These are the Kantomons without some sort of gimmick. Not many left now.
>>58150516the most dexfiller of all dexfiller. There’s a reason shit like parasect hasn’t been allowed in a vgc supported game since usum
>>58150516Where is Wigglytuff. It hasn't gotten anything>muh fairy retconFuck off
>>58150527fairy retcon and igglybuff. just because they're not useful doesn't mean they don't count.
>>58150516We will get a Psyduck regional variant soon.Golduck is such a forgettable shitmon
>>58150527>>58150534Scream tail
>>58150523The Nidos are pretty popular mons. Arbok too. It's surprising they haven't got anything yet.
>>58150516parasect's literally a gimmick already, a spore user. pretty early too compared to shit like shroomish
>>58150538... why DID they base screamtail off jiggly instead of wiggly? wiggly is hideous, yes, but that is weird right?
>>58150516I picture the Nido's getting a golden god emperor form
>>58150570Wiggly is forever cucked because boomer devs think people still care about the anime.Giggly is one of the most unpopular smash characters
I'd argue gender differences is the Nido gimmick
>>58150516Based nibroking, I do wish he'd get a mega with more speed however
>>58150594This obviously means gimmicks such as new forms or evolutions or Z moves post their introductory gen, you obtuse faggot
>>58150598You get a mega with +30 on attack and SpA, and +20 on Def and SpDefRaughs
>>58150516Fearow's gimmick is that it's the secret preevo of ho-oh, thoughbeit
>>58150606That’s a retarded gimmick althougheverbiet
>>581505703 of the Scarlet paradoxes were based on NFE mons
>>58150516Fearow should become an important bird of unusually large size
>>58150534If that counts then Golduck and Cloyster should be gone too because they were given unique abilities (Cloud Nine and Skill Link).
>>58150527Seaking desperately needs something.Most of these at least got some cool ability later on like Sheer Force Nido or Shell Smash Closyer. Hypno got its lore rewritten even. Seaking just gets Lightningrod. Completely useless!
>>58150516Based CHADbok and KINGdoQUEENS
>>58150755Electric immunity on a Water type is not useless at all.
>>58150516Psyduck is Masuda's favorite Pokemon. Golduck won't get anything until Masuda is dead.
>>58150606I just tried Eviolite on it and it didn't work. You're full of shit.
>>58150523I feel Paras and Parasect still got a good presence in PLA cause they are probably the most memorable "Super Aggressive" mon since you encounter them early and they tend to swarm. Not a gimmick unique to them sure, but i feel like when people think of THOSE mons Paras/Parasect seem to be the headliner.
>>58150516Old image, but technically the fossils and Ditto count as well. If GameFreak does more special Pokemon like Paradox Pokemon, I can see them as candidates.As far as who gets what though:>FearowFeel like a regional line would suffice. Pokemon Infinity had a really cool one.>ArbokEither a cross-gen evo or a Mega. I've seen some really cool Poison/Dragon designs.>NidosThe Nidos were ripe for new Megas IMO, but they could receive a lookalike line that lacks the gender differences.>ParasectStill feel like Bug/Ghost could work for a Mega>GolduckRegional line or maybe a Water/Psychic cross-gen evo? Suppose a lookalike line could work, too.>VenomothUmm maybe a regional Venonat with a unique evolution?>DodrioMega or regional line. Going part-Dragon could be cool, even though I feel like hydras are overdone now.>DewgongKinda surprised this one hasn't received a Mega.>CloysterAlso feel like a Mega would be best for this one. >HypnoYeah this one's hard. Maybe a lookalike line?>SeakingPokemon Elite Redux has an evolution for it that looked pretty cool.
>>58150784They will make genderless Nidomonarch
>>58150784I think a Paras split evo that gets rid of the spores or a Parasect evo with the dead husk would work fine. Not everything needs a mega.
>>58150784Paradoxes and fake regionals are related only by design, I would count Tentacruel in.
>>58150594Then it isnt because the nidos dont actually have gender differences: they're 2 totally different evolution lines that are lore related.
>>58150516>without a gimmick>Cloyster>Hypno
>>58150823What's the gimmick?
>>58150784>NidosNow that I think about it, Nidoking and Nidoqueen would've been perfect for paradox forms. Have one be ancient paradox, the other future paradox.Iron Patriarch/Matriarch<Insert cool adjective here> Patriarch/Matriarch
>>58150516>Fearow>Parasect>VenomothGive them an evo via ancient power
>>58150535I really hope so. If they're going to insist on putting in Psyduck every fucking game at least make it able to evolve into something interesting.
