>Beginner's FAQ and Reroll guide (Read everything before asking questions)https://rentry.org/CS_FAQhttps://www.prydwen.gg/counter-side/guides/beginner-guidehttps://www.prydwen.gg/counter-side/guides/reroll>How to get the game>Steam PC clienthttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1976440/CounterSide/Google Play/Apple store/QooApp/TaptapOr use the apk to installhttps://apkcombo.com/counterside/com.studiobside.CounterSide/>GLOBALTwitter: https://twitter.com/CounterSideGBLSite: https://counterside.com/>CURRENT EVENT:OMENS INCOMING>CURRENT UNITS:>Pass: Hag Mi Rinae>Latest Buffs: Jisoo, E1, Nequitia, Mavka, Karin, Dracasia, Nicole, Mors, Ella, Gambler>BANNERS>SSR: Carantisir, Dorothy, Janus, Veronica, Rinae, Bora>NEW ASSR: Milf Alaya>ASSR: Naielle, Ecclesia, Chhristina, Lyudmila, Chifuyu, Curian, Seo>OP: Jisoo, Dain, Dain Again>RESOURCES:https://rentry.org/CS_Resourceshttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19qz0krZfmYj29sj1qwI3GMItFy1S8cy6?usp=sharingAll raid/trimming gear stats:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1S18RoMZFoj9uTeog7UFwmNbvh1vX-gfQ1imRQZDpebs/htmlview#gid=1517657571Shop Guide for Global:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CiimK1-y6wjoLAJjkhTlGYtzanIk-BF2ZBPpa1PutZoGear guide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1wrg8o2SPz59CC_oxBnMjd6SK3v41qVi66AhbsLuLpIg/htmlview#>Global ConsortiumsHildFriends, Prestissimo>Global Promo Codes2NDSEPTC4NWKDSEPTW1KCPN85852WKSEPTCPN48OCT851KWCPN252NPC582KWTCO2ND0M3N2585
Counterside is an urban fantasy gacha game with gameplay similar to battlecats. A spiritual sequel is coming soon called Star Savior. The game is generous but getting close to being in maintenance and content updates are slow. The game isn't shutting down though so it wouldn't be difficult to play and catch up on the story if you are interested in the sequel. Just reroll for a strong awakened dps character and they can carry you.
>our last post was talking about counter strikehaha...
renee wife never everahive already come to terms with it
>>1870457Can't believe how little they did with her compared to how popular she was.
>>1870448I could've saved the thread again but I decided I wasn't going to bump post twice in a row so here we are.
>>1870580it's okay. we can still talk about building PCs and counterstrike here.
>>1870614My pc build got delayed a week, new test came out showing the AIO I got specifically sucks just for my particular CPU. I was very frustrated because I had done so much research and thought I had made a good choice. Had to send it back and the replacement won't be here until next wednesday. New plan is to build next friday and setup on saturday.
Hey guys, it's been a while... I'd ask if I should come back, but... lol
>>1870681Well the game is still going, still getting new story content and there's a loyal group of pvpers. We're just not big enough to maintain a general. Star Savior will breathe some new life into us though. Maybe check back in 6 months when it comes out.
>>1870687>Maybe check back in 6 months when it comes outSure will. I doubt I'd play it though, unless familiar names also come back.
>>1870697I know he's waiting for us on the other side...
> vmg againIts been a while, bwosHILD & Yang posters, doko?
I wonder if there's an angel beats heaven for failed adults. I like to fantasize that it exists.
>vmghaha...
>>1870753been a long time since i saved a csg shitpost
It's a bit sad how csg went from almost needing to make new guilds to fit everyone to 2 dead guilds and vmg. New origin fucked us so hard.
>>1870876Remember when people celebrated that Bside finally left Nexon and went independent? Little we know that Nexon was probably the one held these fucking retards back from jumping straight into the deep end.
>>1870876>>1870882>tfw we had multiple sub 24 hour threads hit bump limit during the new origin maint because people were so hyped, people visiting from all generals, $1m that monthFuckup on a galactic scale.
>>1870982Didn't we make 1m+ for our first 6 months or so? I know we had that whale megashield giving us a big bump for a while.
i need this
>>1870992The whales were getting high on the prestige skin and the new constellation shit at first so things weren't looking that bad at the beginning, but Bside being Bside completely sunk the ship with their constant fucked up.
Been playing CNZ, and just realized that it reminds of CS setting wise.
>>1870876I quit a few months after new origin and have been lurking csg ever since to see that it has never recovered after that disaster. Too many red flags to stick around especially the creator abandoning his child, whether you call it a PR move or not. Anything positive afterwards were just temp bandaid solutions that only held it together for a month or two, only to take two steps back again with poor decisions later.>>1871102Watching some CZN looks like a fun roguelike done right, but I don't wanna pick up another gacha yet. Shame the character designs look boring because I like the production values of animations during combat. It actually made me start playing Chrono Ark instead for the first time and damn it feels pretty cool.
>>1871102CNZ looks interesting as a concept, but 1) the designs seems pretty meh 2) Smilegate.>>1871127Chrono Ark is really well done. I remember playing it for months and it just kept getting better.
>>1871127>>1871161the mindbreaks are the best part, stella sora seems like a nice comfy side game too but shame the devs are so out of touch.
uooooh https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iDUQbIASwhY
>>1871174Trying CNZ right now. Hard to say why, but pic rel is the most interesting design to me. I also pulled the bara furry, wtf.>>1871186>Dash without huge titsFeels complicated, man
we won't be needing hourly yangs anymore
>>1871723Sad but happy for yangbro he can finally get some rest.
bakerbwo, doko...
>>1871723Yes now instead of bumping the thread we can be bumping Yang.
>>1871893 nyes
Is there any other gacha that just puts their brand new units on a pass instead of banner?
>>1871161>>1871127Overall, after playing CNZ, I can say the following:>Roguelike section is actually quite fun and the team building and card interaction is fun to mess around with>Story is hot garbage and the translation doesn't help>Gacha is following Hoyo model, so even though the rolls seem plentiful right now, I suspect a drought soon>Game is looking to be stupidly grindy and it has equipment grind>Game has a lot of timegates which will probably get more irritating the longer you play
>>1872083>bad translationsWhen I was watching a stream I noticed one of the cards had literal code written on it
>>1871102>CNZ character>8 different cards>cards dealt randomly>cards change their effects midway>grind through RogueNG to save a card setup with changed effects to make up a deckthis is way over the top
>>1871161Been enjoying Chrono Ark. Speaking of, the devs just released a gameplay teaser of their new card game Deception Engine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tzz7yi-AGY
you bwos watching the horizon anime?
>>1872450Characters look painfully generic.>>1872463Hadn't heard of it, what's it called?
>>1872450They also likely fucked it up by trying to make it a progression based roguelite. What that usually means is that the dev intends you to not win X times, so you unlock permanent buffs and there's nothing more boring than that.I can't be motivated to play something I'm not supposed to win. Fuck that.Slay the Spire is the king of these deck builders for a reason. You are never not intended to not beat something, and that's how it always should be.
Last pc part coming on wednesday, planning on starting the build friday and finishing saturday. Still haven't decided what game I'll try first. Maybe witcher 3 or doom. Want to get expedition 33 during the next steam sale I hear that one is good.
>let's build a last gen pc to play minecraft, or another 10 yo game.
>>1872580Modern games are almost all worthless. Playing Earthbound using a 5090 getting 9000 fps is the real shit.
>Check for /csg/ in vg>noneFormerbwo here, What happen...
>>1872587Sandy gave up and after that it was a spiral down. Bside all but put the game into maint mode barely giving us story updates. Those of us remaining are just waiting for SS and hoping it's good enough to swap over to.
>>1872591>hoping it's good enough to swap over to.haha...
Is there a way to read the story without having to download the game?
>>1872641Most of the story is on youtube but it's not really collected in one place. You would have to bounce around different channels to find it all. I don't know of an offline list so you would have to at least have the game to see what everything is to search for it.
>>1872643What a pain.
>>1872644Sorry bwo, it's the price for being a small unknown gacha.
>>1872643>>1872645I just want to be able to grep shin jia and read everything that she appears in. Almost nothing else about this game interests me.
pirate omen this week?
>>1872591The writing is already on the wall anon, it's going to be another PVP based endgame with PVE stopped getting content updates after a year or two. Now they also integrated the hideous uma training for characters, you can bet all the tryhards will spend eternity looping that shit to min max their chars for maximum dick wanking in PVP so they won't even have time to complain why the game lacks stuff to do.
>>1872587every guild leader (except based hildleader) had a schizobreakdown with game direction.>>1872702yeah, but we're getting even more iterations of dash
>>1872535Alma wants to be a family
>>1872702>turn based PVPthat shit will be so toxic with retards roping
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/167tjeptLYzrkBvote2C8C5a6g01SiganC4qvmxuBG2k/edit?gid=0#gid=0Here you have a list with every sidestory up to ch.12 I think.
>>1872659Next week if they maintain 1 every 3 weeks.
>saw new Titan and Horizon's skin leak in reddit>redownload game>oh let's check out JP voice updateeh?
>>1872745JP voices are dead as fuck. Only whale skins get them now.
>bside can sponsor shit nowwhat kind of blackmail they pulledhttps://x.com/AGF_Korea/status/1982613219735646670
>>1872842We're probably money washing for some crime group at this point.
Hungry, can't focus, can't enjoy anything. Stomach is gay please shut up.
>>1870876The Hololive collab already fucked CS' reputation before New Origin happened.
>>1873207We've been through so much shit I had honestly forgot about that. Hilarious they fucked up such an easy dunk.
https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/3986/P1Sex with Paradox and farming RQueen's panties.
>>1873438
mmmmmmmmmm
is this flavor text or my game data/files will be bwicked?
>>1873472It's a flavourful way of saying GIGA FUCKING SPOILERS NIGGA!
>>1873439holy forehead
Pick
>>1873567Right, bonnets are gay.
we have discord maybe i should try to infiltratehttps://x.com/StarSavior_EN/status/1980876773735723076
>>1871102i don't like card gameplay in my turn based
>>1873438So Paradox is Rinae for fury?
>>1873777seems so? I dont think we hadfury support either so its afirst, dracasia will like this
>>1873438her ult work on bosses? -50% ASP is kinda nice agianst some
>>1873438Harab now hits your own peeps. Should've buffed Serapel alongside her.
>>1873822>nerfing co opWhat they fuck are they doing? How are we going to do gigas now?
>>1873831its just 1% of her base attack
>>1873842Imagine if we have that retard situation of having leveled a character too much.
>>1873914i think gear is mor eof a bigger deal here
>>1873822Harab always hit your own units for 1% damage to give them a buff.
Y-yuna!?
>>1874123She looks like a brat
>>1874119Welcome to the retirement home yangbwo. Bet you're glad you don't have to work so hard anymore.
>>1874125>paimon's va
>>1874123not nearly erotic enough. kinda wish stella sora had taken off tho.
>>1874154With that awful gacha monetization? Nah, it should flop so other dumbass devs won't try to copy it.
I told u guys... I told u it was nyover...
>>1874208Our end is just a new beginning. Every day we rise up and fight on.
mm yes now get on the bed
>>1874238Why is she talking about gacha rates
>>1874266She talks about the story of CS in her lifetime scene too, in a similar almost but not quite breaking the 4th wall manner.
I like this goober, I bet she's going to be popular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zeYl4vhEMY
What's the point of going to previous dives?
>>1874412for streamers to make a team to help others players.
Don't forget to mix drinks and save lives bros
GAP didn't even went to heliport to see Paradox...
>game stops you from rollingWell this is a new one, not sure that's a very wise thing to do bside. Just make me dump them afterwards but you should never stop a customer from spending.
>>1874574Meh, 130 rolls, always feels like an insult when you get them right before pity. Does this kot do anything interesting? Not that it matters, just spending some of my pointless tickets because she was in the story recently.
>>1874577
>>1874580Oh no please don't bite me, that would just be the worst haha.
>>1874582*Bites*
If she is a tiger, why does she have horns?
>>1874597She was locked up for thousands of years with only robot guards for company. She is very horny.
Once we ded finally and definitively, what are we going to play?
>>1874639We'll never die, if they haven't killed us by this point I think we will go the distance. As long as they are putting out new story I'll be here and planning on playing SS as well.
