New Umamusume clone just dropped
>>1845510Instead of horse races, you raise stats to fight HSR battles
>no global releaseRIP
>no globo releasegood>studiobsidegrim
>>1845512There's no four niggas in a row? Uh?
>>1845510What? It's an Umamusume clone? I was hoping it's AT LEAST a Shart Rail clone.
>>1845588Not really. Gameplay is pretty much turn based. But there's a unit training aspect to the game. Kinda like Fire Emblem Three Houses but turn based instead of SRPG.
>>1845588It's both and a bit more.A terrible chimera that tried to combine several games.
>>1845510Wait a minute, this is by that same company that made CounterSide isn't it? Ain't touching another piece of their shit ever again after how much they fucked up with CS.
>>1845578Yeah it's 3 niggas in a row, 2 of which you bring with your trainee, riveting gameplay right here
>>1845510>>1845588Gameplay: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2575832035?t=03h13m09s
That sounds like a good idea for a roguelike, but I imagine this is just a normal game.
>>1845512>Fighting UmaHey that could be co->HSR battlesFucking 0/10If they wanted to make uma but fighting they should be making them actually fight like what Virtual Circle's trying to dohttps://youtu.be/lgfx_0c8874?si=Y4xxqdR8p89c41BF
>>1846721Star savior is not comparable to Uma in general. Also it's clearly trying to be optimized for mobile like HSR since it wants to take a chunk in HSR's jp sales (it wont obviously).
>>1845510I'd try it if it wasn't PVP slop
>>1846721>Virtual circlesIs this ML/haremge
>>1846952All I know is apparently every character is based off some actual chink vtuber. Obviously means no men because>>>male vtubers. Think you can also infer how far it'll go off of thatI'm really hoping someone else steals the concept and uses it with OCs
>>1846952MC was referred as he in one of the teaser but who knows
>>1845532This, i'm expecting shitty balance because they prioritise pvp and neglecting pve like they do on counterside
>>1848863>shitty balance between PVP and PVE>constantly powercreep OP characters follow with nerf>shitty gear system>PVP focus endgame while PVE is just more mindless gear grinding so you can PVP harder>now throw in Uma training loops to min max your characters
You don't need to samefag, shitposter bro. No one knows or care about bside or some shit. They'll still try that game regardless.
really now who in their right mind would even take pvp in non competitive online games seriously when they all suck ass
>>1845510I liked CS story so I will be giving this a try.
>>1849302It even has the Administrator, so it's connected to Counterside.
>>1849287Thankfully It's not that heavyhttps://youtu.be/-ueOO8LrZZoThis game focused on story and interaction between characters(as they should). Though sadly this game turn based gameplay is just bad.
>>1846721Thanks for sharing, i missed the news about this.
>>1852594You're just projecting, retard. I never said that turn-based gameplay is bad. I just said that this one in particular is bad. Even Final Fantasy 1 turn-based gameplay is better than this.
>>1852893>Real games have better gameplayYeah no shit. How retards never fail to bitch at games thats not even well regarded for pure gameplay reasons is beyond me. And they are actually better having auto mode for it than none at all.
>It's anti-gacha shitposter
none of the mobile waifu training slop can ever compete with the GOAT
>>1845510This shit is like two years too late, nobody is going to dump their main gacha games to play it.>No simultaneous releaseKWAB, trying to go for 0/2 but from the starting gate this time.
>>1853017I compared it with HSR, the mediocre turn based and this game is lower.Now, show me your CBT invitation before you talk about something that you haven't experience yet.
>>1853042>No CBT invitation Yeah, you know nothing. Here's your last (you).
Does this give out any kind of exclusive rewards for people that played the beta, I always hate when they do that shit
>>1853034The whole generic gang is here!
>>1867340Not any more generic than uma musume and with actual gameplay so I am willing to give it a try. Character designs are one of the most easy things to improve post launch
>>1845512Sounds like it'll be just like CZN, which is HSR with an extra layer of RNG grind.
>>1886502>no global release dateI wonder why…
>>1886537We getting dubs?
>>1886537Someone should tell their marketing team what a waste of resources that is.
>>1886614that’s retarded. just release the game and add it in an update later.
>>1886614Got link of the announcement?
>>1886628Eh, they troll all the time so i'll take it with a grain of salt.There'll be livestream soon so we might get some info
>>1886628You shouldn't say "official" then. The likely reason is they're accommodating other languages than English, and that's the reason why it's taking so long. I just hope it releases within this year.
news on global launch and pre-registration on next week’s stream. lowering pull cost is nice, would be funny if stella sora shitstorm was what made them lower it.
>>1887412>stella sora>He fell for the manufactured dramabait from obvious free2poorsIts got enough freebies to pull pities as much as the average gacha if youre not an impulsefag
>>1887414i didn’t had a problem with the gacha in stella sora, stopped playing because there wasn’t enough to do besides spam ascension and hoping rng is on my side.
>>1887414>Its got enough freebies to pull pities as much as the average gachaLol. Lmao even. Even Genshin is more generous than SS.
>>1887435Thats an over exaggeration right? Genshit doesnt even have any notable freebies, let alone currency that lets you respect your time
>>1887412>stella soraPeople wouldn't be mad if it's the intended amount.
I simply won't trust anyone who claim x gacha is generous until the honeymoon phase is over and you stop getting frontload rewards from campaign and level up bonus. That's when the real game begins.
when is this up hyungskis?
>>1887435Genshin only works because USUALLY it's one banner per 6 weeks. Even then it's extremely aggressive at anti shill, where if you don't have dev intended stuff you will really fucking suffer. So 60 pulls per patch ain't enough to get you everything regardless.Credit where credit is due: Stella Sora's Earth team (0 limited chars) can deal with anything.. though it might've not been intended. But game is young. Genshin wasn't this shit early on either.If Stella Sora keeps a 3 weeks per banner schedule, around 60 pulls/month is the bare mininum.
i thought this is Uma ripoff but its actually HSR?
>>1887528it's hsr combat with uma progression system
>>1886614They delayed the fucking game and essentially killed its chance to be relevant in the west trying to...appeal to the west? What the fuck?
>>1887755Bside isn't known for being smart. Now watch them cut the dub support after 6 months.
>>1887515we’ll find out next week
>can't find it on third-party app storesEh?
>>1887755They've run two maintenances during the peak day one JP and KR hours, currently a 3 hour maintenance. Bside shooting themselves in the foot once again.>>1888255I managed to get find it on taptap, but the game doesn't let you in unless it's downloaded from google play.
>>1888385Are you using phone? What kind of phone are you using? Because you need to get ready for the most unoptimized game experience you'll ever get.Another note, there's a bug with character Trish where she'll be automatically converted to shard when you get her in gacha.
>>1849311Grim I don't want to play counter side again just to understand the story. Honkai keep throwing dumb references of their old game as well instead of being something on their own.
>>1887497The important thing is not to have that MANY limited characters. Something Counter:Side is known from.
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.studiobside.starMainthe account I made with a fake japanese address to save money on top-ups made google believe I'm japanese kek
So I actually wonder what they'll do for global considering everywhere else got it today. Releasing it like within a month of Asia launch sounds dumb, are they just gonna hyper accelerate for a month to get global caught up? On the flip side I don't think anyone will really care about the game anymore if it releases into next year, unless it ends up being really good or something.
>>1889082They will make it catch up in a few months. It's no biggie. Also Global releasing later is not a dealbreaker as you might think since it's another Big Event that people will look up to that they can capitalize on and promote the game again for more visibility.Specially since they will likely be sponsoring a bunch of big name Vtubers and stuff and ride on the big Umamusume community that grew on the west.
>>1889082>are they just gonna hyper accelerate for a month to get global caught up?100% they'll do that. I think they'll release it in January 2026 at most.>On the flip side I don't think anyone will really care about the game anymore if it releases into next year unless it ends up being really good or something.Nah. This is just plain wrong. The thing about the late release date is that they’re most likely to speed up the late server time and risk getting them shafted.
40 bucks for a ten pull is yikes
>>1889641Yeah, it’s sitting at a 2.0 on app store and complaints are about how expensive pulls are, requiring dupes to break level cap, too much loading, unnecessary special effects when interacting with menus that lags the game, and nothing special about gameplay.
>>1889648You need dupes to unlock the Live 2D which is fucking ridiculous.
so this is DOA?
>>1890427Uninformed bro...>>1890447So true, xis
Notice Regarding Future Improvement Plans for Star SaviorDear Captains, thank you for always playing SSThis is Ryu Geumtae, Executive Producer of Star Savior.First of all, regardless of the reason, I would like to deeply apologize as the person in charge of this project for failing to deliver sufficient enjoyment and satisfaction to you.As mentioned in our previous apology notice, the entire development team and I are currently making large-scale improvements across the entire game based on feedback received from our Captains.Although improvement efforts will continue, I would like to share the currently confirmed changes as early as possible through this developer note.1. Increase in Bonus for Sacred Light Stone ProductsThe amount of Sacred Light Stones in paid bundles was calculated based on standard summons and new character pick-up packs planned for future updates.However, excessively high rates were applied during the adjustment process, resulting in prices that felt overpriced and did not meet expectations.We take full responsibility and will revise the values as follows:● Current: Highest-tier pack 4,800 + 1,300 = 6,100 Stones● After Change: Highest-tier pack 4,800 + 2,800 = 7,600 StonesLower-priced packs will also receive increased bonus amounts.Players who have already purchased these packs will receive the difference in Stones.Further details will be announced separately.2. Changes to Arcpoints & Extra Moment AcquisitionArk Points and Extra Moments were designed to convey the appeal of each Liberator through special high-quality interactions.However, due to high difficulty, it has instead led to disappointment.To correct this mistake, acquisition conditions will change as follows:● Before: ○ Unlock viewing/lobby placement after 3 limit breaks of the same Savior● After: ○ Viewing unlocked at Affinity Lv. 10 ○ Lobby placement remains 3 limit breaksUnlocked content will be viewable anytime from a dedicated menu.
>>18904533. Lobby Placement for Main Story & Journey IllustrationsPlayers have requested the ability to collect and display story illustrations.We apologize for not providing this sooner.We will enable lobby placement for illustrations based on story completion and character affinity.4. Account Reset Policy ChangesPreviously, account resets were restricted for server management and anti-abuse reasons.However, this caused major inconvenience.Therefore:● Reset time reduced:~14 days ~5 minutes5. Nickname Policy ChangesNicknames were required to be unique due to global PvP design, but this reduced player freedom and increased reroll friction.Changes:● Nickname changes will use a Nickname Change Ticket● Stones previously spent on name changes will be fully refunded● All accounts receive one free ticket● Duplicate nicknames allowed6. Tutorial Policy ChangesThe current tutorial is too long and affects pacing.Changes:● Simplified structure● Skip feature available after conditions are met7. Early Game Progression RedesignFocus shifted too much toward idle mechanics instead of story and characters.To restore narrative immersion:● Guide players to Main Story EP0 after Journey tutorial● Unlock Operations after EP1● Relax story unlock conditions● Add prompts to encourage story viewing● Provide natural introduction to Journey content on first play8. Reduced Requirements for Liberator IconsUnlock conditions remain too strict even after earlier adjustments.Changes:● Before: Affinity Lv. 30● After: Affinity Lv. 5All players will also receive materials required to reach Affinity Lv. 30.9. Incorrect Material Costs for R-Rank ArcanaWe confirmed incorrect upgrade costs for Moonlight Water and Gold.Fixes:● Correct required values● Refund excess materials spent
>>189045410. Battle Experience ImprovementsPlayers feel combat lacks strategic depth.Planned adjustments:● Nova Burst reduced cooldown + increased damage● Reduce excessive cooldowns for certain liberators● Various new mechanics to increase strategy● Rework buffs/debuffs● Strengthen Break Skills (reduced cooldown, stronger gimmicks, PvE-exclusive effects)More details will be provided in patch notes.11. Shortcut Menu ImprovementsMenu layout is confusing and will be reorganized for better usability in an upcoming update.[Implementation Schedule]Changes will be applied starting this week through patch updates.New feature additions may take longer, and updates become difficult mid-December, but we aim to apply all changes by January.This is not the final iteration—we will continue improvements based on your feedback.Thank you for continuing to support Star Saver despite the inconvenience.Ryu GeumtaeExecutive Producer, Star Savior
Maybe it's a good thing global is releasing later than jp/kr.
