New Umamusume clone just dropped
>>1845510Instead of horse races, you raise stats to fight HSR battles
>no global releaseRIP
>no globo releasegood>studiobsidegrim
>>1845512There's no four niggas in a row? Uh?
>>1845510What? It's an Umamusume clone? I was hoping it's AT LEAST a Shart Rail clone.
>>1845588Not really. Gameplay is pretty much turn based. But there's a unit training aspect to the game. Kinda like Fire Emblem Three Houses but turn based instead of SRPG.
>>1845588It's both and a bit more.A terrible chimera that tried to combine several games.
>>1845510Wait a minute, this is by that same company that made CounterSide isn't it? Ain't touching another piece of their shit ever again after how much they fucked up with CS.
>>1845578Yeah it's 3 niggas in a row, 2 of which you bring with your trainee, riveting gameplay right here
>>1845510>>1845588Gameplay: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2575832035?t=03h13m09s
That sounds like a good idea for a roguelike, but I imagine this is just a normal game.
>>1845512>Fighting UmaHey that could be co->HSR battlesFucking 0/10If they wanted to make uma but fighting they should be making them actually fight like what Virtual Circle's trying to dohttps://youtu.be/lgfx_0c8874?si=Y4xxqdR8p89c41BF
>>1846721Star savior is not comparable to Uma in general. Also it's clearly trying to be optimized for mobile like HSR since it wants to take a chunk in HSR's jp sales (it wont obviously).
>>1845510I'd try it if it wasn't PVP slop
>>1846721>Virtual circlesIs this ML/haremge
>>1846952All I know is apparently every character is based off some actual chink vtuber. Obviously means no men because>>>male vtubers. Think you can also infer how far it'll go off of thatI'm really hoping someone else steals the concept and uses it with OCs
>>1846952MC was referred as he in one of the teaser but who knows
>>1845532This, i'm expecting shitty balance because they prioritise pvp and neglecting pve like they do on counterside
>>1848863>shitty balance between PVP and PVE>constantly powercreep OP characters follow with nerf>shitty gear system>PVP focus endgame while PVE is just more mindless gear grinding so you can PVP harder>now throw in Uma training loops to min max your characters
You don't need to samefag, shitposter bro. No one knows or care about bside or some shit. They'll still try that game regardless.
really now who in their right mind would even take pvp in non competitive online games seriously when they all suck ass
>>1845510I liked CS story so I will be giving this a try.
>>1849302It even has the Administrator, so it's connected to Counterside.
>>1849287Thankfully It's not that heavyhttps://youtu.be/-ueOO8LrZZoThis game focused on story and interaction between characters(as they should). Though sadly this game turn based gameplay is just bad.
>>1846721Thanks for sharing, i missed the news about this.
>>1849354>Though sadly this game turn based gameplay is just badIt's good actually, sorry zoom zoom not everything is going to cater to your adhd.
>>1852594You're just projecting, retard. I never said that turn-based gameplay is bad. I just said that this one in particular is bad. Even Final Fantasy 1 turn-based gameplay is better than this.
>>1852893>Real games have better gameplayYeah no shit. How retards never fail to bitch at games thats not even well regarded for pure gameplay reasons is beyond me. And they are actually better having auto mode for it than none at all.
>It's anti-gacha shitposter
none of the mobile waifu training slop can ever compete with the GOAT
>>1845510This shit is like two years too late, nobody is going to dump their main gacha games to play it.>No simultaneous releaseKWAB, trying to go for 0/2 but from the starting gate this time.
>>1852893>this one in particular is badIt isn't, you are basing this off of nothing.
>>1853017I compared it with HSR, the mediocre turn based and this game is lower.Now, show me your CBT invitation before you talk about something that you haven't experience yet.
>>1853034It's better than star rail. I've been following bside for years, you don't know shit. They are going to fuck the game up because bside fucks everything up but the gameplay mechanics aren't going to be why. But I'm happy you found another outlet for your normalfag rage lil mihoyo buddy.
>>1853042>No CBT invitation Yeah, you know nothing. Here's your last (you).
>>1853062Your coping will be fun to see, don't say I didn't warn you. Every dollar spent on bside is a dollar flushed down the toilet. ;)
Does this give out any kind of exclusive rewards for people that played the beta, I always hate when they do that shit
>>1853034The whole generic gang is here!
>>1867340Not any more generic than uma musume and with actual gameplay so I am willing to give it a try. Character designs are one of the most easy things to improve post launch
>>1845512Sounds like it'll be just like CZN, which is HSR with an extra layer of RNG grind.
>coming out in a few days>zero hypeDOA
>>1886502>no global release dateI wonder why…
>>1886503I will never forgive dubfags.
>>1886537We getting dubs?