>>1874639>>1816750
Now you can job in Duet Night Abyss too
>>1874904cute jobber,any of you playing it?
https://x.com/StudioArche/status/1983700384544674005So this is the studio tha tmake animations? iwonder if its owned by bside seeing the "Studio"
Finally got the last part for my new pc, going to start trying to build it today. Wish me luck bwos.
>>1875154you can do it bwo
>>1875154I have a nice local store that listens to what you want, what money you wanna spend and gets it all ready with the experience of what's actually good.I feel like a hobbyist can't ever do this that well unless you end up building pcs for every single person you know, so you get the experience naturally.Though not everyone has the luxury to have something like that nearby so I understand wanting to do it yourself instead of ordering it premade online. That.. can go so badly, because they build in garbage wherever they can save some costs.Long story short, good luck.
>>1875165I'm nervous because it's my first time but also excited. I wanted to do it myself, I've been planning it for a long time. I think I can do it and it will be more fulfilling, still it's scary having so much money tied up in just a few parts and if I fuck something up I could burn it. Here's what I got btw, working on flashing the BIOS atm. Going to take it slow, might take me a day or two to finish I'm not sure. Just reading all the manuals and watching lots of guides.
>>1875171its kinda of a pain in the ass the first time
>>1875171>>1875299I legit messed up mounting the board the first time I did it. But, nothing actually broke, so it was fine.Godspeed, anon.
I'm hurting bwos, back is killing me. Don't think I'm finishing this thing tonight. Took me an hour to sort all these damn screws. Got everything installed on the motherboard aside from the gpu/aio. Probably going to call it for the night and pick it up tomorrow.
>>1875425its better, if you are tired and screw things up(heh) will be worse
bsidde better psot next month preview today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JoezJsttaE>lvl 1
>>1870417SP00KYHALL0WEEN
https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/4011/P1All that waiting for a new awaken and it's just the knight of the lake.
>>1875642this is a pretty sick prestige skin tho
When every scattered arrangement returns full circle to where it belongs the twisted dissonance becomes a single marching song playing the fate of all who have gathered within the rift
>>1875644doll joints sexo
>>1875644I'm almost tempted to get that but I'd have nothing to even buy with all those coins.
https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/4012/P1So there's also Shin Jia's panties. I wonder what they can add to make it worthwhile. It's not like she really needs anything other than skill haste.
>>1875642we kinda new about it already,they added new expressions and some otehr stuff
hopefully in december we get him
>100000 eternium and 2k quartz compensationwtf
>>1875789It's because omen 5 is coming in december and they delayed prestige sigma for an extra 2 weeksi think
November will just be a filler month?
>>1875805There is the new omen i guess there is also Great Expedition but i have no clue what the fuck si that
>>1875425all those screws and I only used the 2nd and 10th to fix the psu and mobo, dunno what the rest are for.
>>1875899I'm not sure myself, I think a lot of them are extras. Some are for HDD and SDD cages and other things I'm not using. I've barely used any of them so far.
>>1875644That shit looks like fanart or like a normal skinIn other words not good or worth it at all. I can't be the only one that feels like their prestige skins have gotten worse over time right?
>>1875980they were never worth the price the design is fine just like the rest
>>1875980I think the whole whale skin system is part of what fucked them at new origin. Every whale already spends enough to get them so there's no extra money there and I really doubt that many f2p or low spenders became whales for the sake of obtaining these skins. You end up with barely anyone actually spending any money on these skins but you still get the bad optics of being a whale game that sells $400 skins.
>>1876019At least they didn't went something stupid like skin gacha.
>>1875980This is easily the best prestige skin they've ever had, you're a fag.
I have 3 questions:1) Is the latest version of Seo Cute, the one that isn't awakened, but has white hair, and use a pistol, as a support class, dubbed in Korean? It's been bothering me how she isn't dubbed in Japanese.2) I noticed that we gained so enormous compensation compared to the usual, 100k of Eternium, 10 of those tickets to explore the counterside hyperdepths, 2k of quartz... what the hell happened for this? 3) Why are we on /vmg/ now?
>>18762061. Everyone is "dubbed" in Korean it's not a fucking dub it's the default language. Do you know what country this game originates from?2. Delays3. Because the game is so dead we can't maintain a /vg/ general anymore.
>>1876214The fact that the game is Korean is what made me even consider the possibility of it having the char dubbed there. Just because the game is from X country doesn't meant all chars are voiced in that language, they can be lacking voice acting in all languages, for instance.
I see we hit a new record on monthly revenue chart, congrats!
>>1876558>$80,000LMAO it's nyover.It at least means we made the right call in moving here, there might be less freakout over this now kek
>>1876558don't check consortium check ins
>>1876791its ok
>>1876676
on the one hand, our counterpass has generic manhwa milf energy, but god it's so much better than the slop in CZN.>>1875980lol, what skins do you think were better? $igma is the only prestige skin to not just be infinite tittyworks>>1876909based
>>1876932>generic manhwa milf energnot really a bad thing desu, at least usually they are quite hot
>>1876932>infinite tittyworksnor rosaria
It hurts when they do this.
>>1876984Welcome back friend, it does hurt but it's nice to think somewhere out there in the multiverse they are always waiting for us.
>>1870417N0V1STCPN12893
>>1877165thanks
>there are still "people" in this game that update their strategy battle defense every week
>>1877403literally me
>all the new 3dshit gachas are garbage slopBros it's looking good for us. SS looks way better than these, supernew knows how to design some good characters. Bside just has to not fuck it up. How hard could that be?
>>1877539too much online shit nowadayhs
>>1877539But SS is 3D too.
>>1877539I still have hope for azur promilia. That and SS are going to be the first 3d gacha I try.
>>1877579meh i'm kinda apathetic
>>1875154Oh hey, pc building buddies! I started putting everything together on the same day as you. Still haven't finished. Did you finish yours?
how about you guys giv emem oney so ican build one too
>>1877858In my case I had to downgrade. My pc was dying and I didn't have enough money to buy comparable parts so I'm on an igpu now.
I don't mind another dead russian loli, but they better not do anything to sweet GAPussy.
read the drama about czn and it seems like the story in the beta which players were expecting was pretty much just counterside
Oh hey lads, the move finally happened huh?Tbh I already come here for a different gacha so board prestige never meant much to me, the bump warriors put up a good fight for a looong timeI used to post bans/ups in the past, hope you bros bwos and bwis are doing alright
>>1870876>>1870882>>1870982Looking back on it, what exactly could new origin have done that would have made the game go into a golden age or whatever?In the end it was mostly just a UI update and they swapped how a few currencies worked, what exactly was the hopium?
TW/CN servers just EoS'd btw. Admit it, you thought counterside only had global and KR servers
Bwos, Our Chinkbwos sadly died just now
>>1877970>hopium>Now that the game was no longer under Nexon greedy hand, Bside surely will focus on more fun PVE contents instead of more sweaty PVP leaderboard shit to squeeze out money from whales.In reality, it turned out they did the exact opposite.
>>1877972>January 8, 2026 12:00: Close the game server, and all data and characters in the game will be deletedNo transfers either. Killed em off, if there even was a CN crowd over there.
>>1877972>2 months' notice>not even finishing the current story arc firstThat's not very cash money of you, Bside
>>1877970It's not so much the idea that new origin could've made the game blow up in popularity but that the actual new origin basically killed the game and would've been better off not being done at all.
>>1877971>>1877972rip
>>1877967good to see you here>>1877972>>1877971Not surprised, it was a censored garbage that shouldve never have happened
>>1877946There's a bunch of metadrama, too. CZN hired a big indie writer, but there was a whole hostile work environment and the CEO ended up adding a self-insert that cucks the player character.It's like BSide in reverse.>>1877967nice. the gangs all here.>>1877985>>1877996wasn't it run by that company that controlled the SEA servers? doomed.
>>1878108Yeah zlong was the one running it and it was also censored to hell surprised it lasted this long desu, kinda funny it EOS'ed just a few days after we move to here too >CZN hired a big indie writer, but there was a whole hostile work environment and the CEO ended up adding a self-insert that cucks the player character.Is he retarded,shouldn't he self-insert as the main character? Why are CEOs so fucking retarded
>>1878114>Is he retarded,shouldn't he self-insert as the main character? Why are CEOs so fucking retardedyeah, i mean, he's the guy that made E7.i also forgot to mention that the indie writer they hired quit and now works on BA.
>>1878135I know that novel i was reading it
>>1877971I'm more surprised that TW and CN shared a server, they hate each other. Or that CN had a shared a server at all, isn't everything in china quarantined there?
>>1878275I'm pretty sure that the CN version is different and that's why they can't do a merge.
Does anyone have a video-guide for super retards F2P to deal decently with the current Danger Close?
>>1878702https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDLB_u0GYEAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlXybV4vfImind you, i did it yesterday before either guide dropped, so can't vouch for either. i couldn't clear until i added ministra though.
https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/4025/P1I totally forgot to link the patch notes...
>>1878844i thought they would rleease knight hte lake with the omen guess not
>>1878844Wait, new content already? I thought it wouldn't be for another two weeks.
>>1878864thats why they apologized since the omen will be next month instead of 3 weeks
>>1878864what new content
>>1878893The next Omen episode bwo
>>1878844Felix's girltoy...
>>1878897what does he mean by that...
>>1878844>Baba Yaga is just an operator summonsad
>>1878108>the CEO ended up adding a self-insert that cucks the player characterJesus Christ it's insane how often that happens. I'll have to dig it up later but that's happened at least twice in other games. What is up with asians obsession with NTR?
Why is there no anime style battle royale game? I don't want to do the fortnite dance. But running around looting and blasting as megumin would be fun.
>>1879158Fate Trigger is only thing that comes to mind but its not out yet.
>>1879158There was one but it put spats on everyone.
>>1879176Thanks for the heads up, that actually looks kind of fun minus the furry but there's only one so hopefully it stays at one. Doesn't feel like a game that could get super popular though. I'll give it a shot when it comes out at least.
Guess new raid boss will be guardian of sephira at full power
The Chinenesefwends lives bwoshttps://news.game-beans.com/jx/fwHomeNote/20251105/7489.html
>>1879415this is Tw server transfer, CN server still dead
>>1879415>TW fags merging into global
>>1879459Soon we will even eat the KR server.
>>1879493i will eat your ass next
>【Notice on End of Service in Vietnam Region】There was a vietnam server wtf? At least this time seems like it was government bullshit that caused it
>>1879614nah, i think it's an IP ban/play store removal. Vietnam is considered SEA, so they would be on Global rn.
Hands up, you're all under arrest for being too damn sexy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNj537mWmgs
>>1879797nyo....
>>1879273The design of the Sephrath guardians is one ot the things that I like the most about the game.
>>1879953>elvesit's so over
>>1879959why do you hate elves
>>1879953>bare feetuooh uooffffat
>>1879913Me too, all the lore about the demons and stuff is really intriguing. I hope they expand on it in star savior and actually give the series a true and satisfying conclusion someday.
>>1879998I liked more when only ESPR was involved with demonic stuff.
>>1879999Quads of truth. >>1880001The snow cunny is doing things to me.
>>1880001Reminder that the knight of the lake is a cunnyseur.
>Mason and JakeOh yeah, it's kino time.
just built my regi and it's my turn to be cringe
>>1880268Hope we get a rivet in SS, love her personality.
>>1880368she s crazy bro
>>1880268I lost the link to the forum where they post these comics
>>1880714the untranslated ones here https://game.naver.com/lounge/COUNTERSIDE/board/24
They made a mistake and put the final episode in the chamber episode.
>>1880747final episode of what?
I don't know if they're gonna be able to finish the story, man. Wrapping up this stuff with Thagirion is going to be the end of this arc but then wrapping up everything still going on with all the other characters and the story as a whole should be one more full arc of the game.Surely the fact that we're getting Knight of the Lake next month and not Thagirion means they have plans to keep going for a while, right? Also surely Curian & co will show up next time, right?
Game costs next to nothing to keep running, I'm sure they will use a bit of the profits to keep it going since it's the directors baby. I imagine at some point years from now if SS is successful they will have merged the stories enough to shut down CS but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Girlsfrontline lived on for years making far less than we make.