>>1890460Yeah, so we now know to never play this shit and ignore any and all news about it, and also to avoid anything done by this studio.
>>1890453>Lobby placement remains 3 limit breaksSo you still have to mega whale to be able to put the character you like in the lobby screen, what a shit show. Imagine saving currency to roll a character you were looking forward to, spending 200 rolls, and not being able to set it as a secretary. Is there even another gacha that does this?>>1890455>Battle Experience ImprovementsSo instead of actually making the gameplay feel good, they instead buffed every character to make the gameplay feel easy instead. Not only that, they introduced "PvE-exclusive effects", so their focus is still going to be PvP, as expected of a KR dev.Imagine actually playing this shit for more than a couple of days and being hopeful that the dev will make the game good, despite how counterside turned out.
>>1890677Counterside wasn't your first hint?
>>1890677After seeing firsthand how they fucked up Cside I expected nothing and was still disappointed.
>>1890814>Copied from popular games, dumbed down everything, added more paywall with worse gacha rate>flopped.As expected of Bside.
Now the cartel will start killing Bside employees for the loans they've taken for SS.
>>1845604Same. Fuck them for ruining a game I actually loved.
>>1887478Stella Sora isn't generous but it's way better than Genshin if you are f2p, I'm f2p, I have every limited character so far and I still have 55k gems, the rate for SSR characters is way higher in SS and there's a Spark at 120 that doesn't count towards the 100% limited character pity at 160.
>>1891129it's already miles better than any hoyoslop by virtue of not taking much time to invest into. currency economy doesnt really bring in the full picture of how shitty the game actually is
>trusting bsideCome on now. How many times did you guys need to learn this lesson?
>>1891288i just want a decent looking harem game that isnt flopping and thriving and this game blew it away, just how hard is that to ask
>>1891290Apparently asking them to give up chasing the female audience causes devs to think they can charge us double. And also cut corners on game design.
>No Naielle expyDOA
>>1891082>>1891082I honestly wanted to believe that they could learn their lesson after they fired the mongoloid PD that fucked up the Origin update but it seems everyone in that company suffers from terminal retardation. A shame, the game had top of the line characters even to this day
>>1891388>fired the mongoloid PD that fucked up the Origin updateSeeing how SS turned out, 99% chance he got "honorable demotion" and was put in charge of SS.
>>1891403>SSDamn, I am going to keep messing up between this and Stella Sora.
SSR rate from 2.5% to 4%Rateup now 2% instead of 1%and a bunch of other stuff announced. They also made rerolling basically instant
>>1891499Too late lmao
>>1891499Definitely much better but isn't the guaranteed pity at 200 pulls? That's still way too high. A guaranteed copy at 100 rolls should be the bare minimum for a game demanding dupes.
>>1891616Acquisition is fine but the big difference are skills being dupe locked while Nikke doesn't.
Wasn't there supposed to be some stream with global launch info? What happened to that?
>>1891956
>>1892022>marchglobal people will forget about this because of endfield.
>>1892023>forgetMost won't even be aware of its existence, Bside has no money for marketing.
Koreans are on board with the new changes now.It's going to end up being a case of KR and JP being the beta test for global as usual.
Still not on board with the lack of voice acting when other titles with a lower budget do have them. Feels like a sign of cheapening out a product
>>1892023No one cares for shitnights or shitfield(rebooted development: The game)
>>1892214Are gooks really alright with having to pull dupes for a fucking lobby scene? I thought it was the nips that had bottom of the barrel standards
>>1892496people were fine with it in nikke, not surprising they’ll be okay with it in star savior
>>1892511i haven’t played it in a year and a half, but i remember dupes unlocking burst animation for lobby screens
>>1892496Do you live in some alternate reality where Korean isn't the home of p2w shit mechanics?
>>1892522I live in the reality where the previous game made by these devs tried none of that garbage, not even the original Origin update tried to be this scummy
https://x.com/StarSavior_EN/status/1991060961617457375Was this global announcement stream the KR or JP stream earlier, or will there be a dedicated stream for us. If not then holy fuck this company sucks at marketing.
>>1892590They seem to assume that anyone who even has a single lick of interest in this game would already follow all their KR/JP twitter and youtube accounts, so no need to spend extra money for marketing.
Didn't start on day one because I (mistakenly) hoped that the global release date would not be far off.But they revealed that global launch is 3-4 months from now.Is it too late to start now?also, I find it a bit weird that they not only don't do simultaneous release for KR/JP server and Global server in the big 2025 but also did not announce the release date on global account
>>1892867The first few days were a massive disaster with bugs, emergency maint, shitty rate, no reroll and so on. If anything it's better to start now after they fixed most of the problem above.
>>1892867Yes. It's too late. You missed one SSR selector(including cosmic) if you start it now.
>>1892867Global is an afterthought, the revenue of the west is usually 25% of the total (with JP/KR/CN being a distribution of 20 to 30% each). Its clear they aren't confident that the game is going to do well in the west, or they don't think its going to be worth the investment, better to put all their efforts on the local version and when they have some extra time to spare after stabilizing they can do global.
>>1893031That was because the whole publisher and server change from Nexon to Bside then global with JP server. Any game went through that shit will never recover.
do we know Omega's rarity? one of the few units from this kusoge that caught my eye
>>1892867>release 3-4 months from now>has to compete with KaleidoriderThose fucking morons..
A heterosexual man with functioning brain would simply play both.
>>1894577Source for that Kaleidorider release date, tranny?
Why is there no global release yet? Do I really have to wait another year for this?
>>1894950The devs don't want your retarded ass money, you can't even do a google search
>>1895174Kek. He doesn't even read this thread.
Is the game fixed yet? Should I just wait 3 months for global? Will they even address the problems with JP for the new server? I have no idea about this company
Does the pity points in the limited banners carry over like in Nikke?
>>1895439I think the main problems are gameplay and optimization. Honestly I'm not expecting much from Korean for optimization issue and it's really hard to make something from broken parts than just create new thing altogether, so I don't think the gameplay can be "good" either. At least they acknowledge it though. ZZZ devs still won't acknowledge that they're making a boring button mashing game.>>1895454Yes. But be careful about Cosmic characters. They're usually work with different rules.
>>1895501>Yes. But be careful about Cosmic characters. They're usually work with different rules.What do you mean? If the banner is a cosmic character then the pity wouldn't carry over? So I guess it's safe for me not to use the pity I got in the bunny girl banners?
>>1895501>Mihoyo>ever admit they are doing something wrong.WWIII would happen before that.
>>1895504I think you know better than me about this. How does Nikke pilgrim banner works? Is normal banner pity can be used in pilgrim banner? Star Savior copy Nikke banner system to a T. So it should be the same. Though I think you should still only use your gacha currency in Cosmic banner.
>>1895501I already like the bits of the game I see from clips, I just didn't start immediately because apparently it was Day 1 WuWa/ToF level unplayable, which gets even worse since I'm on Android. As long as it's>HSR but all womenI'm sold. So, is it?
>>1895514Yeah I thought it was similar to NIkke but I can't be too sure. If it's exactly like Nikke then I guess I'm safe. Thanks bro.
>>1895522>So, is it?Sadly, nope. It's worse. They've got great animation, but sadly the battle system sucks. The only limitation we have is cooldown and it's too fucking long. So you'll always want to use your Ulti then Skill, then forced to use Normal attack for at least 3 turns(non maxed skill will forced you to use it for 5 turns instead). They've acknowledge it and said that they will fix it, but I doubt it. On the other hand, I think the story and journey story is better.TLDR; if you don't mind auto battler tier gameplay, then it's a good game.>>1895528Ur welcome. Unfortunately(or fortunately for us) they're flopping and I don't think they'll do another Korean moment. So I expect they won't stray from Nikke gacha system.
https://x.com/StarSavior_JP/status/1995442478988611591I think they'll pick the "generous and trust" route from now on. I just hope that they don't shaft Global, because it'll 100% make them dead in Global. Oh and also I hope that they'll fix every problem(app optimization and gameplay related) before releasing Global server, so that we'll be glad that this game release late so that we don't need to "beta test" it.
>>1895549So they were able to reach google play rank 1 after all. That's surprising after all the fuckups at launch.
>>1895550Every game, even slop, gets to rank 1 during their first month, its nothing special.>>1895549They are probably going to "fix" the currency problems, but theres no way they fix the gameplay, its just a bunch of different systems copied from other games thrown together without any cohesion or thought put into why they work
How many lolis?
Is this game in the gacha pvp memechart?
>>1895765No one has shitposted about it yet so I guess it's not included there for now.
>>1895765Maybe when it gets global server, this game doesn't generate enough shitposts and drama to catch their attention.
Using konpeito (as the nips call it) as a way to time-gate progression is a bit annoying since you get so little of them compared to other upgrading resourcesMost features are from other (mostly) gook games so if you have played them before, it's pretty easy to figure it outNot that I blame them of course. while some retards might say it's plagiarism, I think it's better that it's somewhat similar to other popular games since it helps the players adapt to the game faster rather than learning everything from zero. It's like how most gacha have similar UI placements (though I don't know if it's fair to compare UI to gameplay)I still think adding mini-uma gameplay is an... "interesting" choice
>>1895919Copied other games? Everyone do that nowadays so I don't think it's the real issue here. But they simplified everything so they can cram as many different systems as possible and the game ended up just being an uninspired patchwork of various popular games in the market. This is why people say the gameplay is just boring busywork with nothing stands out.
>>1895929>they simplified everything so they can cram as many different systems as possibleyeah, I see it now that you said it.It tried to be too many things that it just end up feeling overwhelmingI think the game would've been more enjoyable if they took out mini-umaI really don't get why it's theregear substats autism is here too but I suppose it's expected from a gook gacha
>>1895934I am sure the uma training system was something that got added later during the game development, since the early PVs for the game didn't show any glimpse of it. At first it was probably planned to be another HSR with mix gender cast (there was a twink in the reveal PVs) but when the game was officially named Star Savior they removed that guy and showed the training system as part of the new gameplay system, they even proudly claimed that "we also have umamusume/gakumas at home" in the interview, so yeah some dumbfuck greenlit that idea and changed the game direction during its development.
>>1895935That shota(?) was turned into Bell, I think.It was a good decision imho.Should've stayed an HSR clone, though
>>1895963>Bside>reputationI can see their ultimate PVPslop endgame with constant powercreep and hours you have to spend in the training sim every time they drop a new one to perfect their stats. God bless if they even remember to update PVE content.
>>1895986>God bless if they even remember to update PVE content.that was the best part of the apology stream, they said there were going to "give special pve buffs to make progression faster", meaning they design units with pvp in mind and pve is an afterthought if thatI can't believe anyone would be retarded enough to be exited for the global version
>>1895765what the other 2 Anons said but basically no one cares about the game enough in the West to even want to memepost itStill waiting for global tho, played a week of JP but can't get into it knowing I'll restart
>>1896201Why do you want trogdolytes to notice this game? I don't want any HSR faggots to know that this game even exists.
>>1897030>Why do you want trogdolytes to notice this game? I don't. I was just answering the other Anon as to why this isn't on the memechart
>>1897030it's not even known in its own genre, that says much about how much people care about the game
>>1897474Consider Rememento, which is another HSR/Epic 7 clone, already announced soft EOS, I doubt this game is going fare better. Dragging out Global release is going to push their shit in even further.
arca whale gets a 6k usd refund:https://arca.live/b/starsavior/155724045KR on mass refund mode. JP cord feedback (translated):Dear Management Team Member,Today, Brown Dust 2 and Epic Seven announced their upcoming update plans. Both plans clearly address the player's perspective, including creating new gameplay, reducing player workloads, and increasing benefits.This contrasts sharply with the hollow, empty "update plan" announced by your company's producer a few days ago.Whether a game is loved by players depends, first, on understanding its strengths and making the most of them. Second, on providing good "service" to players, identifying their pain points, and building a foundation for long-term management.Your management team has not achieved even one of these two fundamentals.Regarding your company's strengths:Do you think that casually assembling various game systems is a "strength"? No. You yourself should know this.
