It's garbage time.
>>1899791>mid animations>mid abilities>mid ezaJust delete him from the game like zeno deleted his timeline
Did I fuck up or they only gave 1 of these?
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??!!
Holy shit Trunks got such a shitty eza WTF. I bet dacuck is gonna build him with full dodge regardless LMAO
Trunks is probably the worst EZA since str jiren
>>1899791>>1899912It can't be that bad, right? My def calcs put him at a decent level after transforming and passable in base.>>1899871Burning Slash is still a top tier animation to this day and he has a cool KO screen.
>>1899947He's insanely fucking mid
I hope they keep making boss fights that build up over time and cancel dodge so those shitty builds die kek.
Favorite? Least favorite?
We'll get a good Trunks for Carnival, r-right?
>>1899959>favoritetao - borderline gamebreaking for the meta he came out, could do fuckhuge damage and tank almost anything>least favoritedaimageta - completely failed his one job, was barely salvaged by daimaku almost a year after his release
>>1899959Haven't used 3geta enough yet.Don't have TaoThis Cell is a 50/50 in whether he'll actually die to activate his revival passive and then another 50/50 if he'll actually get tanky enough after revivalKinda whateverDon't have him, but nice nuke thoughNice slot 1 for Androids. I like his rocket punch. I still wish 18 would get a standalone DFE already.
>>1899954I mean, he was pulling off 30-45 million crits after transforming in the showcase at least. If he manages to survive the incoming powercreep this time, I'll be able to accept it.>>1899945Trunks is absolutely better than Kaioken x3. He's at about the level of Boujack movie Gohan if we got more longer events.
three "..." title......... it's so fucking overhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK22aDjAiOw
>>1899959I only have Tao and Baby Veggie, noth of which I only pulled from the tickets, I think they're really great but I don't ever see myself using them often, they need more missions to take advantage of
there's always his seza in 5-7 years
>shills coping that he can get 100% dodge>50% base dodge>gets 5% dodge per attackso he has guaranteed dodge...when he does 10 supers per turn?
>>1899987Full dodge HiPo my boy!
>>189998710% per super. You're looking at 80-90% realistically.
The state of the game at the moment is honestly really depressing, as somebody who's played for over 9 years this nay just be the worst content drought of all. Ofc things were really poorly designed back then as well like early WT grinding and F2Ps being gouged to hell, but at least there was more content being released on a regular basis, even really shitty years like 2023 had a decent pool of events. What are we doing now? Waiting for new EZAs, waiting for special day, waiting for the rank cap upgrade, waiting for the next anni, wait wait wait. All the waiting could've been filled in with:>New category missions added to old events>More Boss Rush (we could have about 20 by now)>Renew Hero extermination plan already it's been a literal decade>Bring back Collection of Epic Battles>Make more DB Story renewels (also add Super to the categories) >Add new quest stages, or if that's too fucking much to ask somehow add Super 3 levels with Red Zone difficulty for challenge rewards >Fix the shitty friend system>Fix nuke leaders being banned from hard events, either by lifting the restriction altogether or just barr them being leaders in them>Add better rewards for playing Ultimate Clash multiple times>Bring back old burst modes (which they did just very recently, but should've come much much sooner) >Make tickets less of a scam by letting dupes by tradable, the fact that's never been addressed is pretty fucking bullshit I'm sure there's a hundred dozen others I could list but that's just a small handful of things we could've, and really should've seen happen throughout the 10th fucking anniversary, of all years to fumble. It's a bad omen.
Save Hybrid Saiyans...INT Sword of Hope Trunks...
>>1900015>content droughtWhat are you babbling about we got more events and stages than ever this year. 2023 was shadow dragons, future rz and mortal will, that's it. Basically 1/3rd of the challenge tab is shit from this year.
>>1900015>Boss RushBoss Rush has been piss easy garbage for 99% of its lifespan, same for IDBH, Intensifying Fights, and all the other "challenge" stages designed for new players.>Make tickets less of a scam by letting dupes by tradableI'd rather have DFEs and LRs be worth 10 coins or something. Nothing feels worse than a premium pull you already have rainbowed.
>>1900015I broke my login streak 3 times during the last 30 days.
