Post Mays, Harukas, Sapphires, and her Pokémon too!May OC:>https://pastebin.com/EH8hZtEqMay Identification Guide (in progress):>https://rentry.co/vp-mg-may-ID-guideOC Artwork Gallery:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-OC-ArtOC Fanfiction Library:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-OC-Fanfic/mg/ Anon's Hoenn Anime Episodes Recap (in progress):>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-Anime-RecapGame Resources/Assets Collection:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-game-resourcesSapphire Birch page:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-sapphire-birchImage Edit Gallery:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-image-editsPrevious: >>58165628>>58180956
Current /mg/ drawfag project: drawing Mays in all Pokemon types! Entries accepted for types that haven't been covered yet. No deadline.Also looking for Dragon type anon to share the front drawing since the link they provided is dead >>58154069
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>>58186688Ahh, catbox base was being fucky thenhttps://files.catbox.moe/l2cox5.pngHere ya go!
>>58186586This just makes it sound like you cooked May into a pie like Hansel and Gretel
>>58186697Very nice. Updated!Previous >>58186688
>>58186586I want to fill May's pie with cream.
>>58186692early investment!
>>58186905Colored backgrounds, based
>>58187285>>58187313That was amazing pics and perfect big milkfilled tits
>>58187407Yup. Also filled with hope and dreams. May is the perfect thicc pokegirl.
>>58184753https://x.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1076658877700005888Got a bit confused with the Kansai one but it's him responding to a fan's headcanon that Ruby taught himself to suppress his own Kansai accent (think like how Bill speaks). But Yamamoto says Norman would just speak back to Ruby in a really rough accent. I'll find the other one where he was planned to speak like a delinquent. Yamamoto does say he actually wrote Norman's dialogue, because Kusaka would often just use "...", and while Yamamoto was with GF in not liking the Special characterisation, he understood Kusaka's vision and would recommend dialogue. There are some interesting tweets too, like he wasn't shitposting about the swimmer being important in RS, he and the side characters represent a degree of normalcy and everyday life the duo shut themselves out of by acting out pre character-development.The account is a treasure trove of stuff obviously. The most interesting were the voice headcanons Yamamoto has. He says Ruby would have the same seiyuu throughout.
>>58187539>The account is a treasure trove of stuff obviously.Daily reminder to backup precious internet sources that could be deleted at any moment.
I've noticed a massive increase in Shuuharu art and comics lately, did anything specific happen?
>>58187749No idea, but that's cute!
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>>58187749Didn't they have their day recently?
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>>58186586It's always May o'clock somewhere!
>>58189130>>58189955Would you look at the time!
May and Brendan's house!
>>58189955What about half-past May?
>>58187539>Ruby accent headcanonsThe Goldenrod accent conundrum occupies the same space as Sapphire's mom in my head, as in Kusaka clearly didn't think through all the contradictions. So I find it hard to care that much. But if Ruby did have an accent like Bill's (or even worse if Norman had an accent and Ruby got the same one), then Ruby suppressing it/overcompensating by constantly using English catchphrases, only to later call Sapphire's natural accent "weird" would be another perfect example of projection. So much of the RS arc is just Ruby and Sapphire projecting their own baggage onto each other. The main irony obviously being Ruby saying Sapphire looks terrible, when he himself had a literal physical disfigurement he was covering up. But there's a dozen other examples of similar projections between them.>he understood Kusaka's visionGlad Yamamoto trusted Kusaka and left most of the writing to the writer, since canon Norman is based. Part of what made Pokespe stand out was the writer and artist being 2 different people so Kusaka and Mato/Yamamoto could just focus on what they're better at. Many Pokemangas made by solo mangakas would have nice artwork, but writing that at best seems copied from a story structure manual. Not even standard hero's journey shit, it'd be even more basic. Or the inverse where I like the story of the Pokemon DP Adventure manga by Shigekatsu Ihara but hate the artwork. Though other mangakas usually didn't get the luxury of having so many chapters to work on like Kusaka did.