>>1886537Someone should tell their marketing team what a waste of resources that is.
>>1886603That's the official reason it was delayed, they didn't start working on the dub soon enough.
>>1886614that’s retarded. just release the game and add it in an update later.
>>1886622We tried to tell them that but they don't understand english so I doubt the message got through.
>>1886614Got link of the announcement?
>>1886627No, just remember someone linking an arca post a while back saying that was the reason. Who knows, point is we lost.
>>1886628Eh, they troll all the time so i'll take it with a grain of salt.There'll be livestream soon so we might get some info
>>1886628You shouldn't say "official" then. The likely reason is they're accommodating other languages than English, and that's the reason why it's taking so long. I just hope it releases within this year.
news on global launch and pre-registration on next week’s stream. lowering pull cost is nice, would be funny if stella sora shitstorm was what made them lower it.
>>1887412>stella sora>He fell for the manufactured dramabait from obvious free2poorsIts got enough freebies to pull pities as much as the average gacha if youre not an impulsefag
>>1887414i didn’t had a problem with the gacha in stella sora, stopped playing because there wasn’t enough to do besides spam ascension and hoping rng is on my side.
>>1887414>Its got enough freebies to pull pities as much as the average gachaLol. Lmao even. Even Genshin is more generous than SS.
>>1887435Thats an over exaggeration right? Genshit doesnt even have any notable freebies, let alone currency that lets you respect your time
>>1887412>stella soraPeople wouldn't be mad if it's the intended amount.
I simply won't trust anyone who claim x gacha is generous until the honeymoon phase is over and you stop getting frontload rewards from campaign and level up bonus. That's when the real game begins.
when is this up hyungskis?
>>1887435Genshin only works because USUALLY it's one banner per 6 weeks. Even then it's extremely aggressive at anti shill, where if you don't have dev intended stuff you will really fucking suffer. So 60 pulls per patch ain't enough to get you everything regardless.Credit where credit is due: Stella Sora's Earth team (0 limited chars) can deal with anything.. though it might've not been intended. But game is young. Genshin wasn't this shit early on either.If Stella Sora keeps a 3 weeks per banner schedule, around 60 pulls/month is the bare mininum.
i thought this is Uma ripoff but its actually HSR?
>>1887528it's hsr combat with uma progression system
>>1887515Tomorrow for gooks, who knows for the rest of the world. bside took a year to bring counterside global.
>>1886614They delayed the fucking game and essentially killed its chance to be relevant in the west trying to...appeal to the west? What the fuck?
>>1887755Bside isn't known for being smart. Now watch them cut the dub support after 6 months.
>>1887515we’ll find out next week
>can't find it on third-party app storesEh?
>>1887755They've run two maintenances during the peak day one JP and KR hours, currently a 3 hour maintenance. Bside shooting themselves in the foot once again.>>1888255I managed to get find it on taptap, but the game doesn't let you in unless it's downloaded from google play.
>>1888385Are you using phone? What kind of phone are you using? Because you need to get ready for the most unoptimized game experience you'll ever get.Another note, there's a bug with character Trish where she'll be automatically converted to shard when you get her in gacha.
>>1849311Grim I don't want to play counter side again just to understand the story. Honkai keep throwing dumb references of their old game as well instead of being something on their own.
>>1887497The important thing is not to have that MANY limited characters. Something Counter:Side is known from.
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.studiobside.starMainthe account I made with a fake japanese address to save money on top-ups made google believe I'm japanese kek
>>1888397>Grim I don't want to play counter side again just to understand the storyThey said they are making it so you don't have to have played Counterside, whatever you need to know will be explained in SS.
So I actually wonder what they'll do for global considering everywhere else got it today. Releasing it like within a month of Asia launch sounds dumb, are they just gonna hyper accelerate for a month to get global caught up? On the flip side I don't think anyone will really care about the game anymore if it releases into next year, unless it ends up being really good or something.
>>1889082They will make it catch up in a few months. It's no biggie. Also Global releasing later is not a dealbreaker as you might think since it's another Big Event that people will look up to that they can capitalize on and promote the game again for more visibility.Specially since they will likely be sponsoring a bunch of big name Vtubers and stuff and ride on the big Umamusume community that grew on the west.
>>1889082>are they just gonna hyper accelerate for a month to get global caught up?100% they'll do that. I think they'll release it in January 2026 at most.>On the flip side I don't think anyone will really care about the game anymore if it releases into next year unless it ends up being really good or something.Nah. This is just plain wrong. The thing about the late release date is that they’re most likely to speed up the late server time and risk getting them shafted.
40 bucks for a ten pull is yikes
>>1889641Yeah, it’s sitting at a 2.0 on app store and complaints are about how expensive pulls are, requiring dupes to break level cap, too much loading, unnecessary special effects when interacting with menus that lags the game, and nothing special about gameplay.