>>1897648Currently, your only strength is your art (character design). That's why they're clinging so desperately to the most critical aspect from players: "Home Anime can only be unlocked through a complete breakthrough." They're afraid that changing it would mean they'd no longer be able to make money.From start to finish, you've never once considered how to improve the game, create new strengths, or extend its usefulness. All I can sense is your mindset: "Make as much money as possible now, while the novelty is still fresh in players' minds, and then fade away quickly."Regarding player complaints (pain points),You're well aware of this, too. How many streamers and video creators have pointed out that your training system and the RTA mode are starkly inconsistent?Why is it that character passive skills can only be strengthened by randomly selecting multiple characters?This is the biggest contradiction in a game that includes an RTA mode. You're well aware of it, too. Similarly, I'm aware that your gameplay sucks, and understand that your only way to make a profit is by relying on pay-to-win elements like this.Let's compare them.Compared to Epic Seven, your equipment system and RTA balance are crap.Compared to Uma Musume, your training system is extremely stale and boring.Compared to Nikke and Brown Dust 2, your employee benefits are a world apart.While character design is your only strength, it's not unique enough to overwhelm your competitors.
>>1897651You rip off everything and make everything even more boring. I've played all of these games and paid for each one. However, the pressure to pay for them all combined doesn't compare to this one game.Now, to the core issue. Why on earth should I play Star Savior?Furthermore, is there any other game at this point that offers four featured summons (UP gacha) right after launching service and only distributes a small number of summon tickets? Do you think that distributing a few character fragments amounts to "giving a character as a gift"?Let me be frank with you. From the start, your company never gave the slightest thought to making a good game or achieving stable profits over the long term. You simply created a product haphazardly, "copied" systems that other companies were making money from, crammed everything into one, and aimed to make a quick buck during the temporary frenzy at the start of service, without caring what happened to the game after that - this is your company's true objective.So, if you continue to remain silent, make excuses, and gloss over all your "improvements" with minor details that are irrelevant to the core mechanics, namely:Lowering the hurdle for unlocking home animeAbolishing the passive skill unlock system that relies on character breakthroughs, or changing it to an easier methodOptimizing the "Uma Musume"-style training and support card system, which have been endlessly criticized by players-- Without making any changes to these, you'll just keep as many players as possible hooked for the short term with small perks, squeeze as much out of them as quickly as possible, and then fade from player memory like Counter: Side. If you truly want this game to be a success, first optimize the game's core mechanics in a way that alleviates the pain points that players are pointing out.Otherwise, you'll soon be reduced to a stray dog on the side of the road.
>>1897652I mean praising Nikke while also complaining that you need to MLB to get the lobby screen in Star Savior is peak hypocrisy since Nikke does the same thing. Kek
>>1897648wonder what they devs are gonna doI doubt it's easy to completely overhaul the gameplay especially when it's after launch and they only managed to fix a couple of problemsDid they really think that gluing together features that aren't compatible with each other while also downgrading them will somehow make the game work?
>>1897768Games with no solid direction and just rely on feature bloat, trying to do many things at once are doomed to fail. Doesn't help that they seem to think they can survive in the current market with just a handful of whales grinding PVP like meth addicts in the same way as CS.Either they take a bold move and shutdown the game to overhaul it or just accept its fate and continue to milk those suckers who still stick to the game for all it's worth.
>>1897801>shutdown the game to overhaul itthe global release is around march next year so if they're quick about it, they could announce a shutdown after the current ended to remove and improve features and re-release it alongside the global servercan't say much about other features but the uma training shit needs to goit's a waste to throw away the animations and CGs but it has to goarcana can be reworked into equipment like FGO's craft essence insteadI hate the gear substats autism too but I doubt they will throw that one away so it is what it is
>>1897812This is by far one of the most moronic take I've read. Journey is literally their most likeable feature. You should just shut your mouth and spare the world from hearing your retarded take.
The retard here really like to spout some shit. 70% reason why this game failed is because optimization and these monkeys don't even say that.
>>1897826>Journey is literally their most likeable featuresays nobody ever
>>1897828I had a bad launch because the rerollers can't reroll. Literally 90% of the 1* reviews in google back during the first days was they can't reroll. They loosened the reroll restriction and increased the SSR rates but they still lost a lot of hype during the first week.
>>1897878Never understood that mentality.
>>1897831If you're retarded and ignorance, then yeah.>>1897878That's still not the core issue. If it's true, then all hoyoverse games will be dead by now.The main issue is still optimization. MH Wilds and CP2077 got hit by this problem and flopped. To make matter worse, they can't release the steam/pc version simultaneously, so everyone(including the one with gaming phone) will still feel the lag.The second most important issues is gameplay. The gameplay is just boring and braindead. Now, it won't be that big of a problem because the skill animation is good and you can leave it on auto. But because the stupid optimization, you can't even enjoy it.Because of these problems, people become critical and nitpick everything.
>>1897886It's the most basic QOL you can give new players. Everyone knows people are going to be rerolling, it's not some industry secret.
KR mass refunds and mass 1* review bombs continuing
>>1897960It's just retardation. Open the game and stick with what you got. There's no need to foster poorfag mentality.
What makes me wonder is that why nobody complained this much during cbt
>>1898197You can believe whatever you want little bro, but the fact of the mater is that rerolling is a HUGE part of the fun asian players and players simply aren't going to stick with the game if it doesn't let them have their fun (rerolling until they get the unit they want)
>>1898209Everyone was coping by claiming "they are going to adjust it for release!", at the time people thought the game could be fixed simply by moving some numbers around.This isn't uncommon for betas, OP stuff and glitches are sometimes found months after release.
I actually like the game so it's too bad that only JP can help them since they're not as vindictive. At this point KR is actively trying to get it to shut down for some reason and there's no way this game will amount to much in Global.
I'll still try it if it ever comes to global on PC
Western MLbros will save this game
>>1898641>it's too bad that only JP can help them since they're not as vindictive. Sadly they earn much more from KR and that's saying much(they're flopping in JP)>At this point KR is actively trying to get it to shut down for some reasonI agree about this. Though on the other hand, we got many freebies and improvement because of this reason.I've said it and I'll say it again that the major problem of this game is with their optimization, but KR become too critical and nitpick everything.>there's no way this game will amount to much in Global.With how much they made, I don't think global will be that insignificant. Sadly I can see them shafting global(To be fair, delayed release date is them shafting us already). I expect minimum of 1 cosmic selection ticket and I won't paid anything if they don't give this.
>>1898861But what if it comes with undressing feature
>>1898895You know full well they will give skins with extra fanservice features as some kind of premium bonus for whaling like CS prestige skins.
>>1898895My point is IF it's good enough to be locked behind dupe then i might cave in, fuck poorfags.
>>1898911>>1898913Don't worry, when the game falls under the red line they will start copying another infamous KR game, Brown Dust 2 and have all the girls popping out their nipples and cameltoe on their l2d lobby screen. Of course it will still be locked behind dupes.
>>1898822>To be fair, delayed release date is them shafting us alreadyGlobal is gonna miss out on those random 5* they gave out in mail as compensation on top of selectors with cosmic units. I'll probably just be a f2p leech in this game if they do shaft global. Knowing Bside they're probably gonna shaft global FIRST then issue an apology and hand out gibs for global.
>>1898918I don't care about random *5 as long as the game is "fixed". I just want that *5 selection(inc. cosmic) even if the game is fixed. On the other hand, if the game is still broken, then we do deserve what KR & JP get.
>>1898938They can take their time with gameplay mechanics. Gacha on the other hand is something they can fix immediately, best they can do is to add a mileage system instead or on top of pity count.
Not even the "Legendary SHE" can save this game.
>>1898984I bet they already cut "the Legendary SHE" and replaced her with a lookalike because they don't want to confuse those poor people who didn't play CS before.
>>1898986>a good run>*looks inside*>release date Nov 20
>>1898184QRD? Didnt the KR rating rise to 4.1 after gacha changes? >>1892214
>>1899752>Gacha change and high rating attracted more people to try the game>These people realized the game is dogshit because of shit optimization, bad business model, boring gameplay etc>Put more 1 star rating so the score dropped again.Something like that.
>>1899752It went up to 2.5Personally i think it's good that people are being vocal and the devs aren't trying to hide it by manipulating the ratings.
Kaleidoriders will save us
>>1899779>3241 reviews 1.2>391 reviews 2.5You guys looking at different stores or what
>>1900055I guess gpg has a different rating.
>>1900063They said they're willing to change so i'll take their words for it.
JP Steam release when?
>>1900638maybe in March along with global
>>1900655SEA MLbros will save us
>>1900812Nice poorfag cope, kek
>>1900810Looking forward to pc client because i ain't touching emulators.
>>1900812True. SEAchad will carry this game.
>>1900895does google play games count as an emulator?
>>1900965Yes, it's not a true PC client
>>1900965Depends on the game. Some games run via emulator, some games are just the PC version.
>>1901950Everything? Even being my wife?
>>1901950Loli trash when
arca refunding and dooming as usual:https://arca.live/b/starsavior/156387318also schizo posting owari da Kim Bside
>>1902055JP simply doesn't care about the game meanwhile KR is continuing to try to burn it down. Will NA/EU and SEA keks be the Savior for Star Savior?
>>1902010there's enough omega for both of us
>>1902057lmao you can't be serious
>>1902057So it will be DoA
>>1901950
>>1902085Yeah in two weeks sister, trust.
>>1902087Cside flopped so this shit can flopped harder, cope
>can flopped
>>1902088>can floppedcalm down mohammed
KR livestream user statsup to the package = whalingfold = dropping game
>>1902105Cross server RTA, JP and KR gets a nearly 4 months head start if global launches on time (March 26). Aka global will be perma 4 months behind on idle resourcesSource: AGF interview/livestream
>>1902106Yeah this game can't be any deader.If there is one thing gacha players hate, that's being left behind while other people got head start advantage. I really can't fathom which fucking idiots are making these insanely stupid decisions for Bside.
>>1902106Sounds like an intentional scummy way to lure people to whale on Global
>>1902105>hopeCHADS outnumbering doomtroonsBased, i'm hopeful too.Let's see what they can do in 4 months.
>>1902222>F2P no charge>HopeCHADsSure anon.
>>1902233Goes to show that people still have expectations for the game.>BUT SAAR THEY NOT PAYINGGood, show those jaded devs that you're smart enough to not fall for their scummy practices.
>>1902258>took a break for a while>can no longer obtain the full rewardit didn't solve shit
>>1902222The big whales and spenders are quietly refunding and probably didn't vote in the poll after livestream/AGF. There were also refund guides in Arca but they probably got taken down by mods at some point.
Tribe9 soon?
>>1902271>probably>probably
It's over. We are going back to Wuwa.
>>1902276it do be like that sometimes
>Flopped hard in JP>KR players are doing everything to sink this game>Bside are unintentionally sabotaging Global release by sheer incompetenceMaybe the CN server will save this sinking ship, since I honestly can't see a way for them to survive the odds
>>1902282Not related but Counterside's China servers EOS'd lel. CN isn't exactly fond of Bside either.
>>1902302No way unless 100% refunds are possible, I'd imagine there's some legal repercussions if they did that
>>1902324I recall after 6 months you aren't eligible for refunding anymore or something. There is a reason all these games always try to last for 6 months before announcing EOS.
>>1902302I don't think StudioBSide has the financial capacity to do that. Even Kuro had to push an unfinished game out because they couldn’t afford to let Wuthering Waves stay in development hell any longer, even with Tencent backing them. Only companies like Mihomo, Cygames and Hypergryph can operate at that level.
