>Friend ID Survey: https://forms.gle/AZyQQ2SfGeCKjXNh9>Friend ID Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit?usp=sharing>Tournament results/decklists: https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET>Deck Builder: https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builder>Datamines, etc.: https://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en>Luck calculator: https://porygonthree.github.io/ptcgp-luck-calculator/>Secluded Springs card list: https://www.pokemon-zone.com/sets/a4a//vp/ battle passwords to battle with other Anons (consider writing a post to recruit players)>/vp/‘s own meta (no random effects, no ex): vpnx>meta decks or high level play: vpmeta>/vp/ anything: vpPrevious: >>58182598
this dumb deck to me to UB1, haven't been lucky with pulls so had to settle for deliberd for the draw support, dual energy since I only have 1 mantyke, and GA Poli since I have only 1 copy of Poli-ex. Would add Suicune and another Mantyke maybe, but surprisingly GA Poli hits hard enough with Politoed support, hits the same 140 benchmark if you factor in counterattack damage.
>>58187759*tookfuck
Looking for the infamous Oricorio 9080539675730090
Why the fuck when a trainer FA finally appears on my WP list it is always a MALE?!
Someone has an extra one star Totodile? I have an extra one star cyndaquil to offer but tell me if you want something else.
Finally
Got this too
How can I improve this? I play against this deck a lot and I tried to include all the cards that screw me up when I play against it but the deck list feels so crammed and scatteredI didn't even have room for elemental switch...
>>58187958If I could restart my account in Japanese just for the kino, I would.The game is simple enough you don't have to read anyways
I thought pulling more than 2 cards above 1 diamond rarity was only possible in god packs and the 6x baby packs
>>58187998Really? I had no idea
>>58187957Building a deck around the idea of "i lost to that card so it must be good, let me put it in my deck" is a shitty way to build a deck. I guarantee the decks you lost to were not playing all of these cards.
>>58188014None of this helps me build a deck at all
>>58187957>silvally useryou should try killing yourself I'd say
>>58187788If you don't have anything on my wishlist then any card is fine
>>58188029That deck obviously has to have elemental switch anon. You have to identify what the core strategy of the deck is, here it's rallying energy onto silvally to hit for 100 as fast as possible so put in the cards you NEED for that and then see how much room is left.
Any interesting fighting type brews out there?
If they let the new Poliwag not just summon the other Poliwag, but also evolve any that were already in play, it might actually be good.
I'm so fucking mad that Misty is back. Can't they do SOME nerf? Max of 3 energy added. Misty can only be used on the active pokemon? Something?
jet fuel brew
>>58188068everyone is trying nudonphan w/ memory light but not sure if successful. I'm still running a golem/hitmontop w/ tyrogue to bully anyone left still using zubat
>>58188112nuphanphy*
>new trainer>upon use, the opponent's next turn is skipped. The opponent gains another point however. Do you like it?
Is he cooking
>>58188152This is just Bombazar, Dragon of Destiny, which was so bad it killed an entire card game (in the west).
>>58188112I dont understand why ppl are doing the the flail meme with ex donphan and not the single point knockout one that has an ability that let's him take more dmg... What about nu dugtrio? 1eng 100dmg there's gotta be something there right?
>22 packs in>last three consecutive packs had Raikou ex, Suicune ex and another Suicune exAt this rate I can go back and pull Ho-oh sooner than I thought
I saw someone using Arceus + TTar, wonder if Arceus + Abomasnow would work, very early online 80 damage mon.....meh probably sucks..
>>58188159looks fun
>>58188159I dont know why he used baby articuno instead of articuno ex
>>5818823680 is still a decent number for 2 energy but TR was several sets ago and we've gotten a lot more things that can do that and more for less setup
>>58188236TL Snover with Memory Light could be another option. It attacks with 1 water and 1 colorless for 30 mixed with Abomasnow ability might have a use.
>>58188248Maybe going for something more robust since it can't get cyrus'd into a 2pt
Facing off against the exact same decks over and over is extremely boring. I wouldn't doubt it if that was the thing killing the game either. They should seriously add some better cards that punish the same shit we see. Or something. The normal tcg doesn't struggle as much with this as pocket doesI truly believe that that is killing the player base in the end
Suicune/Greninja is good but I don't know why it's every second match I play like it's SSS tier or something.
>>58188474jumpluff's gameplan to constantly retreat using 1-retreat cost meatshields like shuckle and pyukumuku so jumpluff can poke for 70 and switch them back in I'm guessing?
>>58188460The game is broken but the players need to get their shit together too, you go into unranked and you have most people playing like their life depends on it, even level 50s who don't even have a measly 15 exp at steak.
Milktank Rampardos? Could it be a good brew?
>>58188484Yeah, ideally you have rocky helmet and poison barb Shuckles out at the same time.
>>58188159Yes, yes he is.Went against solgaleo and he got the solgaleo right away too so he didn’t brick either. However, I just kept rolling heads on articuno and it was really close so I don’t know how good this is. But it’s unique and fun so I like it
>>58188516this seems like it'd keel over the moment it has to play the grind game
>>58188159>>58188516Slowking is really good, but what's the point of Articuno? Can't you use something else? Might as well add Will but you'll lose a tool for a trainer so it's kind of tricky.