>>58190900>he and the side characters represent a degree of normalcy and everyday life the duo shut themselves out of by acting out pre character-developmentYamamoto has a point there I guess. A main theme of RS arc is the individual's relationship to society, Ruby/Sapphire being the weird individuals and the cast they interact with being the rest of society. The main difference was Ruby treating nearly everyone like shit unless he can beg them for contest related validation, his mild persecution complex used as an excuse to ignore anyone asking for help (a bit like a Tumblr kid). Meanwhile Sapphire could be a rude brat too, but she was more like an unmedicated ADHD retard and didn't have Ruby's self pitying mindset, so she always helped strangers without asking for anything in return. By volume 18 they've both racked up enough karma for Sapphire to befriend all the gym leaders and basically get adopted by Winona to assist the PokeGovernment (embraced by society), while Ruby gets ignored and treated like a mentally unstable nuisance by Wallace and his hoes (rejected by society).After the RS arc, you mainly have Emerald as a counterweight to "confirm" that Ruby/Sapphire are insane freaks, even after character development and in context of their universe's society (where many other trainers are a bit quirky themselves). Either Kusaka/Yamamoto once even tweeted that Emerald had a tsukkomi relationship with R/S for that purpose. But as for the swimmer OC desu I thought he was creepy and annoying. If the story needed more non freaks to focus on, it could've followed Wally's subplot more desu.
>>58190908>Ruby would have the same seiyuu throughoutMany fans think Ruby would be voiced by a female seiyuu doing a young male voice, who would naturally be able to voice him as a younger high pitched kid, easier than a male seiyuu could. JP fan videos on Niconico also give Ruby female seiyuus though most male dex holders seem to be voiced by girls in fan projects anyway (Iberico/イベリ子's voice for Gold is my favorite, she's been voicing him for 15 years now). Though for an English dubbed Ruby, I've seen Todd Haberkorn brought up as a template.>>58187634>backup precious internet sourcesMany tweets are long gone anyway, Yamamoto has actually deleted many of his past doodles for unknown reasons. Navigating Twitter archives is also a nightmare so I'm too lazy to do it. Related, here's a deleted Yamamoto doodle of Ruby proposing to Sapphire, Yamamoto commenting that he himself wasn't a "real person" before he married his own wife. Which is actually a good summary of both Ruby's relationship to Sapphire and the Hoenn arcs as a whole.https://web.archive.org/web/20210921140620/https://twitter.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1119960040457117696>Good luck in education! My wife trained me to become a real person about 20 millimeters more than I did 5 years ago! Ruby should also be trained by Sapphire from now on! I hope it does!
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>>58190964>Many tweets are long gone anywayAnd many present one are still there. You don't know what you've lost until it's gone.
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Niggers coaly tho, wobson got the gemmy thoGot the reply, tho OP is a tranny, tho(Wob Gang!)Quote Marioipod like a script-y nigga, you a pedo niggaOn the vp with them Unova niggas, and them JohtoCHAD niggasYou run up and discord's raiding niggas, we ain't jannies niggaNo Aiden, you a loser nigga, up that rangeban niggaOn the four, Aiden posting coal, I'm raiding him some moreHe wanna be a woman -ACK!, rope caught him just before the floorMan it's sad, I caught a perma, the jannies know the scoreThey be spending 15 years on the tranime incel 'cordI'm on some raid Marioipod's shit, take a janny's bitchOn the board in the whip, posting 'fets in the whipI post up with a wob, I let that shit hitShout out, but I made Marioipod quitIn the chan my niggas be posting gems, my niggas wobsons bopCatch a ban naming jews, janny working round the clockPosting wobbuffets on the 'log, I grinded for my spotMario seething 'bout them fets, but my gems be worth a lotI don't fuck with no May coal, only gems, thoSpam my song in Mario's thread, let the janny clean it upI don't bump it that's a coal post, that's a dust postI'ma troll it then delete it, bump Wob Gang thoNiggers coaly tho wobson got the gemmy thoGot the reply, tho janny is a tranny, thoAll my wobs, thread's got fifty thoCall it coal, pew pew pew, you silly thoPost a 'fet, Aiden mad, replies a hunnidPage 40, grab a Wob and then I bump itQuote me, im quoting back, my folder, dump itI aint wanna coal this thread, but nigga fuck itI'm on some raid Marioipod's shit, take a janny's bitchOn the board in the whip, posting 'fets in the whipI post up with a wob, I let that shit hitShout out, but I made Marioipod quitI'm on some raid Marioipod's shit, take a janny's bitchOn the board in the whip, making 'fets in the whipI post up with a wob, I let that shit hitShout out, but I made the janny quit(Wob Gang!)
>>58191427May looks like she really needed that hug.
