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First for new datamined leak:
Iron Priest helmet for Techmarine. It has two entries in the files:
>ch_iron_priests_helmet_01
and
>helmet_challenge_07

>>3052269
Aw damn, that thing is gonna remove the last shred of utility from the wolf helmet of the champion skin

>>3052269
I take it previous space wolf cosmetic stuff sold well then

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>>3052269
Also Apothecary's name is going to be Pergamus.

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>>3052300
>old champion space wolf helmet
That thing needs a total rework. It just looks like a furry helmet no matter how you dress it up. Even if it were to get a hooded version like mk6 and 7 are getting soon.
The snout is just too bulbous, making the whole helmet look too Hanna Barabara.

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>>3052269
And Absolver Pistol Stats for each tier and variant. Those are probably subject to change

>>3052378
It should have been more stylized and less fursuit looking yes

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>>3052269
Nice

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>still have to deal with a blessing deficit if you late join a siege match
Fucking hell.

>>3053034
Also
>want to start a siege game on my own
>can't because it'll matchmake me into a game before I can even move
>that one game it keeps throwing me in has a retarded sniper who hasn't spent any of his req

I failed to screenshot the conversation

but I just met a Prestige 1 level 15 Assault who did not have a team perk equipped and when asked to equip one he said
>fr?
>where do I do that?
my man has somehow managed to prestige without figuring out what team perks are
holy fucking shit

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>ragequitting on the penultimate round when you're getting your ass absolutely fucking carried because a lictor grabbed you
>>3053125
Who knows what goes through the minds of the people who play this game, man.

>>3053341
that's insane
that makes no sense
I cannot imagine wasting my time like that
video games are waste of time, but THAT is a true genuine waste of time

>>3053493
or he just got disconnected, you know

>>3054651
I thought that too, but it's pretty conspicuous timing.

QRD on crucible? What levels are the stage at low tiers? Absolute?

>>3054904
It's hard strat with different modifiers. You unlock more modifiers as you level up.

>>3054908
So absolute

>>3054910
absolute has easier scaling

>>3054910
Hard is Absolute with extra hidden modifiers that are active before the actual earmarked modifiers kick in

Hosting a few runs if anyone's interested, crucible or whatever
4EQ9R
OCE

>>3054986
I can join if you are still up, ping is gonna be horrid though

>>3055011
yeah code's still up. up to you.

>>3055014
The Emperor didn't raise no bitches

>>3055018
game shat itself
C47JB

>>3055025
Acknowledged

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I'm not very good, so having to deal with multiple extremis spawns on my own plus a zillion majoris, more than once, was a fucking experience (plus i hate chaos)

On the other hand, i love the Melta now

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>get a Helbrute on the broken elevator portion of Vox Liberatis after we activate the console
>both teammates go down early, manage to clutch up by slowly kiting everything up and around the stairs
>elevator softlocks

>on the last section of Termination
>grab the targeting pistol
>bro on high ping trying to get rid of the swarm
>accidentally lead a sniper into him and fucking kill him
>bot goes down as well
>dancing around more snipers along with 2 zoans and raveners with a knife and my pistol still in targeting mode
>pick up bot and live long enough to not fail the mission
I would have had my head in my hands after that one

>>3054805
He was in the mash to not die cycle for awhile, definitely disconnect. But he could've disconnected right when got pounced out of seethe.

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>>3055218
You locked the fuck in there brother, Raptors team prevails

>>3055241
should have gotten one of the both of us, we looked clean

>>3052407
The absolver BP is what the HBP was using which is why it was doing so much damage this patch and yeah this tracks.

>>3055348
Half a year until a usable HBP for assault...

Niggers who queue for Crucible only to leave after dying to the first Majoris pack that spawns should be permabanned. It has happened in all of my last 5 runs.

Multi Melta....good now?

>>3056357
Normal absolute players can get thrown in with crucible runs. I’m at rank 5 and I’m tempted to just cheese it mode is artificial difficulty

>>3056357
why leave? am i missing something? i played crucible on one class until level 2 then just used the cheat engine table
fuck the pointless grind

>>3056872
playing through the first area should be enough to tell if someone is a shitter or not. Since every crucible game has to be played from the start to finish, if you see someone is not pulling their weight it's best to cut your losses and leave immediately rather than get wiped 20 minutes later.

>>3056660
Yeah it's actually really good, still sucks cock you have to basically steal all the Extremis executes to stay ammo equal/positive, even with getting 4 shots back from Majoris ranged Kills

>>3056660
It was never bad anon

>>3057395
It was extremely ammo inefficient, it's alot better now

>>3057458
Not really. If anything I’d say the economy got worse, especially on the non ammo versions. It’s a nice buff to the ammo variant specifically when the barrel is clipping with the enemy but from the testing I’ve seen the damage is the same or worse as it was before after the pathetically short in game 5m

>if you take minimum penances at level 6 crucible you’ll need to play 100 lobbies

yep cheesing the helmet then never touching this shit again

>>3057737
You can't do that anon what would the one anon here think of you not wanting to play the game the proper way?

>>3057737
>>3058012
>people unironically defending the dogshit Crucible design with "erm why do you feel ENTITELD to the armor?"
reading steam forums is a direct attack on the brain

>>3058012
not him but I used the CE table. I don't give a fuck what others think.

If fucking vatniks don't value my time by coming up with more absurd ways to make the grind miserable and needlessly long I'm not obligated to subject myself to their retarded line of thinking.

>give Shieldslam bulwark a try
>feels like it does not nearly enough damage for the input required
then theres also the dash just sometimes becoming the bash despite it being fully charged
guess it's just not for me, at least you can play block paxe without it
am i misremembering or did the PAxe on release not have a Power Stance on Block specifically?

