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Has the snaphook always been red/orange here?
>>3006797damn I guess it has and I've just never noticed it, weird
I'm hype for Frozen Trails
>>3007812I am more hyped for the skills and augments they promised they were going to rework.
>>3007855skills are going to be a nothing burgeraugments I wonder if they're even going to touch
>>3008689I thought they said they were working on augments but maybe they meant it in a more general sense and not specifically for the new update like the skill tree.
holy shit what happened to this game over the span of a yearwhy are these threads so dead
>>3011977No contentTalked all there is to talk aboutDo you want somebody to rehash pvp vs pve for the millioneth time again?
>>3011977>why are these threads so deadPeople got raped out of it, I shot thousands in the back in very friendly lobbies8=====Э
>>3011977its just not goonable, and not a lot to talk aboutthats what all the other successful generals have, like we all get it>I killed a rocketeer!yea, I've probably killed like 100 or more
Hi, I'm a tired dad gamer in his late thirties.I really wanted to like Arc Raiders, and for a while I did. I find the setting and base playstyle super compelling. Here's the catch. I work a job, I take care of my kids, and I find myself with only an hour or so a night to game. I found myself taking 2-3 days to farm the resources needed to achieve a respectable trial score, making my run in my typical friendly oriented lobby, and then making a heart-pounding adrenaline-fueled extraction as someone tries to kill me at the elevator. That or I would die and I lose several days of progress in a blink. It would ruin my night of sleep, and I found myself asking: "Why am I doing this to myself?"Maybe a younger me with less responsibilities would be able to enjoy this more. Now, though, I'm uninstalling.
stale pasta
>>3011977>why are these threads so deadBasically this >>3012047 and probably the fact that there's a literal pedo trying to bait people posting his idiotic takes
>>3012745The fact that thsibait was probably copied from an earnestly meant r*ddit post and is entirely believable shows how utterly GAY the Arc Raiders community is
holy fuck I am so fed up with the rocketeers fucking heatseaking missiles they used to be fun to fight when you could juke them but embark just has to go and buff ARC to such an extent that they're not even fun to encounter anymore
>>3013072it's actually worse than that
>>3013185>another episode of some retard dying to the same ark and pulling esoteric reasons out of his ass
>>3012745KWAB
>>3013185yea, I've had to fight rocketeers in buildings with 2 doors nowits so annoyingor they get you through the smallest crack, or the most awkward angle
>ARC Raiders is going free for Frozen TrailOHOHON ONONONO HAHAHAHA HOLY DEAD GAME
>>3014087oh just a free couple of days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBimLM3HzA0new documentary is UP
fart raiders
damn no one gave a fuck about the dogshit new dev update
That initial 4 month roadmap from the New Year really seemed like a mistake. It set up this rapid, triple-A content cadence that could not be maintained by a double-A studio while also sorting out all the other issues like cheaters, resets, and reworking systems like Expedition and Trials. That content schedule also set player expectations too high for the pacing moving forward, leading them to get burned in May when Frozen Trail was announced to be 5 months out.I know hindsight is 20/20, so this reads like a smart-assed comment, but even in January I would've been more excited to see a big expansion dated months out, with some Expedition and Trials stuff sprinkled between.
>>3015542Update will do big numbers and when every streamer is playing it and showing off the new guns via ascension people will forget all about their rage. Also F2P.
With F2P and returning players, the lobbies will surely be mixed and almost like launch lobbies.
>>3015881maybe the pvpfags can shut the fuck up then
>>3015881they will be, but for an almost artificially short while considering how much more gayer the algo is
>>3015542snail in /arg/
>>3015881can you imagine the incoming seethe from PvE players?they'll have to contend with """rats""" for 5 whole days before they're saved by the PvE toggle
>>3016626"saved" is an extremely strong word there
>>3016623That's a yummy, innocent lil snail. Mmm
>>3016960
raider bros we are so back
SHIT GAME FULL OF FUCKIN DICK'EADSI HATE IT HERE IN FUCKING SPERANZAI'M GLAD THERE ISN'T SHIT TO DO AND THE COMMUNITY IS DYINGUNINSTALLED AGAIN
>having to uninstall gamespoorfag lmao
>>3018073yeah I'm thinking we hitting 100k on the 8th
increase in pvpniggers today
>>3018192huh? are you Euro?my games have always been friendly and matches seem pretty full, I guess there is no playercount in match to know for sure
>>3017810I know you're feeling lost, it's ok, I'll find you and
actual ded gaem
fuck off pvpedonigger
>>3018637stop giving him attention moron
>>3018637Listen to your boyfriend >>3018643
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1wvpbui/im_getting_bored_of_playing_alone_hope_the_beta/
>slaying some arc without the fear of getting shot by other raiders>my kids and my girlfriend don’t like to play because we get killed all the time so we’re all pumpedAfter the PvE beta is over, I'll be back to rape you
>>3018662PvEtards are in for a rude awakening when they realize the psychology of teaming up with randoms in a dedicated PvE lobby will be a fundamentally different experience from teaming up with people who deliberately decide not to shoot themBut honestly I don't think it ever was about teaming up, or working with other players. They want to play purely solo where other players can't bother them AT ALLBut then they're in for the second rude awakening which is the loot goblin infestation. They're going to have to share everything as PvP wont be there to act as deterrence
>>3020440>game is basically a psychological sandbox>faggots who bitch and moan about "fairness" infest>devs bend the knee>game is ruinedi blame everyone involved
>>3021014many such casesmodern gaymers are a joke
>game is ruinedseems fine to me
>pveslop with shit progressionwhy even bother
works on my machine
lmao how do people lust over this monkey-faced woman
>>3022552wtf she looks really bad at this angle
>>3022552her hair is usualy cuter, that just looks bad
>>3022773it's her face, she looks like a planet of the apes character bro
>>3022825yea, I think its both, its weird
>>3022552WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
>>3022552they nerfed celeste
>>3022552Where is this from, some early promotional material?
>>3024581https://x.com/ARCRaidersGame/status/2106778898876809696
>>3022552motion capture and face scanning was a mistake
pvp players will kill arc raidershttps://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1wy1lb2/the_flaws_of_unrestricted_pvpve_systems_exposed/
>>3025042>pvpve is divided into two types of players>pve players>and pvp playerskek and here come all the >BUT IM PVPVEtrollswho kept making bad faith replies and saying stuff like "yea I quit 6 months ago, heres my retarded opinion anyway"
>pvpve game>no there aren't any pvpve playersabsolute state
>>3024735oh what the actual fuckI'm guessing the real reason is because all the voice actors in the industry made some sort of unionif you guys have played other games its definitely noticable3 most recent example are all the fucking ugly character in that new Wolverine 2 game, turns out they used the voice actors facesthem changing Peter Parkers actor in the Spiderman games because they changed his voice, and all voice actor contracts now have them including their likenessand then that BLACK LADY (associated with sweet baby ibc, that DEI company) in every fucking modern game now, where she just plays herselfseriously guessing it has to do with that
>NOOOOO PVE WILL KILL THE GAME>Despite every single extraction shooter having a PvE mode even Tarkov
>>3025189>Wolverine 2meant to type Wolverine 2026
>PvP players will kill the game>PvE players will kill the gameboth of these statements are truet. enlightened centrist PvPvE player
>>3025216>split a whole in halfyeah that's essentially what we have nowppl just game the system and whine at the threat of it being taken away
>>3025227you forget about the pvpve larpers who have totally been playing mixed lobbies this whole time, only they dont exist because of ABMM, except they do exist when its conveinent for a larp post, except they dont exist because Embark is evil and made ABMM also the game is dead so there are no players, also pve will kill this game and remove pvpve lobbies that totally existalso I quit playing 6 month ago
>>3025257are you like retarded or something?
>>3025280he is
>>3025280>>3025294just noticing all the bad faith arguments start falling apart>"I only play pvpve in mixed lobbies">"actually there are no mixed lobbies because of ABMM">"actually I quit this 6 months ago so I wouldnt know how the game is now"and other inconsistencies that make it seem like bad faith trolls parrotting what they read on reddit
>>3025301>mixed playerbase drops from 40% to ~20ish%each and every single one of them is correct and you are the troll here
>>3025305>a-actually you're the trolllol
>>3022552this is who they are modelling her after
>>3025189>all voice actor contracts now have them including their likenessYeah I can see no way that this will backfire. Voice acting was the refuge for people who are good at acting, but not good or unusual looking enough to hack it as a actual actors. In short, the kind of mid face you immediately forget upon seeing, like the horse face lady. Watch as looking good or fitting for the role now becomes a requirement for voice actors as well. >>3025192Yeah I don't get the seething at all. Most PvE cripples would simply quit the game alltogether eventually and aren't anything more than moving targets anyways. I get not wanting gruelling Tarkov PvP, but you need to have a legit disability to be unable to deal with Arc PvP.
>>3025441yea, voice actors want to be famous for their likeness now
>>3025355
>>3025355>>3025640she looks alrightI'm not some incel who goes>1/10 wouldnt fuckbut that rendered haircut didnt do much to help
>>3025649She's just okay, not ugly but not attractive. The character model is a clear downgrade though, and I already didn't think celeste was particularly good looking to begin with, she always had a weird face, I can't put a finger on it
NEW TV SHOW
>>3025441>I get not wanting gruelling Tarkov PvP, but you need to have a legit disability to be unable to deal with Arc PvP.Arc PvP is more obnoxious because of the flare system, and never ending spawning of people until 16 mins leading to many 3rd partying unless you quickly hatch out.
>>3025691someone said she looks like ben shapiro, I can kind of see it
>>3025719>not a FINALS themed game show like Wipeout, Takeshi's Castle, or Ninja Warriormeh
>>3025719sounds fucking stupid
just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki6rkrTSGm4
>>3026158>it says pvp on the boxlol
Pure pvp is indeed bad. If you just queue stella over and over again and play like you're in team deathmatch you're playing the game wrong.
>>3026173As if cupboard opening sim is better in any conceivable way.Mixed lobbies are dead and dying even further as time goes on.
>>3026216If you don't partake in pve you're ignoring 95% of the game lil guy. It's always been a cupboard opening sim.
>>3026226What the fuck are you talking about? Nobody is ignoring pve because that's where most loot comes from. Even if you do pure pvp you physically can't ignore it.
>>3026234Playing on stella as tdm is what I'm talking about silly, I already said that
>>3026226>>3026290hey retardit says PvE on the box
>>3026299meant for >>3026234
>>3026290Stella tdm is more pvpve than pve is in this game man.>>3026303>t. moron
>>3026305you're really struggling to shitpost
>>3026305Wow, you're actually a fucking idiot
Every time I open the game it's stella night. I guess it makes sense because it seems to be every other hour that has it, what the fuck
>>3026835Has to be because it is popular and people love it on both sides. PvE because it is an endless loot farm and PvP because it is an endless TDM until the spawns stop kicking in.
Game sucks just play Tarkov lol
>>3025042>writing this much to bitch about the most obvious and least interesting dynamic of the gameand to think LLMs are trained heavily on reddit
>>3027550Tarkov is updating for the next 7+ niggaThough props to Arc for getting me into it, I still play it some times on days like these.
Call of Duty DMZ players want PvE!! Killing pve players is not fair!
>cod>r*ddityep, pvpedo strikes again
FINALLY THE TRAILERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjiJDylLdZA
>>3029801whyd they make celeste ugly??? itd be one thing if they made her old because she should be old because she was part of the first wave. but no, they made her ugly. lol.
>>3029818voice actors are now making the argument that their likeness should be used ingames and they deserve to be celebrities and liked too, like every other actor
>>3029818>>3029824see>>3025355>>3025640
>>3029827>>3029824yeah but the VA is prettier than the in game model so they made her ugly for no good reason.
>>3029832thats just a limitation of it being a videogame at that pointpersonally I think its her haircut, obviously they tried to make her look older hence the wrinkles
>>3026855I have no fucking clue why stella is the go to for PvP. Its tight, everyone rushes lobby and then instantly eats shit because guess what there is 20 other people also rushing lobby, and the counterplay/flanking chance is 0, cause theres only like 3 areas you can somewhat secure in lobby. Id argue buried city is better pvp because theres more variety, its not just fucking bobcats and volcanos, but theres still spots for close in work. Also you can actually leave with your loot sometimes.Spaceport and blue gate are too open for the entire map. Riven tides is actually fun PvP because theres enough arc that you have to actually account for them in any firefight, which is why the average queue time for pvp in riven tides is 10 minutes, cause the average pvpfag wants to play the game like its COD and has no idea of the enjoyment of using a lure grenade to send arc to kill a dude hiding in cover.
>Matriarch still not firing missilesEmbark...
Remember to spend all your cred, it's going bye-bye
>>3029866>I have no fucking clue why stella is the go to for PvP.>cause the average pvpfag wants to play the game like its CODwell you said it right there. smoothbrained CoD tpyes.
>>3030811maybe they are getting shot and blowing up immediately
>>3031438oh shit thanks
peanuts streaming again
>>3032069Peanut left arc raiders to be in fortnite fuck him
>>3032069holy shitI forgot how funny he was
I hate zoomers so fucking much
GOOP GOOP GOOPLMAO
>>3022552Is it bad that I actually find her cute?
>>3032790yes
>>3032790no, her actress is cute>>3025355>>3025640
>anvil is going to be come blue (rare) with Frozen TrailBUY BUY BUYINVEST IN ANVIL STOCKSBUY BUY BUY BEFORE THEY INCREASE THE PRICE AND CRAFTING RECIPE
>>3034107>anvil is going to be come blue (rare)that's one way to nerf it
>>3034107early preview of update tomorrowhttps://youtu.be/NZYFpvNuCiU?is=Ow_ZiExion6n2gKf
>>3034238>renegade doesn't have mag slot nowhmmm
new skill tree is UPhttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/skill-builderlooks like the only new additions are the final slots of each tree, the rest of it is just shuffled old skillsSecurity Breach still seems like the best one though>Nomadic Craft>more craftable items in raidgarbage, there is barely anything worth crafting in a raid aside from like ammo>Field Repair>repair gear up to 30% in raidgarbage, nobody loads into a raid with less than like 70% durability on their gun. I don't run out of durability often enough for this to be worth>Wall Run>sprint up a wall for a bitcould be big depending on how much vertically it gives you>Sprinting on Fumes>lets you sprint without staminacould be a nice QoL but meh>Security Breachsame as before, just free high tier items, kind of a nobrainer>Weapon Bash>melee with your gunhonestly should just be a base mechanic>Bull Rush>the Finals shoulder chargethis is either going to be OP, or completely uselesshonestly a bit of an nothing burger skill tree updatethey've just made getting the best skills more annoying as they're more spread out now
>>3034505yeah really disappointed it took them 6 months for nothing burger skills. melee with a weapon, really? or the damn timing window skill when dropping from heights. wtf??? when was the last time anyone even meleed with a pickaxe in a non-meme use case? fucking hell. at least the parkour skill tree sounds fun, not sure if useful but fun at least.
>>3034505here's your meta tree guys
>>3034505>Sprinting on Fumes>damage cancels the skillso uh, nobody's gonna use this shit right?
>>3034654looks about rightEmbark are such a joke when it comes to balancing
>>3034673I probably will, there are a good amount of times I have to sprint across the map at the start or end of a match and end up using a full stack of adrenaline. I guess if you're in nigger lobbies you won't use it though. Wall jump is also useless when you have a snaphook anyway.
>>3035452>only concern is getting to a loot spot fasteri'm sure your input is invaluable in the grand scheme of things
>>3035675When the fuck is a step or two on a wall useful? The snaphook exists.
>>3034654>another dogshit melee node at the end of the skill tree when bobcats can beam you from 50m outhaha lmao 6 months to shuffle around the skills and add some useless skills
>>3035684extra gear cost, extra util slot, uses up energy bar (which we have more uses for now)most certainly keeps your weapon unholstered and ready for action, and possibly even during the wall run itselfalso realistically speaking you're not pulling out the hook for every place>but what about pvenobody worth their salt gives a shit about skill trees for pve, they always were the dedicated security breach cucks and it hasn't changed much>>3035712technically it's not all bad but most of your actually important skills are now the big nodes, small nodes are still either flavour shit or stats too good to pass upspeaking of, nobody in their right mind would be skipping green branch now, shit just has half the S-tier shit moved into itthe melee node is a meme, that much is true.
is anyone excited
>>3036057No dude I couldn't give a fuck
>>3036059what the fuck!?!?!
>>3036057players are returning whether or not haters want to admit it
>>3035758>uses up energy bar (which we have more uses for now)energy regens very fast, that's a non-issue>also realistically speaking you're not pulling out the hook for every placefair if you keep it stuffed in your asshole I guess, but it's too good for movement to do not use it all the time. just watch how valliate uses it, it's insanely good>nobody worth their salt gives a shit about skill trees for pveI do, and looting/pve is the main part of this extraction shooter, the entire point is to gather what you can and get out>they always were the dedicated security breach cucks and it hasn't changed muchbringing your fetish out of no where is fucking weird, man. almost as bad as god damn furries.
>>3036057I am. Still butthurt about the dogshit skills though. New weapons look cool.
>>3036057I'm curious but I really need like 4 big Arc bosses on par with Matriarch and it's not happening any time soon.
Is it up yet.