>>1902344>Mihomo, Cygames and HypergryphNone of them actually pushed out a flop and had to remake to fix it, so it's not really the same. Staying in development hell or endless beta is still better than shutting down and remaking the game after launch, the bad rep and words of mouth would be enough for people to avoid the game even with 2nd attempt.
>>1902357Trickcal’s second attempt was actually pretty successful, but then again I don't think BSide has the financial capacity to do so
>>1902360I guess people still draw to Trickcal for its unique charm, while Bside went for generic 3d graphic with generic gameplay and now it completely bit them in the ass.
still gonna play the game btw
>>1902386Play KR, at this point just don't waste your time waiting for global
>>1902387nah i'll wait.
>>1902362Trickcal or any other gacha with unique premise wouldnt have saved it if the game ifself was as awful as star savior is for that matter
>>1902357Wasn't prico a flop that had to be remade?
>>1902402Well Cygames considered it's a sequel rather than a remake, and even so it managed to last for a year and half, which was considered normal for a mobage back then when they were more or less just throwaway cash grab projects for many companies.
https://steamdb.info/app/3609080/Game released on steam, can't view in my region so have a steamdb link
lolige
>>1903385>>1903387Pantsu status?
I've heard this is a yurige? Can anyone confirm?
>see clip of cute bunny girl dragon with a cute butt and cute tail>look inside>total gacha deathwhat the fuck nooooshe looked so cute
>>1903603almost everyone has it but so far there's no easy way to look it up
>>1903691>>1903694>>>/vg/sora
>>1903703Well Shift Up should let us upskirt characters in the model viewer, no reason for this not being possible.
>>1909194Only idiots and people who never experienced Bside's incompetence would get hyped for this game. The fact that they managed to do worse than the low expectation speak volumes of how dumb they are.
>>1909241Yeah removing males from the game was a mistake, am i right sis?
>Bumps a dead thread just to seethe about it again.Just let it die in peace xis.
>>1909340This thread will stay till Global release before it can rest in peace.
>>1902357>Mihomo>None of them actually pushed out a flop and had to remake to fix it
Seems like Mihoyodrone sissies badly want this game to not succeed. Agenda-driven much? Hoyochinkshit really is a plague in this subculture.
>That ankle and leg positionbwis I don't feel so good..
>>1911136AI is the future my friend
>>1910025Lol, why would we care about this insignificant small game that it's killing itself?We have bigger fish to catch
>we
>>1916281You think they still have money to do anything else if SS flops? Filing for bankruptcy the only option left for them.
>>1916373Sadly I agree. BSide doesn't deserve to touch another video game ever again.
>bumping the thread just to seethe>again
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarSavior/comments/1pvskjs/review_of_star_savior_1_month_in/>In fact, a lot of people are super concerned at the moment because the recent banner is super OP, meaning that powercreep is about to start for the game only a month in, highly dupe-dependent, while also being a Cosmic (only 1% per pull instead of 2%) when it had no reason to be one, making it super suspicious of being a cash-grab and that the devs have given up on the game's long-term health. The new banner is also a variation of an existing character (Waltz Asherah v. Asherah), and is full of recycled assets.
>>1916444>arca is full of people posting their spark screen just to get her first copyYou know how fucked the rates are if this happens, on top of that they never mail an apology, a survey, or any random gibs in general unlike other kr devs.
>>1916281What do you mean counterside died?
>>1916448You do know that the spark shit carries over right? Like if you rolled enough during the past banners you can just post your spark screen too even though you never rolled in this banner.
>>1916438Yeah they just return once a week just to seethe. It's pretty funny at this point that they're too invested in the game's downfall.
>>1916485They won't bother posting a screencap of them using their points with a huge "NOT OBTAINED" if they're not pissed. I know because i'm close to 200 myself and haven't gotten that much ssr let alone a single fucking cosmic.
>>1916489What are you even talking about. Everything about their banners except for the arcana are the same as Nikke's.
>>1916491Yeah and I got 4 copies of her in 50 rolls. So that means your luck just sucks.
>>1916491You really believe the people in arca are posting in good faith and that they really all didn't get anything in 200 rolls? They literally have been trying to bring the game down since release so I bet a lot of those are just trolling and didn't actually have to roll a lot.
>>1916494They will get bored and move to Endfield next month anyway.
>>1916488I understand why people are voicing concern(as they should) but unlike some doomsissies itt i have the firsthand experience>>1916493Good for you. Unfortunately the lucky few don't make up for the majority of the playerbase and they need all the goodwill they could get as they're leaving in droves.
>>1916492It's objectively worse than Nikke even if its identical (which imo is a generous gacha) because it's far more expensive for a couple reasons: Support card banners alongside character banners, and dupes are required unlike Nikke where characters function at their full potential without dupes. Just imagine how awful your pity stock would feel, if you can even afford one, if they add limited character banners. The standard banner also doesn't have a wishlist, while Nikke had one on launch.
>>1916444>In fact, a lot of people are super concerned at the moment because the recent banner is super OP, meaning that powercreep is about to start for the game only a month in, highly dupe-dependent, while also being a Cosmic (only 1% per pull instead of 2%) when it had no reason to be one, making it super suspicious of being a cash-grab and that the devs have given up on the game's long-term health.Bro Nikke had Modernia in their first New Year Banner just a bit longer than a month after release with the same powercreep and the same lower rates because she's a pilgrim. I never saw anyone complain about that back then.
>>1916495Oh i'm 100% sure, the game copied nikke's gacha rules while not giving the same amount of gibs. I had to exchange for a red hood in nikke as a latefag and still got a lot changes afterwards. Whatever they're working for the global update will decide the fate of the game or even the company itself.
>>1916510Yeah and everyone has Lacy in Star Savior especially since people got a selector so what's the difference.
>>1916507>>1916510I never had scarlet until she's been reduced to a mere pvp/tower slave so alice was my only option yet the progression still feel a lot better than ss, the break mechanic in this game sucks and heavily catered towards cosmic characters, it's probably better to remove it all together for pve contents.
>>1916518So your issue is only due to BSide? Then why bring up cosmic, powercreep, lower rates than non-cosmic characters and all that shit then since Nikke did those first? Just say it straight that you hate Studio BSide and be done with it.
>>1916514>bro just get this designated meta character that you probably don't give a damn about to progress your gameHoly fucking sovlless batman
>>1916518Their unique idea was smashing a bunch of big hits together to create the "ultimate game", since they must think no one ever tried that before.
>>1916521Same as >>1916510 though
>>1916523Same as where all the weekly seething comes from. Probably the drama thread. kek
>>1916524Being the same as a three years old game is not a good thing.
>>1916534The same thing happened in Nikke's first few months is what they were talking about...
>>1916520It's simple, it's because of their BM, which is still the #1 problem with the game. Modernia doesn't need dupes, everyone and their grandmother owned her after launch. Nikke also handles powercreep fairly well in comparison, and New Years then became a trend for Pilgrims so its no longer unexpected. Meanwhile BSide seems to be shitting out 1% Cosmics before rebalancing the game, that require dupes and recycled assets, like it doesn't matter. No shit their players are gonna hate it.
>>1916535The reception isn't the same thanks to the problems that i, this anon >>1916538, and the ledditblog mentioned.See how other kr devs address players' concerns, none of those happened here, they just went silent.
>>1916507Because most of Nikke players are new gachafags, even newer than Genshin fanbase. You really can't reason with them.
Global when???
>>1916727March, but at this point the devs might EoS the game before that to stop bleeding money
>>1916710Either the game is designed for those players or they thought it's a flawless design that they can mindlessly copy, it is what it is.
>>1916752I'll play it either way. Give me the anime sluts.
>>1916752The sad part is that I don't think people realize how significant the problems are and that Global release might not change enough to fair any better. Look at what happened on KR/JP side: they Doubled the gacha rates (to match Nikke btw) and players are still pissed off. That's insane to think about.The game was built around the BM, not vice versa, which means the entire game would have to be rehauled from scratch. That's not possible to do in 3 months and would cost them more money than they could afford. Not only that but it completely fucks over anyone that has already whaled (which isn't a first offense BSide has done). So they have to somehow salvage this mess without jeopardizing any of that? Good luck.
>>1916998They should simply do the trickcal strat; unrelease the game, sell the directors house, and use that money to make the game playable, shouldn't take more than 12 to 18 months of crunch.Its either that or EoS in less than 6 months
>>1917008That would mean the director guy loves his work to the point of self sacrifice to keep it alive, but so far from those reports, the guy handling Bside is anything but that.
>>1917008I don't think bside ceo understands anime/meme culture that much, he's just copying anything that's popular at the time without looking into it.
I have been really interested in this.I tried umamusume, like the raising elements but couldn't keep playing because the whole horse girl thing never really did it for me, nor did the racing theme.So I have been looking forward to this since I also actually like turned based games So what's with all the drama around it, can I get a rundown? It probably is my most anticipated upcoming gacha at this point so the reception being bad is quite disappointing.
>>1919758Greedy, out of touch devs led by a clueless idiot thinking mixing a bunch of game system together would create the best gacha game ever. Turned out it wasn't that easy.Read those long posts in this thread if you want to know in detail what's actually going on with this game.
>no monthly resets>no mails>only overpriced molds that don't include cosmic and newer characterslisette a cute
>>1919758The gameplay is so bad because they want to accommodate PvP and the optimization is trash. They blew their chance because of these two most important things.
Is it time for the weekly seething session?
>>1922774>Q. With so many great games in 2026, why bother with SSE?>A. We still have SSE users, so improvements are necessary.I'm not feeling so good about Star SaviorI get that they're scrambling and people are complaining about almost everything but the attitude screams make as much profit as possible before we inevitably have to pull the plug. >ceo is rubbish at games What a surprise.
>>1922774we've said this a million times, but they need to unrelease the game, funamentally change the gameplay for it to make sense, and re-release it with a different name. They have only applied bandaid fixes that one cares about, the population of the game keeps decreasing and the JP server might as well be dead
>>1922871I agree with this except with changing the name. Gameplay and the optimization are their biggest problem. The story, character design, and the animation are good enough.
>>1922774That's a lot. I'll still keep it on radar for now but idk for how long.
>>1922936>Ability costNope. Cooldown. And that's the reason why the gameplay is shit. The game is too limiting that there's no strategy available. I've said this before, but HSR gameplay is a masterpiece if you compare it to this game.
>50 days """anniversary"""heh, appreciate it
>>1924467They have to celebrate it, they might not get to 100. Like how gachas now celebrate half anniversaries because of how shitty their quality is
>>1923438Cooldowns are stupid but they can at least still achieve E7 levels of strategic depth with that. Which isn't much at all but hey it managed to convince a bunch of retards that it's good enough for a pvp eSports scene
status report?
>>1936427let them cook
>>1936427Fucked. The game entered the death spiral, it keeps loosing players, and the ones left aren't spending, so it disincentivizes devs to improve the game and it keeps loosing players. The devs have implemented some minor QoL stuff, but the core gameplay its fucked and they are avoided talking about it, they clearly don't want to put in the effort to remake the game.At this point it would be better to cut their losses and shut it down, or send it back to the oven for 18 more months (like trickcal did), but there are rumors that the devs borrowed money with less than legal means, and if this game doesn't do well their other game is also fucked.
>>1936427CounterSide collab in March
>>1938012wtf I thought you were jokinghttps://x.com/StarSavior_EN/status/2016473959685070891
>>1938097you can't make this shit up
>>1938012this will save the game
the new boss eats 90% of gpu usage for some reason
>STILL doing 1% for cosmic after the backlashname any bigger retard in the industry
>>1954077shiftup does it with pilgrims in nikke, but i have no idea if the currency income in star savior is as good as nikke
>>1954095They're beyond delusional if they think they could compete with shitup
>>1954136They can. Nikke is 2D trash and this one is 3D kino.