>>1899959>FavoriteSplit between Cell and Tao.Might actually give it to Tao, he's a beast even with no links. Cell always wastes his revive at the start and his damage isn't really there.>>1899959>Least favoriteEh. either of the daipas. SS3 is less offensive to me at least. So gonna give it to daipa4ku
>>1899910No you're fine, they're giving away one ticket per weekly mission set until the anniversary commences so as of right now you should only have one ticket. The unlimited uses are there so players who forget or choose not to make the exchange can do it later and don't miss the stones.
>>1900144no teq ssj3 broly?
>>1900144massive overreaction. trunks is subpar but can work in events where dodge is permitted, black on the other hand was so shockingly awful he was unusable on release of his eza. he didn't even make my extreme int battlefield team because he dragged the team down, and that's with the team being 60% future saga. no damage, no defence, just worthless and not even worth doing if it wasn't for the stones.jiren's not much better although he did have one or two extremely niche uses in sbr for his teamwide stunning abilities. trunks has okayish attack and okayish defences. he'll get your team obliterated in endgame content because of how retarded the game has become since the 10th anni but he'll have his uses. he's outdated by about a year in terms of ability, but that still puts him miles ahead of those two retarded bums.
>>1900172after watching his showcase, he's just really underwhelming in all fronts especially atkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK22aDjAiOw
GORESH HAS A WIFE?
>rainbow>LL 10bruh. imagine what your trunks will look like if you only have a 55% or with one dupe kek
>>1900177He isn't lowercase for a reason. Trunks is about as bad as you can get without actually being a shitty unit you'd never run like the hall of shame, so he's in an awkward position for the playerbase who can't judge anything with the smallest bit of nuance.
>>1900210this is without str vegeta's support right?there's still hope...right???
>>1900015They simply don't care anymore, retards will still pull for the new Goku/Vegeta unit every year.
>>1900181WTF? He isn't a 30+ virgin like me??Ay caramba!
They didn't try with this eza. Usually they keep the spirit of the card. They could've kept the base form spam, but give SS a shitton of stats without additionals, just hits like a truck one time like LR tien or pikkon. So he technically has a lower peak but is much more reliable, and it fits the original theme of killing frieza in one attack. Instead they're the same except he gets guaranteed crits on the turn BEFORE he's built up. Bravo omatsu.
>>1900177no, he's the definition of okay. high enough attack stat that his frequent crits will deal okay but not exceptional damage, high enough evasion rates he's reliable but not so high he's immortal and thus will sometimes blow you up. trunks has a thing he's designed to do and he does do that thing to a decent enough level. comparing him to actual failures like jiren and black who were very literally unusable garbage on eza is not the go to complaint. he's disappointing, but he's much more comparable to ezas like lr super 17 than black and jiren.
We need a savior.
>>1900244>agl Trunks released instead of updating the LR's SA like Gohan and Majin Vegeta, almost impossible to see>LR Trunks gets a good SEZA and we're stuck with crusty 2017 animations foreverFor the love of God no.
Surely they fucked AGL Trunks' EZA so they could release a busted LR for him, right?
How do I build these gorillas? >Vegeta: Max ADD the rest in EVA or Max EVA and the rest in ADD?>Goku: Max ADD and rest in CRIT?
>>1900177Literally eza int Yamcha but worse. And Yamchad got his eza only 6 months ago kek
>>1900237>he's the definition of okay.and that's horrible for an eza. he's getting powercrept by the 11th anni in 3 months just like he did on release with red zone power creep
>>1900294max additional the rest dodge
>>1899959Baby got an incredibly fun f2p team to run behind him, so he gets my vote.Taopaipai seems like he'd be fun but fucker keeps dodging me.
>>1899966The SSBE Vegeta bit has me cackling.
your predictions for next year's unit roster?
>>1900250>crusty 2017 animations foreveryou mean SOVL
>>1900347Anon, I like that super too but it doesn't belong in the same conversation as this dumpster fire.https://youtu.be/VR6FVMFRBnM?si=u8s7u0eZ44La6tk4&t=31
>>1900309If they do another crossover event in November it should be DFE Shallot or Giblet in whichever form is most appropriate
>>1900250>>1900357i'll take units with pre agl metal cooler tier animations that hit like a nuke over ones that quad super for no damage and take a full minute to finish a single turn
wt trunks tur is about as good as the eza
>>1900379He's better, easily
>>1900375As someone who sees no value in Dokkan but animation/OST quality, I cannot agree with you. The gameplay has fucking sucked since Red Zone.
and just like that the f2p wt trunks replaced the dfe eza
soon
>>1900406It's great that he's comparable to the DFE's base with his full passive but he's not a replacement by any stretch.
