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WUWON
stella sora won
>>1932475
>>1932475Endfieldkeks... Is this the "next big thing"?
day 1 eos
>>1932475Now this is drama lmao
JAJAJAJ
Unironic monumental fuck up
>>1932475Arkeks? Just kiddin I'd rather see the game fail because of its content instead of fuck ups like this
how many people won't afford rent because of this?
Saintontas status?
WUON
>>1932490He FUCKING WON lmaooooooooo
>>1932490he is getting free content for the next whole month HE won
>>1932475So as I have read the PayPal method was taken offline in less than 1 hour and it only affects PayPal in the first place?The situation seem like overblown to me
>>1932494I can assure you being suddenly charged unpredictable amounts of money for some people is not "overblown" lmaoI'm willing to bet some retards are now overdrawn
>>1932475thank you mr. musk
>>1932494lol
>>1932497>Some motherfuckers are being charged a full paycheck or moreGoddamn lmao
>>1932494If it was Wuwa you'd be shitposting it to death Arkbro
You're playing endfield and this shows up on your order historyWhat do?
paypal revenue status?
>>1932501holy fuck Japbro going all in
>>1932501>you bought a jp wifesign me up
oh shit endministrator we are homeress
As a f2pGOD the Paypal fuck up (which is massive) is a GOOD thing to me. After they finally get this shit sorted out there's bound to be some sort of apology, probably like 10 free rolls or something.I do feel a tiny bit bad for the people who got fucked over by it and are going to have to deal with a bunch of chargebacks, but at the same time why the FUCK are you even TRYING to whale in a gacha within the first few hours? Have some fucking restraint.
>>1932506i'd for sure be fucking homeress if all the money in my acc disappeared because of a funny bug
>>1932501How much is that in real money?
>>1932507>like 10 free rollslol lmao even
>>1932507>some people losing their entire paychecks>10 rollsthe absolute state
APOLOGIZE
>>1932507They're gonna jew you and only give it to "affected accounts"
Hello, I would like to buy 1000 Origeometry.Yes, you can charge it to everybody else.
>expecting free shit for issue not affecting youyou are brown
The foreshadowing
>>1932514lmfao
>>1932513"Affected accounts" are bank accounts. They can't send gems to bank accounts.
>wuwa enshittening in full swing>snowbreak turning another flattie into a cow>damn, life fucking sucks right now. >look over at endfield bwosthanks for the silver lining, arkbwos.
>>1932475Why are these retards spending money on a newly released game on the first day anyway?
>>1932522You said it, retards.
>>1932475Is this how a game wins in the meme charts?
>>1932522i mean, the game should work
>>1932524I'm sure some people tried their luck after hearing you can charge from other people's accounts. The revenue is going to be insane.
>>1932519They'll have telemetry that tracks that sort of stuff anon, that's basic these days especially with live service games like these
>>1932527>telemetrywtf gachashit can read my mind now?
>paypiging for the boringest gacha shit bitchdeserved
>>1932528Anon-kun...
>>1932475>shiptrannygryph spagetti codeno wonder manjuu bend the knee like a BITCH to yostar and nexon
>>1932475This was all thanks to vibe coding btwIt's too obvious
>>1932501Joder ganaste la loteria
>>1932475>one anon wanted to troll other generals>this happenskek
Official Discord is banning people talking about Paypal
>>1932534thats endfield charging you 528k jpy, not giving you 528k jpy.
>>1932475kek dead on arrivalimagine being retarded enough to make actual good games like ex astris and popucom and then waste money on this shitslop gachacrap instead of investing back into the actual good games
>>1932536e.f.s. more like e.o.s.
>>1932537>2845 euros
>>1932536That's just going to be chum to the sharks, drama streamers will love it.
>>1932536I know it's a bot but
You are laughing! People will miss their bills and you are laughing!
stella sora won kekypow endkeks
Who won?Who lost?
I wish this happened to Hoyoslop instead. I don't really care about Arktroons that much.
>>1932546no matter who wins, we all lose
how much compensation can we expect from this?
is that a flatie?!?!!!!AIIIIEEEEEEE, MUMU, CHONG RELEASE YOUR ULT AND TITFLATE HER NOAH
ha take it poowa! we endfieldchads are winning in everything you have done, including user data leaks!
>>193254910 standard pulls
>>1932550I can't believe Lyfe got two weddings.
This is probably the dumbest mistake a game can do during launch. Literally having some payment methods bugged as shit
We deeply appreciate your monetary contributions.
Apologize to him
>>1932558i....kneel....brown king....
>>1932520>2025 is the year ML died>fate/go and /bag/gots reign supremeDaily reminder that chinks cannot create only copy
>>1932558vindicated once again
>>1932558>Does nothing>WinsI guess it really is just that simple
>>1932475>>1932176>tfw I was right even with "gamebreaking bug"
>>1932544I know!
>D-do nothing>mAKe GoOd GamEsGod I hope that glazer never recovers.
>>1932544They got what they wantGot sEnd to the Field.
endfield is boring. why were people outside of here hyping it up so much?
>>1932578they were too young to experience day 1 genshin back then
>>1932578It's polished xis. They literally have rain drops and footprints on snow and shit. It's peak quality gameplay.
>>1932578because it's a game that shits on self inserters like hoyo games so they're naturally compelled to hype the game up
>>1932475Stop praying for our downfall bros, it fucking worked...
>>1932578Hoyoslop fatique is real and they wanted an alternative, and Endfield is the closest one.
>>1932581Mate Genshin is only 5 years old. How more newfag can one get lmao?
>>1932586You had this coming for a looong time, arkniggers. You thought you were invincible, unlike Hoyo or even Mica? Think again.
Joke's on you xisters. Once the PayPal bug is fixed then it will be the game of the year.
>>1932573Lmao. Xhe really deserved it.
>>1932591Nyooooo *flop* *eos*
dramaGODS...doomGODS...I kneel
>>>/vg/554744365TRVKE INBOUND
The sad thing is that it doesnt affected the CN side so they will still be rewarded for fucking up regardless.Well more like sad to the westerners affected by this since I don't give a fuck about yet another Genshart clone lol.
>>1932599*affect
>transmiliaoh no how do we tell xer
>>1932598Same desu. The combat in Endfield is just too boring.
>dogpile on BA in the last thread>Endfield immediately implodesKek. Divine retribution
>>1932616>anon desperately wanted Endfield to be good to rub it in everyone's faces>immediately implodesMaybe next game
>>1932616we did nothing though
>The seiaGODS are hereRIP bozo, flopfield stole everyone's dollars to fund the next chinese re-education camp
I thought Endfield was just a GFL spinoff, it was that low on my radar and crashed into a tree
kono BAtroon totally samefagging ja nai btw
Platonic archiver thinking xe's hot shit, KEKYPOW
>>1932578It unironically looked good but that's where the positives end.People really fucking dig openwoldslop and this one was supposed to be at least partially different.
>>1932616if that's what you call a dogpile, i'd hate to see what you call a circlejerk
>>1932627This, pretty graphics but this is literally just hoyo copy paste with worse designs and appeal that only hardcore ak fans will digMaybe it would have been fantastic as a standalone 70$ buck gamei don't want to commit my time to it otherwise
>all these BAposting and still not a single sexo cunny artfake senseis
...
>>1932632Im a SeiagodNot a baggot
>>1932635never beating the secondarycuck fanbase allegations
>>1932632Everybody gets one
>>1932636Everyone knows thatThere's a reason there's so much posting and fanarts but the revenue never hits top 20
>>1932637MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODSSSSSSSS
>>1932636Meanwhile you literally got zero benefits from being a secondary in other communities.
>genshinGOD killer>ends killing itselfmany such cases
>>1932645STACYlumbina laughs from her throne
>>1932645Absolutely unironically just a small setback for globabs. Arcucks will keep worshipping their god and good graphics is enough to convince normalfags. After all it's still The Current Thing™.
>steals your money
>>1932652El Hideo Kojima de los Gacha Juegos
>>1932652this is how you top the memechartsi kneel!
>r/gachagaming - ESL and made up revenue numbers central
Damn Endfield is the best gacha game I've played.
*pffft*
I am from Mumbai btw idk if that matters
>6 years, just to fuck up day 1
I dropped BD2 for Endfield due to the censorship.
This is very exquisite. Thanks for the laugh, arknigs
t. kraut
>>1932650Call it cope or wishful thinking but this feels like an omen for an even bigger fuckup in the near future. Like Sumeru/Raymond-tier that's basically gonna force them to compromise their original intended vision
>>1932668Raymand didn't change anyone's vision retardbroEven cuckai 2000000$ skin had more drama.
>>1932671Isn't AK known for "muh story"? Did they keep that in Endfield?
ask any akfags if they ever read the story lmao
>>1932676AK gave chinese games the infamy of being worldslop, not even GFL got this reputation prior (because it certainly wasn't)
Every character's a furry in that Endfield game so easy pass in the first place. Also imagine playing another mixed toilet.
>4.7/10
MLfield
>>1932681>Blatantly ignores the top left portion of his screenshotTry harder.
first flop of 2026 lmao
>>1932688Ignores what?
Promilia when?
>PHACKED
>>1932475Holy shit Arknights is unironically going to EOS within a week.That's karma for you!
When's Endfield server opened?CN ranking: 18JP ranking: 24
crazy how AP unironically has better chance at success than AKE now
Endfield will still get 20m in the charts for the last few days of January. February will obviously get them to 40m at least.
>>1932683the mask looks so fucking dumbeven hoyoslop MCs dont do thisalready a blank slate, now without the eye that's one less expression
>[SAD NEWS]Endfield struggles on launch in JPSource: http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/292920
>Endfield will top the chart with stolen moneyHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dragon TravelerGODS
>>1932714Kekarooo
Did ZZZ instantly hit top 10 when they open servers? I know it made an absurds amounts of money at launch.
>>1932718ZZZ hit top 2 in CN with MiyabiWuWa hit top 9 in CN with Jiyan
>>1932719 (me)>with Miyabimb I mean Ellen, not Miyabi
>>1932711>Enfi is dead, but he's the weakest of the four heavenly kingspromiliachads wonntechads won anantachads won
Endfield isn't arknights so this doesn't reflect on arknights
>>1932711Unsurprising, the game doesn't have any clones of characters who were popular among Japanese fans in the original Arknights.
>>1932711
>>1932714>>1932716WHO THE FUCK IS DRAGON TRAVELER
>>1932718No idea but this was first day of wuwa on launch.
>>1932726Aislop idle autobattler
>tried endfield>somehow the combat is even more barebones than genshini'm still baffled as to how this is possible, but here we are.
>>1932727This is correctLeft is wuwaRight is zzz
>>1932475how do you even recover from this?
Why are we still pretending that AKE won't make money?
>[BREAKING NEWS]CN users are now experiencing being charged twice per transaction on Apple iOS store.
>>1932735>NOOOOOOO IT'S ONLY GLOBAL NOT CN>CN IS WHERE IT'S WHERE THE MARKET IS AT!!!!1!Well well well
>>1932734what matters is if it's making money 6 months from now
I don't see it getting any success, it's literally genshin, but with some half assed factorio slapped on top. Maximum chinese word vomit too.
>>1932734with how much akfags hype and shill this game, you would think it's gonna hit top 1 in cn and jp
I even saw posts on NGA prelaunch predicting "Douyin" hours
i wish they made dlcs for ex astris and popucom instead of this shithang all gachatrannies
Imagine installing Kernel level virus into your devices..
>>1932711based heartopia at #6
>>1932744what
apology livestream when?
Stella Sora had a better launch
Lol how is it not reaching rank 1 even in JP on release date? They paid so much money for marketing. I was getting endfield ad literally everywhere
flew too close to the sun. sad to say but hoyo is still king
>>1932751That isn't saying much
>>1932752Forget rank 1It didn't even reach top 20
>>1932756It’s the first update it’s probably gonna get top 10 or something. If it doesn’t reach 1 then it’s not making waves in the gacha space.
>All this stolen money, 20% percent of it ends up in Stella SoraThanks for the money, Arktroon
>AK famous for shipping garbage>trying to MLbait with endfield just to rugpull later with many coming male 6 starsglad it flopped
>Feels like Endfield came out too lateProject started around the same time as Wuthering Waves, but that’s already at 3.0 while you’re just opening servers. The longer a project drags, the more problems arise. Mobile game competition is fierce, players are pickier. Soon NTE, ANANTA, AP, Silver Palace will arrive, none look worse. Played 6 hours today: process too drawn-out. Optimization is top-tier, but content doesn’t fit the current lightweight mobile trend.
thank god AP have a proper publisher
>endfield already dropping to #24 in jp app store rankwas wuwa also this bad on its launch day?
>>1932771its not prime hours in China yet
>>1932773since fucking when chinks need prime hours to spend?
>>1932771>dropping to #24#24 is the app revenue ranking, dont confuse it with #3 (free app ranking) like in here >>1932711 because they are different
they can still make it to rank 1 with just 1 bow from Lowlight
updated rankingCN: 8JP: 10KR: 12
>>1932770This is what happens when you leave daddy Yostar for a second
>>1932752JP are waifufags. Endfield is for trannies.
>>1932724>nerfing her titsNo buy
>yos*arshill thinks he's slick
>wants more money>choose to self publish instead>gets major critical payment issues that could cause legal problemsArknigger? lostedYostar? wonned
Stella Sora > Endfield, the game for retarded faggots that deserve nothing but cancer and death to them and their entire families
to be better than eosfield you first need to be better than blue archive xis
Ananta, and maybe Silver Palace, are the only future big releases that won't flop. The rest is fucked.
>>1932800>yuri palace>slopnantakekkk
>>1932802didnt silver palace have a selectable male mc?
>>1932800if you saw the Ananta leeks you'd know theyre trying to pander to retards with those cringe ass official meme videos
Alright who's next on the chopping block?
>>1932803>didn't have selectable male mc in beta>the marketing and teaser all feature female mcthe game was made with female mc in mind but the tranny here will shill it as ML game kek
>>1932803Yeah, just like Stella Sora and Honkai 3rd Impact part 2.
>do nothing>win
>>1932810Blue Archive should die and make space for Stella Sora, it's so old and outdated.
>>1932811Nah Project RX will take its place. Stella Floppa isnt even on Nexon's radar.
>>1932806Based and canon ship.
>>1932812When is Project RX supposed to release?
>>1932812>3d slop le good!Ironically, KV and Stella Sora are the true successors
>>1932818And yes I'm sure those will totally take BA's place lmao.
>>1932819I mean, sooner or later they'll do it, lmao. How much longer does Blue Archive have? 3-4 years before obsolescence becomes really noticeable
>>1932822Gooks already see KV as game made by "traitors" so they're not going to touch that. How is JP taking Stella Floppa in terms of revenue again?
rankings are not updated retards, endfield should be rank 1 or 2 in a few hours or tomorrow.
>>1932825Anon even ZZZ got number 1 at this time during their most recent rerelease....
>>1932824good
>>1932825You tell em, xis!
>>1932819yeah? specially RX
>>1932829>put your faith in 3D slopngmi
stellarfloppa flopped xisters. even it's jp twitter account is losing followers
>>1932830AT is literally being made by the people that know what BA players want, RX is no different, you are delusional to think a great split isn't happening
>>1932802Those are the two that have gotten the most attention. Not saying they're good.
promiliabros..our release?
>gfl2, tof and ba somehow out of nowhere give gibs within 3 daysI thought this is mere coincidence but with BA also doing the same thing, are they really that afraid with Endfield?