>>1889648You need dupes to unlock the Live 2D which is fucking ridiculous.
so this is DOA?
>>1890427Uninformed bro...>>1890447So true, xis
Notice Regarding Future Improvement Plans for Star SaviorDear Captains, thank you for always playing SSThis is Ryu Geumtae, Executive Producer of Star Savior.First of all, regardless of the reason, I would like to deeply apologize as the person in charge of this project for failing to deliver sufficient enjoyment and satisfaction to you.As mentioned in our previous apology notice, the entire development team and I are currently making large-scale improvements across the entire game based on feedback received from our Captains.Although improvement efforts will continue, I would like to share the currently confirmed changes as early as possible through this developer note.1. Increase in Bonus for Sacred Light Stone ProductsThe amount of Sacred Light Stones in paid bundles was calculated based on standard summons and new character pick-up packs planned for future updates.However, excessively high rates were applied during the adjustment process, resulting in prices that felt overpriced and did not meet expectations.We take full responsibility and will revise the values as follows:● Current: Highest-tier pack 4,800 + 1,300 = 6,100 Stones● After Change: Highest-tier pack 4,800 + 2,800 = 7,600 StonesLower-priced packs will also receive increased bonus amounts.Players who have already purchased these packs will receive the difference in Stones.Further details will be announced separately.2. Changes to Arcpoints & Extra Moment AcquisitionArk Points and Extra Moments were designed to convey the appeal of each Liberator through special high-quality interactions.However, due to high difficulty, it has instead led to disappointment.To correct this mistake, acquisition conditions will change as follows:● Before: ○ Unlock viewing/lobby placement after 3 limit breaks of the same Savior● After: ○ Viewing unlocked at Affinity Lv. 10 ○ Lobby placement remains 3 limit breaksUnlocked content will be viewable anytime from a dedicated menu.
>>18904533. Lobby Placement for Main Story & Journey IllustrationsPlayers have requested the ability to collect and display story illustrations.We apologize for not providing this sooner.We will enable lobby placement for illustrations based on story completion and character affinity.4. Account Reset Policy ChangesPreviously, account resets were restricted for server management and anti-abuse reasons.However, this caused major inconvenience.Therefore:● Reset time reduced:~14 days ~5 minutes5. Nickname Policy ChangesNicknames were required to be unique due to global PvP design, but this reduced player freedom and increased reroll friction.Changes:● Nickname changes will use a Nickname Change Ticket● Stones previously spent on name changes will be fully refunded● All accounts receive one free ticket● Duplicate nicknames allowed6. Tutorial Policy ChangesThe current tutorial is too long and affects pacing.Changes:● Simplified structure● Skip feature available after conditions are met7. Early Game Progression RedesignFocus shifted too much toward idle mechanics instead of story and characters.To restore narrative immersion:● Guide players to Main Story EP0 after Journey tutorial● Unlock Operations after EP1● Relax story unlock conditions● Add prompts to encourage story viewing● Provide natural introduction to Journey content on first play8. Reduced Requirements for Liberator IconsUnlock conditions remain too strict even after earlier adjustments.Changes:● Before: Affinity Lv. 30● After: Affinity Lv. 5All players will also receive materials required to reach Affinity Lv. 30.9. Incorrect Material Costs for R-Rank ArcanaWe confirmed incorrect upgrade costs for Moonlight Water and Gold.Fixes:● Correct required values● Refund excess materials spent
>>189045410. Battle Experience ImprovementsPlayers feel combat lacks strategic depth.Planned adjustments:● Nova Burst reduced cooldown + increased damage● Reduce excessive cooldowns for certain liberators● Various new mechanics to increase strategy● Rework buffs/debuffs● Strengthen Break Skills (reduced cooldown, stronger gimmicks, PvE-exclusive effects)More details will be provided in patch notes.11. Shortcut Menu ImprovementsMenu layout is confusing and will be reorganized for better usability in an upcoming update.[Implementation Schedule]Changes will be applied starting this week through patch updates.New feature additions may take longer, and updates become difficult mid-December, but we aim to apply all changes by January.This is not the final iteration—we will continue improvements based on your feedback.Thank you for continuing to support Star Saver despite the inconvenience.Ryu GeumtaeExecutive Producer, Star Savior
Maybe it's a good thing global is releasing later than jp/kr.
>>1890460Yeah, so we now know to never play this shit and ignore any and all news about it, and also to avoid anything done by this studio.