>>3058816
>did the PAxe on release not have a Power Stance on Block specifically?
Correct, block axe didn't get to use the axe's special gimmick for quite a while.

>>3058821
Ah okay, i recently came back and was wondering why people recommended the block PAxe on Bulwark, when i saw it got into Power Stance after a perfect block i was questioning myself lol

Sniper gets inherit crucible -26% damage, -15% ranged damage, - 30% ranged damage and -50% headshot damage. Genuinely unplayable.

>>3051857
Thanks to whomever it was that gave me the advice on what button to use for melee last topic. After I switched to conventional left click shoot right click aim and mouse button forward melee it was easy to geti nto the groove. Finished campaign last night.

Thousand sons were so much easier than nids to fight, excepting the helbrute who was hellishly brutal (hee hee).

>>3059865
>Thousand sons were so much easier than nids to fight,
good for you, just remember to switch back to nids instead of quitting the game altogether when you get to the skil level where chaos operations get unbearable.

I'm absolutely sick of random shitters. Join me, brothers.

SGXSY

>>3060673
what game mode?

>>3060673
Sorry, brother.
I was napping.

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I don't like the power fist.

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>>3062637
you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

>>3063127
That's cool and all but the Power Axe is more fun to me and i do better on it

>>3059865
ADS on spacebar is underrated.

>>3063422
the problem with ADS on spacebar is that dodge no longer is on spacebar, and it's the only keystroke in the game that you need to hit accurately.

>>3063760
I manage pretty well with it on ctrl.

Shit, maybe i should level the multi melta lol

>>3064389
it's very fun and one of the few weapon types that aren't absolutely cucked damage-wise while using a non-relic tier.

>>3064389
Since this update, there's no point using flamer weapons since they've buffed all melta ones.

New boss leaked

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New boss is a neurolictor and the mission is called "pve_mist"

>>3064666
sex

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>>3064666

>>3064666
>>3064683
oh god its gonna be term sorc on meth

>>3064666
>lictorcarnifex boss
I'm very okay with this actually, lictors are fun as fuck to fight

>finished assault lamenter armor

what a horrible speedrun tranny mode not touching this shit again until at least exp loss is removed

>>3065007
And the shitty hidden cheating modifiers that amplify every tier. Their percentages are almost as high as the ones on the actual penances after stacking them.

Fucking Saber. This happened with lethal and the power axe too. They don't become playable until like 2 or 3 patches later cause they save on testers by abusing their playerbase.

>touching it all
deserved

>I hate dying but I would never ever ever ever heal my mortal wound
Just let me stim my teammates already oh my fucking god.

>>3064683
Mist = Shadow of the Warp but worse

>>3065142
SO MANY RETARDS either do not know that it's a thing (because the game never tells you) or are a bunch of retarded apes, because I always tell them to use the medicae and fix their wound and a good half never does

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Can someone tell me, in broad strokes, what I missed since. Let's check the filename
>19. March 2026 3:45 PM

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>>3065413

>>3065413
saber added the worst weapon in the entire game by far as of yet

>>3066082
that is true
he did miss the bendy invincible meme
that is a good point

>>3052216
saw a guy wearing tranny flag colors on his marine and it took me everything to not make fun of it.

This just in, Melee Tacticals are the new biggest liabilities in Stratagem runs next to Hammer Bulwarks.
Holy shit, they are the most unreliable pieces of shit ever. You are NOT that guy, you are fucking dead weight.

>>3066662
I've tested it a little bit, it feels more like a gimmick that nobody asked for that only works on lower difficulties

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fuck you

>>3052216
>https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg
I just finished the storyline, and I can't see any of these perks under any of the classes at the Armouring Hall in PvE mode.
Am I missing something?

>>3067142
Campaign and PvE (Operations) is a separate mode.

>>3067142
Oh and those perks are prestige perks. They unlock at max level.

>>3067155
I was aware of that part
>>3067161
This is the part that I was unaware of. Is it possible to get all the other perks or will I have to choose some to never get? They really don't explain anything about Operations/classes.

>>3067169
>Is it possible to get all the other perks or will I have to choose some to never get?
There are 6 prestige perks and you are able to pick only 4. Each class has about 1 or 2 that feel really important before they get less important.
>They really don't explain anything about Operations/classes.
Yeah they haven't been good with informing new players in the slightest.

>>3067198
Additional questions:
1. Is it possible to get all of a class' normal perks or will I have to pick and choose those as well?
2. Is there a purpose to completing the trials aside from the yellow circle currency?
3. What are the best ways to grind for the blue triangles and yellow circles?
4. Is there any common etiquette that's easy for new people to miss?
Apologies for dumping them all on you, Anon.

>>3067238
>1. Is it possible to get all of a class' normal perks or will I have to pick and choose those as well?
You can unlock them all but each vertical row can only have one perk picked from them.
>2. Is there a purpose to completing the trials aside from the yellow circle currency?
No real purpose aside from the only tool tips the game will give you about your class so it's not 100% useless if you're starting out.
>3. What are the best ways to grind for the blue triangles and yellow circles?
Blue Triangles can be won through Stratagem Mode which are missions with conditions. Normal Stratagems are Substantial Difficulty (Difficulty 3) while Hard Stratagems are Absolute Difficulty (Difficulty 6). They're one of the hardest pieces of content the game offers. Hard Stratagems are actually tougher Absolute difficulty games with more damage taken/less damage dealt on-top of mission conditions that will either hinder you or help you in some way.
Blue Triangles can also be earned through playing PvP and getting like 30 kills weekly and doing Siege (Horde) Mode. There's an interact-able lectern you can check Horde/PvP Mode triangle gains by the Hangar/Mission Deployment area.
>4. Is there any common etiquette that's easy for new people to miss?
Lemme write a separate post for this.

