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Baggots lost so hard again lmfao
NTE status?
Next To EoS status?
>>2013042Femcels lost bigly.
>Early thread just to shill snowbreakReminder that the game went down for 3 whole months and is giving less freebies than Trickcal, CZN, BA and pretty much every other game. Literally just getting the june anni freebies disguised as an apology and retards will eat it up.
will this thread ever be free of political grift
>>2013048They're going to pull "dev listened" gimmick anyway
>xister is a BAtroonexplains a lot really
>>2013048shut up foid
>>2013048Their maint tweet said they would give out 1 roll for every day of maint. Game went out for 90 days and are only giving out 60 rolls so they can't even do that right.Snowbreak's loyal sons will eat it all up while begging for others to support their grift anyway
>superhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-FFdY8En-w
>>2013054Maybe we'll actually see half a character during the next extreme teaser
Xisters coping and slopping.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SnowbreakOfficial/comments/1t66z71/this_goes_without_saying_but_if_you_like_the_game/>Please fund the devs, we're so poor we can't even commission fan art
>>2013056nuh uhprobably during next Insane teaser
>>2013048>>2013053Huh? The game went down early March right? Wasn't it just 60 days or so?
>>2013064It is. Xister is lying as usual.
Just accept your loss with dignity, xister. Don't be a sore loser.
>CyberTROONk: EdgreTROONers
>>2013066>xisters can't countI guess saar's education can only get that far...
>>2013023Damn I almost forgotNTE Lacrimosa rankingCN: #14JP: soonKR: soon
do snowcucks have anything other than calling everyone sisters or feminists
>>2013072>NTE LacrimosaIt's Hotori also her banner comes out 1 week after for JP/KR
Two more weeks
>>2013073cucks
>>2013073kys foid
>>2013072>CN: #14That's pretty bad for a game that just released.
>>2013077tell em sis
>>2013073Well, they do have a victim complex were everything and everyone is against them, when in fact the game dev are just incompetent fucks.
>>2013078Is it?
>>2013073That's snowbreak's entire game plan that the devs adopt too>Do retarded shit>Blame it on women>Fuck over players>Also blame it on women>Mess up patch or forget to add stuff>Blame it on feministsIt works so well that Brown Dust 2 adopted it and fixed their flopping game
Feminists aren't walking out of this like they are dindus. Don't even try, xisters.
>snobble returns>instant seethingFucking kekIt's like certain people reverted back to their original programming.
so what exactly have they been doing for the past 60 days besides sitting on their asses?
what does a gacha have to pull to usurp snowbreak as the official lolcow gacha
>>2013087Selling out snowbunnies' wives to pay rent.
>>2013087they censored every character and gave them spats for this year's anniversaryplease support them or chongchong will threaten eos again
>>2013087Sitting on my asses
Sisters seething over Snowbreak is peak /gdg/. Glad the game is coming back.
>>2013088Astrae Oratio will be the new lolcow gacha, snowcucks can't even compare to the sheer spite of a writer under investigation for corporate espionage and korea's most hated game company.Guy's game is even set during Imperial Japan in 1889 so you know it's going to be good
>>2013094good games can't be lolcows tho
>>20130932 more weeks before it's taken down by LADSyumes.
>good games
>>2013098and two more weeks until it comes back again!
>Snowbreak back>No Chink reactionsI guess MTLbro fucked off from these threads awhile ago.
>>2013102The CN feminists are going to report SB again
>>20131012 months*
>>2013078it's actually better than the launch banner
>>2013054I still don’t understand how they’re going to release this within the year even with repurposed assetsThese things usually need several months for testing aloneAlso the like/dislike ratio on that video oh my lawd
>>2013072I guess NTE is just Nikki tier.
>>2013117What do you not understand? Just repurpose the old game that got taken down, make it as low quality as possible and release it to milk money out of idiots.
>>2013072>NTE's banner did better than ZZZ nowlol, the urban audience did move to a better game
>>2013111kek. and the xister here will still say they're a bunch of dindu nuffin.
the femcel cries out in pain as it strikes you
>>2013129Hotta redemption arc
>>2013128I thought the objective was to kill BA, not make some quick bucks
>>2013130You'll lose again because in China Women's rights are superior than yours, dumb incel!The only good male is one getting fucked in the ass.