>>58188460The main problem is that when you only have 20 cards(realistically, 14 after Oak, Ball, Cyrus/Sabrina, and Red Card/Mars), there isn't a whole lot of strategy you can create and the cards that can stand well on their own are the ones that get used constantly. Nothing short of adding cards specifically meant to prevent something like Darktina or Sylveon from being played is going to stop people from playing them.
>>58188484jumpluff is unironically one of the best cards in the set and very flexible. lil 5 game win streak going with this new brew
>>58188530the point is it's a 1 ko point pokemon with decent bulk/attack. >couldn't you use something else? sure anything else u feel fits that description
>>58188530What else would you use instead?
>>58188591origin palkia probably
>>58188575New diglett/dugtrio cards are so ugly
remember druddigon?
>>581886371eng for 100dmg tho
Been having fun with this
>>58188651he's been replaced by zangoose if the archetype is being played at all
Is it possible to commit no mistakes and still lose?
>>58188666THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG(Even the file size was too strong and I had to crop it)
>>58188687Yes. Cards like Mars and Red Card exist.
>>58188103>>58188103We need this guy so you can really improve this brew.
>>58188692ok now i lost 4 matches in a row to starting with 0 dratini, oak, or pokeball and getting red card'd out of a win con while opponent gets 4 misty flips ok
Nothing makes me happier in this game than watching someone play Lillie/Erica/Pokemon Center Lady/Whitney/Irida + potion + cape/leaf cape only to have their pokemon die in one hit anyways the following turn.
>>58188687>Load up game>Opponent starts with Suicune and a full bench>You only start wit h1 basic>Rolls Misty and gets 2 heads before you can startt your turn>Oneshots your basicWhat mistake did you make?
>>58188801The mistake of playing this piece of shit.
>>58188591>>58188587I tried pyukumuku and regular Suicune and bricked hard. Yeah, I think Articuno is the best option. This is a promising brew.
>wanna play jumpluff>don't have it>have enough hourglasses for some 10 pulls>but wanna save for potentially super broken megasugh
>>58188159>Try this>Start with Articuno>Every>Single>Time
Looking for a Tyrogue and a Donphan EX, anyone needs something?
>>58188159after playing through it a bunch this deck seriously needs sabrina or a cyrusI also replaced articuno with a pyukyumyukyu and a cryogonal
>>58188888Yea, the Articunos are definitely the weakest link in it. Insta-loss if you start with one in most cases, and the 60 damage doesn't really do much.
Notice how every relevant deck has either energy ramp, draw power, or both?
>>58188922They definitely sped up the game to an irredeemable degree. Anything above 3 energy is completely fucked, and even 3 is pushing it. Giratina generates its own so obviously its exempt from this, but i wonder if that card is close to getting pushed out.
>>58188935Attacks are becoming stronger, with fewer downsides and lower energy requirements. It's only a matter of time before wasting a potential attacking turn to give Giratina energy can cost a game.
>>58188687Only 10% of your winrate is due to your skill, such as not making mistakes.20% is deck matchup - some decks are just better against some other decks.70% of your win rate is pure luck - even the worst deck can beat the best deck if the worst deck gets godly draws and the best deck bricks bad enough.
>Failed a FA Sylveon WPSome things really never change...
>>58188935>>58188939If only these retards figured out they could just fucking nerf the problematic cards...
>>58188922>every card game ever Wow anon so insightful
>>58188966They're not going to nerf cards after people have pulled for them, that would literally kill the game
>>58188982>create the dumbest broken meta ever>refuse to nerf it because people's feefees might be hurt>compensate by adding shit that gets more and more brokenYeah that's definitely healthy for the game indeed.
>>58188935They kinda fixed going first, but in the worst way.
>>58188966They treat TCGP like a real card game in every way but having true randomness. They're not ever going to change card text.
When grass gets its baby ramper it will dominate you chuds
>>58188989it's very easy to counter the op cardsin the normal tcg there is a million ways to negate abilities but still nothing in tcgp ability negation would fix most problems
>>58188992Going first should just let you put energy but not attack. You won the fucking coinflip, you shouldn't be punished for it.
>>58189002Budew ex will save the game.
>>58189002budew will be igglybuff clone that poisons
I'd love to see one of you dumbasses design a card game. >nothing but shit cards because cards that "break the rules" are unfair Most boring shit ever
>>58189020my favorite pokemon will be good and your favorite pokemon will be pack filler
>>58189007That's how it is in the real TCG, but they have it completely backwards in Pocket, where you can attack but not place energy(except through card effects). It's fucking ridiculous that you can potentially win the game before your opponent has taken a single action.
I make decks that basically only lose to an evolution being at the very bottom of the deck so I guess it's a good deck or a potentially good deck that needs 1 coms
>>58189020>attack with 1 energy = low damage>attack with 2 energies = medium damage>attack with 3 energies = good damage>attack with 4 energies = huge damageWoo, that was hard, I'll be waiting for my paycheck now.