>>1880721renee love
>>1880813knight of the lake is this month
>>1870876It was the Chris event for me, shit story
>>1880974all yuribait stories were shit except regina because (you) was involved and became her only light
>>1880975Yeah i agree the Regina story is nice for that reason, also i like her powers
>>1880976speaking of her powers they are pretty broken she should be pretty up there in the power charts if she can freeze even abstract bullshit
>>1880977Casually went from just using ice to freeze stuff to being able to freeze time and her emotions
>>1880983also concepts and reality i honeslty enver expected her to just go straight become that busted but i guess thats why Edel stuck to her lol
>>1880976I like that despite going trough all her troubles and getting a broken power she still ends up losing in the end. I wish she would end up being a bad boss like her mother was which was hinted in the nun episode but doubt they would really go with that route.
>>1880813I dunno man, the fact they're already closing the other servers of CS does not bode well. They could be moving full time towards SS, especially since Bside is a very small studio and they need all the manpower they have to upkeep a 3D game. On the bright side given they put no effort at all into this game already maybe they just keep it on maint mode instead. Expect more intern-kun shit art instead of supernew for example.
>>1881079well the last server to close was the one owned by zlong at least
i'm a bit late but rest in peace, /csg/you had a good run
>>1881165we lived much longer than everyone told we would
>>1881168if only bside hadn't fucked up so many times, what could've been...
can't wait for the new raid to drop more britra and inhibitor gear
She will be in Star Savior, right?
>>1881333she will be released there haha....
>>1881333>EoS gets announced>They release her for free as the last character
the new titan better be coming next month,and he better be busted
worm
>>1881798attack!
Fucking Trickal is getting porn but we don't, it's not fair.
>>1881863holy fattie
>>1870417N0VCPN2ND87
>>1881999thankd
you remember worm right?
>>1882078nyo pls don't make me worm is so mean why can't I auto :(
>>1882104DO IT NYOW
>>1882109DODONEDID'D
>>1881863>Can't play on Google Play PC.I don't want to install an emulator...
>>1882184I wouldn't bother, it's cute but I've seen videos of the gameplay and it looks worse than princess connect. I've heard it' has mountains of dailies and so many menus and submenus it would make your head spin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybg2M6nwBEkI wonder if CS will get any deader once SS is live...
>>1882359i still think a hsr bootleg with pvp focus is retarded, this kind of game flopped like a decade ago already
>>1882361They still release these kind of flop regularly, Rememento is one of the example.HSR only became big because of Hoyo brand name and money anyway, seeing retarded devs trying to copy it with much low budget is just embarrassing
>>1882366thats just how companies are, they see something that made money and try to copy it expecting to do just as well,when its mainstream enough it does give profits but it will never be like what they expect
>>1882359brappppppppppppppppppppppppppppp>>1882361yeah, i think pvp is too limiting. there are more casual whales than competitive whales.>>1882417it was funnier to post Counter Strike
Remember to rightfully shit on all the former thread "regulars" like Sandy if they ever come back for SS.They were all like "bwo bwo bwi bwi bwo bwi bwo" spamming in the general but when push comes to shove they leave without a trace. Fake, all of them.
>>1882447the real bwos stayed until the end
>>1882447Anyone who put up with this game for years deserves praise. Sandy did the best he could and I would be happy if he and everyone else came back for SS.
>>1882453i don't really mind as long we avoid another autist incident
>>1882361I think we'll be ok.
>>1882465holy shit she is flat
>>1882359>locking L2D behind the third copy of a characterjust another dead on arrival decision from bside
>>1882471They cannot be this retarded right
>>1882471>>1882481Maybe dupes won't be as difficult to get. Possibly you can farm them or something.
>>1882486Never mind, we're fucked if dupes aren't easy to get.
>>1882481they copy-pasted the nikke model:- pity system is tokens that you spend on banner characters- 3 copies for the lobby backgroundand added dupes with actual effects instead of just being stats.they'd probably get away with it if it weren't pvp slop.
>>1882495If it's like Nikke I would be super happy. Game is very generous, started playing when doro first came out and have almost every character and 10+ pities saved up completely f2p.
>>1882465>CyGames got sued by Konami for Uma's training systemIs SS gonna be alright?
>>1882465Where did Dash's boobs go?
>>1882495>>1882499i never got hooked much into these games with too much sutff locked under copies
>>1882503Old news anon, Konami lost the lawsuit so hard they had to make a formal statement apologizing Cygames about it.
>>1882465I won't trust this bullshit, they said the same thing about CS too. Look where we are now.
>>1882465sex
>>1882518Well unless they start a new agme while doing it its unlikely to be the same as CS
>>1882447im still here my bwossum
>>1882529Is that our drawfag? Your art is getting better friend. Glad to see you are still with us.
>>1882531im not that guy but he still drops by from time to time right?
>>1882532i think he does check up every once in a while at least
So, Sandy is still here?
>>1882515That didn't happen though, CyGames just announced yesterday that they settled.
>>1882639https://www.konami.com/games/corporate/ja/news/release/20251107/
>>1882756>Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd. has reached a settlement regarding the lawsuit it filed against Cygames Co., Ltd. concerning Uma Musume Pretty Derby (hereinafter, "the Lawsuit"), and the invalidation trial requested by Cygames against the patent subject to the Lawsuit (hereinafter, "the Invalidation Trial").>We decided to settle after sincere and repeated discussions with Cygames Co., Ltd., in order not to deprive the users who are enjoying Uma Musume Pretty Derby of their ability to play the game.Pretty interesting way of phrasing it. Like, they're scared of the horsepussy mafia.
>>1882776Konami was known for having yakuza ties (since they're also heavily involved in gambling machines outside of normal games) so it's pretty likely actually.
can someone post the drink crafting chart
>>1882828This?https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VfbkDbQtd1TWJdypfPK3Svci1zisc__ZXPy18ioRA8E/edit?gid=0#gid=0
anyone remember what drinks give what in the gremory event?
Oh hey it was literally the post above me I'm a retard
Delivery:https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/4040/P1
>>1882893Is this the longest there's ever been between awakened releases? /ourguy/ still isn't here...
>>1882909>Is this the longest there's ever been between awakened releases? Nah, its coming next week with the new counterpass
>>1882893>it's been a year and five months since Shepherd and Lurcher's chapter dropped>we still have yet to find out what happened to them
>>1882972At least they got a small mention last episode, what about Karin?
>>1883004didn't she get mentioned recently?
>>188300422 months. She's been in imaginary space limbo for 22 months.>>1883017There was reference to her having jumped over the first time but we still haven't heard anything about her since her awakened chapter which ended with them getting on the ship to join Admin's world.
>>1883004dead
>>1883004bigsis needs more screentime
Don't look if you are norwegian
the new hardware for playing counterside was just released bwos
>>1883931That shit is so gay, paying all that money for less power than a 4060. VR is also super cringe, I'm never doing that shit until it's as easy as putting on a pair of glasses. Those huge hulking things they have now are super uncomfortable.
yes yes everything according to the script
just saw some ad for some mobile that had a near exact copy of rachel
>>1884142People can copy counterside and no one will notice.
>>1884157nyo....
Going to hurt when korea bwos are getting to enjoy new gacha while we have to sit on the sidelines like cucks again.
>>1884333I'm used to it
>>1884333On one hand I miss knowing upcoming banners, on the other I like having the most recent stories.
>>1884443You hardly need to know upcoming banners at this point. I missed AEsterosa due to running out of tickets, finished the pity for Yeonhwa then went back and got AEste on a rerun and I'm back at like 5k black tickets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R7BNOLCUec
>>1884758Oh fug why didn't anyone tell me hild was already in. I thought they were going to save her for later. She better not be another generic tank this time.
>>1884758i'm taking wilbur virginity!
>>1884774What the fuck
>>1884758Half of these doesn't even look like they are supposed to be the "same" characters. And why the fuck he even included the hololive collab skin?
>>1884769generic striker
Did you move here, lads?
>>1884779>My Life Came Crashing Down At The Peak Of Its Success When A Crazy Robot Girl Went On A Rampage And Killed Me And Now I've Been Reincarnated As A Cute Girl In Another World!?
>>1885271yeah this is our last stand
>>1885271heh
>>1885286Honestly not sure how I feel about wilbur becoming a meme. I really hate the guy, ironically memeing him back into the game makes me uncomfortable. I hadn't even made the connection before and now I feel like I'm going to be unfairly biased against her.
>>1885399He'll come back for her surely.
>>1885417i don't really see much of wilbur on her,i don't want a second wilbur either
>>1885423soviet -> goth feels pretty natural for chris>>1885271this is where beyond the end is
>>1885423i tihnk it looks more like rosaria,its just a case of same face
>>1884769Hild isn't hild without her Valkyrie weapons. They showed them in the preview years ago. She better get them in SS, they even teased it in one of the old trailers.
>>1885399>>1885438>>1885408What is happening? Is Counterside getting killed for some new gacha?
>>1885517thats just Star Savior that bside started using our funds to make it then with some blackmagic somehow now can sponsor entire events too
>>1885519Hopefully it will release for the global audience and hopefully you will be able to play it and enjoy it.
>>1885520Delayed 6 months, it's coming out in a couple of days in korea. Global has to sit in the cuck chair like always.
>>1885522RIP
>>1885522It wasn't delayed it was never going to have a joitn release
3RDCPNYOVWKDCome get your free bins.
>>1885591Not true they said they had to delay global because they couldn't get the dub done in time.
I'm tired of losing boss.
Don't tell bside but my dives are costing barely any info for some reason.
>>1885641Just win then
>>1885638A great, another dumbass devs wasting time and money on dub, then promptly cut it off when they are struggling to keep the server afloat.
>>1885659uoooh
only normies care about dubs, and normies don't like coomer games so it will be censored.
>>1885966nips will spend millions if their oshii is dubbing tree #3
>>1885972I mean eng dub, who wants to play an anime game without Japanese va's?
>>1886097Unfortunately normalfags don't think that way. They can't play games unless they hear the same three english voices they have heard on crunchyroll for the last 10 years.Illiteracy rates also play a large part in it. Multiple generations how have grown up on little to no reading unless absolutely necessary. They literally can't read fast enough to handle subs.
>>1882515https://automaton-media.com/en/news/cygames-parent-company-sees-4-7-million-loss-resulting-from-konami-patent-infringement-lawsuit/
>>1885522What the hell they’re willingly missing out on holiday release for globalI heard people said star savior was in 4 days but nothing about English version being delayed launch. This blows chunks since it’s gonna be people guidefagging 6 months worth of foresight
>>1886128>This blows chunks since it’s gonna be people guidefagging 6 months worth of foresightThis is the worst part, I fucking hate being behind, it's endless spoilers and all the hype is gone long before you actually get the content. At least we saw with counterside bside was willing to catch us up. Maybe they will speed run global to get us caught up quickly. With it being a 3d game it will probably take longer to make new content so I bet there won't be as much to catch up on as there was in cs. Also I was just guessing on the 6th month part, it could only be a couple week delay for all we know they haven't said anything. Here's hoping that's the case, if it really is 6 months I fear that's going to fall in line with a lot of other big launches. They are fucking up so bad not getting a global launch out this month when there aren't any other big competing games coming out.
When are they merging global and korean servers?
>>1886453
Koreans get cool themed cafes, we get shitty delayed dubs. It's not fair.
>>1886505>they're already refurbishing the cafeit's so over
wake me up in a year when the game is good
>>1886539wake up
zzzz...
https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/4060/P1Time to get Shin Jia's panties.
>>1886903>damage mod weaponwhy
>>1886903Andy banner!!
>decide to pick up a copy of the new operator by rolling>full pity with 0 SSRsThanks bside...
>>1886907sexo
i cant login on any device?
>>1886984They didn't pay their host.
>>1886984cloudflare is fucked might be that
>>1886984it's eos
star saviour global pre-register and launch date will be revealed on november 26 ina livestream
>>1887019Where are you getting that info? There's nothing on their twitter page.
>>1887028https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBPkc72Quzs&t=3174s
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1p0ajwh/starsavior_release_news_release_rewards_pull/Here you go slowpokes
>>1886903not a single original reward for the new mode
>>1887047You can be a beta conqueror
>>1886903>>1887047i didn't even read the announcement, but i guess we're getting a roguelite again
I just watched a 45 minute video about some autist wearing a cowboy hat doing ninja gaiden speedruns.