>>58150516Where's Jynx?
>>58150516Tentacruel's is kind of a stretch. Ecologically similar Pokémon don't even have an official label. Regional fakes is fanfiction.
>>58150516Did Vileplume get something?
>>58150965I don't think it's necessarily gimmicks but Pokémon that were touched up on at all in a later generation. Jynx got Smoochum. In the same vein Rhydon isn't on there because it got Rhyperior.
>>58151420Bellossom
>>58150736a whole prevo is not the same as an ability
>>58151453That's a "no" then.
>>58151505The line got add-ons, that's what this is all about
>>58151514No, it's not. Stop moving the goalposts.
>>58151505Vileplume got +10 special attack in Gen 6. So there's a generational change for your rules. You aren't the one that decided the rules.
>>58151526Where were the rules posted ITT?Quote them.
>>58151531rule 1: op is a fag
>>58151537>No quote:/
>>58151519It's really obvious when I'm talking to an autist. You obtuse retards always out yourselves so easily. No wonder you have no friends.
>>58151546>Moves goalposts>Makes up "facts" about meYou really are upset, aren't you? Why?
>that shitmon Victreebel got a Mega before Nidoqueen and Nidoking Another reason to hate KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>58151488Skill Link is a hell of a lot more significant as an upgrade, even Cloud Nine would be pretty good if it wasn't stuck on a shitmon.
I thought spergs were supposed to be good at pattern recognition
Why so upset?
>>58151453That's not Vileplume getting something, that's Gloom at best. Try again
>>58151591It's the LINE getting something you obtuse retard. Great Tusk isn't a Donphan form or evolution either but the line still got something.
>>58151600No they didn't.Donphan and Phanpy can't become a Great Tusk, it does not benefit my Donphanthat there is a Great Tusk whatsoever. Therefore they got nothing.
>>58151612I agree, Paradoxes and fake regionals shouldn't count.But split evos do.
>>58151628>But split evos do.Why?Tell me exactly what you think Vileplume gains by Bellosm existing and vice versa.
>>58150784You forgot Mew.
>>58151635>Tell me exactly what you think Vileplume gains by Bellosm existing and vice versa.another member of the evolutionary family, thus ensuring that one will always be present if the other is
>>58150516What is Jynx's gimmick exactly?Babby pre evo doesn't count.
>>58150583I agree Wigglytuff deserves better, but Puff is one of the most fun fighters in most smash games. Dat fucking air control and rest kos are the shit
>>58151644Z move
>>58151600The op isn't "the Kantomon lines" it's just "Kantomons", as it stands Vileplume hasn't gotten anything
>>58151635The final evos represent the evolutionary line, not just themselves.Basic forms could be used as well but this makes less sense because it's usually the final form that gets something new.By your logic, babbies shouldn't count too.
>>58151696Not a form or something that alters the evo line.So, getting a signature move also counts in your books?
>>58151674Not a benefit.Just a cope.>>58151712Sort of correct, except the babies often get you a unique move or two, so it's a net-gain by definition in some cases.
>>58150784>>Fearow>Feel like a regional line would suffice. Pokemon Infinity had a really cool one.nah just give it a dark type evolution>>Parasect>Still feel like Bug/Ghost could work for a MegaI think that idea works better as an evolution>>Dewgong>Kinda surprised this one hasn't received a Mega.because dewgong's too plain/boring, give a regional at least a full type swap would be more interesting
>>58151704Neither has Bulbasaur or Ivysaur or most NFEs. God, kill yourself.
>>58150731Misdreavus and Magneton were fully evolved when they were introduced in their generation
>>58151835But not when SV came out.So what's your point?
>>58151844It's a singularity only Wiggly has
HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED, but here's the Johtomons without anything special.>FurretI've love to see a Normal/Ice regional line>NoctowlPsychic/Flying or Ghost/Flying cross-gen evo>LedianBug/Fighting cross-gen evo or Mega>AriadosCross-gen evo or maybe a lookalike line?>LanturnCross-gen evo or Mega>XatuMaybe Psychic/Fighting or Fighting/Flying to go with the combative Native American themes?>JumpluffMega or regional line>SunfloraGrass/Fire cross-gen evo and I will die on that hill>ForetressMaybe a lookalike line?>ShuckleMega or regional form>MagcargoCross-gen evo>OctilleryWater/Fire cross-gen evo or Mega>SmeargleRegional form>MiltankRegional form
>>58151851What is?
>>58151859What I said
>>58151862Would you mind repeating it? Thanks.