>>58189020This is the general where people are convinced that the game is actively sabotaging (you), even though the game is 1v1 with one winner and one loser per match (excepting the rare draws)
>>58189062When I play first 18 times in a row (I wish I was making that up, this was so absurd), yes, I will say the game tries to sabotage me.
>>58188460This is why I stay in great ball and use joke decks every time I'm about to go too close to the edge
>>58188712kek
>>58188953>>58189081SO MUCH COPE
>>58189100great ball is the exact hell I was talking aboutI see more types of decks in ultra ball. Great Ball 4 was just sylveon espeon, darktina, and suicune greninja
>>58189151Because people totally didn't play Gholdengo w/ Dialga and Clodsire back when they were released of course.
>>58189159Great 4 is sweat/paypig sauna. Great ball 1 and 2 are where is it in my experience at least
now that lanturn got an ex i dont have much to really wait for....i guess swampert and claydol / breloom.....
>>58189171They were played for like a day and then dropped by everyone
I think the health of this game will be determined by the identity the types have moving forward. They’re already pushing it with the babies, fire water electric all do the same shit they just ramp fast and kill you. Right now the BAD types just have nothing, fighting dark steel etc. Steels gimmick of damage reduction was never going to work in a game with so much indirect damage. Then you have pre made decks like ultra beasts that dont really help their own type.
>>58189212fighting used to be good basics with low energy cost but it doesn’t matter because other types have low energy broken options or ramp.
>>58189004>it's very easy to counter the op cards >in the normal tcg tSilver bullet cards don't count
>>58189227every card has some sort of counter in the tcgthere isn't much counterplay here
they should let you spend more hourglasses to continue picking cards on the same WP
>>58189212I feel the card game design being based on typing due to energy costs goes against the spirit of team building from the main games, but this is just how they made it since the 90's
I FUCKING HATE EVERYTHING! FUCK THIS WORLD!!!!
I'm tired of pulling dudes
Jumpluff in theory should be a great card but it isn’t. It feels like stage 2 pokemon are no longer usable unless you have draw power. Shit is just that fast now
>>58189507You're not off the hook yetTime to pick that 2* Poliwrath
>>58189519It is unironically one of the best cards in the set you just dont know how to brew budd, sry :(
>>58189507Wow
what do you even play if you didnt draw Suicune.
>>58189525I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT TOAD FAGGOT! I WANT WAIFUCARDS!
>>58189537slowking pyukumuku and cryogonal wall suicune
>>58189548Ok post brew
>>58189512Team rocket sorta counts for waifucards, the green haired grunt is cute.
>>58189564That's why I put them on both sides, been pulling for Cynthia/Mars but with my luck I'll probably end up with Cyrus
>>58189559it’s pretty much the same as the bald youtuber with minor changes
>>58189595If only there was a way to retrieve tools from discard
>>58189537I have mostly been playing Jumpluff and some dugtrio experiments now. Im current sitting at great ball 3 and I dont even play against suicune that often idk what people are talking about that it's every other game.Slowking is also good apparently.
>>58189626Slowking is based meme deck
>>58189507Lmao pedo get fucked
milk and morty brew
>>58189715What does morty do for this deck... or any deck really?
The things holding back sylveon and greninja were the fact that they didnt have a perfect partner that was the same type. Now suicune and espeon came along, this shit is so fucking gay.
>>58189747Something something giratina greninja
Only 8 matches to get my GB3 badge this month
>>58189745I was actually just about to ask for a morty brew. Glad anon heard my callI want to use morty>b-b-but why?I like him
It sucks knowing that Jolteon EX will be better than Vaporeon EX because Water is too good and it needs to be punished.
>>58189507I cant even get a 2nd copy of suicune after 150 packs and 2 failed wp
>>58189745stalling for miltank rolls or gengar
>>58189715took out 1 ball and 1 whitney for barb and red card and it's actually pretty nasty for a memetank brew. they never see the 2e gengar coming
>>58189715this shit fucking sucks fuck you
i hate players who dont have any non ex attackers but refuse to forfeit against oricorio
This isn’t going to work is it
>>58190104You need another jasmine
>>58189537Rampvally. I haven't changed this deck since Silvally dropped and it has gottennme into MB every time, including this meta. Darktina is the only deck thought of as eternal, but I beg to differ.
>>58190130Post brew I've been looking for that list
>>58190133Hardly a brew, still>2 type: null>2 silvally>2 skull fossil>1 craniados>2 rampardos>2 rare candy>2 gladion>1 mars>1 sabrina>1 iono>1 red>1 pokeball>2 prof. researchYou can make an argument for Cyrus over Sabrina or for Giovanni over Red. Other than standard usage, I like Sabrina for instances I go first. She can sometimes buy me a turn by disrupting my opponent's energy build. Giovanni was only really important in the mirror match and I play fewer and fewer of those with each new meta. With ex cards being rampant, I've found Red more helpful. Iono hopefully solves more bricks than she creates and some sort of hand control is mandatory with how much draw power is in the game.
>>58189975just harpooned a darktina and esp/sylveon. sorry it's too high dank for u
>>58190117Maybe, im 4-2 right now. They need to fucking stop with these damage protection abilities that only work on switch.