>>1887109was it fun
>>1887182Eh it was alright, I've seen better. Kind of gets repetitive just showing the same run but beating his time by fractions of a second. The whole thing could have been done in 20 minutes or less.
Praying bside is only delaying the game a few weeks and we get a Christmas surprise.
>>1887308since they are already oepning pre-register its not that far away i think until february at most
>>1887327If it gives us good rerolling insight and bside catches us up quickly I will forgive them.
>>1887327CS and SS having the same anniversary would be hilarious, in a bad way.
Have any friends come back?
>>1887401is latest titan in game yet?
>>1887353What's this?
>>1887402next week for sure
>>1887404new app icon for the sigmer prestige skin
>>1887407It's sigma? This is why the you guys aren't successful. Should have been sysop dressing up.ptoey
>>1887401Friends have never left our hearts.
Ah so this is how they make Shin Jia's panties better than usual gear.
They didn't show this frame on the patch notes.
>>1887454wooah momma
aaaaAAAAARGH I LOVE BSHIT
>>1887464You have to roll assuming you will almost always hit pity. The rates for banner characters are so fucking low. Way lower than advertised, it's practically criminal but they are so small time they get away with it.
>playing great expedition>getting raped with only the starting shieldman and fucking Bomi for frontlines>every stage a desperate struggle to stay alive barely clearing the stage before the time runs out>suddenly Veronica>next stage I'm the rapistHell yeah muthafucka. Btw great expedition is striker:side so always farm and juice your strikers.
The summer felix skin is so hot fuck
>>1887454holy shit
Hi bros we are coming back soon together
>>1887492I kind of like how janky it is.I don't know why they gave me 2 Shin Jia's though.
>>1887644janky can be fun as long its not obnoxius janky
>A. Hori's new skin doesn't even have new lines for Lifetime ContractWhat a fucking disappointment
what set for shinjia ee bwoss
>>1887898healing enhcament maybe
Seems like Steam is cucking star saviour so they postponed some shit
>>1888134source?
>>1888134Holy fuck if we get a censored version I am done.
didn't know you could get her alreadyand I think I'm gonna have to pity andy :/
When bside said there would be a new awaken this month after 2 months of nothing I certainly wasn't expecting it to release in the last week of this month.
>>1888314It's great, at this point I can just chill and only log back in when the content updates hit because I have 5 blue pities and 3 black pities saved up.
This crazy bitch has some great lines.
I've seem quite a lot of art for SS assuming its not all paid by bside as long they don't do somethign worse than CS the game should do fairly well>>1888348ACK
>>1887464
>they're using the gay xiao
>>1888736what the fuck si the gay xiao?
>>1870420>game is sunsetting wtf bros... did they archive events so you can go back and read them? also heard they migrated accounts did you lose it if you didnt log in since before then?>star savior is fantasy themedi dont see how its similar aside from the characters looking like expys
>>1888748All events and stories are viewable and playable at any time. The game is still being worked on it's just obviously on the backburner compared to star savior. And Star Savior is a direct sequel but made in a way that you don't have to have played cs they will explain whatever you need to know in it but it has some of the same characters and will deal with the same things the first game did just in a different setting.
>>1888748>game is sunsettingDon't remind me of that fucking game I'm still mad about what they did. I don't get why people still give money to Bungie.
https://game-i.daa.jp/?APP/6443597557Looking at the ranking and comments, looks like SS flopped hard in Japan. Bside really mastered the art of shooting their own feet.
>>1888810i don't understand the ratings
>>1888810The game hasn't even been out a day, can we please stop auto dooming.
>>1888813Just sale ranking/ tracker for Japan iOS, while it isn't accurate you can use it to gauge how much interest they have for the game. It was at 190+ on launch day which means it completely flew under the radar.
>>1888817That's fine for a game with zero advertising budget. If it's good it will spread word of mouth.
>>1888819I mean is japanese ranking wasnt blue archive on 50~ last month
>>1888819>They are laughing at the game having Power Pro training system and wonder if Konami is going to sue it too.
>>1888825Eh, don't really think they will Konami didn't even try to push further the lawsuit to take it down from umamusume
>>1888825What is Power Pro training and why does Konami own the concept?
>>1888826They dropped the lawsuit against Umamusume because CyberAgent isn't some pushover small indie devs they could bully with money, though I doubt SS would grow big enough for Konami to notice its existence anyway.
I fucking hate kraken. Once more I can't get perfectly reliable oneshots on it and it's always some gay shit like someone randomly iframing the pushback then dying.
>>1888937
bakerbwo, doko?bumpbwos, doko?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji3oH61og7IBWOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>1889141>M*leewwww wtf
>>1889141Is that a new song? I don't remember hearing this banger before
More Edel lore?
Bwis... koreans and japanese are already shitting on the game saying it's way too greedy with prices and mid gameplay... even bullet commented on it. Another Stella Sora with even the same acronym.Against our better judgement we hoped SS would succeed but it seems like it's already nyover...
>>1889243sounds like the new origin director went to take another shot at SuperShit
>>1889243I don't know how greedy Bside is with the price, but them calling the gameplay mid is very understandable. Japanese players have gone through half a dozen Uma clones and frankly they aren't exactly fond of it, while Korean devs have been mass producing HSR style games. haphazardly taping together those 2 and released it in the 2 regions that are already tired of those gameplay isn't the smartest move they could do.
>>1889243>>1887037they're already reducing some shit, whatever those arethis is just a beta, right?
>>1889255The game was officially launched yesterday.
so much for dreaming about our glorious return to /vg/ with /ssg/, huh
>>1889255>this is just a beta, right?lolhttps://www.reddit.com/r/StarSavior/comments/1p2p6hl/very_early_impressions_on_the_jp_server/>Drop rate is %2.5, rate-up characters are 1% and hard pity at 200. Problem is $100 get you about 25 pulls (5350 currency, 2000 for 10 pulls), and there aren’t that many packs for pulls resources, so paying for gacha feels awful.>A character banner lasts for 14 days, which will arguably make full collection very expensive.>Max character level, affinity level and passive skill mechanic is locked behind dupes (you need three to be able to reach lv200 or you are stuck at 160, and the stats from affinity and feels somewhat substantial).>The game starts with 3 monthly battle passes and 2 level/progress passes which is wild to me.>Gameplay is really mid, mostly just afk and clear levels on its own since it has AFK income system. The turn-based part is just simplified HSRLimit breaking is worse than Nikke lol. This game gonna be a fart in the wind.
It's nyover nyover, no reason to live. Goodbye friends.
>>1889243i don't really care either way
>>1889301>ss bombed>china dropping jp content and voices because of taiwanIt's never been more ogre, we're going to have to go back to playing normal videogames.
>>1889301ill be replaying dragons dogma 1 dwos
>>1889307>>china dropping jp content and voices because of taiwanwhen did that happen
>>1889316It's a rumor in honkai star rail, apparently they are revamping the next world because it was going to be japanese themed.
>>1889320So another 50 hours of Chink wank to appease to their CCP overlord. I pity people who still play hoyo games.
>>1889324It could be a real problem for all of us at some point. China is the only ones innovating and making grand scale gacha games. If there is serious conflict we can say goodbye to jp voices and any other culture in their games. Grim times ahead.
>>1889327I blame JP companies for shitting their pants and wet their bed to the point they can only mass producing low effort crappy cashgrab IP games.
And now for the good part
>>1889320when are they dropping the anime style though
>>1889335They will claim anime style was actually originated from China.
>>1889288>Max character level, affinity level and passive skill mechanic is locked behind dupesthat's all I needed to hearsee ya star cowboys
>>1889141Remember to thank him for picking out Eve's dress and swimsuit.
>>1889415who fucking cares about fake shit like that when the reality is Bside screwing up their one chance to survive and succeed
>>1889409If it's like nikke gacha it won't matter. Dupes aren't a challenge to get, gear is the challenge.
>>1889434That's the point, it's worse than Nikke's gacha. Nikke dupes don't have skills locked behind dupes either, it's just raw stats. Don't forget you have to roll for Arcana too, and currently there isn’t a rate up for Arcana banners.
>>1889434Yeah except it's not like nikke gacha and dupes ARE a challenge to get.That's like saying "If it doesn't have the issues it does then it won't matter", a worthless statement because it's false to start with.
>>1889435>>1889439How is it worse? Do you not get points for each roll to buy dupes?
>>1889439nots ure if its really harder its too soon to say
Everything will change by the time it comes to global anyways. Bside can't afford to fail global audience we were actually a good portion of their revenue. I would expect changes before our launch.
For me these issues don't bother me that much, what's more important is the game doesn't seem to have any unique hook. Even a tiny thing that other games don't have would be nice. Maybe it's there and you just have to play it to see it but what I have seen so far I just don't see anything I haven't seen before.
>>1889535I miss the "you are a small company" style that we had. SS just look like another guild of heroes.
>>1889574Yeah when we were living in some ramshackle upstairs dump and admin was just a goofy robot. Our secretary was waking us up with voice lines. Those were good times.
>>1888839>They dropped the lawsuit against UmamusumeBwo...>>1886122
>>1889141What's with the shitty art here?>>1889161No, it was already in the previous Eve / Roy story if not earlier.
>>1889591mawnha art be like
>>1889591>not defendersign of it's over
https://x.com/StarSavior_JP/status/1991805389298679851Rank 1 on app store
>>1889614
>>1889614I never doubted
>>1889614Wonder if it will be moddable. Imagine the possibilities.
>>1889288>The game starts with 3 monthly battle passes and 2 level/progress passeslol
>>1889636thats standard nowadays
>>1889636It's not the same as what you are thinking, in nikke style auto battler games there are a million different passes and things you can buy to boost your leveling. But none of them are needed you will do fine without any of that crap. It's just for super whales who want to race to level 500 in a month so they can fight over top 1 pvp rank.
>>1889587That's how it works, it's a money pissing contest to see which side gave up first. Konami demanded Cygames to shutdown Umamusume. The lawsuit was settled and the game is still running so it means they decided to drop the charge to take some settlement money then fucked off.
>>1889614Sounds like damage control.>The game is sitting at a whopping 2.0 rating in the JP app store now, and it still shows a downward trend, so I am not alone in my disappointment. A lot of my complaints are reflected in other user reviews.
>It's a real shame cause I thought the art and the characters etc looked really nice too. I'm playing through it in the early stages too and my impressions are not very positive too. The characters and the assets in general look awesome and the story seems like it could get pretty interesting so far, but translation is kind of lacking too. There are lots of weird ways they frame things outside of the story (like the fucking long tutorial explanations etc). There's a lot of times where I stared at phrases thinking to myself there's no way a Japanese wrote this.Waiting for an English translation when they can't even get Japanese done right.
>>1889655You retard, how it works is that they file a suit seeking massive damages and then reach a settlement for less than that because it's preferable to fighting it and potentially losing and eating the originally proposed costs. It's the lawfare equivalent of bartering.
>>1889665DeepL wrote it
If Konami wanted to sue Bside wouldn't they need said patents to be in Korea this time?
Is definitively nyover guys...
>>1889665>translationPretty much everything gets ran through MTL nowadays anon.
>>1889692The irony of that is they shouldn't have EN delays if they can just AI translate that too. But either case they all still require QA to edit them afterwards and that's what really matters.
>>1889686Can it really be ny9over if it neyver began?
>>1889752We're so beyond the end that we're looping back to being before it.
Leddit has KR reviews now, it's grimmer than grim. The only saving grace are the character designs and the story. Basically what bside was good at with cs. But the gameplay, the dailies, the gacha and everything else are rock bottom. It's going to take a herculean effort to make something successful. Honestly why did they even bother with this game and launch it in this state? Really wish game companies weren't silent monoliths you can never understand their reasoning for what they do. I've been cheerleading for this game for so long, hoping against hope they had learned their lessons from cs failures. But that hope is quickly fading. I think they might just be terminally retarded.
>>1889763We reached bump limit before a month!!!
>>1889767>I think they might just be terminally retarded.The fact that they kept repeating the same mistake over and over in CS didn't tell you?
>>1889776I have a summer home in Denial USA.
>>1889767What if the guy who got pulled from CS for New Origin got put in charge of SS?