>>1899959Favorite is Baby. Least favorite is Daimageta. I thought Vegeta was going to be a lot better than he turned out. I’m still hoping an adult Daimageta can redeem him
>7 DAYS of wthttps://youtu.be/cE0AgRdxWYg
>>1900454Oh god, it actually fucking is
>>1900454Wtf
>>1900463weirdest Global fuck up yet, maybe we'll get double rewards for doing the missions early
Am I going crazy? There was a world tournament link in the banner and I clicked it but then it went away. I panicked thinking I somehow missed the tournament.
>>1900463They set the start time at 12-12-2015 instead of 2025...
>>1900463dammit it's closedi could have grinded some rewards early
Wait where's the secret treasure chest for the weekly mission? Can't find it
>>1900463I bet some sweaties we're already past 30 million. How will i be compensated for missing all that?
it's honestly impressive how much of a fumble this entire year has been
>>1900484I'm not surprised desu. Game was never planned to last this long
There's no fucking way there's Trunks copers in here. Wtf level of delusion is this
>>1900471It's bugged. I've got the same issue.Make noise on plebbit so a bunch of them will send inquries. I'm too lazy, plus we might get compensation.
>>1900520No anon you don’t understand! He only has a 50% chance to take a million damage from the goku black aoe. He’s good! You idiots are just underrating him
>>1899959Tao>16>Baby>Cell>Daipashit
>>1899959None of them are worth stones.
>>1899959vegeta was so fucking horribly designed>put him in slot 1 or he dies>just kidding he will also die in slot 1 after more than 1 turn
>>1900471>>1900541someday you guys will learn to read, I believe in you
>>1900520It's coping to state the obvious that he isn't remotely as bad as int Black or str Jiren?
>>1900631Fair enough, but why fucking bother giving it us for a single week? What's the point if we still get tickets? Might as well do it to build up to the 11th Anniversary or not bother.
>>1900483Sync'd btw
>>1900631>nooooo you can't have those stones for december they're only for trannyversary!It's like they want us to skip everything else.
>>1900520poor bastard will become unusable in 2 months....
where's the next super eza goddammit
>>1900734Meta has gotten so insane they could give this guy unconditional 90% DR and he'd still get you killed somehow
>>1899791>dokkan world doesn't give him any "!" marks>datruth showcase not even out yetdire
>>1900470>"The status of completed missions will remain unchanged. However, even if the mission conditions are met again after the 61st World Tournament officially begins, you will not receive the mission rewards again."
Trunks living up to the jobber lineage. They accidentally made them good once by putting them together, then gave them a mid eza to compensate.
>>1900165Thanks, I went in thinking it was a 50/50, then found out it wasn't lmao
>>1900784i see 2 fishes
>>1900771being real here we know why truth hasn't done the showcase yet and it has nothing to do with the fact trunks is a mid eza and everything to do with the fact that he is strictly an evade-or-die unit and is constantly getting blown up proving truths evasion agenda was always retarded, and truth isn't taking the humiliation very well.
>>1900784talk about a shit your pants rotation
IT'S UP
>>1900795not pictured: lr trunks/gohan in their own tier above the rest
>>1900795>phy vb in goodEww.
>>1900795Half the mid tier is better than half the good tier. Stop posting retarded takes.
>went from uppercase to only uppercasing the first letterdamn he got demoted the more he used him
it's ok Trunksbros. Part 2 LR will be a Trunks -> Super Saiyan Trunks that completely replaces AGL Trunks. We'll get LR PHY SS Trunks' SEZA too. We'll be fine at the end of the month.
Trunks EZA
>>1900795swap ssj4geta and lr inthan
>>1900795>majority of eza/sezas in good or great tiergood year
>>1900806no the fuck they aren't LMAO
>>1900837>nuh uhStop posting retarded takes.