>>1890453>Lobby placement remains 3 limit breaksSo you still have to mega whale to be able to put the character you like in the lobby screen, what a shit show. Imagine saving currency to roll a character you were looking forward to, spending 200 rolls, and not being able to set it as a secretary. Is there even another gacha that does this?>>1890455>Battle Experience ImprovementsSo instead of actually making the gameplay feel good, they instead buffed every character to make the gameplay feel easy instead. Not only that, they introduced "PvE-exclusive effects", so their focus is still going to be PvP, as expected of a KR dev.Imagine actually playing this shit for more than a couple of days and being hopeful that the dev will make the game good, despite how counterside turned out.
>>1890677Counterside wasn't your first hint?
>>1890677After seeing firsthand how they fucked up Cside I expected nothing and was still disappointed.
>>1890814>Copied from popular games, dumbed down everything, added more paywall with worse gacha rate>flopped.As expected of Bside.
Now the cartel will start killing Bside employees for the loans they've taken for SS.
>>1845604Same. Fuck them for ruining a game I actually loved.
>>1887478Stella Sora isn't generous but it's way better than Genshin if you are f2p, I'm f2p, I have every limited character so far and I still have 55k gems, the rate for SSR characters is way higher in SS and there's a Spark at 120 that doesn't count towards the 100% limited character pity at 160.
>>1891129it's already miles better than any hoyoslop by virtue of not taking much time to invest into. currency economy doesnt really bring in the full picture of how shitty the game actually is
>trusting bsideCome on now. How many times did you guys need to learn this lesson?
>>1891288i just want a decent looking harem game that isnt flopping and thriving and this game blew it away, just how hard is that to ask
>>1891290Apparently asking them to give up chasing the female audience causes devs to think they can charge us double. And also cut corners on game design.
>No Naielle expyDOA
>>1891082>>1891082I honestly wanted to believe that they could learn their lesson after they fired the mongoloid PD that fucked up the Origin update but it seems everyone in that company suffers from terminal retardation. A shame, the game had top of the line characters even to this day
>>1891388>fired the mongoloid PD that fucked up the Origin updateSeeing how SS turned out, 99% chance he got "honorable demotion" and was put in charge of SS.
>>1891403>SSDamn, I am going to keep messing up between this and Stella Sora.
SSR rate from 2.5% to 4%Rateup now 2% instead of 1%and a bunch of other stuff announced. They also made rerolling basically instant
>>1891499Too late lmao
>>1891499Definitely much better but isn't the guaranteed pity at 200 pulls? That's still way too high. A guaranteed copy at 100 rolls should be the bare minimum for a game demanding dupes.
>>1891522It works fine in nikke, if they give the same amount of rolls as that game gets you will get showered in dupes without much effort.
>>1891616Acquisition is fine but the big difference are skills being dupe locked while Nikke doesn't.
Wasn't there supposed to be some stream with global launch info? What happened to that?
>>1891956
>>1892022>marchglobal people will forget about this because of endfield.
>>1892023>forgetMost won't even be aware of its existence, Bside has no money for marketing.
>>18920224 months... what I thought it would just be a few weeks. Fuck sake
Koreans are on board with the new changes now.It's going to end up being a case of KR and JP being the beta test for global as usual.
Still not on board with the lack of voice acting when other titles with a lower budget do have them. Feels like a sign of cheapening out a product
>>1892023No one cares for shitnights or shitfield(rebooted development: The game)
>>1892214Are gooks really alright with having to pull dupes for a fucking lobby scene? I thought it was the nips that had bottom of the barrel standards
>>1892496people were fine with it in nikke, not surprising they’ll be okay with it in star savior
>>1892498You obviously never played nikke.
>>1892511i haven’t played it in a year and a half, but i remember dupes unlocking burst animation for lobby screens
>>1892496Do you live in some alternate reality where Korean isn't the home of p2w shit mechanics?
>>1892522I live in the reality where the previous game made by these devs tried none of that garbage, not even the original Origin update tried to be this scummy
>>1892512Well what I meant was I don't think anyone cared about those screens. They were way worse than the basic character. Except for a few pilgrims most were just static images with a single line of dialog. I never used any of them. The ones in SS are more like blue archive lobby screens. Which of course are given out for free. Bside is really going max jew this time. The problem is that only works if the game itself is good enough, they have shit gameplay and still think they can screw the customer.
https://x.com/StarSavior_EN/status/1991060961617457375Was this global announcement stream the KR or JP stream earlier, or will there be a dedicated stream for us. If not then holy fuck this company sucks at marketing.
>>1892590They seem to assume that anyone who even has a single lick of interest in this game would already follow all their KR/JP twitter and youtube accounts, so no need to spend extra money for marketing.