Loving the Micabro seethe
>snowcuck still seething about feministsI really swear that's literally the only way they know how to cope
Too bad women don't spend so they can never really stop games from pandering to men.
>>2013129LMAO at ZZZ that game is about to die, Ananta hasn't even dropped yet and they're already like that
>>2013058>we're so poor we can't even commission fan artDidn't they attack hentai website for hosting snowbreak porn? Maybe the reason why artists don't want to touch that game because of the game fanbase
the moment you start comparing your game's success to hoyo's worst performing gacha you've already lost
>>2013109Kek buttblasted snowjeets always post this image
Out of curiosity, how many of you are Korean?
Report>12 hours later>Over 4.6 million views>68k likes>15k retweets>1.4k commentsThe CP collab looks like it's going to boost wuwa a lot. That's only the initial EN tweet as well, the character tweets have similar numbers and it's even gotten subtweets with millions of views.Why don't other gacha do more serious collabs? The strategy seems viable so far.
>>2013151GFL have 10 millions views from webm thoughI don't know why you're using Twitter views like kpopfags
>>2013147They attacked Iwara because of the Lyfe NTR MMD, made a stinky over seasun's own commissined fan art during anni because "tits touching is yuri" and even threw under the bus a few fellow ML Artists because they made a NTR joke.Last thing I remember was them attacking Blade during last summer because the fanbox art he did for SB had 2 dudes fucking Fenny / Siris.
>>2013162NTR is a fetish for people who hate themselves so this is a based thing to do.
>>2013147Why don't just use AI?
Feel good NTE finally won after months of doomposting bwos!
>>2013155Nothing else to measure with yet and u got bored of the resident seether
>>2013168Every fan art for snowbreak is AI, feel free to check their pixiv tag 尘白禁区.>>2013166That's why the CN reddit posted said their ML forums was paying NTR AI artists to "stop making SB NTR"?
>>2013171I*
>>2013151You know you can just use bots to boost likes right?
>xisters go back to spreading misinfo about snowbreak It's like you are all pre programmed npcs.
>>2013178>le misinfoWas during your summer coser meltie, when your "ML extremists" cried tears of blood because MuMu called them fags.Oh, sorry, I forgot! It was all a False flag!
>>2013181>least mentally ill mlfan.jpg
SnowbreakCHADS I KNEEL
>Indie Game “Cartography Journey” Developer Pipapo Games Posts on Reddit Claiming Genshin Impact Recent Event Plagiarized Their Gamehttps://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=46730275
>>2013042return of the king
>>2013162>They attacked Iwara because of the Lyfe NTR MMDApparently that video was the most popular snowbreak porn that mean snoggers love that type of genre, so all these times they were projecting their ntr fetish to others fanbase.
>>2013188this is not anything new saar, they genuinely think they created something themselves
>>2013188Which is funny because I fucking hated that event lol.
You have to take the loss, xisters. The fact that it keeps coming back despite the contant attacks means it must be extremely profitable. Just accept that you are not welcome in this industry.
>>2013202>extremely profitable>already axing VAs after 3 patches
>>2013206I don't know why we're pretending this matters when everyone just uses jap anyway
KamiBreak MindBroke you
here comes the kinocope
>>2013206>en vaI don't want my money to go to people with pronouns in their bio. Simple as.
>>2013209Just more proof the devs are incompetent retards that waste money instead of making the game better, just like the time they gave out money for Mechabreak
>>2013206>kr>enWhat did the feminists do this time?
>>2013214>just like the time they gave out money for Mechabreak>crippled SB team to focus on MB>MB still dyingKEK
>EN VAs
Snobble devs should give harem of jade beauty cosplayers to breed and only then i will redownload
>>2013206This is the game where they hide CN VAs name too right? >snoggers keep harassing CN VAs>Seasun decided to hide their nameLmao that was funny
>>2013219Except it was feminist harrassing them, xis. You can't get your misinformation past me.
>>2013219it was actually feminist falseflaggers harassing them for starring in a icky incel game
What did we learn? Xisters always lie.
>>2013218>cosplayersThat's problematic anon did you forget snoggers marching to Seasun HQ because of Cosplay event?
>>2013225Because one of the cosplayers was a feminist. Considering they keep attacking the game snoggers were right.