SOON
>>1900795eza ginyu is actually pretty decent at melting boss healthbars for mecrit + all type effectiveness is goated
>>1900838>can't name any fucking name half of the units that should be swappedYOU LOSE LMAOOOO
5 days until actual habbening (december LR reveal)
>>1900847I would have if you didn't have the disposition of a toddler. Rose, Paikuhan, Kid Goku, SS2 Goku and Boo, and arguably VT are all pretty mediocre. Super 17 (on 16's team specifically), SS4 Vegeta, MZ, and Janemba are as good or better.
>>1900795>agedoutventh years still in z tier
WHY DOES EVERY UNIT I LINK LEVEL 10 GET SHITTY EZAS
I'm unironically really pissed that Trunks' EZA is shit because that moment of him turning Super Saiyan in front of Mecha Frieza is my favorite moment in Dragon Ball.
>>1900846I think the Ginyu issue is he entirely is based on the team. If you don't have a lot of dupes in his banner units, he feels way worse.
whoops it turns out dokkanworld was pushing his agenda for views and trunks was actually the goat this whole time
trunks sucks
>>1900852only arguable one is ssj4 vegeta. the rest are wrong as expected
>Part 2 LR isn't Trunks but the entrance animation features him
tao killed trunks' eza designer
Why the fuck isn't the new Garlic on Heavenly Events while the banner unit is??
>>1900984Because the new unit is from the first movie which does not take place on the lookout and the banner unit is from the anime filler arc which does take place on the lookout
>>1900987Fucking hell you're right.
normal from zamasu after a triple super
if trunks permanently stacked attack and defense in base, had 70% dodge before attacking, and got 5% DR per attack and an extra 5% DR for each super within the turn he might have actually been okay. I'm pretty comfortable putting him in the worst EZAs of all time bucket
>wait for trunks to do the new broly red zone missions>he's horrendous and can't do anything>damage so low he's not even a glass canon optionsame because the unit was never good in the first place, might as well not exist
>>1900909Whatever you say, retard.
>Banner units hit harder that agl EZA FRAUDnksHoly shit what the fuck happened?! The androids EZAs were great why the fuck did they do this?
>>1901096I guess we needed to sacrifice a EZA after all the great ones i don't care about that unit so it's whatever
>>1901029>worst EZAs of all time bucketNo, he's still more than usable. They just designed him like a banner unit for some crazy reason.
worst EZA of all time will always be SS3 burori
>>1901083>retardlook in the mirror lil bro LMAO
>Eza trunks>Take him into event to try him out>Dieyup, never using this thing again. bye bye
>>1901152>nuh uhWhatever you say, retard.
>>1901156see >>1901152
>>1901158see >>1901156
>copy catyeah lil bro i'm the "retard" LMAOOOOOO
Someone who begs for an argument despite not being able to make one himself doesn't deserve more than mimicry.
>"begs for an argument">he's the one that started the engagement >his only "argument" against the tierlist was "nuh uh" >was laughed at for spouting some stupid opinion like super 17, zamasu and janemba being good ezas>"not being able to make one himself doesn't deserve more than mimicry" HOLY LOL just stop
>"LOL EXAMPLES PLZ">gets examples>"nuh uh, doesn't count">"I didn't say nuh uh, u did"You're not getting any more than the shitposts you deserve, retard.
>>1900852Super 17 is a sturdy wall, but he does no damage. SEZA S17 or the STR Double 17s will power creep him
>>1901178Being a wall is more than most of the good tiers I listed. SEZA Rose is probably the worst made slot 1 since int SS4, Boo lost his team, SS2 Goku can't transform, Paikuhan is dodge or die, and Kid Goku can only take about 5 million supers in his best case.You're right that 17 will be powercrept though, he has to the way the game is going this year.
FUCK YOU OMATSU
agl trunks is clearly meant for festival of battles
>>1901138Nah int black. Then ss3 brocoli then jiren.trunks might be the worst meh eza of all time thoughever. he's usable unlike those three trash units but holy shit is he not worth using.
>>1901209INT Black was usable in content specifically catered to him, at least.SSJ3 Broly quite literally went from>will killl your runto>will kill your runI do have a rainbow black, though, so that probably makes him not as worthless.
>>1901215There was no content for him. He was raped in every event when he came out.
>>1901235They literally released Blue Zones so he could hit his stupid "when fighting a super type" passive.He was usable for all of that celebration then died off when he wasn't explicitly shilled to for a bit.I'm not hailing him as a content clearer, but he was clearly in the team when you wanted to use Zamasu's full leader skill.
