again you would be sad too.
>>2983766>>2981619They had some one off unique Captain mini to go along with that BL book nobody read so it will be this
>>2983109he is meant to be mk8 so not really
>>2980923For those who haven't seen it btw, the new LotD models being truescale firstborn might have improved the odds of non-primaris armour making its way into this game. That includes things like legs, backpacks, and torso pieces too, unlike the "MKX with an old helmet" type of deals we've seen previously.
>>2984819Yeah, I've seen the models. Pretty cool LoTD is getting some love but I don't like they've been neutered visually. I guess painting flames on skulls/helmets and everywhere else is pain.
>CSM Announcer in Chaos Siege isn't PvP CSM Announcerbut why
>>2984825>>2984819The fact that the Legion of the Damned even got a refresh at all is like fucking Christmas. GW seems to be actually listening to people lately.
>>2984840That was always going to happen soon enough. That they went full on non-primaris armour for them is the real surprise for me. Gives me a little bit of hope for the future of space marine aesthetics.
>>2984825>I don't like they've been neutered visually.they're basically a sneak peek of the new tactical squad box
>>2984830actors typically ask for a significantly higher compensation to redo or record extra voiceovers, precisely because people expect the same actors to be involved. Here we have a rare occurence of a company not caving in.
>>2984928GW has lost the ability to make good space marine sculpts.
I want the Heavy rework to include a combat knife or chainsword with the HBR. That would heavily entice people over to that weapon.
fuck melee let heavy dual wield guns give him bigger guns remove his feet and install tank tracks
>>2985316I'm kind of mad at GW they changed servitor bases from 25mm to 40mm to 25 and 32mm I JUST WANTED TO PLAY A GAME FOR FUCKS SAKE
>>2985316Heavy rework leak
>>2985395>reworkBut...nothing changed??
>>2984402>Why does he look so sad?depressed coomer energy
>>2985577he'll be bigger than the other two players
>>2986188primaris primaris marine
>>2986188Tyberos?
Melta bros...
>>2986367People can't into percentages. They should just say it's 0.65 increase, though it doesn't have the same ring to it.
>>2986367>>2986393context?
>>2986461Meltas were promised to be buffed in Patch 15
>>2986367>65%we're not getting something that big for free, so there'll be nerfs too, but it's also not big enough to make the damage worth itbets on what the downsides will be?
>>2986470this, i'm afraid that will be the end of the melee heavy meme
>>2986367>65%lol, 150% would raise an eyebrow, this is low energy. I'm sure discord sycophants gobbled it up though
>>298647065% is nothing. its still 4 shots to incap a sword warrior
>>2986475Melee heavy carries the heroic heavy bolter though>>2986502These devs usually operate in numbers less than or equal to 15%, so while it's not something that'll matter in practice they'll probably throw in a doubled reload timer or something to make sure we don't have too much fun
>>2986367What is the perfidious vatnik planning?
>>2986663Can't wait to continue not using meltas
Why do they do this thing where information just slips through the community blog and it only gets said on Discord?But if Meltas are getting buffed this hard, we might be seeing some other positive ranged damage buffs.
>>2986663-65% ammo
>>2986367>>2986470I genuinely believe that you could DOUBLE the damage of all melta weapons and they wouldn't even be overpowered
>>2986663>we made meltas "stronger" but le quirkyfucking slav game devsI hate them so much
>>2986945Same. 3 shots to incap is still a LOT for a weapon that has such little ammo.
>>2986259>you survived only through the double rubicon surgery
>>2986804>buffed this hard*monkey pawed
>>2986804It's only a substantial buff if you're playing Substantial or lower
>space wolf cape isnt a fur mantleI am going to say the n word.
And gravis exorcists armor.
>>2987455I love that. It better be equippable on other classes. The absolute capes are too shiny.
>>2987455PLEASE TELL ME THOSE PAULDRONS ARE USABLE OUTSIDE THE SKINgive me Titus kino
>>2987457That's cool and all but why are there no blood raven stuff? It's three years, Dawn of War 4 is coming out, shouldn't they do a tie-in? They've been a crowd favorite for like 20 years.
>>2987603>no blood raven stuff?Anon, all the gear is blood ravens gear.