>>2013196you're confusing the azur lane fanbase, may aswell rename the game to blacked lane
>>2013217>en nte va puts out a statement saying she will no longer work with nte because of ai >look up who she voiced>additional voicesThis is why they just shouldn't bother with en dubs. Even the literal who's that voice background character #7 act like divas.
Micabros working overtime
What make Mica living rent free inside snoggers head?
>>2013230Now that the rightful king has returned, there is no need to have a pretender on the throne.
>>2013231Because they're Raymond cucks that left GF for SB.
>What makeSAAR
>>2013214>>2013216They are fucking stupidThey had good momentum with SB in 2024, going from almost EOS to rank 10-20ish in CNBut instead of using that money to make the game better, they used it to fund Mechabreak
>>2013196Iwara is all NTR as their favorite fetish, not exclusive to any game
Whiich one is the bigger rent free?GFL in the head of snoggersor Snowbreak in the head GFLniggers
It's actually xister falseflags on both sides.
>>2013048Game is dead either way dude, no one is coming back to play a game that was dead for 3 months. That will become obvious in the next revenue report.
GLchads are too busy playing our games tho
What are you gonna do, sis? Rig the revenue to zero? Kek.
This goes without saying but if you like the game, please support it.If you're F2P, reviews and word of mouth. You matter just as much as spenders!If you're a spender, spend.If you're a creative, make videos, animations, music, artwork, etc.After suffering defeat at the hands of undesirables, the game has (understandably) lost some of its playerbase across these two long months. So now, more than ever, do we need to come together and show we love this game.It's true that consumer and companies are not friends so we aren't under any obligation but I love this game.I said before that if the game came back uncensored - they haven't announced that anything is censored - then I would unequivocally show my support. I plan to keep my word.
I was told that Snobble would die and nobody cares about it by this general
>>2013080Does incompetency lead to couple months of downtime because of an investigation?
>>2013254But /gdg/ trannies say none of that matters, only how hard the developers rape your wallet
>>2013256it does
>>2013251This idk if i want to play if its just gonna eos out of nowhere for whatever reason
I might try Snowbreak solely because of that foxgirl bitch
>>2013263I LOVE BRITAIN
>[sad news]Even /VT/ is making fun of korean men now
>>2013265Why? What happened?
>>2013254maybe its just time to admit snowbreak is kinda shit
>>2013269They're limiting the game for making it available on mobile they should use the 3 months downtime to make real PC version and abandoned mobile.
snowgawds stole my gf
>>2013251not only that, but what guarantee is there that troons won't ramp up attacks again because they have been emboldened. I'm tired of CN drama affecting us, i want decoupling from their server again, EN should have their own server and build (uncensored), there is no reason for us to go down with them. Do what manjuu did with azur lane, they have no issues, and the game is more lewd than ever.
Why did feminists not get GFL2 shut down? Isn't almost if not just as much ML as snowbreak was? Did they let it slide because of Raymond and female MC?
>>2013267Kronii from Hololive got hired to VA for a game she previously played and said killing the boar enemies was "boaring". this somehow insulted the feelings of 25 million Korean males. they had meltdowns on their forums to have her replaced (The cuck devs complied) and the /vt/ threads about it are nothing but dick jokes
>>2013273mica didnt groom their community to shitfling at every single company at once
Yea i have to agree, no other gacha even comes close after playing most of the ones worth playing. Funnily enough Wuwa is similar to Cyberpunk, both games had rough starts but had devs that actually cared about quality instead of profit and after all these years it shows.
>>2013279>quality >massively downgraded compared to the trailers lmao
>>2013274they are not beating the allegations
>>2013279Wuwa only keeps getting closer and closer to mihomos tf you talking about
>>2013276Yes because feminists famous leave men's spaces alone if they just mind their own business
>>2013284evidently they are for mica soo lol
>eceleb>vtumorgacha?
>>2013279This guy accidentally upscale Genshin because right now Wuwa is taking Genshin path LMAO
>>2013284That's seems exactly to be the case this time, no? GFLfags don't blindly lash out to everyone so no one try to directly report them. Or the ones who do try are too few in number and can't gain enough reporting support, because GFL don't have that many haters.