>>1932842I don't play any of those but at this point I don't think anyone is afraid of Endfield bro.
>>1932842why would ba afraid of endfield? they have different audience
Endfield bros were acting cocky then got raped.
>>1932800ananta, roco kingdom, floatopia, animula nookheartopia is already topping the charts almost everywhere
>>1932842>ba somehow out of nowhere give gibsit's the anniversary period
>>1932852Ching Chong Nippon.
>>1932834>>1932847>Those are the two that have gotten the most attention.ugh... NTE?
>>1932852translate weebs
>>1932856>chinkrunes>weeb
>>1932822You say that, but FGO still dominates despite being WAY outdated compared to newer titles. It's nearly 10 years old, only like 9 months older than GFL
>>1932860gacha? mobile?
>>1932861You didn't pull for her?
>>1932859fgo has no competition in it's forte and media legacy, it's completely unreachable by any competitor either, it's always the exception to any rule you might want to applyBA isn't even remembered for it's story save for 2 or 3 volumes maybe what it does well (character designs) is not particularly innovative either, that's why one scores almighty high on the memecharts every single month and the other doesn't
So what are everyone's realistic predictions?Arknights is popular in China but never reached the same popularity in other markets, never catching on. Some characters notably caught people's attention such as Lappland or W but the story and gameplay shook too many people off and they were denigrated into just being some chink containment game instead. From what I'm hearing it's the exact same thing with Endfield.>Boring combat (Saw numerous Wuwafags saying it was too boring for them, even saw Genshinfags agree)>Story is grating, boring and goes on too long>Apparently the characters aren't that likable>Now a huge payment processor scam>But people like the graphicsFigure it will take off or this more orvless kills the hype flat? Will the Chinese fags like it or just stay in Arknights?
>>1932867If the story, combat, pulls per patch doesn't improve it will be dead in a yearspecially the story
lmaoglad i didnt even download this garbage
>>1932871What's that thing on the top?
Seems like a lot of people didn't know how wordy arknights writing is. It's worse than your usual chinkge.
>not even close to top1lol lmao
>>1932873Then a gachashill who has never played actual games will tell you gachas have good storytelling.
>>1932865FGO players are whales so it's no surprise that they earned a lot more than other japanese gachahttps://automaton-media.com/en/news/fate-grand-orders-average-revenue-per-player-is-incomparable-to-other-japanese-gacha-data-shows/
>>1932877yeah it has a lot of whales for a reason
>Very sad. Once AKE fans despised Wuthering Waves, now it’s their pacifierWhen revenue is low, they say “Wuthering Waves exploded at launch but later recovered, AKE can too.”When revenue is high, they suddenly claim victory, saying it’s better than Wuthering Waves (though unclear how).If mobile optimization is good, they say it crushes Wuthering Waves’ launch experience, while still hyping multipliers.Bad gacha pulls, long main story… all compared to Wuthering Waves launch.At first they looked down on Wuthering Waves, thought they had a thick fanbase and aimed at MiHoYo and Honor of Kings. Now when things go wrong, they cling to Wuthering Waves launch as comfort.Are the two launches really the same?Did Punishing Gray Raven + Arknights fans equal Wuthering Waves’ base?Did Wuthering Waves and AKE spend the same on promotion?AKE fans act like replicating Wuthering Waves’ reputation turnaround is easy, but it’s been over a year, Wuthering Waves has had three major updates. Stop sucking on its tailpipe and feeling proud.
Nice game
>>1932882chinks? copying? impossible!
about to play ZZZwhat am I in for, unironically? and yes ive never actually played any modern or 3d gachashit
>>1932889a lot of enemy sponges
>>1932889one of the best gacha of 2024
>>1932892lmao
>>1932892
>>1932889a game that at least has art direction unlike endfield
>>1932894>>1932895wuwaj**t dont reply to me
>>1932898Whatever you say mr. marketer Saheed.
>>1932881>arktroons went from "mihomo killer" to "well at least our launch wasn't as bad as wuwa"
The market doesn't want a game like endfield
>>1932889The most fun gacha and with the best character design for straight men.
>>1932904I don't remember wuwa fucking with people's real money.
>unlike wuwa, shippergryph will never, ever, kneel to ml friends to save their gamerip arknights franchisekarma for censoring all the CN gacha (thongs, panties, swimsuits, camera angles, etc)
If you asked me what kind of game Endfield even is I couldn't tell you. What were they even going for? Base building? Combat focused?
>>1932874How well is it in China
>>1932871literally what's even the point of doing this? To scare people pulling for 6 stars female just for them to ship her with random dudes later?
>>1932897wasn't ZZZ's original/main art director fired or let go?
>>1932910Wuwa did have some payments getting leaked during launch, but it was no where as bad as getting fucking overstaffed by your bank
>>1932781Latest rankingCN: 8 -> 8 (New)JP: 10 -> 9 (New)KR: 12 -> 11 (New)it's 22.03 right now in china and japan so i guess this is it
>>1932911So this is what karma feels like, huh.
Prominent Sensei really got ousts as an actual pedo.
So, what's the verdict on Endfield?
lmaoo
>>1932929Does this mean it'll rank even lower now?
>>1932928underperforming
>>1932929first ever launch with negative earnings?I jest but imagine if this was on a more common payment method than paypal.
>>1932931it's a pc purchase retard bro
>>1932874just realized they can’t use bad optimization as excuse for low revenue.
>>1932934it was >>1932735
>>1932929wait so people who exploited this get to keep everything? meaning F2P is even further behind now?
People who didn't abuse PayPal will literally never catch up now
>>1932945Nobody likes such a botched opening economy, people who get refunded have such an upper hand, gachas have never been fair but this will make people think its unfair.
>>1932929Inb4 negative currencies.
>Final ranking for the day>0 QQ hoursBros.....
It's concluded.Endfield did worse than Wuwa despite>no performance problems>high popularity of Arknights>female banner>worse gacha>less launch freebiesYour thoughts lowlight poster?
>>1932954what's the point of female banners when all of them are gonna get shipped with random faggots anyway.
>>1932954man i feel bad for all the engineering department busting their asses optimizing this trainwreck
>>1932929Holy shit
What a day huh
>>1932867if muh grafix was enough to make a game successful then Snowbreak wouldn't be where it is
uh oh
Cuckfield is better than genshin and wuwa, but still trash
>>1932889a fairly ok arena battler with solid designs but a very mediocre story and writing
>>1932968>do nothing>winblumineGOD
>>1932968>>1932972>release one trailer>entire gacha industry implodes
>>1932968
>>1932968BLUMINEGODDESSTHE FOUNDER OF /gdg/WE KNEEL
>>1932953>>1932954im genuinely surprised it could not reach rank 1 despite all that hype and marketing
Why would anyone whale in a game made for shipcucks? Expect wuwa to perform much worse after that shipping video. They deleted over 5k comments in bilibili btw.
>>1932955>all of themEven in OG Arknights this is only the case for ~4 girls
>>1932984nothing ever happens, women carry sales and as we all know women love shipping
>>1932980not even genshin could reach rank 1 nowwhy do you think AKE could
I need a gacha to stave off my suicidal thoughts. no open world slop, only turn based slop at most
>>1932988ZZZ just hit rank 1 like a month ago no shit people were expecting Endfield to hit it with all that hype
>>1932994>ZZZ just hit rank 1 like a month agokekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
now that endfield is endflop it's time for manjuu to capitalize on this, release a trailer and launch date you fucks
>>1932994they bought the ranking so hard even cloud version ranked higher than genshin lol
>>1932996AP literally cannot fail even if the launch is full of bugs, everyone that likes hot anime girls will forgive it, yostar and nexon will be in charge of the backend at the very leastLowlight wanted to be Dawei so bad and it blew in his face
>>1932909Release date?
In the end it all comes back to Azur Promilia, the reason for this general's existence...
>>1932800>censored palaceno thanks
>>1933001kvno..
>>1932999manjew would be god if they bring back good old star up feature so every 4* can become 5* later
>>1932999Toddlercon is going to get that game so many moralist dramafags it wont even be funny
>>1932968please come sooner blumineGODonly you can save gacha
>>1933005bachads will save it
Release day will not be the peak revenue ranking, it's usually on the 2nd or 3rd day. dumb wuwajeets.
/gdg/ is pro femc now? damn
>>1933000less than 3 weeks.
Wait how will Ananta be the savior of gacha if it's not a gacha?
>>1932968Releases the second trailerKills 4chan for a few weeksBlumine strong
>>1933008hey fuck you we're at worst into kindergartner role-play, not actual toddlers
>>1933013Ananta is ToF 2.0
>Release day will not be the peak revenue ranking, it's usually on the 2nd or 3rd day. dumb wuwajeets.lmeow
>>1933010stop noticing
>>1933017Then what is NTE?
>>1933021Worse lol
>>1933021Urban wuwa
>>1932889The mihoyo experience. The mc is a cuck who does nothing and is ignored for 90% of the story, the story itself is a bloated mess of dialogue that means nothing and leads nowhere, with 99% of it being characters standing around without any sort of animation. You can expect chinawank and mc wank later, which is really funny considering the story forgets the mc exists and then suddenly they are the key to everything.And how to forget the endless waves of shipping between the characters.https://youtu.be/9LffgQC0Y58https://youtu.be/vWIsejSRBqYThe characters are sexy, but you can only watch from afar, the story might as well be rated 6+ since nothing ever happens.The gameplay is simply pressing the buttons as they light up, there is about zero interactivity since even switching characters is done automatically, its about as "complex" as genshin.
>>1933021I almost forgot about that piece of shit. But Ananta still have the same energy though.
>>1933009when did this ever happen?
>>1932998>bought the rankingThis is some new level of cope
>>1933025I play wuwa btw and my favorite ship is brant and little kati!
>>1933030M-MLschizo!!!1
>>1933025WuwaGOD typed this
Why should i play [insert modern gacha here] if i can just play wuwa? They all follow the same steps as wuwa so why not just stick with the original
>>1933027Inside xis troony mind full of delusions
ZZZ will always be more ML than wuwa.
>>1933025I love the calcharoxdanjin ship btw.
>>1933036WiseGOD typed this
I see xisters are already trying to divert and damage control.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
>>1933040KEK
>>1933040normalfage, should be self-explanatory
>>1933040Male touching female is sexual harassment.
>>1933039They're embarrassingly obvious about it
>>1933036>>1933038>furshit Fuck off back to Twitter
>three endfield threads on catalogxisters.../v/ is having a blast shitting on our game.....
>>1933036So true xis! I specially like how pretty and detailed zzz models are!
>>1933038Rover could never
>>1933050what does wuwa has to do with anything?
>>1933049>yuri or ntrwhich one, white man?
>>1933049Yeah, Astra comes with Evelyn and Alice comes with Yuzuha. Two in one package while wuwa girls get forgotten after 1 patch and barely any way to interact with them after their patch lmao. I hope you enjoy the new shipping direction wuwa is taking, xis.
wise canonically buried his face into a pair of massive milkerscuckver could never
>>1933050All "select appearance" MC could never have that much pandering, hsr is somewhat anomaly in that regard.
aether, wise, rover, stelle, fagministrator, sensei, captain, commander and so on are permavirgins just like the people that pull for them.
"They are just good friends i swear"
>>1933055kek
>>1933009Mega copeOnly stuff that's going up like ZZZ and Limbus managed to get more money on non-launch days
>zzz btfo wuwa and endfield effortlesslyfunny, even if they kill zzz again with yuri (idols)
>implying it's yurishitkek
>>1933058>character standing next to each other>waaa cucked!!!Yuzuha is a good girl who celebrates her friend birthday meanwhile wuwa characters don't even have a birthday lmao. Also, if you want to play that game https://x.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1954847331238457359
yuri for male gaze = sexy, feminine womenyuri for troons = dykes
Pfft this moron thought i was playing wuwa
>>1933065> Brant standing next to Cantarella while barely wearing any clothesML game...
>>1933055zzzookeks LOVE this?????
>>1933069ML game saar
>>1933058
>>1933071They LOVE it indeed. Hoyokeks are gay as fuck.
>>1933058That's a gay manIt's how that lyncan homo is never shitposted about; giga homo.
>>1933065Fascinating how her top2 most popular doujins are Blacked and Manato
>>1933065>wuwa characters don't even have a birthdayIs this true?
>>1933080no, you're alone in this hsrbro
>>1933078Even more fascinating how you seem to know a lot about that.
>effortlessly>3 relaunches, 4th one is on the way
>>1933055https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/vg.vmg/image/xIhHHIzzH5dVaMRDhOAgSg/
>resident /zzz/ cuckposter is herecolor me surprisedyou have AIDS btw
>>1933078>non official doujin created by some random womenThere are more doujin with Wise but cucks would pick the ntr doujin
>doujin made by random foid is the proof the ship is popularlmao
why the FUCK do I get less rolls per dollar in endfield than in hoyoslop>biggest pack both cost~ 100 bucks>with first time bonus you get about 1/3 less rolls
Even HSR is more ML than wuwa
>>1933095you get what you deserve, kid
>>1933097TRVKE
>>1933097if you ignore 95% of the game
>>1933097>>1933100don't wanna talk about Arktroons anymore, xis?
88888
>>1933097Doesn't Hsr have official yuribait in their trailers ?
>>1933108hsr writer is literally a yuritroon lmafo
>>1933095i heard the monthly 5dollar is also worse on endfield>genshin and wuwa - 18.75 pulls>endfield - 12 pulls apparently
>>1933104nobody is denying cuckfield is a cuckgame but wuwa claiming to be ml game while doing less pandering than zzz and hsr is just pathetic especially after the recent official ship video.
god the /end/ general on /vg/ is in meltdown right now, the trolling is good
>>1933113less pandering = game's revenue is good
>>1933078Snowbro....try to make it less obvious....
>>1933113This>>1933121>goycattle eat up normalfag slopWow what a surprise
>>1933120>They don't even have lawyersAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wait a minute, when i read some shit about Chinks not using PayPal, while non-Chink players who did use it got full refunds and kept their loot.Wouldn't this make Chink players angry?
>>1933125>hoyotranny calls anyone goycattleheh
>>1933113>hoyoslops having more pandering than the game that forced them to be less blatant about cuckshipshit
>>1933129You really think i play mihomo games lmao? Holy retard.
>>1933117>checked /end/ out of curiosity>found thisKEKW
>>1933113>but wuwa claiming to be ml gameOnly you troons are doing that tho? Wuwa has always been mixed toilet.
>>1933132hoyotrannies just cant stop themselves lol
>>1933133It's mixed ML
>>1933137See? You troons just can't help yourselves.
so is OG azurlane the official game of this thread
>>1933139You can cope, but you know it's true
>>1933146And you can keep playing victim but everyone knows your posting style, troon.
maybe fishball made the right choice not trying to publish the game by himself>Root cause was Eagle Horn’s redis thread pool bug.>International version updated user agreement, forcing waiver of class action rights. Filing in California costs $5000+, so maybe this protects them.>But California SB82 (Jan 2026) restricts arbitration clauses, so Eagle Horn’s terms are illegal.>California Supreme Court defines mass refund loops as money laundering. Under unfair competition law, minimum fine is $200M.
I'm not up to date, what's gonig on with cuck zero nightmare story rewrite drama?
>>1933149
>>1933120
>>1933128Yeah, people got shit for free so expect the endgame to be an absolute clownfest for at least a year.
>>1933128Im not sure if it was chinks or elevens but some asians get mad at refunds happening in *other* region and demand gibs even when not affected
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=46045160LAD offline event is wildThis is the true ML experience
dramaless turn based gacha without 3d slop that aren't a second job?