>>2987603What even counts as "special" Blood Ravens wargear?But it would be nice to get some fucking Phobos shit thanks to Cyrus because there's so fucking few
>>2987603Nobody at GW thought about making any unique drip for Blood Ravens outside of a Gabe model who looks like Polnareff. Then again, there are chapters with the most single riced-up Chapter Masters like Asterion Moloc and Tyberios, while the rest of their dudes pretty much had nothing or identified themselves with a certain armour mark - taking until these SM2 DLCs to actually give them something.
>>2987728I'm asking the same questions about the Crimson Fist pack. Both the Blood Ravens and Crimson Fists certainly can get fancy with their armor, but they don't really have a visual gimmick. There might be some cool stuff in that Crimson Fists DLC, but I can't imagine it'll really elevate them in the same way that it might for the really out-there chapters. Like, Space Wolves have their wolf pelts and fetishes, Space Sharks have their Maori stencils, but Crimson Fists just paint their gauntlets red. It just doesn't seem super necessary.
This stupid fucking game should have ditched classes altogether and just used a build-a-marine from dow2's the last stand mode>yes i want a jump pack with a rad missile launcher to commit super war crimes
>>2987710There's lots of cool Mark 7 stuff you could make Blood Raven inspired. Look at all the armor they had in Dawn of War 2. I just want Tarkus to be referenced anywhere.
>>2987741>rad missilesDon't make me yearn for a SM game set during the Horus Heresy, anon.
>>2987749I just wanna be a legion destroyer and use profane and forbidden weaponry against filthy fucking xenosI want to use weapons so fucking destructive and unhinged that an iron warrior would be like, bruh relax for a fucking minute
>>2987757>I'm gonna shoot them wirh my totally rad, rad missiles>sounds neat, what does it so>theyre gonna get giga radiation sickness and maybe the effects of toxic waste too, I dont know. Imagine that guy the original robocop who drives that van into the industrial waste vat>by the emperor >yeah like him, only also hes shitting whats left of his guts out and he has severely reduced bone and tissue density>does it do anything else thats horrible I should know about?>yeah where ever i shoot the missiles, it makes that area cause those effects to anyone that walks into it>how long does that last?>forever >I shouldn't be standing thjs close to you orthopedic missiles, should i
>>2987757>SM3's final boss is a mechanivore
Some of the worst dailies today.
>melta getting buffedwhat about the multi-melta?
>>2987827probably not getting touched until the heavy rework
>>2987457>Done the thing again where the shoulders are just Tacticus pattern so they look shit on Heavy
When's the update dropping anyway?
>>29881781st October
>>2988193Fuck me that's the worst possible time.>Ace Combat>Gears of War
>>2985058Roll all other Gravis into himGive him Power weapons and Chainsword tooImo class design is annoying, wasteful and boring here to begin withIt should be simply Phobos, Tacticus and Gravis at release. Then eventually Terminator and specialists like Techmarine and Apothecary, like we gotClass stacking is in by a default. They are Marines trained to use all of this gear anyway. You simply switch personalities so there can't be two Strabans in teamAbilities like a Jump Pack, Hook, Iron Halo, or Auspex should be selectable gear as well. Different versions of that gear as well. Think DoW2 equipment systemEveryone has access to almost all gear. Pulling yourself with a Hook wouldn't work on Gravis, but you would be able to pull someone to youGear should be point locked, just like in DoW and tabletop. Master crafted weapons should cost more points than generics so you can't roll in all master crafted gear. Gravis would pay less points to use heavy weaponsYou want melee Gravis, you pick melee master crafted weapons, discard completely ranged ones and pick fitting ability gear, like even that different version of a hook pulling enemy to youYou can pick Phobos with a jump pack which can't Ground Pound, but can stay in air for a longer, with stronger ranged weaponsOr a Tacticus with a jump pack which lets you spam dashes, but can't really fly, because that's it's gimmickOr a Tacticus with an Iron Halo and versatile but average and generic melee and ranged weaponsAnd then CSM are playable as well, but have completely different approach to classes and different weapons than loyalists. The one advantage of Primaris is that CSM and SM aren't reskings of each other anymore. Lean into rather than make CSM be reskins of Primaris. Obvious option here are generic Legionary and then god marked Plague Marines or Berzerkers
>>2988260There is no way to balance a Terminator in a game like this.