Didn't start on day one because I (mistakenly) hoped that the global release date would not be far off.But they revealed that global launch is 3-4 months from now.Is it too late to start now?also, I find it a bit weird that they not only don't do simultaneous release for KR/JP server and Global server in the big 2025 but also did not announce the release date on global account
>>1892867The first few days were a massive disaster with bugs, emergency maint, shitty rate, no reroll and so on. If anything it's better to start now after they fixed most of the problem above.
>>1892867Yes. It's too late. You missed one SSR selector(including cosmic) if you start it now.
>>1892867Global is an afterthought, the revenue of the west is usually 25% of the total (with JP/KR/CN being a distribution of 20 to 30% each). Its clear they aren't confident that the game is going to do well in the west, or they don't think its going to be worth the investment, better to put all their efforts on the local version and when they have some extra time to spare after stabilizing they can do global.
>>1892953That's not true for all games and it's certainly not true for bside. Global made up a huge portion of cs profit. JP is market that has never mattered.
>>1893031That was because the whole publisher and server change from Nexon to Bside then global with JP server. Any game went through that shit will never recover.
do we know Omega's rarity? one of the few units from this kusoge that caught my eye
>>1892867>release 3-4 months from now>has to compete with KaleidoriderThose fucking morons..
A heterosexual man with functioning brain would simply play both.
>>1894577Source for that Kaleidorider release date, tranny?
Why is there no global release yet? Do I really have to wait another year for this?
>>1894950The devs don't want your retarded ass money, you can't even do a google search
>>1895174Kek. He doesn't even read this thread.
Is the game fixed yet? Should I just wait 3 months for global? Will they even address the problems with JP for the new server? I have no idea about this company
Does the pity points in the limited banners carry over like in Nikke?
>>1895439I think the main problems are gameplay and optimization. Honestly I'm not expecting much from Korean for optimization issue and it's really hard to make something from broken parts than just create new thing altogether, so I don't think the gameplay can be "good" either. At least they acknowledge it though. ZZZ devs still won't acknowledge that they're making a boring button mashing game.>>1895454Yes. But be careful about Cosmic characters. They're usually work with different rules.
>>1895501>Yes. But be careful about Cosmic characters. They're usually work with different rules.What do you mean? If the banner is a cosmic character then the pity wouldn't carry over? So I guess it's safe for me not to use the pity I got in the bunny girl banners?
>>1895501>Mihoyo>ever admit they are doing something wrong.WWIII would happen before that.
>>1895504I think you know better than me about this. How does Nikke pilgrim banner works? Is normal banner pity can be used in pilgrim banner? Star Savior copy Nikke banner system to a T. So it should be the same. Though I think you should still only use your gacha currency in Cosmic banner.
>>1895501I already like the bits of the game I see from clips, I just didn't start immediately because apparently it was Day 1 WuWa/ToF level unplayable, which gets even worse since I'm on Android. As long as it's>HSR but all womenI'm sold. So, is it?
>>1895514Yeah I thought it was similar to NIkke but I can't be too sure. If it's exactly like Nikke then I guess I'm safe. Thanks bro.
>>1895522>So, is it?Sadly, nope. It's worse. They've got great animation, but sadly the battle system sucks. The only limitation we have is cooldown and it's too fucking long. So you'll always want to use your Ulti then Skill, then forced to use Normal attack for at least 3 turns(non maxed skill will forced you to use it for 5 turns instead). They've acknowledge it and said that they will fix it, but I doubt it. On the other hand, I think the story and journey story is better.TLDR; if you don't mind auto battler tier gameplay, then it's a good game.>>1895528Ur welcome. Unfortunately(or fortunately for us) they're flopping and I don't think they'll do another Korean moment. So I expect they won't stray from Nikke gacha system.
https://x.com/StarSavior_JP/status/1995442478988611591I think they'll pick the "generous and trust" route from now on. I just hope that they don't shaft Global, because it'll 100% make them dead in Global. Oh and also I hope that they'll fix every problem(app optimization and gameplay related) before releasing Global server, so that we'll be glad that this game release late so that we don't need to "beta test" it.
>>1895549So they were able to reach google play rank 1 after all. That's surprising after all the fuckups at launch.
>>1895550Every game, even slop, gets to rank 1 during their first month, its nothing special.>>1895549They are probably going to "fix" the currency problems, but theres no way they fix the gameplay, its just a bunch of different systems copied from other games thrown together without any cohesion or thought put into why they work
How many lolis?
Is this game in the gacha pvp memechart?
>>1895765No one has shitposted about it yet so I guess it's not included there for now.
>>1895765Maybe when it gets global server, this game doesn't generate enough shitposts and drama to catch their attention.