>>1933162It was HI3 when Global got an exclusive event.
>itt people still excited for neverness to eoskek it's like you learned nothing from tof
>>1933120What does this mean
>>1933165Male Love stacies
isn't nte is full of shiptrash too? it's dead on arrival just like cuckfield
>>1933173its clear that those who shill nte never played tof
>>1933172Hi troon
>>1933173I like ML stuff but ML isn't why I'm interested in NTE.
proof NTE is not ML?
>>1933179drop your discord tag and I'll DM you. just a heads up tho, I might accidentally send you a dick pic on accident haha. hope you don't mind.
>anyone who exploited PayPal gets to keep everything Fucking hell. Why did they not roll back the server? You are pretty muched eternally fucked because people have thousands of free rolls
>>1933186It's ok when Arktroons does it
>>1933186who the fuck cares? the game is at risk of going EoS right now if PP decides to sue
Yup, I'm fucking done with this piece of shit
>>1933190what's wrong faggot
>>1933111it also costs close to 7 yuros for me compared to 5
>>1933190Play Homo games win Homo prizes
>>1933192I'm not a faggot so I'm not playing when they gave me a 6* faggot instead of a hot chick
>>1933195boo fucking hoonext time dont pick up a mixed toilet game then cry about getting aids
>>1933091but when its wuwa fan creations suddenly its canon right?
>>1933199wuwajeet, that doujin isn't commissioned by zzz
>>1933173NTE explicitly banned any and all talk about ML and pandering on their official forums, shipping discussion and fanart is allowed though. Take that as you will.As an aside, Kuro banned shipping for PGR, but NOT for wuwa, people are allowed to talk about and post shipping in all official forums and channels, funny huh?
>>1933199>fan creation>sponsored by kuro>posted in official channel caused huge melty in chinalmaoml game
>>1933199it's okay because hoyo also put them in-game
>>1933202What were they thinking with that decision?
>>1933199>>1933204kek hoyotroons are hilarious
>>1933186They should had deleted everyone progress and refund all the money, then give some freebies and a 5 star selector, its that easy.
>>1933199ZZZ is a cuckege and will always be a cuckege but its a cuckege that has more for (you) pandering and fanservice than WuWa and seems to at least to respect the turbo for (you) girls like shunguang, also the Danjin x Calchud "fan" animation and the Luuk and Shorekeeper art were commissioned by Kuro themselves pic related
>>1933210>seems to at least to respect the turbo for (you) girlslollmao
>>1933205I respect that desu. They know what their game is, what crowd they're going for and never made any attempt to rugpull anyone like for example hiding the males.
Nah, you don't get it. It's okay when hoyo does cuckshit because they throw ML fags a bone at least once a year.
Wuwa will never be more ML than ZZZ. Every single playable character canonically has been (you)r room while cuckver never even interacts with some resonators.just cold hard facts.
>>1933210>ZZZ is a cuckege and will always be a cuckege>butfucking kek
>>1933210i don't play either mihoyo or kuro games, but i know a bit about some wuwa characters (because of the trailers). is there any girl in zzz or in hsr that has been sucking your dick through countless iterations for the last 10000 years or whatever like shorekeeper or camellia?
>>1933210kek you lost, troon
>>1933215>its ok for these 10 girls to cheat on me>multiple times even>because that one other girl sucked my dick onceyou hit the nail in the head, those mihomo players will never accept that they are proud to be cucks. same with brown dust 2 or nikke players.I don't even need to mention arknights or limbus players
this is (you)?
>>1933218>cheat on meYou are the same as average shiptroons. Two characters standing or talking to each other doesn't imply they're fucking.
>>1932726It's the game ML bros deserve.
Is this how all zookeks are like?>>1933220lmao
>>1933222holy aislopa
hoyokeks getting comfortable
>>1933222You've already posted about it AIbro. Nobody cares about your AI kusoge.
>>1933222>Squirrels touching one girl's tits and ghosts groping another'sHoly ntr
>>1933220Even when rover had to be rescued 3 times during 2.7, he never looked this hapless. humiliation ritual, indeed.
Don't let the zzzookek making a fool of xemselves distract you from the fact that deadfield managed to have the most disastrous big gacha launch in history. Nothing will ever come close to bank account gacha
>>1933210>>1933214>Day 20: share your favorite shipHas mihomo told their players to share their favorite ship like wuwa?
>>1933233>fan made eventI can smell you all the way from here, xis
>>1933213if a cuck troon infested company like mihomo is doing better fanservice and waifu pandering than your game, there is something really wrong inside your team, I bet some diversity hire feminist from tencent was forced upon Kuro and approved all the art>>1933217>Art commissioned and approved by Kuro >y-you lost, troonOk?
>no fanart>badly optimized>no hang out mechanic>no date events/ events are mostly about random npc or combatslop>new region flopped hard>pandering more and more to shipcucks>b-but it's okay because rover is 1 million years old literal god!!! and girls like him for (ONE) patch and fuck off foreverPeak ML game sisHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>1932863r1999 deserves everyone's money, especially for this literal succubus
>>1933231Is zzz with its soon to be 4th relaunch worse than endfield stealing people money, and then not banning the accounts that exploited the paypal stuff to have infinite rolls?
>>1933235Hey there sister, are you going to comment on this very in the game scene? >>1933199What about this in game illustration? >>1933049Is this supposed to prove that zzz isn't a cuck game?
ML game saar
>>1933236BASED
just one more relaunch bros
>>1933235>if a cuck troon infested company like mihomo is doing better fanservice and waifu panderingI don't know man. this>>1933049is pretty bad. the male mc is literally sitting in the dark, in the cuck chair.
>>1933199Thats the reason i never played zzz just look at this normalfag shipfsggotory.
So if I'm getting this correctly, Wuwa despite being mixed toilet mindbroke the troons.
>>1933231akfag called in a favor from hoyofag.
never forget
>>1933247It's because wuwa treats rover with a modicum of respect even when rover is depowered for the sake of having other characters save him.Meanwhile, for hoyo MC, it's a non stop humiliation ritual.
>>1933240>>1933244I already told you retards that ZZZ is a cuckege KEK i dont play any mihomo game and i would never do but i used to play WuWa and it was supposed to be different and "based", I dropped the game when Brant was forced into the fusion meta and because Zani looked like a dyke btw now you fucking retards got what you deserve >>1933235 >>1933233 good luck becoming what you hated most, keep slurping Solon dick
>>1930521>go to new place>meet new female character>"OH MY GOD IS THAT ROVER-SAMA THE GOD EMPEROR CREATOR PUSSY WOMBSLAYER EARLY BITCOIN ADOPTER CHADGOD OF DESTRUCTION THE FIRST RESONATOR, THE FIRST INSTANCE, LORD ARBITER, ASTRAL MODULATOR, CHIEF STEWARD, FOUNDER AND LEADER OF THE BLACK SHORES, SAVIOR OF JINZHOU, STAR, DREAMWALKER, GUIDE OF CIVILIZATIONS, SEED OF FATE, MASTER, RIGHTEOUS ONE, FATED ONE, SAVIOR OF THE MONTELLIS, CAT’S EYE, MIGHTY GODKILLER, ETERNAL ALLY OF THE FIASLIAS, CHAMPION, HADRIAN THE FOURTH, APEX DUELER, WARRIOR, LAUREATE OF RAGUNNA, CHAMPION OF SEPITMONT, FAVORED GLADIATOR OF ARSINOSA, HONORED GUEST FROM AFAR, THE UNWRITTEN ONE, HERO OF HEROES, ROSEBEARER, YOUR GRACE, INITIATOR, HONORED ONE, HERALD OF HOPE, SENPAI, DARK LEGEND OF JUSTICE, CLASSMATE, THE DARK THUNDERBOLT, AND VOIDWORM RIDER ALPHA SIGMA MALE TOP G OMEGA OVERLORD INFINITY PLUS ULTRA MAX??!?!>THE ONE PROPHECISED TO SAVE THE WORLD SINGLEHANDEDLY?!??!!?>every man kneels>red carpet rolls out>trumpets play>"YOU ARE THE PROPHECISED HERO! THE GOD OVERLORD KING OF KINGS! YOU ARE TO SLAY THE BIG BAD EVIL GUY!">mentioned exactly once before>big bad appears>"HAHA!!! WE ARE EVIL AND WE ARE HERE TO *twirls moustache* DESTROY THE WORLD!!!!">beat them in 2 minutes>Cristofaggot appears>"NYEHEHEHEHEH!!!">*tips bicorne hat*>"ALL ACCORDING TO MY KEIKAKU SAMA!">disappears through his SPACE PORTAL>every woman undresses>"I HAVE LOVED YOU SINCE BEFORE THE VERY IDEA OF THIS UNIVERSE STARTED PLEASE FUCK ME RIGHT HERE AND NOW!">go to next region>never interact with previous cast again>rinse repeatKEKAFUCKINGROOOOOOO
>>1933222game?
>>1933256KEK ITS TRUE
>>1933255>i used to play WuWapost your playtime.you won't
>>1933257Don't bother. Or just read the reply chain.
>>1933255at least you quit before the game turned into cuckfest lmao
Jesus I check back in and it's>But what about ZZZ!?>But what about Wuwa!?>But what about Genshin!?>But what about HSR!?>But what about Hoyo!?>But what about ML!?They're deflecting so hard it's like a shrapnel grenade
so now that endfield is dead on arrival what's our next target
>>1933263hoyotroon running hard interference for endsissies kek
HG employee working overtime today
>>1933263hilarious
>>1933233opposite, mhy is actively censoring the VA's from making or reposting any shipping art the last month nowtoo much drama from the mentally ill twitterbase likely or even chinks on tieba
>>1933264your mom
>>1933264Depending on who releases first: Azur Promilia, Ananta, NTE or Silver Palace
>>1933252>genshinjust a "witness">hsr>garbage-loving raccoon>zzz>>1933049>>1933199>>1933220
>I’m increasingly convinced that for multi-platform games, you can’t just look at iOS anymoreWuthering Waves 3.0 on Steam has had almost the same long-term momentum as Delta Force over the past 30 days.It stayed above Top 50 the whole time.At this level, it’s almost catching up to overseas iOS revenue.
>>1933264>ourNYPA.
>>1933259I played the game before the steam release and dropped the game before the 2.0 and rinascita, I remember that they added more "meat" to cammy model and her breast and ass was bigger, I deleted my account and i let 30 days pass when it got revealed that Brant was a fusion support character, I didn't want to be forced to use MY Changli with repulsive homo
Good for you because even Shorekeeper is married now and wears a ring
wuwa actually improved animation for launched characteranother W for kuro
>>1933222>Dragon Soul Travelerohhh the game looks interesti->FEMC>Playable males>Furries>NTR>hard yurishitKYSYS
>>1933284>uhh uhh i dropped the game in 1.x>uhh uhh I deleted my accountuh huh.
>>1933218>these 10 girls to cheat on meName them all, xis
>>1933261Can you post these so called cuckfest moments? With a screenshot or video from the actual game instead of fan art?
>>1933264Promilia is going to wait until everything else has released to avoid their mistakes, so either ananta or silver palace. NTE is already dead before release.
>>1933284azur lane would probably give you a panic attack
>>1933290And that AI troon is saying this game is for MLfags. Xhe doesnt even know about its AIslop.
>>1933288wuwa releases QoL every patch, and has added a new map every version too except for 2. genshin, the so called "open world" gacha often goes 3 or 4 versions without a new map, and lets not even talk about QoL.
>>1933295>azur laneYou mean literally every gacha. Every gacha with lolis has aged them up, except BA I think, but then again that game releases like 10 hags for every loli.
>>1933293here >>1933280 these are all in-game btw
>>1933299>post AI slopWow, you sure showed them wujeets good sir.
Endshill going nuts
>>1933302Sorry little bro, I was asking for wuwa. I see all these mihoyo and HG players trying to shitpost that wuwa is a "cuck" game now, and I haven't seen a single screenshot or video of it. Plenty of evidence for mihoyo games, as you posted, and I don't even have to ask for arknight stuff.Just curios, were is all these cuck moments in wuwa in the game?
projection at its finest again
>>1933304Made by the Chinese. At least ZZZ never had any NTR drama like your cuckgame.
>>1933307NTA but here is one shipait in-game >>1933073
>>1933307they want wuwa to be like their cuckges soooooo bad so they don't feel alone
>>1933299This became trending because one of in-game voicelines btw
>>1933313
>>1933316even just in this general, it is already so obvious that mindbroken hoyokeks will scrape barrels
>>1933319it's another rerun of hoyotroons spreading fake news just like AIfication of mornye art before 3.0 lollosing TGA really mindbroke them
>>1933317You now that there is trope in romantic relationships were they say they arent that close right? also what is the intention of pulling a text like that in-game implying they are really close to each other?
>paypal drama>meanwhile CN players are begging for a comeback similar to Wuwathe game flopped in CN
How is Arknights?
>>1933311>At least ZZZ never had any NTR drama like your cuckgame.Not drama, just normal NTR because it's expected from Hoyoslop. Especially turds like Zoo.
>P-please forget our game is a dumpster fire... L-let's make fun of wuwa again b-bros...lol nahbend over endfield cucks
>>1933321kek i wonder how the xjj reacted to TGA
>>1933323it's not possible, HG is just as arrogant as MHY, they suppressed all the bad press during 3rd CBT just like ZZZ, wouldnt be surprised if they delete that garbage grid like gameplay before 2.0
>>1933326They had the literal cuck chair image lmao
DID SOMEONE SAY KEK CHAIR?!
So HG is not gonna give any compensation at all?I guessing HG will be the same as Hoyo with the game being stagnant
As a day 1 EoSfield hater, I am extremely pleased with today's events
>>1933333>>1933335the true nature of hoyoslop
>>1932520>snowbreak turning another flattie into a cowUmm but that's a W
>>1933328I can multi-task bro, I can make fun Mihomo, PooWa and Arknots at the same time dont worry
>>1933341>I can make fun MihomoAh yes the classic "ZZZ is cuckge BUT-".
>>1933222>Sloppity slop>Footfaggotry>Last oneSasuga
>>1933322>trope in romantic relationships were they say they arent that closeexcept that trope needs them to be shown to be actually close before the denial part>what is the intention of pulling a text like that in-gameworldbuilding. 1.0 characters(yes this mortefi homo was not the only release chara who got mentioned in this new region) who went to lahai-roi getting mentions. if this were the shipshit you expect it to be they can just have the two actually interact
I know you wujeets are mentally ill but I don't expect it to be this bad. You're reaching hard by depicting sitting in a chair wtih 3 cute girls in your room is getting cucked while your game has this blatant shipshit >>1933235
Sit down zootroon
>>1933346lmeow go back >>1933199
>>1933324LOLLMAO
>>1933346They only returned to their roots (PGR)Liv: "…Is this considered love?"Guinevere: "It is love." Guinevere: "Whether it's love—or rather, the emotions that encompass love—it's complex and contradictory." Guinevere: "Like those two over there—" Li: "Are you talking about Watanabe and Bianca?" [Option]: "Aren't they finished fighting yet?"
>>1933353deleted btw
>>1933336Incorrect, Hoyo is actually afraid with the backlash from the fuck up as it will affect the current and future games and didn't shy to give the compensations.
Endfield is flopping this hard and you monkies just continue on about wuwa and hoyo? What is wrong with you?
>>1933354That's exactly the point. If they can delete it in PGR, why can't they it in wuwa?