One of these is separating the material from the color. So we will have material option (matte/glossy/ect) in addition to color.
>stuck in eternal loading screen in the main menuSomething down?
>>2989531>can finally have truly glossy whitekino
>>2990790>that checkerboard backgrounddamn I thought I wouldnt have to download it firstoh well
Do we think we get melee heavy as part of the rework? Between that and the perk expansion I don’t know how many flavors of shoot gun more gooder they can really do. Especially since all the fix your retarded teammates mistakes perks will probably be done away with in preparation for apothecary. Might fit if the IF champion is Garadon
>>2990790>>2990799
>>2989531Was this announced anywhere or is this just based on the option for it getting found by dataminers a while back?
>>2991410The datamine.
>>2991417Got it, thanks Anon--here's hoping its earlier in the road map rather than later.
>>2989531>CAN FINALLY HAVE MATTE PERFECTION ON ALL MY COLORSI'M FUCKING CUUUUMMMMIIIIIING
>boltgun boom (boltgun for mobile phone) released>controls clunky as fuck, seems impossible to move and turn at the same timeamazing, zoomers can now experience the trying to play easy mode doom with no mouse in '93
>Space Wolves Champion>Exorcists Pack>MKVI Right Shoulder>Black Templars Reinforced Shoulder>Assault Iron Halo>Colorable Capes>Color & Material Separation (Potential)>Lamenters Damaged Armor>1-Handed Thunder Hammer>3 Heroic Weapons>Chaos Siege Mode>Crucible Mode>Tactical Rework>Melta Gun ReworksSeems solid to me.
>>2992668Oh I also forgot the extra slot for tabards/crotch cloths and capes which can now be combined.
>>2992668For me it's the Corvus pattern right shoulder. I can finally make my Marines Malevolent the exact way I want without mismatched parts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LriN7IYJifo
>>2993189>you work for us now or we destroy you in courtisn't this UAE-tier slavery?
Man, so many things coming out this week>Patch 15>Witcher 3 Remastered>Gears of WarAnd one more peanut:>Clive Barker's Hellraiser: RevivalThis one is made by Saber. What are the odds this shovelware contributed in some capacity to extra month of "development" for all those super features and cosmetics?
>>2993806Ace combat too, then Dragon's Dogma 2 DLC shortly after. ... Holy shit.
>>2993806I got Patch 15 for this, Darktide update on Tuesday, and Ace Combat 8 (and 0)
>>2993806>Clive Barker's Hellraiser: RevivalWhy can't they just focus on making the game that's bringing in heaps of cash ffs? That Toxic commando or whatever it was they made also turned out to be a dud (shocker) so why not just get all vatniks to make one game, or two if you count SM3 I guess? Not to mention their CEO spewing some nonsense about AI generated "content".Talk about mismanagement.
>>2993848Because Saber has the same business model as Nexon. Ship a product every 9 months or go out of business.
>>2993855I had to look up Nexon. Good Lord.... I'm not surprised. But credit to Saber they're at least not dealing in mobile games as opposed to those Koreans. But you've got a point.If it were up to me I'd drop any and all bullshit or non-essential IPs and make those vatniks go full speed with Warhammer content with skeleton crews working on side projects, which I assume would be Roadcraft etc.
Since they’ve been trying to base champions a lot more directly off individual models lately, what models would you like to see them adapt, and for what classes?
>>2994555>what models would you like to see them adapt, and for what classesMy personal contender. I think Tactical and Vanguard would work. Maybe even Straban.
>>2994595how do you feel about GW turning the army of hunking bara greek heroes into lanky coed ceremonial guard?
>>2994595kek
>Meltas confirmed getting reworked>Prestige rework>Contested Health rework?>Class reworksWhat else?