>>58190176Yeah nvm this is unplayable, mantyke rampa into suicune they draw 50 cards GG what a retarded game. No flexible room for any cards anymore.
Trying to make a deck for this good boi. Obvious synergy with Lyra and Emolga but not sure about the rest of the deck. Raioku EX is good of course but I'd rather go no EX so I'm not as weak to Cyrus. Any ideas? >inb4 he's shit just play suicune df;aslvna;vabc"ZKnThis one's for the brewers if you don't brew don't respond.
>>58190242Well you don't want to risk him tanking a hit so this emolga seems like the obvious partnerProblem is at that like you've taken up 6 slots in the deck and boltund can't hit harder than 70. But then you do have 2 attackers for a single energy so... That's not bad. Maybe pair with Raikou or the 150 Pikachu?
>>58190242Sorry I just read the rest of your postNon-ex in electric kinda difficult right now but the obvious answer is oricorio, solid addition to any deck right now.Fwiw baby Zapdos also synergizes with the doggo
>>58190307Yeah baby Zapdos is what I arrived at too. Boltund hitting for 70 is not a problem, 70 for 1eng is good, survivability is the problem.
>>58190326> 70 for 1eng is good, survivability is the problemYeah agreed.
So even though you can use the lantern to have your Venoshocker apply poison on their own, it's still shit because you would still be spending a turn doing almost nothing. Maybe you can use them with energy discard or evolutions that don't have a good energy curve, but those Pokemon are probably still bad enough to not be worth using. Most non-final evolution moves are non-scaling and therefore bad.
>>58190412Venoshock mons do the same damage by just attacking twice.
I'm still a bit disappointed Pocket wasn't some sort of update to the main app, the idea of collecting more cards with your friends, exclusive artworkAll seemed to be the kinds of things the regular app needed, ya know, a swift kick in the ass to involve more people and make interactions meaningful
Greninja should just be banned, fuck this faggot frog.
>>58190460>fuck this faggot frog.Careful what you say around here...
Who is gonna be the first guy to run Stoutland + Crawdaunt?
>>58190448I actually agree with this. I wish they had just overhauled the main app with better animations and stuff The real card game is so much more satisfying and interesting but from a technical perspective it's easy to see that the pocket app has some better things
>>58190566Tried it , saw it on luckycad.Stoutland is good, crawdaunt is.... Less good. It takes some luck because you got a get out ahead of your opponent....Which means it has the same issues as every other deck
Cooking
>>58190587stoutland porygon-z team rawkit
>>58190587yeah it needs like barely more damage against some decksJust lost to a stoke zard that skipped using stoke for one turn, like it sat there with 1 energy and i still just didnt get the right cards and lostidk how to fit a red in
Which Pokemon would you say are the biggest benefactors from this card existing?
>>58188874I can do Tyrogue for Pichu and Donphan EX for SR Pikachu.8248414562178187
>>58190635DonphanAlolan ExeggcutorMelmetalThat's about it
>>58189062>>58189133retard dena shill is back
>>58190635*beneficiaries, they're the ones receiving the benefitBenefactor is the person giving something
>>58190659Thanks anon
>>58190635https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUavOM9rfqAmost are impractical, but aside from the obvious ones like donphan, melmetal and torterra there's also SR tyranitar and abomasnow whose arceus link effects also affect their lower energy cost attacks from basic stage
>>58190635This card fucks me up because of where it adds the extra attack and I'm so used to button mashing my way through this game
>>58190665No problem, you're welcome
Damn, just had a match where I won against a Milktank vs my Slowking. But when dropping 2 cards into the UI for Slowking's attack, I overlapped the cards and returned one to my hand before tapping "ok"So I ended up just doing 50 damage instead of 100 to finish it off. Now I know you can bring a selected card back in your hand by overlapping a card on it.
>>58190750Based slowking enjoyerThis was an interesting match for me against a Dragonite ex deck.I had Dragonite down to 10 HP, opponent used leaf to retreat and then sent out a fossil, then discarded the fossil to get around Dragonite's "you may attack next turn" restriction. However since he was at 10 HP, I had equipped a rocky helmet and killed him on his attack.Ironically the game still counted this as a tie despite me having three points at the end and him only having two. Still a riveting game and I learned a lot.Slowking is fun. I don't know if I would say that it's good because it seems to have problems with consistency, but if you can evolve on curve it's pretty strong. If you struggle to find slowking the deck is rough
>>58190780The most rough part for me right now is only having one merchant. I can see how having 2 makes thsi eck much better since you pretty much draw at least 2 cards every time.
>>58190854Yeah I personally think that two merchants is a must. I've seen some other builds for go merchant in favor of ambipom(Eevee Grove) but I'm not a fan of the idea of building up another evolution. Curious about your Brew, what are your supporting pieces? This is what I've been running and I'm debating another Suicune just for the draw, but I would rather the focus remain on Slowking. I'm considering Sylveon for more draw power too but again I'm not sure
I just started a few days ago, got to pokeball rank with the tutorial deck, and i'm letting the game auto clear all of the little checkmark solo fights for hourglasses.Is the idea essentially to hoard hourglasses for events/releases you want to focus on, and just wait for weeks to slowly amass cards that will allow you to branch away from the starter deck?I don't see any other paths of resources or content aside from 15xp rando battles.I haven't spent any of my resources yet, and I have not put my credit card information for the 2 week premium trial, that as far as I can tell, simply gives me 1 pack a day?