>>2013279Oh hey its this homo who plays exclusively as female MC, cries at every point that the girls should be covered up from head to toe, that there should be a lot more male units and male NPCs in the story, and that lolis are evil and should be deleted. No wonder he likes the game being "legitimized" by deleting the fanservice and pandering.In the end I guess he won, considering the current state of wuwa.
>>2013289>That's seems exactly to be the case this time, no?Oh yeah was that the reason unrelated games like azur lane got hit by those censorship waves started by feminist arknights players back in 2022? Get it through your head sister, no one is buying your shit
>>2013286The game that hired and replaced her was a MMO gacha
>>2013289Various games got hit by censorship waves and are forced to use censorship spats because of feminists. You are not fooling anyone.
>>2013291>arknightsThere is your answer
>>2013294>Various games got hit by censorship waves and are forced to use censorship spats because of feminists.Bros we all know that these dev selfcensor their game.
>>2013286Yes.Getting 5* eceleb in vtumor banner is hard due to 0.0067% gacha rate.
>>2013296And the cause for that is usually too many women infiltrating the dev team just like it happened with Genshin and Wuwa. Women can deflect all they want but they are the problem.
>>2013291>arknights>back in 2022Lmao it was even earlier, and while the reasoning is similar (arkniggers being pro censorship), it's less ideological than snoggers vs femcels. Arkniggers vs boatfuckers was just siblings beef fighting to be Yostar's golden child.
Alright, no memeing, no shitposting, serious answers only: how do you think AO will fare? Assume the character designs are straight fire.
>>2013301>no memeing, no shitposting, serious answers onlyThis is not a place for that
>>2013301if the AI allegations are real then it's DOA, otherwise it entirely depends on whether the story has a strong hook or not
>>2013301The character designs will be fire and you will see the meltdowns from the BAloonies
>>2013284If you show GFL2 webm to a feminist, they would definitely want that game to be censored.But that's the thing, you have to make them aware GFL2 even exist in the first place.Snobbles on the other hand, just can't help but making themselves known directly to the feminists.
>>2013301If the characters are KV tier, probably preddy good. Otherwise stella floppa 2.0
>>2013306This guy could be fucking his wife and he'd still be thinking about baggots during it
I believe in my nigga DoReMi
>>2013299Actually it's for advertisement PG+13 game can shown up at the frontpage or public place like billboard and etc.You probably don't know about China laws for game restricting minors to one hour of gameplay only on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and public holiday.
>>2013311Snowbreak is 18+ in China.
Eroges got killed off just so gacha can censor itself for gaIllion times, where is my panty shots fuck this gay earth.
>>2013301>Assume the character designs are straight fire.Depends on the gameplay. If it's the same as BA or worse no one will drop the game they have been playing for years to start again.
>>2013313>Eroges got killed offyou live in a different reality from me
>>2013301If they had "fire" characters, they'd show those already
>>2013274>this drama happened after Persona 5 collabWe are witnessing another game going to get killed because of persona collab
>>2013317thiswe had a week's worth of countdown leading to this shit.why the fuck would you only show the environmental art if you have some character art to show, nobody cares about the background.that being said the KV staff has a ton of artists (and no programmers lol) so it really shouldn't be this hard for them to draw something, which just makes the whole matter all the more stranger.
>>2013306lmao got xem
>>2013316Gacha replaced eroge, idk what you even mean.
>>2013276You do remember that the mlfags who moved to snowkek were from gfl2 right? They were the dramafags during the Reymond shit and used snowkek as their next host to parasitize.
>>2013301BAfags will troon out and try to kill it like the feminists do to snowkek.
>>2013301good character designs are to be expected but if the game and story aren't better than the one they're to replace its completely pointless
Why do BAggots hate other gachas so much? I’ve seen them bitch and whine about Uma Musume and what a big threat it is to Blue Archive
>>2013329Didn't the writer who was responsible for the best BA story chapters leave to join this new company too?
>>2013332ultimate form of indoctrination and tribalism, look how they crucified stella sora and now astral horatio for the pettiest reasons imaginable
>>2013334Man AO is such a bad name I haven't seen anybody spell it correctly.
>>2013326But GFL1 never have that level of derangement in the community? Are you sure they are GFL1 players who have been playing since 2016?