>>2994621Nothing was retconned here, it's still canon
>>2994695New row of perks for everyoneMelee weapons get a third heroic weapon
>>2994924Talking about unannounced system reworks
I understand why that one guy's friend who was cracked at Sniper, ended up preferring the Las Fusil over the HBSR>Las Fusil gets a fuck ton of ammo with all the reserve upgrades>Versatile Precision is based off max reserve ammo, so you get more out of it>HBSR doesnt work with Versatile Precision, so if you fuck up you cannot easily replenish>Las Fusil has its own theoretically infinite ammo meme to play around, that being focusing on collaterals instead of headshotsseems like youll just have a healthier ammo economy with Las Fusil compared to HBSRalso having the incentive to use it on hordes instead of being a dedicated to only Majoris and beyond is nice
>>2995177heroic BSR is only good in Substantial/Normal where it pops heads left and right it annoys noobs and newbs that they can't get armour or cHP backThe extremely low ammo count and no recovery makes it dogshit in Absolute/HardLas Fusil can also cleave multiple Minoris and recover the same shot if you've blasted too manyWith the heroic BSR you're doomed to carry the Inferno pistol for mob control aka dooming your gunstrike damageThe vatniks unironically believe that there are players out there who are equal or better than CS2 professionals who can headshot multiple times in very quick succession when in reality 99.9% of heroic BSR users are useless in massive waves and Terminus fights because they spend more time aiming headshots and getting swamped by multiple enemies without any real way to clean them upThey need to bump the default ammo count to double and give it access back to the Sniper's ammo recovery prestige perk
So assuming they keep sticking close to tabletop models this year we get>space wolves:wolf guard(confirmed)>imperial fists:tor garadon(only real option)>blood angels:sanguinary priestMeaning the only real wild cards are the deathwatch and redacted. They’ve confirmed a phobos champion this year so presumably one of those will be it. Apothecary will probably be boring unless they have a new model in the works. Garadon is probably heavy unless they warp him to be techmarine because of the grav gun, which I hope doesn’t happen since it’s the best shot at a heavy intercessor collar without unshadeable green ropes
>>2995319Deathwatch champ and vanguard rework are both patch 16. I think it's a safe assumption that he'll be the phobos champion.
>>2995354I hope heavy and vanguard both get champs with their rework, but I wouldn’t say we can guarantee it when Tac comes with a Bulwark skin. They do at least share most armor parts
Any quick fix to the ACE-BASE launch error besides reboot? Kind of tired of it doing this
>kneecap maximum ammo across the board>several layers of ammo refundingcreate problem as an excuse to create a solution
>>2995369That's true. I'm crossing my fingers that the DW will at least be a phobos or gravis class, since we already have a tacticus DW shoulder.
>>2994621In a way, better closely resembles the slender but taller proportions they had in the original art, yet simultaneously kind of made them lean closer towards Stormcasts, probably with the lack of Aquillas on the kneepads. Also, the plumes make it a pain in the ass to pose the heads. For some reason Venatari are an excellent kit as with the rest of the 30k plastic ports, but the rest of the infantry updates suck.
>>2995452The really should’ve thrown those in the accolades store with the other deathwatch cosmetics. I can’t bring myself to do deathwatch heavy because the pauldron looks so damn dinky on him
>>2995379Never heard of this issue.
SoonCan’t wait to fist xenos as a Fist on heavy
>>2995596It's gonna be a good year for fisters.
>>2995630you just know the crimson fist champion skin will come with a matching power fist skin
>>2995630Both Fists getting effectively double packs this year is great. Thank the Emperor for effectively identical heraldry
>>2995596Stupid ugly Fist
>>2913303Hi /sm2g/, I haven't played since release week when I got about 7/8ths through and ragequit playing on hard. I heard difficulty and bullshit enemy behaviour was rebalanced, is it worth going back to and is there still a multiplayer community for all the coop maps?
>>2995923Game is alive and its not that hard once you get the hang of it, outside of some hard stratagems that are just pure bullshit. Also chaos is still bullshit.
>>2995923>ragequit playing on hardlolYes there are still players. You find games instantly.
>>2995805I wish they’d get back some of their Heresy era aesthetic. There’s a niche for knights with fur cloaks between Space Wolves and Dark Angels that doesn’t get filled by anyone these days, and it’d be better than yellow Ultramarines like they too often are.