>>1933357There is no fun in kicking a dying dog
>>1933357truth is HG has no fan or anti fan in globalso who cares
>>1933348>still reaching this hardIf you actually played the game, they never even had any physical contact other than the catfaggot getting kicked in the stomach by Jane. They also never interacted at all after 1.1.
>>1933335>>1933347Dottore is ML coded He won't (You)
>>1933227Kino/10
>>1933354>deletedquick rundown?
>>1933357my bad. hoyocucks got comfortable after the previous thread when they had their turn to shitpost. just reminding them of their roots. i will shut up
>>1933357glad that they are flopping because they brought fujo and shiptroons into gacha but wuwajeets here thinking their game any better is just cope lmao
>>1933365>Dottore is ML codedSo the main push girl of the region is a carpet muncher and the male antagonist wants the DThat's just depressing
>>1933357This is a WuWajeet/Mihomo/Snowbreak general if you couldnt tell
>>1933364Nice cope.
>>1933374Yep.
>>1933367picrel and community backlash explains it all
>>1933353ZZZ is a cuck game because...>b-birthday art has them standing next to each other!!>he's sitting in his computer chair watching cute girls bickering in his room!>h-her ears twitch a little!!! she wants to fuck him!!!!But wuwa has this guy doing princess carry on a female character..and kuro past history is like this >>1933353>d-doesn't count!! WUWA ML SAAAARSure...sure.
>>1933358wuwajeets your response?
oh yeah wuwa will have livestream todayits time for them to get all the disappointed endfield player to play wuwa
>>1933380>ZZZ is a cuck game because...I would say was as in past tense giving the whole deal with that rat girl.
Endfield is really boring. I droped HSR but the game got my interest immediately on the launch day, despite its "boring" gameplay.Meanwhile Endfield:The starter characters are the most boring slop "waifus" that I have ever seen. The worldbuilding is super generic.Too much systems and menus.No wonder it's a flop.
>>1933374TRVKE
>>1933378>>1933385It's funny how Genshin doesn't get half the shit ZZZ gets when they spent 28hrs of archon quest on yurislop.
>>1933380If we're taking past history then Hoyoslop takes the crown.
>>1933358>>1933381
>>1933386only because zzzkeks are still coping and in-denial
>>1933386The last archon quest also had a Varka/Nicole shipbait and no one gave a shit and because all ML schizos left to wuwa
>>1933391Oh boy this thread has really put into perspective how pathetic zookeks are, no wonder they had the dogfucker among their ranks.
Speaking of drama is it true Sakurai left Typemoon/FGO?
>>1933396Who left what?
So what's the verdict for Endfield? It's visually cool but that's all there is to it?
>>1933394Nobody care about Nicole because Alice stole her limelight and the Shipbait with Varka was just some "spice" from the localization team which is why most of the shipbait art is from the west, Sandrone and Columbina however.....
>>1933386Seeing Columbina's numbers, every MLfag probably jumped ship already
>>1933397Female shipfag writer who loves making OOC servantxservant ships.
Even if you combine all wuwa females, none of them come close to Yuzuha. All the same boring personality, no banters, just awkward solo leveling glazing. If you consider a female character talking to another male character is cucking, you might as well play snowbreak at that point.
the more i read this thread the more i realize asian incels are at the top of the food chain puppeteering corporations while the western incels are second class citizens
>>1933401Why would they roll on /u/shit? >>1933378>>1933385
>>1933388Lol that was years ago when Kuro still listened to backlash from community. But now? They don't change Brant's voicelinesThey don't delete the fan videoThey don't delete the fanartThey don't even listen anymore because you got wuwashills who will defend it
>>1933399Pack it up boys tier
>>1933388Kuro is so spineless Klee has a whole harem of males close to her no one ever gave a shit.
>see female character being close with another female character>first thought is I'm getting cucked instead of a threesomeJust your average wuwasaar.
Sci-Fi gacha are all boringOnly Fantasy gacha are goodIt's not that I inherently prefer fantasy in general but asians seem pretty bad at doing sci-fi
>>1933412What a weird thing to post.
>>1933409Are any of these serious or is it just minor nitpicks that are being used as shitpost?
>>1933396Really? fuck i wanted her to ruin Tamashit even more and ship her with Seimei just for the lulz
MLtroons behave the same way as shiptroonsreally makes you think
>Check /gdg/ to see their reaction to Enfield launch >wuwajeets and hoyocucks with their tribalism bs throwing poo at each other Sometime i wonder how old you guys are...
>>1933405I remember /r9k/ talking about the beta uprising but it never happened the west has fallen lol
>>1933420They brought in Hakuno in GO a while ago.
>>1933423I'm 31.
>>1933419Zootroons grasping at straws, as always
>>1933357hypergryph unironically got karma for all the shit they did to chinese gacha (killing fanservice, wanking gacha males, etc) if mihoyo and kuro are obsessed with the normalfag bucks is thanks to arknights (loved by normalfag chinks)
>>1933419>minor nitpicksit's a big drama in wuwa cn for the last few daysjust check the previous thread
>>1933423All the relevant shitposters are in the Endfield general instead of here
>>1933236AAAAAAIIIEEEEEEEEE NICOLEGOD
>>1933357It's just normal tranny game suicide. What is there to say?
>>1933357We need to divert the attention even if there's nothing else to talk about the games we hate, like Wuwa.
>>1933236>jeets are too scared to reply to this
>>1933423I've been following /gdg/ this past month out of sheer bafflement on how browns act. There's no soul, they're a form of mycelium
>>1933236delete saar
>>1933437based ML bro
>>1933436I wish the middle east, SEA and Europe disappeared.
>>1933423At least they're paid to shitpost unlike us.
Rover and Wise gay sex
>>1933438the smiley should be brown
>zzzookeks gladly sacrificing their game to be shitposted just to protect their shiny new furfag game>>1933447https://youtu.be/MGj4DsIu-zw?si=EHsSN86nKDz4Cnzc
fartnights snoozefield
>>1932520>snowbreak turning another flattie into a cowbased>check it out>only b~c at best>can freely switch between her normal and new formSo a nothing burger.
>>1933451same. i don't see the problemnot like the flattie form got deleted
Time traveller here. When Azur Promilia gets released an orbital strike will be shot at each player's location due to an exploit.
>played for 6 hours, dont have enough for a 10 pull on the redhead>no apolopulls for stealing peoples money>finally get a the begginer 6 star, its an indian shota with a robot arm and worse gameplay than the 4 starsgrim
>Trickcal wins by doing nothing
what happened to the prophets saying endfield release will mindbreak great dudes general?
kekhttps://youtu.be/kRhG9wWs6Uw?si=JhrN63a2SQr73ly3
WHERE'S THE DRAMA, I NEED SOME SHITUBERS THROWING SHIT AT THE WALLPOST THE FUCKING DRAMA
I'll post a cum tribute to the pink endfield slut if that counts
KEEEEEK
This place is like a zoo i like it.
>>1933380>But wuwa has this guy doing princess carry on a female characterCan you show me a screenshot of that happening in game?
He was right all along, he called it word for word since the first beta
>>1933420She already ruined plenty of shit, there's no saving her characters. Even if not in game, in the lore books (Nasu also added tons of ship and cuck shit to those too for some godforsaken reason)
>>1933462Doing nothing except being the single gacha in the market with SOVL
Little Katy status?
>>1933462TrickGODS
>>1933475I knew this retard reminded me of someone
>>1933357Because hypergryph shill is the one deflecting, bro.
Was there any follow up on Endfield or are you still letting ML live rent free in your heads?
>>1933487Endfield is not ML, whats with the non sequitur lil sis?Are you thinking of wuwa?
no no no, its zzz the one that is ML, don't you see?
>>1933475>>1933485based wuwabros defending mixed ML(they don't know about arknights cuckshit)
>>1933490Why is getting cucked the only thing that comes to your mind when you sse two characters talk to each other?
>>1932929Now I feel like a retard for not using paypal
>>1933471Blood or no balls
>Thread shitting on Endfield for their major MAJOR fuckup>650 replies>500 in the last 12 hours>Most of those are desperately talking about anything other than the fuckuplol
Genuinely and unironically what's the appeal of being a shill for free? I see everyone in the Endfield thread shilling their gacha like "come home bros" but what do you gain from tribalism without even being compensated? Defending a game or shilling it just for the love of it?It's not even for the sake of loving the (shilled) game, but some weird sense of superiority like in console wars but for what?
>Endfield is somehow more dull, boring, and lifeless than GFL2Man, I just want a good game...
>>1933498consider anything but gachas then
>>1933496Wuwa is shit and a cuck game, zzz is super ML despite some light NTR elements. Lets keep talking about that.And yes, I am not going to post evidence about wuwa being NTR in the game, and I am going to ignore the evidence that zzz is a cuck game.
>>1933497Look here nigger, I'm on payroll right now and instead of working I'm shitposting here, its fun, like talking about whatever with friends in a park just passing the time and drinking a beer.When a game is doing well I'm going to praise it, when its doing bad I'm going to shit post it (I like wuwa and I still shitpost saying its cuckshit because of the fanarts).
>>1933498redeem wuwon saar
>>1933501Then you're a terminally retarded trash
>>1933498I hold out hope for Ananta being fun.
>>1933498Even then GFL2 only truly felt dull and boring after a few months in.Endfield feels dull on day 1...
>>1933498>He's still playing gachas
People are already blocking others from shipping Endmin x Perlica (the main girl), because in a flashback voice line (which can be missed) in the prologue, we learn that Perlica was named by Endmin, and so for them she is daughter-coded, like amiya, and must not be shipped with the MC.
>>1933507Why is it always the same tranny? Are you just screenshotting your own posts?
>>1933507Ohhh they have familial bonds instead of ML like GFL2, cool, I'm going to play it then
>>1933500some hoyofags are just so mindbroken by a game that doesnt even make 25% of what they do in the memecharts
>>1933507>and so for them she is daughter-codedI love when my daughter gets flustered when another girl talks about how she had been waiting for me for the last 10 years I was comatose. Family!
>accidentally forgot to keep Kommy off my Dreamland teamI love you Kommy but you are quite literally the worst candidate for this gamemode
Endfield is refunding ALL PURCHASES made with Paypal so anyone that whaled with paypal got a fuckload of free shitMeanwhile those who didn't are getting jack shit
Yes sirWuwa ML game
>character talking to each otherLight ntr sir....>pic relatedNO SAAAR FAN ART SAAAR WUWA ML GAME SAAAR
He's freaking out again lol
30 minutes into Endfield and I'm still in the intro. Dogshit game.
>>1933523>>1933524It's amazing how the same scaraschizos are invading wuwa now complaining about shippers while acting exactly like how shippers would
Good morning saaars play wuwa game very ML
Yes saaar, it is necessary to sit that close to each other saar.
tga and ef bombing mindbroke them
>>1933498Just like the other anon said, I deposited the last bit of hope I have on Ananta. If even Ananta shits the bed, then I'm quitting gachas for good, because fuck chinks and fuck ChinaI might stick with BA though
>>1933537Cunny archive is the last based gachaEverything else is hagslop with garbage gameplay and worse gachas
It's over
>>1933521Well, yes. But can you look into the future?No one could've predicted this. Is dumb trying to get dumb over what-ifs.
WuWacuck mind be like>>1933490>HAHAHAHAH TWO CHARACTERS STANDING NEXT TO EACH OTHER KEK KEK>>1933524>H-He is just walking her home gently saar
>>1933496Shitting on poowa is always morally correct.
>>1933537First of all, ananta isn't a gacha.Second of all, it has that light pandering in which nothing ever happens, even blue archive has more pandering and fanservice
>>1933544>Still 20 days leftF
>>1933550>one is in game>other isn't>lets ignore every other picture posted in this threadsure sis, very convincing
Enfield is directionless, boring, apparently has way too long of a tutorial, a terrible gacha system, has terrible combat, shook a lot of people's trust in it, has a shit story and has to contend with growing gacha fatigue.Unless they change pretty much everything I don't see it taking off very well at all, even in China.
>>1933507>NOOOOOOOOOO SHE'S THE ENDMIN'S DAUGHTER SO YOU CAN'T SHIP THEMDon't care, just wasted 10 gallons of water to generate this yuri pic
>>1933558Apparently once you finish the extended tutorial, which lasts for over 10 hours, and you get to the second area, the game improves, but I'm not wasting my time verifying that.Other gachas that have shit story in their first area have at least decently fun gameplay (for a phone game) to string you along.
>>1933552>Ananta isn't a gachaWait, it isn't?
>>1933578is not anon, you buy clothes
>>1933558You forgot one thing, the most important thing for a new gacha: shitty one day rewards.You can't even guarantee the Laevatain whore without being extremely lucky and swiping a little bit.
Just uninstalled Arknights, back to waiting for AP
They are making fun of wuwa in every social web becasue endfield optimization destroy kuro
Apologize.
what was the bigger flop stella sora or endfield?
>>1933596wuwa
>>1933596By budget and marketing, endfield
>>1933594My apologies, Venkateswaran. Hope this makes you feel better.
>>1933596I doubt Stella Sora cost that much to make, it doesn't even have voice acting lol. And Yoshart was never forced to refund people everything they've spent while letting them keep the goods.
>>1933596If Endfield keeps fucking up it'll be the Concord of gachas. I don't think it will tho.
>>1933596DNA
Endfield has one of the worst intro I've seen in a long time, and I don't mean just by gacha standards. Send those guys to design school.
>>1933596endfield, yostar only made a game (stella sora) for imaginary female sensei/female commander players
So, pretty much every single gacha after Wuwa and ZZZ releases have shat the bed, right?Tribe nine, guilongchao, black beacon, silver and blood, stella sora, DNA (conceived as a gacha), and now even endfield.Next up are NTE, Silver Palace, Promilia and Mongil Star Dive.
>>1933610Promilia will be hitIt offers something other gachas lack (elf girls)
>>1933596Endfield didn't flop thoughever? It made its money back, and Hypergryph isn't beholden to publishers for it.
>>1933610CZN is doing good and Trickcal kinda flopped but at least it had no drama whatsoever
>>1933596Yes
>>1933610>NTEflop, poor man's ananta until ananta's release>Silver palaceflop, offers nothing new to the table>Promiliasuccess or breaking even, colorful hot waifu fantasy game supported by yostar and nexon infrastructure and marketing>mongil star divewho?
Promilia will only succeed if they remove FeMC
most of us love blumine thoughever
>>1933619The copes of copes.
they can keep her as a regular character
>>1933610goodgachashit deserves to die
>>1933552>it has that light pandering in which nothing ever happensNot a problem for me, fanarts and doujins will sate my desires>fanserviceI think it's too soon to claim that, but even if that's true, it's not a big problem, because the modding community will be as based, degenerate, and as big if not bigger than Wuwa's, so everything will be alright
>>1933498play heartopia
>>1933619All the popular gacha have a female MCHowever, one of them has no male MC
>>1933610ZZZ has had 3 more relaunches from how much it flops after a couple of months, you call that not shitting the bed?
>children and ESLs on gachagaming claiming lives are at stake due to Endfield's fuckup
>>1933632>However, one of them has no male MCwhich
>>1933628>fanarts and doujinsAnd he comes out with the truth without me even asking, how nice. Whats the latin for that? Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta, I think.Well, this is a board for people that play the games, you can go to pixiv for such fanarts, we care nothing about those here, only the content that is in game
i'm going to be real with you /gdg/ thank god the titanic endfield soak up the headlines while snowbreak is on fire again.