>>3037125FIVE MINUTES
PATCH NOTEShttps://arcraiders.com/news/frozen-trail-2-0-update
>>3036057pvpedonigger might be
>Moved higher tier loot from the armor pieces of the legs to the legs pieces for Queen and Matriarch.>The armor plates are supposed to protect the legs, so it made sense to relocate the loot to the protected area. Having the loot inside the armor took away from the experience and was inconsistent with how other ARC work. Armor pieces can still contain some loot.uh oh stinkythey made getting Queen and Matriarch cores harder
>>3037303>Reworked the explosive damage formula for ARC. In practice this means that explosive weapons like the Hullcracker will deal over 50% more damage against armor plates but around 30% less damage against more fragile parts.ANOTHER HULLCRACKER NERFPvEtards are not gonna like this one
>>3037311>Reduced Snap Hook range from 20m to 18m, increased durability consumption from 2% to 4% per use, and raised power cost from 50 to 60.snaphook nerfed to encourage use of the new grappling hook
>>3037311>Fixed an unintended behavior where the Jupiter's damage would propagate twice to ARC parts behind its intended target. As a result, the Jupiter is now stronger against armor, but slightly weaker against weak spots.JUPITER ALSO NERFED
>Tian Wen will no longer sell Anvil and Hullcracker offers. They will, instead, be part of the weekly Nomadic Envoys rotation.I surely hope you bought Anvil stocks
>>3037311>>3037336deserved, hc should've ate dirt multiple patches ago
For the Xisters playing the game
>>3037343new kos skin, sick
THEY WANT 30 YUROS FOR THE NEW SEThttps://store.steampowered.com/app/5201760/ARC_Raiders__Frozen_Trail_Collector_Set/WTF
>here's your new Celeste, broyou still want to give her your seed, right?
finally we can drop items directly to the ground took them long enough
PEANUT IS STREAMING
>>3036057>nothing fixed + some new contentwho cares
>>3037474unironically yeah, it's what I fearedthere are SOME good balancing changes and mix ups, like buffing heavy shields, nerfing a couple of guns and the whole skill tree rework (even if it doesn't really change anything)but the game needs a more drastic shake up than thisjust IMAGINE, we're going to be stuck with this for 6 more monthsthere are STILL not enough systems in the game that encourage replayability so 2 months from now we'll be back to "there's nothing to do in the game", when the map has gotten old
>>3037478no, shield change is dogshit because they should've polarized the shields, not homogenize them further, nobody sane cares for "medium shield+", something that could have been a shield attachmenteverything else ranges from "meh" to "it's alright"also, elephant in the room>abmm is still in the gameso the main issue of people just loot goblining with 0 threat expending the newly released content didn't go anywhereshit's gonna get solved in 2 months and the next expeditions it's gonna be the same>log in>do expo>log offi'm gonna fuck around for a bit and leave ig cause the gameplay loop is completely sissified for shitters
>>3037311https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x0npf3/hullcracker_is_no_longer_purchasable_and_the_ammo/AND HEREWE GO
>>3037568never listen to casualtards, they WILL ruin your game
>forgot one of the rewards
trials rewards this seasonred is cantina legendyellow is hot shot
enjoy wasting your premium pass currency :^)
>>3037637meant to respond to >>3037609:^(>>3037613that's pretty sexy
>>3037637the legacy pack is free
the frigate is cool but it seems to just be a source for weapon mods mats
I forgot how hilarious Peanut is
Lol lol
>>3037909kekaroojust bring a snaphook or grappling hook, you can bypass every single puzzle on it
>>3037920I'm a busy father of three black children, my wife is white. Don't let lncels shoot me. Add a pure PvE mode
>>3037484>still angy at ABMMok see ya
>>3037951>ignores the objective fact that ABMM speeds up progression>whines about no content in the same breaththanks retard
Damn you faggots LOVE nerfing everything
>>3037311>it now takes 3 shots for the rascal to take out 1(uno) fireball
>>3038060powercreep is ass
>>3038065Umm if you want powercreep go play helldivers 2, arc raiders is for real struggle gamers that love the same game's difficulty being artificially inflated over and over in response to a lack of content volume
>>3038069Ass Raiders
>>3038069nerfcreep is for hardcore gamers
>>3038073Im mostly just shitting on the rascal, why the fuck does it take 2 shots to take out a fireball(a ferro takes 1 btw) while also costing only 3k less than a hullcracker.Honestly I was kind of hoping theyd make it cheaper to upgrade or at least make it do as much damage as the hullcracker, bur apparently theyre just nerfing both of them.Also is the helldivers 2 schizo still fucking here?
>>3038106I haven't played in a while but just watched Peanut use a Rascal IV and was blown away at how weak it is. What is the point?
Wait a minute why did they make celeste uglier? Who asked for that?
The Bantam is genuine garbageIt cant even destroy a Wasp's rotor with one shot, and there is an annoying delay when clicking and it firingWorthless gun and you might as well just use a Ferro
>hit 100k playerswe are so back
I assume the game will be full of gun-ball poorfags ratting everyone until the free trial is over. I don't really feel any desire to even jump into the game, probably just need a good break.>>3038118It should be a green tier weapon in which cost to build and maintain is the same as green Anvil was.
>>3038106>is helldivers 2 schizo stillmore than likely celebrating the nerfs and begging for more
>>3038124>that dev that said he prefers it over the anvilI want what they are smoking
>>3038275I genuinely cannot see how anyone could prefer it over the Anvil, or as said, a Ferro
>>3038326
>>3038334yea that was just corpo talk for how much they love the update
>>3038365definitely
>>3038326so literally everything>>3038360thats what I kind of assumed it would be
>>3038382yeah anything new they've added is pretty much just required to keep
>>3037979>>whines about no content in the same breath no i didnt you schizo
>Reduced Snap Hook range from 20m to 18m, increased durability consumption from 2% to 4% per use, and raised power cost from 50 to 60.>As we added more personal mobility items, it became clear we needed to begin differentiating them to a greater degree. While the Snap Hook has previously been a ‘general use’ mobility gadget, with the introduction of the Grappling Hook, we felt the need to give them their own identity outside of a ‘linear upgrade’ path. With these changes, we aim to make the Snap Hook better fit its role as being a burst mobility gadget; something that is used to quickly close distance or traverse a location, but with more commitment when doing so. The power cost increase will still allow for multiple uses within a short time when at full power, but will no longer allow for immediate back-to-back uses.I want to strange the dev that thought this needed to be done.
>>3038522you will use the craphook :^)
The Frigate fucking sucks. It's just Rocketeer and Vaporizer spam
Ooooh I get it, they called it the "craphook" in the game files because it was going to make the snaphook a steaming pile of shit.
>>3037366I mean it comes with the bp as well
>>3037366that gives $20 of cashop currecnylearn some girl math and know that means its only $10
I'll give it the weekend but I think I had enough
>win 2 rounds in a pvp duo>immediately get put into cheater lobbiesgreat game guys
>>3038814PvEfags are a protected class, please understand
>>3038834>it's either a fetch sim or you play against godcats with wh and aimbot>excluding like 1-2 rounds inbetweenhorrendously abysmal game
Could they not prompt Celeste the same again? Wtf.
watching some streams and how are you supposed to do the frigate solo? even in pve raids the thing seems impossible.
>unlock the new resarch workshop>it completely fucks up my workshops orderHOLY FUCKING SHIT EMBARK GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER
>>3038997I genuinely can't tell what you're even supposed to doAll I've done on it is run around and breach those canisters that drop those new orange tier modular crafting item thingsIt's really not that interesting, but, maybe there is more to it
Holy shit I'm fast as fuck boys.
>>3039004I think everyone needs to destroy the big ass pylons. But after that idk what happens
is the new update good? worth reinstalling?
>kill a bastion by myself in spaceport day raid>looting it>some guy comes along and starts looting too>ask him to stop twice>radio silence and keeps looting>down but don't kill him (probably didn't have survivor)>queue dam day raid next>flares going off a bit>see dead bodies>finally head to extract with no confrontations>going through water treatment looking for more basic mats before heading out>get ambuhsed while my head is stuffed in a locker>kill the faggot while he reloads>hear another flare go off as a get to extraction>small flying arc were there so not sure if it was a person or not>remember I have a hatch key and sprint for the southwest hatchanyway this was the dude that tried to kill me, fucking hilarious
>>3039000you can replace them in orderit's unintuitive, but you can.
Embark has nerfed weapon durability/repair efficiency twice now, and both times players just could not press two brain cells together to fathom why. They take it as a personal attack on their capability to enjoy the game, rather than an informed balance decision based on a year of collected and compiled data on player stashes and how they use/lose weapons.
>>3040047challenge is bad? it's just not fun
>>3040047you suck embark's dick to the bone on every nerf fuck you and the swiss
>>3039557Not really. Frigates neat for a couple runs andddd thats about it. Loot pool has been flooded with even more useless garbage, skill tree "rework" was basically "take all the useful perks in one tree and split them up so now you have to be level 50 to not feel like a cripple instead of level 25", the new guns that were added are almost a downgrade from grey weapons.Also headsup dont take the quick roll perk, it doesnt actually move you far enough to dodge hornet taser/wasp shots so they will hit you every single time. Just take the useless mine perk instead.
>>3040047>players just could not press two brain cells togethertragically, it's a common trope
>>3040294without challenge everything is hollow
How the fuck do you do this? I've went everywhere along the highways on blue gate and cannot find shit. I know that eye in the picture is baelgunn's hideout, but nothing was there either
>>3041327Okay, found it in a new raid. It's a pile of rocks on the ground that glow. Must've not triggered last raid because I spawned at the collapse.
I really love the new extracts on Pendola. They're so much fun, and them not having some random timer is nice too since it lets you stay in the raid for longer
Forgot how fucking dark this game is
I survived the new map. Lotsa ARC but I snuck through. Some guy with a real bad speech impedement was standing on one of the Emperor map point, cylinders, telling me how to open the Emperor and I didnt understand anything so I said “ok I’ll leave you to it” and ran away. Then nearby someone called in the extract rocket so I hitched a ride in another pod to gtfo. These updates are exciting I guess and the new skill tree and abilities are interesting but at the same time idk if I care enough to play again.
>>3040523>Also headsup dont take the quick roll perk, it doesnt actually move you far enough to dodge hornet taser/wasp shots so they will hit you every single time. Just take the useless mine perk instead.Ah shit
>>3038939Dude Celeste looks fucking BEAT now lmao. Completely boggedIt’s joever
>>3038522Fucking swiggers nerfed one of the most fun things in the damn game for no reason>>3038122To glaze the voice actress they remodeled after her, but the new face is fucking ugly in shop and looks like ps2 graphics or something. Just bring back the old cutie pie version>>3025640>>3025355She’s beat. Why dont we just remodel every other character to their voice actor while we’re at it>>3037322We gotta nerf the legendary railgun guys!
>>3041491>Why dont we just remodel every other character to their voice actor while we’re at itcurrently what the entire industry is doing
I have been reminded of why I dont do the shit tier quests in this gameThey just clogs up the stash and finding the items is just pure RNG. It's frustration through and through
>>3041445i think they did something with the darkness so you cant cheat it by turning the contrast on your monitor up.
>One of the end cap skills is a charge that stuns for maybe half a secondlmao, i know they said they will still change and work on skills based on feedback and metrics but man to even think that this suck ass skill is perfectly fine in the first place, you have to be retarded. if someone somehow gets within pickaxe range and rams you, you deserve to get stunned for an eternity.
how the shit do you get research points for the research table
>>3041676nevermind, you gotta hand in a bunch of books
>>3041524I'm curious as to how this is going to backfire. I didn't think it was a bad idea for voice actors to unionize and no longer get shafted on the pay, but in true american fashion they have to add some childish narcissist attention seeking immediately. Not a good idea if you have a face made for the radio.
>>3041641light stock vulcano
I already miss the anvil, now I need the blueprint since I cant buy sparesor just buy the renegade
>>3042101at the moment it cant backfirewhat are they going to do, hire talent instead? just not an option when that is the talent
>>3042366Have fun farming drills
if your new random workshop order is driving you insanehttps://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x1kvi3/i_figured_out_the_bench_order_so_you_dont_have_to/
This new map is so ass and B O R I N G.
>>3042440I already saved like 5 anvil blueprints on my altplus they added a system to grind for blueprints, I'm guessing its in there and I'll just play normally until I get it, havent touched my alts yet, the game is too fun
>>3041677Is that what the raider diary item is for?
>>3042593yes, all the new books can be turned in on the research station to get research points
Ok so how the fuck am I realistically supposed do exchange a bunch of matriarch cores and ARC parts for $200k of value for a single slot of expedition vault. That is fucking ridiculous. I have a shitload of purple ARC parts that are worth almost nothing and Legendary cores hardly add up themselves. Im not going to grind for like 20 fucking cores just to trade for a single vault slot. Why can’t I just pay $200k in coins?? What an infuriating Swedish system.
>>3043074Skill issue, unironically. You can easily kill two bast/bomb per raid and they give 4-9 parts each. Just passively collect them while you play.
Man, Embark's balancing is so freaking wackIt's easier to repair a Snaphook than a Grappling HookGrappling Hooks need one of those bolt cutters and as far as I know you have to find thoseEverything the snaphook needs can be crafted or bought from traders
>>3043074>I have a shitload of purple ARC parts that are worth almost nothingthey stack and are like 3/4 the cost of a queen coreI've literally only bought stuff from the trader with purple arc parts, you just have to size down the extra shit in your stash, even if its just temporary
>>3043157shut the fuck uplast time someone complained like this they removed the hullcracker and added the rascal to the gun trader
>>3043266>everything should be imbalanced as long as it benefits meshut'cho bitch ass up
Running on fumes is really good I don't care what anyone says. I ran from the southeast all the way to northwest of spaceport for a quest, which was like 1300m, without stopping. Shit would've taken more than a full stack of adrenaline without it.
>>3043592I want the wall run one too
>>3043266based embark dabbing on the arcbabies
>>3043136You're a faggot and this game is actual garbage
>>3043592Sounds satisfying after so many rounds of running to loot zones.
>nuke a bully solo>some faggot runs up to immediately loot the cores>dome his ass with an anvil>300 page long pvenigger rant>made him crawl to extractdon't you love to hear it
ngl watching streams of people doing the raids for level 5 weapons and the corresponding benches is pretty cool and a nice endgame grind sink. too bad it will filter most part timers like me but cool nonetheless.
>>3044826I have no idea how you can think the game is too hard lmao
>>3044962samehavent tried it myself, but looks hardhoping being in friendly lobbies helps
>>3043592>Running for 1km through spaceport without encountering an arcMe when I'm lying
This frigate is a fucking death trap and I refuse to watch a tuber tutorial.
>>3045523Doesn't matter. Nobody knows what to do and refuses to help each other. Haven't tried trios yet. But the team-killing team members in the past have stopped me from play trios.Infinite revives could help here
>>3045024>No video of doing the frigate solo from this tard LMAO another nogames larper
>>3045296watched symfuhny do it, a lot more involved than the boss arc and definitely a lot harder. kill a bunch of vapes and rocketeers alongside shooting a bunch of parts down. need so many health and ammo and extra shields. in the end, you have to make this little thing drop off the frigate as it falls down and you hop on it. 4 sided rectangle box, 2 sides full of containers. although ive seen the video from hutches POV and looks like there was some arc metal in them.lmao damn embark.
lmfaoseeing people in real time figure out Survivor is the best augment>"You know what, fuck it, lets drop survivor, and bring the biggest fucking pack with a lot of stuff and just grab everything">"Now I need something with a lot of slots, and a lot of carry weight">...
>>3045804Survivor doesn't have a lot of slots, what?
>>3046079weird shitpost
>>3045570What does the frigate have to do with farming bastions and bombardiers, retard?
PvE soon friends!
>>3046167nta but I assume he brought that up because its actually challenging
>>3046417I mean, challenging doesn't mean too hard either
>>3046436meant for >>3046167
>>3046440
>>3046436meant for >>3045570>>3046441there you goI have no dog in this fight, I was just clarifying what eeemed obvious
>>3046436Solo video of you doing the frigate incoming? I accept your concession after 5 minutes
>>3046454Meant for >>3046167
>>3046454So do you think I don't play the game or something? Is that what the nogames comment is meant to say? If you don't address the topic that was brought up initially (farming parts for vault slots) and keep bringing up the frigate, I will cease communication and accept your concession.
>deadline a bombadier>1 cell in the entire thingDid they nerf the bombadier/bastion cell drop rate as well? I know they nerfed the matriarch/queen core drop rate by 50%.
>>3046472Just unlucky, it happens sometimes
>>3046465Keep seething. I saw your retarded post talking about how this game is easy as shit. Congratulations on 833 hours sitting in the menu. >No solo video taking down the frigate Clearly not an easy game. I accept your concession, kill yourself.
>>3046493Do you even play the game? topside hours means topside hours. I also never said it was an "easy game" only that I don't see how someone can think it's too difficult.
>the 2 pvetrannies are bickeringamazing, please continue
>muh pvetardsthis is a pvpve game, moron
>>3046687it is, unfortunately the mechanics are subpar in that case.
Huh the explosive nerf applies to wolfpacks as well now, so it takes 3-4 wolfpacks to take out 1 rocketeer.
>>3046713okay
>>3046726Rocketeer? More like Rockequeer!
Wait, are we back?
>>3047256no, it's over.
this game is 2spooky im scared
>>3046726holy shit, the game is so hard and good now
I can see my outpost from here!
>>3046726Nerf Raiders!
I do not give a fuck about playing Raider Sims and decorating my Outpost using the clunkiest interface known to man. I do not care about weapon skins. I don't want to open more drawers for even more crap in Snow Riven Tides. I am tired of the weapon and item pool becoming even more diluted and then making up for this by nerfing the good stuff.What do you guys play when you are sick of Nerf Raiders? I am completely burned out.
>>3048592Doorwogs
>>3046726Jesus CHRIST
>>3043592So since the recovery phase is extended can you just bypass that with a single adrenaline after running 1k?
>>3048592gooner games
>>3049107I saw a streamer talking about it and thats what it sounds likehavent tried it myself
>>3049107>>3049165Yeah just use an adrenlaine and you're back to normal plus the boost from adrenaline. I only had one fuckup and it was when I got leaper aggro. It jumped on me and I couldn't dodge roll so it landed on me and yeah.