Using konpeito (as the nips call it) as a way to time-gate progression is a bit annoying since you get so little of them compared to other upgrading resourcesMost features are from other (mostly) gook games so if you have played them before, it's pretty easy to figure it outNot that I blame them of course. while some retards might say it's plagiarism, I think it's better that it's somewhat similar to other popular games since it helps the players adapt to the game faster rather than learning everything from zero. It's like how most gacha have similar UI placements (though I don't know if it's fair to compare UI to gameplay)I still think adding mini-uma gameplay is an... "interesting" choice
>>1895919Copied other games? Everyone do that nowadays so I don't think it's the real issue here. But they simplified everything so they can cram as many different systems as possible and the game ended up just being an uninspired patchwork of various popular games in the market. This is why people say the gameplay is just boring busywork with nothing stands out.
>>1895929>they simplified everything so they can cram as many different systems as possibleyeah, I see it now that you said it.It tried to be too many things that it just end up feeling overwhelmingI think the game would've been more enjoyable if they took out mini-umaI really don't get why it's theregear substats autism is here too but I suppose it's expected from a gook gacha
>>1895934I am sure the uma training system was something that got added later during the game development, since the early PVs for the game didn't show any glimpse of it. At first it was probably planned to be another HSR with mix gender cast (there was a twink in the reveal PVs) but when the game was officially named Star Savior they removed that guy and showed the training system as part of the new gameplay system, they even proudly claimed that "we also have umamusume/gakumas at home" in the interview, so yeah some dumbfuck greenlit that idea and changed the game direction during its development.
>>1895935That shota(?) was turned into Bell, I think.It was a good decision imho.Should've stayed an HSR clone, though
>>1895938It is, it's just also a nikke clone, and an uma clone, and an epic seven clone. They took the worst parts of each of those games and combined it into one super shit game. Really it's kind of genius if you think about it from a certain point of view. Bside has a reputation to maintain you know.
>>1895963>Bside>reputationI can see their ultimate PVPslop endgame with constant powercreep and hours you have to spend in the training sim every time they drop a new one to perfect their stats. God bless if they even remember to update PVE content.
>>1895986>God bless if they even remember to update PVE content.that was the best part of the apology stream, they said there were going to "give special pve buffs to make progression faster", meaning they design units with pvp in mind and pve is an afterthought if thatI can't believe anyone would be retarded enough to be exited for the global version
>>1895765what the other 2 Anons said but basically no one cares about the game enough in the West to even want to memepost itStill waiting for global tho, played a week of JP but can't get into it knowing I'll restart
>>1896201Why do you want trogdolytes to notice this game? I don't want any HSR faggots to know that this game even exists.
>>1897030>Why do you want trogdolytes to notice this game? I don't. I was just answering the other Anon as to why this isn't on the memechart
>>1897030it's not even known in its own genre, that says much about how much people care about the game
>>1897474Consider Rememento, which is another HSR/Epic 7 clone, already announced soft EOS, I doubt this game is going fare better. Dragging out Global release is going to push their shit in even further.
arca whale gets a 6k usd refund:https://arca.live/b/starsavior/155724045KR on mass refund mode. JP cord feedback (translated):Dear Management Team Member,Today, Brown Dust 2 and Epic Seven announced their upcoming update plans. Both plans clearly address the player's perspective, including creating new gameplay, reducing player workloads, and increasing benefits.This contrasts sharply with the hollow, empty "update plan" announced by your company's producer a few days ago.Whether a game is loved by players depends, first, on understanding its strengths and making the most of them. Second, on providing good "service" to players, identifying their pain points, and building a foundation for long-term management.Your management team has not achieved even one of these two fundamentals.Regarding your company's strengths:Do you think that casually assembling various game systems is a "strength"? No. You yourself should know this.
>>1897648Currently, your only strength is your art (character design). That's why they're clinging so desperately to the most critical aspect from players: "Home Anime can only be unlocked through a complete breakthrough." They're afraid that changing it would mean they'd no longer be able to make money.From start to finish, you've never once considered how to improve the game, create new strengths, or extend its usefulness. All I can sense is your mindset: "Make as much money as possible now, while the novelty is still fresh in players' minds, and then fade away quickly."Regarding player complaints (pain points),You're well aware of this, too. How many streamers and video creators have pointed out that your training system and the RTA mode are starkly inconsistent?Why is it that character passive skills can only be strengthened by randomly selecting multiple characters?This is the biggest contradiction in a game that includes an RTA mode. You're well aware of it, too. Similarly, I'm aware that your gameplay sucks, and understand that your only way to make a profit is by relying on pay-to-win elements like this.Let's compare them.Compared to Epic Seven, your equipment system and RTA balance are crap.Compared to Uma Musume, your training system is extremely stale and boring.Compared to Nikke and Brown Dust 2, your employee benefits are a world apart.While character design is your only strength, it's not unique enough to overwhelm your competitors.