>>1933632>ignoring snobble
>>1933639HBR
>>1933645hbr is pretty niche
>>1933643Well, this is the drama thread, out with it. Is it the hagified loli, or more shit?
>>1933645>popular
>>1933639LADS>>1933645>>1933644Neither of these are popular
i think hypergryph should just stick to regular games like ex astris and popucomboth were fun, unlike this dogshiti hope to see more content added to ex astris and popucom
>>1933649lads is unknown outside of femcel circles
>>1933651But don't you see, money invested scales infinitely to money earned, so the more expensive the game the better the returns yes? These people make millions each month advising companies BTW. Money and labor are infinitely scaling, there is an unlimited amount of potential customers and we have to pander to them all
>>1933656sigh, it's always them isn't itcorporate suit niggas and investor niggas should be skinned and boiled alive in oil for ruining gamingi swear it feels like every single publisher/developer is listening to the same retarded niggas who don't even play gamesno wonder everything is slop
>>1933617>offers nothing new to the tableIf they're smart they'll pursue something more of a detective angle to it and let you properly investigate shit, but I doubt it. I remember the court thing in Fontaine for Genshin being well received (aside from the laughable grasp the Chinese evidently have on how real courts work) so I'm surprised so few other games haven't adopted that and expanded on it.The female MC focus is worrying.
>>1933654are you a woman then?
>>1933610>DNANow that's a game that feels like it's still in beta. Chinawank isn't helping them either.
>>1933662>something more of a detective angle to it and let you properly investigate shitthere is exactly one live service game that tried that, the secret world. thinking that gacha writers can do that sort of shit is laughable. anon, come back to earth please.
>>1933665No. The idea is good, the writers are bad. That's the fault of the writers, they should be better. I refuse to accept substandard work and will continue to insist that the people who are bad at their job simply get better at it so the overall quality of all games increases rather than let them get complacent.
>>1933617>poor man's ananta*hits pipe*I don't know, bwo. Ananta doesn't look as slick as it did early on now that we've seen what it looks like in actual gameplay. From what I've seen of both NTE and ananta, I wouldn't really put one over the other yet.At the very least, NTE looks more like its down its own thing where as ananta is stealing a lot from spiderman.
>>1933669i can't speak for the merits of NTE, from the outset it doesn't appeal to me, so that's my surface perception of it and that always matters in marketing
ToF did so well right
>>1933634Hoyobros? Our response???
>>1933669>NTE looks more like its down its own thingThe ui looking almost identical to Genshin certainly doesn't give that impression, and Ananta has a lot more than just Spider-man so I don't feel as bothered by that. I personally don't think we've seen enough of Ananta to judge it properly though, especially since they won't FUCKING show us anything.
>>1933671I didn't care about NTE because the early stuff looked jank and cringe, but the trailers they put out recently look pretty slick so I'm keeping my eye on it to see what the next beta looks like.
>>1933668anon, they literally yoink freshman from college as slaves for writers, they want to sell you characters not stories. notice the only games that advertise their writers are fgo and (formerly) ffxiv, because they had professional ones. nowadays we are lucky if we get the CEO cousin to write (like in mihoyo).I agree with you, but gacha games or mmos aren't the place to look for good stories.
>>1933676>they won't FUCKING show us anythingThey had a demo fully playable at some press event months ago tho.
>>1933675>minus 30% revenue year by year
>>1933679That's all true, but I wish it wasn't so I'll keep shitting on them for it. Gacha are really best when the characters and story all flow well together and make them all feel fleshed out. All you need is someone autistic enough to do it, thought obviously it's rare. Basically my hope is if enough people shit on them for it long enough they'll stop being cheapskate faggots out of fear.
>>1933669Ananta isn't even a real game as far as i'm concerned. They made a few vertical slices of generic AAA slop and there's no cohesion between them.
>>1933680Yeah, but it was barebones. They admitted a lot of features were missing, many planned quests weren't shown and numerous other things weren't even finished enough to tease. Plus with how much they changed before I wouldn't be surprised if they changed a bunch from that playable demo in the end too. I want a glimpse of it when it's more fleshed out after a real beta or two.
There's that Vishnuvia game or whatever Hoyo was making.
>>1933685>Ananta isn't even a real game as far as i'm concernedFair enough. Have they even said what the premise of the story even is?
>>1933682well in the case of chinese ones I know of only one that had a good, self contained story, and I'm 100% convinced the writer was a japanese one considering their style was very similar to Nisio Isin.
>>1933687oh yeah, the UE5 engine game that came and went out of people's awareness in a single day.
>>1933685same as endfield, they still got to number 3 in the JP store
>>1933692Why are people doomposting endfield to begin with. It did very well by all metrics.
This has got to be the brownest general on this website
>It did very well by all metrics.kekaroo
I'm having a BLAST.16 hours in. It’s everything I’ve ever wanted Arknights: Endfield to be.That’s all.I am having an absolute blast. The world has hooked me. It’s so beautifully immersive. I mean, THOSE PHYSICS?! The animations. The weight and feel of the movement and combat. The graphics. The spell effects.I’m just so happy. I’m so so so happy. I’m a 10,000 year-old immortal feeling like a kid again.The way I see it is we are lucky enough to be conscious, alive sentient beings in 2026 when this technology even exists. 100 years ago people wouldn’t even understand the concept. I’m happy with whatever I can get.But honestly the criticism is definitely unwarranted, HyperGryph may be a small company, but they have actual employees with feelings too , and the market share has been quite unpredictable lately...Satisfactory is the closest game to Factorio in terms of technicality. But Arknights: Endfield is the closest game to Factorio in terms of feeling.I am absolutely in love and I wish you all could feel what I feel.
>>1933701I also come here to feel superior to the lowers.
>>1933704It really did. It's a self-published gacha with a solid launch. The game might not be doing gangbusters, all it really needs is to pay for itself and its future development. Going by GFL, Hypergryph can keep Endfield going pretty much indefinitely.
>>1933290>>FEMClol it's a fake option there is no "femc" >>1926296>>hard yurishithuh?
So what's going to happen to endfield? i can feel the EOS in the next few months because i can't see the game making a turnaround
>>1933716no need to get this delusional either
>>1933719>chings """""humor""""""
>>1933697>>1933705>>1933708>>1933718Cope
>Started playing another mixed toilet>"Why are """people""" complaining? It had a good launch and will make alot of money in the first month>Still cares about revenue numbers>Still believes the revenue numbers
>Start endfield>Get 0 rolls>Have to work for every single roll because they didn't give shit for players to start out with>Getting your first 6* from the beginner banner takes 6~ hours>Have to slog through the fucking story for those 6 hours to get your welfare 6* or reroll for a full week through the worst tutorial in gachadude this is FUCKEDeven more that these slant eyed jews refuse to give anything for launch, paypal issues, appstore ranks or anythingholy shit, this is just horrible
>>1933745
>>1933749Anon is exaggerating, but endfield is genuinely very stingy. Free rolls are mostly standard aka worthless rolls, limited rolls are a fucking pain to get.
>>1933752Yeah I'm sorry, I forgot to add that they give six rolls, seven if you grab a few chests.If you're going to reroll for one of the characters actually worth getting then you're in real reroll hell.
>>1933749Bruh they can't even give one free pull
>>1933755For reference, a single pull takes 500. According to chink calcs there's like 300 limited rolls but you need to open like 300 hidden chests, collect every oculus, finish every achievement and do every task to get it.
>>1933752Doesn't mean his lying ass is justified. Not trying to defend the game btw, probably gonna leave once i'm done with the 7-days login.
>>1933761>erm um he lied we actually get a few rolls you liar scum>btw gonna quit this shit gameautism must be one hell of a ride if it makes you be this retarded about shit that doesnt matter
>>1933764>s-stop outing my liesNo i won't be a part of your retarded tribalniggery.
>>1933745Is there a skip button to make the story less of a pain?
>>1933767you can skip dialog but not cutscenesand even with skip it takes like 30 minutes for 7 rolls which is apparently very generous according to the above cucklord so don't you dare complain about it
>>1933755This is why people should never defend gacha devs.If Wuwa would've had a flawless launch, people would be getting not even half of the pulls they have been giving since then.Genshin relatively flawless launch led to the stinginess it is known for.But the fact that this paypal huge issue didn't even make HG bend the knee a little bit is a huge redflag. These fuckers are arrogant as fuck.
>>1933749what part of it is a lie? it genuinelly takes ~6 hours to get the freebie and a 10 pull for the limited
[Concerning news] After the Endfield debacle, the normies are slowly getting redpilled about the 3D open world gachas....
>>1933777>game is so shit we're going to regressFGO will never be good at this rate
>>1933772At least you finally admit that you do get free rolls, concession accepted.
What's wrong with Endfield besides the payment processor?
>>1933777what makes FGO so good?
Homogryph are arrogant due to how deep they gargle the CCP's balls.
>>1933782story, universe, and nothing elsegacha with involved stories will always have loyal following and survive no matter how shit the rest of the game is
At this point many people have open world fatigue.
>>1933782Don't be fooled by cultist, the sunk cost is talking
Endfield is a cool game, but a terrible gacha game, i would have bought it if it was a regular game. That's mainly where the fatigue comes from live service slop.
>>1933765>game gives 94 rolls>anon says that he got like a hundred rolls>¨uhmm, actually, it doesn't quite reach a hundred retarded tribbalnigger¨
>>1933781In a word, boring.I'm already at the end of the 1st region after the Y rock boss. After 10+ hours, nothing has really stood out except for the factory part but that's only in contrast to other gacha games.The combat relies on having a large enough roster to constantly spam skills (which only whales have) otherwise it's very basic, the story is a snorefest, and the exploration is pretty standard though at least the maps are small so it doesn't feel like extreme padding.The only good bits are the factory part, but that takes way too long since the keep gating stuff behind the main story. In typical factory/engineering games, your unlocks are generally gated by how fast you can adapt and build stuff, not multiple hours of yapping, so even autismos might get turned off by it. Also, it obviously requires a certain kind of autism to enjoy that which normalfags don't have.
>>1933498>he hasnt played hoyogames yetfool
>>1933681DELETE THIS SAAR
>GFL2 is scared their player base will pivot to Endfield>gives free character selector, weapon selector, and skin selector>Endfield killed itself insteadGotta thank Arknigger for overhyping the game
>>1933810Where is xim anyway? Haven't seen xim since endfield dropped
>>1933810Yuzhong always wins baybee
>>1933789For me the hoyo/botw progression system(collect orbs all over the map, dynamic difficulty, progression gated behind your account level) was a huge turnoff.Also yeah the gameplay suck balls, i mapped skill and chain button to my mouse and it's enough to play the game with one hand. Factory exist to complement the shitty combat and not the way around.
2 downs. 4 more to go......
>>1933820Wuwon...?
>>1933810Aren't both completely different types of gacha?
yuri transbians claimed the zzz angelsWHEN I SAY WUYOU SAY WONWU
>>1933824Point is MICA and hypergryph had a long time beef.
>>1933825>SAAAAAAAAAR ZZZ IS MORE ML THAN WUWA SAAARR ZZZ IS THE TRUE ML SAAARRRHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
>>1933825male gaze content
>>1933820>Censored PalaceWhy is this one listed here? Surely you're not delusional enough into thinking that "literal what?" game has a chance to compete with Azur Promilia or Ananta right? Hell they are probably more people interested in Now to EOS that this shit.
>Duet night abyss>overhyped as fuck>flopped hard soon after release>Endfield>overhyped as fuck>flopped hard soon after releasePromilia?
>>1933832>endfield>overhypedthe expectations for that games were reasonably high after arknights and ex astris, it just entered a market completely desensitized for what it wanted to do
>>1933832>zero hype>top the chart as soon as release
>>1933789I really dragging myself across Endfield, seriously.Even after playing Genshin and Wuwa, I thought I had already figured it out and Endfield would be also of my liking, but is just not clicking for me.First are the awful stingy rewards. I keep playing but my pull count is barely going up. No motivation.The other one is still not getting the standard I want, which is Ember or at least Last Rite. I haven't even reached the 40 pity, and with my luck I'll probably get one of the two homos, and most likely the fucking twink. While the fucking streamers got these two girls at the start, this sucks.
>>1933832>no hype>die in obscurity(unless they remove femc)
>>1933832endfield doesn't flopit's the 2nd day and still not dropping in ranking.
>The turn-based Honkai: Star Rail that claimed to invade NetEase’s stronghold officially dropped off the daily chart.Before launch: “Attacking NetEase’s core turn-based market, Fantasy Westward Journey and Onmyoji will be taken over.”After launch: In less than 3 years, daily revenue dropped off the chart. iOS chart mysteriously updates at 4 a.m., and even at 1 a.m right before dropping out of 200th position. Today marks its first official daily chart drop.Meanwhile, Onmyoji launched in 2016, now 10 years old, yet has never dropped off the chart once. A 3-year-old new game worse than a 10-year-old veteran. Don’t even mention competing with Fantasy Westward Journey.
Steady win the race
>see two cute girls hugging each other>immediately thinks of getting cuckedExplain this to me, kurobot.
>>1933843When I hug my bro I look deep in his with my eyes sparkling and lips puckered up. It's just bro stuff is all.
>>1933755>that'll be $7,000 (you're paying for everyone else)>no free rolls btw this isnt a charity5-6 years just to fuck yourself in the ass on day 1 thats terrible lol
>girls fondling each other boobs is normal fan service in most romance anime>wuwajeets can't see anything other than themselves getting cucked when they see girls getting chummy with each otherIs this generational gap? Am I getting old?
I understand not wanting to see your favorite wife not interacting with a m*le but not wanting to see them interacting with a girl is beyond pathetic. This is why everyone is laughing at hardcore MLfags.
>winninggenshinzzz>losinghsrwuwa>eoscuckfield
>>1933847>Is this generational gap?Yes, kids these days would immediately tag it as shoujo ai or even worse yuri or """straight""" yuri and pretend it's always been a thing.
I think gacha fatigue is finally getting to me with Endfield
>>1933853More like ch*nkslop after genshart fatigue, i'm unironically having fun with trickcal but with these clones, once you play one you've played everything.
I'll say it now: the only one who will win is Promilia, and only because Yostar will publish it stella sora won btw
>>1933847you already know what genre that anime is, so of course you wouldn't think about other genres. but what about gacha games? Is there any specific genre for gachas like WuWa, Genshin, HSR, AKE, or ZZZ? those games have no specific genre like manga or anime, so you'd better assume those games were made with troons in mind
>>1933831You know how Reverse 1999 still persists even though people said it was DOA? Silver Palace will be the same, and it appeals to the same people. It won't be a blockbuster title, just a niche game that will serve to contain people you don't want playing your favorite games.
>>1933859>ZZZ>made with troons in mindYeah, I'm sure hoyo was thinking about trannies when designing ellen, zhu yuan, xi yuan, astra, evelyn, etc.
>>1933867Reverse 1999 is alive because it's niche. Silver Palace is like the thousandth gacha game trying to be Wuwa 2d>3d slop
Endfield is actually pretty great. I've played it for 15 hours and I can say that it's the most polished gacha game yet. The best character I rolled is Pogranichnik but I can't wait to get Antal.
>>1933563Jarvis, generate an image where the girls are kissing the male endministrator.
Now that Endfield has failed, will Promilia be the true savior of gacha?
>>1933868yes by making all of them as lesbian as possible just so the game can still earn the title of 'everyone game
Is there any chink game with normal storytelling?I just realized the gachas that I'm still playing are all gooks, since once I get tired of the gameplay what made me stay are the story and characters, which chinks usually failed to deliver.
peak SOVLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wMz8mDyHgM
>>1933882>build up good will with all of the waifupandering in the current patch>proceed to do a 180 and yuripander in the following patchclassic
So did Endfield manage to reach #1 in Google or iOS in their first day xisters?