>>58190880There are also premium missions which give premium tickets for items in the premium shopHoarding hourglasses or not is personal preferenceI'm very typical and hoard for opening packs when new packs come out, but I've also saved HGs for chase cards
>>58190880If you're actually interested in battling as a new player I'd just go see what decks are the best decks and start pulling packs from the expansion that has the most of those cards, then trade for the ones you're missing. 1 and 2 diamond trades are basically free and just consumes trade stamina, which recharges naturally. 3 and above require dust but you get it passively as you open packs.The game as it stands doesn't have a lot of variety in content btw. There's a few events here and there but they're all basically the same:- Promo card drop event. You get 1 promo pack per battle against NPCs.- X-type Pokémon outbreak. You get to wonder pick from some common cards for free, and the occasional rare WP for 2 energy.- Sneak Peek. You get a chance of double picking at WPs.- Promo card WP + decorations. Two Promo cards pop-up occasionally in WPs and a shop opens up with Promo sleeves/coins/mats, etc.I think that's pretty much it? Of course, new expansions always bring new NPC battles for exp and free hourglasses, you should have a huge backlog of these for a ton of resources.
>>58191024NPC battles? Do you mean the list of decks? Or am I missing something.
>>58191058The solo battles.Go to Battle > Solo Battles > select difficulty > click Expansion to see the full listSince you're just starting out, don't worry about clearing the extra objectives, just focus on winning at least 1 time each to get the exp and hourglasses
>Fire water electric 3 doge>PsychicSylveoneverything is so fast nowif you cant setup in 2nd turn, you lose
>>58189512
is the slowking deck good or is it a meme? got my second slowking and want to give it a try
>>58191371Seems like it would be rather inconsistent. Doing 100 damage for 1 energy is strong, but you need to evolve and have 2 Tools in hand.
>>581913812 tools in hand is the easiest part if you have your deck stuffed with them. Admittedly the hardest part is getting Slowking, but that Merchant card helps a lot since it's like having 4 Oaks in your deck.
this game is bleak, they solved the going first issue in the funniest way possible. Im slamming people for 100 damage on turn 3. Its getting so fast but the issue is defense and stall can’t keep up. Almost all defensive decks got pushed out the meta
thank god most people don't have their suicune deck ready yet
>>58191482suicune is actually pretty goddamn awful against espeon. The card is nuts but healing is underrated, if you leave your bench empty or small suicune is only hitting you for 60-40 sometimes and you destroy it in the 1v1.
idk if it will change but the only new deck im seeing is suicune shit, everything else is from a previous format. Im kinda disappointed, why were they scared of making entei and raikou just as good? Jumpluff and Poliwrath completely fell flat as well.
just did 870 damage with a leafeon meme deck
>>58191520Suicune depends on your opponent keeping their bench full. Even if that means it's still usually doing at least 60 damage, there are ways to play around it. The main things is it gets all the existing Water support, which there is plenty of.Raikou is just shitty. Electric support isn't that good, plus pinging the bench doesn't do a whole lot for most Electric types.Entei is pretty balanced since it has the option for late game, but I doubt you would really get to get 4 energies on it very often at all. And there's very little Fire support.Problem is the current meta is just way too fast for the power level that they were probably intending Pocket to have. Poliwrath doing less damage, but costing 1 less colorless could probably make it competitive, since you could run Fighting energy only, plus Mantyke and/or Misty.
>>58191371it’s a weaker silvally but if you wanted something new you should try it
>>58191555>Entei is pretty balanced since it has the option for late game,Sadly being “balanced” is the kiss of death in this game >And there's very little Fire supportThat might be the key here, just give other types better support so they have a chance against water, (though no Misty clones, fuck that noise). Also, add more general defensive supporters/items/ways to reduce damage/ ways to slow opponent energy gains/etc I’m going to give pocket the benefit or ten doubt and assume they will add those soon.
I need ho-oh cause I want to play celebi ex.Can trade these.9206500342994782
Ty super mario
https://youtu.be/CUy0fIK7f5A?si=BAANxGTCiT0UEQsrThe French dub is so much better, it's unreal.
>>58191652Hans...
>>58191766Intimidated by yaoi hands?
haven't looked at any decks yet, just been playing my brew in picrel. lost my 7 game win streak and I hate this game again
>>58191795It's ok anon, megas will power creep everything next update anyways
Bring it.
So what can I pair up with Celebi?
>>58191830see you in great ball
>>58191813my goal is to use the xaru typhlosion combo to instant win against a mega. other than that I don't really see myself caring about that set unless I see a mega Pinsir
>>58191876Xatu/typhlosion/memory light seems cool for when megas come out. The memory light is a fail safe if you can’t get typhlosion online.