>>1954481>3D>kinoincompatible
>>1954481Unfortunately it's closer to eversoul where they only use 3D for character while everything else plays like your average UI mashers, which only bloats the game.
how can you tell bside that nobody likes feet
I was wondering we will have a collab with Counterside on release? I see that has a way to make the playerbase from the former game move but I don't know how that will play out
Has this released yet?
>>1964420for kr and jp, yes. global is march 19.
>>1964070I mean, girls in counterside are all shipped with other males, I don't understand why would they release them in this game. Counterside players don't want to play star savior, and star savior players want nothing to do with counter side.The collab will bring in zero new players, and global players will actively avoid the game when its very first event is the counterside collab.This is clearly because no other company wants to collaborate, and it doesn't cost money.
>>1967108The game is DOA, it's 3 weeks from release and they have done zero advertising. The reddit page is dead, no one is talking about it anywhere.
https://youtu.be/j9N0Y11H9oY?si=iF66BiMUZEZqhFgmlet’s see what they’re planning for global
>>1971362>premieres in 14 hours That's an inconvenient time. How's the game been doing lately?
Mihoyodrones really hate this game huh.
>>1971676Well it "encroaches on HSR's territory" when it comes to gameplay like they invented turn-based combat and it only has female characters so mihoyofags would hate it by default.
>>1971362a lot of freebies for global.
>>1971362>global synced to existing servers>a ton of freebiesHuh. Anyone know if the game allows easy rerolling?
>>1971798they added a tutorial skip and rewards you with 10k gems for 5 multi pulls. hopefully we get those 10k gems in global too.
>gibs>qoldamn, no mentions of feature improvements, removing pop-ups and other annoying shits
>image to grab attentionI havent kept track of SS since the first week it launchedis RTA still 3333 2222 1111 spam slop? I meta fagged arena for a week before getting bored but looking to reinstall for globlul. Any metafag bros still around?
>>1972009I haven't played but I haven't heard any news otherwise. I doubt bside is capable of coming up with any new innovation in the genre so expect the worst.
Global wont have any delay when compared to KR/JP? How this will work if the game is already out in those regions for half a year?
>>1972169Just enjoy being KR/JP players bottom bitch in PVP and ranking events. Not much else I guess.
>>1972176I've meant how it will work in terms of banner schedule.
>>1972195I think they are giving a bunch of hand outs and a catch up banner that has all the girls and then we are just starting where they are.
>>1972009Never touched that mode, i'll just wait for free roam mode, surely they'll add one.
>>1971362So with global getting a shit amount of gibs I might give this game a shot. What are the units to look out for? I think I remember hearing some bunny girl was pretty good.
>>1972176*Only if you decide to create an account on KR/JP servers like a dumbass instead of Global/Asia
>>1972312oh, so pvp is separated by region? thats pretty niceI wonder why chinks are incapable of making such global releases, god bless gooks I guess
>>1972319JP and KR are in the same PVP pool. Global and Asia will probably be batched together as well.
>>1972273I don't know everyone but I know someone called Dress something was supposed to be the most broken. Probably prydwen will come out with a tier list by launch time I'm guessing.
>>1972392Yeah basically roll for her >>1911136
>>1972397Just found out apparently she's trash unless you have 3 dupes... It's going to be one of those games where you aren't allowed to pvp unless you're a whale. Not even e7 was this bad.
>>1972392>>1972397>>1972401From what I read she won't be in the pool of any available banner in the first few days of release?
Is the RTA the main appeal?
>>1972414No from what I heard the rewards are about as shit as they are in CS or even worse. Hardly anyone even does it. I think the training and story stuff is the main content.
Found this, seems to be a website someone put together with various information about the game. No clue how accurate it is. https://tychara.com/StarSavior/guides/reroll-guide
>>1972598Reading through it and most of the systems seem like direct copies of nikke, the gacha, the leveling the gear it's all nikke.
>>1972627Nothing's original anymore, Nikke themselves copied previous idle gachas
Can someone post lewdest characters from this game? Or skins? Idk if I want to give it a try yet and coom factor is the most important one in every gacha cuz gameplay/story is dogshit in each one.
>>1972392This is the current JP tier list's top characters.
So how does the whole limited thing work? Is everyone limited like mihoyo games or does mostly everyone get added to the standard pool with only a few seasonal/collab characters being limited?
I don't see the point of PvP.
The only one thing i found to be good in this game is that the mouse scrolling experience is the best in any mobile game with pc client, it's fast and snappy.
>>1973032So far the characters have been added to the standard pool after a month or so. I don't know how they will handle the collabs though.
not seeing a steam page for global release yet
>>1972911It's plenty lewd, bside is one of those small companies that flies under the radar so it can show whatever it wants. Both of their games are filled with fanservice.
>>1973186>lewd character designsnicehow ML is the story on a 1-10, I like when there is some of it but it can easily become too much
>>1973203I haven't played SS so I have no idea. The first game had very little it wasn't that kind of story. I've heard this one has a self insert though so it might be different.
>>1973039The point of PvP is to trick people into spending money to get the highest ranks. For the average person, getting your fav girl and then maxing her out is plenty. Gacha games need whales on the hook that pay for the latest girl every month to keep up with the meta.
>>1973039end game time killer and personally I like it
>>1973207>>1973247Gacha PvP sounds super degenerate which makes me want to try it
If i've read things correctly, we're starting where the current servers already are, so way the fuck behind and missing events?
>>1973393behind, nomissing events and rewards/compensation, yesdont think global will get all the apolo freebies that Jp/Kr got but I'll still give it a shot
do you get anything for pre registering? Since you can't do it for the Steam version I assume Steam will get the rewards if there are any?
>>1852996I actually got into Umamusume because it's a drastically improved version of Monster Rancher.
>>1973169they will probably unlock current steam page for a limited amount of countries on a release day
>>1973004JP are gigaretards who dont know anything, I wouldn't trust them in the slightest
>>1973412That's a baffling fucking decision. They're outright saying "our story is fucking shit and the events don't matter" to global, so why the fuck should i even bother?
>>1973473I personally prefer global being released in this way instead of half a year delay which spoils everything. I dropped gfl2 solely because of that.
>>1973412Aren't they making a shop with all the rewards of the events global missed? If so I don't see anything wrong with this, we won't be missing anything.
>>1973473If you look at the launch info they are giving global an insane amount of gibs. It is one of the most generous starts I've ever seen in a gacha, we'll be fine.
>>1973473im f2p leech for this one so it's ok for me>>1973546yeah event shop sure, but JP/KR got tons of compensation outside of that over the past months when they had gacha rate change/lots of more gibs due to incompetent management
Does this game have any sort of wiki out atm? I mostly just want to see the available characters.
>>1973712We are getting a ton of free stuff for global launch as well so it balances out in our favor if anything. JP/KR is even jealous of how much shit we are getting so I don't think there is a need to worry.
Is the training Sim RNG as bad as uma or better?
>>1974198Way worse. The turn based combat is also way worse than HSR, despite that one already being pretty fucking bad
>>1974278>Way worseFalse>The turn based combat is also way worse than HSRTrue
I heard there's an OP character to save my selector for. Anyone know who she is?
I'm pumped for lewd
>>1974278>The turn based combat is also way worse than HSRworse how? as in it's even more braindead and stat/gear reliant?
>>1975151NTA but from what I've heard skills just have cooldowns like epic seven instead of the points based system of HSR. I started gacha games with e7 so personally it doesn't bother me but I guess it is more simplistic.
>zero marketinggonna fall off harder than etheria restart lmao
>>1975381look man i just wanna goon a bit okay
>>1975381It literally only needs a niche fanbase, to hell with all the popular crap with all the normalfags and troons like you swarming around it
>>1975381it's amazing how there isn't even a basic 7 or 3 day launch countdown on their twitter. instead there hasn't been a new post in 4 days...fumbling the launch by total quietness is already a good sign for how bside will handle this in the future.
Somebody please tell me that Tanya is a good unit and easy to obtain.
>>1975503>non cosmicshould be easy
>>1975503Don't worry about obtaining a particular unit. You are going to end up with all of them very soon, do take into account that they are more or less useless unless you get 3 more copies (don't even think about participating in PvP).
Looking forward to this game. Think I'm gonna soft quit Stella Sora.
>>1975589What's wrong with Stella Sora? I was thinking of giving it a try
>>1975613nta but low quality 3d models and no voice acting
>>1975589yeah this game has had me pretty excited for a while, seems to be the only thing that will scratch that really similar itch to HSR, and with the delicious lewd factor too
>>1975613Nothing really wrong with it. I kinda bricked my account by skipping some banners that didn't seem necessary, but didn't realize how team comps worked until it was too late. I'll still do dailies cuz you can finish them in like 5 minutes. But I'm probably not going to put too much effort into it at least for a while.
>look into the game>you have to do uma style rng careers>but you also have to farm rng geargooks really can't help themselves with the grind on top of grind
>>1975679I like the story enough that even if I bricked my account I would keep playing. Kind of gave up on doing Ascensions and other shit though because it's tedious.
This is coming out in a few days right?Can I at least train at my own pace in this game or does it have Uma's cancer style 24/7 club rank bullshit that makes you want to bot runs every day?
japanese/chinese could never...btw, watch this shit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guXuvAmInbA - if you are interested how characters/animations look likeshould we make /vg/ general after global release? I think this game can be quite popular in its niche, especially after Snowbreak's closure.
>>1975757You should be able to train at your own pace. Early on you don't even really care about training really since you will have to wait to unlock the hardest difficulty before going in depth into training. And even afterwards, although training is a decently big part of the game, it isn't the whole game at all. So it's not going to be like Uma where you have to spam train just for the hake of completing an event.
>>1975773vg is mostly deserted, there's no point
>>1975846>Posting this on /vmg/Talk about being unaware
>>1975848I'm correct tho, only popular gachas survive there
>>1975773>should we make /vg/ general after global release?if you wanna give it a try, go for it. it’ll probably be slow like the outerplane and eversoul generals unless we pick up a dedicated bunch of players like /ss/ did.
>>1975773>should we make /vg/ general after global release?I mean we could be a slow general, depends how much dedicated some players are, worse case scenario we'll be relegated to /vmg/ once again.But make the /vg/ thread tomorrow not now it's too early still
release time at 15:00 korean time. guess i’ll be playing a few hours after launch.
>>1975858Plenty of niche games have survived there. And this game is far more mainstream than a lot of games there. If Sword of Convallaria can maintain a thread, star savior easily can.
>>1975878Is that also the daily reset time or is my account bricked if I can't play right after launch
>>1975898Having someone to pity bump every other hour isn't exactly alive
>>1975878man I hope steam is available on day 1
>release tomorrow>stella sora half anniversary next monthI got my gacha games planned out for the time being.Pretty much dropped all my gacha games so it’s a good chance to start anew. I hope the story is good, I trust the bside devs with how great the counterside stories were
>>1975773Yeah of course no reason not to make a general and advertise in the usual places. Gotta get the word out since bside doesn't want to pay for advertising. If anything it's nice to have a place for initial hype for a few weeks. Who knows, cs did pretty well globally we might actually be the ones that save SS too.
Rosariasisters... are we back?
>>1976136I'm upset they aren't releasing her at launch. Now I'm sure if I should start or wait a week for her to come out. I'm probably going to just fuck around and get used to the game and wait for her to come out before rerolling.
Where da PC launcher at?
>>1976169on steam but still region locked
>>1976169google play games is good now, run very stable and well, recommend
It's ujp
Umachad here. I heard there is Uma gameplay in this? Should I play it??
What's our guild name gonna be bros??
reroll guidehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W1nl3zfBdrgNCjLCVt7lBn0UzuwPLVnF2JkC4iamRic/edit?gid=1473713484#gid=1473713484
>>1976209Is there even guild content? Since it has e7 like combat it would be neat to have e7 guild pvp again.
>you need character dupesah, this is a kusoge
>>1976235pretty standard for gacha games these days
>>1976235You don't
>>1976232>The "ideal reroll" is to get an l/d unit which has a lower appearance rate, at least 1 dupe of them + arcanas in 50 rolls. Yeahhhh no fuck that
>>1976259yeah, i’m just going to enjoy the game with whatever i get.