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>>58192772Yes!
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>>58190908>Either Kusaka/Yamamoto once even tweeted that Emerald had a tsukkomi relationship with R/S for that purpose.That was Yamamoto, Emerald was meant to be a standalone gag arc with the Hoenn trio until the editor insisted FRLG and E link back to the first 4 arcs (stone chapter wasn't until the volume release, and E ended its magazine run with VS Charizard I, extra pages to preceding chapters connecting to FRLG and everything VS Charizard II onwards was volume exclusive).Dia and Pearl's manzai gag was salvaged from the original plans where Emerald was the boke to the Frontier Brain's Tsukkomi, and the Tsukkomi to RS.>>58190964The authors think Ruby has the exact same voice as this:https://x.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1076367532456521729https://youtu.be/8TKmmhWbIIM?si=2Kx01cJHn0LIFsAh&t=405>Todd HaberkornA lot of fancasts would use his Death the Kid voice back then kek.Yamamoto says he and Kusaka also cite Bob Dylan's "The Times, They are a-changin'" as the image song for Ruby and Sapphire as characters.
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>>58187458Breed May so her breasts get even bigger.
>>58193523And then they had sex!
>>58192821>VS Charizard I>VS Charizard III'd just go with chapters 323/324. Pokespe chapter titles are fucking awful when they keep recycling the same Pokemon names, even before the localization retardation with Viz especially making up shitty pun titles out of nowhere. For me the final nail in the coffin was Bulbapedo changing every single chapter hyperlink text to the Viz titles, making the wiki nearly unusable for manga related stuff.>Dia and Pearl's manzai gagThe DP manzai was almost ruined by turning too serious, and made a lot of western fans hate Pearl. Though with how many of DP's jokes would never be able to be translated anyway it could just be something else that gets lost on international audiences. Meanwhile Emerald's comic routine with the Frontier Brains and Ruby/Sapphire seemed comparatively harmless because in the end Emerald isn't particularly close to any of them, they're all acquaintances at best so any slapstick or insults don't come off as too personal. Emerald interacting with groups of people, instead of people one on one, also made the manzai more impersonal and easier to take at face value.Among those characters in the Emerald arc I think Sapphire in particular was trying to be closer friends with Emerald, but he kept her at arm's length. Emerald actually had more in common with Ruby and they both kind of knew it, but between Ruby's poor social skills/not caring as much and Emerald's resentment nothing really happened.>Drew clone with an androgynous voice>Ruby's voice never breaking even by age 15I don't believe this, at least Haberkorn's DtK could sort of believably be the voice of an anime guy between ages 13-20. Not to mention Norman's started balding around his 30s-40s so Ruby better prepare himself for the reality of ageing.
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>>58193784Agreed on the Viz titles.>The DP manzai was almost ruined by turning too serious, and made a lot of western fans hate Pearl.I think it being slowly subverted with Diamond being the tsukkomi (in a far more serious context) made sense. However, it's just one of those moments that were made to look "iconic" when standalone and recapture RS's momentum but falls flat when you read it. I'm re-reading the gen 1-3 mangas rn while abroad, I'm on vol 16 now, we'll see if my thoughts on RS being one of the best arcs next to the gen 1 ones still is true for me (probably will)>Not to mention Norman's started balding around his 30s-40s so Ruby better prepare himself for the reality of ageing.That reminds me a massive theory back in the jb forums and Tumblr was that ORAS was going to build up to reveal Drake was Norman's estranged father just to explain Ruby trying reach out to Rayquaza just based off Drake's hairline being exactly like Ruby and Norman's
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>>58193523>later that night...
She wants to go on a trip?
>>58195497Fat tits and fat butt.
>>58193850>slowly subverted with Diamond being the tsukkomiDiamond becames to tsukkomi to Cyrus right? My memory's failing me but that was funny. Not that iconic but funny I guess. The only DP attempt at being serious that worked for me was the trio splitting up. DP might've been better if it just focused on being comedic and didn't meander as much, the RS arc seemed much more tightly structured in comparison.>vol 16Fun volume. Ruby and Sapphire's dynamic in the whole Dewford-Abandoned Ship part was underrated, it could've been explored more desu.>RS being one of the best arcs next to the gen 1 onesBased. I've also been procrastinating on rereading gens 1-3 because I enjoyed RGB/Y (RGB guys appearing in Y with new mentorship roles was kino, and Y being one of the few arcs with a proper ending helps a lot) while GSC was weird. Then RS comes afterwards to basically be the most popular arc but everyone knows that. I also wanted to reread everything because my next Sapphire related schizo theory after "Sapphire is religious and has racial in group preference" is that, in context of the RS arc's later tone shift compared to RGB/Y/GSC, (at the time) Sapphire represented old Pokespe and Ruby represented new Pokespe.