>>3046726don't tell r*ddit
Another successful night in Chungartha. Got some quests done, explored almost the entire frigate, got the research bench made and one of the extra outpost modules done.If we cant walk around the Outpost that will be extremely GAY
>>3050272>Chungarthaman, I really miss when ABMM was just a myth>If we cant walk around the Outpost that will be extremely GAYI think they've said we can't walk in it YET, so they're probably (hopefully) working on it
>>3050284ABMM just means that trigger happy retards get put into lobbies with similar trigger happy retards who are better than you. Mixed and carebear lobbies are much better.
Solo chung lobbies are cozy. I dont have skilled friends to go crazy in trios with though. I also dont have anything to gain from pvp at this point I have like 8 of each purple gun level 4
>>3046517keep going with your meltdown, schizo. it's hilarious kekhe hit the nail on the head, huh?
Does this game still have ABMM now that the PvE toggle is a thing?
>>3050676For now, yes.
i JUST REMEMBERthat dev said he has a hard time choosing the anvil over the bantamwhat a load of horse shit
>>3050695bantam is "neat" but nothing moreclose range dps is very good but you're not gonna use that often
>>3050701yeah why not just use a burletta? i guess the heavy ammo makes it more versitile than a burletta?
>>3050833pretty much
I knew I should wait to upgrade my outpost, apparently you can brick your game and choose an expansion that gives no extra storage
>>3050938wait what
>>3051027I forget the names but its something likeChalet room = gun rackstimeless room = regular random storage "putting stuff on display"panoramic room = no extra storageif you're just going for looks its whatever, but the meta is the gun racks so you can put guns and attachments for maximum storage space, I pve, so I might go timelessbut so far every feels like the panoramic room is uselessand you cant undo any of this
as someone who likes the game, i am trying to reoragnize my workbenches, and this outpost menu thing is horrible, like what the fuck
>>3051076oh so i bricked my first upgrade cool shit
>>3051087I'm guessing they'll change it later, but maybe you have a cool room to walk around inin 6 months
I LOVE MY CHUNG LOBBIES
I was on the side of "maybe just let the devs cook"but I finally rearrged my work benches so they were in the correct order, and they're in the incorrect order on the side, fuck these devs, it was fine before, now my muscle memory is ruined
>>3051083>>3051120so far I regret unlocking the outpost
>>3051083>>3051120>>3051132check >>3042451
>>3042451>>3051141this doesnt seem to help/explain why the horizontal UI is wrong
>>3051141>>3051145ok I rearranged the same furniture again and somehow its fixed, both horizontal and verticalso far worst thing about the entire game and if future expeditions have it reset, I just wont unlock this shit, I actually liked my comfy little room, now I dont even get to see my raider
>Frozen trail pass at 6>Complete a match>Gain xp to 11 or 12>Check frozen trail progress>Frozen trail pass at 6I'm stuck in fuckin groundhog day here, is this a known issue?
>>3051141Who the fuck approved this shit?!
>>3051245yea its a known issue
>>3051245yes, we're all stuck at like 6 or 7
>>3051583>6 or 7
>>3050676>>3050691>Same arc raiders experience but all the gay pussies have self-segregated to arcwitz drawer testing camp offline mode with cucked lootSounds better the more I think about it
>>3051732the main pro seems to be duos and trios finally getting "friendly" lobbies to kill arc and do queststons of people saying they can finally play the game with their friends besides pvp
So is the debris mode just waiting in place hoping the tube opens?
when does the pve only test happens, after the free trials?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x1h0ov/dont_build_a_panoramic_room_at_outpost_or_you_are/damn
>>3051076Panoramic room has a slot for a gun rack
https://www reddit com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x3dhim/outragrous_emperor_shortcut_that_can_finish_it_in/>2 showstoppers+grappling hook can skip the entire emperor dungeon>queue up 20 minutes ago for night raid (juicy target)>someone runs past me and joyfully says "yo yo what up what up!!">say hi and walk away>hear him unlock the emperor>I forgot where exactly the exit was since I only did emperor once before>waste like 5 minutes inside trying to find it>go out and around to the side>grapple up to the exit door>throwing one showstopper actually fucking opens it>works on the door at the top of the ladder too>inside the last loot room with all the best shit>start shooting the targets with a silenced pistol so the arc don't aggro on me>the guy starts coping audibly calling me a bastard>steal 75% of the loot by the time I hear the main door open>grapple up to the exit and make my escape>he hit me with one shot before I got away>nothin personnel>I was also rewarded for my evil deeds with a tempest blueprintfunniest shit I've ever seengo and do this quick before they patch it
>can research blueprintsbecause of this stupid bug I cant get the grappling hook blueprint, but at least with this new system I can craft itand now I have a goal for anvil blueprintshould add other rare blueprints people want though, like survivor and wolfpack, maybe some of the other augments toook update
>If you PvP you're braindamaged>if you PvE you're braindamaged>if you play both you're actually (aligned with whichever position i dont like)you people are actually miserable
>>3053727basedhonestly the game actually needs more of this shit, to actually incentivize shooting other players
How the FUCK are you supposed to know what items can be stored on what kind of furniture in the Outpost???
>>3054945I built a shelf and literally nothing came up when selecting Decorate, so I'm guessing only worthless Trinkets can put on it??
The faggot frigate makes Matriarch spawn less so I've dubbed the update a failure. Along with the outpost bloated nonsense.
>>3053727I JUST DID THIS SHITBROS GO DO THE EMPEROR BEFORE THEY PATCH THIS SHITYOU CAN LITERALLY JUST ENTER THROUGH THE EXIT AND SWOOP IN AND STEAL ALL THE SHIT BEFORE THEY'RE DONE WITH THE DUNGEON
Chalet was the best looking option of the group by far, if you picked anything else you deserve what your no aesthetics ass gets
>>3054251some people are just trolls invested in the game dying, you see it here and on reddit>I pvpve only>except lobbies are PvP or PvE and I HATE that>pve will kill this game>except I said earlier the lobbies are already seperated so there should be no difference>this game is so fucking shit and my opinion is important>btw I quit 6 months ago
>instead of fixing Ermal's timer>they just removed it
The restrictive stash is starting to become a liability with all these unstackable itemsIt's impossible to keep both necessary maintenance items and these rare crafting materials in the same stash
Anyone else get the super duper sekrit Frozen Trail survey on mail?>FROZEN TRAIL FIRST IMPRESSIONS>We're reaching out to a selected few Raiders to gather early impressions on the new Frozen Trail update of ARC Raiders.
>>3054947correct. there are some wall shelves that can store some crafting items, but that's completely pointless when you can use wall shelves to store up to 4 guns each, which is like 70 items per gun
>>3055507how lame, and yeah I suppose the outpost is only good for storing level 4 guns full of attachments I feel like it should exist to alleviate shit like this >>3055208
>>3055491>There are currently too many responses in progress. Please try again in a few minutes.bro why even invite me then
>>30555184 guns with all 4 attachments is only 20 slots of extra spacepve gets 16 slots with shelves, maybe more, this is all I had unlocked, so its not much of a difference, especially if you're a pvefag who doesnt hoard guns anyway
>>3055518>>3055555neverminddidnt read the post chain
>>3055555can you put whatever you want in those shelves?
>>3055557no idea, I assume it would be trinkets like ducks
you kill someone and loot this. do you feel bad for bullying the economically disadvantaged?
>>3055604nobut why would you waste your time killing someone using a stitcher UNLESS he attacked first and at that point it's too late for pity anyway
>new arc is kind of a rape machine that two shots you>restricted to spawning one at a time on a map with basically no other big threatsincredible game designwouldn't want the new update to be too hard for the dad goyimers!!!
Is there a single person who calls the new maps by their in game names, as opposed to riven tides and frozen trail?
Your son is definitely shooting hapless PVE players in the back when they least expect it.He can't properly articulate the why because he's ashamed to admit he's having a good time shooting "looters" in the back.A PVE mode will make the pvp lobbies more extreme, and likely thin out mixed lobbies.In pvp rounds, good loot is rarely found out looted because either everyone is so busy hunting other humans, or they know their chance of extraction with good loot is low. Furthermore, in pvp rounds, people bring in worse gear because they're not expecting to get out alive. So yea, your assessment is correct.I bet if you call him out for "having fun shooting innocents" in the back, he'll sputter and choke trying to defend himself. And like, if he wants to do that, sure that's technically a correct way to play. There's no rules against it, it's fair play. But I think on some level we can all agree it's kinda shitty.Embark isn't putting in a pve only mode for no reason; it's because The current "wild west" implementation isn't quite working how they want. So keep that in mind as well.
>>3055491>>3055526>Sorry, the maximum number of responses has been met. Thanks for your time!Yeah, thanks Embark
GETTING THAT DEADLINE BLUEPRINT
>>3055852isnt it called riven tides?>made me double check ingameidk anyone who calls pandola pass, "frozen trails" if anything I see more retards calling the update "frozen trials" and they call trials, "trails"
>>3055913
>>3056382thats what im saying. why would i go into the mode with less loot when abmm does its job perfectly well already? the people clamoring for pve are already not playing and the pve exodus will be overblown.
>>3056379>game has a ranked mode called trials>surprised people call frozen trails frozen trials
>>3056403because even a 1% chance of needing to defend yourself from other players is too much for the pvebab to handle. they need super special ultra segregated lobbies that go beyond what they've already been given. and they will demand more when they realize how fucking boring pve only is. then embark's obviously thinly stretched resources will be put to even greater strain.
>>3056414funny cause the only people crying are "pvp"fags, the type of people who think>the game is deadbut also>the game is going to die if they do Xand also>this will ruin the pvpve excperiencebut also>I havent played for half a year and have no idea what I''m talking about
>>3056408except those same retards aree calling trials, "trails"I normally give people some wiggle woom, I've been retarded before, I'm not some asshole who is going to jump at someones throat because they made a mistakeI just roll my eyes and comment on how illiterate everyone is nowadays
>>3056414ok but that wont affect me because those people are not playing the game right now and will be segregated in the pve only lobbies.
>>3056452that's even funnier because I distinctly recall thousands of pve players crying about "rats", as if shooting people in a shooting people game is a concept that humanity has never heard of before. And the crying was so tumultuous that the developers were swindled into thinking that disallowing shooting people in the shooting people game was a good decision to make.
>>3056484you mean the poeple who quit months ago and would only play a pve modeyea this mode is for them genius, and duos and trios that want to do quests and kill arc together
>>3056489How freeing it must be to simply operate like a 90IQ chimp and ignore verifiable reality, with thousands of historical references proving you wrong. pve players are the ones who complained, because they cannot stand having to play a game in a way they don't feel like.
>>3056515lol
pvpfags need some better representation>I cant wait for PvE tommorrow :D yaay>IM GOING TO TRY MY HARDEST TO RUIN YOUR TIME>STEALING YOUR LOOT>THROWING LURE GRENADES>YOU NAME IT, YOUR FUCKING PVE DAYS ARE NUMBERED>I love pvp btw
>>3056515Looks like you'll have to play with the other 3rd worlders
>>3056545third worlders only play f2p games like tf2 and dota
Got a score of 13,875 for opening containers and holy fuck I didn't think I'd make it. Had about 1:35 left when I hit the button and there was a bully right behind it. Got the button and tried to get away with cloak but I was already hit while getting to it and I think it shot me to bring me down.Had to crawl like 120m and almost exactly when I reached the gondola the timer ended. Wasn't sure how long they stayed since it hadn't happened to me with this extraction type yet but glad to see it stays for quite a while after, unlike the elevator doors which close 30 seconds after the game timer.
>>3056542One wonders why someone would do something they detested, if they didn't absolutely have to. This is like going on 4chan and complaining about porn, or going on reddit and complaining about getting banned for wrongthink.
man the frigate is impossible to do unless the whole lobby works together, wtf were they thinking with this shitthis shit takes too long, you gotta destroy all those cores, kill all ARC on the way bothering you, get inside, kill the main core, get outside, kill more ARC and then you STILL need to be at least 2 people detaching the cargoa guy and I were the only ones left when destroying the last core and we ran out of timeridiculous
>almost all amplified weapons range from shit to mid to not worth the investmentthe only thing worth is thermite rounds and situationally x-rounds and even then they are limited to 3 usable weaponsreserving judgement for fully modded aphelion, the 6-bust can theoretically saw a heavy shield user in halfequalizer has good mods but the base gun is so shit/niche that it doesn't really count
>>3056604>slug rounds 2 taps people>charged aphelion 1 taps people, fire damage cleans up killsjust say you're poor and shit at the game
>>3056618>slugsoh yeah i forgot that existed, idk didnt test yet>confirms that there's 2-4 usable amplificationsthanks tranny
>>3056577they were thinking it would be based for there to be an actual challenge. people in trios have completed the frigate. it is absolutely doable with an entire lobby. i am glad it is as tough as it is because the queen and matriarch is a joke. 6 deadmines or the entire lobby safely shooting the queen from a mile away in some shack. that is ridiculous. the frigate being tough is how it should be.
>>3056577they designed a pve raid dungeon and forgot to enable the toggle, so most retarded paint drinkers have absolutely no hope of completing it while it remains new and unknown
>>3056631>>3056639yes, I appreciate it being a challengeI don't appreciate it being literally impossible unless the RNG of the matchmaker doesn't give you a lobby full of mouth breathers
>hide in a building nearby until 10 minutes left>unlock the emperor with a key and use two hornet drivers to cheese into the loot room>nobody else around to contest loot
>>3056690amp weapons aren't that impressive tbfalso you're looking for the pressure thingies more than anything else for the ones that actually do something
>>3056696I aint lookin for shit bro
>>3056704>more than 50 amp cores>enough mats for 3 amped weapons topsnice haul kek
>>3056709post your own
>>3056716>misses the whole pointthe tranny can't read
>>3056690Enjoy the ban retard. Everyone who did this exploit will not be playing for 30 days
>>3056722alright lil bro>>3056724just like everyone who did the throwable exploit got banned? oh wait I just got this pussywhipped email saying you better not do that again, and nothing happened.
>exploit early and oft- ACK!reminder that dupers got banned
This should be illegal.
>do 8 stella montis>0 bastiandude come on
>>3056999wasnt that replaced with a vaporizor months ago?
>>3057007I thought it still spawns, I'm pretty sure I've heard it?, and I got a a new quest for it
>>305700710 games with 0 spawngot it on my 11th game
>>3057044So glad quests give EXP now.
>hey guys want to do the emperer?>you just bring 2 showstioppers and go in the back like thisbro
>>3057266Nice update Embark>nerfs entire weapon pool againAaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhahahahahahahaha
ez game
Oh the little intro trailer, neat.These motherfuckers locked a banjo behind a 30 dollar pack you god damned assholes.
>anvil is bluewhat>anvil is no longer in the shopwow I hate this
>hullcracker is no longer in the shop eitherI guess I have a reason to do quests again for the bp, but this update tax is fucking crazy
>>3057705I just used the ferro until I could craft the anvil blueprintcould probably use renegade, but I didnt feel like farming springs to keep repairing it, plus seems i could solo stuff better with ferro vs renegade
>"take a photo" quests now require you to take a picture with your camera>if you didnt bring your camera get fuckedSOVL
my first skin
>>3057761I'll consider that. I haven't gone topside yet, only level 2 and just settled on a build with my expedition skill points.
>>3057778I liked starting from scratch again and going>ok what do I wantand seeing the anvil blueprint in there so I had something to work towards, guess I'll do quests nowcrazy it needs 6 springs to repair now, hope you guys have a springs route figured outbut using it and being able to take down any arc, plus the rate of fire compared to the ferro and bantam, it does weirdly fel like it makes sense to a blue weapon, I didnt like it either, but i guess it is balanced
>>3057795I haven't used the bantam yet but I imagine it's going to feel like the cheaper option. I'll try it and pivot to the ferro if I'm not feeling it.
>>3057844you'll have to report back, I hated it, theres like a delay on the aimed shotspammy shot is cool, but not cool enough to bring this gun with me if aiming down sights sucks
>>3057854>>3057844I like the bantam it is fun
>>3057854>>3058022I like how it looks but I haven't used it in 2 raids. Got an il toro bp, medium parts bp, and tortoise stencil for anvil. I guess I'm a shotty main this run.
>>3058034that reminds me, I got to make my Vulcano expeditions gave me
>trying to drop aggro from a shredder>all arcs still have literal wallhacks and just track you regardless of what you try to doall this fake hype over fucking nothing this shit is still fucking garbage
>running up to a raider hatch to rush extraction, notice a downed raider crawling in>another raider runs up from beside him and knocks him the fuck out, not a word between the two>take this murderer back to speranza before he has a chance to look through the dead raiders bag
Like the update overall. Feels kinda anemic though and having to wait another 6 months for the next update is rough.