>>1933855>stella sora won btwI'm so fucking sorry, anon.
>>1933891eosfield
>>1933885It's so obvious, you should have realized it when they started making twitter account for these girls and this isn't even the first time
>>1933891Nice BA killer you have there lmao.
KekLmaoI don't even
bruh how do i delete my Endfield account and information?
>>1933912>entire drive erasedMan am I glad someone posted that Tencent anti-cheat process here, that was the post that made me reconsider installing this garbage chink shitFuck chinks man
>>1933885this you?
> [GOOD NEWS] AKE's Bilibili promotion got turned into a successful marketing case study
>>1933916just dont cheat nigga
>>1933832>DNA>overhypedNo one even heard of that shit lol
>>1933921still not playing changshit
>>1933924fuck off we're full
Mentally ill general
>>1933869Silver Palace panders to the same kind of people with """british""" voice acting, """victorian""" aesthetics and """yuri""". And by the virtue of being a 3D action game it gets more attention from the get-go.It's already sharing lots of the playerbase with r1999fags and they keep comparing the characters from both gachas.You're not thinking like proper goycattle.
>Solon appear in the wuwa stream just to say 3.0 was perfectfuck off
>>1933936SP has a Male MC so that's probably a big turnoff for R1999fags.
>>1933942link?
>already falling offyupit's over
>>1933948it literally says +4 you retarded faggot mongoloid wuwa cocksucker blindkekgo back to your shit general for retards
>>1933952It was 4 earlier and now it's dropping off. The fact that it couldn't hit number 1 on the Japanese store with NO other gacha in the top 10 is really telling.
>>1933946Last time I brought this up I've been told that the Male MC was basically missing from promo materials and the beta.
>>1933955But the guy is still there. It's not like they said they will get rid of the option to pick him in the real version.
>>1933953get cancer
>>1933956One option will be significantly more popular than the other, anon. Especially if THAT kind of "people" will find the game.
>>1933959Another Stella Sora situation then
>>1933952>wuwa out of nowhere.Xister is mindbroken LMAO
>>1933952Endfailed... Wuwon!
>getting THIS mind broken over wuwaI want to wulose a single day cause wuwon every single time is the norm
>>1933891>921 in chinajesus fucking christhow can they save the game there?
>zero hype for wuwa new waifu>shipping old waifu with MALES>winningkek
>>1933967Its gonna hit more 40m because the tga guy leak the new character
>>1933965anon wulosing is the only thing you do, every social web is making fun of YOU
>pay event in 3.1jjajajaj
Laughing stock of the world.
>>1933975>tectone 2.0
>>1933975grown ass man btw
Do YOU have hope of this being true?
more detail optimization
>>1933979this is the best optimization the one where the game will go worse after
I can't believe wuwa won again.....How do we stop Kuro...?
>>1933981you wake up first
that didn't age well
>>1933983is permanent or limited tickets?
>>1933975he do be right doe
>>1933983>Appreciation Gift instead of the usual top ranking giftMust be humiliating lmao
>>1933975bitch rant
>>1933985limited
>spent billions in ads and 6 years of development>not even reaching rank 1 in jp appstore>can't break top 3 in cnIt's over.
>>1934000shut the fuck up wuwashit retard
Yuribait sells because Chinese MLfags love it. That's just a fact.
>>1934001touch grass, seanigg
will be funny when endfield stays high up months from now on
>>1934006wuwatards will cope and shit and cry all over here and the vg general, powerless and buck broken
>>1934000It's censored snoozefest for gay people and women.They will be lucky if that trash game isn't EoSing in a few months due to excessive marketing fees, huge maintenance and development cost, while having the revenue worse than half of the PNG ancient games on the market.Tranny audience simply doesn't exist. Even Genshin couldn't maintain gay period for long and they still keep dying because they tried it once.
>>1934006It's not going to. The story is boring, the combat is boring and it's a cuckfest shipbait game. The revenue comes mostly from idiots with zero self control who will drop the game in 1 week
>>1934007>>1934001>>1933958>>1933952But enough about seething on Wuwa, Xister Saar.But enough seething on Wuwa, Saar.
why does wuwa mindbreak everyone above it in the memecharts?
>>1934016but i thought the memecharts were fake? that means wuwa is doing way worse
>>1934017that has nothing to do with his question, philippinxbro
Any scholars know why GFL2 is suddenly getting reviewbombed by chinks?
>>1933474It's even worse
>>1934021Arknights and GFL's beef with each other has been revived.
>>1934021Have you forgotten that AKfags were the OG raiders and they targeted everyone including Azurlane and GFL? They were literally the start of all the gacha drama.
>>1934004Yeah, look a Flopbina, she did so well...
>spending eventSolon finally learning lessons once again
>>1934027yeah? she performed better than any wuwa banner
>>1934028oh? why didn't wuwasaars mention this?
>>1934029It's funny how for some reason hoyotroons think that everyone that hates their games is a wuwatroon
>>1934030We know why
>>1934033disgusting
>>1933885>>1933825told you >>1933061
>>1934033pay up gweilo the server ain't gonna fund itself
Lets pause for a moment to laugh at arknot cucks.
>>1934033Kek
>>1934043FUCKING PAYBACK BITCH KEKAROOOO
>>1934043Damn. What happened to the MASSIVE Arknights community?
>>1934033It's ok when kuro does it because they are just adapting to the changing market that hoyo is enforcing on everyone this is good for them
>>1934043>mavuika and citlaliDecisive ML victory.
>fuck you my goyslop is better than your goyslop also that new goyslop is also shit something somethingThe thread
>>1934050Always has been
Even if Endfield somehow manages to recover from its disastrous launch, it's still missed its chance to decisively btfo Genshin so as far as /gdg/ is concerned it's a complete failure, literally Wuwa 2.0 if not even worse in many ways.
>>1934050Well, the new goyslop IS shit.
>>1934050Indeed.
>>1934043wuwa players will somehow get blamed for this
>>1934053Its worse because the potential was much higher and they fumbled almost everything, no bribes to gain sympathy back after stealing peoples banks accounts is the worst thing ive seen a gacha do. Black beacon died for much less
can't wait for wuwa spending event to flop
>>1934050You don't pull the No True Scotsman fallacy when you are losing wuwabro
this is truei doompost every game that isn't wuwaall shitposts attacking every game? all wuwa players btw
spending event with>shitty optimization>new character with zero build up/hype>betrayed Chinese ML fans after blatant shipping pushIt will surely go well wuwa bros....AHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
>[URGENT] Mysterious force is mass downvoting GFL2 on Steam. Could this be...?
wuwakeks deserve all the shitting they get to be fair
It's no surprise that every shitposter is a wuwafag it must be hard being the bitch of hoyofags
spending event with>shitty optimization>new character with zero build up/hype>betrayed Chinese ML fans after blatant shipping pushsounds just like ZZZ 3 months ago
>>1934053>somehow manages>hypergryph is anti for (you) pandering and anti lewd.not gonna happen.
>>1934072this much copewhat shipping push btw? don't tell me you are feeling threatened by girls interacting with each other?
>>1934075yuritroon's hands typed this
>art comissioned by kuro doesn't count because... it just doesn't ok?
this is straight up shit tier rank for a day 1 game. does the modern audience really not want to spend on their supposedly catered (shipping, lesbian, and homo) game to bump their country up? post the CN rank, please
>>1933885lmao added to collection of zookeks humiliation
Girls don't have dicks
>>1934043MLCHADS WON
>>1934076I'm a huge waifufag but I will tell you over and over again, if the first thing in your mind when you see girls hugging each other is getting cucked, there is something wrong with you. continue enjoying your shitty "ML" slop that offers nothing other than cardboard waifu with zero personality and depth.
Endfield flopping isn't surprising at all. It's a completely different game than Arknights.
>>1934083>I'm a huge waifufag but>proceeds to write things that a waifufag would never writeSure thing, buddy.
>>1934083we know yuritroon
>>1934079The thing is, younger gacha audience is way more lonely than older gacha audience. ML is the way if you want to sell a new gacha right now.
>>1934083no self-respecting waifufag plays hoyoslops
>>1934084>different game than Arknights.>same boring universe>same boring character designs>same cameraman MC (they wrote the story with female MC in mind, they are so fucked kek)>same negative you pandering and coomer designsarkbab cope.
>>1934079Even ZZZ managed to get #1 with the latest chinese slut.
>>1934079>advertised hard for non-eastern audience>50>71I think it is just impossible for gacha to do well in western hemisphere
>>1934089I'll tell you again and again, if the first thing in your mind when you see girls being close to each other is getting cucked, there is something wrong with you.I'll admit ZZZ flaw. Jane patch was a fucking mistake and it's a blatant shipshit I do not tolerate but even if it's bad, it not this bad >>1933524. No self respecting waifufag will play a game with that blatant shipping.
>>1934072you got xim kek, troon btfo
>>1934091it's obvious that they boosted the ranking, genshin didnt even hit top 3 with archon tier banner
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1qkp9ck/wuthering_waves_version_31_official_trailer_for/It's not looking good wuwabros...
>>1934093Yuri is shipping. No difference. It's not the same as two girls lewdly making out like Illya and Kuro in that Fate anime where you could see some appeal from straight males. It's all about pairing characters romantically here at the end of the day.
>>1934093So if a straight guy WATCHING 2 girls get intimate is not cuckoldry then I guess a bi person WATCHING a het couple neither is cuckoldry. got it.
>>1934099saar delet this
>>1934093>They're just friends bro>Trust me bro>Something is wrong with you if you think they're more than friendsA few months later:>I love this couple so much!>They're gay as fuck>Fuck off, incel. You don't belong hereI’ve seen this pattern a hundred times already
>>1934099>hoyogaming
interesting how it's been six patches and somehow the Fufu has managed to dodge any and all shipyuricuck allegations
Is Endfield actually doomed? I see no one praising it.
>>1934093>>1933199>commissioned fan content shipshit is worse than unskippable in-game shipshitthe right thing to do is play neither but you probably spent too much to quit
idols will make yuri straight again, trust the plan
>>1934109It's boring censored game made with women and gay people on mobile phones in mind.
>>1934110I played WuWa and spent like 120 USD during the Charlotta banner, then quit after a while because the characters just feel fucking soulless and older characters get treated like they’re disposable. I tried it again because I liked Chisa’s design, and you can guess why I quit again.I started ZZZ during the Burnice banner, and thank god I didn’t experience the garbage Jane patch. I’ve never once thought about quitting because the characters actually feel like real human beings, and I’m not insane enough to think I’m getting cucked over minor character interactions with a male character or "yuri" bait.
>>1934116>I’m not insane enough to think I’m getting cucked over minor character interactions with a male character or "yuri" bait.>picrelironic
>>1934118Zookek has zero self-awareness.
>>1934118I just post that picture to trigger "ML" fans who are seething about girls being friends with other girls. The reason I quit wuwa twice has nothing to do with shipping/ML.
>>1934033>hsr 3.2 presents a new pink woman, affeminate guy and a spending event>wuwa 3.1 presents a new pink woman, affeminate guy and a spending event
>>1934120I guess I'll spell it out for you since you're too retarded to figure it out.What happened to Chisa after her patch? Do tell.
gender wars, mc wars and yuri/yaoi shit are actually happening even outside of gacha games, huh? I thought it was just a gacha game thing and exclusive to cn extremists only
>>1934121Don't compare Castorice to that slop.
>>1934123Unironically how new? How is Pekin doing rn?
wuwabros...he's right....
>>1934121Anaxa is actually pretty based despite his look
>browsing predditIs this the power of the zoocuck?
>>1934120>nyeeh nyeeh im only pretending to be retarded
>>1934127>those tagslol
>>1934126I always thought people just hated that DEI bullshit, never thought I'd see mc gender wars outside of the gacha bubble lol
>>1934125literally only known for her global passive
>>1934132Should have realized he was just shitposting once he posted about "real hoooman beans".
>>1934104Sounds like Nod Krai discourse.
would be funny if wuwa spending event can't beat zzz.
>>1934142you already know that this will be the case.
>>1934132>no argumentOkay. What am I even expecting from a slop eater who feels threatened by slight character interactions?
>>1934104You are right xis, the best solution to this is to shame straight men and to cede entire franchises to faggots and their delusions
>>1933820kinda funny that no matter how cucked and trannypilled your game is, the suits know you can't get away showing a male character on the its banner
>>1934138yeah. that's on mebeen a long time since i saw someone say that
good morning sirs what company is we defend today?
>>1934155paypal sir
>>1934134gender wars are DEI bullshit.
>>1934156Isn't it strange how the hoyo schizo went into MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE and drowned out all the endfield shit going on?Very strange. Curious, even.
why wuwa players try to act like kuro didnt scam people in 1.0 and were forced to give back everything and they also leaked every mail
>>1934160Wuwa players are retarded and gullible. It's nothing new.
>>1934160endfield's fuck up makes wuwa 1.0 look like a fucking joke.>you accidentally exposed every jp player's email that asked for a refund on the jiyan weapon?>heh. watch this...
>>1934164wuwa 1.0 was not playable
Will Endfield backtrack like Kuro and go full ml? They are not making the money back this launch for sure.
>>1934166The game is already full of ML-esque pandering and it flopped. If anything they should go back to their Arknights roots and put out more ships.
>>1934165Yes it was.>>1934166Endfield is already released and has years of established AK lore. They're in too deep to pivot now.
Someday you will learn that you dont want ml content(endfield alredy have) you want fanservice
>>1934160you tell em xis! let's instead talk about wuwa almost 2 years ago!
a dont worry wuwa optimization from 3.0 is so good anons oh wait thats also 2 years ago right?
>>1934167There is no ML in endfield.
>>1934170Fanservice is cheap and shallow. ML content is what I want.
I only want to rape though
>>1934158zoocuck and arkcuck, same bread
>[INDUSTRY NEWS]Apparently Wuthering Waves has reached all time low in viewership and engagement on the Japanese side.
>>1934187Oh, so that's why they're doing a spending event now. kek.Absolutely deserved btw.
>>1934187>Garbage story>Every version exploration get worse>Bad Optimization
>>1934187fake saar
>>1934187>conveniently comparing it to the nipwank patch
>>1934189It's kuro's own fault. They set a pace they couldn't keep up with, and now the level of quality they set with 2.0 is dropping.
>>1934195kekthis is why hoyo never optimize their games so they dont have to deal with this problem
>>1934196It's not the optimization. Kuro had the bright idea to promise every patch was going to be a major patch with 2 new 5* characters.
just sayinggenshin has never had a spending event
>>1934198the only filler patch with no new maps last year was the anni, every patch outside of that got new maps.Kuro is just making quanty over quality
>>1934199their own slop is an spending event saar
>>1934201what does this even mean
>>1934199GODshin doesn't want to make money as we all know
>>1934187>nips are in love with Endfieldgood to hear
>>1934199they had whaling event
seele/seele = surtr/laevatainnraiden/acheron = ???
>>1934209i feel like the lolcalization team for hsr threw a party when the cn-jp conflict happenedit's like they hate jp culture when a character is named sparkle instead of hanabi when (correct me if im wrong) she's from the notjapan faction/region
Is Endfield a flop or not? Make up your damn minds already.
>>1934216underwhelming enough for it to get made fun ofalso the shills overestimated the BIG arknights community
>>1934216A huge success for a tranny game. Trannies won.