What's the best Sylvaly deck right now? I wanna climb 1 or 2 UB ranks for the rewards and I want an alternative to Esp/Sylv. Also in Sylv decks do people usually run 2 espeons ex, or 1 ex and 1 normal? I am already running a normal sylveon along the 2 ex.
Made it to ultraball. Done for this month. Anyone who goes for masterball either is mentally ill or TCGP is their job. Donphan + rampardos The og phanpy.
>>58191888>The best Sylvaly deckIt's called Sylveon/Espeon
Trade token stamina is a joke. Did about 5 trades yesterday. Now I need to wait 115hrs to do that again. Trading 1diamond cards shouldn’t require this much waiting.
Was up against an intriguing team given the dude had a master ball emblem so I thought he had a good brew going, but he just ragequitKomala x2, Magby x2 and Pichu x2 for cheap energy into Komala, plus a Darkrai EX for safetyWhat a loser I wanted to see how this could brew
You should be able to discard x10 1 diamond cards for 1 hourglass. X5 2 diamond card for 1 hourglass. X2 3 diamond for 1 hourglass. 1x 4 diamond for 5 hourglasses X2 1 star for 5 hourglasses X1 2 star for 12 hourglasses X1 3 star for 24 hourglasses X1 crown for 36 hourglasses The likelihood is you will lose out on value each time but you’re rolling the dice.
>>58191938You should be able to discard 10 1 diamond cards from the same set to get a random 2 diamond from that set, then 10 2ds for a 3d, etc.
>>58191944Yeah don’t mind that idea either. Like what is the point in me having x33 dedenne
>go first>loseI hate this game.
>>58191889It's easy to reach masterball anon, you know what you must do
>silver my opponent>he draws the exact card the very next turnYeah, this game totally isn't rigged. It decides who it wants to win, and will do anything possible for that to happen.
>>58191975The number of games between ultraball and master ball is what? 100? If everything goes smoothly. Who the fuck has time for that shit?
>>58191988That's like 4 games a day.
>>58191990If everything goes well and you win virtually all the time.
>>58191994?Don't be a shitter?
Pokemon go has increased level cap to 80. They also allow exp earned whilst at 50 to instantly count towards 80. When will this happen in pocket?
>>58191996I’m not. I’m at 65% win rate but still it’ll take longer than I can be arsed to do.
>>58192029If it doesn't happen for the anniversary, it never will.
>>58192040What date is that?
>>58192046End of October.
Is he good right now?
>>58191889I hit masterball after 2 and a half hours this month, once ur starting at high ultras its a piss easy grind with a decent deck, i used sui ninja
>>58192072>sui ninjathis is haram behavior
Now this is a brew
>>58192072Am I cooked chat
What are the best masterball badges to have in display?
>>58192128would use giratina varient over mantyke if u can, prob with mantyke is its better having sui draw than the extra energy 90% of the time
>>58192051>takes 3+ turns to kill all meta EXs in play right now and gets one-shot by most of themWhat do you think?
What even counters Sui?
>>58192180Espeon that doesn't have its own bench set up.
>>58192180darktina does well against it
>>58192180Electric type decks
CELEBIKEKS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO KILL MEGAS NEXT UPDATE?
>>58192202Wait did that dumbass opponent really attack your sylveon and let you draw again?
>>58192202It would be a shame if the opponent were to use red card or mars...
Would this deck work?
>>58192210If your hand is full you can't devolve because the card can't go back to your hand
>>581922732 Lillie to heal jumpluff? A pokemon that by design rarely takes dmg? You probably dont need that anon.
>>58192362Aight thanksWhat would be a good replacement? The Sylveon engine?
>>58192367I think Oricorio is a requirement with Jumpluff. You probably dont need 2 celebi like I dont think you'll have that many opportunities to devolve stuff, people play a lot of basic EX. Maybe go 1 celebi 1 oricorio. Also you may want 1 copy of the jumpluff middle stage to increase consistency since you're not playing the card draw legendary beasts.
>>58192383Aight thanks
>>58192392I think the general idea of the deck has potential. Jumpluff is a good card and I think there's probably lots of different viable decks for it. You'll probably have to do more tinkering with it but I think it's a good idea.
>>58192402It feels like the upgrade of the Tapu Koko from the Solgaleo pack. Tried it once but the deck was way too slow to function properly
>Raikou has a lower HP and Weaker attack than Suicune and EnteiWhat the fuck? Do they hate electric?
>>58192412Top kok was too slow because of 3 energyJumpluff can be faster but it takes up way more slots in the deck... I think it has potential because the tapu Koko deck was fun even though it was bad. Ironically now with Pichu maybe it would be better than before?Jumpluff is really cool but it feels like it's missing something. Oricorio is great but it doesn't work against every deck, I feel like there needs to be another wall for it to switch into, but there's not a lot of things with high HP that can pivot around.I almost want to play around with something like Snorlax and ilima with jumpluff
>>58192482If you play a higher retreat cost tank you can run Lyra to switch it out
>>58192492That's a great idea, I didn't think of that
Is Donphan EX better with Rampardos or Lucario ?