>>2995494>Play SM2 without issues for days>Weeklies reset on Nikke, launch it on PC because 10% DPS debuff on mobile>SM2 no longer works>Find out both use EAC, and Nikke literally will not unhook, forcing a reboot to launch SM2Fun
>>2996071>smiled for indulging in Chinese gacha slop
>>2996257*smited
>>2996257It's Korean but thanks bro, needed a good smite
>>2996056Fists are shit no matter the era
I really wish there wasn't 3 different voice lines playing while I'm fighting shit.
>>2995463>yet simultaneously kind of made them lean closer towards Stormcasts,funny you mention that, I just painted a stormcast kill team and will be using them to proxy captains and a blade champion.
>>2995311How about you get better at aiming. The HSBR is broken as fuck on Tyranids and it's boring as shit already with a Sniper teammate killing everything before anybody else gets a shot off.
Most important post I've seen so far in the Reddit AMA. The class reworks are part of key system overhauls under the hood.
>>2997175
From the Q&A:>Q:Will we get more operations with boss fights for Chaos, seeing as they have only 1 to Tyranids 3. (Not counting Hive titan and Heldrake)>DG:We have something interesting in progress, that is not listed in the Y3 roadmap. Too early to spoil the surprise. Yay, more chaos boss fights. Buuuuut:>Q:Any chance to have a proper send off for captain acheran and chairon in an operation format?>DG:Acheran and Chairon are very dear to us. They will get a proper burial eventually.So that's nice
>>2997184
>>2997192>Apothecary is GravisYep, it's a Biologis.
Finally customizable banners!
>>2997188>Q:With the Lamenters and Minotaurs getting cosmetics in game any chance other cursed founding chapters get the same, Like the Black Dragons?>DG: Without spoiling stuff, lets just say SM2 will continue to get more customization options and will continue to feature more and more exotic options.>Q:Would it be possible to implement a Siege-style "Continue/Return to Battle Barge" vote in Operations after a mission failure to save having to load all the way out and then all the way in again? >DG:Yes, I've mentioned this above, we are discussing how we can improve the mission flow right now. Not so bad.
Seems like SM2 is being pivoted into the main focus like it should have been after Saber's other games keep flopping/not doing as well.
Once again I am vindicated in my statement months ago that the seemingly simplest things (UI) come with the biggest consequences when changed.
Hm, this is probably why they're so slow to make positive balance changes. The winrate in Absolute is 80%.
>>2997256If it came at the cost of having triple or quadruple slots I'd be down with the idea. Just let people know and be open about the change so that we can snap some screenshots and/or make notes on bling combos we made.
>>2997259can someone with a r*dd*t account ask him what the winrate against the sorcerer is?
>>2997259The current strat is for someone to leave so a bot can pick up the dead guys, and then rejoin with full HP which I abhor, but it also counteracts all the bullshit that downed the team in the first place.
Doesn't an Apoth Biologis confirm it's not a Sanguinary Priest for the Champ skin?
>>2996540I thought about painting Legionaries for KT, but they look they're just going to get phased out next year. On the other hand, I suppose basic-bitch CSM kind of has to stick around in some form.
Will Techmarine get 25 Absolute clear rewards? Otherwise I feel like every match I play with him that inevitably won't be tracked is a waste
Maybe they will do a mission for them.
Both of the upcoming operations will have bosses. There will also be new extremis but "not what we expect." This can mean literally anything.
So I should delay playing this week's weekly right since the update is like a day later?
>>2997874Maybe they will fix the Zoan's beam's hitbox for SM3.
>>2997250Can't wait to see Road Kings being a gigantic flop too. All because they want to an audience that doesn't exist, when all the sim dudes are frothing at the mouth for something different from american truck simulator. Fucking retarded slaves.
>>2997250>>2998219Their approach of rapid firing multiple darts at the board did pay off with SM2. I think that Hellraiser game will do nicely too.Would be funny if their Kotor remake had combat from SM2Hitman Classic Trilogy Remastered should be free moneyBut yeah SM will blatantly finally get attention it needed
>>2997901There have been cases where a new weekly pops up replacing the one that started earlier in the week and cases where it didn't.Up in the air in this case.Thankfully I'm not in a rush to grab the new heads or the heroic bolter.