>>3067238
>Apologies for dumping them all on you, Anon.

I don't think anyone's particularly upset at the chance of helping create another informed and competent player. Ask as much as you need.

>>3067261
>>3067253
Thanks, and that's a fair point.
Are the research options in the datavault ultimately just for specific cosmetics?

>>3067238
>>3067253
>Common Etiquette
There's a handful
>1. Don't throw a frag grenade at your teammate to help them
Grenades do not cause friendly fire to teammates but they WILL stagger them and make them potentially eat avoid-able damage. Just provide covering fire with your ranged options instead of throwing a grenade.
>2. Don't hog resources
Unless it is abundantly clear someone is a liability, share medkits and Relics to whoever needs them. Prioritize giving ammo to the ranged classes and armor reinforcement to Snipers and Vanguards
>3. Use your medkit
White medkits restore a fixed amount of health while red medkits restore a larger amount over time. Both can heal a Wound debuff on you if you went down. It does involve healing at the point where using said medkit will heal you to full so be careful with a red medkit.
>4. Don't hog executions
If someone is dueling an enemy, don't swoop in to execute that enemy. Pay attention to your team's HP bars and if they have a white outline around them to indicate if they have armor of if you're more used to it, see if they just took damage. For the latter case, they'll want to regain contested health and executing an enemy will just do that. If you were to take it instead, they'd lose all of that recoverable health. Armor can mitigate a lot of damage so letting someone regain armor is also helpful in keeping them alive.
>5. Have a Team Perk Equipped
Each class tends to have one team perk that's pretty much better than the other two they have available. This doesn't matter too much in lower difficulties but end-game content involves using that meta team perk. Prestiging resets levels so a bunch of idiots run around with no perks or team perks equipped so make sure to not forget

I am mostly likely forgetting something so if anyone else wants to chime in, please do.

>>3067169
>>3067161
>>3067142
you level to 25 to unlock Prestige 1

you can do this to prestige up to 4 times

this means to TRULY max out a class you actually have to level to an effective level of 150

every prestige grants a prestige perk
a lot of the prestige perks are very minor
some are almost worthless
some are amazing

some examples of really good ones
>Sniper gets one that grants 2s of invulnerability upon activating cloak, making them the safest class in the game (an ability that already clears aggro and can heal back all CHP and clear status effects)
>Techmarine gets +25% melee damage for 5s after a gunstrike (Techmarine has a unique gunstrike mechanic where he can still perform them while doing other shit, so it's way easier to pull them off)
>Assault gets Hammer of Wrath and Unyielding Oath (these are amazing, but Im feeling too lazy to go into detail)
>Vanguard gets one that restores 1 armor every time he grapels something (which is something youll be doing every few seconds with the right build) as well as free armor for multikilling every 15s
>Bulwark gets one that restores ability by 1% for every shot blocked with his shield (extremely valuable on a class who can have up to a 3 minutes ability cooldown)
it's definitely worth it go for the prestige perks

but first things first
you need to get some widely available weapons maxed out ASAP so that you can comfortably take a level 1 class into Absolute

>>3067238
>3. What are the best ways to grind for the blue triangles and yellow circles?
weekly stratagems
weekly siege
weekly PvP

>>3067302
Yeah it's mostly for cosmetics and to give you something to work towards.

>>3067311
>>3067238
it's kinda reddit, but this game has a Rock & Stone thing going on

if someone pumps their fist in the air and praises The Emperor, then you need to do so as well
it's a vibe check
refusing to do so repeatedly will make you come off as an autistic anti-social loner (and a heretic)

of course if they're a retard who just endlessly spams it then you arent expected to

>>3067302
yes
the Inquisition one is important for completing a full Deathwatch outfit
the Tyranid one is for completing a Tyrranic War Veteran outfit
that's about it

>>3067311
>>3067315
>>3067316
Makes sense, thanks.
>>3067312
>you need to get some widely available weapons maxed out ASAP so that you can comfortably take a level 1 class into Absolute
What do you mean by widely available weapons, don't we all just pick what weapons we bring?

>>3067334
Certain classes cannot take certain weapons as there are class exclusive weapons.
However, there are a handful of weapons that a number of classes can share so take for example a Bolt Pistol sidearm. I think every single class can take this as a sidearm so it can naturally become very easy to level over time. So you level up a class using the bolt pistol and get it to gold rarity. Then you can take that gold rarity pistol and use it on another class you haven't leveled yet and have a decently beefed up weapon to clear levels more quickly. The same applies to melee weapons that are shared between certain classes.

>>3067334
>What do you mean by widely available weapons, don't we all just pick what weapons we bring?
I mean weapons that are shared by classes

ALL classes get the Bolt Pistol and Heavy Bolt Pistol

Knife is shared by 4 classes, and Sniper can ONLY equip knife
Power Axe is available on 5 classes
Chainsword is available on 4 classes
Bolt Carbine is available on 3 classes
Heavy Bolt Rifle is available on 3 classes

but something like Power Fist? thats exclusive to Bulwark and Assault
Bolt Sniper Rifle? only for Sniper
Flamethrower? only for Tactical

long term you'll end up leveling everything else faster if you can max out some mostly universal weapons in order to make leveling go faster later

BY FAR THE BEST CHOICE FOR FIRST CLASS TO LEVEL IS TACTICAL
by far
>has access to primary ranged weapons that are shared by every other class that gets a primary
>shares a melee with ever other class
max out Tactical first and move on from there

ALTERNATIVELY you could start on Bulwark or Assault, but I would not recommend it
>t. started out by maxing out Assault and suffered

>>3067357
What's wrong with starting out with Assault? I really like the jump pack and thunder hammer, and desu I did most of the Campaign with melee weapons

>>3067373
>>3067357
I see the issue now, only 3 of the 7 classes use the thunder hammer. Damn.