>solo pve is filled with mouthbreathing retards>only have 1 buddy playing arc>you need 3 people to open up the main core on frigatec'est la vie
Who got their /subway/ skin
>>3057081Super useful to me at level 75 and expeditions turned off
>>3055121>>3053727So wait for someone to unlock emprah then grapple/snap to the exit door, which you can open with showstoppers?
good lord the outpost looks ugly as hell compared to the other place
HOLY SHITthis pve mode is amazing
>>3058581thats what people are doing right now, yeaI'll wait until they patch it, theres like 5 other guys who know exactly where the good loot is, so I just get a inventory full of blue shit I can craft
>pve mode gets free emperor loot with zero risk>already nerfed running on fumes into irrelevanceamazing
>>3059098running on fumes seems fine for pve, maybe a little more leniency on being able to use stims when you run out of staminaI thought it was cool, but apparently the devs do not want you to get around the stamina penalty, and just disable stims until you get stamina backI feel like this is going to make me use more stims, because I do that whole>slide while stimmingthingand slide uses a little bit of stamina and pushes you into "no stamina" meaning you can slide and stim right at the end, you have to do it beforeI even tried it running to the extract, it was ok, but I had to keep in mind I cant vault or stopseems like a shit perk now that you shouldnt take, I dont pvp, but pvpers are even going>yea this is a bad perk now>imagine getting shot and you cant stim for 5 seconds
>>3059137>and slide uses a little bit of stamina and pushes you into "no stamina" meaning you can slide and stim right at the endcant*
>>3059051wow thats hideous
>>3059150yea where are all the good outfits>behind the bugged passcome the fuck on
>>3059051wow thats cool, where is it
>>3059165store
>>3059028they patched it>>3059137yeah sniffing paint is fine for pve
me and my friends finally finished our workbenches lets go boys
>>3059179>yeah sniffing paint is fine for pveso you're saying just remove the perk? wtf lol
>Our standard matchmaking will continue to apply during PvPvE sessions. This will help us gather strong data about how a PvE toggle affects PvPvE sessions before we make any sweeping changes to matchmaking. so all those pvpfags trying to ruin pvebros time are going to skew the data and make embark think pve is successful because even pvpfags are playing itgood job guys
>>3059098>>already nerfed running on fumes into irrelevancei thought that was how it was going to work 2 bee h. surprised they let you stim during the cooldown and kinda glad they did it this way.
>>3059189yeah, it's pointless just like the melee perk they added, which replaced the other melee perk that was useless. they recognize useless things and remove them, but then they add more useless shit. a sisyphean development cycle.
>>3059214they just need to give a little window to use it when you run out, like normal gameplay, but if you go into that stamina debt, then not be usable
>>3059217oh you're just mad you cant troll in pve mode
>>3059222>hey they added a nice qol perk because 90% of this gameplay is fucking running>they nerf it immediately for no reason>this nerf mostly affects pvp, but also effectively just wastes time for people in all modes>oh so you're mad you can't troll pve players?Sometimes I wish I could be this retarded. Would make my life less stressful if I couldn't string an idea together for longer than a few moments before collapsing into myself like a fucking neutron star. The perk is useless, and so are you.
>>3059230how am I supposed to know thats what you meantI cant read your mind motherfucker, god damn trolls are retarded
>>3059232the absolute state of pve tards
now I have to think where to put my other 10 points, I only use wall run
>>3059230>>they nerf it immediately for no reasonbecause it was busted
>>3059290good point, which is why they took 6 months to nerf ventoro. just accept that the devs are schizo retards.
>>3050676It's questionable. I know pve players are the whiniest faggots imaginable but the possibility of pvp despite 90% of players being friendly was part of t he charm of arc. Changing that might take the game the way of sea of thieves after they added pve mode.
>>3059316>Changing that might take the game the way of sea of thieves after they added pve mode.this is basically the fate of every pvpve game after some time because the players are tarded and so are the devs
>>3059309>projecting
>>3059316PvPfags and "pvpve"fags do not share the same sentiment, I'm watching streamers, and they run into a group of people going "hey, friendly, we're friendly!" while being mowed down by a godcatthe response?>"yea go play PvE mode if youre friendly, they added it today dumbass"
>bastion + leaper kill>the loot is nerfed btwso this is the death of arc>some guy tried to talk to mestraight up told him he's an npc and i do not care because there's no reason to interact with players
>>3059381how stupid can you be?they didnt nerf arc loot because pvp groups have to go in and get that stuffthey said it was just the regular loot in containers
>>3059387>implying the pvp groups can't kill arc in pvp>how stupid can you be?
>>3059394>larper
>>3059401>pulls some nonsense out of his assokay
>>3059371Oh yes. pvp players are savages and kill the games they are in. that is why the ideal situation is to segregate the ultrafaggots. You need to get rid of sweaty losers for any game, be it wow or marathon or arc. When I played arc the subsection of player that got off by ruining everyone elses fun was a problem too.
>>3059421Ah, typo I mean ark survival evolved. But rust has it plenty too. The difference between a player who kills you to get your stuff and a player who breaks into your base to smash everything in your base, wreck all your chests, kill all your tames, and then leaves because he already has everything he could need.
started playing this because they finally added some big robotsjoined the frigate mission on a whim, got dumpstered by the big dronespent all my money on a hullcracker 2 and 90ish shots, went in again and still didnt get anywhere because i didnt know what to do after you merk all the turrets on top of the shipare they even worth doing? cause all the loot i found on there was meh at best
the pve toggle is a mess, unsurprisingly
>>3059493how so? everyone seems to be happy so farexcept the fags that get mad at other people having fun
>>3059497top complaint seems to be vultures stealing other players hard earned loot.
>1/3rd of emperor loot>THE CONTAINER LOOT IS NERFED GUUUYS
>>3059530Embark lying or being incompetent as usual
>>3059538the pve toggle is the worst shit everyou are a fucking npc and so is everyone around you, absolutely 0 reason to communicate, negotiate or even acknowledge that other people are thereand with embark incompetency included this being the mathematically optimal way to farm half the game (or more) including quests... what's the point anymore?i'd rather go play duckov
Rats on reddit be spamming novel-tier posts hating on PVE. I think Embark did something right.t. paid for two skins so far
>>3006455Nobody posting how now we can Larp as a Jaeger Truppe and kill soviets back in The Beskid Mountains (Pendola Pass)I am dissapoint you faggots.
>>3059570game has too many problems to care about cosmetics
PVE isn't a bad concept but just throwing loot at people on a map made with some pvp in mind to throttle how much you can loot is important.
Just came back from a PvE lobby Matriarchliterally no one is fighting her, they're all just waiting for someone else to do it
>>3059527yea I saw that reddit post>RATS ARE GRIEFING ME EVEN IN PVE MODE>click the post>"people just wait for you to use your keys and steal your loot"
>>3059570What happened to the improved customization options? 6 more months?
>>3059609got to remember its a bunch of newfags too, might not even know what to do or like>I know how this goes>one time I shot at a [any big arc] and itdestroyed me>probably the same here
>>3059574>2026>Game with no game breaking bugs.>lol. lmao even.That's why you choose to dance in the fire and say to those Swedestan fags to lick some balls and suck an anus
>>3059616I dont remember that being mentioned (not saying it didnt, I just literally dont remember)
>pve players enjoying the mode>pvp players losing their fucking minds over it
>>3059622the pvpers on reddit are going insane>this game is so fucking backwards>the devspitched and promised to us guaranteeing it is a hardcore pvp game>now they add this stupid pve shit, they just killed the game >ignore that I havent played in 6 months
weird how people arent picking up on this as a reflection of reality>people with guns>can defend themselves from criminals>guns are magically unable to kill people now>that criminal still rapes your wife and you can do nothing about it
>>3059637>most people are cucks for comfortthis isn't news really
>>3059620There was some code being digged through and people were finding signs of potential customization updates, like different headpieces on different outfits - someone might have dropped a screenshot but I'd have to dig through the archives
How hard is it to earn the points for the pass? i don't want to buy it without knowing I can complete it.
>>3059639oh nice, I would hope its an update between now and the next 6th month one, but maybe they are just going to save all their big shit for in half a year
>>3059644its this stuff to progres the pass now
>>3059644some fag on reddit has already completed it
>>3059648>>3059651That looks piss easy. Can I grind the pass and buy it later?
>>3059662yea its got a free version you progress through, can buy better version with raider coins, or pay $30 for $20 worth of raider coins and some extra shit, idk if it changes the pass more than just buying the raider coin version, I havent upgraded either and will probably look into it myself later
>>3059471real loot is at the end but frigate not really worth doing compared to emperor. which should be reversed, emperor loot needs to switch with frigate loot.
post your PvE vulture haulsgot another 2 matriarch cores the last round as well
>>3059697I just play the normal mode, I'm not a pussy
>>3059700I just play PvE to steal from others
>>3059703that says a lot about you as a person
>>3059719but it just feels so good to get rewarded for doing nothing
>>3059734cooldoesnt change my opinion at all
>>3059637I am a supporter of a gun rights group and still think PVE is a good thing. It's best to have guns and never have to use them.
>>3059749>never have to>physically can'tclueless and retarded
still not sure if I like it, its an ok perk considering you can just run infinitetely again once your stamina recovers a very small amount, but too much stuff can cancel it, even random shit like>you went off this half a foot ledge and stumbled a littleboth are with sprinting on fumes, I just wanted to see how bad the penalty was
holy shit, there are so many girls playing pve modeits funny too, because you can tell they are returners flashing their flashlight and going "friendly"sister, you're playing pve mode
>>3059824>tldr the tiny stamina mismanagement will kill youtime to do parkour shit with flow
>>3059830>play pvp: only encounter kids>play pve: only encounter cute girls and really cool and friendly guysAs a non-Trump/Epstein supporter, I'll stay in PVE.
>>3059830I encountered someone called Wanda and she had a really hot voiceShe told a bunch of guys to fuck off with a sneering laugh, it was really hot
so now that running on fumes is confirmed shit, what other final skill do we pick?the shoulder bash one? or is the wallrun any good?
>>3059885More like Wakanda amirite
>>3059912Running on fumes is still a great skill but only to get across the map, not for running around in arc territory.Personally I have 41 skill points in stamina/endurance, 31 in conditioning and 6 in survivla so far. Idk where to put the remaining 8 points (only did the expedition twice so far). The survival tree seems like the worst one right now.
i came here from tarkov a few days ago and ive not had a single pvp interaction despite numerous encounters with other players(all friendly obv)this game does NOT need a pve mode holy fuck the karma system or w/e its called does a fantastic job alreadywhat a waste of dev time for a handful of uber babbys
>>3059991The idea of pvp ever happening causes extreme anxiety in many pve players. Even when playing something like skyrim they live in fear the game will suddenly become multiplayer and a player will kill them.
>>3059824>>3059840yeaI thought you could combine Sprinting on Fumes with In The FlownopeIn The Flow keeps your momentum/speed for jumping/slidin/vaultingwhich interrupts the Sprinting on Fumes and puts you into stamina recoveryI guess its just bad perkwall run is nice for certain spotsin the flow feels nicesprinting on fumes is fun to just sprint forever and you save some money/slots on stims, but its assuming you only play "pve" and very carefullywas nice for doing my mixed fruit run, just ran to each location with popping stamina, start picking up the fruit, like 10 seconds later my stamina is back
>>3059940ntathe red tree seems to be for pvpersand once you get 41 and 31 in the others, you are supposed to go for this one
>>3060016>ran to each location with popping staminawithout*
>>3060024>the red tree seems to be for pvperswhat the actual fuck are you smokingyou just take TC and forget that it existspvp is mostly green/yellow
>>3060024The survival tree only has a few good perks: crafting in-round, fasting loot, quick rollIt was probably meant for pure-PVE players but the other two skill tree branches are just too OP to put more than 6-11 skill points into it. An ideal split after three expeditions is probably 41 conditioning, 41 stamina, 9 survival. In an ideal world you'd have two points more and could unlock quick roll too.
>>3060035relaxI havent even looked at the red tree, and even included the word "seems" because i could be wrong>>3060120fairI just saw streams and vids of every pvper going for turtle crawl and just assumed
The PvE toggle being Solos Duos Trios all in one just makes it funnier. I just swept in on the Emperor as the big door up top opened and stole a bunch of shit a duo had worked their way through the Emperor forGEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>3060149>relaxno, fuck youin fact everyone is going to be picking green/yellow for at an absurd proportion because it has S++ tier skills for every need you always want to have.green is probably the biggest offender here as it had half the S-tier shit from red moved into itthe only good things from red are the big nodes and crawl/looters and even then they are situational or redundant depending on party size which means you're not wasting 30-40 points for mediocre shit trying to get to that point
>>3060159fuck you too
>>3060165fuck you again.betting my balls picrel is what 90% of playerbase will be running (swap between looters and crawl depending on what u want)
>>3060149>turtle crawlYou can max that out by putting a mere 7 skill points into the survival branch.
>>3060174you need 10 to get past the first node
>>3060173dont care lol
>>3060181faggot.
what waiting for someone else to complete the Emperor gets youwho /here/ is vulturemaxxing?
queen/matriarch are kinda fun now, actually can loot its legs once its over, got 2 cores without rushing and everyone justfocused on killing it, like 2 people tried to go for the armor, I tried that and you get like 1 piece of green arc metal lolonly saw them try it once, maybe they wre just testing it like I was
I think this is now the way to go with the nerf to Fumes today. The salvaging->recycling upgrade in-round seems really nice for farming mats.https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/skill-builder/share/2-D5PGQ8Aq-EIJMIc~Y-EEd3W!YG?expedition=15
>>3060291Running on fumes is still insanely helpful.
>>3060326it's going to be mandatory in PvE lobbies, unless you want to be late to every single loot spot being picked clean
so far I still like running on fumes, havent noticed in the flow but its probably useful, might go wall running and running on fumes, at least until running on fumes gets me killed and I get mad
>>3060337I assume they'll adjust pve arcs to be much, much harder to fight to stop the rush of looting then bailing. I think maybe the longer the game goes on the more events shoudl happen that drop the good loot, along with more dangerous arc?
>>3060212bros you really should get in on thisI am playing like actual scum right now
>>3060358they devs seemingly did make them tougher, saw a couple sdtreamers die to arc in pve mode, but maybe pvpfags dont know how to fight arc
>>3060337>>3060337I enjoyed it immensely but it gets cancelled way too easily to justify it now IMO. I always carry a stack of adrenaline, so being too slow to loot areas isn't an issue.
Can you kill people via gravity like with pulse mines or do even those not trigger?
>>3060384More than two arc at once are always dangerous.
>>3060384pretty much thisonly used it for the final sprint to extract and it went fine, have to avoid so many arc
>>3060389not sure about pulse mines, don't know if any mines in general can be triggered by other playersbut you can use the shoulder bash on other playersthere was a guy pushing people down the space port tower in PvE with itit was freaking hilarious
>>3060385The maximum cooldown time is 13 seconds if you run across the map in one sprint. For anything shorter you have to wait like 3-5 seconds until you can start sprinting again. Just use it when running from point A to point B and don't use it if you're in an arc/rat-infested territory.
>>3060353i picked in flow but i just dont see an opportunity to see where it could be useful. especially with items that entirely negate any parkour like the snap hook.
>>3060405AI told me that in-flow is particulary useful in parkour-heavy maps like Pendola Pass but haven't noticed a difference yet either. Then again, I don't care for wall jumps so the other skill felt wasteful aswell.
Are these posts in reddit about pve being a mute shopping simulator for real? ABMM was already like that in the carebear lobbies. Why all of a sudden are these posts popping up?
>>3060461It's very likely underage PVPers spamming reddit and discord because they can't compete in actual PVP lobbies. That being said, the PVE mode does need refinement but it's still a good addition.
>>3060404Chances are you'll walk off a tiny drop or too tall a rock on the ground and now you're x seconds behind and it nullifies the time saved by not using shots. Don't get me wrong, I loved the skill but unless they undo the nerf or make it so it can't be cancelled as easily, it's just not worth it IMO.
>you have to get the final hit for these to count
>>3060487Easy enough with deadlines
>>3060487deadmine when its smoking?
>>3060461it's real
>>3060473Actually you need to fall off a clip for the skill to stop or get hit by a bullet/tick/bomb.
fatal mistake trying to cater to the "change everything to cater to my needs so i can complete and quit the game in 2 weeks" pve crowd in a pvp game. dune awakening is a semi recent example. it had many flaws, but the devs listening to to the pve crowd killed it
>>3060527In my experience it's been easy to lose the buff, even a small drop like a couple inches will stop it. There's also the fact that you can get completely blocked off and have to do a detour to avoid a quick vault, that's more time wasted. Believe me, I've played dozens of hours since this update this is what I've experienced.I'd rather have in-round recycling and more ammo drops than deal with that. As nice as infinite sprint is, the nerf fucked it for me.
Embark has a "pve-test-feedback" channel on their Discord with an hour long cooldown for each messagewew lad
>>3060617>it had many flaws, but the devs listening to to the pve crowd killed itTechnically it brought the pop up from 3k to 10k but this is after about a 200k dip.
>>3060617demanding a singleplayer mode to play with your friends only is the next step in the PvEfags ruining multiplayer games pipeline
>>3060618Do you like only play on Riven Tides?
>>3060617>dune awakening is a semi recent example. it had many flaws, but the devs listening to to the pve crowd killed itLol no. DD rocketpod spam is what killed the game.
>>3060617This is a false flag. The sheer amount of PVE hates tells me that Embark did everything right and only the worst part of the community that wants this game destroyed is fudding against PVE.
>>3060654No, I remember the detour thing happening on both spaceport and pendola pass. Look, you can use whatever skills you want, I'm just sharing my opinion on why I'm changing mine. It's not like you have to sit around waiting for stamina to regen without the talent, adrenaline has always existed and you can always run endlessly if you plan for what you're doing in the raid.
>>3060495>>3060497pretty much, just hoped doing damage and killing it with lobby would be enough
>>3060617>pvp gameits pvpve fucking retard
i got in with the free week and ive not had another player shoot at me once due to the matchmaking pvp system thingy. are people begging for pve mode just shitty pvpers that have been punished for being ratty?
>>3060660this>watching some people play arc>"yo we're friendly bro">THEN GET THE FUCK IN PVE LOBBIES WE FUCKING HATE YOU PIECES OF SHIT>>3060676to the trolls it was never about pvp, it was about killing pve-ers using pvpeven in this thread you have a guy going>oh you removed pvp>WELL IM GOING TO PLAY PVE MODE AND GIVE EMBARK NUMBERS AND GRIEF YOU>>3060692seems to be 2 crowds1 is people who want to kill robots and do quests with their friends, and duo/trio dont let you do that easily2 is there is a group of people who will never touch a game where pvp is potential, they would never pick up the game anyway without this mode> are people begging for pve mode just shitty pvpers that have been punished for being rattythey actually hate PvE mode because they cant grief people as easily, most they can do is take some lootwhich is weird when they've been so adamant about "I'm a pvpve player and this is bad for the game" also "I'm going to play the pve mode to troll other players"
>>3060671Adrenaline is a pain to use. I really like the new skill because you can use it to sprint across the map then only watch your stamina when around enemies.