>>1976235It's nikke gacha system so dupes are easy to get. It's gay yeah but only really necessary if you want to compete in high tier pvp.
>>1976234I'd also like to know but I can't imagine there not being guild battles or something. That's one of the things people whale for the most next to rta.
>steam page still region lockedWhy
>>1976270I think they are intentionally botching the launch. I can't come up with any other explanation. There isn't even mention of a launch time yet, right?
>>1976271According to >>1975878 it's 3PM KR time, but I'm not sure where he got that info
>>1976259>>1976260Not even worth rerolling until Rosaria next weekJust dickpick day 1 and reroll a week later if you want to optimize
>>1976275from the global launch preview video
>>1976276We have no idea if rosaria will even be worth it. She's probably going to be a generic dps which are the fastest to get replaced. The waltz girl will probably last years if not longer. Always reroll for utility.
>>1976277Ah okay, thanks anon
>>1976277>1AMFucking gooks man, banner hype is going to be just as dead as it was in cs because most people will be asleep. I hate this gay earth.
>>1975773Character models are decent quality.Animation quality seems good, although some of them are VERY blatantly ripped off from other games. The comments call out a lot of these.The presentation itself is obviously very HSR inspired, while the gameplay itself is basically identical to Epic Seven. Even the buff/debuff icons are the same.I assume the endgame is going to be like E7 where it's all about auto-farming PvE to upgrade gear, hoping for good (Speed) substats, and then doing PvP because... apparently Gooks fucking like gacha PvP. And then a Uma Musume training system on top of it because why not.IDK, I'll try it when it comes out to kill some time, but this entire game just seems like a strange amalgamation of other gachas fused into one without a single unique thing to itself.
>>1976277Ah OK. I apparently can't read. That's on me.
People say the story in Counterside is/was good, so I hope the same is true about this game
>>1976295Parts of it were great, lots of it was average. Don't expect limbus or war and peace quality. It's just decent for what it's trying to do with a few flashes of brilliance. You need to enjoy suffering kino though but that might not apply to SS I don't know if they are going for a more light hearted approach I'm guessing they will tone down the violence a lot.
>>1976295it’s the reason why there’s still a small dedicated fanbase for the game in kr and jp after it’s disastrous launch
i know absolutely nothing about this, post the cutest girl in the game and i'll decide if i'll give it a try
>>1976298i see jiraikei i install it's as simple as that
9 minutes until release right?Should we rev up the /vg/ thread?
>>1976304is it today or 24 hours?
>>1976304>9 minutesReally? It's region locked in my country.
>>1976304>>1976306Should be 24 hours
>>1976306>>1976307Oh haha sikeDon’t lynch me…
>>1976310It's okay anon. By the way, has anyone made a draft of the OP? Might as well post it here so we can contribute with links if any are missing, that kind of stuff
>>1976152you'll probably have enough currency to guarantee her by the time she comes out, if you somehow don't then the game is fucked anyway
>>1975773>>1976283seeing this makes me wish the dev stuck to 2D, Counterside was smooth and stylish, this just looks like a worse HSR but 3 years after HSR
isnt it out today in like 15 hours
>>1976326roughly 23 hours
>>1976323It looks pretty nice to me
>less than 24 hours left>game still listed as "coming soon" on phone and no steam page at all in my regionI'm getting concerned bros
>>1976333pretty sure that's how it is for everyone, kinda weird
>>1976330I mean it's not bad it's just mediocre and worse than the game they're trying to imitate, and it's a shame because they had another style they excelled in
Shillkun make more webm for your game, instead of paying eceleb just post the game webm in here, those bluecheckmark on Twitter will repost your webm.
WHERE'S THE FOKIN' PC CLIENT FOR US GLOBALKEKS
>>1976366I guess they'll unlock the Steam page at the same time it releases, which is dumb
>>1976366your emulator is your PC client
>Counterside selfcest collabokay, but where is my wife?
>>1976366werks on my pc
No pre download for mobile? These devs aren't very smart it seems
The client is probably unified for every region.I guess, gookdevs dont want global/chink newcomers to login a day earlier and start playing on KR server by mistake
>>1976349nta but I think design-wise its much better than HSR - character designs are way better and way less censoredgraphical fidelity is a littble bit less polished, thats true
>>1976444>design-wise its much better than HSRNot a high bar, at one point I feel like they were just replacing the heads while keeping the same body for everyone.
>>1976428>No pre download for mobile?>SEA install the game>wtf why I can't play the game>game getting spammed with 1 star review
>>1976283>this entire game just seems like a strange amalgamation of other gachas fused into one without a single unique thing to itself.LMAO there is no such thing as being truly unique. Everything is a mix of something else. How unique of a mix it is is what makes something unique. So this is quite unique if anything.
kr/jp maintenance is at 10:00 kr time for 5 hours, so hopefully preload for phone and steam will be up for global during download unless they’re really dumb.
>>1976492(me)oops, downtime not download
>>1976492Damn. 3 hours to download huh? I will still play it, but won't be paying any money for this level of shafted.
Is there any sort of pre-reg for this game on Steam? If I lose out on any currency I'm gonna be pissed
How do you get the lobby screen for the characters? is it affinity related or dupe related?
>>1976529three dupes like nikke
>>1976532So what does the affinity do? Story scene and stats I assume? Hope it isn't time gated too much behind gift and such
>>1976532That's lame as fuck. It being affinity based like chaos zero nightmare would have been much better. At least dupes aren't that hard to get.
>>1976349>worse than the game they're trying to imitateHow is it worse?
>dupeHow many dupes do you need to max a character and what are the rates..
i never go for dupes in gacha, am i fucked
>>1976554The rates are 4% so it's not even comparable to big mainstream open world slop gacha
>>1976556only if you care about pvp and guild defense rankings
>>1976559That's good at least, I'm assuming rateup is something like 2% overall. Do I need like 11+ dupes to max like Nikke or some other idle games?>>1976561>guild defenseAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhfkjhaafslkalfk I guess I'm maxing
>>1976561i do not, but missing flavor stuff like lobby screens makes me sad
Attention: this is NOT a drillSteam page is UP
>>1976567nice, we can preload already
i guess we can bake a general on vg now sonce preload is up
>>1976570The plan is to make a general later today, though I have no idea what to put in the op
>>1976563Yeah 2% for the rate up with a 200 spark mechanic that carries over
So they just unlocked the steam region. What I don't understand is, are we synced with kr and jp servers now? Will we get things after them or will we get everything the game already have for them?
>>1976574yeah, we’re synced with jp and kr servers and will get same updates as them simultaneously
Should we concern?
>>1976572Something like that/SSG/ - Star Savior General>What is Star Savior?>Current event>Rerolling guide>Character guides>thread templateput a pastebin link hereAnd if you don't have a link just add 'TBA' instead, I assume some devoted anon will make a rentry at some point
>not available in Belarusokay, bye friends
Hmmmm nyes
>>1976556No I never chased dupes in Nikke and was f2p and easily got everything I wanted and had 14 pities to spare after a couple of years. You only need to care about dupes if you are a mega whale chasing top 10 pvp ranks.
>>1976578Steam players hate gacha. Unless your gacha has a preexisting fanbase like Uma expect it to be reviewbombed to hell.>>1976579>/ssg/Home...
>>1976581Tragic, you could download the global launcher with a vpn and still play thoughever
>>1976583global launch is in 14 hours or so
>>1976583maintenance is in 9 hours and they’ll update the client with the other languages then
>>1976587>/ssg/I have no idea which general was that, enlighten me anon
>>1976578Nah, there was some drama with low rates at launch iirc, though that's fixed now. Global launch will be pretty generous in terms of rewards so it recover if other gacha are any indication
>>1976593he's just calling our soon to be general on vg "home"
>>1976578>steamWill this get censored like BD2?
>>1976593SCOOTER SPIRITS GENERAL
I never reroll, I take whatever character I get first as my lovely wife and cherish her forever for choosing me.Oh, and here's a photo of myself by the way!
>>1976604Rerolling here is probably going to offer very little benefit. I am still going to try for a certain Dark/Ligh character though. If I don't get an account with her in a day so be it.
>>1976605we do get a ssr selection box that includes cosmic characters if you don't feel like rerolling
Well at least the game didn't have a Korean meltdown like CZN, I think the game only had backlash about the economy right?
>>1976608and content not being good
>>1976608There was something about optimization too I think, but I imagine that's been fixed by now
So how does rerolling work on the steam client? Cause usually with steam gachas you're automatically bound to your steam account and can't reroll, or they make it extremely fucking annoying to do, unless there's a built in reset button.
>>1976607I know. I want two D/L characters though. So I am hoping to reroll for one of them and to then select the other.
>>1976598I can't believe they finally fixed woman soccer...
>>1976612good luck bro, it might be pretty rough
I like that we won't be behind KR/JP, but what about past events? I don't mean their rewards, but the story itself (which is supposed to be one of the game's strengths)
So when can we enter into the game?
>>197661913 hr and 14 min from now if there’s no delays
>>1976622>a maintenance without delaysdoes such a thing exist?
>>1976623for korean gachas, probably not
I expect apologems, then.
http://timee.io/e/58sshould be right i think
>>1976570>>1976572>>1976579i'd say let's wait till the maintenance starts to avoid anons logging in early only to be greeted by korean language. the first experience is important.
>>1976627Good idea
>>1976578Most likely Korean/Japan review bombing.
They released global without English?
>>1976656still got 12 hrs until global is out. they unlocked the steam client anead of time before the maintenance that will add a bunch of languages in.
>>1976657Shiiet. Well at least I got most of the assets downloaded at least.
>>1976611There is a guest button so you should be able to reroll on steam but that isn't guaranteed. I would prep an emulator ahead of time just to be safe.
>>1976657Eh? 15:00 UTC+5 is in 2h20 mins no?
>>1976670Nvm jk it's in 12h I'm dumb
I saw that Yoom and Hild were in this game. Is it even worth checking out? Looks like another HSR clone but it's Hild.
star savior maintenance and global launch timerhttp://timee.io/e/58t
>>1976647Not really review bombing if the criticism is warranted
Is this game the HSR killer?
>>1976670Twitter has 06:00 utc+9 pinned which would be in 2h? But it also had the other time
>>1976682twitter probably using an incorrect one. this is from the announcement video >>1976277
>synced with the other serversSo we get a lot of CONTENT?
>>1976686i hope so
>>1976681No it will be the Counterside killer
>>1976681it's the e7 killer (real this time for sure)
>>1976681It's the etheria restart killer
>>1976686Yeah. We basically join KR/JP at the same point instead of being behind for months. That's why they're giving away a shitload of free stuff at launch, so we don't start with bricked accounts. All the youtubers are saying that Global is basically their only hope for the game to survive.
is it up?
>>1976710you can preload it on steam, but there will be a maintenance later today and global will open after it, should be playable in ~10 hours or so
>>1976710wait 11 hours and ask again
>>1976710yeah "it" is up alright
>>1976713tiny nipples
>>1976713horned up
>LD unitslet me guess, RGB units all suck?
>>1976718Assuming this is copying E7, I don't think it matters too much.
I'm praying I don't get screwed by regional pricing.
How good is the for (you) pandering in this game? is there any fox/wolf girls?t.ALfag
How's rerolling going to be like?
>>1976728idk how reliable this site is but here you gohttps://tychara.com/StarSavior/guides/reroll-guide
>is there any fox/wolf girls?hopefully not
>>1976727love me a stankfox
>>1976729>4% rates>10 minutes per rerollThis is amazing. It has been so long since I've last seen highest rarity chance this high.
When's the game releasing
Is this game f2p friendly?
>>1976676If you liked the world of CS this is part 2. Can't hurt to see what it's like.
>>1976745~9.5 hours>>1976747Supposedly yes unless you want to take PvP seriously, then you need dupes
>>1976680It was warranted when the game launched but they reworked a lot of the game so most of the issues complained about in those reviews doesn't exist anymore. But retard bside doesn't even attempt to put on a good face. They give zero fucks about advertising.