Sorry to all the anons I destroyed with the Eevee deck. I didn't want to but it was the only way to climb
They should do a pack where the shinies are all old promo cards.
>>58192585with new memory item lucario is a bit more consitent, rampardos can be brick city sometimes
>>58192604Post brew
This is legit a strong and fun brew you catch so many people off guard and 300 damage over 2 turns with will crushes most decks
>finally go second>opponent gets everything necessary for a turn 3 crobatThis game is fair and not biased.
>>58192676You can tell this is a brew. The devs NEVER intended for you to use Will with Alolan Exeggutor
>>58192671Aren't all brews the same? A red card here and there but nothing really changes muchAlso I'm not a whale between, just got lucky with the Eevee cards for some reason
If I had 2 Jumpluf I would try this brew
>>58192694What's your win loss
>>58192709It's not a huge sample size but whatever, I was just stuck in the middle of UB4 13 wins6 victories Use your eeveebags wisely
>>5819272713 wins6 loses I mean
>>58192706What does the boat do though? Is getting Suicune down to 1 retreat cost that important?.
>>58192683>pick a deck that is good at going first>go first>brick
>>58192753So you can switch to jumpluf againThen you attackThen suicune is in the active spot again and you draw a card for free
LF: 2x Darkrai EXFT:1x Ho-Oh EX1x Eevee EX1x Crabominable EX1x Passimian EX2x Giratina EX1x Clodsire EX1x Beedrill EX1x Garchomp EX1x Leafeon EX1x Pachirisu EX1x Yanmega EX1x Articuno EXFriend code: 3157377144422510darkai keep avoiding me only relevant old EX i dont have.
Dragonite is a really fun deck rn
>>58192804What changed? It's the same as last patch
>>58192810I didn't play it last set
>>58192804Post brew
>>58192804Are you using memory light tool?
>>58192845no? what card would that even be good with
Fuck players who try to waste everyone’s time and stall. Why are they like this?
>>58192931Is this a troll post?
>>58192936it has to be. I refuse to believe there's people lacking self-awareness that much
I love how dena can just add a pack with only 2 good cards and we just kinda have to take it up the ass after. Like its not disingenuous to say Suicune and Mantyke are the only relevant cards this expansion.
>>58192931I do this to darktina and sylveon players all the time it's pretty funny
>>58192960That's incredibly disingenuous
>>58193010and why is that? the meta is exactly the same except for suicune decks now being included. The only other one showing any kind of potential is raikou Magnezone
Not a single entei deck can do a damn thing, that makes me so sad. What were they thinking with its side effect? 4 energy for fucking 120 damage is a joke.
>>58192960>add only 2 good cards>each one has an >10% chance of appearingThis game appears generous because you're showered in resources, but then it pulls shit like this under the hood.
>>58193037Having the option to do 60 and 120 is good. Problem is the support for it is clunky. Moltres is the only decent supplier for that much early energy, but takes a lot of luck and a pretty specific hand to get it online early enough to do any good.
please can someone trade me a Lillie and x2 Lyra's if you got spares I really need them for ranked (I can trade for anything if needed)
>>58193241Give me Lumberry, Hiker and Mystic Slab 4856994548699282
>>58193272thanks mate I sent you the invite
Man it’s hard finding a deck that’s both fun and consistentWhat are people running other than SuicuneTbh I completely skipped playing during Eevee set aren’t Espeon and Sylveon cancer
>>58193298No problem
>>58192880For healing Dragonite...
>>58193338>wasting a turn to heal 30Sounds really, really bad. Just use Lillie or Iridia.
>>58193328thank you so much !!
I've been playing Umbreon brew with good results against Suicune, since baby Umbreon completely blueballs it. But Umbreon unfortunately and ironically loses against Espeon so those are keeping me from climbing with it. Otherwise it handles most other decks really well...Dark pendant puts in work for negating the legendary cats/dogs/rodents. It doesn't help too much for Sylveon since she gets cards for you on the same turn so gets to use all their Oaks/Pokeballs as soon as they're drawn. But the legendary weasels are pretty cucked by it.
having a heck of a time getting poison barb. any anons have an extra or two? 1298483666197679
>>58193395Give me GA Marowak and GA Mienshao4856994548699282
>>58193386On another note, they really should have given EX Umbreon 1 retreat cost. A large part of what makes Espeon so much better is how quick it can come in and out of active. It's really not fucking fair. They do the same damage, have the same HP, and same energy requirements for their attacks. Umbreon just arbitrarily has more retreat cost. They could have given it extra damage or HP to compensate, but it really just isn't as agile Espeon which is what really sets it back. I have to put an x-speed in my deck to account for it, and have to of course decide when and where to use it during the game while Espeon just dances back and forth whenever it pleases. Umbreon actually beats Espeon if it just has the same level of freedom.
>>58193434Umbreon was never going to be as good as Espeon because it doesn't have the same type as Sylveon.
>>58193434Umbreon is better than Espeon in a vacuum. >>58193450 is correct Umbreon issue is that is needs non-eeveeloution Pokemon for support and Espeon doesn't
>>58193405>>58193395Revoked. Took too long.