>>2997475Probably just means it will be more similar to the old model with the raised gorget. They seem to get some amount of leeway with champions skins, with the heavy’s most recent being a non gravis model adapted to gravis and techmarine’s being the opposite case. Plus the old IF champion helmet iirc comes from firstborn deathwatch, so it isn’t completely out of the question to base parts of the skin off them.
>>2997874>"New extremis enemies are coming, but itsn ot what you would expect."Loyalist extremis for Chaos siege, no?
>>2997874I keep saying that they could add some terminus variants like a carnifex with a venom cannon or one that has crab claws instead of spine bunkers to make it PURELY melee.Similarly Helbrutes with different weapon loadouts and stuff.>new ExtremisDrawing a blank on what new extremis enemies could be added aside from other variants like neuro-lictors or ranged raveners. Maybe even a Pyrovore?>new TerminusWe fought Bio-titan so I don't think we can get bigger with Tyranids but we still got some big ones to serve as a end-puzzle boss.Chaos could have us deal with the Lord of Change apparition or something but we also haven't reused Imurah's Sorc on a disk asset in Operations yet.
>>2998384I want to throw down with loyalist terminators. The confetti marines bore me.
>>2998384Oh yeah, they could go for this too. Loyalist Terminators or maybe Ogryns.
You know, the idea of Loyalist Terminators is partly the reason they decided to add a 1H Thunder Hammers for Assault Terminators.No way we're getting claws and the Ranged Termies can keep their power fists (and cyclone rocket pods lmao for close range spergouts)
>>2997863That would mean Talasa and/or Veridian might die with them.I won't sacrifice the boys for those two.
Multiple people asked for Techmarine ultragrind cosmetics and did not receive answers from the dev.
>>2998384They literally said to not expect anything more for chaos
>>2997184>Will we get an operation that centers around the deaths of Acheran and Chairon as a sort of "stepping stone" into Space Marine 3>I've replied about it beforedoes anyone what the response is here?I am genuinely curiousif it's not covered in SM2 and not covered in some purely between-game story, then that means SM3 will have Nids because those two die on the Hive World of Tryggwill SM3 open on Titus already being Captain of the 2nd? surely not right?
>>2998659at this point I would settle for just getting more armor from the rest of the Intercessors it's bullshit that he's missing so much
They died against Necrons, the vatnik is blowing smoke and won't add a new faction for one final operation.
>>2998395>pyrovoreThat's what they should've added over biovores. Actual artillery tanks would've been kino. Spore mine factories are just cancer.Every enemy they've added post launch has been more cancerous than otherwise, aside from the trygon I guess.
>>2999237>necronsGenestealers
>>2999237It was a genestealer cult
Heavy better get a power fist option in year three after what they’re making possible with the Tactical rework
I don't care for any of the y3 champion packs desuI just want storm warden heraldry
>>3000079I'm probably not going to hop on the Exorcist train just yet, that orange just isn't doing it for me.I'll read their book and then see if I come around to it because I love the concept but the color, man
>>3000092Agreed about the red, although fwiw Exorcists in official art run the gamut from that orange-red featured in the community update to a cherry-red like in pic related to a deep red or rust-red. The official color schemes Saber sets as the default for each chapter aren't necessarily the best or only match for them.
>>3000114I guess I can work with brighter Word Bearer styled red for my Exorcist.
>20 second "tutorial" segment>have to listen to the characters slowly piece together and announce to the players what to do to solve the puzzle while waiting for the button to become interactable, every time you play the mission>doesn't actually teach anything to someone who is new, because there is only one button to interact with so you cannot fail to do the right thing even if you don't understand what the characters are talking aboutHate Reliquary for its long, narrow corridors with little cover all you want, the real crime this mission commits is having an anti-tutorial
>>3000353>>doesn't actually teach anything to someone who is new, because there is only one button to interact with so you cannot fail to do the right thing even if you don't understand what the characters are talking aboutThis was unironically me when the game came out and I was a Warhammer n00b. Had no fucking idea what the buttons were doing or that I was doing them wrong. To be fair there was so much going on I didn't see the symbols in the Heldrake room either.
I'm trying the new heroic chainsaw but I find it so slow and really unoptimal. It also has some weird parry windows compared to something like the block axe.