>>1897651You rip off everything and make everything even more boring. I've played all of these games and paid for each one. However, the pressure to pay for them all combined doesn't compare to this one game.Now, to the core issue. Why on earth should I play Star Savior?Furthermore, is there any other game at this point that offers four featured summons (UP gacha) right after launching service and only distributes a small number of summon tickets? Do you think that distributing a few character fragments amounts to "giving a character as a gift"?Let me be frank with you. From the start, your company never gave the slightest thought to making a good game or achieving stable profits over the long term. You simply created a product haphazardly, "copied" systems that other companies were making money from, crammed everything into one, and aimed to make a quick buck during the temporary frenzy at the start of service, without caring what happened to the game after that - this is your company's true objective.So, if you continue to remain silent, make excuses, and gloss over all your "improvements" with minor details that are irrelevant to the core mechanics, namely:Lowering the hurdle for unlocking home animeAbolishing the passive skill unlock system that relies on character breakthroughs, or changing it to an easier methodOptimizing the "Uma Musume"-style training and support card system, which have been endlessly criticized by players-- Without making any changes to these, you'll just keep as many players as possible hooked for the short term with small perks, squeeze as much out of them as quickly as possible, and then fade from player memory like Counter: Side. If you truly want this game to be a success, first optimize the game's core mechanics in a way that alleviates the pain points that players are pointing out.Otherwise, you'll soon be reduced to a stray dog on the side of the road.
>>1897652I mean praising Nikke while also complaining that you need to MLB to get the lobby screen in Star Savior is peak hypocrisy since Nikke does the same thing. Kek
>>1897648wonder what they devs are gonna doI doubt it's easy to completely overhaul the gameplay especially when it's after launch and they only managed to fix a couple of problemsDid they really think that gluing together features that aren't compatible with each other while also downgrading them will somehow make the game work?
>>1897768Games with no solid direction and just rely on feature bloat, trying to do many things at once are doomed to fail. Doesn't help that they seem to think they can survive in the current market with just a handful of whales grinding PVP like meth addicts in the same way as CS.Either they take a bold move and shutdown the game to overhaul it or just accept its fate and continue to milk those suckers who still stick to the game for all it's worth.
>>1897801>shutdown the game to overhaul itthe global release is around march next year so if they're quick about it, they could announce a shutdown after the current ended to remove and improve features and re-release it alongside the global servercan't say much about other features but the uma training shit needs to goit's a waste to throw away the animations and CGs but it has to goarcana can be reworked into equipment like FGO's craft essence insteadI hate the gear substats autism too but I doubt they will throw that one away so it is what it is
>>1897812This is by far one of the most moronic take I've read. Journey is literally their most likeable feature. You should just shut your mouth and spare the world from hearing your retarded take.
The retard here really like to spout some shit. 70% reason why this game failed is because optimization and these monkeys don't even say that.
>>1897826>Journey is literally their most likeable featuresays nobody ever
>>1897828I had a bad launch because the rerollers can't reroll. Literally 90% of the 1* reviews in google back during the first days was they can't reroll. They loosened the reroll restriction and increased the SSR rates but they still lost a lot of hype during the first week.
>>1897878Never understood that mentality.
>>1897831If you're retarded and ignorance, then yeah.>>1897878That's still not the core issue. If it's true, then all hoyoverse games will be dead by now.The main issue is still optimization. MH Wilds and CP2077 got hit by this problem and flopped. To make matter worse, they can't release the steam/pc version simultaneously, so everyone(including the one with gaming phone) will still feel the lag.The second most important issues is gameplay. The gameplay is just boring and braindead. Now, it won't be that big of a problem because the skill animation is good and you can leave it on auto. But because the stupid optimization, you can't even enjoy it.Because of these problems, people become critical and nitpick everything.
>>1897886It's the most basic QOL you can give new players. Everyone knows people are going to be rerolling, it's not some industry secret.
KR mass refunds and mass 1* review bombs continuing
>>1897754It doesn't matter in nikke because the unlocks are worse than the default models. And dupes only give a tiny amount of stats not game changing abilities.
>>1897960It's just retardation. Open the game and stick with what you got. There's no need to foster poorfag mentality.
What makes me wonder is that why nobody complained this much during cbt
>>1898197You can believe whatever you want little bro, but the fact of the mater is that rerolling is a HUGE part of the fun asian players and players simply aren't going to stick with the game if it doesn't let them have their fun (rerolling until they get the unit they want)
>>1898209Everyone was coping by claiming "they are going to adjust it for release!", at the time people thought the game could be fixed simply by moving some numbers around.This isn't uncommon for betas, OP stuff and glitches are sometimes found months after release.
I actually like the game so it's too bad that only JP can help them since they're not as vindictive. At this point KR is actively trying to get it to shut down for some reason and there's no way this game will amount to much in Global.
