Eggs were revealed 2 years ago already...
I could go as far as so super emulator kicks in
>>1858748Where do I even go to do the challenge? I can't find it. Did it end already?
>>1858645I think they said eggs 2.0 will have new designs from eggs 1.0 but I don't remember 100%. Someone is already posting fanart of them on pixiv.
>collab>"cool song" *listens to cover and og on repeat*>"damn i kinda want to play the game">liked the game>play d4dj again>feel the urge to roll for unitsthat's how they get you huh... i want my KAngel but i know the free sp units will cover my unichord needs for events, what a dilemma...
>>1858789You have to manually put them together in medley live
>>1859088What is the secret?
>SEVENTH HAVEN coverOh wow, is this why they're taking out nanasis ori songs?
>>1858964yeah EN seems a lot more lively than usual right now. Hopefully some of the players stick around at least until the anniversary.
>>1859202They have been taking out songs either company own from way beforeWe also had a few guest songs added after coversMaho seiyuu Kagamin said she asked to cover 7th Haven on X
>>1859202>>1859283Need to listen to the full song but I love 7th
>>1859240I love this DJ. Any more?
>>1859516There's plenty of date-chan art out there but IDK who this artist is.
>>1859571>IDK who this artist is.https://x.com/shiromeshi_163
Some say Ibuki gave Noa Watanare
>>1859710huh weird I actually follow this artist and didn't recognize him. I guess I'm a fake fan lol.
Do we think Ibuki bought Noa a yuri romance novel or het?
Noa seiyuu on X more or less confirms there will be no Photon live this year
>>1860346grim. Spring 2026 or new year's for sure.
>>1859328 (Me)If you played the original and the cover together, I don't think I could tell the difference from the intro.
Happy birthday to the cute student council!
Do I blow my savings for Rika?
I would blow my gallons for Miyu.
>>1861006Noa love <3
Forget hibimeshi, ninkoro, watanareJust give me WATATABE collab DONUTS!!!And yes 1st Kanokari collab only has 3 cards in the gacha
>>1861015Do you have enough to spark? Generally GF cards are always relevant (although the current batch may get power-crept out when anni hits if they do a GF Vol. 3).
>>1861015If you have 4 groovy I'd wait for next power creep
wouldwith the costume on of couse
That blurryness of the image makes it rather scarier
Finished Miyu, there also nsfw versions
>>1861734>barely past 12weak
>>1861734Haruna's BBD...
>>1861734W-What did she do to Haruna?
>>1862335More importantly what is in that envelope
>>1862363Inchou's love nectar
>>1862363I actually don't know, artist added it at the end.But we spent some time deciding how to convey in the scene that Miyu thought about Haruna while touching herself, including even using plushie in official style, so more likely a love letter?
>>1862476It can only be an unsent love letter from Miyu to Haruna
>>1862586>It can only be an unsent love letter from Miyu to Harunathats how i understood the picture
inb4 Photon stage event next
https://x.com/SR_okunonuko/status/1974486405721305369oh hey Hayacoco guest star in an Abyssmare doijin mangaI can't go because it is all analog and my Japanese suck Hopefully they put it on sale through 3rd party online retailers
And overwhelming amount of Noa x Towa doujinWhy is this particular pairing so popular with fan circleshttps://x.com/yoruhira_tokiwa/status/1975130253577351662
>>1863234I'm like N3 at best and I was able to navigate comiket fine. Buying/selling stuff isn't that tough.as far as online goes, it varies by artist. Some circles throw their stuff on fanbox or booth or wherever. Others just straight up don't, so you have to hope you get lucky and something turns up on melonbooks or other resellers.>>1863236Towa/Noa gets slightly more development in the JP-only Photon Manga, but it's not that much IMO. From what I've seen, Photon and Noa are pretty popular in JP though so that's probably a factor.
>>1863267There were also a lot of Photon novellas for some reason
>>1863282doujin* novella
>>1863282Makes sense. Those are basically their equivalent of higher-quality fanfiction from what I understand. There's a guy who puts out a steady stream of Yuka/Esora stuff on the Peaky side of things.Someone at this G4L is doing an Abyssmare anthology too, I think.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/136173801JP digglers are capable of crack fics that we gaijin can't even begin to comprehend.
