Why do people feel the need to list out a gorillion peepeepoopoo prerequisites to be part of a group? 600 BST on a regular Pokemon is 600 BST on a regular Pokemon.
Because the prerequisites inform an archetype, which in turn precludes anything that doesn't share the same prerequisites from being considered part of that archetype.
>>58187386Lapras is literally a pseudo legendary despite not having 600 BST. Same with Volcarona and Haxorus. Arcanine is called the Legendary Pokemon which makes it psuedo legendary. Simply having 600 BST and being a shitmon until the lategame should not be the basis for something being a pseudo legendary. This is pure autism by Gamefreak and by Masuda. G**dra should not exist period.
Disingenuous or genuinely retarded? Call it.
>>58187394holy gem
>>58187394>Simply having 600 BST and being a shitmon until the lategame should not be the basis for something being a pseudo legendary. This is pure autism by Gamefreak and by Masuda.The group's official term does not mention being legendary or pseudo. They are called "Powerhouse Pokemon" by virtue of them having higher BST than all others that are not one-time obtain Legendary Pokemon, or referred to by terms linked to them all having 600BST like 600 club, 600 family, all that. Simply put, this is Pokefan autism rather than official autism.
>>58187394>>58187375I'm sorry to tell you this but your personal patterns aren't relevant. Well, yours nor anyone else's. The west calls them pseudo-legendaries, the nips call them the 600-club, but none of these have ever been acknowledged by GF, they call them "late bloomers" instead, refering to how they need three evolutions and a very high level to become fucking beasts.Obviously they are trying to be consistent with the 600 BST thing yeah, but that isn't and has never been something FOR THEM. It doesn't matter how mythical or important a pokemon is or if it gets the same BST as Dragonite, Salamence or Hydreigon, they aren't late bloomers, cope and stop being a retard, please.
>>58187406The late bloomer one is the dumbest. This would make Bisharp and Noivern part of the club.
>>58187416>Noibat line only needs one evolution to reach its full potential>Pawniard line can reach its final evolution immediately after the first one>none of them have the BST that justifies a long wait into becoming a monster like Dragonite or TyranitarClearly not late bloomers
>>58187416>This would make Bisharp and Noivern part of the club.Yes, they are late bloomers, but not 600 club members.Landorus is a 600 club member, but not a late bloomer.Cresselia's 600 club membership was revoked recently.
What would be the prerequisites then? How does a pokemon becomes a "pseudo legendary"/"600 club"/"late bloomer"?What would be the "must have" conditions (like BST or 3 stage evo) and what would be the "optional" conditions (like having a pokedex number very close to actual legendaries)?
>>58187441It's not like GF has ever explained it besides the late bloomer name we only know they all have three stages that require a considerable level to reach and gain 600 BST in the last oneAfter all I don't think we have any pokemon with three stages that reaches 600 BST except the "pseudos", Dratini, Larvitar, Bagon, Beldum, Gabite, Deino, Goomy, Jangmo-o, Dreepy and Frigibax
>>58187406You would be right, but then you suddenly create an arbitrary “it needs 3 rules” requisite, thus doing exactly what you are saying others are doing
>>58187457*3 stages
>>58187457>just because it's a late bloomer doesn't mean it needs to bloom late, one evo is enoughwhat did he mean by this
>>58187394>This is pure autism by GamefreakThis is pure autism by you
>>58187462>my arbitrary condition is not arbitrary because I see logic behind ityes, just like everyone making up arbitrary shit believe there's a reasonable explanation behind it. The only requirements we can attest are the ones exclusive to the Pokémon GF acknowledges as part of the group:>all the pokémon they acknowledged had 600 BST, no pokémon with different BST was considered part of it>every non-legendary pokémon with 600 BST were considered part of it, yet not a single legendary/mythical pokémon was. despite having said BSTBased on that, the only official requisites we can attest are: >having 600 BST>not being legendary/mythical3-stage evolution is not something we can verify yet because up to that point every Pokémon that fit the 2 aforementioned conditions also had 3 stages, so there is no "control group". Only now that Archaludon exists we'll be able to know if that's also a requirement, but only once GF do something official again with this group. Up to that point, it's just your autismo
>>58187499And now you are making up rules yourself, like the legendary distinction. Instead you could just say it's about evolution, what's the difference here? Oh wait I know, that evolution actually makes late bloomers bloom late while legendaries (other than Meltan and Cosmog) don't evolve, great sampleGF traits for the group so far are that it takes three evolutions for them to reach 600 BST, cope
>>58187406They are now called Powerhouse Pokemon
>>58187406>>58187510late bloomer is the name of a merch line based on this group of pokémon, anon. Like others said, posterior lines were made calling them powerhouse instead. Those are the names of the products, not the name of this group.But more importantly the powerhouse line was made after SV DLC and it doesn't include Archaludon
>>58187606Archaludonbros...
If literally. Fucking. ANYBODY. Had called them "Epic Pokemon" all of this confusion and naming bullshit wouldve been avoided.
>>58188108And why the fuck would anyone such a shitty name, retard?
>>58187375Archudludon, you will never be a pseudo
>>58188108I prefer the confusion over that shitty dated meme word
>>58188108>Epic>LegendarySo like loot box categories? Gross.
>>58188108Any confussion would have been avoided if they called them "super duper pals" too, and it's also a shitty name, what the fuck is your point?
>Dragonite - DRAGON flying>Tyranitar - ROCK dark>Salamence - dragon FLYING>Metagross - steel PSYCHIC>Garchomp - dragon GROUND>Hydreigon - dragon DARK>Goodra - dragon (and STEEL)>Kommo-o - dragon FIGHTING>Dragapult - dragon GHOST>Baxcalibur - dragon ICEWhat do you want the greek powerhouse to be like? Give it at least one new type
>>58188521Bug
>>58187375>Why do people give the criteria for the thing to see if it qualifies to be called said thingYou tell me
>>58187375A 600 BST regular pokemon is a 600 BST regular pokemon, but it isn’t a Powerhouse Pokemon (or pseudo-legendary in fan terminology). Archaludon isn’t a 3-stager in the slow exp group with an egg cycle of 40, which >>58187606 all fit the criteria of.
>>58188521If it’s not Bug or Fairy then I don’t care
>>58188652>>58188524Say hello to your new Fairy-Bug pseudo (evolves at level 66)
>>58187606It was a long while before a I realized haxorus is not a part of this lineup
>>58188744>BST of 540it's a shitmon
>>58188108I could see them using "epic" for a future gimmick ngl
>>58188744Same, it always made sense to me, if Hoenn could add two pseudos because they introduced doubles BW with its double dual editions and the whole twin dragons stuff could have two as well>>58188750Not everyone is a competitivefag, specially at young age>both are three staged lines>both look strong>both are relatively late in the dex>both are used by the champion (Haxorus is even the ace)>both are draconid which so far only Metagross defies even 14 years later>the region has a theme of dual dragonsI just saw Haxorus and Hydreigon and say "oh cool they made two pseudos again, nice", I didn't even knew about bst stuff
>>58188521Dragonite should be Dragon/NormalTyranitar should be Dragon/RockMetagross shouldn't be a pseudo, its BST should be 550 or something.This way each generation would have one and one only pseudo and they would all be Dragon without repeating type combos
>>58188816>both look strongdid u think Aggron was a pseud too
>>58188873Aggron is a very early pokemon in Hoenn's dex and doesn't look that strong, it's 072 of 200. Haxorus is 118 of 150 (185 of 200 in B2W2)