I'll still try it if it ever comes to global on PC
Western MLbros will save this game
>>1898641>it's too bad that only JP can help them since they're not as vindictive. Sadly they earn much more from KR and that's saying much(they're flopping in JP)>At this point KR is actively trying to get it to shut down for some reasonI agree about this. Though on the other hand, we got many freebies and improvement because of this reason.I've said it and I'll say it again that the major problem of this game is with their optimization, but KR become too critical and nitpick everything.>there's no way this game will amount to much in Global.With how much they made, I don't think global will be that insignificant. Sadly I can see them shafting global(To be fair, delayed release date is them shafting us already). I expect minimum of 1 cosmic selection ticket and I won't paid anything if they don't give this.
>>1898822I'll be honest, if I can't get those lobby animations without whaling I'm probably just not going to play. Not going to be a second class citizen for the fanservice.
>>1898861But what if it comes with undressing feature
>>1898892It doesn't though, and that would be even more incentive not to play if I can't have that and whales can. Those fags already get free domination in pvp why should they get extra fanservice as well?
>>1898895You know full well they will give skins with extra fanservice features as some kind of premium bonus for whaling like CS prestige skins.
>>1898898Sure but there is a base level of fanservice expected for all players and this game is breaking that rule. BA gives you the same thing completely for free and it even comes with personal dates with the girls as well. Bside really doesn't understand how big of a fuck up it is going to be locking these things behind 4 dupes.
>>1898895My point is IF it's good enough to be locked behind dupe then i might cave in, fuck poorfags.
>>1898911I'm not poor and I always spend a bit in gacha but needing that many dupes just to unlock one single lobby screen which you will get bored of eventually is just asking too much from a fresh game that already has a mountain of problems. Being generous with the fanservice was the only way they were going to get people to overlook the gameplay problems. Being stingy and having bad gameplay is just a death sentence there's no getting around it.
>>1898911>>1898913Don't worry, when the game falls under the red line they will start copying another infamous KR game, Brown Dust 2 and have all the girls popping out their nipples and cameltoe on their l2d lobby screen. Of course it will still be locked behind dupes.
>>1898915Women can walk around outside topless in a good portion of the world. It's bullshit that is hidden away in AO games. Pussy I understand but it is long past time to free the nipple.
>>1898822>To be fair, delayed release date is them shafting us alreadyGlobal is gonna miss out on those random 5* they gave out in mail as compensation on top of selectors with cosmic units. I'll probably just be a f2p leech in this game if they do shaft global. Knowing Bside they're probably gonna shaft global FIRST then issue an apology and hand out gibs for global.
>>1898918I don't care about random *5 as long as the game is "fixed". I just want that *5 selection(inc. cosmic) even if the game is fixed. On the other hand, if the game is still broken, then we do deserve what KR & JP get.
>>1898936How do you fix fundamental core game systems? Revamping the turn based combat and horse training would take years. They don't even have any ideas or they would already be in the game. The best they can do is make it not lag which seems like a stretch for their team.
>>1898938They can take their time with gameplay mechanics. Gacha on the other hand is something they can fix immediately, best they can do is to add a mileage system instead or on top of pity count.
Not even the "Legendary SHE" can save this game.
>>1898984We had a good run, outlived alchemy stars and that one with the cute spider robutts. Honestly we should have died a long time ago. It's a miracle the fag running bside has such an obsession with this story he keeps the thing running even though he doesn't have a single good idea.
>>1898984I bet they already cut "the Legendary SHE" and replaced her with a lookalike because they don't want to confuse those poor people who didn't play CS before.
>>1898986>a good run>*looks inside*>release date Nov 20
>>1899042Haha I was thinking of CS but yeah, if hild and her admin weapons aren't in the game I think the last remaining cs consortium is going to lose a lot of interest.
>>1898184QRD? Didnt the KR rating rise to 4.1 after gacha changes? >>1892214
>>1899752>Gacha change and high rating attracted more people to try the game>These people realized the game is dogshit because of shit optimization, bad business model, boring gameplay etc>Put more 1 star rating so the score dropped again.Something like that.
>>1899752It went up to 2.5Personally i think it's good that people are being vocal and the devs aren't trying to hide it by manipulating the ratings.
Kaleidoriders will save us
I'm just going to play arknights, there's no hope for this game bside is too incompetent.
>>1899779>3241 reviews 1.2>391 reviews 2.5You guys looking at different stores or what
>>1900055I guess gpg has a different rating.
>>1899779>>1900060Even taken into context these numbers are grim. Is bside even planning on doing advertising when global release date gets closer? How can they expect to have a successful game when no one knows it exists?
>>1900063They said they're willing to change so i'll take their words for it.