>>1863442Judging from PV, Dennoji remembers that he is the time traveling adopted grandson of Shinobu at end of chapter 4 when LMO logs out from cyberworld to prevent a bad future where PKPK sans Shinobu rule the world with an iron fist.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6y1wmUBWNBE
PM stage outfit looks sexy...
>photon stageENkek here, can someone spoonfeed me the style for the event? pls thx
they are doing the 12 hour time limited stamina potion shit againbizarre design
>>1863789To get more people to play the game. Still won't though. 4 games a day is able to get 3000 still.Honestly donuts will just need to find another method to convince players to play so the regulars don't hit with bots.
>>1863572Yeah I was bummed I couldn't find it on any reseller sites because I really really want to see how Kyoko became dictator of the fucking U.N.That, or why there were anti-DJ mobs and KyoShino were going incognito to fight back (very last page of the PV). It's weapons-grade shitposting and I need it.
>>1863738Medley/Technical/CuteNoa is the rew
>>1863897 (me)Noa is the reward SP*Sorry new time-delay made me post early.
>>1863897thx sis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1423rQ6VD8Photon Maiden with the save
>>1863267https://x.com/SR_okunonuko/status/1978059493918277865It is outhttps://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=3276221
Now I wait for the Towa Noa shipper to put hers on booth
>>1863897>noa is the rewardI will slave for literally methanks donnut
>>1864540I bought a physical copy. Excited for it to come in.
Why does Saki's bellybutton disappear in L2D
JP's having a retweet campaign where if you're lucky you'll get your comment read on-stream. One lucky winner also apparently gets some kind of canvas board. That's probably JP-only though lol.
I prefer Refactoring UtØpia, but should I vote for Meteor if I want a full version, or is that irrelevant?>>1858811I hope we'll still have a gyaru.
>>1865913They casted a gyaru this time
Do we have any news or a good guess about which songs or groups will receive full versions next?
>>1866075Photon is the only one who hasn't gotten any fulls since the Bushi-Donuts divorce, so probably them.
https://www.x.com/miyumi_shuri/status/1978813848946671889>Donuts, do you remember me?
5th Anniversary Neohttps://d4dj-groovymix.jp/5th-anniversary/
>>1866126Pony tail and navelThis is too much
>>1866126Geez that time already? Anniversaries always suck all the gems I saved. Maybe I'll not roll this time...
>>1866121oomf that hurtswonder what is going onPhoton seiyuus also bring it up whenever they can
https://www.x.com/D4DJ_gm/status/1979042185547821122>8 day countdown>Start with AbyssmareDoggos are truly a side project and CoA is whatever.Due this now I doubt if the eggs are even going to be added to the game.
>4.5th anniversary was our half step-sisters pr>5th anniversary is t7s prAnd people (end4twt) got mad when Bushi saw D4DJ as the "franchise for collabs".
>>1866575>アマテラス>ノクチルカI assume these are the SHINGEKI songs. Saori's new seiyuu used to the face of said disbanded idol unit.超寝てないSeems to be a song from idol unit 魔訶不思議変革者Only has a few thousand followers and similar view numbers online.Both units are babymetal clones.>UniChØrd CoverKokoa seiyuu seems excited about this song>11/3 songSaw a fan pointing out it is on the day of EGOEGG 1st Live. So EGOEGG song for sure>HapiAra songSasuga protagonist unit (former)
>>1866544IIRC some JP digglers got pissed when doggos got the floor challenge with a audition ticket on the line + got the summer PR card, so I can't really blame donuts for sidelining them this time.
Weird, all I saw was people wanting more doggos in JP
>>1867095might be a case by case thing. I know I mentioned some JP digglers hating doggos but I know others who basically only care about ABCD and no one else.Personally I wouldn't mind having them as an opening act or intermission for one of the main 8. Similar to what they used to do with EGOEGG 1.0 and what they did with Raychell as Shano for the one M4 live.
>>1867177Most people just hate Unichord and are okay with Doggos.
>>1867204>>1866575>people hate UniChØrd>UniChØrd get cover song on the very day of anniversaryDoesn't look like these "people" represent the actual audience of the game
>>1867227NTA but part of why Unichord has such a large hatedom is perceived favorable treatment from donuts despite their latecomer status.That's why doggos were also starting to get flak since they went from:>They'll (probably) only be appearing about twice per year and are definitely a side unit. We added them because of overwhelmingly positive reception to their debut storyto being the focus on the 4.5th anni + being the focus of the summer campaign + getting a cover (on JP) at a time where getting basically any music was a privilege.