>>3060721nta but I'm growing to like it, I can go a whole match without using adrenaline shots, turns out most of my gameplay is running from one area to the next
>>3060704>the split ruins pvpve>random seethe about pvers getting killedcope
Alright getting lost in the Emperor and running out of time was pretty cool. You're just fucked if you dont have a grapple hook huh?
>>3060740all the seethe I'm seeing now is players telling other players to go play pve insteadyou guys will get your pvp lobbies soon!
>>3060762>the game is pvpve but im happy that it's goneleast obvious idiot
>>3060692You're right. If you aren't hostile you rarely get ratted. At most it's like 1-in-20 games. The only reason I could see for needing a PvE mode is for duo/trio groups since getting into friendly games is harder for them.PvE mode will fuck the normal matchmaking by either having longer queue times or a wider MMR range which means more grouping of hostile and friendly players. ABMM is fine as it is and I really don't see a need for this stupid change. Not being able to defend your loot or key rooms from thieves is a big reason why I don't like PvE mode as well.>>3060721It's quite literally muscle memory for me at this point, and doing it while sliding or snaphook into sliding really removes downtime. To each their own.>>3060740Is it that hard to grasp, retard? It ruins the PvPvE mode because a chunk of friendly players are removed from the queue. Longer queue times or wider MMR ranges will ensue.
>>3060777>It ruins the PvPvE mode because a chunk of friendly players are removed from the queue.you fucking faggot that is exactly what i am sayingi was replying to a pvenigger gloating that it is happening because the "muh buh cluh seal" is the first thing they shit out as a defence mechanism while simultaneously refusing to defend themselves
>>3060770dude you must be ESL or something because all your posts are retarded and you dont seem to understand english
>>3060777>PvE mode will fuck the normal matchmakingalready did, normal lobbies are full pvp right fucking now
>>3060813weirdwhat happened to all the pvpvers
>>3060820>cut the lobbies in half pushing people to either extremeyeah i wonder what
>>3060838>but now everyone shoots on sightjust dont shoot each other on sightare pvpfags stupid?
>>3060850are you mentally challenged?
>>3060777>It ruins the PvPvE mode because a chunk of friendly players are removed from the queue.I mean all it means is that carebears who don't play PVE mode will be thrown into a lobby with people from mixed lobbies who shoot loot goblins. Overall this may benefit everyone, even the PVP players who now get put into lobbies with more aggressive mixed lobby players.
>>3060850You've posted this multiple times, but the people pissed about being shot on sight aren't the ones shooting on sight. Why do you keep replying to PvE players with this? Are you stupid?>>3060863I dunno about that. Someone else said normal queue has tons of PvP now, but I haven't played yet today. I consider myself a carebear and still shoot ninja looters and defend myself. I don't PvP unless someone violates the NAP so don't consider myself a "mixed" player because I'm not shooting if it's advantageous or whatever. Who knows what embark considers mixed.
>>3060838i got matched in 20 seconds and the lobbies are as carebear as ever. your fear mongering wont work on me.
>>3060912NTA but I'm a carebear that doesn't want the toggle. We'll see how queue is when the player count settles back down.
>>3060152Im seething at work right now waiting to do this asap lmao
>>3060910cause its funny
>>3060912literally forgot there was a toggle, all my friendly games have been normal, maybe a couple newfriends who I help kill stuff
Emperor exit hax appears to have been patched?
>queue 7 times for frigate>not a single guy doing the objective and everyone is just running naked bravo
>>3059547>>the pve toggle is the worst shit ever>you are a fucking npc and so is everyone around youThis is really the worst part. Arc was the most fun I've had with ingame voice chat since TF2. Literally no reason to talk now, and it seems everyone is taking this stance. Unless they turn on their mic for 5 seconds to bitch at someone who just stole their loot. If only there was a better way for them to express their displeasure over something like that...
>>3061307>wasits still the samewatching Lemon play right now and he's in pvp lobbies, and all he's doing is using his mic to "team up" with peoplehe literally said>the lobbies are exactly the same as before
>>3061334Dude, I was clearly reviewing the dogshit pve mode. Of course people still talk in regular lobbies, because they aren't antisocial pussies. PVEtards being unable to handle any level of human interaction is basically the only reason it exists.
Returnfag here. I came back because I was excited for PvE mode, but it seems they kinda bunged it? I also don't get why they wouldn't just make you do a PvE character instead of doing the whole "reduced loot value" which apparently didn't work anyway. I'd be perfectly happy getting full rewards, but as a downside not being allowed to carry them to PvP.. It's also completely retarded to do it without "everyone gets individualized loot" Like what? Now the new meta is: "wait for others to kill/open shit and rush in to steal it"? Fast reveal skills op in PvE mode I guess. Before if you killed a big enemy, and someone tried to steal your shit you could at least shoot them. What do you do now? Just wave at them angrily?And what's with not making all maps available for PvE? Nobody's gonna be happy with that. The people who actually want PvE are just gonna feel "forced" to play PvP mode. It's so weird and half baked.
>>3061485>I also don't get why they wouldn't just make you do a PvE character instead of doing the whole "reduced loot value" which apparently didn't work anyway. I'd be perfectly happy getting full rewards, but as a downside not being allowed to carry them to PvP..Are you kidding? Imagine the seethe. PvE players don't want to be challenged. But the real answer is: this is just a test to gather feedback and see what they should do next with regards to the whole thing. It's by no means permanent. And yes, it is complete shit.
>pve players dont want to play the gameweird, because its all the pvpfag griefing and pve players playing the game
>PvP players no longer need to spend hours rigging ABMM for farming and can farm PvE with impunity before going back to deathmatch lobbies at the click of a button>griefers now have an entirely new mode full of new and exciting ways to grief>PvE players are masturbating over how """mad""" the griefers are because they're confusing them for PvP players griefing out of protest instead of trolls who are now happily immune to bullets>voice chat is dead in PvE lobbies because there's no longer a need to prove you're a human being with thoughts and feelings that won't shoot on sight, so the community spirit is gone>no need for awareness since players aren't a threat and arc die in seconds to combined fire so PvE is just a loot supermarket>people already camping outside key rooms like beggars or swarming your arc killsMy experience so far: maybe there's a reason Embark decided to add PvP to their PvE game halfway through development. The tension makes the game, and if this kills PvPvE lobbies by turning the game into strictly PvE or shoot on sight I'm uninstalling. Let me repeat it louder for the ones in the back, the only people hurt by this are PvPvE players. PvP players, rats, trolls are having a field day. And my friends who reinstalled for PvE are already getting bored because arc aren't enough of a threat.
>>3061814>>PvE players are masturbating over how """mad""" the griefers are because they're confusing them for PvP players griefing out of protest instead of trolls who are now happily immune to bulletsto be fair, its the trolls calling themselves pvpfags and responding to posts where pvers are saying they didnt like the pvp
this game has so many armchair game devsif you knew so much about gaming why didnt you make a game?
I guess I'm fucked, I have no idea how to get this
>>3061235frigate not worth when you can run emperor and get a million loot for less effort
>>3061814>every autist proven right, againpvefags are retarded and do not know what they are asking for, we knew this from the start
>>3060692I play safe & friendly and get shot at maybe once every 10 hours. Not killed, shot at. But the hyperanxious need an entire mode to feel safe that results in drastically less socialization too. Hell, it's probably a bonus for them. I already see pve'ers asking for a completely private game mode where they're the only players vs arc.
>>3061814>The tension makes the game, and if this kills PvPvE lobbies by turning the game into strictly PvE or shoot on sight I'm uninstalling.It is not. Let ME repeat these for the retards sitting in the back. This does not hurt the regular lobbies. Those of us who were playing when the game was hovering around 20-30k daily CCU peaks will not switch over to PVE. This doomsday scenario where PVE empties out the regular lobbies leaving only murderhobos is retarded. ABMM already effectively creates PVE lobbies and those enticed by pure PVE lobbies were not among those playing the game when the peaks were at 20-30k.I swear the retards against PVE must be trolls.
Haven't had any combative moments with raiders in like 6 games while looting around for my bench upgrades. The pve seems a little pointless, but I'm just using green loot, bamtam, and small shield. I'd imagine its probably got less hackers fucking around in there.
>there's randomization to the Emperor dungeonIt's actually fun wtf.>>3061967Perhaps it's on the Frigate. Maybe.
>>3062550yea but I suck, and everyone just freekits to immediately loot everything
>Running to quest objective >Run past guy and say hello>Always have a habit of keeping an eye on people when theyre near>He starts following me and sticks close by me>Pulls out a gun>I pull out my gun>Try to descalate>He fires>I kill himI am shocked that this guy thought he could stick by me and blatantly pull out his gun and I would not notice. I guess he did that because he must have had success with that tactic in the past. ABMM has really dulled peoples senses.
This season's trial reward does not inspire me to compete
The rascal is such a POS not even worth using at all. Traded it and bunch of guns for two Dolabras from the khajits
>>3062731>traded one shit gun for another
>>3062644I just 3 star and accidentally get hot shot
bros I need household cleaner for smoke grenade blueprint, its a green item and no idea where to get it
>>3062808for the research table? thanks for letting me know to save those things.
>>3062813theres a bunch of random shit, I'm guessing everything is valuable now
>>3062808Dam apartments probably
man, this update is just making me want to do the old expeditions less and less, I know they're changing it, but I wonder what>>3062836i'll keep trying
>got this shit>still no frigate thingI'd rather not trade seeds for it, but might have to
>gave an ARC data module to a random who rez’d as a thank you before I realized I needed itStill Worth itI found it in a random hornet anyway
>>3062992I think those are common anyway if you loot wasps and hornets enough
I've been playing the PvE mode in ARC Raiders and I finally love the game again. This shit NEEDS to stay, it is revolutionizing the game. Its like playing an entirely different game. I know this will upset some PvP sweats to hear but honestly its the fucking truth.
>>3063037It’s cozy and helps me find bullshit items to upgrade things
>>3062955expeditions will need to have a cycle time of 6 months if they want a reset. 3 months is too short with the new endgame sink and all the shit that needs to be collected for the weapons and outpost.
Navigating the outpost is excruciating lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x5i1e0/killed_by_players_in_a_pve_matriarch_lobby/>cheaters are killing people in PvE lobbiesPVETARDS, ARE YOU OKAY?? GEEEEEEGPvE is the gift that keeps on giving
>>3061189yes, but you can just wait by the big round door that opens by the end and hop in there instead
>>3063097If you have the emperor key why even do the dungeon, why not unlock the door then just climb the outside? Idge
>>3061814Hit the nail on the head, and this is what we (PvPvE players) have been arguing for ever since ABMM started doing the same thingReally, ABMM was just a tease of this. The PvE toggle is the final nail in the coffinThere is a reason, according by Embark's own numbers, the Mixed playerbase got reduced from being 40% of the total playerbase to 27% in only 5 monthsThey've been focusing on the wrong players, and it's costing them
>>3063104the door doesn't open until the dungeon has been finished, so someone actually has to go through itso I've just been AFKing at the top waiting until I hear the doors open and then jump in to loot everything
reduced loot from containers btw
>>3063137Embark are lying fags after all
>shoot a guy>yeah this game is garbage
stealing people's emperor loot by speedrunning, calling them niggers, and laughing in their faces because there is literally nothing they can do to me in the enforced chungus lobbieshttps://www reddit com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x5bujf/pve_is_insufferable/mommy change literally every single thing about this game to appeal to my one specific way I want to play it. just like be a hecking good person with basic human empathy o algo
>>3063168bro is out here playing fortnut>>3063170BASEDI was stealing some guy's loot in the Emperor and he was yelling at me as the Vaporizer was aggroed on him>FUCK YOU>FUCKING HELP ME>FUCKING STEALING MY SHIT>shooting at me with his Renegade as if it would do anythingfelt good to get all the reward for none of the work
>>3063037Eeeeh. Id prefer if it were timed somehow. I enjoy getting to actually use my gear willy nilly but there's something off about it. If Arc were 3x their count itd be more fun.
>having fun with pve>everyone hates it despite insisting that I rig my ABMM so that I can get put into essentially the same shit except with niggers that can just nig you for funthis is basically the white woman walking at night meme, the people that are pissed that they cant pvp anymore are the niggers that walk across the street from you at night while you're just trying to mind your own business
>>3063271just go open your dresser drawers 50 times, you'll have the same amount of fun
>>3063302Sorry for having fun
>>3006455PvE is incredibly fucking boring>nobody talks>no threats>more shots everywhere>zero stealth>there's as much Arc as in PvP i.e. little>more rats looting your shit>zero fear>zero thrill>zero stakes or excitementJust mindless looting shit.Are "PvE players" really satisfied with this? The online discourse feels fabricated. I'd rather lose my kit over and over than play this. I'd play literally any other PvE game over this (PD2, DeepRock, Helldivers).Perhaps it's all Embark's fault for not doing anything with Trials, and allowing ABMM to be rigged for PvE lobbies creating these retard echochambers fueled by chungus redditors.See you all in a week when we can play normal PvPvE again.You know, the game we all signed up for.
>>3063307sorry for calling you a retarded monkey who is satisfied watching paint dry. oh wait, no I'm not. go back to posting le epic democracy memes in helldivers
>>3063319I can actually build up my stash without fags in t4 extract camping me, so that's pretty cool. Maybe I can catch my stash up enough to actually contest them too
>>3063320Why are you so mad bro, no one's taking away your epic pvp gains from you in fact you should be happy all these people's stash values are gonna rise which leads to you having more loot or are you upset that they'll be able to have gear on level with you now and that scares you?
>>3061814This.>>3062459In theory this should work. And yet, I had a lot of nice interactions before this update, now every lobby is shoot-on-sight with PvP ultrasweats or just straight up cheaters.Since subconsciously everyone knows people who wanted to be friendly fucked off permamently and regular lobbies are branded "PvP lobbies" constantly, the likelihood of not being shot on sight drops to near zero.And the way this split actually plays out is people treat PvE as the loot up/grind zone before going to regular lobbies. So you lose by playing the game normally and by taking weaker kits into regular lobbies.Watch the reviews & playercount drop in a week and blame Embark.
>>3063324because you're a stupid faggot, and I don't like stupid faggots. why does that upset you? because you know your tense and action packed looting simulator with braindead enemies is completely hollow?
>>3063323So now the bare minimum to play regular lobbies is to grind PvE lobbies mindlessly, and everyone on PvP is either free loadout to rat or ultrakitted.Do you not see the problem? Have we all suddenly forgotten how fucking annoying this game was to play with the dupe exploits where everyone had maxed out Bobcat IV's and hundreds of trigger nades?
>>3063330>Watch the reviews & playercount drop in a week and blame Embark.I already wrote my negative review, I implore everyone else to do so too
>>3063336>Have we all suddenly forgotten how fucking annoying this game was to play with the dupe exploits where everyone had maxed out Bobcat IV's and hundreds of trigger nades?you vill fight endless hordes of battledads in full pink gear sporting fully upgraded kinetic bobcats in PvPvE and you vill like it
>>3063319>Are "PvE players" really satisfied with this? The online discourse feels fabricated.Now apply this logic to something like 40% of your paycheck being stolen by the government to pay for subhuman niggers who don't work, illegals who break the law to come here, and boomers who paid 20k for their house. The short answer is yes, most people are satisfied with this because most people are sheep, which makes it easy to fabricate the discourse with complete bullshit like oppression and racism.
>>3063319The entire reason Arc ended up as an extraction shooter is that Embark ran out of time and money before they could turn it into a properly fleshed out PvE game.
>>3063350Then it sure is fortunate that they made 500 million back on that gamble instead of canceling the project and taking the tax writeoff. It was probably just a fluke though, it's not like pvp is that important anyway. They should be focusing more on the container opening aspect, and the cozy cottage sims building simulator aspect instead. Displaying my wholesome trans positive colored ducks in my comfycore outpost that I looted with my discord xisters in chill kino pve chungus lobbie is so gender affirming, it doesn't even matter that the frigate is half baked.
>>3063336So again, the issue is that you're scared that people will have gear equal to you? How is the existence of PvE any different from telling people to just farm carebear lobbies? Anyways the biggest issue is the existence of ABMM, embark needs to grow a pair and get rid of it or kill carebear lobbies.
>>3063319There are people who enjoy battling arc.
>>3063468There are also people who enjoy getting their negholes pozzed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x5mr35/psa_theres_a_glitch_out_there_right_now_that/apparently there's a glitch that lets players kill each other in PvE and it's really easy to dothe guy refuses to tell anyone how, so he might just be lyingI cant find anything else about it
>>3063331You lost, pvptranny.
>>3063474Yeah the PVP losers who are having a meltdown on 4chan, reddit and discord. I can only imagine this being a preview to the midterms next month.
>>3063547post some of your #epic pve gameplay clips. I will be totally owned and start kneeling.
>>3063551>I can only imagine this being a preview to the midterms next month.Holy fucking american brain, as if a worldwide hit videogame and vidya forums relates in any way to your countries election. U just have a pedo president cabal comitting fraud on the daily and corrupt politicians in congress.Get a grip, and GTFO off my vidya board.
>>3063557I could post clips of taking down matriarchs OR I could play the game, have fun and watch you seethe and call the game dead after the PVE mode increased the active playercount by 10x.