>>1889850Seeing how CS ended up even after they pulled that guy out, it really doesn't matter who they put in charge, Bside is filled with retards.
>>1889767I can't find the KR mass complaints you keep seeing
>>1872450>lucy with a gun>momori with a golf clubhmmm
>>1889905they even got tommy and the losers on the right!
>>1889865There are threads on gachagaming and starsavior with player reviews, as well as several reviews on their app stores.KR app store rating at 2.5/5JP app store rating at 2.1/5Qooapp rating at 2.8/5
>>1889969trust the plan
>>1889970If the plan is to moneygrab maybe?>L2D is locked behind the third dupe for the character.>it genuinely pisses me off so much, even whaling wouldnt get me 3 dupes of the character i want. such a shame too, the artists clearly put a lot of effort in these L2Ds only for the monetization to completely invalidate all their efforts.>I am fine with whaling to get L2D even but... the price for pulls is so atrocious you aren't even gonna get anywhere with $1k even. As someone who can spend hundreds instantly on day 1 if I like stuff.... I spent a total of $0 so far because the monetization in this game is just so freaking garbage beyond all recognition.>game already out of top 100 on sale launch.>Optimization is exactly dog water. the loading screens are more abundant than nikke>Real time PVP has no 2x speed and skill animation skip so it takes years to finish.>The gameplay also is a dumbed down version of umamusume mixed with star rail.
>>1889969Imagine the steam reviews when it drops there.
>>1889141>M*le AU when their game is deader than deadHow daring
It's impressive how Bside has actually managed to EXCEED our expectations when it comes to how hard Star Savior will flop. How they always manage to create a nice looking product and then shit all over it at the last moment. How do they do it???
i love kraken its my favorite boss
>>1890059It didn't flop,unless it fails at retaining anythin, even games like Tower of fantasy were originally considered a major flop and its making millions monthly to this day
>>1890080But tower of fantasy had an advertising budget and star savior doesn't. It could become the best game ever but how would anyone know?
>>1890080CopeGOD... I kneel. Your power of delusion is truly second to none.
>>1890080It's not fair to compare the grand scale of ToF, not only owned by Perfect World but when it was being one of the first competitors of Genshin at the time, to a 'literally who' game by Bside.It's like they think they can just slap all systems of popular games (Nikke, HSR, Uma, E7, etc) into SS and think it's going to be an instant masterpiece, but they fail to understand why those systems work so well for those games in the first place.The next coming week will be interesting when they reveal global release date on 26th and we see the first weeks of their revenue. Don't be shocked if global gets delayed again which would be terrible in the upcoming 2026 gacha market, can't imagine their investors are happy right now.
>>1890129One of the bigger title, Enfield, is going to be released on January 31. Bside completely fucked up their timing by delaying global release. There's literally no saving this.
So since bside got investors on board for SS if it dies it can potentially take CS down with it.
Korea is just the testing ground so GlobalCHADS can bask in success. They will get all the bad ideas out of their system and when the game launches globally it will be a smash success. Trust the plan, Sandy moved to korea and learned to speak the language so he could collab with them and teach them the right way to do things. We will be rising up soon brothers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3TWY_x4lDA>already throwing out SSR selector to bribe players>that wall of comments complains about the game being greedy and boring to play.You can tell how desperate they are already.
>>1889969Name a gacha that did not have poor reviews at launch.
>>1890178what the fuck is BM they keep mentiomning
>>1890179Business model, maybe?
>>1890179Bowel Movement
nibble is smol
>>1890174>The funny thing is that at this point, SSE is a more expensive game than Aion lolThose comments>>1890178You can literally check any app for rating history, Nikke and Brown Dust 2 have near flawless records. Even Counterside was and still is highly rated, ironically.For recent gachas, take the latest hit CZN is sitting at fucking 4.9/5. Trickcal at 4.8. GF2 did great and still sitting strong at 4.8 even after all the drama.Now Stella Sora is apparently a flop, but somehow has higher ratings than SS atm.Of course and Bside has a chance to turn things around... surely. Just have to, you know, rehaul the game they just launched that's built around the business model.
>>1890203I said "at launch", not "currently".
>>1890179https://www.reddit.com/r/StarSavior/comments/1p3hk37/some_early_impressions_from_kr/Business model, relating to not just pulls but progression too. Here some more in depth KR impressions and it sounds quite ugly.
>>1890206>Special hate goes to the "exclusive offer for 2-hours only" model when completing the tutorial and other checkpoints. It feels super predatory and should not exist in 2025. Also deceptive, because the currency they (and other packages) grant for pulls is the free one, not the premium version.Not more of this shit.
>>1890205You realize those games came out like a month ago? Don't be disingenuous if you think ratings shift that drastically when you can literally see the counts/graphs on the app store, even for older "currently" games that clearly have barely negative reviews. You seriously think SS is gonna soar to 4+ in a month? Shit I will actually play it then if really happens because that's impressive.
>>1890206>Difference between SSRs and SRs are massive. And there's also a difference even within SSRs between Cosmic (chaos/order elements) and non-Cosmic units.Is that their version of awakened?
>>1890199nibble should sit on my face
>>1890203>Brown Dust 2Sorry I can't take anything else you say seriously. You obviously aren't aware of the history of that game. It certainly was not flawless at launch lmao.
>>1890199I want to Nibble her
>>1890217Adding to that though it does prove that a game can recover from an abysmal start. Even if SS is bad now if they put in enough effort they could recover. Time will tell if they can pull it off, guess that global delay was a gift after all.
>>1890212Kinda, if they just copied from Nikke, which they were called Pilgrim characters, then unlike CS Awakened characters, they are available in the normal pool but with a much lower rate compare to other characters.
>>1890220Yeah, I am waiting for SS to turn into literally softcore porn for its miraculous recover like BD2
We just need to win the new year power ball and aggressively take over bside so that we cna make they stop doing retarded decisions
>>1890223Wasn't that snowbreak? Went adult only (but not full sex), got a second wind but is now forgotten again.
>>1890203As a phd level no-life loser, the only winner straight out of the gate you listed is Trickal. Somehow, the rabi got revenge on all of us (including smilegate).>>1890229They both did it. BD2's pivot was a lot harsher though. I tried it back when it was "comfy retro vibes, with upskirts".
>>1890229i still doing kinda good i still see people having meltdowns in some updates
>>1890231SS already laid the groundwork by removing male characters because they think males aren't suitable for this kind of game. A few more push from their investors and I could see them just turn the game into another snowbreak or BD2 to hook people back.
>>1890236Kinda a shame even as someoen that mostly want girls one or other cool dude as long its nota nigger or try to take the spotlight of (you) is fine to me
>>1890236If they do that I'm not even downloading it, I'm tired of the asian mentality that every female must be for the player because in their insecurity to get a partner of the oposite sex they rather delude themselves in this stupid fantasy.
>>1890238Good stay away every female is for me
>>1890238There are millions of western games made for you.
Must be a common name...
>>1890269gook naming for oyu
>>1890269Kim is to Koreans as Smith is to Americans
hmm...
NYO4THWKNDCPN
Triple Vesca
>>1890238>A bunch of annoyances are popping up with the game's memorial system (extra event+wallpaper when you fully limit break a unit). People don't like how it's tied to limit breaks (AKA rerolling the same character), not only because their ability to fanboy their waifus is being gated by RNG, but also because a lot of them are being forced to experience the memorial events of their non-favourite characters first, which makes it feel like they're being forced into a scam marriage (a lot of references to the Moonies here).You out of luck bwo, they crazy over any speck of NTR.
>>1890287Wow
>>1890277>NYOit's NYOVER
Now that Star Savior has failed Counterside 2 when?
>>1890314Beyonder the Endest
>>1890292noooooo, I'm being sexually assaulted by low rarity units
There we go. Just luckshit Yeonhwa from the 2nd boss and you, too can be a beta.
lmao bside paying hololive to shill SShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMDc9WQnf3E
>>1890387Well at least they had the sense to get a Korean to do it this time...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vDbrFv7p21UJoin up, it's probably going to be the usual wow sugoi clap clap stream though
>>1890395BSide is late to their own stream...
oh god they were showing off the gacha on stream and had to reach 200 pull pity before getting an SSR, idk if these streams are pre-recorded but that was not a good look LMAO
>>1890407It's fine, you would never fail the 50/50 pity or did they introduce a hard pit
>>1890409Anon, consider most game with 50/50 pity only usually cap at 160 rolls while this game cap at 200 rolls, even without 50/50 it's objectively worse.
https://www.starsavior.com/jp/news/019ab077-ca14-73fd-b64c-a0dbcc3f8540Devs apology + improvements notes, such as packs giving more currency now and the ability to delete account for rerolls. Bunch of other things too but they're more gameplay related.
the good thing of not being syched global is that i'm not wasting m y time being a tester lol
>>1890407Why did they even went with 200 pity after counterside's 150?
>>1890429DEVS LISTENED
>>1890433copying uma
>>1890429Allowing rerolls so late seems to have backfired, JP and KR players complaining about having progressed and spent money on their accounts which they couldn't reroll on. In extreme cases they're quitting or refunding to get their existing account banned to reroll a new account. Also, as expected, KR is memeing the fuck out of the 200 pulls no SSR from the official stream.
>>1890440>In extreme cases they're quitting or refunding to get their existing account banned to reroll a new account.They're giga-retards then, they could've sold those accounts.
>>1890444Ain't no one buying an SS account lilbro
>>1890444Nah they're doing chargebacks, meaning 100% money back, selling accounts only nets you back a fraction of how much you spent. At this point they need to provide a selector or something for all accounts registered before rerolls were enabled, but some retards have already refunded and deleted their accounts.
>>1890429>oh shit quick revamp the entire gameDamn they are SCARED. There must be a lot of investor money riding on this if they're gonna nuclear backpedal like this. The whole point of a beta was to catch stuff like this so the fact they waited till things were this bad to change it meant they really hoped people would eat the bullshit up.Will it be enough though? Doubt it.
>>1890440>KR is memeing the fuck out of the 200 pulls no SSR from the official stream.Did that really happen? 200 pulls without a single SSR is insane. Their apology patch notes didn't mention fixing SSR rates.
>>1890429>BM still the same>L2D technically still has a 3 dupe lock>Nicknames used to be unique wtf who does this>Rerolling has a fucking cooldown?>Balance so fucked up gotta rework gameplay>New feature additions may take longer, and updates become difficult mid-December, but we aim to apply all changes by January.I don't see anything to be hype about here. Bside staying on top of making the more retarded gacha designs I've seen.
>>1890476Hardcore Bsidefags may stick around but for average gacha players they probably already dropped the game and moved on. I wonder why they even bother having betas when they still release games in such broken states like this.
>>1890484Sandy was one of the biggest Bside glazers on here and even he left. Maybe the trust the plan guy that's still here will consume this slop but almost nobody else will.
>>1845510In case you need translation for the changes its in the SS thread. Thats right vmg has a SS thread except its deader than csg.
>>1890476>Will it be enough though? Doubt it.Thing is all these changes are cosmetic things to lower starting pain points. It doesn't do anything to change the gameplay which is what you will be encountering every day and from what I have seen people aren't happy about.
>>1890497Changing the gameplay requires the devs to actually know which part they need to improve. Seeing how they just picked a bunch systems from different games, dumbed down everything then glued them together, I doubt they have a firm grasp of the problem.
Do we need to make a new bread on /vmg/
>>1890508On /vmg/ generally only at page 10. It'll take another week or 2 to get there then stay there for another week.
>>1890509Alright
>>1890507I agree with the other bwo who said pvp is holding them back. Every game that has it can't balance anything for fun. But cs only survived through pvp so I doubt they want to give it up. Honestly I just don't see a way forward, uma gameplay is tired at this point and they haven't innovated on it. Same with the turn based combat.
>>1890508just looked at the other threads. there's one with 1.6k comments.i guess we're fine since it takes a million years to fall off the board.>>1890497>>1890507yeah, the way forward seems like the Trickal route of being just story/memes, but the economics of 3d models doesn't really work with that.
>>1890494● Before:○ Unlock viewing/lobby placement after 3 limit breaks of the same Savior● After:○ Viewing unlocked at Affinity Lv. 10○ Lobby placement remains 3 limit breaksDo you need dupes to even place a character on your home screen?