>>3067373
>What's wrong with starting out with Assault?
learning the real game (coop Absolute is the real game) with no primary is pretty punishing
Assault is also just about the most high skill ceiling character in the game, except for maybe Sniper
and until certain perks are unlocked, it's significantly more painful (namely Unyielding Oath prestige and the level 23 perk Zealous Blow and the level 25 perk Commitment)
the less time you can spend an underleveled Assault the better
also youll be starting with a grey unleveled primary weapon when you choose to level a class that isn't Bulwark after finishing Assault

actually I have a tangent about Commitment and leveling Assault
Commitment is THE key to the build that lets you use Assault's dash as it was meant to be used
this playstyle doesnt exist without this perk
so if you are leveling assault all the way to max prestige, then you wont get to play a single mission with this fundamental perk until youve leveled up 149 times
Wings of Flame + Commitment lets you dodge everything with ease while shitting out crazy damage
very high skill, high risk, high reward gameplay
AND YOU CAN'T START LEARNING IT UNTIL YOUVE MAXED ALL THE SHIT OUT (assuming you want to max it out)
this is part of why I'd want to spend as little time leveling Assault as possible

dont get me wrong
Assault is fun
Assault is so much God damn fun
most fun in the game at its peak
but I would not reccomend leveling Assault first

>>3067399
and until the last patch it was only 2 classes

>>3067407
>>3067373
at least on Bulwark you can make up for not having a primary to kill stuff at a distance by having a shield to protect yourself from ranged spam

if a Zoanthrope or Neurothrope spawns and you're Assault, you are USELESS against them if you don't have the right set up (stacking several ranged damage boosting perks)

>>3067407
>>3067422
Is team composition much of a thing/concern?

>>3067424
I think the only time it really becomes a concern is the 4th PvE mission where the end boss can only be damaged through ranged damage but most of the time a competent enough squad can get by without the heals of a Bulwark or a Vanguard.

>>3067424
you have very little control over it as a solo player
you get what you get and work with it

certain classes are a Godsend to have around though because of certain perks or setups
>Vanguard with a team perk that heals 30% of your HP for anyone who executes an Extremis or Terminus
free heals
amazing to have around since Absolute has so many more extremis
>Bulwark gets a perk that makes his banner MAX OUT your CHP so if he pops banner as you perform an execution, youll get healed back to full health
this perk makes that prestige perk I mentioned that restores 1% cooldown on blocking a ranged attack so valuable, because the healing banner also raises your cooldown by 50%
>Sniper who isn't dogshit and has the Heroic Bolt Sniper Rifle
one shots Zoanthropes on absolute
one shots Nid warriors on absolute
RAPES Neurothropes
constantly shitting out crazy damage (as long as he doesn't miss)
having a good sniper can basically guarantee that you won't wipe
>Tactical gets Secure Stockpile
best team perk in the game
better than Vanguards healing perk
if you equip any other team perk as Tactical you are either stupid or don't know any better
having more grenades available throughout a mission can be the difference between victory and defeat
the damage boost from Auspex is also just great to have around for extremis and bosses

every class is good
there are certainly classes that I would choose of others if Im playing a certain build
like if I was playing Assault or Vanguard I would want to have a Sniper for taking out annoying ranged enemies

oh and one more thing
ANY CLASS THAT GETS A PERK THAT RESTORES GRENADES SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE IT EQUIPPED 100% ALWAYS
>Vanguard can create a free grenade for themselves every 90s
>Tactical gives everyone a free grenade every 90s
>Sniper can get themselves a free grenade every 30s (absurdly effective if you have a pyreblaster canister)
>Heavy can get a free grenade for themselves every 90s

>>3067424
>>3067480
oh and I forgot about Techmarine who can restore a grenade every 75s

Techmarine also has several perks which make grenades better
> +50% grenade damage
> enemies hit by grenades take 25% more damage for 10s
> +15% grenade radius

this means that a Tactical with Secure Stockpile is a Techmarine's best friend for life

>>3067480
>>3067494
What makes grenades good/useful?

>>3067591
Frag grenades can soften up crowds
But it's stuff like Krak Grenades and Melta Bombs that can really eliminate priority targets and or multiple of them

Should I follow the game's suggested difficulty to class-level ratio, or will people not be bothered if I play on Average/Substantial before my I'm level 5-10? I'm not the best by any means, but the people that backfill into my games on Minimal are an actual detriment if for no other reason than the fact that they AFK before each assembly point

>>3067607
You should play a game of Substantial/Ruthless to get a team perk, then stay in Ruthless/Lethal if you cannot handle absolute.
The more important aspect is your weapon. You need a relic/heroic weapon so you ain't dealing 0 damage (one of the most retarded aspect of the game).

>>3067632
How good should my weapon be in order to play Substantial/Ruthless?

>>3067657
Relic or heroic. But I guess you gotta start somewhere. You don't want to be grinding forever so you can probably scrap by with green weapons if you use a good weapon. My advice is to focus on one universal, good weapon shared between classes you play and buy heroics to level other weapons.

>>3067668
Does buying a heroic weapon let me skip grinding weapon levels?

I-I wanna dress as a Luna wolf…….

>>3067673
You skip needing to level weapon EXP to access an acceptable weapon with okay stats but you will be lacking in weapon perk points that you get by leveling individual weapon variants. It's a bit of a hassle but you can spend research data points to just max them out as you unlock a new tier and then max them out with points and continue using a heroic.

