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In terms of thoughtfulness there is no region better designed than sinnoh
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>>58187641
true
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>>58187641
why does GameFreak hate it so much? shit remakes, shit tech demo, no fan service for the pokemon, no return in the anime or pokespe, etc.
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the reason i like sinnoh so much is they had a base concept (base the entire region around a giant central mountain range and then build from that) and everything in this region is in service of this
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where fire types
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>>58187649
Mt. Coronet was too confusing for Japanese kids and the company overall is embarrassed by the region and its lore because of the Typhlosion leak. Sinnoh, after all, introduced the idea of humans marrying Pokemon.
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>>58187641
Awful region all around
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>>58187714
>the company overall is embarrassed by the region
No. Sinnoh is the second most popular region after Kanto
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>>58187641
i remember when regions were loosely inspired by real life locations and had an identity of their own nowadays they heavily rely on hard pandering from real life places and gimmicks to compensate for the lack of creativity, entertaining story and good pokemon designs, it all went downhill when gen 6 was announced
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>>58187736
>tried to replace it with shitsui
holy fucking kek
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>>58187641
What do they eat?
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>>58187641
Home.
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>>58187742
Glaceon rump
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>>58187740
Source?
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>>58187641
I love how the cold Pokémon region only has 2 ice type in it regional dex
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>>58187641
So gen 4 is when they started ripping off Chrono Trigger, not gen 5. Notes updated!
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i also think hoenn and alola are well designed. i think unova and paldea are the worst because they don't really have anything organic about how things would settle naturally
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>>58187785
>glaceon
>glalie
>froslass
>weavile
>mamoswine
>abomasnow
are you retarded
>b-but
even bdspiss has everything except glaceon
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>>58187850
Which game was it again, where you navigated a sandy desert to get to a snow town? Actually, didn't that happen twice in mainline?
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>>58187641
Ugh... so goated... so soulful...
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>>58187853
>over half of the mons he posted aren’t in the regional dex
thanks for proving my point anon
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>>58187649
It filtered millions. Masuda said they got a whole bunch of angry jap moms complaining that little Takashi couldn't figure out where to go. The backlash was so bad, it made Masuda turn Unova into a hexagon and heavily railroad their future games ever since.
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>>58187876
but they are, thanks for admitting you’re retarded.
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>>58187857
If you mean Hoenn, that's ash, not snow
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>>58187857
It might be Unova during the winter since gen 5 has the four seasons that change every month. Both it and Hoenn have mid game deserts.
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>>58188038
>>58188050
its paldea iirc. the badlands area with orthworm leads to the mountain
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>>58187641
It was the most thoughtlessly designed region of the initial four gens. Most dependent on backtracking, but unlike Hoenn didn’t give you any new content to explore while backtracking, so it’s just flyspam: the region. Worst offender was in Platinum, where the dropped you off near the 8th gym after fighting Cyrus but expected you to go all the way back to Sandgem just to get 3 lines of dialogue from the professor, before going back to where you already were. There’s other HM roadblocks in the region but most don’t amount to anything, because they also have NPCs blocking them until you’ve passed specific story checks, making them ultimately pointless.
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>>58188092
i'm not talking gameplay wise, i'm talking about how it organically feels like a real place and how every location is placed thoughtfully to how the geography would create the culture
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>>58187641
Indeed
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>>58187649
Ton of Sinnoh mons get love
Lucario
Piplup
Garchomp
Bunneary
Even Torterra
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>>58187775
>replaced starters
>replaced map
>replaced towns
>replaced legends
>replaced battle frontier with a transgender genie
>replaced gyms with noble fights against kalos and unova pokemon
>instead of riding on the native mons they replaced weavile with sneasler; staraptor with braviary; gastrodon with basculegion etc
>cynthia is now a ftm
grim
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>>58187877
The railroading was already present, it just wasn’t immediately visible as such. See >>58188092

An example would be the boulder in the north section of Mt. Coronet that blocks off Route 216. It’s set up as if a player would want to come back with strength and push it to see what’s beyond it, but in the end it turns out to be a completely superfluous roadblock as a pair of Galactic Grunts are blocking off the path behind it until you’ve finished up the story checkmarks to progress.

This is also a reason why people hate HM spam; it was overused in Sinnoh to a laughable degree, in areas where Gamefreak had decided to arbitrarily storygate anyway with “dancing for no reason” tied NPCs. At least Unova was more honest.
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>>58188109
>staraptor with braviary; gastrodon with basculegion
Staraptor and Gastrodon are in the game though?
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>>58187835
Meds
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>>58188370
It's well known fact that there are lots of CT and LttP nods in Unova anon.
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>>58187641
the physical region is great but holy moly the mon distribution is terrible
D/P dex is one of the worst ever
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>>58188092
emerald makes you go from mt pyre to mt chimney, then to slateport. then to lilycove which was right next to mt pyre the whole time.
and then later you have to go to sky pillar and back.
or how to get to lavaridge without flying you need to take a fucking cable car up mt chimney and then immediately go back down because of one stupid ledge.
or how the early game is extremely segmented because the second fucking gym is an island separated from everything else.
or that one series of sea routes with the currents that you need fly to retry because going on foot means doing a loop around the entire eastern half of hoenn.
real thoughtful region design there.
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>>58187641
Yeah they really thought of every possible way to ruin the player's experience
>lmao 8HM



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