>spawn next to pharmacy and rush it>some other guy comes into the building after me>just looting as fast as possible since we can't kill each other>I managed to squeeze him out and loot 2 drawers by blocking his access>he starts calling me a "pve loser" and complaining in voice>call him a stupid nigger who picked the mode and then complained about itwow what a shock, this is truly shocking. a dogshit game mode with absolutely zero tension leads to hilarious copes like this.
holy kek Embark themselves just announced how to enter PvE lobbies to grief with PvP enabled for yourself only
>>3063650You know what you should do? Go back to your PVP lobbies.
>>3063655No, at worst you'll end up in a normal lobby.
>>3063675no, the player who complained about not being able to kill me for "stealing" his loot should go back to normal lobbies. and you should kill yourself because this isn't nintendogs.
>>3063681PVE CHADS won. PVP virgins lost.
>>3063714actually I won when I got the loot and that retard didn't. and I will win when I respec into bullrush and steal queen cores from people. cope.
>>3063735Actually you lost, nintendo won
>trade myself a bunch of weapons using my alt>fat walk all the way to extract>guy sees me>a few other raiders hanging out too>guy aims and fires at my head>its pve mode so nothing happens and I extract safely>rest of the group doesnt want to stand near himLOL
normalize sneaking up on people in PvE and shooting them causing them to think they opted into PvPvE
>>3063966>needing social validation to do somethingtrans-coded
>>3063923>pve for mulinggood idea
>>3063923Shooting at each other is basically the new "hello raider"/fleshlight meta for PVE.
>>3063330>And yet, I had a lot of nice interactions before this update, now every lobby is shoot-on-sight with PvP ultrasweats or just straight up cheaters.>Since subconsciously everyone knows people who wanted to be friendly fucked off permamently and regular lobbiesAnd yet every lobby I played yesterday prsctically all day were the most chung lobbies ever. I call bullshit.
>>3064002Is it astonishing how rats seem to be coordinating shilling across the internet. The PVE mode must really, really be freaking them out.
>>3064007I wouldn't put it past people to falseflag. Considering these people go into PvE lobbies to troll, it would not uncharacteristic for them to straight up lie on the internet.The easiest tell is when they say something like>ah bloo bloo nobody talks in pve lobbies and its a shopping simulator and bloo blooWhich is totally valid and would be legit if they werent only calling for the abolition of PvE mode because all those things apply to chung lobbies. Yet, they are somehow fine with that but not PvE lobbies? That is how you know the post has to be one of those trolls, the same ones upset that they cant kill people in pve lobbies or rat them in abmm lobbies.
>>3063989its greatgot all my spare blueprints and Bettinas with all attachments
>be me, a complete retard>flip on PvE when I want to relax or experiment>flip off PvE when I want to do a specific event or get into troubleI feel choice is good but someone will still try to tell me I bought the wrong game or go play Helldivers or whatever.
>>3064007>>3064025I liked when the guy was going off about how he rats friendly lobbies, and that its so simple, he just has to suicide a few times and he's back inwhen they had already patched that out awhile agotons of posts like that if you pay attention enough
>>3064061fuck emits literally that meme picture of>me: having fun>some other guy: QUIT HAVING FUN2026 has a troll problem where people are invested in if a game they liked does poorly and dies, parroting whatever youtuber said, falsflagging, acting like they are totally a player with an equal opinion when they havent played the game for half a yearand then its just weird cope>THIS GAME IS DEADoh damn>YEA ABMM KILLED THIS GAME, THERE IS NO PVPVE WHEN I QUIT 6 MONTHS AGOinteresting>ACTUALLY THE GAME IS STILL ALIVE, BUT PVE WILL KILL THIS GAMEoh lol>IM A PVPERso this update is good, less PvEfags in your lobby>I MEAN UH ACTUALLY I PVPVEoh I see>EVERYONE SHOOTS ON SIGHT NOWso why doesnt everyone stop shooting on sight, are pvpfags stupid?>BUT I SAID IM PVPVEweird, you were just saying ABMM removed PvPvE when you quit 6 months ago
>>3064097>>EVERYONE SHOOTS ON SIGHT NOWthis lie has to be trolls falseflagging or people living in some dead area like OCE because even with a bobcat strapped to my back, nothing but the most peaceful lobbies in NA even at dead times like at 1 AM.people also forget that pure pvpers will be able to farm their shit without having to lower their ABMM score for some rounds, effectively taking them out of the ABMM matchmaking pool. so again, no idea where people got this idea that pve will hollow out the regular lobbies. its a complete lie.There is no good way to prove who is lying or not but look at my raids and my player knocks. If PVE truly hollowed out the regular lobbies leaving only cheaters and killers, then I should not have been able to extract with a bobcat on my back for all these raids. Im not tfue, look at my knocks, i'd easily die to a good pvper/cheater and yet somehow i extract. Because pve did nothing to my chung lobbies and people are lying.
>>3064097>so this update is good, less PvEfags in your lobbyThe fun of arc is the pvpers mixed in with pve. You don't want the kill on sight that killed marathon.
>>3064112theres a streamer I watch in mixed lobbies and looks tons of fun, half the time someone straight up kills him, other half he just made a new buddy for that raid to try and help take down the bombadier
>>3063089>THE CHEATERS DONT AFFECT MEEEEE>fast forwardlmao
>>3064141>The fun of arc is the pvpers mixed in with pve.That hasnt been true since november lobbies are completely segregated
>>3064217you're like that cia asset that admits to wrongdoing 6 months later when nobody cares anymore and you have a new thing to clutch onto
got this from surveyor
>>3063089>>3064212
>>3064237grats you won the game
>helping someone who is using a ferro kil a bastian with my bettina/anvil>both shooting down at it, he's on parking garag>I'm on space travel>he goes into the stairway room on top of the parking garage on buried city>"thats suspicious, but ok, maybe he needs to heal up">shoots at me from across the building with some grey weapon>heal up>he goes back to fighting the bastian>it lights him up>starts begging for a defib>just go to extract insteadbro I would have helped you kill it and you keep all the loot, I'm just having fun
>>3064335kek deserved
Is this the biggest mask off moment in Arc Raiders history? Look at reddit and see how many people go out of their way to try and kill people in PvE lobbies. It was never about>muh exodus of carebears>muh pvevp lobbies will die because of it>muh integrity of the genre, despite every other extraction shooter having a pve modeIt was always about shooting carebears in the back. That is why there are so many people in the pve lobbies getting trolled. Those trolls know they can't easily shoot someone in the back while extracting. They will have to be more clever to kill someone in pve lobbies, especially as they refine things like the bugs and bull rush affecting allies.If anything, the ABMM lobbies will get more peaceful because all of the trolls will flock to the PvE mode and because of the way ABMM works, it wont all of a sudden match John Cheater with John Carebear because there are less players. All the people who deliberately lower their ABMM score however will not be in the ABMM lobbies because they will be in the PvE lobbies.If you're a carebear worried about lobbies turning hostile, you should want the PvE lobbies because it will contain all of the rats to PvE.
>>3064440>everything bad happening to me is [dedicated scapegoat]hahahah, oh boy, hahahah, you're in for a rude awakening some time in the future
>>3064440pretty muchI wouldnt say its arc raiders, cause every new game I try out has these bad faith actors>read something negative about the game on reddit>repeat it as factnot sure what it is, but seems like certain people get invested in something, and when its not what they imaged, they are now invested in its downfall, including shitposting and spreading misinformation or old outdated information that only applied when they played 6 months ago
>>3064448signed t.roll
>>3062808>found it laying on the ground in some grasswhat the fuckmaybe someone dropped it
>>3064469
>>3064440It's people like these that cause all evil in the world. Without them we'd already have an utopia.
I play in chungartha before pve toggle, I play in chungartha lobby after pve toggle, I have noticed no difference, outside people yelling that of course its different you just havent played 50 matches for 1 rat or some shit. I hope it stays for duo and trio groups.
>>3064440>it's not the ruleset and incentives that are the problem>it's actually a giant conspiracyI wish I was this fucking stupid sometimes, must be fucking bliss
>>3064549>game mechanics are upkept by sunshine rainbows and good intentionstrust me man, you do not want to be that fucking stupid
>>3064549>it's not the ruleset and incentives that are the problemthere is no problem.>PVEVP LOBBIES WILL DIE!!!!!!false>ITS AN EXTRACTION SHOOTER YOU CANT HAVE A PVE MODE!!!!Tarkov has PVE and so do many other extraction shooters>THIS WILL KILL THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!Weird ABMM didn't kill the game and that is already PvE mode.>I SWEAR ITS NOT ABOUT ME WANTING TO SHOOT PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!! ITS ABOUT MIXED LOBBIES!!!!ABMM has existed for months now and all of a sudden PvE is a problem?It is clear all the doom and gloom are from people wanting to shoot others in the back and throwing a shitfit.
>>3064549it is not improbable to think that people who spend hours out of their day going into pve lobbies solely to grief others wont take 2 mins to write up a post and lie on reddit or 4chan
>>3063330Good>pve farm up a build>pvp take build into game to show off skill winning the inventory or other people who think they have good buildsNo more>pvp but everyone you kill just has free loadouts so you're risking your stuff for junk>now if you lose it all you have a mode to claw your way back up without risking losing time>get back to pvp soonerTheres no downside
>>3064741>disingenuous, dishonest and intellectually challenged
>>3064747I dont need to know what the doctors told your mother when you were bornGo be a jeet somewhere else
>>3063319PvE is definitely lacking the sauce of the normal mode I’ll admit, however it is cozy being able to feel more comfortable exploring the map, getting required items, and doing more experimenting, all without having to worry about rats. Also bringing legendary guns to Matriarch without having to worry.Also lore wise, PVE seems to make more sense. Why are raiders killing eac- I mean knocking each other out in this apocalyptic and existential, extinction-level plot scenario? And we’re all from the same underground neighborhood too?
If you talk bad about PvE but don't say a word about ABMM, you're a rat pretending to care about mixed lobbies or the health of the game or whatever bullshit excuse you use to make sure PvE mode doesn't come into the game.
>>3064779both are dogshit and you are a nigger
>>3064792>LET ME SHOOT YOU IN THE BACK!!!!no
>>3064850cry
>>3064855? only one crying is you. i am perfectly happy in my pve lobbies. while you seethe about not being able to camp extract.
>>3064025>>ah bloo bloo nobody talks in pve lobbies and its a shopping simulator and bloo bloo>Which is totally valid and would be legit if they werent only calling for the abolition of PvE mode because all those things apply to chung lobbies.You're a lunatic, people talk measurably less in pve lobbies compared to old chungus lobbies. Because chunguses could fucking shoot each other, so they had a direct incentive to be directly friendly to people, and the most efficient way to do that is to fucking talk. Kill yourself immediately.
>>3064865>so they had a direct incentive to be directly friendly to people, and the most efficient way to do that is to fucking talk.Oh please. Deep in chung lobbies at most you'd get is a wassup. Most people run past each other looting drawers, some people even go into key rooms because that is just normal behavior in these lobbies. Acting like PvE is such a huge difference from chung lobbies is laughable.
>>3064890And when someone starts shooting, suddenly everyone starts talking. Guess what literally never, ever happens in pve lobbies.
>>3064890He’s right. I’ve had the same experience. You are a gorilla nigger
>>3064937>I've had the same experience as myself
holy shit frigate is impossible soloeveryone just runs around looting the shitty containers instead of shooting the cores
>>3064897shooting and talking is maybe 1 out of every 20 raids. that is if someone dropped their behavior to rat. its chung, most people are too busy looting and running past each other to the extract. people are not holding a kumbaya circle in the middle of the map. crazy to think that people were complaining about ABMM lobbies being this no mic lobby full of people blantanly looting each others key rooms and big arc kills and when pve rolls around, all of a sudden ABMM lobbies were some of the most talkative and among us lobbies around and pve is this horrible evil thing that must never be implemented in the game.>>3064937dishonest rat.>shopping simulator in ABMM lobbies is okay>shopping simulator in pve lobbies is NOT okay
>>3064897thats how I know if I'm in mixed or friendly lobbies>MIXED LOBBIES DONT FUCKING EXIST k buddy, keep shitposting and sounding retarded to everyone who plays the game
>>3064954yea its annoyingI figured>ok if I kill these hydras myself>thats like 4 containers>finish killing the hydra>5 people run up and start breaching all the loot spots>theyre getting lit on fire>they die>???>check it>its some naked guy that probably shoveed whatever was valuable in his safepocket and just didnt care
>>3064968I've only ever seen the Frigate payload once, and it was only me and one other guy who got there and we didn't have the time to destroy everything surrounding itlike yeah, the Frigate should be hard, but currently it's impossible unless at least half of the lobby bands together to do itand they wontthis is also the very first raid I've gotten attacked TWICE in for months, the PvE mode is definitely taking players out of PvPvE leaving the pvp hellscape fags with the rest of us
If you were trying to buddy buddy me while I'm in my chung lobbies, I'd keep my camera pinned on you until you are as far away as possible from me. Real chungs don't stop and chat, only rats stop and chat and try to team up. Real chungs got shit to do, material to gather, arc to kill. Real chungs give a simple greeting and leave each other alone. That fake friendliness is for the rats.
>>3063650It's pretty funny that PvE lobbies are more toxic because no one has to pretend to be polite.
>>3065034>guy is friendly with me and making some nice convo>all of a sudden betrays me>"bro what the hell, I thought you were cool?? WE WERE GOING TO KILL THE BOMBADIER AND BE THE BOMBARDIER BROTHERS">no response>for some reason he muted his mic after he started attacking me
>>3064950So you’re mad and schizo
>>3065334nta you were arguing with, it was just pretty obvious you're pretending to be someone new to support your own point
>>3065340Im not that anon for fucks sake. Is it really too unbelievable that two people have the same experience in this fucking game
>>3065208>>for some reasonbecause he is a coward and is afraid of confrontation. which is why he has to resort to ratting and doesnt have the balls to tell you to shut up via mic.
>>3065090nobody has to pretend to be polite in chung lobbies, you can be as much of a dick as you want because you know they know if they shoot you they get sent awaymeanwhile in pve mode you give even the hyperaggro players a free ticket to troll peaceful players
>>3065386Its some legit sociopath behaviorChat someone up to get them comfortable, and when its time they flip the switch because its not needed anymore
Frigate fix is so easy its unreal. Just make all the shitty containers contain nothing of value, so nakeds can't be fucking niggers. It's a doubly bad problem because the dungeon is long and hard, so you need as many geared people as possible, and all the nakeds take up player slots in the raid. Baffling that embark did not account for this... is what I would say, were my opinion of all swedes not that they deserve to get raped by browns.
>>3065493The next step from here is to write an article about how gamers are toxic and should be ashamed of themselves. Ask anita sarkeesian and zoe quinn for tips on the specifics.
>>3061814Your post got updooted on reddit! Congrats!!!https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x5km3h/anon_summarizes_the_state_of_the_community/
>>3065525Frigate needs its end loot buffed, emperor needs to be nerfed. It is totally backwards that the easier path(emperor) is the most rewarded while the hardest path is least rewarded (frigate) No reason to run frigate once you have the emperor key BP.
>>3065535xDDDD epic!
>>3065606I'm not the one unironically calling people shooting each other in a shooting game sociopathic. Check yourself.
>>3065609>shooting peoplelittle disingenuous are we?
>>3065609I don't give a fuck about people shooting each other, its the social aspect of befriending someone with the intent to betray that makes it sociopathic
>>3065613yeah, as is typical of people who enjoy making mountains out of molehills.>>3065635it's not that deep, don't be a fucking pussy and revert to clinical psychology terms to describe your experience in a video game. just pay attention and shoot them.
>>3065663not either of those anons, but you sound like a huge faggot
>>3065671wow, sociopathic much? maybe you should consider other people's feelings before you engage in such hostile social behavior.
>>3065663same guy who says loli drawings mean nothing
>>3065733its actually very social to discourage unacceptable behavior
>>3065762agreed. you should pay attention to other players when you have no guarantee that they won't shoot you, and if you have a problem with this game design then you should either alter your behavior or stop playing, instead of demanding that things change to suit you specifically. that is unacceptable.
>>3065773>demanding that things change to suit you specificallyadd that to the list of things that never happened
>>3065453already had an obviously white guy calling people the n word
>>3065599dont you need the Frigate Transductor or some shit for level 4 workbenchthat emporer thing you can find anywhere, I got mine in a surveyor on buried city
>>3065833>dont you need the Frigate Transductor or some shit for level 4 workbenchyeah but you only need to run it once. meanwhile for the endless amp upgrades and repair, you can slam emperor endlessly with little investment and difficulty. itd make it much more interesting if amps were more abundant in the one thing that requires actual gear investment.
>>3065773>instead of demanding that things change to suit you specifically.calling someone crazy = demanding the game change?
>>3065800I must have imagined all those people complaining about rats and demanding a pve mode then
>>3065903there's literally no other reason that people demanded pve mode, other than the fact that they don't want to engage with pvp. and the most common version of this complaint comes hand in hand with complaining about "rats" i.e., "I have shit game sense and pattern recognition"
I dont even understand the people complaing about "rats"Im in pussy lobby and nobody ever shoot
>bombardier kill gives 14 launcher ammo with the road warrior skill
>>3065910I never asked for a pve mode, dont invent ghosts and ascribe their opinions to me.
Whats da best way to farm research points bros
>>3066020open containers
>>3066020I've just been looting normally and finding tons of that stuffseems those pink ones drop from wasps/hornets, not guaranteed though, but pretty good
>>3065949I don't get it either. For duos and trios I understand but why would anyone want solo pve hard toggle? ABMM already does that. Is dying once every hundred raids really that traumatizing?
I cant fucking find had drills.
>>3066150Is it the blue rarity hand drills? Me neither. I found 3 in some random containers but I must have played 50 raids since the update and those 3 are the only ones I've found so far.