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>queueing as HBS sniper
>didnt look at the mission
>Chaos
>want to uninstall the game
i don't even know where to begin with this fucking Weapon and Faction combination
>headshot shitboxes
>ports, effect screen clutter
>anything related to chaos spawns
>the dogshit micromovement the Sorcerers do and the sudden jolts the Terminators do
>certain map parts just delete your bullet if they cross over a threshold but enemies can be behind those and shoot at you
>teammates
>ping

being delegated to a glorified Gunstrike bot really made me fucking loathe that faction even more

on a related note, can they just enable Versatile Precision for the HBS already, only having 7 bullets that you can't regen with all the shit that can fuck over your headshots is infuriating

>>3067780
>>certain map parts just delete your bullet if they cross over a threshold
wait, what?

>>3068141
WWZ has the same problem but you rarely notice it in either game because of the ranges of engagement
But there are some very specific annoying map tiles where it can happen still, ESPECIALLY if you use a sniper

What guard style do you run with wings of flame builds on assault

>>3068770
If you're going to be dodging instead of parrying for gunstrike damage, you might as well go Block

>>3064666
Guess we're going back to Kadaku.
Bets on if this mission will actually take place after the campaign or not?

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I want to make some really stupid music videos focusing on certain chapters. Who would be interested in running custom strats with the 12 player PvE mod so I can record footage?

Having unlimited melta bombs is fucking boring. I play the game because I want to fight things, not because I want to run to the end

>>3069791
Sometimes I can't fucking fight things in front of me when 7 warriors are drowning me with barbed strangler pods and devourer volleys.

I've been using the Volkite pistol a lot more these days as my sidearm.
>Cut a swathe through mobs of cultists
>Instantly delete waves of spore mines or carpets of vines
>Decent boss damage contribution
It's gunstrike is still kinda mediocre, right? Or did it get buffed a while back? I can't remember.

>>3069809
Why would you need a melta bomb for that

>>3069883
Run into the enemy firing line, drop bomb, and then duel melee mobs in peace.
Or get rid of melee mob and then pray for hardcover against enemy covering fire.

>>3069890
Yeah, I didn't ask how to do it, I asked why you specifically need a melta bomb instead of killing them normally

>>3069903
nta but
>pretending you havent been stuck with like 10 ranged nidders that all spread out and completely cover your entire area in junglejizz
no idea why it has to be melta bomb though, maybe for clearing the melee warriors AND the bramble

>>3069903
How am I going to do any consistent melee damage or even gunstrike if I'm taking ranged damage every second?

>>3070033
By running down the ranged nids? Chaining executions? Throwing frags to stun the things you're not currently fighting? Moving somewhere else?

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>>3069890
>Run into the enemy firing line
t:

Someone should make a first person mod

>>3072359
>stares in anon posting 180 deg fov videos

>>3067780
someone post the pic of head hitboxes where the CSM blocks his head by holding his bolter, so you shoot his arm

>>3069855
I'm sure i'd like it alot more if i didnt have to perfectly track a Majoris for 3 seconds to get any damage off lol

>>3069809
just turn your back on them. you can't be shot by something you don't see, lol.

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>play HBS sniper/tac/tech
>everything is melee warriors
>play literally any other class or build
>everything is ranged fuckwits all the time, 1 melee warrior on the whole map
i hate this games director

>>3074626
forgot to mention that its especially bad on Bulwark atm
genuinely the last 7 runs or so where i wanted to try out the Salamander PSword fucking NOTHING wanted to melee me, even the ranged ones i did engage just kept leaping away

>>3074626
>assault
>chaos missions
>extremis always includes 1 ranged terminator that walks in silently and begins immediately firing its soul reaper into my back

>>3075033
at least there you can make an argument for animation canceling with Q, but yeah fuck Chaos
>get blasted by rockets that didnt give you a BING

>>3075033
This is exactly just one of the many reasons bulwark will be the superior melee class

>>3075041
Well no, that's the point
Bulwark shines when enemies actually attack him, Assault is free to shit on absolutely everything by playing hyper aggressive, while the jetpack still lets him dash for defense
Bulwark doesn't have that leniency, he gets peppered too much he slows down to a crawl

>>3075054
Except that unlike assault bulwark has a FREE gapcloser that isnt reliant on the games buggy coding and lag to work properly.

I've ran Inferno hundreds of times and have only gotten a boss spawn in the final segment 3 times. But when it's this fucking weekly stratagem in particular, I've gotten it multiple times in the final section. Game loves fucking with me.

>>3075090
If you're talking about Shield Rush, you gotta use a literal exploit to use it to its full potential so it's kinda reliant on the buggy coding

>got lamenter armor
>thought i would be ok with basic primaris helm
>after wearing it a bit I’m not


I suffered a ton of exp loss games for this btw

>>3075054
>Bulwark doesn't have that leniency
Your shield cancel sir?

new heroic for heavy in patch 16 confirmed
what will it be?

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>>3076424
Probably something boring like the salamanders melta multi melta edition. Ideally something cool like an Infernus heavy bolter

>>3076424
A melee weapon

>>3076641
He’d fuck pretty hard with a power fist. I hope that assuming the IF champion 2 is Tor Garadon inspired that they could be opening gravis captain type loadouts to heavy sometime this year, since aggressors aren’t all that likely to come

>>3076424
Multi-Melta or Flamer.
No idea how you can iterate on the flamer
The regualr melta's heroic is godawful
The dream is for the Heroic Multi-Melta to function like a block weapon or have its alternate fire be a long range armor piercing shot.

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Realistically speaking, any new enemy they add will be annoying.
So they should add Pink Horrors as another Chaos Majoris enemy and they split into two smaller Blue Horrors.
Hell, you can go a bit further and add Flamers as another Extremis.

Just shooting into the horde on Decapitation was enough to do all 3 tiers of that Ultragrind Ordeal kek

>>3077815
>So they should add Pink Horrors as another Chaos Majoris enemy and they split into two smaller Blue Horrors.
Im down for this
>Hell, you can go a bit further and add Flamers as another Extremis.