>>58195641Though I recently reread RS/E/ORAS specifically since I wanted to look at Sapphires, and a lot of my general opinions on RS ended up changing. I think most readers can tell the main duo are more complex than they seem but to me they just keep getting deeper. Sapphire's actually quite smart in her own way (emphasis on "in her own way" kek), modern society just isn't conditioned to value the same things she does. Meanwhile Ruby's mental illness was worse than I remembered if you interpret his crashouts as suicide attempts, or how much he relies on Sapphire for purpose and structure he can't find himself. His mental decline in volume 18 is quite obvious too, it's not just some fan headcanon that something's wrong with him.Then realizing the Epic of Gilgamesh parallel took me out completely, I went from thinking Ruby and Sapphire might be better off apart to believing their marriage/procreation/retirement at My Pyre is pivotal for their universe, which meant they have to suck it up and work things out. My views on Norman and Courtney also did a total 180. The Wallace/Winona and Ruby/Sapphire parallel also answers why Sapphire never challenges the League.>hairline theoryWhat the fuck lmao. But it would be both interesting and relevant to the story to learn about Norman's relationship to his own dad I guess.
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The result of her eating so damn much.
>>58195710Me on the inside
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>>58195641>Diamond becames to tsukkomi to Cyrus Yes, but with Pearl it's taken to the logical extreme with Pearl's emotions causing him to catastrophise and take it out on Diamond, with Dia being the "serious" one and shutting down all of Pearl's arguments.Again, I think they wanted to have their next RS with DP but failed to capitalise on the character interactions much. Dia and Pearl are glorified cheerleaders who have no notable achievements of their own and Platinum isn't likable at all. The worst part is that all of this is somewhat fixable.>Vol 16It was. I like that they were confident enough to keep up the momentum from the GSC climax instead of deliberately holding things back as they did with later dual version arcs. Especially since Last Battle 14 was bundled with volume 15 in Japan and Asia. The fact they returned to badge collecting for Sapphire also helps pace the story better: GS has Lake of Rage not even 2 volumes in, and it seems MATO's retirement, the hiatus and Crystal's release must have been macabre saving graces for that arc's already unfocused pacing. Kusaka probably understood that RS marked the beginning of a new gen so he knew he had a timescale. >Sapphire represented old Pokespe and Ruby represented new Pokespe. Yamamoto actually talks about this in his twitter regarding FRLG and E. When the decision to link the two was made by the editor, it was decided that the two arc's would have half of the dex holders: FRLG's half represented MATO, and E represented Yamamoto. Emerald's is also one massive tribute to MATO. The water Kyogre is not just based on Movie 6's Groudon but also the Spirit Lugia, the logic of countering with a greater energy, scaling the Tower mirrors Silph Co and even Emerald waking up akin to Yellow in chapter 90.