>>3066020stella montislike most things
>>3066224I have two and been at this for two hours trying to find the third because I have all the components for EVERYTHING else for the research table upgrades clogging my storage.
>>3066272baffling why it isnt nerfed or gated somehow yet
Played PvE for a few hours yesterday. It was really strange, like dead/sterile. There was no talking, when people did talk you could tell they were an autistic social reject. All Arc were dead within minutes, it reminded me of end of season when everyone is doing damage. It was nice being able to do that stupid Apollo quest but I didn't really enjoy myself.
>>3066289pretty much everyone with a brain predicted this. pve mode has nothing that makes this game special
>>3065956Road warrior is probably the best of the top tree green perks. Mostly looking at the full salvage that could be handy on long looting runs.
>>3065956Im just glad launcher ammo spawns in the world now. It was so fucking stupid that the only way to get the ammo was to buy or craft it
>>3066150>>3066020All of the new shit you need is in the weather sheds on Pendola Pass
>>3066289Do the Emperor dungeon on PvE so you can just focus on it.
>>3066400Thanks, I got my laser levels with lucky proximity to these.
*sigh*had to put another ninja looter down today
>amplifying a weapon doesn't repair it like upgrading doesrip my rattler
>queue stella day raid>2 mins before I just cancelled it>try pve stella day raid>4 secs and I'm in a fresh raidyeah, it's negatively impacting pvpve queue times just like I thought.
>>3067119works fine on my machine
>>3066583I don't have the key BP. All the Redirection events are happening when I'm asleep or at work, so probably going to have to trade for it. Also I would really like to have more than 0 practice before I enter that death trap.
>>3066136for some people, yes
>>3067119not NA? it seems to be fine over here, even in the random hours I play
>>3066583wont people just take all my loot
>>3067119All the pvptards in your bracket are too busy trolling in the pve lobbies
>>3067322I'm in friendly lobbies, retard>>3067306NA, but crossplay is off because I don't want to play with consoleniggers, has been off since launch.
i dont get the pve toggledidnt the game already put you into lobbies with other friendlies if you didnt just gun down everything like a maniaci pretty much never get shot
>>3067356how is it so hard to comprehend people will not touch a game with pvp in it, that and the duos and trios who want "friendly" lobbies so they can hunt arc and do quests with their friends
I know I'm posting this again, but hoiy shit the amount of women I've ran into
>>3067374>amount of womendoesnt this game have a built-in voice changer
>>3067374in the pve mode*
>>3067376unless it changed, you can usually tell
>get a bunch of the other yellow frigate parts instead of the one needed to upgrade the benchafter a dozen tries I give up
>>3067370>how is it so hard to comprehend people will not touch a game with pvp in itfine with me if they don't pla. the game doesn't need 200k concurrent players to flourish.>that and the duos and trios who want "friendly" lobbies so they can hunt arc and do quests with their friendsnot my problem
>>3067370monetary incentive faggots can rope together with preference-warping negroids
>>3067419>>3067423the mode is likely not for you guys thenalso investors/devs want profit, so yea, obviously appealing to more people is what they want to donot saying this is good or bad, but this is basically fact unless it somehow comes out that Embark is just that benevolant dev that really cares about pve only players, even before their own audience
>>3067481>also investors/devs want profit, so yea, obviously appealing to more people is what they want to doThe devs have pushed back for nearly a year saying pvpve is the game and pve is coming. They're not all of a sudden turning because of profit, they're just doing this test so people will shut the fuck up and stop whining.
>>3067481>>3067502would be nice for a change to have a dev that tells the players straight up "we do not sell what you want"
>>3067507that makes so much sense>you know what guys, we dont want moneyhow has nobody ever thought of that
>>3067517>t. idiot
>>3067517>game can't make money unless it caters to every single personk
>>3067374Women love arc. You have no excuse not to have your own AR girlfriend by now.
helldiverfag eternally vindicated
>>3067802Helldivers 2 was a mistakeI've seen so many retards posting "fixes" for the PvE toggle and they just amount to "turn the game into Helldivers 2". And some of them even straight up admit they think the game would be more fun if it stole a bunch of shit from HD2Genuinely what is wrong with PvEtards
>>3065554I confess, I stole anon's post I genuinely thought people would just downvote it and move on but I guess anon really resonated with the redditors
>>3067860>Helldivers 2 was a mistakesurprisingly it's the breeding ground for faggots like thisthey spend every day inbetween patches crying to nerf enemies into the ground and buff the player while devs eternally bend the knee
>>3067802man I just cant understand these faggotswhy on earth would you buy a multiplayer pvp game and then want it to be a single player pve gamenigga just buy a different game wtf?
>>3067881and when they run out of room to grow they scream "no content"astonishing parallels you can draw here.
>>3067881>>3067972>>3067977they're genuinely some of the worst scum in gaming communities entitled fucking faggots demanding games change for their sake and when someone calls them out on it they pull no us and all kinds of mental gymnastics to make you sound like the entitled one for trying to deny their experience
>>3067984internet hitler can't come sooner with digital eugenics
I got my ass handed to me after the Emperor dungeon on PvE because of just so many damn arc. I'm mad but I approve.
Frigate is full of PvPers in carebear lobbies now because of the PvE toggleThis is my third time dying since they added the toggleAnd before this I went months without seeing a single hostile player
>>3068018how's that saying go? you got what you wished for but not what you wanted?
>>3068031NTA, do you think every player in carebear lobbies wants PvE mode? Because you're fucking retarded if you do.
>>3068050begone woman
>gets called out for saying something retarded>act more like a retardgreat rebuttal, retard
>>3067977I see it pointed out PvE would run out of content too quickly, and the response is always that the devs can just sling more resources and manpower into extra PvE conditions, enemies, and tweaks. They don't see how this could detract from the rest of the game, or that devs would never be able to keep up with expectations of nolifers who already cleared all content in a week now having even less obstacles to doing so. It's important to note the playercount didn't actually increase with PvE. It's remained steady around 150k since Frozen Trail dropped. I'm only pointing this out because clearly their 6 month plan for major content updates is viable. But soon we'll be back to regular doomsaying over lack of content, accelerated by the most passive players speedrunning 100% completion, emboldened by believing the devs will cater to them by removing the challenge. They'll piss and moan and the more the devs listen the more the original vision will be stripped away. They already want arc to stop shooting at downed players, solo servers with no competition for loot, etc.It might sound like a strawman but this is exactly how it's gone in PvE games since the Helldivers 2 plague escaped containment. Arrowhead fucked up and created the most entitled playerbase in gaming.
>>3068121>tldr pacing is nonexistent and it's all "DOPAMINE NOW"yea>>3068085>does the "not every man">gets called a womanall things are in order
>>3068132ironic that it would be the man saying not every man and its (You) complaining about the man while calling the man a woman
>>3068162impressive mental gymnastics
here let me summarize the next week>I think pve mode was a dumb idea>so why did you ask for it>I didn't ask for it retard
I didn't ask for it but I like it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x6cw6c/saved_three_people_stuck_in_a_hut_cuz_of_griefers/console players are animals
Frozen Trail is cool but bi-yearly release cadence for updates is absolutely going to kill the game in the long term.
>AAAAAAHHH pve mode is just full of griefers andnot my matchesturns out they lief about ABMM and you guys are just in lobbies filled with other griefers
>>3068581>lieflied
vaults on vaults on vaults is definitely bugged, it still takes stamina. really astounded at how these swedish fucks manage to break something integral every single update
>>3068581I use it to farm the pass while using my good gear.
>>3068551it will be fine. 2 big updates a year, especially as they stop doing whole system implementation allowing them to more fully focus on sole content additions will ensure the game is not going anywhere.
man PvPvE lobbies are just FUCKED now>Night Stella Montis>spawn in and start looting >it's eerily quiet>go around the map>everything is unlooted>fill up>timetoleave.mp4>call the extract>Bobcat IV faggot arrives right on time>tries to stun me at the console like I'm some kind of retard>start blasting the fag with my Tempest IV>a shredder AGGROES ME AND GETS ME>check his Steam profile>level 0, 1 friend, games private>reportI know Embark is not going to give my shit back, and it pisses me off. Not that I lost them, as I got what I needed from the raid in my safepocket (a quest item and a deadline bp) but because it's the principleI shouldn't have to lose my gear because of Embark's incompetence at banning these faggots And even more so, my lobbies are FUCKED because Embark is fucking around with the PvE toggleIt would be funny, if it wasn't a game I actually want to like that it was happening to
>>3068729to add, I guess it's a good idea to just run shitty grey gear until the PvE toggle test is overbecause fuck this
>>3068729I want to say I haven't had too many issues in pvpve but I've been running a shit kit of bant, sm shield, and 2 gray heal / arc power cells / adrenaline. I don't think I'm loading in with enough to queue with hacker fags, but it's lame embark hasn't fixed hacker shit - like they're spending money or something.
>>3068780yeah it sucks, I'm gonna have to run poverty loadouts for a week until the PvE toggle is goneand even so, some faggot that should be in PvP lobbies getting you still feels bad because you're not ready for it, as ABMM has conditioned you into believing you're safe
>have to kill turbines not only for aphelion research but also for compressors to make slug rounds because they thought it would be a good idea to remove them from couriers>sit on top of a building for 17 minutes and get forced to write it all off as a loss because it simply didn't spawn>retarded faggots keep shooting it so it never goes down for a quick kill with deadlines>retarded faggots steal your extremely rare lootTruly incredible. Did they really not take a single piece of feedback on the damage turbines trial into account when designing this shit? Is the developer who loves the bantam the same one who loves this level of fucking annoying rng?
>>3068050If they didn't want it, then they wouldn't be in carebear lobbies, they would be in mixed lobbies because they would shoot people when appropriate/when they felt like it. Don't call it a grave, this is the future you chose when you didn't call for the removal of abmm in the first place.
>>3067989Are you joking? How do you die to arc in pve mode after completing the emperor dungeon? The extract is right there, and the only remotely dangerous thing in the area is a bully, which you can easily avoid by just going in a building. Are you the player that pve mode was designed for?
>>3068836>dead game dead game its over for arc raiders this time see you in six months
>>3068845See you next time you complain about something that could have been fixed if you didn't ignore this when you bought the game
>>3068869>See you next time you complain about somethingI'm perfectly happy though. Unlike you, my complaints are not about dying to rats or ABMM.
>>3068879Of course, that's why you felt the need to randomly defend the proclivities of people who enjoy carebear lobbies, and who overwhelmingly called for a pve toggle because they felt the devs didn't go far enough with abmm. Because you're totally satisfied.
>>3068885I can call someone a retard for acting like a retard and still be happy
Anyone else's queue times being longer than usual? (normal raids, non PvE)
>>3068919fine on my end but i have crossplay turned on, looks like crossplay off has taken a hit though
>>3068869no way, he actually did the meme response>MOOOOM IT SAYS IT ON THE BOX THAT MEANS IT HAS TO BE OBJECTIVELY TRUE IN THIS UNIVERSE
>>3068885You fags act like this toggle is permanent and not a one week test
just did the emperor map for the first timeyou literally just walk in kill 1 hydra and loot a bunch of shit??
>>3068977>devs that think some meme rush or a 2 foot wall climb are worthy of end skill tree nodes also cant properly balance their progression and loot systemswell duh
>>3068951You don't see me complaining about a lack of pvp content in helldivers or deeprock. It's objectively true that arc raiders was designed with pvp and launched to 500 million dollars in success.
>>3068995oh youre just shitposting
>>3069009No, you're shitposting and strawmanning. They realized the game was fucking boring without pvp during development, so they added it. Now they removed it for a subsection of the playerbase who didn't realize how fucking boring it would be, not just for them but for other players too. The only objective truth in this situation is that the product that found $500 million in success, had pvp in it.
>>3068082I'm a man, sweaty>>3068836I'm in carebear lobbies and I don't want it. I defend myself and kill those that steal my loot and don't stop when confronted. I actually did the latter yesterday.
>>3069051>you're shitposting and strawmanninghmm nothats you
>>3069221Then you'd have no problem admitting that it is objectively true that arc raiders launched to massive success with pvp enabled. But I think we both know you'd rather cope about that in some way instead of just facing the truth.
>>3068934yeah I play with crossplay offno way I want stinky console players in my lobbies
>>3069268So how exactly does an extra PVE mode take away from that again?
>>3069346See: you'd rather cope about that in some way instead of just facing the truth.
>>3069356So how exactly does an extra PVE mode take away from that again?
>>3069377If it didn't, then there would be no debate in the first place. Example: go on reddit right now and you can see people debating the merits of having completely separate characters and stashes for pve mode. I would explain the details of why this matters, but it seems like it would be akin to leading a horse to water at this point. Just know that you are completely wrong.
>>3068934same here, sof ar its just same fag ITT larping and not playing the game and then pointing to reddit that larps and doesnt play the game
>>3069447>If it didn't, then there would be no debate in the first place.Yes, it takes away your right to shoot unsuspecting pve players.
>>3069519Also known as: Playing the game, not a fundamentally changed version of the game.
GOD I HATE THIS STUPID BLUEPRINT SYSTEM It'd be so easy to change it too. Greens can be found anywhere, blue and higher can only be found in high loot zones, key rooms and bosses. I saved the canto BP from the last event but in this wipe, I managed to find a Bobcat BP in some random container during Hurricane. The best gun in the game I was able to find before a green or blue weapon BP. That is so fucking retarded and ruins any sense of progression and that is not fun. I should have a reason to use the hobo weapons and then graduate to more powerful weapons but no. I find the BiS gun in some random container for no effort. Absolutely stupid and backwards game design. It frustrates me to no end. In fact, this wipe I managed to find more blue and pink BPs than green. I found 2 blue gun BPs and not been able to find a single green gun BP. Ridiculous.
>>3069566you can... research the bps on the benchwould be nice if you could recycle extra bps for research points though
>>3069544>not a fundamentally changed version of the game.ABMM has always been about making sure people dont get shot, pve mode is the logical conclusion to ABMM. Nothing has been fundamentally changed.
>>3069590nta but this is some gaslighting shit nigga
>>3069590ABMM has not always been in the game, and it was obviously the first erroneous step on this path that has culminated in debates over whether or not it should even exist in the first place. I'm just going to pretend you're smart enough to understand what I'm saying, because the alternative is accepting that 90IQ midwits have the same voting power as I do.
>>3069609>ABMM has not always been in the gameIt was there since day 1
>>3069624Source: the fairies that also tell me the pve mode changes absolutely nothing about the game.
>>3069624>the faggot is full swing gaslighting that day 1 lobbies played the same as now
>>3069631>>3069629let me guess, you think ABMM was added when the devs said it was? it was always here. it was simply calibrating because the sheer amount of new people joining the game hence the more mixed lobbies during the first couple of months. the game kept growing for like 3 months straight.
>>3069642>the lolcow went from "no it didn't work that way" to "yeah it actually was different" in a single post
>>3069629>>3069631>Ultra sweaty streamers keep queueing into each other team 3 times in a row despite a 400k playerbase>People who keep dying are suddenly matched against potato every time>When asked point blank about MM, the dev adress it by dodging the question entirelyGee I wonder what was happening there
>>3069657taking time to calibrate because of the vast amount of new players does not mean ABMM was not there retard-kun. ABMM being in the game from the get-go clearly means it was a fundamental design of the game, which is what you like to argue. the fundamental design. you got btfo by your own logic because ABMM was part of this fundamental design.
>>3068526This is why I am pro open carry. You need to be able to shoot people for acting niggardly. If you can't shoot people, they can act niggardly without consequence and everyone suffers.PvE only is basically "0 tolerance no violence zone" where criminals can do whatever they want.
>>3069673>ABMM being in the game from the get-go clearly means it was a fundamental design of the gameHuh, kind of like how shooting people was a fundamental design of the game. But... wait a minute... my super advanced white brain is working.....>>3069590>ABMM has always been about making sure people dont get shot, pve mode is the logical conclusion to ABMM. Nothing has been fundamentally changed.Wow! It's almost like you're a disingenuous faggot who can't keep a single thought straight in your retarded mutt brain!
>>3069710>kind of like how shooting people was a fundamental design of the gameNot true otherwise ABMM would have never been added. ABMMs entire purpose is to ensure people do not get shot.>Wow! It's almost like you're a disingenuous faggot who can't keep a single thought straight in your retarded mutt brain!ABMM to pve is the endgame, both serve to make sure people do not get shot. Sorry you cant follow a simple logical process.
this guy is weirdly invested on trolling about this game
>>3069749pvebabs are generally not trolling, this is just how they are
So what's the play to get a frigate part? Just run a scrap a bunch of buttons or do the whole thing? Do people even try to complete the puzzle in solo?
>>3069749not even playing ithe just wants to debate people on 4chan in bad faithyou see it in this thread>schizo is a disingenuous faggot>but calls others disingenuous fags for interacting with his schizo assall so that he can have the last reply and think he's won some internet debate, its pretty clear when he's trying to argue something nuanced as "fact"
>>3069760snaphook.rush to breachable capsules before others.pray.
>>3069758PvE game get used to it. Go play Marathon if you want a PvP gam- oh wait they're adding PvE too. lel get fucked.