>>3075972
No pity
You were warned

>>3076275
>losing armor and 60% of your HP while starting the Rush cancel to a volley of funny thorns

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I'm convinced this is literally impossible to complete outside of the hunted modifier. I've started shooting at lictors before an indicator even appears and they still manage to get a pounce off instead of dropping off the wall like the unkillable lictor does the moment you sneeze at it.

>>3079375
how do you do this?
spot and then one shot it with a bolt sniper rifle?

>>3079375
If you truly wish to see it done, just go to the campaign mission where you fight a lictor in the jungle and repeat it.
I've never been able to shoot a lictor down in Operations before it leaps.

>>3079375
It's doable, if one sits around within range when you're holding a melta weapon you can splaff it. That requires using melta weapons and a quick reaction to a one in a hundred occurance all at once though.

>still cant recolor the hoods on Sniper because hood color is now tied to tabard color for some fucking reason
incredible stuff

>>3079375
Campaign mission 5, I think. The one where you meet Chairon's buddy.
There's a section near the beginning where you advance past the guard position to move on a neurothrope, and there's a scripted lictor encounter. It always spawns on the wall directly across from the elevator entrance, so just look for the eyes and shoot it before you walk down the corridor, then return to the battle barge and drop back into the mission again. It loads you at a checkpoint 30 seconds from the encounter.

>>3079375
Load Servant of the Machine at the point where you have to ride the elevator, and shoot the scripted one off the chain until you unlock it

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>>3079435
I happened to be charging a heroic plasma pistol shot right as a lictor spawned on the wall next to me in a match of normal siege, not even hard mode, just normal. Not even that was able to prevent it from pouncing, so it's almost certainly impossible to knock them down outside of the methods the other anons brought up. Leave it to Saber to make what should be a challenge you complete incidentally just by playing the game an exercise in tedium of constantly repeating the same section of a campaign mission.
Also goddamn most people suck at this gamemode.

>>3081681
>56 melee damage
hilarious

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I'm about to say the N word

>quick play on Absolute still forces you into crucible lobbies
nigger game
nigger devs
fucking this stupid bullshit
>oh you wanted the quickplay XP bonus for leveling faster?
>FUCK YOU LOL XD
nigger
stupid nigger

>>3082036
nigger
fuck you
fuck this game
stuck on a loading screen loading into a crucible lobby I dont want to even play

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>>3082036
>2741 damage taken
Fucking how?

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>>3082228
Oh wait, it was a bot.

>double power maul damage
>its suddenly usable
math sure am hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o460FPDJaLc

Maybe if your worthless niggers actually played together then you wouldn't be on this board. Deserved.

>>3082931
>double bugged hits
>still worse than a majority of the melee options
honestly its impressive how bad this piece of shit is
>this is after a 100% damage buff already from .1

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did they fuck with the Minoris spawns this patch?
I swear they've never felt this extremely aggressive, both in numbers and attack rate

>>3083547
plot twist: they are all men

>>3083969
Leftover vibecode from Crucible modifiers

>>3083969
Really those fucks will surround me and do absolutely nothing while all ranged majoris fire on me

>>3084399
I've had dozens of games now where i'm fighting Extremis/Majoris during a boss and will be peppered by the 30 minoris and their shitblasters while the Majoris dont even fight back, which kinda fucks me on certain builds

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guys I think I put my cape on backwards

you don't think anyone will notice do you?

can't believe the lamenters grind mode killed the general

>>3085066
I havent started the grind yet because I dont have every class maxed out

also not even sure Im going to do it for more than 1 class because the reward is kind of lame, and that's as someone who likes the Lamenters

this mode shouldnt exist, and we should have gotten an hour and a half long RAID mission instead with multiple bosses
>boss 1 is a double neurothrope with some sort of special stupid gimmick mechanic
>boss 2 is a Trygon with an additional gimmick
>boss 3 is a Hive Tyrant that hasnt been crushed by a bridge so it's fighting at full strength
>Final boss is a new unique fight
THAT is what we would have wanted
put a cool armor set behind that

>>3085095
Raids are gay as fuck and suck up so much effort that everything else in the game would suffer for it. I spent enough time herding five mouth breathers around in Destiny I have negative interest in doing it here.

>>3085095
>an hour and a half long RAID mission instead with multiple bosses
you just described siege mode, which should have included trygon and unique fights from day one,
>THAT is what we would have wanted
and we all hate it.

>>3085270
>running around a static arena with no progression or narative is the same as a raid
jfc you people

>>3083490
we're on this board because tidefags lose their shit if you talk about any other game in /coopg/

>>3083490
Too fast for /vm/ but too slow for /vg/. Blame the Darktide general skinwalking as /coop/
>>3085270
What he wants is closer to "3 man run of Exfiltration but you barge into an already existing 3 man run of Ballistic Engine to clear that and have to clear that before you do Exfiltration"

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>>3052269
>Iron Priest

THEY'RE CALLED IRON FATHERS! You...YOU....
>LOADING BIOLOGICAL SLURS PLEASE WAIT......

.....

>Meatbag
>Bonebitch
>Musclemonkey
>Non-programable-cuck (NPC)
>Carbon cocksucker
>FliggerFlaggot
>Skinwalker
>Brainbeta
>Logic-loser
>Neuron-nigger
>transistorless tranny.
>Organ-owner

>Chosen slur selected:
>S T E E L L E S S
>T
>E
>E
>L
>L
>E
>S
>S

>>3086720
Iron priests are space wolves tho

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after re watching the footage i conclude i did nothing wrong

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>>3086846
>bulwark with thammer

>>3086410
WRATH SHALL RAIN

>>3086720
>managing to type this all out without realising you were mixing up Iron Priests with Iron Fathers
This is fucking embarrassing dude I'd delete my 4chan account if I were you.