>>1867243>hated by JP hetchads/homophobebros for being explicit lesbians>westerners usually lick any LGBTQA2S shit up yet hated them because reasons and insist they were "secondary units" for yearsmeanwhile JP fans think Bushiroad and Donuts mistreated them by not giving them any anime tie-ins, no solo concert for over 2 years, no attempt to ride the wave when their song became viral etc>tfw Denonbu played UniChØrd songs at their official events more than D4DJ did
I don't want to be a dick and spoil it for anyone, but the western hatedom of UniChØrd seem to be spearheaded by certain Merm4id fans despite Merm4id producer consider Rika to be straight which would instantly kill their western fandomIgnorance is bliss, I guess
Whoa the new voice opening.Too bad I can't tell exactly which girls are saying it
Huge ass Lily in Miyu anniversary art
New Saori seiyuu was also the lyricist for all these songs from SHINGEKI.And she kissed other members on their Youtube channel.
>>1867367>It has 5 petalsnice touch, artist-sama.
>>1867367Don't see at twitter
>>1867430https://d4dj-groovymix.jp/5th-anniversary/It's this site, which is an add for the anni that's previewing the card arts the main 8 are getting (no generic white dresses like last year). So far has been Neo, Michiru and Miyu. Tomorrow will probably be Tsubaki.
>>1863267>>1864570>>1864811Towa x Noa outR15, whatever that meanshttps://tonogata1222.booth.pm/items/7555679https://x.com/yoruhira_tokiwa/status/1979807016001683569
>>1866544Donuts have promised the 3 new ex-idols joining EGOEGG that they will be in the game and the story will be something (probably a bunch of weirdos like Doggos)
>>1867640It seems static, I only see 2baki. Pretty cute but not something I think I'll roll for. This my be my first anniversary without a title...
>>1867795Raika's seiyuu, Udagawa Momoka was also an ex-idol... a junior idol debut under Warner Bros Japan at age of 13...https://jpop.fandom.com/wiki/Theme_Park_Girl
>>1867689R15 usually means ecchi, doesn't it?>>1867828I don't pull on Anni banners ever because it's fucking impossible to get what you actually want from them. That, and they enter the standard pool anyway so I'll just end up pulling them later when I'm trying to get something I actually want during a future event (that's how I got my 4th anni Wero and Hiiro, anyway).
the official account is liking all the posts>>1865703
https://x.com/Lain_Paterson/status/1980227505308205190
shingeki songs are so hard... (pun intended)
Noctiluca made me understand what overcharted meansHard 13 is a better fit for the song
May'n seemed happy when the D4 official account shilled her birthday yesterday. I wonder if abyssmare will get content soon.
>>1869158I get happy whenever anyone remembers my birthday
>>1867204I'm only keeping up with gurumiku because of UniChØrd and the Doggos desuLilies and Photon are a good bonusThis anni Saki art is crazy
anii Saki reminded me that the new Peaky and Photon songs from the last two weeks were both incredible. hopefully we don't have to wait a year for the fulls.
Is it because of Saki tities?
plus saki thighs
>Another jp diggler got marriedD4DJ is for married heterosexual ojisans and OL
>Kemono Friends cover for UnichordKadokawa strikes again kek
Kyoko thighs...
>>1869680still waiting for the yurikuma 'ord cover...
Shinobu forehead...
PhoMai border was absolutely insane, even for a medley (compared to other recent events, anyway).Pay attention, Donuts.
>>1869680>>1870025>Kadokawa>Pony Canyon>ToeiCome on, WataTabe collab when? All the sponsors collabed with us
>>1870442The song writers for WataTabe are also D4DJ regulars
>>1870440What happened? 3k cut off was the same as usual
>>1870651Here's three recent-ish medley borders for comparison:>Unichord Stage (medley):1st 259 mil10th 70 mil (3 kokoa)50th 19.4 mil100th 15.2 mil (2 kokoa)500th 3.7 mil1000th 2.8 mil (1 kokoa)>Abyssmare Stage (Medley)1st 200 mil10th 60.1 mil (3 Elsie)50th 19.9 mil100th 15.8 mil (2 Elsie)500th 3.8 mil1000th 3 mil (1 Elsie)>Photon Stage (Medley):1st 337 mil10th 136 mil (3 Noa)50th 35 mil100th 27.9 mil (2 Noa)500th 5.3 mil1000th 4.2 mil(1 Noa)
Next event is a filler/recap story(?)Also; isn't that a weird time for an event to start?