>he went full poopjeet
>>3069771That's fucking assMaybe this whole game was a giant psyop to warn us about the danger of socialism
>>3069760I gave up, but yea, seems that way, you are just supposed to rush all the containers and loot them and then leave, bonus if you're naked and can just suicide, or have a survivor and jump off the ship, and just easily crawl to extract, though some poeple are taking advantage of that and looting anyone who falls from the frigate along with all the arc shit that falls offI'm just going to trade on metaforge when I run out of things to do ingame, amped weapons seem cool, but as a casual player who doesnt just run into places naked to get the piece I want, it feels kind of out of reach at the moment
>>3069734>Not trueI wonder what it must be like to live like this, just completely ignoring objective reality day to day. Let me dumb it down for you: Shooting other players is a fundamental design of the game. Even with cancerous ABMM, you can still shoot other players. In the new pve mode, you cannot shoot other players, ergo, the design of the game has been fundamentally changed. The purpose of ABMM is not to ensure people do not get shot, it is an attempt to create "fairness" and "enjoyment" in the matchmaking. And unlike you, I actually have a source for my argument. You will notice how nothing in this article makes mention of removing the fundamental ability to engage other players in a firefight, simply what kind of matches you usually get into.https://arcraiders.com/news/notes-on-the-matchmaking-systemIn the Rust Belt, the kind of Raider you become should be up to you.Topside works because it’s unpredictable. You can never be sure if you can trust the people you meet, or how dangerous they might be. That freedom - and the uncertainty it creates - is what drives the tension, the encounters, and the choices that make every run feel like its own story.At the same time, we don’t want dedicated PvP players to consistently steamroll Raiders who aren’t as interested in PvP, or who are still finding their footing. So our matchmaking is built around two goals: Fairness: We do our best to match players who have a similar likelihood of succeeding in the round. One simple example: we prioritize matching equal squad sizes where possible. Enjoyment: We do our best to match players who are likely to have fun together. In practice, we’ve found that matching players based on playstyle drives enjoyment and reduces friction.And like any matchmaking system, we pursue those goals while respecting real constraints, such as matchmaking time and latency.
>>3069793maybe read that guys whole post before respondingthis is what makes you seem ESLI remember talking to my BR friend, and he would only respond to sentence fragments and I had to talk to him in broken english for his brain to translate what I was saying to him
>>3069793>Shooting other players is a fundamental design of the gameThat's actually a late addition. Arc Raiders was supposed to be a PVE game.
>>3069784this is what abmm gets you man, everyone is shitting their pants for karma so you can't shoot leeches off and do the event with people who came in for actual work, you're just busy trying to loot something for yourselfit was foretold long ago, nobody listened
>>3069793>The purpose of ABMM is not to ensure people do not get shot,Yes it is, otherwise it would not have been so strict. The devs also said they recently added in ABMM but players knew months before that something was up with the lobbies and matchmaking. The devs can say its about "fairness" and "equality" but it is obviously about giving people a PvE lobby for all intents and purposes. It is why ABMM isn't a direct copy of SBMM even though they're similar. ABMM took into account not only kills but simply damage. Accidently shoot a raider, back to the shadowrealm for you.That is not a system intended for "fairness" that is a system intended so those who don't want to get shot will not get shot. PvE does not fundamentally change that ultimate goal ABMM set out to reach.You are reaching because you know PvE being so ingrained by the devs completely discredits your argument about fundamental design, when PvE is baked right into that fundamental design.
>>3069808I am replying to the whole thing, including the previous statements, which contradict what is being said now. Shooting people, for whatever reason - be it simple aggression, revenge for stolen loot, or defending your key room - has always been a fundamental part of the game. Pve mode changes this fundamental design, full stop.>>3069846Look, this is all just nonsense cope to get avoid acknowledging this simple fact. The game is completely different, and the debate is by no means as settled as this retarded faggot seems to think. It is truly incredible to see what lengths people will go to try and change something, and then deny that they have changed anything. Kind of like how niggers and faggots invade things and then castigate the original founders as heretics. See: the SCP project.
>>3069876>Kind of like how niggers and faggots invade things and then castigate the original founders as heretics. See: the SCP project.this is why you practice digital eugenics for your community
>>3069876>this is all just nonsense cope to get avoid acknowledging this simple fact.That is what you are doing. Projection on your part and failing to admit that ABMM has been and will always be about making PvE and PvP lobbies. Pure PvE is the next thing after playing around with pseudo-pve lobbies. ABMM and PvE has been fundamental to the game. Look at this chart one side is PvE and the other is PvP.
>>3069891Maybe you need to pick up a dictionary. "Unlikely" does not mean "impossible". Those are two separate words, with two completely different meanings. You are wrong because your fundamental understanding is wrong. I suspect deliberately, but that's just because I'm cynical.
>>3069935>"Unlikely" does not mean "impossible".You need to pick up on your reasoning and thinking skills. In practice, that "unlikely" is get shot once every hundred raids. That is damn near guaranteed pve lobbies. Play the game and realize how strict the matchmaking is. In fact, people in these threads were always bitching about how tight the matchmaking is and/or was. For all intents and purposes you never ever got shot and still do not get shot in the pve lobbies.You still refuse to acknowledge that pve was ingrained into the game from the start.ABMM=PvE. Embark just decided they may as well say the quiet part outloud.
>>3069891>Illustrative chart for explanation purposes - not real matchmaking telemetry.anon...
Reminder that Embark basically had to be tortured before admitting they had ABMM(SBMM) in their gameThey knew it would fuck up the game if people knew, and it didUltimately the final truth about all of this is that Embark cant design a multiplayer game
>>3069992This is how westerners were tricked into thinking subhuman brownoids were basically no different from northern europeans. Please kill yourself immediately.
>>3070029Yeah we know the real matchmaking is a million times more strict than what the chart implies. Some cheater who runs Stella Montis all day will never ever find himself in a PvE lobby, youd need to deliberately tank your ABMM score to get into those lobbies. That unlikely really needs to be changed to NEVER.
>>3069935lmfaoESL cope by pointing to the dictionarynot that anon, but fucking lol
if ABMM is already super duper rigid why do we need a PvE mode
>>3070095Rats gaming the system
>>3070095ABMM doesnt work for duos and trios since nearly everyone murders on there
so ABMM isn't super duper rigid then
>>3070095holy shit moron we've been through this1 is people who will NEVER touch pvp EVERRRRR2 is duos and trios bros finally getting to kill some robots
is this game worth picking up just now or should I wait? seems like it's going through some shit and everyone seems miserable but I like the idea of it
ok finally did the emperor, not sure if I got lucky but I found some spare containers to loot, really just need to get thatstupid ass frigate piece that is only used for the workbenchat least seems possible to repair and stuff, I thought emperor would be immediately looted everywhere
>>3070138worth picking up its just people mad they wont be able to shoot niggas in the back because of pve mode potentially being added later
>>3070126>2 is duos and trios bros finally getting to kill some robotsQuite possibly the most retarded justification of pve ever. Robots get rolled by duos and trios 100% of the time.
>>3070138ingame has been completely normal for me, nobody ever has gripes or complaints besides like>THIS FUCKING HORNET SHOCKED ME AGAINhere and reddit have some weird trolls that larp about being pure PvPvE players so that they can complain and ciritize decisions the devs make for pve or pvphalf the time you find out some retard shitposting about the game hasnt played in half a year and is talking out his ass about something thats been patcheslike>guy spamming about he loves ruining friendly players time>he purposefully tanks his ABMM to get into friendly lobbies>then kills the whole lobbyis what he was posting, until someone pointed out, they had patched out suiciding to lower your ABMM, and he just moved on to a different topic to be a fag aboutRight now, its the PvE toggle, it is a test lasting a week, but this guy and others are acting like its permanent and then end of the world for PvPvE (which shitpoters have said doesnt exist anymore because of ABMM) but it does exist when its conveinent to cry about
>>3070138I think it's a good game overallWe're mostly ranting about how it could be great but waste its potential here, I still have 300h on it
>>3070158you just being one of those fagsme: women are people who can get pregnantyou: SO MENOPAUSE MEANS THEYRE NOT A WOMAN ANYMORE??? SO WHEN I FUCKED MY MOM SHE WAS TECHNICALLY A BOY? RETARD, I WIN THE ARGUMENT
>>3070179No clue what the fuck you're talking about but literally no duos or trios player was begging to be able to shoot 10% of the arc that weren't already decimated by other duos and trios in the match, and then not be allowed to take out their frustration or boredom by shooting other players.
>>3070138Good game, great in-game community, shitty online community.
>>3070187ohhh its the ESL guy, ok
>>3069585It is more about the game losing that sense of progression because to get the gear in the game is down to dumb luck opening random containers. I understand dumb luck is at the root of every looting game but every looting game has specific areas and bosses to kill and a certain investment one must make to get better gear. Not in this game you open more boxes doesnt matter where or when open more boxes.
>>3070126>1 is people who will NEVER touch pvp EVERRRRRThen they shouldn't play extraction shooters, my dude>2 is duos and trios bros finally getting to kill some robotsYou could llimit it to duo and trio then I guess? It fucks with normal solo queues when you remove a chunk of the friendly players. It's not my problem if people want to do cawadoody but in arc raiders and are upset they can't farm together. Go farm solo or go play actual cawadoody. Stellafags are fucking retarded.
NA, crossplay off.Grim.
man I just cant get over how butt ugly celeste is nowis there a mod that fixes it?
>>3070889Mod for an always online always hotfixing game. Doubt.
I HATE THEM
anyone make their amped weapon yet? what did you make
>>3070889seriously, it fucking sucks, and she looks like a bitchno mods
>>3072409kind of too grindy for me, buit I guess its an endgame thing, still need the gold thing from the emperor and the gold thing from the frigate, I have some amplification modules, I think that lets me amp weapons? but yea I need the gold shit first
How long is left in this seasons trial? I cant login :( is it on the forge?
after searching 1 gorillion cars i finally found the last gear i need inside a blue container
>>3071438Kill the shredders. Kill their wives and children too.
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>>3073325>he fell for the car/bus memejust open the green breachables in stella loading bay (or those same ones on any map)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1x7bd2k/the_community_is_really_showing_their_true_colors/PvEbab tears taste so goodthey thought the PvE mode would be their home run, their safe spaceand how wrong they weretoxicity is through the roof and all they can do is cry some more, just like they've cried for the past year about needing a safe space
>>3074494carebears knew that the social contract of being shot at kept them in check from doing stupid shit like this, without the threat of violence there is nothing stopping them.
>>3073779riventides is also goated for gears
>put a stencil on my anvil>never see it
The PvE mode finally let me try out all the legendary weapons. My ranking from best to worst:>Jupiter>Dolabra>Equalizer>Aphelion
Actually I'd replace the Dolabra with the Equalizer. Dolabra is fun in close quarters but Equalizer is basically a ray gun.
The biggest mistake with ABMM was the Embark admitting it was a thing in the first place.Even if people had a suspicion of it real a thing they could've just shut the fuck up and let the so called "conspiracy theorists" act like so and we would have had ABMM without people trying to game it to get in specific lobbies, or at least to a lesser degree.
>>3074665I remember all the shitposters calling people schizo because they pointed it outThen a month later embark confirmed itAnd now they're like "adding ABMM killed this gamer" when it launched with it
pve mode is pretty fun
>>3074876its literally the same as the normal mode
>>3074905>STOP HAVING FUN!!!
>Stiletto lets you harass from long range for dirt cheap>Bantam lets you get up close and finish in styleWTF? I love the stiletto and bantam now?
hows your guys outpostI have so much extra storage space from the furniture, apparently those shelves in the main area next to your room hold like 12 items each, I think you can replace them with weapon racks instead if you prefer that
>>3074922ive been telling you guys the bantam was lowkey good. 22 damage at a fast clip?havent tried the stiletto yet though.
>>3074928oh and the items stackgonna be nice to keep all the random shit I might need for traders
>>3074928I fucking hate the stupid outpostI want to get back to speranza and take the research table with me
>>3074928>>3075005what is the name of the bookcase. that is great for the random junk in case of events.
>>3074941Bantam is not as good as the Anvil, but is still fun as fuck, and is a great option as a "fuck off" gun in panic situations. >havent tried the stiletto yet thoughIt's basically a Kettle DMR, great for killing flying arc and for player harassment at distance. Also, everytime I pop smoke and blind fire through it, the other guy is nervous to push through. It's replaced the Ferro as my default budget gun desu.
>>3075053the shelf is "Chambers Shelf"but it seems limited, the only other place I've been able to place 1 is the studious roomdtheres also a Diner Cupboard that can be placed in a few more places, that also holds 16 items, I'm putting extra fruit in mineotherwise you can just hover over the furniture ingame and it tells you the slots
holy shit I got it!guess I should spam emperor shit
is it possible to ride a rocketeer?hooked one with the green grappling hook but it completely spazzed out and flug me super hard when i tried to get ontop of it
>>3075688you can with snaphook, but it does a back flip after a certain amount of time
>>3075065Bantam is a quirky little gun. You can hip fire faster than when ADS, so when hipfiring you can kill an anvil user, but when at range the anvil is probably going to best you. I like it, but I have too many purple and blue guns to select over it.
I'm all for shit talk and banter but these PvE mode players act real cunty when they know they can't get shot in the head.
>>3075521where in the frigate? deep or early on?
>>3075920one of those breachable things on top by the hydra protecting it, the one closer to the middle that you can kind of use as cover from the hydra if once its breached if you know that part
>>3075911yeaor completely silentits whatevermost someone said to me today was asking if I had extra adrenaline
>>3075860I came back after a break and I felt betrayed that I couldn't use the anvil off the rip like before, but I like the bantam. It not having mods is... questionable to me, but it keeps my loadouts cheap.
>reddit mods pinning pvpfag shitposts>half the replies are going "why the fuck is this gay shit pinned?"
>>3074928You can get shelves that hold 5 that can go in any floor spot, and tables that hold 10 in the large floor spots, so using the wall racks for guns is best
>>3076092I just dont have a huge stock of guns, but yea I can see it being good
>>3076092theres also a 16-slot shelf for medium slots
>"those frigate things are bitches to find I probably looted like 100 containers"thanks rng, I think i looted like 30 total
>>3076075I saw that too. Mods pinned a post saying something like>Heh you pve'rs got what you wanted looks like we were right all along to say pve was a dumb idea
Is pve not what people expected then? They feel like carebear lobbies but without the soul you sometimes see Or the occasional kid trying to blend in before he shoots you
>>3076219default crying to get things handed to them by the devsnobody wants to adapt or learn being the main problem or even accept that they were wrong
>>3076143they deleted some PvE posts too so it doesnt give off the impression people are having fun, keep all thos PvPfag posts though in their weird hostile PvE lobbies, meanwhile everyone is defibbing and helping each other in my PvE lobbies
>>3076219theres a subgroup of people who wanted to do a "solo lobby" that are maybe upsetotherwise people are having funor just not using the toggle and playing the game how they always haveor some guys get to finally play with their girlfriendsonly a bunch of weird trolls who havent played the game in half a year are crying about it
ok now I gotta spam emperor and do all this reseaarch
PvE is fun because I can bring legendary weapons without having to worry some shitter with a free loadout will blast me while I'm looting a cupboard. I actually bring in epics as well now, whereas in PvPvE I mostly only rock greens/blues. I'm still not sure if I want PvE to be a separate mode or a map condition though.
>>3076599yea I liked it for trials too>bring in a full loadout of snitch scanners and those turret things>dont have to worry about someong shooting me in the back
>>3076757Trials is probably the worst thought out thin in the game>Here go have fun running around picking plants for an hour using an external map>Oh and the difficulty is based on time of day and day of the week that you play the game>Also you lose all your progress if someone extract camps you btw
>>3076757Another fun thing about having legendaries is that you're basically a VIP in the lobby. You'd come across people trying to kill big ARC with Anvils and then you just blast it for them and they sound so grateful. Way more fulfilling than PvP for me. I haven't really done PvP since around launch anyway.
>>3076930yea thats been nice>see someone fighting >go help them>if its a big arc get it on fire and let them kill it
trying purple guns in PVP lobbies cause i not a PUSSYmerked this bastion on buried city all by myselfPVE sissies could NEVER
>>3076599i do like it for this. It makes arc hunting tasks more fun. I would not mind a pve mode that was almost no loot but heavy on arcs that dropped better loot too.
oh my god with a heavy shield got fucking beamed by a godcat. granted i was typing in the console and he probably got like 10 headshots but still. absolutely no counter-play literally died in 1.2 seconds and that was with me diving as soon as I got hit. when will they nerf this gun into the ground and give it the venator treatment? this gun is still the king even with all the amp weapons running around.
>>3077028How are the regular lobbies? Same as usual? I killed 2 bastions by myself yesterday and didn't get a single core. I need to be able to kill these seagulls.
>>3077261in the last 20 hours i got shot once on dam and once on stella montiseveryone else has been friendly
>>3077066heavy shield is a meme
>best way to farm points is to just naked run up the frigate in chungus lobby, get 3 arc things and suicide>got 3 golds in one of the runsrng sure is a fun thing
>>3078120if the devs buffed the end level loot, thatd discourage the freeloaders
>>3077330It should be buffed with 9 or 10 shield bars, to really make it the go-to option for tank builds, but make give it the original 15 or even 20% stamina penalty. There has to be a way to truly differentiate it from light and medium without breaking the balance.
>>3078147>It should be buffed with 9 or 10 shield bars, to really make it the go-to option for tank builds,itd need its dmg reduction up to the roof otherwise youd die before your shield broke
>>3078159Ahh damn yeah true. Higher dmg reduction is more important than overall shield health. I don't think it would even change the meta up too badly. If anything, giving light shields a slight speed buff could balance it all out.
>>3077066bobcat isn't the problem, you will get 2 pumped by the new toro or one tapped by aphelion, and of course theres anvil headshots. ttk is just way too low across the board and the whole system needs a revamp.
>>3078206>you will get 2 pumped by the new toro or one tapped by aphelionat least with those they have to go through some terraria-ass progression to get them. theres probably so many duped bobs in the game and its not like its difficult to get them, just a matter of getting lucky.
>>307821570 damage from a slug is wild when jupiter does 60
little early i know but whatever and damn those dubs, god blessing the arc threads>>3078299>>3078299>>3078299>>3078299>>3078299>>3078299