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>haven't played in a while
>get passed the "actually find a match" loadscreen minigame
>join in prog two braindead imp fists players
>end up having to hard carry a chaos absolute
>they get mad at me in text chat because i pick up armor and grenades when i see them
>get vote kicked on the finale
The worst part of this game is everything about it

>>3087827
it's been two years grandpa, let it go

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XMTRG

Some crucible with the brothers, doing Tactical at the moment

>>3088164
still playing?

>>3088247
New code YRVNN

>>3088262
I'm late, brothers. Post more codes for Crucible suffering

>>3088445
will post new code in a second

>>3088445
WICFX
Our duty is never done brother

>>3088445
NQ333

new code

>>3087969
>It's a 3man squad so two assfaggots can ruin everyone else's fun
>We don't like your class
>We don't like your build
>You prestiged so it says level one but we'll ignore the IV on your bar even tho we're level 20 tier0s
>Bulwark with Hammer
Kinda why I gave up

>>3088493
Still at it?

>>3087969
You can't get votekicked in the finale anymore, nice lie there

Every other fucking game I get a retarded Black Templar it's so fucking over man

Bloodborne emulator is crashing.

We are back to the suffering.

Q6AIC

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Fucking bramble.

>>3089179
don't reply to avatarfags

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>>3089509
having to fight 2 extremis, a carnifex and a bunch of warriors all while the area around me gets jungled up is very very fun and good game design
holy shit why does synapse not break those damn things
>>3089684
since when are reaction images the same as avatar posting

Devourer warriors have immediate priority but I go back and forth between venom cannons and barbed stranglers on who to kill next/spend ability on.

>>3089722
pick a real class or get good chvd

>>3089819
thats a universal problem

>have to wait almost a fucking year for power greatswords

>>3090616
>thinking it won't be delayed
lol, lmao

>>3090616
>won't even be good at release

>>3089509
>>3089722
assault's jump pack recharge on kill perk works on brambles (and some other random doodads on the map). heavy's aoe damage on iron halo pops them

>>3089509
>>3089722
'member when your framerate would plummet the second one of those little fuckers puked out a dozen thorns?

I fucking miss it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyuAmY0YjcA

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>>3091105
I don't. Fuck those faggots. Why did you have to remind me ?

I am so spiteful and full of hate for this game
>leveling a class
>queue for quickplay absolute for the XP bonus
>get put on someone's battle barge that's trying to play crucible every single time
so I have started just kneeling whenever I get put in these battle barges
I get up and take a piss
or cook some ramen
fuck you for playing crucible
fuck you for playing this game
fuck saber for doing this
fuck you
kill yourself

>>3091155
Because ECR just isn't the same. You will know pain to equal mine.

>>3091105
The only reason I was interested in it was because they were pushing the "It'll be Planetside 2 but 40k" and in the end it just looks like they took SM1's multiplayer and expanded it. Glad I missed it

>>3091165
It was always a dogshit game and i'm mad because those faggots lied tho.

>>3091168
SM1's multiplayer outlived it, sadly.
>>3091169
Look, if you guys were actually PS2 but 40k, you probably should have read the room based on how dogshit PS2 was in the first place as a sign things weren't going to be delivered in that way

>>3091182
Still a dogshit game. SM1 was better. Hell i'd argue SM1 is better than 2 in quite a few ways.

>>3091192
Saying it wasn't as good as SM1 doesn't actually amount to much. Yeah, no shit SM1 was better, it was an average game in an era where video games weren't bottom of the barrel slop. I'd still take Eternal Crusade over ECR or even SM2's soulless primarisified movie marines and rollslop garbage, and if you say otherwise then frankly I'm convinced you're just arguing just to be miserable and contentious. Sure, it was slow and clunky (at least as long as you weren't playing Eldar) but it actually functioned as a game instead of just a MAU treadmill for Focus to show its investors.

>>3091216
I never tried ECR and i don't care about it. Space Marine 2 is pure slop that would have bombed HARD if it wasn't for the 40k franchise saving it, so you're right about that.

>>3091224
Then why be a pissbaby over someone else having nostalgia for EC in the first place? Yeah, it didn't deliver on what you apparently had envisioned for it in your head, but it still was a damn sight better than the options we have today. I'd rather have how far we've fallen plastered on the walls then pretend every step of the way back aside from the beginning was worthless.

>>3091246
>Yeah, it didn't deliver on what you apparently had envisioned for it in your head
It wasn't in my head, that's what the dev promised to deliver. Don't care if it was realistic or not, or if it was ever gonna be good or not.

>>3091260
No, it was in your head. As someone who put over a thousand hours into PS2 out of loyalty to PS1, it would have to be for you to even desire them to follow through on the promise of PS2 but 40k. PS2 was a shitshow with nightmarish netcode, terrible balance, horrendous hit detection and some of the worst game design I have ever seen. You didn't want them to deliver on PS2 but 40k, you wanted them to deliver on the image of PS2 but 40k you had in your head.

>queue crucible
>get to hangar
>all 3 of us step into ready zone
>start mission
>load in
>see TACTICAL next to me when mission starts

please remove exp loss this shit is so common

the nids keep shooting thru my iron halo
TZD NOW

>>3091308
anon... you occasionally start the game desynced and the other player loads in half way through the first area.

>Would like to use Wings of Flame because im bad at timing the Jetpack dodges
>does more bad than good because it staggers enemies out of their attack animations so i dont get the refund
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Hotfix 15.2 patch notes Brothers:

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/471-hotfix-15-2-patch-notes

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>>3092876
>yet more one handed hammer buffs

>>3092876
>still does not fix the Vortex Beast getting stuck in the starting area in Chaos Siege for waves 15, 19, 20 and 25

>>3092876
>Please note that the text descriptions for the Power Maul have not been updated to reflect these changes, they will be updated in a future patch.
A minor complaint but c'mon they couldn't even give their 30% here.