>>1890513Trying to balance the pve around pvp is a death sentence. Making a gacha with pvp is already a natural born debuff that shuns players. It's fine if pvp has optional worthless rewards but not when it has pull currency/FOMO skins etc. They need to scrap it but Bside is so fascinated by having pvp for whatever reason, probably cause it's free content so they don't have to make any just like CS.
>>1890518In nikke which I assume is what they are copying you can have a generic model right away and then a splash banner with 3 dupes. In nikke it isn't much of a problem because dupes are easy to get. But they are just static banners, the animations ss seems to be doing for their characters are more like the blue archive ones which all come free. It really is baffling they are locking everything that would really sell it behind so many walls.
>>1890519At least in cs you could grind pvp shop points against npc and defense teams contributed nothing.Did they kept that for savior?
>>1890523Yes from what I recall it's almost exactly like it is in cs pvp isn't a requirement.
>>1890521The live2d lobby animation is pretty common nowadays, Stellar Sora and Chaos Zero Nightmare, which just released last month. also have it, and you unlock them via affinity level. Bside locking it behind dupe paywall is retarded, but it's kind of dumbass move just what you would expect from them.
>>1890477If you're a lucklet it can definitely happen. The gacha is similar to Uma or Nikke, but objectively worse. SS is 2.5% for SSR with 1% rate up on banner SSR. Uma is 3%/0.75%. Nikke is 4%/2% (1% Pilgrims). That's why it's easy to collect dupes in Nikke.With those rates no SSR in 200 is very likely. Gacha with 50/50 might even look more generous than SS since those usually have pity at 70/80 pulls, and they have ramping rate ups at 50/60, so you might pull stuff earlier than the hard pity.That's why reviewers saying SS might be one of the most expensive gacha they've seen, and looks like the patch is only giving more stones for those first time purchase bonus packs.
I like how CS finally released the IS roguelike mode almost at the end of its lifespan when other games had perfected it years ago. All Bside had to do was follow the example instead of making shitty Dives and people would have enjoyed it way earlier. Their incompetence is world-class.
I fucking hate fighting lucia, what a lazy fucking unit. Oh how do we make this viable? Just give her a billion hp. Dogshit game
>>1890561>WWD0G
>>1890543>2.5% for SSR Yeah that's low for sure. Doesn't make sense. You're chasing a niche market within the large mobile space, which is appreciated, but then you blatantly try to fleece that market and give half-baked apologies that don't address the issues when called out. It's a really bad look. Everyone wants that young adult male with too much disposable income demographic but most of these devs seem to think it's an easy demographic to please and take advantage of, which is the opposite of the truth.
>>1890543Isn't 2.5% just CS rating?
>>1890589yeah and you have to pity 9 out of 10 times. That's why 3d gacha games have pities of 50-80 usually. If you have to pity 200 eveyr time it's going to be OVER.
>>1890589>>1890597Isn't CS 3.5% for SSR?
>>1890604thats with the rate up i tihnk
Keep checking reddit hoping there will be some positive news even though I know there won't be. I've been hanging my hat on the hopes of SS for so long. It really hurts to see that it was all for nothing.
>>1890666it will be fine satan your lies can't deceive my hopes
>>1890543>SS is 2.5% for SSR>With those rates no SSR in 200 is very likely.No.
>>1890674I DON'T BELIEVE IT
>>1890674Hence lucklets. I've gone 100s of pulls with Nikke's 4% before without a hit. Shit sucks but it happens so I'll believe any KR/JP crying about it, but it probably would of been less of an outcry if prices were cheaper too.
um wheres the new bare feet elf counter?
>Counter:side will remain the flagship gameWe are so fucking back bwos
>>1890873More like SS flops so hard they have to pull the plug on CS' life support as a result.
>>1890873when did they say that
>game flopped>pulling out the bunny girls alreadyDid they learnt this neat trick from BA.
>>1890949bside is trying to pull the "flopped start but we were able to rise to sucess" to impress investors haha....
A code geass rerun with cornelia will save this game
I think we have reached the nyend...
>>1890949/ss/ with Sanae>>1891068we were beyond the end, then we turned back for it
>>1890949Looks good, sad that games can't stand on art alone. Some other company should outsource CS to do their art and leave the gameplay to others.
>>1891078Until actual sales show upits pointless to try to doomtalk about survival
>>1891094Early sales numbers don't matter, hell CS made more than 1m for a while. The only thing that matters is how many spenders you can retain for the long haul.
>played the roguelite mode once>went far enough to get every reward but the titleWhat was the point of this thing again?
>>1891141 they need to do a proper one with endings and shit but idon't really put my hopes up lol
>>1891143I wish there was some roleplaying going on with events nodes instead of outright saying what you get. Maybe mix with stuff depending on characters you have, like if you find pirates and you have an Alphatrix member you can bribe them or if you have Scavenger member you can threaten them instead.Make the trave like FTL where you can jump between nodes freely but is constantly chased by stronger force, add some resource management from old tactical mode like fuel and ammo.
They are making fun of us in the gacha drama thread because of ss :( It's not fair, this was supposed to be our big comeback moment. Why is bside letting the hundred years of humiliation continue?
>>1891378>I went to check the nips' opinion and they all were laughing how legendarily disastrous the official live stream was, they were showcasing pulling for the launch character and it took them to full pity (200 rolls) without a single SSR along the way.Lmao you can't make this shit up. Bside deserves it
I legit wonder if this is truly the SS they wanted to make or they just started getting cold feet after CS began tanking in revenue and decided to just copy whatever was popular at the moment to try to ride the popularity wave/appease investors.
https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/4078/P1Our brother in Eve appreciation appears.
>>1890674You are acting as if this isn't likely, but there are the following issues:-1 in 158 accounts will have this exact thing happening on average. And this is PER 10 roll start after getting an SSR.-This is an average, and averages may or may not work well because RNG is flawed. I know plenty of gacha where you either get nothing or a lot with little in between. Over a very large amount of pulls this will even out, but these extreme scenarios are a lot more likely as a result.Played a gacha where I went over 200 pulls with no SSR with better odds not just once but twice over 3 years of playing. And that was a stingy game, where you get maybe 40-50 rolls in a month. But I also had banners where I got a fucking rainbow almost every 10 pull.
>>1891389Anon, it was obvious that someone from the higher up forced them to change the game direction, starting with the removal of male characters even though they were featured quite prominently during early PV reveals.
>>1891404yeah they hired a new higher up named 샌디 (Saendi)
>>1891396>meme extortnot this shit again
>>1891409Funny how many healing counters they add to the game and all healers are still permaban-tier.
>>1891404I don't remember seeing any male characters in SS at any point. But they are missing THE LEGENDARY SHE.
>>1891396>No actual content, just the bannerIs this the first time this has happened with an Awakened unit?
>>1891417Maintenance mode is real.
>>1891417I think it happened with a bunch of older ones. Also Lyudmila.
>>1891414Watch the first SS PV when it was still called Project Star, you will see at least 2, later PV also shows them with 3d models before they got removed when the game was officially named Star Savior.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqrGUu9g1bUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxUUKOcY_wI
>>1891422>Watch the first SS PV when it was still called Project Star, you will see at least 2In both of those trailers, aside from the captain, the only character that could even arguably be a guy is this one, who could also just be a reverse trap.
By the way, isn't this girl missing from the final release?
>>1891423this is LEE SEHA you dum
>>1891425What?
>>1891423He's obviously a male character, not reverse trap since they changed him into this >>1885423
>>1891417Nah
>>1891427>they have the same cane>lame shota got redesigned into sex incarnateI'm calling this a win
>>1891396>Healing extortHe gets healed by enemies healing?
>>1891445yes>steals healing>as a rangercowardit's useless if the other side doesn't have any healing too
>JP SS doing livestreamwhat
https://www.youtube.com/live/nCJ9o5Qe5_8I dont understand gook but the translated comments say they're raising SSR rate to 4%
>>1891488>invalidating past purchasestime for a refund
>>1891488heh they rather do that than reduce the pity
>>1891488 (me)People are happy now, from the comments gacha related changes:1. Reroll time reduced to 0 and existing players all get a LD selector. 2. Gacha base rate to 4% from 2.5% and rate up unit to 2% from 1%. 3. Every 66 standard pulls receive one random SSR ticket, and every 100 pickup banner pulls, receive one SSR selector.
https://www.starsavior.com/kr/news/019abb2a-7036-73e0-a60e-70d72527b498Patch notes, seems really good and KR players saying game is saved.
>>1891495Wayyyyyyyy better if realPerhaps the Stars do have a Savior
>launched with extremely fucked system>players outrage>immediately push out update so they can earn some good devs point and had players praising them for "listening and saving" the game.Didn't we already see this pattern before with CS Origin update. Are we letting Bside trick us again?
>>1891507Origin permanently nuked the playerbase into oblivion though.
>>1891495correction for the 3rd point, these tickets will be given retroactively to current players to essentially compensate them for the pulls they have done with the lower rates, not a change to the gacha system
>>1891488They couldn't even get the guy a proper greenscreen room. Did the investors come knocking Bside door with guns in hand and they had to make this emergency stream inside a closet? >>1891495Yeah, peak Global benefit, missing out all these apologize bonuses while having accelerated schedule to catch up.
>>1891514What if a tribe nine situation happens? Where whales spend hard on the rate up banner to get a bunch of compensation then stop spending since there will is nothing to spend on anymore.
>>1891508Not at first, people were willing to stick around and deal with the whole nonsense for a while, especially after they announced that the guy who was behind Origin update got removed from the team.If anything the playerbase had too much trust in Bside.
>>1891495>>1891498Changing gacha rates afterwards has never had a good outcome. Remember how Tribe Nine flopped after they did the same thing? The game is fucked beyond repair
>>1891529Changing gacha rate and system basically means they admitted that the game flopped hard and this is their last chance to make a comeback before EOS hit their face.I doubt the people behind Bside are very happy about this outcome.
>>1891529Pretty sure Tribe Nine was in a much worse state
>>1891532Pretty sure you're huffing terminal copium.
>>1891492They don't have the balls to do it but they should just shut down the game and work on it for another 6 months.
>>1891495>>1891498Ok but that doesn't do anything to help the gameplay which everyone was saying sucked. Who cares if you can roll characters if there is nothing fun to do with them.
>>1891576Snowbreak already proved that gameplay doesn't matter if they can have characters wearing skimpy swimsuit shaking their tits and ass while getting bukkaked by MC ice cream maker.I expect SS will follow suit soon.
Updated rates match Nikke but won't save them enough because it's still a game with 200 pity that demands triple dupes for skills and unlocks. Bet it fucks their expected business model income too since less will spend. First impressions are critical for gacha and irreparable damage has been done in those markets, RIP JP. At least it has a possibility to look a bit better on Global's launch with everything updated but it feels like it's going to trend exactly like Counterside's history and fall off to the bottom of the charts.Then there's the gameplay that's still the other elephant in the room. Not only does SS lack production values and marketing/franchise backing, it brings nothing unique so it's forever judged by other games that already do it better.
>>1891600The game only need to make 1/10 revenue of nikke to keep itself alive
>>1891600Their expected business model income was already fucked since no one was spending money anyway. It's baffling how they thought they could get away with it in the first place, JP might already be doomed because of their retarded gook practices (just like CS again!)
>>1891516>emergency stream inside a closetHoly shit the vibes of how fucked up they are he gives off in this stream. Are they even going to give refunds or any retroactive compensation to screwed over spenders?
>>1891600>Bet it fucks their expected business model income too since less will spend.Getting dragalia flashbacks, ngl.Anyways, there's no point dooming. We're riding csg to the bottom. GIVE DASH HER TITS BACK
Has is it even been one week?
>>1891631No its been like 5 days, honestly why do they never test this shit out before launching in such abysmal states.
I don't know how you see this as anything but willful sabotage. Mistakes this big don't happen by accident. I bet the CEO wants out and is trying to tank the company so he can take a gold parachute and gtfo.
>>1891647It's aslways some retard in the position of leadership,but i have to wonder how many of the things in the game was the CEO doing what investors told him they wanted in the game,and if there is someone less clueless than retarded CEOs its investors
i still like old shiyoon design more
>>1891647Grasping defeat from the jaws of victory seems to be a Bside special. Remember the Origin livestream?