>>2013333Yes, now /bag/ made a complete 180 on the early volumes of BA because of the drama.
I'm going to report you to the CCP again
>>2013335assoral is about as good as it gets
>>2013334I don't think hating a game for pandering to your number 1 enemy (yuri loonies) is exactly unreasonable...
>>2013343I still can't believe SS decided to throw the MC under the bus and literally went full canon FMC at this point only for their revenue to continue dropping. kek
>>2013343>picks femc>complains about yuri
>>2013274Why would Koreans even be insulted by that? Seems like a harmless stupid wordplay. I am so confused.
>>2013346it's not hard to understand why
>>2013352This works for every mixed toilet game
It doesn't matter if AO has the best designs and story in the market baggots are so well domesticated that they will just pick up any minor flaw and do olympic laps around it, just look at the AI accusations they tried last thread to no success.
>>2013350They're seething hard right now, bigger meltdown than BA vs AO.
>>2013348Its yuricoded sometimes you get called she even though you picked male, and event prieviews is always femc lol.
why are they blocking comments?
>>2013333He was also responsible for the worst and the writing has gotten better overall after he left
What gacha should i pick up after i finish rance, since eroges got killed off thanks to gachamongs surely there is something as good as rance out there?
>AI so noticeable that even the biggest gathering of jap BA antis can notice it in a nanosecond>"n-n-nobody cares!!!!!"
>>2013359Blue Archive is still among the best.
>>2013353mixed toilet games play it safe specifically to avoid this kind of situation, SS has went too hard in both directions so you can't simply ignore the parts you don't like
@grok prepare five passive aggressive remarks directed towards /bag/gots
>>2013359BA
KILLS MIHOMO
I'm noticing how other gacha games don't have such aggressive damage control and whiteknighting as BA does here.
>>2013366They/them mc is too big of pussy to get compared to rance games cmon man
>>2013368Snowkek...
>>2013359no gacha allows molesting young girls so you're out of luck, you can cope with hgacha or just keep playing eroge
total baggot death...total baggot death...total...
Isn't the reaction to AO pretty normal?>Make a week long countdown for hype>Some retards here touting it as the x-killer>Countdown ends and it's probably one of the worst trailers you can releaseLiterally any other gacha would get shit on.
>>2013367truke
>>2013357It was being spammed by BAfags.
>>2013378no but it shits on BA so it must be a good game and anyone who criticize against it is a baggot!!!!seriously though if any other "ML"game did the same thing this thread would had ripped it apart.
>>2013378AO has no hope to succeed when Project RX is coming out soon anyway
BA can destroy corrupt government offices so they'll completely annihilate AO.
>>2013356Straight men want to see the cute girl instead of a twink shota, i don't think that's unreasonable.
>>2013368the desperate crying for attention the past week has made that clear, yes
Is BA the Genshin of gacha games?
>>2013388not even close
>dislikes surpassed likesAshtraybros, are we doomed?
>>2013386Sorry i dont have agp sister
>>2013390What do you think Dynamis one's reaction to this is?
>>2013388>legion of sunk cost retards that shit on everything for having the most numbers in some aspectyup, it fits perfectly
>>2013394Hopefully NCSoft lit a fire in their ass to at least reveal some designs
But who's the Electronic Arts of gacha?
>>2013388so who's gonna be the wuwa?
>SB returns >Thread immediately stop being about hoyojeet and kurojeet throwing poo at each other it's that easy
good morning sirs is korea as evil mihomo today?
>>2013317>>2013322Surely they already have a slew of designs ready and this was just some marketing ployThey’re launching the game this year, after all
>>2013402>They’re launching the game this year, after allno fucking way this is realthey already had nothing but character designs to show back in project KV (there was literally no game) and IIRC the gook courts made them delete everything there.unless NCsoft already has a skeleton of a game for them to flesh out there's no way they are releasing anything this year.
Take notes this is how you do proper 3D modeling. Unmatched.
>>2013367Micabro btw
>>2013405If only their original characters are just as good.
>>2013412>If only their original characters are just as good.SAAR
>>2013414?
>>2013419Here you go, brownbro
>>2013404The PV said “beginning in 2026” so unless they meant the project as a whole (and thus the very PV) then yes that’s how I’m interpreting itThe clock is ticking for them, too, because the longer they take, the more of a chance it doesn’t come out due to the lawsuit
>>2013422So you don't deny the other models are shit.