>>1934219what im really interested about is if the waifufags will fall for the game's (you)pandering meme. we will know in 4-6 months
>>1934216HG spent as much as MHY during ZZZ launchand their result is not even top 5 on ios chart
>>1934216>longer dev time than zzz and wuwa>spend way more in ads than both>doesn't even break top 3 in china and top 1 in JP on launchYou tell me.
>>1934220even cucks like wuwajeets don't play endfield. it's not a waifu game which is why it's flopping.
>>1934214my point ------>you
>>1934221It's a niche comfy game for transsexual folk, you shouldn't compare it to games selling jiggling ass and tits harlots to the masses.
>>1934230ZZZ was game for shiptrannies but switched direction because 1.1 and TV almost killed the game. It will also happen to Endfield. I bet they will cancel some male characters.
>>1934231It can't and won't happen to Enfield. Unlike ZZZ nobody but gay people play the game.ZZZ marketed around tits and asses, Endfield marketed aroud MC canonically changing gender and every female wearing a burka.
how do I stop melting down about yuri so I can go back appreciating cute girls like I used to?
>WuWa>Spending eventHahhahahahahahahaDeserved!!!This is karma lmao
>>1934237Stop playing wuwa.
>>1934224Its flopping because its boring and has the worst launch and pull pacing in gacha history, legit dogshit. They had a whole team design a perfect torture chamber for rerollers and they forgot that normal new players also have to go through that slog
>>1933869>Reverse 1999 is alive because it's niche. Silver Palace is like the thousandth gacha game trying to be WuwaIt's funny that you say this, considering that R1999's dev is making a generic open world "genshin killer" slop game (ft. UE5) too.
>>1934243gacha fatigue is realholy shit we don't need more
https://youtu.be/YWbdLJaEmIUWheres rover?
maybe another skin gacha banner will save them
time to jew out more yuzhong
>>1934243What the fuck is t hat disgusting fucking ear????Holy shit, it takes effort to make an ear SO DISGUSTINGI feel nauseated IRL
insane how rewatching AP 1st cbt gave me more satisfying feeling than AKE launch
>>1934248>>>>steamcalm down snowbro
>>1934187>go homo>japan doesn't like itAnd xisters told me Japan doesn't care.
>>1934237dilate i guess
>>1934243why is everyone obsessed with open world slop still? genshin isn't as popular as it was in 2020 anymore, do something else for fuck's sake
>>1934247>3 girls with 1 male drinking wine and dancing at night in the same roomML game btw AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>1934254is that how you cope with these rankings?
>>1934259It's not being a cuck if the male also wants to suck Rover's dick.
>>1934247Typical mixed toiletd behavior. You pay for 'your' waifu only for the devs to whore it to a gay looking male, because female players like shipping. Besides, it's the third year, the Sumeru time.
>>1934241she looks like she owns a rape dungeon
zzz needs to suck on that genshin/hsr teat just to stand a chance against wuwa
>>1934260PC revenoo snowbro?
both of those games have standalone clients, retards
>>1934262Wheres rover?
>>1934069>Arknigger attacking a smaller, unrelated flop game to hide their own humiliationGrim. Endflop was worse than anyone thought
>>1934267>>1934268I think stella sora is winning there too given the IOS rankings what a comeback by stella sora
>>1934258Open world slop is the current trendy thing among game devs (previously it was Souls-like gameplay, hero shooters and ratmaze FPS) thanks to Zelda and Elden Ring which demonstrated that you can slap a shit open world on any genre and retards will open their ass to defend it as the evolution of gaming. Companies are also using open maps to dose the content of their games to make them feel bigger and to brag about technical features in an attempt to justify the inflated budgets of these games (a behavior copied from Rockstar).
>>1934222>>doesn't even break top 3 in china and top 1 in JPHow's that a flop? They're top5 in the two most profitable regions.
>>1934100>two girls lewdly making out like Illya and Kuro in that Fate anime where you could see some appeal from straight males.This is subversion in progress.
>>1934274>skyrim makes open world popular>zelda makes open world popular again>genshin makes open world popular again>elden ring makes open world popular againThe ride never ends.
>>1934275It's launch day. Even ZZZ last void hunter ranked 1 in China.
>>1934277>elden ring makes open world popular againIt didn't
>>1934277Skyrim, Automata, Witcher, Souls. The golden age of gaming was paved by open world titles just as MMOs (also open world) were gradually fading away. The resurgence of open world is not because of obsession but rather because of mobile shitter games becoming able to handle the graphics somewhat. The problem is, however, in the inability of mobile players to handle actual gameplay, so all this game come out as dull trash.
>it's another episode of zootroons labeling Wuwa ML in an attempt to get wins
>>1934187>lost a big chunk of players in the CN side for forcing shipbait TWO times and promoting male characters like crazy in the promos>lost another chunk of the players in the JP side because the story has been dogshit>lost ANOTHER chunk of players in KR because Rover is becoming a camera man and no the based sung jin woo they were expecting Nice job Kuro
Japs don't care that much about wuwa to be honest
>>1934247Why they always need to put like popular female characters and one male character? I never seen a single wuwa ad with all the characters being male, Kuro knows that if they put ads with just male characters no one would give a shit, they use the female characters as accessories for the homos, also notice how none of the female characters show their cleavage but the male character is showing it
will wuwatards finally accept that poowa is a normalfaggot game and stop this delusion?
>>1934295>>1934299The silver lining is that if they get desperate enough they'll up the fanservice.
>>1934294proven right once again
Endfield is savedrough 350k on day 1 but manage to recover at day 2
>>1934307based paypal
>>1934307>didn't hit the spending cap on qimai>savedlmao
>>1934247[NEW SMALL DRAMA]Someone vandalized Qiuyuan stand outside the KFC
>>1934314Snow bro tier behavior
>>1934314you're welcome, wuwabros
>>1934318Please be patient with snowbro, he got mocked all day in his home turf by the blue woman.
>>1934259It's sad that you have to get your (you)s from here because you are largely ignored in /wuwa/.
>>1934320Sure thing, xis.
>>1934322I never post in your general because I don't play your cucked game anymore.
>>1934314BASED
Hey for the WuWatard asking for proof in-game, here you have it, it seems the blonde guy wasn't happy with just stealing the shorekeeper now he is aiming for the newest girl lol
The Holy Knights moved to wuwa huh?
>>1934334sure retard. the new female character is definitely not only visible to (you)
>>1934200hurts that zani got the shit end of the stick with that kit and early reliance on another 5 star to fully function
>>1934340they learned that trick from mihoyo
>>1933605Not gacha sorry xis>>1933701>>1933706Clearly you haven't opened /bag/ during prime SEA hours
>>1934206>eventStygian is every patch but it also is shitty cosmetics that likely existed just to be something pretty for whales to show off for 40 days only before it disappears again for at max 1 day before they go nuking the next contentHell the most exciting thing these weapons did was give lore on the 5 sinners before 6.0 happened which gave us our very first sinner model that wasn't reused shit in rerir
>>1934322It truly is the most pathetic schizo I've seen in a while.
>>1934341I thought genshin only copied wuwa, not the other way around
>>1934347they both copy each other cause they both want to make money
>>1934341I envy kuro, they only need to do marginal upgrades over the competition without any risks because its a proven formula, and they can also copy all the anti consumer tactics and the blame will be shifted to the competition aswell. They literally cannot lose, i kneel
>>1934352when you realize mhy/kuro are just apple/samsung of gacha sphere everything starts making sense
>>1934342Nah, /gdg/ has everyone beat hard because browns want their own console wars
>>1934355They do that in ALL generals.The big difference is that this general is the official home of no one so they can't cry off topic.And like I said, /bag/ is something else.
>>1934330Whatever you say.
>>1934357keklosing tga really mindbroke xim
>>1934357I wonder what xis ethnicity is. The internet truly hasn't been the same since subhumans got access.
If you want to study schizophrenia in the third world just look at this thread
>>1934356Sounds like you just have a vendetta
>>1934362Don't make me repeat myself.
Hello fellow brownoids
>>1934364>random /bag/ mentionYou harbor something deep inside
>>1934357There are many nicoleposters, not just me retard. I don't visit other general unlike you who keep shilling wuwa in /zzz/ thread. I'm not the only one who doesn't like your cuck game. Shocking isn't it?
>kuro paid geoff for tga>this is a win according to wuwajeetskek
>>1934375mhy paid tranny olympic to promote hsr so
>>1934282it did, even though its the worst part of that game
>>1934134>>1934123Nigga please, this shit has been going on for like a decadeYES FGO shitters DO have, to this day, MC wars.
>>1934111Just apply the classic rule of thumb:>Looking at viewerFFM>Looking at each otherYuriniggery
kurobros??
>11 yo gacha reached higher than endfieldkek
>>1934384>massive marketing budget>established fanbase>really polished game> still flopping badlyWhy does it fail this hard? Can NTE be better than this?
>Still playing mixed toilets
>still playing softcore porn with no fan content
>>1934393fgo....
Why other games cant have real puzzles like endfield?
>>1934387>Why does it fail this hard? EF's biggest mistake was not porting the correct characters. I have no fucking idea why they didn't have some of the most popular AK characters ported to Endfield on day 1.They also didn't port any characters that are specifically popular among Japanese AK players.
>>1934403This looks like it's just Picross
>>1934404None of the most popular arknights characters would have made me stay with a story as boring as that one.
>>1934404Like?
>>1934387>really polished gamenot even you believe that
>>1934413Skadi, Lappland, Exusiai, Shu, Arturia.
Found this by chance in the wild and knew anon would appreciate it <3
>>1934415Those are for the first, or maybe even possibly the second relaunch, its a common strategy for gachas nowadays, they expect it to fail first time around.
>>1934416So instead he made a game that is full of yuri and platonic pandering? Wow, much thanks
>>1934416UwU *cums on you*
>>1934418You always say this and it's never more correct every time
>>1934418You always say this and it's more correct every time
>>1934420ss the text in the story where he actually kissed or fucked any of them
>>1934387It's censored boring slop.
>>1934423This is why you're retarded without even realizing it.
>>1934426is this why Hoshino is happier with the mahjong soul MC?
>>1934429Mahjong rightfully puts anyone sane to sleep
>it almost feels wrongkek she knows
>>1934404>>1934415>catering the gatekeepers
Now that the most gaytranny enabling company is on its way to bankruptcy, how will it affect the gacha space?
>>1934436why are you like that with kingsoft?
>>1934436>how will it affect the gacha space?they will spread to other gacha and poz them up
>There's an actual mahjong schizo in the threadholy shit lmao
>>1934404Sutr is popular. Especially among coomer fan artists. She's probably top #5. It's not like she's a literal who. I don't think you can blame the flopped revenue on her.But I agree with the other anon that they intentionally saving the other more popular characters for later patches. If the game even lasts that long.
>>1934436>Now that the most gaytranny enabling company is on its way to bankruptcyMihoyo is still doing fine though
>Get hyped for Dragon Sword because i grew up playing Dragon Nest.>tee hee korean release only
>>1934480the fuck is dragon sword
>>1934481https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n205CdNij04It's playable if you are korean.
>>1934480that's literal aisloppa porridge stop shilling it
>>1934465>Sutr is popular. Especially among coomer fan artists. She's probably top #5.Popularity among artists isn't reflective of a character's general popularity because artists rarely play the games they draw fanart for. The main issue with Surtr, and with Angelina after her, is that they have virtually no lore at all, so they aren't that interesting to Arknights veterans, and they aren't unique enough to attract newfags. I won't blame the flopped launch on her, but I'm sure things would've been different if Hypergryph launched Endfield with an actually popular character (Exu, W, Texas, Skadi)
>>1934216it's not eos tomorrow tier but it's underwhelming, however it has basically no competition for the next few months.
eek ook stellar sora won
>everyone on Twitter is still laughing at wuwa>Chinese mlfans are still seething because of shipping dramaIt's unironically over for Wuwa.
saintontas status?
Ugly.Retarded.Brown.
>>1934503Hoyofans punching bag
>>1934503>goes on a crusade against endfield>wuwa immediately drops an spending eventit's like karma
>>1934505just like you
>>1934503Winning as usual
*SAD NEWS*The Wuthering Waves new version trailer is only getting half the engagement of the Angel of Delusion song in China.
pfffttt oh nononononono
>>1934522More embarrassing than the time snowbreak advertised on discord.
>endfield DoA>wuwa implodingwhich gacha is next?
Azur Promilia despite having less features will be a bigger success.
>>1934554so true xister!
>>1934554So true, brother.
All a game needs is cute girls and no playable males. AP has a chance.
>>1934554What features does Endfield have?
>>1934551>/vg/ said that Enfield and DNA would kill and steal all of Stella Sora and CZN money and fandom2D GODS WON
BD2 is still winning btw
>>1934559stella sora already killed itself bro>>1933891
I'm genuinely curious, what went wrong?
>>1934566everything not named graphics or optimization
>>1934566is it true the title screen is only the Femc?
>>1934566Man she looks so cute...Too bad she's stuck on a shit game. Many such cases
>>1934557Yep, also no femc.
Is the zoocuck still going at it?
>>1934566It's trying to be Mihomo so bad
>>1934571lmao copesex
>>1934564arktroon leeelolo
>>1934575You can't have sex with yourself xis
>>1934580
>>1933882It sucks so much that I won't be able to get all of them, but man are they diabetes-level cute. I wish I could them allHere's the JP version for non-subhumanshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=triNgwM3bGI
>>1934577>anyone making fun of stellarfloppa is an arknot playerlmeowstella slop's twitter is still losing followers btw
>>1933891>brazil>-our resident shill isn't even spending on the game...
>>1934568Title screen changes depending on what you pick
>>1934558MC genderswap.AP will have a fixed male mc so we don't need that.
>>>/vg/554578948stellarsloppa 3 days agopic related is stella sloppa todayjaps are giving up on this shit lol
>>1934591AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAI don't really feel sadness, complete destruction is needed
>>1934591Do terminally online people unfollow things on a whim? I usually don't bother with it unless the account posted something i absolutely despise
>>1934551>hoyoslop in a perpetual STATE>wuwa degrading in quality with each patch>endfield literally putting people into povertygachaslop is reclining
>>1934591>-0.2%it's so over
>>1934591This game has no fucking hype at all behind it its shameful
>>1934597china fatigue
>>1934568It changes depending on your pick. But before you pick, the default is FeMC, yes.
>>1934618>But before you pick, the default is FeMC, yes.The default before you pick is a nondescript hooded figure. There's no way to tell if it's the male or female character. The imagery across the game also uses both players equally.
>>1934624Thank you ChatGPT
>>1934591The BA killer...
>>1934591Game targeted at trannies ofcourse it failed.
>>1934636That's RX thoughever
>>1934636looking at what happened to snowbroke recently it genuinely seems like chinks can't help themselves, make it even worse yostar is going for the jp audience
>>1934636ZAMN, this is the game for trannies i've been told to hate all along?
>>1934636Mmmm, yes, this will surely get people to play the game now
>>1934636>ba killerba killerBlue Archive killed himself. The guy who stole Project RX was one of the most recognized artists, and even he got bored with how garbage the game was becoming, so he tried to create his own game
>>1934641yeah bro only troons love shit like this, ugh disgusting
>>1934645Even Yong Ha became tired of BA that's why they are developing a clone of their own game instead of just expanding BA.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>1934595Japan does. matter of fact they don't understand the concept of dead subs, I know this when I was into vtuber 6 years ago, when they saw YouTube channel with more than 10 millions subs they think they're fake, botting and etc. Because normally Japanese people will unsubscribe if they're not watching their content anymore. That's why nurmberfagging is real culture in there>the social media only have 100k followers>NYOOOOO>only 1k likes in 1 hour>NYOOOOO
>>1934645>one of the most recognized artisti wonder who could be behind this post?