>>1891658>Remember the Origin livestream?I'll never forget the hype. Then over half of it is just advertising for SS lmao.
>>1891647What's if they just cancel Global release to cut losses because I honestly don't see how they are going to reel back the JP players after that shitshow.
SS is beyond the end already
>>1891672I doubt they were counting on JP in the first place. Korean games notoriously do bad in JP. I doubt even if it had gone well it would be thriving in JP. Global and Korea were probably always the two regions they were counting on. They know korean cucks will wait for them to unfuck the game but global isn't so forgiving. It was wise to delay the game for us.
>Although Rank Battle is an important real-time PVP mode, we never intended to force players to participate. However, some daily/weekly quests required Rank Battle participation, causing stress.>These Rank Battle requirements will be replaced with different tasks. However, the Gauntlet Pass and achievements will remain unchanged due to their nature.>The main topic in KR has finally moved on from complaining about the game/devs, to people spamming PvP losses (PvP achievements give pulls)
>>1891672I would guess that bside thinks positively about global, since i think we were the only market they had a good launch in.>>1891678>Korean games notoriously do bad in JP.I know this is the case historically, but BA/Nikke managed to defy this trend. If you were an indie studio in KR, you'd probably be praying to be one of them.
You think the'll have the guts to kill characters in SS?
>>1891714Nope, 3d characters take way too much investment. No way we'll ever get horizon finance kino again.
It's kinda depressing that this general has more activity than Star Savior's
>>1891726I thought there would be more people willing to try it on the JP server. Figured there would be at least a bit of active conversation but there's basically none even on reddit. The game is just as obscure as cs, they still have a 0 dollar advertising budget.
>>1891726there is a SS general?
Is Nekuroi still here? Can we get a spreadsheet update or did even the keeper of knowledge die?
>>1891727Same. Apparently nobody gives a shit even in gacha drama spaces, I looked everywhere. The guy who said Tribe Nine was in a worse state is on some delusional shit because that dead game had like 5x the population in their reddit compared to star savior's.
>>1891818Tribe Nine was hyped for its similarities to Danganronpathis shit has nothing aside from the ebin "PvP Star Rail"
>>1891818That game had the danganronpa crowd, SS has us.
>>1891824If they are lucky they can still catch the global crowd who aren't tired of the uma training shit yet. Not sure about the KR players but the JP ones were certainly sick of it though.
>>1891865I'm pretty sure most of the normies are tired of the training shit now.
dude looking average
>>1891873He didn't quite kill the supporter dummy while fully geared for me so his dps is a bit on the lower side. His skillset seems way more pvp focused with heal steal and bonuses when enemies die.
>>1891880>when enemies diehe stole the reactor buff of lewdmila
I got the awakened
>>1891817what changed?
what a cheery old bean
>CS is already inside a coffin with one leg sticking out>SS bombed>Pushed out a mediocre male awakened char amid all of thisI wonder how Bside office looks like these days.
Realistically, can they even do something to salvage SS at this point? Global will not take kindly to dupes being required for skills and lobbies and the gameplay is still plagued with issues
>>1891918Even if they fix it they're gunna suffer from having used the gooks as beta testers. Bside is basically fucked no matter what.
>>1891918Double down on the PVP and pray that the same whales keeping CS alive will do the same for SS.
>>1891918They don't have much of a choice now and gonna have to bank everything on Global's success to stay afloat. JP is a lost cause, KR will only have hardcore slurpers stick through it.It's like that JP reviewer said:>the gacha space has evolved a lot. Players have less money and time to spare because of the economy and other gachas, story and gameplay are now more important because high-quality art and characters are everywhere.Crunching to redesign SS is definitely burning them money and manpower, it's literally new origin all over again. This would affect CS's development too, little that is has already from focusing on SS. The most grim scenario is CS EoS to shift all resources to SS.On side note, I could see SS having a CS collab during CS anni with AHilde to try to funnel new blood into the game. But who knows how set back their schedule will be from all these changes.
>>1891925>story and gameplay are now more important>Nikke is still hugely successful
>>1891935I see people praising Nikke story, but I don't play the game myself so I have no idea if it's really that good or not.Gameplay wise, you will have to admit it's unique enough that several other mobage already copied it for their events, now compare it to the "we have everything but master of none" SS gameplay is.
>>1891937nikkek has okay story, not amazing or anything but it can show people that it's made with carethe side stories of nikkek are great though, probably on the same level as hoyo stuff, those definitely have higher impact on revenue
>>1891937>I see people praising Nikke story, but I don't play the game myself so I have no idea if it's really that good or not.It's terrible drama wank where everything happens because everyone is retarded.>>1891939>the side stories of nikkek are great though, probably on the same level as hoyo stufflol, lmao
This is a mihomo free zone slurpers go back.
>>1891925It's kinda funny actually, Star Savior feels much more outdated as far as gameplay and monetization is concerned when compared to Counterside despite it being almost 6 years
stream soon and i swear to god they are too heavy on this with dogeza images and all? I think this was all deliberate as retarded as it sounds to startw ith
>>1892000>Literally begging the JP to not drop the game.How many family members from Bside staff got taken as hostages by the loan sharks?
So almost half a year behind for Global?
>>18920213 months isn't almost half a year anon, its 3 months
>>1892021>launching global that lateit's dead
>>1891935Nikke is successful for far more reasons than it's story and gameplay. Backed by a studio that actually knows how to develop games, it's probably the most unique gacha currently on the market. Main story is the main attraction and has spawned some of the most lovable characters, but most of the event side stories are just skippable fluff. But the gameplay is arguably good too since it appeals to both casuals and sweats, and has minigames that put other games to shame.>>1892021DOA. Leddit is laughing. After Endfield and any other gacha that might drop their date around then. It's fucking hilarious how they've been advertising the game in English forever but treated last. If Global is delayed 4 months they should of just delayed all servers then, but knowing Bside they still wouldn't be able to figure out how to release a proper product regardless.
>>1892021its fine
>>1892160>and has minigames that put other games to shameThis is a very overlooked thing, I have been completely awed by the insane amount of work they put into their event minigames. They built entire metroidvania games, vampire survivors, a dave the diver clone all just for a couple week event. And they aren't just tiny things, they were beefy, obviously not comparable to a full game but it was incredible how much effort they put into them. No other gacha has even attempted what they do.
>>1892160>Leddit is laughingThere isn't even a comment about it on star savior or gachagaming reddit so not sure where you are getting that. Also not sure why people are trying to hype up endfield where there has been almost nothing positive said about it through all the beta testing. Even the original arknights players don't like it. The game isn't being made for anyone who wants it.
>>1892212Blindbro it's the 2nd top thread on gachagaming for 6 hours...
>4.1 stars on KR appsThey did it...
>>1892160>DOA because gachagaming said soRetard bro....They think Uma Musume will DOA, but look at it now.
>>1891817>>1891907bwi decides to namedrop without further explanation.
>>1892218Faggot reddit was showing me "hot" threads and I guess that one wasn't hot enough. Scrolled down pages and saw nothing, when I changed to new it was there. I hate reddit so much it's unreal.
Happy Thanksgiving friends, in rough times like this there is nothing like friends and family to rely on. Hope you all have someone to spend the holiday with, if not we are here for you in spirit. Love you all bwos.
hmm
>>1892423happy thanksgiving to us all>>1892436that's a lot of satisfactory, anon
>>1870417>>1892423>>1892455THANKSGIVINGCS86
>>1892478Horizon and friends better show up in some way in SS.
sooo does harab still work on gigas?
>>1891426So why does the MC design change from the black one to the white one?I like the black one more but white seem to be the one that get all the screentime.
>>1892809maybe double indentity
>>1892809I think it's past and present, like the cold admin vs the friendly GAP.
>>1892812>>1892814From looking a bit at the story that was uploaded on youtube, this is what i understood:They are the same person, Black version got erased in the prologue, Ashera went back in time to find him and get him back.MC Seems to be from another planet similar to ours or counterside but not much is said about it.Ashera find him and isekai him to her world, during the travel MC get whitewashed.That's more or less what happens.
>star savior floppedCounterside won
>>1892883but at what cost?
>>1892707That's a good question.
Should I read Welcome to the NHK? I watched the anime and was left a little unfulfilled by the ending. Is the manga any better?
>>1893062didn'tv really fell much better to me
>>1893062i haven't read the manga, but i do have a copy of the novel and i can only conclude that the point of the book is "that guy is a fucking mess".
https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/4096/P1Dev notes. No awaken this month but the counter pass is a flying god-machine. Also rare spawn raids.
>>1893270>our annual skins>replacing alternium reactors with straight buffs>gauntlet bans changed yet again
>>1892982Counterside cant go beyond beyond the end(eos) or Bside would collapse. We are guaranteed to live at the cost of star savior demise.
>>1893295They're putting all their eggs into the SS basket because Counterside is a failure in Bside's eyes, or else they wouldn't of neglected development on it.
>>1893270I 120'd her and never used her
bakerbwo, prepare the ovens
>>1893422It's /vmg/, dumb dumb.
doombwos our response?
>>1893446Why is it the only one without a rating?
>>1893458Dunno when i look in my broswer it shows a 4 star
>>1893424>not wanting to go back to /vg/bwo...
>>1893613If you really want to go back to /vg/ they will need to make something good for next awakened/mainstream which should be in february or march
>>1893270>one entire month for a single unit>a pass unit>no events>removing a mechanic>the 4th raid after 5 years
>>1893666also 2 skins,a operator but not unit , new omen
Why is the egirl so strong bwos?She literally carries you from the new game mode
>>1894046She was always a sleeper, back when I still did anything besides co op I used her all the time and she wrecked hard.
>>1894046gachaslop is about the memes, anon. the fat balding office man also had a moment in the sun.
>>1894055Until he got cut down in his prime because he dared to be too good for his rarity.
>>1894046It was nice to use again some of ol' reliables like Sobin or Dash.The starting soldier lineup is pretty trash, wish you could change in some way.
>>1894057That was such a trash decision. It's not like he was outperforming all the other 3 cost defenders and now they make absolute bullshit awakened defenders like aEste and hahamilf.
You know what I'm going to miss most in SS are the ships. CS ships were such a cool idea, the designs were amazing, reminded me of shit my friends would draw in school. It's a shame bside didn't even bother to try to do anything with them and dropped them completely after a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4OFofURZyw>more hololive shilling
>>1894134>even the vtuber is dogeza-ing
I was watching a bit and couldn't help but notice some reused music from CS.
>>1894134koyori, you don't have to lower your head like that for the likes of bside
>>1894134I wonder if this is more or less expensive than having characters in the game
>>1894083I'm pretty sure the ships stopped bieng made because some contract related wtih the group they outsourced to,it wasn't bside doing the ship models
I thought we didn't have a general, hello friends, good to see you
I helped some dude here buy his pc a few months ago and shilled getting more ram, he got 64gb iirc and now he's a millionaire
I've seen the counterside korean youtuber switched to star savior full time, the game looks okay, it didn't blow my mind and it feels catered to a younger audience, which is fine
>>1894193can you make me millionare too so i can take over bside
>>1894196yes, short META, openAI, tesla, xai, microsoft, oracle and wait for the chinese to release deepseek v2 free and open source and watch those companies lose 80% of their value in 24 hours
>>1894192We'll never die friend even if we had to move to the retirement home. Glad you found us.
>>1894193Hey that was me, that ram is 600 dollars now. I've seen pics of ram going for 900, the world has gone mad.
>>1894327how muc hyou paid for it
>>1894330200, got a deal on newegg it was 60 dollars off. Not even a week later it doubled and checking now it's 569 pre tax.
gigas is a bad guy, kill him
>Knight of the LakeYeah yeah, very cool. Where is my new Cunny Meitner content tho?
>>1894623after 5 main episodes of asimovafter 5 main episodes of serapelafter 5 main episodes of beezelbubbut before 5 main episodes of that flat gremlin I forgot the name
NYOCPNWKND5
>>1894647>NYO
What's with all the NYO codes?
>>1894746it's nyover for real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tIXv71kZiY>>1894647>>1894695>>1894746>>1894749insider-kun is still among us
>>1891425Lmfao he looks like fucking Kevin Kaslana. I love how Koreans are making their own Honkai Impact ripoffs now that Mihoyo abandoned the franchise to the wolves.
>>1894948That is just the default anime boy design.