>random modewtf how does it workdoes it still rhyme?
>>1870741Interesting numbers, it seems more competitive at the high end but past 1000 the points don't change much.
Oh they added Iroha's voice lines for Saori
Holy shit I like this updoot. I don't even need to visit a club to send a like anymore.Also I feel like the chibi map will be removed later. They're trying their hardest to hide it.
The one thing I like about floor challenges is that they still have 5 members for unigay
Is v2 notes detection harsher? Should I switch?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7OBOSoM8Dk8>call of artemis>rave>relationship events including miiko x kurumilmao Donuts are just trolling us at this point
>>1870916The ad says the notes are random instead of the same beatmap. So the rhythm is the same but the notes will be different.>how does it work with slidersDunno
>>1870999I miss old Saori, new Saori sounds like she has a cold
>>1871013spent too much time shouting in shingeki...
>>1870996>past 1000 the points don't change much.Well T1K is for the SP Member, so anything past that I imagine is people who are just logging in and doing dailies.Anyway, looks like we're getting egoegg foisted on us for the next game story. There goes my hopes of the plot advancing.
Do you like the new UI? I think it's slicker but it feels like I have to navigate more menus to do the same stuff as before.
Did they up growth limit? It feels slightly higher
>>1871044Oh yeah they did about 5%/2500
>>1871052Base stats of cards that can't reach the upper limit have been raised from 42857 to 43103...
>>1871058What was the 2baki eating toast set again? Origin? Anyways I forgot how old that is but before the the increase that card set was at 25-26%. So I think cards around this time period will be the cut off for worthwhile growth till the next increase.But now I have to do the none peaky peaky growth to level the peaky growth cards to remain competitive...
NV cards are bugged on my Android tabletViewing NV cards has huge lag and it happens even on home screen so NV is unusable
>>1871011it changes their lanes except disc lanes which are fixedyou can get some real fucking lovecraftian shit with sliders in random mode
>>1871070>tsubaki + toastYeah that's side origin.
>10kthanks donuts
https://www.x.com/D4DJ_gm/status/1981918645757661554The eggs into the game...for December
And new mainline storyline...in December.
https://www.x.com/D4DJ_pj/status/1981918890461389114eggs voice samples
>Connecting...
https://www.x.com/D4DJ_pj/status/1981919141784174765
servers down it seemsincoming gems
>>1871284I hope the story starts before then I can't take another 2 months of blue-balling.
>>1871290How does this happen? I always feel like DJs is on it's last leg.>>1871289Post maint eta, not this
>EVERYBODY SCREAMoh saori... how they murdered my menhera daughter
Well T1 as usual is luck based, I think I'll try during off period.
There's still no claim all for character missions?
Will Miiko noticing the time distortion be a recurring gag until the end of time?
Anniversary tip #11210 discs to upgrade your parameter from 10% to 15%I can do it for KyoShino due to Growth rewardsNot enough tickets from Tours for HayaCoco...
https://tver.jp/episodes/epuj0vquek16:50 timestampHappy Around song
>>1871496There is claim all for each unit. But not gFor all characters >>1871536Holy shit, 15% now? I was stuck with probably 1000s of 2baki discs since I got her to 10 early.
Anniversary tip #2There are 10 parts of a keyword hidden in the 18 in-game announcements made at 25th noon JST in the form of A https://serial-code.d4dj-groovy-mix.com/Input it here for a special consumableIt is very easy to guess the whole word from a few parts but let me know if you are interested in where a particular part is found
>>1871565based
>>1871794is the code in english or numbers? if so I'll give it a shot. if it's in moon runes I'll look for an answer online.
>>1871815alphanumeric
why no anni doggos tho :(
>was thinking about buying a selector>groovy tracks aren't in thereSo you can only get groovy tracks units during that specific time? I understand why and everything but still kinda sucks.