>>58151864No, reread
>>58151867I re-read the whole thread and don't know what "the singularity only Wigglytuff has" is.Do you mind clarifying what you meant? There's no need to be scared. This isn't some GOTCHA moment.
>>58151888I feel sorry for you, that's all I'm gonna say
>>58151899Why can't you do it? It's a very simple request.
>>58151857>>Furret>I've love to see a Normal/Ice regional linea gigantamax where it grows even longer would've been perfect, maybe in galar legends game>>Octillery>Water/Fire cross-gen evo or MegaI think a water/steel mega that really leans more into the tank aspect would've been better
>>58150784Ditto got a new ability in Gen 5, there is nothing more for it to get.
>>58152119it also got being able to fuck everything in gen 2
>>58151857Is there any image like this for Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova?
>>58150523>the most dexfiller of all dexfillerThe shill pseudo legendary was part of the group until one month ago
>>58152133I do not have one for Sinnoh and Unova, but I do have one for Hoenn!There's a lot in this list, so I'll only cover the ones I have ideas for.>MightyenaCross-gen evolution. Z-A was the perfect opportunity for one based off the Beast of Gévaudan.>PellipperIMO a G-Max could've been quite funny. And I hate G-Max forms.>SlakingRegional form that's the inverse of lazy.>WailordI've seen some really cool landwhale regional and lookalike lines.>FlygonMega obviously, but otherwise a regional or lookalike Bug/Dragon line would work.>MiloticWater/Fairy Mega>TropiusMaybe a Mega?>ChimechoCross-gen evolution material, but not sure what to go with for it.>WalreinRegional like could be cool.Also not sure why Dusclops is here. Guess whoever made it forgot about Dusknoir.
>>58152507>>Wailordprime gmax meme material>>Chimecho>Cross-gen evolution material, but not sure what to go with for it.maybe you could give it a pre-evo that's a small bell, call it chingling
>>58152522>maybe you could give it a pre-evo that's a small bell, call it chinglingOh yeah lmao. Guess I can't blame the guy for forgetting that one.
>>58150570>>58151835the idea is that due to the past association they're supposed to be species from before the line developed their actual evolutions
>>58151857What would a regional Smeargle do? It's Smeargle. Is it just still gonna be a Sketch user? If so, why bother making a new version at all?
>>58150523Parasect got Shiinotic as a parallel pokemon in gen Vii (same bst, quasi version exclusive)Same treatment as Masquerain/Araquanid
>>58152447Multiscale.
>>58150516Cloyster is not getting anything ever considered it's a vaginaShellder has gotten tons of stuff tho, counting Slowking and Slowbro
>>58150516Paras and Doduo have cut preevos (Goldeen too?)Anyways place your beta for greek god forms in gen X
>>58150516>FearowBottom of the barrel Mon nobody cares about it so it's not getting anything >ArbokFairly popular because of the anime I think it's face pattern gimmick could be expanded on>Nidoking and Nidoqueen Give us liberty Give us fireGive us a mega or we retire>ParasectThe only way I can see parasect get anything is if it gets a regional variant or convergent form or a split evolution for Paras>GolduckGolduck can't keep living off his temu psychic power he needs an evolution>VenomothMaybe venomoth can get a mothman evolution but I think that works better as it's own pokemon I don't think it'll get anything any time soon >DodrioIf fearow is the bottom of the barrel dodrio is in between the top and bottom I think a mega is the only option for this thing >DewgongEvolution is the only option for dewgong>CloysterCloyster is odd because shellder technically has multiple new forms meanwhile cloyster is just kinda there, a regional variant would be cool they can finally use that scrapped beta shellder evolution >HypnoNever getting an evolution it's been black balled>Seaking God no, imagine a fish Mon getting anything new
>>58150516I'm genuinely shocked Psyduck hasn't gotten a regional variant yet. Like that's definitely a meowth/eevee tier pokemon when it comes to marketing yet he hasn't gotten a single variant. Maybe they just consider Psyduck perfect.
>>58152658>God no, imagine a fish Mon getting anything newBasculegion turned a generic literal confirmed-by-Gamefreak filler fishmon into an awesome design.
>>58150583The only people who hate Jigglypuff in Smash from what I see are relevancy fags who thinks everything needs to be in the spotlight if they want to deserve their spot in Smash
>>58150516Personally, I’m hoping for a regional paras/parasect form that evolves into a bug ghost type, with the spirit of the bug reasserting control after the body has been completely drained of life. Or something like that. I really just wanna see a version of parasect that isn’t controlled by the mushroom.