>>1895016We already had a perfectly good design with administrator. I really hate the idea of now being someone else. Adds a weird psudo cuck element to the whole thing. I know we're in a different world with different people but not completely, hild is confirmed there at least and pretty sure admin is as well. It's not going to be an issue for people new to ss but for cs players I dunno maybe I'm overthinking it but I just don't see why we had to change.
>clicked counterpass and got it before finish to levle 50i feel uspet
Well this is disappointing, Harab doesn't seem to do anything to gigas anymore. Not sure how I'm going to beat the timings, uggg too much work too little care. Damn why did they have to change something that just worked? Was she broken in pvp or what?
The Knight's lifetime contract scene actually has some lore drop, thought he was actually going to deny it for some change. But nope, back to status quo.
>>1895190ray when not a twink
>>1895159i think so. i've been getting nuked by gigas for a while now.
>>1895016>Dirac Sea>Captaincome on now.
this is getting annoying
>>1894046https://streamable.com/80838iShe was always useful to cleanse a whole stage of trash and do direct damage.
>>1895347It goes back to normal after you make 10 or so posts.
>>1895351Don't forget to watch your ads!
>star savior is so dead on arrival it didn't even show up in the monthly reportbwos...
>>1895680do they report the gachas without globals
>>1895694yeah, for example they reported Naruto Mobile, Gakuen Im@ and the new jojo thing despite being CN and JP only, respectively.it's beyond nyover.
>>1895680Dishonest, game launched at the end of the month they never report games that quickly. It will have a huge number end of december because it will count nov and december.
>>1895359never forget.>>1895680it's so bad that I saw bullet playing CS again. it's ovah. does anyone know how the 2nd holo stream went?
>>1895930dunno i missed it
https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/4110/P1Not much.
>2) Fixed an issue where an abnormally small amount of Info is being consumed when entering Dives.Noooo my info!!
>>1896250Veronica has been in a coma for like two years now...
>>1896297didn't she show up in one of the omens or i'm tripping
2nd try>>>/wsg/6041924
>>1896342OH MAI GOSH
>>1896342Wew lad, too bad only whales will have access to these for a while. Not sure if blue balling the customer base is going to be a good strategy.
>>1896808sex
500 free pulls for SS
>>1897057that's 2½ SSRs
>>1897287just don't be a lucklet
when SS flops, is bside going to mkae CS 2?
This is what BA gives away for free and f2poors won't see for years. https://www.reddit.com/r/StarSavior/comments/1pcyknh/had_to_pull_her_to_3_stars_for_this_and_its_worth/If you don't whale you can't pvp and you don't get fanservice. What is left? Training, pve mode and story. I wonder if that will be enough to sell to the general public.
>>1897291GRIM
ramlet bwos I dont feel so good
>>1897550If you don't already have at least 64gb of ram you might as well kys because it's never been more nyover.
>>1897564nyo...
>>1897564>32gb>1tb of ssd that's progressively dying each daynever been more nyover
>>1897564>Bought 32GB of RAM for my current PC>One of the motherboard's RAM slots crapped out years ago so two of my four sticks have been sitting in storage for yearsI lost but I won
What are some good low tier gigas teams these days? We're so far beyond the end that I can't be a pacifist any more...
>>1897810This isn't an optimized team by any means, and it might work differently at low level I don't hit low so I'm not sure but it's what I use so maybe it can give you a point of reference to start at least. I used to have harab but she doesn't work anymore so I took her out and replaced her with karin to help shoot down the barriers. You might need to bring in your healer earlier depending on how geared your tank is or how many buffs we have. The deploy order early is just to land sigmas shield at the time of the bosses first ult when doing full auto. You can swap people around to hit whatever timing you need it might be different at lower levels.
>check out vmg starsavior thread>KR in mass refund mode>arca whale gets a 6k usd refund>1.2 rating KR play store even after apologystreamsoh no no no
>>1898213It's so bad at this point I've lost almost all hope and am looking for other gacha to pick up. Bside has proven origin wasn't a one time goof that is their natural state of retardation. arca whale gets a 6k usd refund:https://arca.live/b/starsavior/155724045KR on mass refund mode.JP cord feedback (translated):Dear Management Team Member,Today, Brown Dust 2 and Epic Seven announced their upcoming update plans. Both plans clearly address the player's perspective, including creating new gameplay, reducing player workloads, and increasing benefits.This contrasts sharply with the hollow, empty "update plan" announced by your company's producer a few days ago.Whether a game is loved by players depends, first, on understanding its strengths and making the most of them. Second, on providing good "service" to players, identifying their pain points, and building a foundation for long-term management.Your management team has not achieved even one of these two fundamentals.Regarding your company's strengths:Do you think that casually assembling various game systems is a "strength"? No. You yourself should know this.
>>1898220Currently, your only strength is your art (character design). That's why they're clinging so desperately to the most critical aspect from players: "Home Anime can only be unlocked through a complete breakthrough." They're afraid that changing it would mean they'd no longer be able to make money.From start to finish, you've never once considered how to improve the game, create new strengths, or extend its usefulness. All I can sense is your mindset: "Make as much money as possible now, while the novelty is still fresh in players' minds, and then fade away quickly."Regarding player complaints (pain points),You're well aware of this, too. How many streamers and video creators have pointed out that your training system and the RTA mode are starkly inconsistent?Why is it that character passive skills can only be strengthened by randomly selecting multiple characters?This is the biggest contradiction in a game that includes an RTA mode. You're well aware of it, too. Similarly, I'm aware that your gameplay sucks, and understand that your only way to make a profit is by relying on pay-to-win elements like this.Let's compare them.Compared to Epic Seven, your equipment system and RTA balance are crap.Compared to Uma Musume, your training system is extremely stale and boring.Compared to Nikke and Brown Dust 2, your employee benefits are a world apart.While character design is your only strength, it's not unique enough to overwhelm your competitors.
>>1898221You rip off everything and make everything even more boring. I've played all of these games and paid for each one. However, the pressure to pay for them all combined doesn't compare to this one game.Now, to the core issue. Why on earth should I play Star Savior?Furthermore, is there any other game at this point that offers four featured summons (UP gacha) right after launching service and only distributes a small number of summon tickets? Do you think that distributing a few character fragments amounts to "giving a character as a gift"?Let me be frank with you. From the start, your company never gave the slightest thought to making a good game or achieving stable profits over the long term. You simply created a product haphazardly, "copied" systems that other companies were making money from, crammed everything into one, and aimed to make a quick buck during the temporary frenzy at the start of service, without caring what happened to the game after that - this is your company's true objective.So, if you continue to remain silent, make excuses, and gloss over all your "improvements" with minor details that are irrelevant to the core mechanics, namely:Lowering the hurdle for unlocking home animeAbolishing the passive skill unlock system that relies on character breakthroughs, or changing it to an easier methodOptimizing the "Uma Musume"-style training and support card system, which have been endlessly criticized by players-- Without making any changes to these, you'll just keep as many players as possible hooked for the short term with small perks, squeeze as much out of them as quickly as possible, and then fade from player memory like Counter: Side. If you truly want this game to be a success, first optimize the game's core mechanics in a way that alleviates the pain points that players are pointing out.Otherwise, you'll soon be reduced to a stray dog on the side of the road.
>>1898220>>1898221Don't try to talk about Epic Seven or brown dust 2 here i 'm not falling for their shilling
>>1898236No one is shilling them they are just saying that the shit bside is copying from them is better in the original game.
>>1897955I think this is the first time someone posted a team where I have all the characters, though 1/4 are lv1 naked. Also no maxed Sigma, in fact I never leveled any operator skill past lv1.
>>1898292Operator level doesn't matter. Naielle, soldier girl I can't remember the name of and the last 3 are all just placeholders, you can put out anyone that has the same deploy cost. It's all just to get timings to line up with the shields to protect from boss ult. But it won't line up with earlier levels so you'll need to do your own testing if you want everyone to live.
>>1898213just a correct response for a game that pulls a fraudulent practice like changing gacha rate shortly after launchif they changed lobby requirement that would also become one of the valid reasons to get a refund
Bwos we used to have so much soul... What happened? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLX3kvtLLW0
>>1898307we lost the timesay goodbyefor all souls
>>1898304It's also funny that nobody has no clue how the future gameplay rebalance will shift character's values, which could potentially screw over anyone who whaled for current characters.What a mess.
Anyone know if there is a version of Bleach that uses honorifics? I miss seeing onichan instead of big brudder and other gay shit.
>>1898356only the older fansubs i also het that shit when i read manga
>>1898307https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qDSiEGGQhoAll the effort is going to new song in episode 15
In the end, I fucking wonFuck Bside for ruining Nanahara for meFuck you
>>1898784what you mean?
Is there a consensus yet on how good Knight of the Lake is gameplay-wise?
>>1898784chinatsu schizo?
>>1870417DECWKND1ST89
Today is the last day of co op battle or whatever. Not like it matters, everything sucks and we're all dying. Bside failed us, there was no plan.
>>1899928Co-op never mattered to begin with but it already double stopped mattering when Rosariapits died and there was no one left to wave our dicks at.
>>1899958The friendly competition really did keep us going. It was a sad day. I miss you sandy, hope you are doing well wherever you are.
>>1900000Holy quints
>>1900022This is the greatest accomplishment of my life and I wasted it on a dead general.
>>1899928How is co op attendance nowadays? I'm not in a guild anymore
>>1900195You can count it using just your fingers.
>>1900043just ressurect it
>>1900207Is Hild still top 10 with 10 hitters? If so holy grim.
>>1900245I'll let you know in a couple hours.
>>1900247We have exactly 10 hitters, 1 more who did arenas so 11 total active players. Looks like the top consortiums are still making an effort but nothing like they used to.
>>1900331I don't hit gigas because I have no idea what to do.Worm is manual play, but at least it makes with vomit and dive triggers. Gigas just kills everyone, summons adds with hitchecks then kills you again because you didn't get the hitchecks.
>>1900349Gigas is simple these days, you just need 2 fast attackers to clear the hit checks and then 3 shielders to block the boss ults which is usually sigma operator and hild drop. Then you just get the right order of characters so you can time those shields to happen right before the boss ults and you can do it on auto. If you play manual it's even easier but most don't want to do that.
>>1900331>only 10 hitters, still at #18Bwis...At the very least Hildfrens can still stay strong at the top till the end as the ship sinks.
Hey bros I'm trying to finish all the story before this game dies but I'm stuck in mainstream 10 and can't push further, any tips
>>1900725which one you are stuck on?
https://www.counterside.com/notice/item/ct/en/tbl/notice/idx/4122/P1Still nothing much.
>>1900917its next week when the pass finishes
Hello friends. I quit the game a few months ago. I came back looking a thread in /vg/ but found none, so I came here. How is the state of the game? Is anyone even playing? I skimmed the thread and not gonna lie, I got very, very sad, almost to the point of crying at work. I remember how I used to post in /vg/ thread, asking for tips as newfriend, then getting into Hild, trying my best to hit the worm each time... Sharing my pulls, complaining about PVP, discussing story. Part of me wants to come back, but I don't know if it would only make me more sad...
>>1900999the game is nice despite the slow updates and not many players,mosly story and newer characters
>>1900999most people only do funny pvp now
>>1900999Yeah, we really are beyond the end out here. But, we had great times. I remember the freakout the first time I posted the yuri ragebait chart.
>>189835645 filler episodes in a row what the fuck?
>>1901594Man what the heck, I skip to the next no filler episode and suddenly people that are dead are alive again and all this other shit that sounds important they start referencing. I've been trolled, it's not filler if this shit effects the non filler episodes. Now I have to go back and watch it all from the beginning.
>>1901594Is it the fucking bount arc? That shit was ass.I liked the plush trio, too bad they kubo never cared about the mod souls thing.
>>1901625Yeah, I'm only a couple episodes into it. I don't mind it's a nice break after the endless battles before. Just going to watch it all without skipping, don't want to miss things since they clearly are scattering lore and important events in it.
>>1901590post it again, anon
>>1901590the game never recovered from the yuribaits
Lets get to 900 posts before we die. Check out the new ss cunny. They turned sigma into a loli and possibly confirmation that this game is set in the far future which is disappointing if true we might never get any cross over from cs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvDtg8YAgQ
>>1901961we will
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