>>1976727There were animal girls in the first game but they weren't that common. I'm sure there will be some in this one at some point. There was lots of lewds in the first game but not much (you) pandering because the story just wasn't that kind of thing. This one has a self insert though and from what we've heard there's a lot more of that. It's somewhere in between snowbreak and nikke from the little I've seen.
Working on an OP for the general. I'll post it here when it's done so we can work on finalizing it together. Don't want to just have a generic OP with no info that won't attract anyone.
>>1976757Much appreciated, anon
>>1976757Ok here is a basic template, I mostly copied the one I made for CS but it's very barebones right now. If anyone has any other links or anything you think could be added or changed please let me know. Lets try to get it done in a few hours so we can be ready to start the general before launch. /ssg/ Star SaviorStar Savior is the spiritual sequel to the Bside gacha game Counterside. You do not need to have played CS to understand SS it is being made so new players can jump right in. It is a jrpg style turn based 3d combat game with a heavy emphasis on an urban fantasy aesthetic. The highlights are the story, music and fanservice. PvP is also a feature of the game but rewards are small so not necessary to progress. Gacha rates are generous, it's very similar to Nikke and also has character training similar to Umamusume but not as arduous. >BEGINNER'S FAQ AND REROLL GUIDEhttps://tychara.com/StarSavior>HOW TO GET THE GAME:>Steam PC clienthttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3609080/StarSavior/It should also be available on Emulators (Mumuplayer or LDplayer) and phones.>GLOBAL:Twitter: https://x.com/StarSavior_ENSite: https://starsavior.com/en>CURRENT EVENT:Counterside Collab: Free Yoo Mina, Hilde gacha at launch and Rosaria gacha in a week from launch>CURRENT GACHA UNITS: Launch banner with many units to roll for>RESOURCES:>GUILDS:
>>1976762This game has guilds?
>>1976764I think so, not 100% positive but I thought it did. The first game does and I figure they will probably make some sort of guild based content like cs has.
>>1976762Now that I think about it the urban fantasy thing might not apply anymore. Most of what I've seen is just normal fantasy. Maybe I should cut that part out.
>>1976762I think the paragraph at the start could be shortened, and I'm not sure it should mention CS at the start like that. Everything else looks good
>>1976774Also I think we should mention that global is NOT behind KR/JP, lots of people don't like playing gacha that are months behind
>>1976774>>1976778How about this? Star Savior is a jrpg style turn based 3d combat gacha published by Bside in Korea. Global has full parity with the main server we aren't behind. The highlights are the story, music and fanservice. PvP is also a feature of the game but rewards are small mostly bragging rights. Gacha rates are generous, it's very similar to Nikke and also has character training similar to Umamusume but not as arduous.
>>1976779Not that anon but I wrote this earlier, what do you think?>Star Savior is a new game by Korean studio BSide, the developers of CounterSide. It's a 3D turn-based fantasy RPG with training gameplay. It features an all-female cast and optional PvP, including guilds.
>>1976783>It features an all-female castSo that's why my nigga ShiYoon wasn't shown.
>>1976762is tychara a trusted source? are there some korean wikis we could link? I'd also suggest merging CURRENT GACHA UNITS with EVENTS and add banners as events, with date ranges, reverse chronological order and keeping old events for a while. how about something like>EVENTS[26.03 - ??.??] New Banner (Rosaria)[19.03 - ??.??] CounterSide Collabalso since I'm not that familiar with CounterSide, should we keep codes in the op? if so, I'd also suggest keeping dates for codes if so.>>1976783only keep all-female in there if its a promise by the devs.
>>1976787Years ago when the game was first announced (with a different name iirc) there were a few male characters, but they got genderbent.
>>1976793>genderbentCS already does this so I'm keeping hope hope I guess but it won't be the same. Here's to hoping Edel gets in somehow.
>>1976791>only keep all-female in there if its a promise by the devsWell, I don't think they're on record saying it, but when the game was first shown there were one or two male characters, which were genderbent.I don't think they would do this if they were planning to add males down the line, but ultimately it's up to you guys. That was just a suggestion since lots of anons will instantly ignore any gacha with male characters.
>>1976797is this girl good I want to roll her
So like, are the light/dark characters the special ones, limited and with lower rates?
>>1976797>lots of anons will instantly ignore any gacha with male charactersfair, yeah. OTOH if you give the impression its all female and then add males you kill the game
I just can't wait to play a new game with my /csg/ bros again
>>1976803I love counter strike go too!
>>1976803>Someone is going to remake RosariaFeet againKino
>>1976802i think with the game having zero males in like 6 months and the genderbend pre-release, it's safe to say they won't add any males to this
>>1976798if the tierlist from tychara is to be trusted then she's SS but you would roll her even if she was weak, right?
>>1976791>is tychara a trusted source?It was made by some leddit autist as far as I'm aware, probably as trusted as any fansite. There's just not going to be a lot of solid info until global gets it's hands on it. If anyone knows any links to korean guides or info feel free to post it.
I would take all tier lists with a grain of sand. PvP and PvE needs are usually very different and we just don't know how things will shake out. I would double check multiple places or even better just roll for your dick. With the gacha rates you're bound to get everyone if you just play.
>open steam client>download game>it's all in moonrunesI might have made a mistake
>>1976814Nah, they're just adding the other languages after the maint starting soon.
>>1976814try again in 7 1/2 hours, Global isn't up yet
Is there GvGshit in this game? If I whale can I carry my anonbros?
>>1976817>>1976818I just hope I'll find my way to the english option
>>1976819I don't think it was there at launch but I assume it will be at some point since they had it in cs and it's copying e7 in some ways which also had it.
>>1976822>ebin7so this is a gear farming game?
>>1976823I don't think it's the same where you're autoing the dragon all day. I mostly just meant in the way your skills work in combat where they have a cooldown instead of the points based system hsr uses.
Cosmic rates are super abysmal, i played on KR server and i haven't gotten a single cosmic even on rate up
>>1976800Yeah basically pilgrims from nikke, although not limited just rarer
>>1976829Can you save up your spark for them? Also what are the cosmic rates? Surely they are decent enough when on rate up?
>>1976812>With the gacha rates you're bound to get everyone if you just playYeah, this. There was a YT video of the game's ult animations posted earlier in the thread, uploaded a week ago, and in the description the uploader said he's f2p and has every single character except one. If you don't care about minmaxing or pvp (like me) you're golden
>>1976829In nikke the pilgrim strategy which is what our cosmics are you used the pities you saved up rolling on regular banners to just select them since the rates are lower. When we first start that's not viable but in 6 months it shouldn't be a problem anymore.
Gotta run a few errands I'll be back in an hour and see if we've settled on an OP. If anyone else wants to make it feel free seems like we've got the basic idea of what we want.
>>1976844This game doesn't have golden tickets though.
>>1976845Thanks for your service anon
>>1976838They're half of rgb rateups and yes you can save mileages to exchange them directly>>1976844What pisses me off is that they don't bother to change the system when it clearly didn't work for them. Giving rolls instead of addressing the issue was very short sighted of them.
>>1976762The "What is" must be direct and with few words, like "turn-based korean anime pvp rpg with systems similar to Uma Musume, Nikke and HSR" or something like that if you don't want to cite other games. Well, better I do it as an example then just explain./ssg/ Star SaviorA Korean j-rpg style turn-based 3D combat game with a heavy emphasis on an urban fantasy aesthetic, from the same developers of CounterSide. It has systems similar to Uma Musume and Nikke.>DownloadPC - https://store.steampowered.com/app/3609080/StarSavior/Also available on GooglePlay and other stores.>Reroll guide and beginner's faqhttps://tychara.com/StarSavior>X/twitterEN - https://x.com/StarSavior_ENJP - https://x.com/StarSavior_JPKR - https://x.com/StarSavior_KRSite: https://starsavior.com/en>Current eventsCounterside Collab - free Yoo Mina, Hilde gacha at launch and Rosaria gacha in a week from launch (03/19 ~ ??/??)>Current bannersLaunch banner with many units to roll for>RESOURCES:>GUILDS:
>>1976845Tried to list all events and banners. Not sure about the length of yoo mina/hildas banners, I assumed they would switch with Rosaria (and that Rosaria's would end once the event ends).> DAILY CHECK IN- Special Welcome (SSR selection, SSR Trish)- New Savior Party (14 days, SSR Frey, tickets each day)- Lavistar Settlement (21 days, SSR random box)- Global Launch (? days, SSR Roberta)> BANNERS[02.04. - 08.04.] SSR Rate Up - Rosaria[19.03. - 01.04.] SSR Rate Up - Yoo Mina[19.03. - 01.04.] SSR Rate Up - Hilda[19.03. - ??.??.] Special Featured Observation (Post KR/JP launch Saviors/Arcana)> EVENTS[19.03. - 08.04.] Vestige of Corruption I - The Monologue Must End (CounterSide Collaboration)
I think we should also put PVs or gameplay trailers in the OP.
>>1976859What do you think of this one, anon? I didn't want to name other games in the OP >>1976783>>1976863Good idea
>>1976783>>1976864It's better.
>space required 15gb>download size 200mbCan we already download the rest by opening the game?
>>1976877Yeah, I left it to download on my laptop. It's the usual shit where Steam lets you download the launcher but everything else needs to be downloaded there too. Surprised it's "just" 15gb though.
>>1976877>>1976818is the global version downloadable?
>>1976883it's on steam
>>1976847It does, every roll gives you a ticket and you can spend 200 to buy a copy of any character. It's a 1to1 copy of the nikke gacha.
>>1976883It's the same client as the KR/JP version, there will be a maintenance shortly that will patch in English text (game will be playable in 5.5 hours)
>>1976854It did work though, as a f2p I had over 10 pities saved and could max out any character I wanted. If you just login and do your shit the game floods you with rolls.
>>1976861Rosaria banner is only 4 days? That can't be right.
>>1976896>4 daysOne week at least (2nd of april to 8th of april), but I have no idea how long banners for Yoo Mina, Hilda and Rosaria are. The event is 3 weeks, and after two weeks Rosaria's banner launches so I assumed it would switch. The start days should be correct.
>>1976899Oh derp I'm retarded don't know why I thought that was 4 days. Anyways didn't know we would have to wait 2 weeks for the rosaria banner. Guess there's no point in waiting to reroll for her not going to miss out on two weeks. Just have to hope you can save enough rolls between launch and her coming to get her.
status?