>>58193405added you, I have the Mienshao
Post some fun non-EX or extremely niche EX decks
>>58193610i'm on that dogshit brew grind (need a 2nd Will)
>>58193450>>58193466Yea, Sylveon is a good partner for Espeon. But Espeon would be a lot easier to deal with if it was 2 retreat cost. At 1 retreat cost it pretty much gets to freely heal back and forth. At 2 it would have to be more strategic over how it moves in and out, maybe even reserve a slot for Dawn/X-speed like I have for Umbreon. But if Umbreon had that same option then it would be flexible enough to pivot into another attacker. There are many times where I'd win a game if I pulled a backline in with Umbreon's ability, switch into baby Umbron to restrict it from attacking, and then finish it off the next turn by switching back to EX Umbreon. Or similar combos. But they require too many energies since both baby and EX Umbreon have 2 retreat costs, so they're too much of a commitment.Umbroen takes more work than Espeon to be good, but it's actually not a bad card. My point is that 1 energy retreat wouldn't make Umbreon broken but it actually does make it stand a better chance against Espeon...which it should naturally counter anyway. With Darkrai as a partner, I often times could win if I was able to swap between Darkrai and Umbreon more fluidly to tank hits. But Umbreon eats too much energy on recall so it's usually stuck eating more damage than it should be. I still like Umbreon deck for what it is really. I'm just annoyed that they just flat out made Umbreon worse with no tradeoff. I wouldn't care so much if it had 100 damage or 160 HP (which is more fitting given its tanky stats). Then it at least can 1v1 Espeon with the help of Eevee bags/Darkrai. But as it is now, Espeon does a good job outhealing just barely enough to skirt by and win the 1v1 (or 1v2 I guess, since Espeon's game plan is swapping between its twin to manage damage...)
looking for anyone with a spare elemental switch, let me know if you need anything in particular
>>58193699Sorry but what fucking games are you having where Espeon retreat is an issue? It sounds to me like you're trying to make baby Umbreon work with Umbreon sex and it's weird. Umbreon ex doesn't care when Espeon retreats
>>58192960but /tcgp/ said the dogs are all useless
Haubros I can't climbLast time was hard but everyone is playing super fast decks now. 180HP mons aren't worth it when you can only tank 1 attack. Even with 2 Lillie's the damage back to back is way too much
>>58193790Suicune is good, raikou is mediocre and entei is homeless.
>>58193815Entei is not worse than Raikou
I have gotten nothing from wonder pick since the last peek event.
>>58193811Maybe incineroar and entei could work?
>>58193839Lucklet, check this out
>>58193843I seriously doubt it. May as well play babies with Cleffa and Magby
>>58193853I didn't even hunt for any 2 star cards, just the few 3 and 4 diamond cards that I'm still missing.It's usually not that bad, but my luck for this set was complete garbage.
>>58193838nah it is 4 energy for big damage is too slow, raikou dmg is mid but it sets up for nice cyrus plays
>>58193879Raikou has pathetic damage Entei can be swinging for full damage turn 2
>>58193838I literally cannot find a semi successful ranked climb or tourney placement with entei. I can for Raikou
Is the new set any good? Everything looks mid.
>>58193902The only usable cards are mantyke and suicune so take that as you will
>>58193902Suicune is busted to the point where you should be opening this pack until you get it.
Stoutland Crawdaunt just can’t do anything against Sabrina and Cyrus and Team Rocket Grunt flipping heads and…..Honestly Crawdaunt doesn’t even really feel worth it I wonder if legit just running Porygon Z or something else would be better
Silver is a niggerSimply 'as
>>58193927try running crawdaunt and porygon z, porygon is worse than stoutland but is astronomically more consistent
>>58194037What makes it more consistent? The fact the effect can’t be Sabrina’d away?
>>58194060Well pretty much just porygon 2's ability making it so you dont have to run rare candies
>>58194060Porygon2 evolves immediately.
>>58193853Explode. I usually would have gotten at least one by now.
>get two heads with Guzzlord>instant concedeIt’s like a 25% chance to win every time you attack lmao
Any Morty deck?
I feel dumb, what is the point of Eevee EX?Is it just that it is a 1 energy 30 Eevee?
>>58194317you get to have 4 eevees in your deck which is good
In one month we are getting 6 new item cards from the shop
>>58194340Hopefully they aren't as useless as the original items, Pokball and X Speed aside
New Pluff Thread>>58194437>>58194437
>>58194083>>58194136Man this is a fun deck, but the fact it isn't a static ability like Stoutland means they can just set up on their bench way easierI guess I don't really need to run rare candies so I could do 2 sabrina to fuck with that? idk
>>58193746Yes, Umbreon does care when it retreats cause that means it heals 60 of the 100 damage it just took, and that's without Eevee bags. Even if you call Espeon back out, it healed most of what you dealt to it. Retreating for Espeon means 60 health restoration minimum, so making it think twice about going back instead of maintaining tempo for doing so would do more damage to it (literally) than you're recognizing. 30 HP healing isn't what makes Espeon hard to deal with, it's 60 HP healing.