Who are the seiyuus for the interviewer
>>1871888>So you can only get groovy tracks units during that specific time?yeah and they make the rates tough + no spark because the cards are extremely meta-relevant when tiering/doing the Vs. Growth/floor challenges/etc. They call it "scam fest" for a reason.>>1871916IDK but I heard some chatter on JP side about it being random seiyuu from other units. I can't figure out who's who though.
>>1871794Thanks man. I found the code last night but couldn't find where to input it.
>>1858559>no OPWhere can I download their lives?
>>1872107You might be better off asking in /jp/ last I checked on nyaa, only merms lives are uploaded
>>1872107bilibili has most of them if you can tolerate the site being chinkslop./jp/ has a bushi thread that might help like >>1872131 said, but you have to hope the right people are on. The thread has at least one anti-DJ schizo who goes mental when we get brought up over there.The official JP youtube channel also has a few free ones if you lurk on it a bit.Alternatively, you can shell out money and buy special editions of the older singles/albums/whatever. Most of them came with blu-rays of the respective unit's live(s) from the relevant era.
Did they update the growth title? I ran into a player with the peaky growth with lightning effects on it. How do you get it?
>>1872182Oh I have it already, but I never saw the effects on it.Side note loving the new Tokyo Sis songs.
stream starting soon https://www.youtube.com/live/JUBICB_5ULc
Motherfuckin physical CD I got what I fucking wanted don't give a fuck about any of the other news egoegg can suck my egoeggs
>>1872208Anniversary goods: 32 types of acrylic stands, T shirts based on Anniversary cards. 32 types of Anniversary acrylic clocks based on Navigation Cards.5th anniversary CD: from Blood Mary to Angel Flute. Comes with a jacket and a T-shirt of unit leaders 5th anniversary art.EGOEGG: new song Searchlight tonight. 1st Live goods include acrylic figures of characters, seiyuus, Tshirts, towels etc plus signed photos. New radio show with eggs featuring guests from other units. Others: new Happy Around song end of the month. Online goods raffle end of the year.
>>1872218>>1872219I still need blurays of the lives.We are missing Abyssmare 1st, Lyrical Lily x 2, Happy Around 5th, Merm4id x 3, and most importantly UniChØrd 1st
https://store.d4dj-pj.com/collections/turn-up-the-d4djActual CD release from Donuts!!!!No Doggo though. Boooo.Rondo's future also looks concerning.
>Miyu near the front and centerGoddess getting the placement she deserves
>>1872247>>1872219oh CD comes with Nyochio tshirt, not anniversary art
Also EGOEGG 1st Live will not have a live stream, but will have an archive stream on mixch
>>1871010Happy Birthday imouto.With love, onee-chan.
>Radio OsakaTurns out Donuts is the biggest shareholderhttps://www.nikkan-gendai.com/articles/view/money/377385
>>1872247>Rondo's future also looks concerning.Why is that?
They only have one new song and fewer event appearances than other units.
Which is weird because their producer is in charge of the whole project again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIeaE2z-LHshttps://linkco.re/G22AzQP9?lang=en
Yeah I understood they were one of the safest nonfaces of the brand due to their producer.However as long as they don't kill tsubaki like saori I'll be fine
Loving the new egg song!
>>1871916An update on this, according to someone on futaba it was Oyu (Rinku's VA) for all of them.
Eggs 2.0 manage to still keep the spirit of eggs 1.0 despite the obviously different sound that comes from no live instruments + 3/4 VAs being different. I'm impressed.
>>1872560i like the new song more than the other ones desu>>1872432one of the reviews said it was aimi interviewing michiru
I don't understand why they have to change the layout every year
>>1872622Keep you on your toes
>>1872622What were they thinking
>>1872775There is an auto hide UI option nowStarts with 5 seconds
The UI isn't the problem, it's the card size/position because of ultrawide screen.
>>1872404>>1872560The song direction is so different plus from what the new seiyuus said they are not throwing away the old songsSaw a Japanese fan thinking this is the 'Question Arc' like in Higurashi. Something must have happened in universe that caused the egg to swich styles from Searchlight to older songs lol
>>1872389Pretty much they are on the verge to be CoA 2.However, since the new main storyline starts in December anon could be wrong.