Are they following Yostar teaching or something?
I'm about boot up Endfield for the first time after slaving away at my black company, how true is this take?>genshin combat was already streamlined to hell and back for the most casual of casual players as the lowest common denominator and for some reason the endfield devs thought they needed to go even lower than that. What audience did they hope to catch beneath the bottom of the barrel, that enjoys "hold button" combat? They might as well could've added a auto button to this 3D action game for how little difference it makes, which is insane to me.
>>1934659genshin's combat is unironically more fun than endfield's
>>1934659>"hold button" combat? They might as well could've added a auto buttonAutoattack is actually standard in xenoblade
>>1934657Watch your mouth, Arktroon The only pulls that expired in Stella Sora were for the Christmas event and its exclusive unit, which was Xmas Laru
>>1934659Even if you opt out combat completely it's just not interesting although i'm saying this as someone who quit genshit after playing for several years
>>1934669shit vs turd comparison KEK
>>1934672arktroon arktroon
i'm arktroon btw
never played nor got interested in wuwa, but I just was the female mc, she makes my penis hard, I don't think I've ever been this hard for the female self insert aside from specific doujins about them (Gudako, Lumine)how can femwuwamc be so erotic
what a coincidence, i'm also arktroon
Did anyone investigate how is it even possible to bug the paypal payment?some people are assuming vibe coding but we all know HG is a very competent company
>>1934387Its polished in the same way as Dragon Age Veilguard was polished. Technically its really impressive both on my PC and 5 years old phone, but the story and characters are kinda awful.
https://x.com/Awk20000/status/2014939372953731215what do we think about /OURGUY/ being in trouble still
>>1934566More censored, gay, boring and stingy than Mihomo. Basically everything. The fags unironically thought that success equals money spent on marketing and flopped spectacularly because their game is that shit. It's Concord level of embarrassment honestly.
>>1934657>people who shit on GF2 gacha skin are defending Endfield gachaI see so it's not about the price of gacha if you have huge fanbase you could get away with anythingdeep down gachafags has no problem with predatory monetization that's why spark system still exist and they defend
>>1934704It's simply gay dudes defending the gay game, you try to rationalize things that have no impact on their judgement. Lowlight could literally shit in arktroons' mouths (he kinda did) and they would still try to defend it.
Endfield won
>>1934682Least AGP feMC picker ladies and gentlemen.
>>1934682Which is why it's unfortunate when such games only give you the option to either erase them or become them.
>>1934713Both Wuwa and Stella sora would literally break their own records if they released their FeMCs as units. It's crazy.
>>1934709? I want to rape femwuwamc, not be her though
>Sloppa poster on topJesus Christ.
>>1934722yeah, I sometimes fap to pink jesus as well
>>1934725this one specifically
>>1934722Wuwa barely gets fanart, please understand.
>>1934727I'm glad my penis isn't picky
FeMCxisters sure aren't sending their best....
>>1934729suman, I just lust over femrover
>>1934726is this also sloppa?
>>1934726madoka is so fucking sexy...
>>1934733don't know, nor does my penis careyou can search for it on pixiv
>>1934735upon closer inspection, it isnot judging btw i just want to properly sort the images i save
>>1934636>Firenze's out>Aeloria delayed indefinitelyseriously wish this game doesn't reach its first anniversary
>>1934739very well trained eye anon, you should add the tag on their pixiv then, I can't distinguish it
Stella Sora is a chibislop with almost no maintenance cost, it's doing fine. The same thing cannot be said about Endfield, it has higher production quality than the big 3 Mihoyo games combined. Their options are either EoS, go full gooner/ML or put it on life support like HI3.
>>1934743>Perlika looks like she's pregnantpicked up
>>1934743Pretty sure chinks have tolerated far worse gacha systems before. Endfield's problem runs worse than that.
>>1934741i dont really care about him lying about it
>>1934726>>1934741built for balding ojisan(me)
>>1934749she's definitely the most ojisan-coded of the five
>>1934743>release banners all female>female characters are all covered up and they put sneaky shipbait in their lorelol, maybe learn from Cyrene and Shunguang success next time.
>>1934755>shipbaitmaybe thats their intention in the first place
>>1934743>even genshin and hsr started adding ass jiggles>makes something even more safehorny than hsr and genshin>it flopsGOOD RIDDANCE.
>>1934758fanservice doesn't sell games
>>1934743Arkniggers century of humiliation
>>1934761Wuwa flopped at launch. Then they started adding more fan service, and the game survived. Now it's dying again because of the shipshit push. Look how they will backtrack again.
>>1934764This is what you wish happened but deep down you know the new direction will only push Wuwa to new heights.
>>1934766Agree. Wuwa needs to appeal more to non-incels players.
>>1934755>sneaky shipbaitIt's Arknights, it will be sneaky just for the first two months, then it will be all about shipping and shitting on the MC without any subterfuge
>>1934749>balding ojisan(me)so you're me...
>>1934780Endfield combat is garbage compared to zzz and wuwa even in the early game.
>>1934761It always did and always will.
>>1934780In every other game that's not a gacha an encounter that at least poses some difficulty happen very early on.
>>1934780>how to make the game harder>just bloat the enemies's HP plus time limitTHE GAMES.
>>1934781the xister is saying it's pretty normal for the early game not to be overly challenging, can you even read
>>1934787There's nothing challenging about Endfield combat at all outside of spending money.
>>1934780>it gets good 20 hours innever a valid argument.
>>1934791it literally was a valid argument for xenoblade x
>>1934791life gets relatively good, or rather, less shit, once you reach the age you can ejaculate thoughbeit
>>1934743>has no major issuesstopped reading right there
>>1934791It's a perfectly valid argument because gacha games are all about team building. What kind of team are you possibly building at the beginning of the game? Pretty much nothing, just a random mishmash of whatever shitter characters you're given. You're also really lowballing at 20 hours. Try more like 100+ hours.
>>1934800uhhhh
>>1934800what the fuck is that
>>1934802I don't remember if it was horizon or last whatever it was, it came up during a discussion on what mogged nikkek
>>1934780When it come for gameplay Wuwa>ZZZ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ShitfieldHoly fuck it's 2026 and Endfield only have 3 buttons>hold basic attack>press skill>press ult
>>1934800*vomits*
>>1934804Nah that's not Horizon Walker. Since it's 3D.
how long is this fucking tutorial world in endfield no wonder its dropping players I'd quit myself if I weren't an unemployed thirdie
>>1934817day 3 here, haven't done all the tutorials.
>>1934818Is the game mechanic that convoluted it needs long hours tutorial phase?
>>1934776>then it will be [cuck headcanon]
>>1934743there is no edge anywhere in this game. EVERYTHING is sterile and safe. story, combat, factory, character designs, tutorials, puzzles. the only interesting thing is the convoluted gacha.
>>1934826>[cuck headcanon]That shit doesn't fly when everyone already knows how Arknights is
What brownskinned topic shall we discuss today?
>>1934828>everyone already knowsYou crearly don't
>>1934832your favorite cc, saintontas
>>1934813then it's last origin
i heard chen is like the granddaughter of original AK chen which means this company just gonna ship female characters to whoever they want. fuck cuckfield. glad it flopped
>>1934841>chen is like the granddaughterShe's just some distant relative
>>1934834We love saintontas here faggot
>>1934845based poowajeet
Literally me
>>1934841>granddaughter of original AK chenah, so my niece-wife
>>1934849we know wuwabro we know
>>1934566game made for everyone so it appeals to no one
>>1934742just let the og AK fans fund the game. they love shipping, lesbian, homo and censorship, right?
>weYou're the only zoocuck here bwo
>>1934823No, it's braindead simple but has a lot of PLEASE CLICK HERE segments that pisses me off, do note that some of them are mandatory to progress the story.I'm already at the point where i'm just doing daily and log out and starting to think whether it's worth keeping 80 gigs im my drive.
>>1934849mexican
>>1934855Got him
>>1934849Still looks better than 95% of the posters here
>>1934875>5% me
>wuwajeets calling anyone a cuckkek
>Endfield is now 3.4 on google play lower than genshin, hsr, zzz>Same rating as Stella Sora now
>>1934875based saint
>>1934875Calm down with projections, tiny swarthy skinnyfat boi.
>>1934885Still pretty substantial achievement for a tranny game in such a bigoted market of literally hitlers. Endfield won.
APbros how are we feeling?
>>1934893good, the combat is only 2nd to ananta which is huge for an indie studio
>>1934893>AP>brosonly xisters here
How hard NTE and Ananta going to flop if even endfield end up like this?
>>1934905Ananta seems to be doubling down on female captain like retards so it will lose mlchads
>>1934908Only really mentally ill ML cucks care about femmc. There is a reason why 3 MHY games are still the most popular gacha while Snowbreak is at the bottom of the chart.
>>1934909You could've made a better case why Nikke of all things is mogging snowbleak
>>1934908>Ananta seems to be doubling down on female captainsource: my ass
>>1934908>browse website>female captain is nowhere to be seenkek
If AKfags are cultists then why is no one defending greenfield? Even the gachatubers shill defending is failing
>>1934905Ananta has a niche, NTE seems like yet another generic open world urbanslop.They're both each respective's Wuwa vs Genshin with similar atmosphere and gameplay but everything NTE wants to do, Ananta does it better.Ananta seems like it'll be more attractive to normalfags though, so NTE could have their 'niche' in appealing to MLfags
>>1934922HOLY ELS
>>1934922nobody but the tourists that endfield was made for are defending it
>>1934928>NTE>appealing to MLhe doesn't know
once again wuwon!
AKE is so bad even its CCs have to damage control with retention rate instead of the game's experience itself
>>1934938thanks for reminding me how eosfield's system is a worse version of the archer cone event.
>>1934928NTE bans any ML discussion and is okay with shipping in their official Chinese forum. It's over for that game.
Seems like NTE's ultimate purpose would be forcing Ananta to go full coomer
>>1934922Only poor third worlders and seaniggers will defend Endfield and Hypergryph, and they’ll probably drop the game a month later
>>1934945>will get shipped with a random maleWhat's the point?
>>1934949I already said it
>>1934947poor thirdies won't even be able to play the game considering that endfield has a fucking stricter device restriction on play store compared to other big gachas for some reason
>>1934949proof?
>>1934954just ask ToF
>>1934949>see a girl>immediately think about shippingMLxis...
>>1934938>Archer's sig>GreedyWasn't it free or something?I swear F2P players could get it
>>1934938bad faith comparison, the spending event is more 90% a copy of ZZZ's
>Qimai official ranking of the Top 100 gamesRanking criteria: Downloads Revenue Brand influence
>>1934945NTE is irrelevant especially with its shipping
>>1934967What shipping retard. It doesn't show anything that imply shipbait at all.
>>1934967proof?
>>1934945Their business model is apparently selling clothes, vehicle skins, and other appearance only shit. Coomer was their only option from the start anon.
>>1934988Their model is the same as endfield. Create 12+ censored mixed toilet slop with homos and furries, flopping spectacularly.
i'm playing kaleidoraider because it has a cute kemono waifur
>>1934993But its not out yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6A_vjqZWnM&t=12003sNTE won TapTap's "most anticipated game" award, beating Ananta, Honkai Nexus Anima and Petit Planet.Last year they won the same award as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDZliDVlc4s&t=6985s
>>1934996Same type of low grade marketing as endfield was doing.There is zero actual hype for that game, nobody cares about that game, nobody posts models, nobody knows how characters are even called. This game is DoA same way Endfield was.
>>1934764>Then they started adding more fan serviceThey still haven't made another girl like Taoqi and yes the elf doesn't count.
>>1934800These are the proportions of a Nioh monster.
>>1934996you know its rigged if they won twicethey even win against amazing game like Ananta, Endfield(this was before the fuck up) and AP
>>1934761Your LaDs?
>>1934893>not pokeman game>competing with Gen 10
>>1935003>implying Pokeshit matters for chinks.
>>1935000>trananta>EOSfield>azur troonmilia>amazing games
>>1935000taptap gave zzz game of the year so lol
>>1935007>wuwacuck still mad
>>1935009but enough about zzzootranny
>>1934965>54wuwon saar
>>1935000tencent won
Endfield has ship bait? I have just been skipping the whole story
Latest brown news?
it's going to be really funny if AP ends up doing better than endfield
>>1935032>ifAP's a Yostar title, it's guaranteed to hit #1 in every market.
>>1935033this comment is wrong on multiple levels it can't be anything but bait
good morning sirs! what company is evil today?
>>1935032>PAD sitting at its rightful #1 spotA true kamige.
>>1935032>Can't beat FGO
>>1935036Konami sir
>>1935039yugioh had yuri since time immemorial
>>1935032i was told this game was steal all of wuwa’s playerbase and dominate the gacha market, what happened?
>more open world slop when EoSfield has shown people are tired of it>no male characters so normies won't touch it>safe horny designs so coomers won't touch it>femMC so ML purists won't touch itAP still feels like it's a game made for no one to me. I'm sure it would have done fine 3-4 years ago but the gacha landscape has changed drastically in recent times.No one is going to drop their "insert gacha game they've already invested years of their life into here" for a family-friendly, 12+ age rating, yet another open world in yet another boring fantasy setting slopfest.
>>1935044only sissies cry about femc
>>1935044Endfield didn't pass the vibecheckAP passes the vibecheckhaving a shit story hurts endfield harderhaving a shit story doesn't affect Promilia
>>1935039>Yu Gi Oh became Yu Ri OhDropped, I'm burning my deck
>>1935049You weren't playing it anyways.
>>1935046who's gonna fuck the characters if the mc is a woman?
>>1935021Characters have no personalities to me so far
>>1935055nobody because it's not a koikatsu simulator
lollmao
>>1935048All vibes, we must keep the vibes. lmao
>>1935044what? it has males and blatant shipping which is why it's flopping.
New bread doko??
>>1935043Somehow the majority of gacha players appears to be not gay and ignored the tranny abomination.
>>1935044>EoSfield has shown people are tired of itThat's not what that game showed at all lmao
>>1935044Tranny, please. Endfield flops because it's yet another homoge nobody wants to touch.AP is the opposite of that so they'll do fine.
...if they remove femc
Endfield didn't flop.
>>1935077>can't even reach the top 3 in china on launch daylol
...in a universe where they pander to straightchads
>>1935081>meme chartsIt sold well.>>1935082It does pander to straight people with attractive female and male characters.
>>1935081>memecharts matter nowlemeow
>>1935084Memecharts for January arent out yet though.
>official apple rankings>meme chartslmeow arknotters
>>1935086get cancer
>brown shit flinging hours
>>1935089arKEKS
>>1935090>the pig said in the pen
Who got more humbled this month? Wuwakeks or Arknightfags?
you know there were no day 1 launch issue in China and yet Endfield still didnt hit spend cap on qimai
>>1935094Yes
Give me a good image for an OP
>>1935098>>1933142
>>1935083>attractive female and male characters.You don't actually believe this.
>>1935100That'll do.>>1935102>>1935102>>1935102
...if they remove the option to pick femc
>>1935032Did Endfield reach rank #1 in google/iOS the end?
>>1933885they started flopping when they went all in on waifupandering to mlfags
>>1934953Guess that leaves first worlders to play the game which means they are the ones defending it kek So much for deflecting towards "browns"