Finished Trunks.Waiting on powercreep for the Broly missions.How is everyone else doing?
>>1901243>but he was clearly in the teamNever had priority over any other unit
>>1901243Blue zones release 6 months after his eza (9 months on global) and he was dogfood in them. He was not usable short of hiding him behind 50 attempts of perfect rng.
>>1901366>He was not usable short of hiding him behind 50 attempts of perfect rng.so dokkan battle since 7th anni
>>1901243nigga are you senile he ezad wwc 2023 the only content was zamasu and omega and they both raped him
>>1901374Unrelated, half the endgame stuff they dropped was versus super types. Trunks was actually the last boss here. I do admit I forgot we didn't get blue zones proper until later, people just saw art with the blue boys in that styling and called it as such.You're thinking red zone which... yeah. It's red zone. It's versus extremes 90% of the time, save the Gammas and USS fights.
>>1901390those stages are from this gdc. back then it was stage 9 trunks and str vegito that wrecked his shit
>>1901346I took Trunks to KC Red Zone and he stopped being a bum on turn 7 so that's nice at least. I'd try him elsewhere but SV being his only 220% prevents me from trying most stages, praying the LR leads him and I pull it with tickets.We also got our burst coins and I finally have every OST.
>>1901397I know the rushes were added, the point was to illustrate we finally got super type bosses in the endgame outside the fighting legends. Content DID exist for Black.
>>1901401and he got raped in that content too so what's your point
>>1901405He was usable in that content, not great.Trunks is dying in content that came out 3 months ago because he's beyond dodge or die.Again, my Black was rainbow, maybe I'm biased, but his def actually got up to where he was slot 1ing easily vs super types after the first turn.
>>1901414in what, dokkan events? he could barely hit 600k by turn 5 nigga was not tanking slot 1 supers
You now remember Trunks in Z never really did shit after killing Frieza.
>>1901517Killed the Future Androids and returned peace to his timeline.
>>1901243You're the same guy that's trying to gas this shitty Trunks aren't you?
>>1901524>returned peace to his timeline lol
>>1901527Trunks and Black don't belong in the same breath.
>>1901527No, Trunks is mediocre, my point is that Black at least could compete in the relevant endgame when he dropped for content made for him.Trunks is supposed to be brought to a fight that cancels dodge when he's dodge or die.
>>1901583he literally could not compete in any stage at the time including the super stages. you have alzheimers.
lol
>>1901565Yes.>bu-bu-but Zamas-Super isn't canon.
>>1901600>I CANT ENJOY A SHIT UNIT UNLESS YOU GUYS ALL AGREE THAT HES GOODWhat causes this
Dunno fellas he seems fine to me :^)
i calculated his defense here to be 12 million. is my math wrong? 264888+200%+50%+50%+50%+50%+200%https://youtu.be/KbBxlXRlneU?si=6JBz61z7ijXJJTww&t=1031
Androids won.Saiyans lost.
>>1901658Yes. Supers are additive.13,626 (base+equip) x 5.4 (leader) x 3.8 (sot+bluegeta support) x 3 (attack) x 3 (received) x 3 (4x50% supers=+200%) = 7,549,349.Better than most people expect, and the 4 turn def would push it even higher next turn.
>>1901583I don't know what game you're playing but it's not Dokkan. Black was pure shit when he dropped and was useless in all of the content that existed at the time.
>>1901667he gets 200% twice even tho it says when receiving attack. the other 200% buff stays but eevn if it didnt 7.5m defense is goated. the hate is underserved
>>1901848The calc has it twice, for receiving and attacking. His problem is the base form, and they cucked him out of ever transforming on his second turn, unlike exchangehan who can do it with good rng.
>AGL Trunks isn't on Bond of Parent and Childi guess Bulma means nothing to him. Originally assumed that the only reason for this was because this card is from before we find out he's Bulma and Vegeta's son but TEQ Super Trunks isn't on BoPC either.
>>1901860where is it calculated twice?
>>1901936>x 3 (attack) x 3 (received)It's right there
>>1901860This, I would go so much harder in defending him if he could transform on turn 3 or do 20 million supers from the start.>>1901883The bond is only made when Trunks dies and Vegeta has a melty.
>>1901883I've seen some people say it's because Future Bulma is only represented through items at the moment.
>>1901883He barely gives a shit about her death in Super