>>58196289>Platinum isn't likableI thought Platinum was funny, though I also tend to think of her as a unit with Dia and Pearl. When they were separated in the Platinum arc I lost all interest. All the previous dexholders could stand on their own, even if Ruby and Sapphire got divorced they're still interesting as individuals. I'm not sure if the DPPtrio could survive a divorce since I'm not sure if any of them have huge individual fans, people like them for the meme trio thing. Well actually maybe Dia has fans.>volume 15 in Japan and AsiaI have one of those with original volume 15 cover (with all the MCs in chronological order from Red to Ruby) which is easily one of my all time favorite vol covers. Yet another thing Viz took away from us, billions must die.>the hiatusQRD?>FRLG's half represented MATO, and E represented YamamotoInteresting, never saw it that way. Sauce? Either way I'm glad they always had respect for Mato in mind. Though while Yamamoto designed Crystal I think Mato designed Gold, which muddles the idea when both of them appear in E.But what I meant by Sapphire being old Pokespe and Ruby being new Pokespe, was actually contained to the RS arc at the time:Sapphire>moral objectivity (same as nearly all prior MCs)>old game mechanic (badge collecting is as old as gen 1)>local (story's set in Hoenn, she's from Hoenn, most MCs are from the region their story takes place in)>her "nature girl" gimmick isn't new and is technically just an extreme version of Yellow's>rootedness = stability (less mentally ill than/doesn't change as much as Ruby)
>>58196740Ruby>moral subjectivity/relativism (first MC to purposely be controversial AFAIK Yellow/Gold weren't controversial before 2010)>new game mechanic (contests were introduced in gen 3)>foreign (story's set in Hoenn but he's from Johto technically Silver's from Kanto, but this isn't explored anywhere as much)>his "fancy boy" gimmick left even the editorial board not wanting him to exist at first, he barely escaped abortion>novelty = instability (he is literally mentally ill and undergoes a lot of change)This could be a stretch but returning to the Emerald arc, later when Ruby and Sapphire meet all the previous MCs, it's Sapphire who's excited about being part of this larger Pokedex Holder group. She freaks Gold and Crystal out when she first meets them because she's so into their shared heritage. Her excitement could come from how she's not that different from the previous MCs at her core, being "old Pokespe". Meanwhile Ruby doesn't seem to care as much (he just reads out the posters in the Dex holder museum because his gf is illiterate and needs help). Which could either just be him acting aloof again, or because he actually just doesn't relate to the others as much, him being "new Pokespe".
>>58196746Not a manga reader here, why are Yellow/Gold controversial post-2010?
>>58195641>my next Sapphire related schizo theory after "Sapphire is religious and has racial in group preference"What's funny is that Sapphire's personality likely means she'd be super religious in nearly every context, be it animism or Christianity or something more obscure. As long as it involves serious prayer, meditation, and ritualism, she'd be all for it. She certainly wouldn't be the studious theologian type, but more like the old grandma who never forgets to pray her rosary to keep her nihilistic teenage grandkids and the entire world at large from falling completely into the abyss.
>>58197232Trannies.>1998-1999 (Japanese volumes)Yellow arc: Yellow is a manga exclusive OC. Yellow looks and dresses androgynously and is assumed to be a boy. Later in chapter 78 it's revealed Yellow's a girl.>2003 (Japanese volumes)GSC arc, chapter 180: Gold pats a girl's ass because he's an anime pervert, then rightfully gets the shit beaten out of him.>2003 (Japanese volumes)RS arc: Ruby and Sapphire are new characters explicitly created to subvert some gender roles/expectations. Emphasis on "some". They're both straight and neither are trannies.>2013 (the tipping point)In the west, tranny activists succeed in making trannyism no longer be officially defined as a mental illness (see the DSM-5). They proceed to make trannyism look cool and trendy to young people through subversive mass media campaigns, though they already had a head start on this years earlier.>early 2010s in general (English volumes)The manga's accessibility in North America was in years long limbo until around this time. Now VIZ Media starts publishing official English translations of the manga arcs after RGB/Y, so for many westerners this was their first opportunity to legally read the GSC arc onwards.But among the newly expanded western readerbase, some very loud kids decided that all the events mentioned above are now problematique and controversial. Having been brainwashed by recent tranny propaganda, they now want Yellow to be an official tranny/nonbinary character, for Gold to get extra cancelled (or something) and for Ruby/Sapphire to be official trannies and homosexuals at the same time. The fact their headcanons aren't real offends them greatly. These "people" have other shitty ideas too but those are the major ones.Even if they're a vocal minority, their screeching was bad enough to shit up the entire existing online anglophone manga fanbase after the 2010s and ruin it forever.
>>58197531I hate leftism so fucking much.
>>58197531Not them, but I thought it was because there was a rumor around the XY/ORAS era about Yellow being a "sealed up" character (whenever the Japanese use this phrase, it's corpospeak for "banned"). Yamamoto always avoids answering the question or straight up says "what are you talking about?">>58196740Here's the tweet about Yamamoto linking it to Mato and also comparing it to Ultraman eras. FRLG's ending and Emerald is also just that two parter stretched out.https://x.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1379507658768543748Gold being Yamamoto's makes sense, Silver made some cameos in Yellow and has a link to the gen 1 dexholders+TR. Plus iirc, Yamamoto drew him much differently than MATO. She never drew Gold's cap with a poke ball symbol at the back iirc for example.
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>>58198278Lucky Satoshi (and Takeshi, I guess).