>>3000405>new heroic chainsaw>some weird parry windows compared to something like the block axeYou're placeboing, they're both block weapons. Same parry window for both.>I find it so slow and really unoptimalYou should see the other non-fencing chainswords then, this one is the fast old version that everyone loved before they rebalanced fencing/balanced/block.Also wouldn't call the white scars chainswords new considering it's two updates and thus 4 months old.
>>3000423It just feels super inconsistent compared to the Argent Edge. By slow, I mean the kill times are terrible. I can whale on a warrior for 30 seconds and it doesn't incap. The only thing that can generate 3 stacks before attacking is the rav too.
>>3000522>It just feels super inconsistent compared to the Argent Edge. Ardent edge has the same window for parry as block weapons have for blocking.>By slow, I mean the kill times are terrible. I can whale on a warrior for 30 seconds and it doesn't incap.Do you use shoulder bash? The white scars chainsword has pretty good kill times compared to other melee weapons without block stacks, but it really shines when you get 2+ stacks.>The only thing that can generate 3 stacks before attacking is the rav too.You shouldn't feel limited by needing 3 stacks, 2 is usually quite fine if you're just in the middle of a fight, but I also never struggle to find opportunities to pick up block stacks mid-combat. You can do it quite nicely from minoris enemies swarming you and then hit the majoris instead, and all melee majoris/extremis enemies will hit you with chains of attacks pretty fast if you let them.
The upcoming Frost Axe is balanced right?
>>3001606Unless its a 200%+ damage buff its dead content
>>3001697Jesus both melee heroics are Balanced. This is going to be a quick update before I fuck around with Darktide's new patch.I wonder what amount of bullshit the Crucible Mode is going to feature.
>>3001710>both melee heroics are BalancedFfs... is this confirmed?
>>3001697>>3001710Forgot imagePower axe has the lowest combo DPS out of all the melee weapons.
>>3001723I've seen similar screenshots before with some combat data. Is this from a website in the OP or sth?
>>3001723It's explicitly the parry-stick of melee since power wave is the only damaging thing about it, and the overhead slice after I guess.That buffed whirlwind damage has to be Fencing Heroic Power Fist levels of buffed to make it worthwhile.>>3001719From the community update last week, yes.
>>3001733https://sm2meleecalc.us/
>>3001754God Bless, Brother.
Are the Chaos-approved steroids any good Brothas?
Looks like more goodies are on its way for bulwark. Switching banners heraldry will also be very nice.
>>3002507LETS FUCKING GO
How are you supposed to unlock Chaos skins for siege when nobody plays PvP
>>3002803cheat engine
>>3002808not him but leman's table can't unlock those or I messed sth up trying to do it
Plasma is fucking amazing in pvp
>>3001723its the only melee weapon with good light attacks and a good sprint attack. the heavy attacks are just for staggering and hitting more targets
>>3002803Seek the aid of the AllfatherNo more vatnik bullshit
why did the other chaos relic skins come as random model bits and upgrades then the world eater vanguard skin is a halfassed temu kharn the betrayer with a shittier helmet and no tassets
What time is the update?
>Prestige3>Random for XP bonu->You've been kicked>You've been kicked>You've been kicked
Unless the tool tip for the "collect shining orbs to get buffs" condition neglects to mention this, there seems to be a positive bug in the new weekly.You get slow passive healing sometimes that starts off as contested health that just becomes red health eventually.
stop queueing absolute you shitter.
>>3004202Tomorrow around 11:00 CET
New bread?
>>3005408Need an hour.
A new Battle-barge has arrived Brothers.>>3005616>>3005616>>3005616
>quick match first crucible for bonus xp>chaos mission of course>3rd guy leaves>2nd guy leaves in the second to last area>AI director fucks me in the last area>hand pick a nid op for second mission>3rd guy chain dies constantly the entire op like it's the little brother's turn on the xbox>me and 2nd guy get fucked by the AI director in the second to last areaYeah. Fuck this actually.
Leman Russ finally delivers
>>3015313Finally, I can finally melee in gravis in a couple more patches.I'll take it as step on the staircase to an eventual terminator class.