>>1976904~5 hours to go
>>1976890ah sweet, I'll download it now then
I'm back, took everyones ideas and combined them. What do you think? /ssg/ Star Savior>Star Savior is a new game by Korean studio BSide, the developers of CounterSide. It's a 3D turn-based fantasy RPG with training gameplay. It features an all-female cast and optional PvP, including guilds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAUnYJX3-Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9N0Y11H9oY>DownloadPC - https://store.steampowered.com/app/3609080/StarSavior/Also available on GooglePlay and other stores.>Reroll guide and beginner's faqhttps://tychara.com/StarSavior>X/twitterEN - https://x.com/StarSavior_ENJP - https://x.com/StarSavior_JPKR - https://x.com/StarSavior_KRSite: https://starsavior.com/en> DAILY CHECK IN- Special Welcome (SSR selection, SSR Trish)- New Savior Party (14 days, SSR Frey, tickets each day)- Lavistar Settlement (21 days, SSR random box)- Global Launch (? days, SSR Roberta)> BANNERS[02.04. - 08.04.] SSR Rate Up - Rosaria[19.03. - 01.04.] SSR Rate Up - Yoo Mina https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_DC9toGwkM[19.03. - 01.04.] SSR Rate Up - Hildehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KCHyaS1p_g[19.03. - ??.??.] Special Featured Observation (Post KR/JP launch Saviors/Arcana)> EVENTS[19.03. - 08.04.] Vestige of Corruption I - The Monologue Must End (CounterSide Collaboration)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja8yRx3zf3A>RESOURCES:>GUILDS:
>>1976911looking good
>>1976911On second thought, maybe lets leave out the banner end dates for the first OP and add them back in when we won't have to guess anymore.store links:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.studiobside.starMainhttps://apps.apple.com/app/id6443597557
>>1976911Nitpicking but>/ssg/ Star Savior>/ssg/ Star Savior Generalotherwise it's good, just need to make a pastebin for future baker in the resource section
>>1976911>/ssg/ Star Savior>/ssg/ Star Savior Generalit's prbly implied but when you copy paste later don't forget the full title
>>1976911>>1976919Looks good to me anon, thanks for taking the time. Just a few nitpicks because I'm an autistic fuck:>/ssg/ Star SaviorMake it>/ssg/ - Star Savior General #1Because here's hoping we won't die anytime soon, oh and remove the extra spaces and caps from some of the greentexts such as> BANNERS
I'll go to sleep it's 2am in yurop, don't let the future thread die on me anons good luck with your pulls tomorrow
>>1976926sleep well babe
>>1976926good night bwo
One more revision with the cleanups and a few minor changes. What does everyone think? Also for the OP pic, if anyone has some fan art from arca that would be great if not I was just going to use some official pick with the cast like this. /ssg/ Star Savior General #1>Star Savior is a new game by Korean studio BSide, the developers of CounterSide. It's a 3D turn-based fantasy RPG with training gameplay. It features an all-female cast, optional PvP and is fully voiced in Korean and Japanese.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAUnYJX3-Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9N0Y11H9oY>Downloadhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3609080/StarSavior/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.studiobside.starMainhttps://apps.apple.com/app/id6443597557>Reroll Guide and Beginner's FAQhttps://tychara.com/StarSavior>X/twitterEN - https://x.com/StarSavior_ENJP - https://x.com/StarSavior_JPKR - https://x.com/StarSavior_KRSite: https://starsavior.com/en>Daily Check In- Special Welcome (SSR selection, SSR Trish)- New Savior Party (14 days, SSR Frey, tickets each day)- Lavistar Settlement (21 days, SSR random box)- Global Launch (? days, SSR Roberta)>Banners[02.04. - ??.??.] SSR Rate Up - Rosaria[19.03. - ??.??.] SSR Rate Up - Yoo Mina https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_DC9toGwkM[19.03. - ??.??.] SSR Rate Up - Hildehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KCHyaS1p_g[19.03. - ??.??.] Special Featured Observation (Post KR/JP launch Saviors/Arcana)>Events[19.03. - 08.04.] Vestige of Corruption I - The Monologue Must End (CounterSide Collaboration)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja8yRx3zf3A>Resources:>Guilds:
>>1976911>optional PvPkek. i see that you are trying not to scare people off, that isn't going to work after they play for a bit and realize character kits are designed from the ground up with pvp balance in mind, and pve is just an afterthought to the devs
>>1976932>if anyone has some fan art from arca that would be greatthere's plenty but the first thread should have an official pic, i'd say.
I read the introduction on Tychara, but I still have 2 questionsWhen you train a character...Is it like Uma where your train your them for a specific challenge, and then after you beat said challenge you have to train a new version of the character for the next one? Or is it more like, let's say Stella Sora, where you "train" a team for a more general purpose and only really have to "retrain" them once a new character comes that would make said team better?The 2nd one is, how often do you have to retrain your characters/teams?
>>1976932bigger version if we want to settle for that
How long till the game is out?
>>1976936We don't know that for sure, and from my experience in nikke it wasn't difficult to build for both. f2p and goldfish will be fine in the top 100 in pvp and spenders can climb higher. The difference in rewards is very little. And there were plenty of characters who were built for pve.
>>19769424 1/2 hours
>>1976932Do we want to mention that the KR/JP servers existed for a while and that GLOBAL and JP/KR run the same build, ie no catch up phase?>>1976936Isn't there only one PvP mode and multiple "end game" PvE modes/raids? Would suck if they only care about PvP then.
Can you not pre download? That's gay.
>>1976809ermm game has pvp so... haha...
>>1976947>Do we want to mention that the KR/JP servers existed for a while and that GLOBAL and JP/KR run the same build, ie no catch up phase?I don't know if that's necessary, most people expect there to be a lag so it's not like it's a deal breaker if there is one. They might ask and we can just say there isn't. But we can add it to the OP if we want I think it was there but people were saying the intro was too long.
>>1976947youtube videos told me that there is normal pvp and then the kind where you set up defense and fight those as bots
>>1976948I think you could earlier, maybe it's not available anymore because the maintenance started? At least it's only 15gb so it's not that bad
hmm on second thought maybe we should go for a eye catching gooner OP after all.pic unrelated.
>>1976954Not a bad idea.
Man that 2.7 rating on google play and the bad reviews on steam look so bad. Can't believe they can't do separate scores for global it's not fair the game is completely different from how it was at launch.
>>1976954That pic is good because it's sexy but also funny. I'm down for it.
>>1976956the game has barely any reviews on steam (20 recent, 500 total or something?), if the game is good enough i think it should be able to flip it (which then helps the other regions too)
I don't want this game to attract niggers who would be deterred by reviews anyways. Numberetards can stay go
>>1976957the pig dooting for launch sells it, eh?
I think we should probably start the general an hour or two before launch. Enough time for people to notice but not enough that we have to make up bullshit to bump it. Don't expect that much activity since this game didn't get noticed like stella sora.
>>1976932found a (korean only) resource that might be nice to add, firefox translate seems to give ok-ish results:https://kanohban.github.io/StarSaviorArcanaDB/
>>1976970Nice find, I'll add it to the OP.
there's a vg thread already
lmao someone already baked a vg thread
just gonna drop some OP pic options for laterpig >>1976954 but higher qualityhttps://litter.catbox.moe/nufhnq.jpgothershttps://litter.catbox.moe/w133v4.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/exrcen.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/f64o9f.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/hwtkp6.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/o99f0s.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/9ej8kg.jpg
ah guess i should've refreshed before posting, WELPnaturally it has basically no information in the OP...
>>1976984Better post in there with your list.
My apologies, guess we should have made it sooner. Well I'll be asleep when the game launches so someone else will have to carry on and make the next thread with a real OP.
Might be better to make the new general and let the current one die. It ain't like it's going to get much traffic.
>>1976989let it die first though, i don't wanna have thread wars on day 1. that said it might actually survive a while, youtube vids did get a decent amount of clicks.we could always just reply to the current OP with what we prepared. not ideal but it's something and still likely to be seen on the first 10 posts.
>>1976991It's on page 6, just leave it be and hopefully it dies.
>>1976993alrighty
Game is UP
>>1977001YOU BAITED ME BITCH
>>1977001wait, already?
>>1977004more stuff to download but game won’t be up for a while
>>1977001well at least i got to download 11GB of patch but yeah still under maintenance
>>1977006Ah. Well might as well download.
You guys planning on rerolling or just taking what the game gives you. I'll probably just take what it gives me. I might reroll on w.e. beginner banner they have but we'll see what I get.
>>1977011I never reroll, don't have the patience for it. Also we're getting a selector
>>1977011I say I wont reroll but if I get the worst luck I might
>>1977011I'm setting up the reroll emulator in case i get an absolutely dogshit starter roll.But as soon as i get someone i like im linking my account and then i start spending money.
>>1977011we get so much free shit that it should be impossible for me not to get who i want but if it happens i reroll
How are we rerolling on steam?Emu it until we get something good and link?or can you guest account on steam?
>>1977011Since we're getting so many freebies, I'm going for dupes of the character I want.
i hope the game is fun, ive played and dropped nearly every mainstream gacha at this point
>>1977011Rerolling for Ashera Waltz just so I can pick up her dupe from something else laterIf I get tired of rerolling, I'll stop at someone I like or someone high tier. Whichever comes first.
>>1977018EmulatorGuest accountJust Logout if you get shit. Link it to steam if you get something good.
>>1977023Alright, thought so
>>1977021Try outerplane>>1977011I'm rerolling
Wait? There's a collab on release?
>>1977027with their previous game, yes. keep in mind the game was released in december in korea/japan, and we're jumping ahead to the same point they are
>>1977027yes thats the whole point
>>1977018never link on steam firsttons of mobile games usually link the first account and won't let you unlink afterwardsalways do emulator or real phone first
How to reroll:>Boot up the game on Emulator>Click Guest Login>Play the game until you can roll>Roll everything on Asherah Waltz>Get 1 (preferably 4) Asherah Waltz>If you didn't get shit>Log Out>Close the game>Repeat from Step 1
its a shame the release is today, I have 1 day to play it cuz tomorrow is crimson desert
>>1977036i dunno man, getting 4 of the same cosmic character is insane
>>1977036Mmm no? I'm rolling for Hilde.
>>1977038That's the fun part
>>1977040haha, i’ll be happy if i can get just one dupe. heard that’s enough to make her op.
>>1977037Crimson desert is a single player game, it's not going anywhere. Don't be a chode.
>>1977037im in no rush for Crimson Desert.Shit is like 200 hours to explore everything. i will just chill doing my dailies and stuff here first and then hop on there.
>>1977030So we're betting on the collab characters being OP?
>>1977036I assume if you get 3 copies you just take that, what about 2?
>>1977036>4 dupes of the same characterIs she really that dominant?
man, server goes up middle of the night. i can't nolife it at that timeMAN
>>1977047You never really know, my guess is Rosaria will be for sure since every version of her was strong in CS. Hild and Mina are another matter, hild was a basic bitch tank that was useful but never really had the spotlight. Some versions of Mina were great others were fodder. Will have to wait and see.
>>1977048She spikes at 1 dupe and at 3 dupes. 2 is good since you can farm the last dupe later i believe.But i wouldn't go so hard since the game balance keeps changing and you really don't need to tryhard so much so early since you will get step on by whales on pvp anyways.
>>1977036>reroling for 4 fucking dupes now this is topkekokay but how long does it take to get to the reroll point?
>>1977048If you manage to get even a single dupe of a light/dark character you are extremely lucky. I doubt many will. >>1977054It was brutal at launch, part of why the koreans rioted. Heard it's super fast now like 5 minutes.
what is the most esportkek rerolli'll probably reroll a little but end up buying an account from some SEAnigger
>>1977054heard it’s about 7 minutes minimum
>>1977051Yeah, bedtime is way more valuable since you'll always have time to rush the earlygame in the morning
Some preliminary info about collab characters from patch notes.
The shit thread is almost dead I'm going to prep the real one with the latest OP we have if anyone wants anything added to it now is the time to say something.
>>1977053>>1977055alright I will try for at least 2 until I give in
yoom model looks good and hilds looks off from the preview although last time i played cs was like 3 years ago
>>1977060Make Yoo Mina the Op pic
>>1977066we already have an op pic bwo
>>1977060The latest revision looks really good, nothing to add rn
>>1976932Korean bro's sheet.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W1nl3zfBdrgNCjLCVt7lBn0UzuwPLVnF2JkC4iamRic/edit?gid=1473713484#gid=1473713484
Do I need to pre-reg if I intend to play on PC only or are the pre-reg milestone rewards sent to all players?
>>1977069Too late bred is baked will have to add it to the next one. I won't be awake probably so someone else will have to make the next thread. Lets move over and keep it alive. >>560810347>>560810347>>560810347
>>1977070PreReg is a meme.It ALWAYS gets sent to everyone.
>>1977071>>>/vg/560810347>>>/vg/560810347>>>/vg/560810347bro
>>1977073Thanks, I don't really recall the last time pre-registering mattered but I wanted to ask just in case.
>>1977074Derp, I forget how to cross board link.
>>1977076It sort of mattered for limbus company, everyone got the rewards but we didn't get all of the rewards I think? The counter was real.
I'm a bit slow on the uptake but can someone explain to me the events of the prologue? It seems I got erased from existence halfway through but time looped?
Is this good? I actually want that green slut tho. Or that loli tsundere.
>>1978005extremely good