I don't know if anyone else is having this issue but a lot of the new pop ups can't be closed, even if I use the universal back button.I thought it was due to the growth issue where you clicked too fast but even if I let everything load slowly it still can't be closed. And it's not frozen since I can see the tap animation.The only solution is to restart the app.
>>1872905At least Rondo didn't get literally put on a plane out of the country.I guess if their next story is "oh hey we got that Alter Ego Expansion in America up and running bye guys", that'd be GG, though.I also worry about Abyssmare one day going away in-universe because May'n gets bored of the franchise.
>>1872947It is a bug listed in the new announcement today
>>1872949May'n just tweeted about the anniversary merch todayAnd that she was thinking a lot about Abyssmare during earlier anniversary tweet
>>1872954Honestly real cool to see how excited May'n is for DJs
Haven't played since that shitty het shill collab. What did I miss?
>>1873076kanokari collab part 2 announcedAnd new mainline story for DecemberAnd matoslave new season on january along with a new physical CD under DD label aswell.
>>1873076a crazy amount of good songs
I do worry about whether Mikumo will be gayHer intro line says she is "your Mikumo" and music connects you and herplus she was supposed to be a yandere
>>1873539they are all gay
>>1873569thanks bro>tfw Sasakoi's Canaria is now a meta song
>>1873076You came back at a decent time.>5th anni hit on JP. Main 8 Units got anni cards and each unit has a unique style.>Most signs point to Collab slop slowing down but there's still a few announced ones we didn't get yet.>Music rate finally started to tick back up in ~September/October.>Eggs are going to be in-game December.>QoL changes to tiering meta. This one is more of a mixed bag though.>New growth caps, new parameter caps (groovy discs), new floor challenge caps>Plot is apparently resuming in December.>No anime announced, no budokan replacement announced.All-in-all cautiously optimistic right now. You might as well stick around and least farm all the free shit in JP.
double-posting but idgaf we're a slow thread anyway.>>1873539アナタ can also be cutesy talk for "darling". Her voice line still came off as pretty nutso to me so it's probably fine.Who do you take in the hypothetical Sophia Vs. Mikumo psycho death match?
https://x.com/MSP_yura/status/1982984332106220031 denonbu... famili...
>>1873712Enter: Ayumi
>>1873755If I met someone else IRL who's into DJs I'd probably die of happiness.>>1873757Ayumi jumps off a roof. The other two clear no-diff.
>>1873781I met a random guy at a con in 2022 or so that recognized my D4FES T-shirt. And then some other guys at another con, now the franchise has a pretty solid following in my local rhythm game community. Even some girls cosplaying Merm4id.
>>1873825I've heard of the m4 cosplayers before. I wonder if they're still a thing.
I just realized they put the last item ticket behind top1000. RIP my RiRi tvs
>>1873755Ma'scar'piece collab when? I'd whale for it
>>1873755Also it's pretty interesting to see that "idols" still take he bus themselves
>>187403120000, not 1000
>>1874047oh I'm dumb
Is Conflict also the best song to spam in special lives?
>>1874058I mean on auto
so what's the ecchiest anni card in your opinion?
>>1874058From what I've seen it's:>Auto - Conflict>Manual - Last Song, 金糸雀 (Kanariya), Denran Remix, Black Lotus (but mostly Last Song).The more autistic JP digglers seem to still be investigating though.
>>1874134PKPK for some reason
>>1874152Sasakoi won...
>>1874190Peaky has always been ecchi. Half their song lyrics are lewd EOPs just can't vibe with it.
>new Navigation card seriesI can't believe they are planning to sell 32 types of flip phones next anniversary
I can’t find anything actually new
>>1874295Also the new announcement board's marker never goes off (the one with the posters, not the one with regular news). Unless I have to go through everything in the archive? It drives me crazy.
Only good T7S song being added is Leukothea.And that's mainly cause of who plays her.
>no more free birthday rollsit's over
>>1874152So if I see conflict I auto and if they pick last song I manual?
>>1874395Pretty much. Apparently Conflict Hard Manual is also viable if you can FC it consistently.
>>1874398I don't remember the chart but it's a 12+, how bad can it be
>>1874040Japanese or rather Asian idols are famous but not famous in American sense.
>>1874040>>1874450idols can be people who play is a basement for 20 people or stars you see in prime time on national tvits a spectrum