>Fixed an issue where PvE Quick Match players could be matched into Crucible.
what are the chances they fixed getting matched with crucible players when selecting a particular operation as well?

>>3092860
Jumpack dodge is just scuffed right now sometimes youll get it off but the game wont count it because fuck you

>>3092876
Those numbers look disappointing how is it performing now?

>>3093098
Yeah but the dodge has been broken like that since...forever lol
so ground pound kill CD it is for me

>>3092876
>still no buff to regular 1H Hammer swings
STILL DOGSHIT

>>3092876
>they patched the exploit

good thing I already got the class I wanted everyone else can suffer it

space wuffs just can't stop winning

is one hand hammer worth using at all

>>3094436
Fuck no.
When the patch initially dropped the charge actually staggered bosses but it NO fucking damage.
With the first hotfix, the damage was increased but the stagger effect was completely removed (with plans to add it back later) so now it did a single digit amount of damage higher and had no stagger built in so it was even worse off.
This latest hotfix increased its already pitiful damage numbers again

>>3094499
Consequence of devs playing on difficulty 4 (lower enemy HP + no inherit -15% to -26% damage debuff).

>>3094555
No weapon's light attack should require 4 swings to kill a gaunt.
The 1H Hammer is actually a worse weapon than the fucking Heavy's stock bash.

the other classes are no where near as fun as assault

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>>3095944
>be Assault
>thropes spawn
>your teammates don't instantly delete them with their primaries
>tfw

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>>3096109
damage hbp + 20% ranged damage + 15% ranged damager kills them in 1 and a half magazines

>>3096109
Gonna have to wait until we get the absolver bolt pistol if he even gets it because I can totally see them making it a heavy/apothecary only option.

>new weapon is another power hammer
>next melee weapon's another power sword
>next will probably be power claws
>chainaxe skin still doesn't work with heroic power axes in chaos siege
>only one more chance to get a chainaxe, chainknife, chainhammer, or chainfist heroic
>won't because GW hates chainaxes
>chainknives are usually bayonets
>and chainhammers barely even exist
>won't get a chainfist because Saber seemingly hates chain weapons
>GW probably forced them to make the chainsword as good as it is because it's the poster boy weapon of 40k
Chainbros...

>>3096165
They would too. Having assault have to rollslop and plink for an eternity and a half at every thrope he has to solo seems like a fucking stupid but deliberate design decision.

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>>3096113
sniper is fun too. assault and sniper are fun. so is heavy. vangaurd, tact, bulwark are fun in their own way. still havnt bothered leveling tech marine

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i perfected this ravener. i really like the ammo bolt sniper instead of the heroic. the damage and "fire rate" variants are crap too

>>3095944
as someone who plays assault a lot techmarine is nice because you just press a button and zoans are gone

TERRA COMMAND
TERRA COMMAND
WE ARE EIGHT STANDARD HOURS OUT
I SAY AGAIN, WE ARE EIGHT STANDARD HOURS OUT
WE ARE DEPLOYING IN WIDE FORMATION
TERRA COMMAND
TERRA COMMAND
HOLD THE LINE

Warp translation was extra fucked today.
We lost at least 40% of the below-deck crews.

I think ~60 weeks of "unique" stratagems is their limit.
We've repeated the first two so far, and chances are we'll just be cycling through ones we've done before. Unless I'm proven wrong next week.

what did the vatniks do to the gaunts?

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alright what loadouts do i use for Tactical and Sniper to get my 9 kills per match in PvP?

>>3098573
I used Bolt Rifle for Tactical and BSR for Sniper. Assists count now, so it's a lot faster to clear

>>3098573
>Tactical
HBR or Plasma for me
>Sniper
Cloak + Krak + SMG
But play it on Helbrute mode to make things even easier.

>>3098576
>>3099224
i feel a deep sadness for half the people in this mode
>genuine sweatlords as if this was competitive
>in fucking SM2

>>3098573
We haven't found a way to CE the unlockable chaos armour sets?

>>3099731
There is one in Leman's first post IIRC.

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>>3099421
Honestly, it takes me back to the simple Xbox 360 days of Multiplayer where it mostly felt tacked on cause Singleplayer/Coop took most of the resources.
Nowadays its mostly reversed, but when I think about 40k, I think large scale Battlefield type battles and not like 7v7 Space Marines cramped in a small library, but I guess it's hard to do that since like most factions just no-diff the standard Guardsman.

>>3099224
Seconding both of these, except for me it's HBR on tac and SMG on sniper with frags rather than kraks. I like that a frag blowing up at somebody's feet one-shots them, I use them on everybody. Also SMG sniper is just nasty in general.

>>3099996
I picked up on kraks after losing to too many bulwarks and heavies

>>3099797
>golden aquilla blood raven
didn't read but I agree

>>3100216
kek

>>3099797
>lore accurate Blood Ravens
I'm seeing gay fucks with black aquilas and copying the shit DoW4 version

>>3099797
what red are you using?

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>>3100216
I wish we got a Battlefield esque Multiplayer 40k game.
>>3100353
Khorne Red for Base Red
Wraithbone/Corvus Black for Pauldrons
Gold for Aquila/Small Skull Bits

>>3099797
>but I guess it's hard to do that since like most factions just no-diff the standard Guardsmam
I had a dream I was playing battlefield:40k once.
The guardsmen were really weak but they were tiny targets and they could skillshot marines with their AT rocket launcher.

>>3100809
im currently playing boltgun 2 and you would not believe how dogshit the missile launcher is there

>oh boy time to ragequit another crucible the first time I go down!