THE RETVRN OF THE KING! ALL HAIL TO SNOWGODS!
>>2013412Not only are they just as good but they also, like the collab characters, mog any other gacha.
>>2013427I don't actually, most of WuWa designs look bad imo (like all chink gachas).But on the other hand if you can't speak proper english you should refrain from using the internet. It'll only make you brownies look worse.
good morning sirs let's get defensive too today
>>2013332BA is the only global gacha with a semblance of continuous lolicon pandering. They are so aggressive towards anything that could "kill" BA because if their game is gone they will have to return to one of the many games that release one loli with granny panties once a year.
>>2013436It's a fandom propped by comiket numbers, once these numbers plummet so will the BA fags realizing the decreasing number of doujins every subsequent comiket and thus popularity. Happened to every franchise before them, will happen to them too.
>>2013117This shit is NOT releasing in 2026. I would've believed the 2026 release window if they had shown any gameplay, or even just some character designs. What they showed is a concept teaser shown by projects that are 3-4 years out from release.
assoral will kill BA...assoral will kill BA...assoral will...
>>2013442Then what the fuck is the “starting in 2026” about? Why even announce your presence this early?
Unironically what games are worth picking up
>>2013445>gachashitNothingIf you want story and gameplay then play some normal game or emulate older games, if you want "ML" then read visual novels or light novels, and if you're horny just watch porn or read doujinsGachas are the worst option for everything
>>2013446Trvke but i have this retarded gacha craving unfortunely and im too burn out from vns feels like reading same story everytime and eroge market is just dead.
>>2013445Blue Archive
>>2013446Garbage take.Most older games somehow manage to have worse gameplay than most gachas.Visual novels are literal fucking PNGs instead of sexy fully modeled 3D characters.
>>2013445Crimson desert
>>2013301>serious answers onlyLogically it will get a little boost from the BA association but not enough to assure it relevancy, so it will be heavily dependent on what they're actually delivering. Same thing as BA? People already have BA, so AO gets secondary priority and falls off as time goes on. Slightly better/different/more creative? Perhaps more assured of steady income but still not that likely to be comparable to BA because of current gacha saturation and competition. If they can make it properly amazing they'll give BA a run for its money but that's going to be hard. Also worth considering the devs appear to be the type who can't take criticism or trolls so that doesn't bode well.
>>2013448get into erogacha
>>2013460I tried and i cba learning bugmen language, it was good while it lasted tho muv luv was pretty good and im sure there is many more decent games.
Trickcal won
>>2013446TRVKE. /gay dudes general/ isn't ready for this.
>>2013273It has quite large female audience in china
Snowbreak won, not your chibishit for yuritroons
>>2013367
Endfield status?
>>2013471As someone completely neutral about Endfield, I’ve been seeing it a lot less on my TL latelyWhy, I couldn’t tell you
>>2013446you're too reasonable for this thread my dude, how did you even find your way here
>>2013471As number one hypergyph glazer i think it has no future, eos next patch.
>>2013476What about Arknights?
>>2013439Why is he black
>>2013446Vndeniable trvth nvkeWe are all here just to shit on gachas, after all.
im still mongiling
>>2013472>52 day long patch with only a single new banner
>>2013480>If you want story and gameplay then play some normal game or emulate older gamesExamples that aren't 10-year-old games that everyone already played?>if you want "ML" then read visual novels or light novelsmaybe>if you're horny just watch porn or read doujinsporn is not interactive and its too extreme, gachas are for teasing
good morning sirs, did wuwon?
>>2013263lol
>>2013469yeah, this is game is going to be pozzed and infected by undesirables.
>>2013502?? why not use saber or archer for the comparison? That's very obviously not supposed to be medea
Kaleidorider when?
>>2013469Those muscles look so funny, they look like he injected cooking oil into his skin. Real strong niggas look like thishttps://youtu.be/8uBS9OYa2P8
>>2013518That's literally supposed to be her. They only modeled the playable units and used generic low poly NPC for the rest, including of course the maps. Wuwa has also david and adam smasher and they fully modeled.
>>2013502Holy kekWhat a sad garbage
>>2013485based mongoid
