BEHOLD the only fire starters who didn’t flop
>>58192619erm... typhlosion doe?
>>58192619Emboar is my least favorite despite having a variety of TM learn sets.
>>58192643I’m of the only people on this Vietnamese octupus fucking forum who actually likes Typhlosion and I’m not delusional enough to think normies ever gave a shit about it .
>>58192619Weezers
Typhlosionbros!?
>>58192669>octupusoctopus*
Kanto Fatigue
>>58192825small indie spell check, please understand
>>58192643not even successful in gen 2
>>58192619Forcefully pushed by TPC ≠ didn't flop
Fire starters have the most consistently good designs. The ugliest one is probably Delphox, which isn't even that bad.
>>58192619Infernape is bad?
>>58192939looks like a middle stage
>>58192939he lacks character
Incineroar was an industry plant
>>58192619Kinda funny how they refuse to give embort any for of love despite GF trying so hard to make it a shillmon in ZA lol
>>58192939it didn’t even get a new form in either bdspiss or ZA. tpc just hate it
>>58192619>Charizard, Blaziken, Cinderace and IncineroarBEHOLD the most shilled fire startersftfy
>>58192619My heroes, charizard and blaziken.... oh and those ugly cereal mascots besides them.
>>58192932>Cinderace, Incineroar, Skeledirge, Delphox, Emboar>Good
>>58192619>implying i would want infernape to be associated with incinshit and cinderbitchall yours
>>58192619Why's inshiteroar there?
>>58192619Nobody likes that ugly ronald mcdonald rabbit.
>>58192939>shit remake made by pajeets>cucked by Cyndaquil in PLAss>cut from any marketing They’re trying to replace sinnoh with shitsui
>>58193243because it’s a popular and beloved Pokémon unlike some shitmon that flop so hard they had to be sent to plass jail to be regionally replaced like typhlosion or emboar
>>58193259Emboar’s getting a mega, you mentally challenge tranny
>>58192619Literally all Fire starters (besides Emboar) have at least decent fanbases, they all appear in the 2020 vote results (Skeledirge isn't here because the vote was made during SwSh, but I know for sure that this one is popular as well).I don't hate Emboar myself (I think the line is just whatever) but it is the only fire starter that "flopped".
>>58193268>lumiosan Emboar’s getting a megaftfy
>>58193308Zazisters…
>>58193316Lmfao I never noticed that Zamazenta wasn't even in the Top 30 of Galar
>>58193325woops, it's in there actually,disregard this, I suck cocks etc...
>>58193308>Melmetal is treated as a gen 8 monso why do people pretend that hisuian mons aren’t from gen 9 again?
>>58193308>Typedos >decent
>>58192619Cinderace didn’t flop but Delphox did?I don’t believe it, sorry.
>CinderFLOPSo we're just lying now?
>>58193368>your opinion >mattering Begone secondary
>>58193372>>58193308>26k vs 10k voteslol
>>58192619Love Cinderace, he's cool
>>58192939Monferno is the best gen 4 middle evo by a mile, but Infernape feels very uninspired. He’s just fire wukong.
>>58194030incredibly good taste, I've only ever met one or two other monferno enjoyers before.
>>58192619>Cinderwho
>>58193396>le secondaryKEEEEK TYPEDO EXPOSED
>>58192643People wanted to fuck baylef because of the anime or loved totodile.Thyplosion was just famous for being a fire type with thunder punch, once it lost it all it's relevance disappeared too. It rather sad how only a few autist cared too much about it enough to hinder it's reputation.
>>58194236>once it lost it all it's relevance disappeared too.What are you talking about? Even up until Gen 8 t was one of the most popular starters despite never having been one of the last shilled Pokemon of all time (remember this was before Legends). The thing that ruined its reputation were the FreakLeaks and secondaries cancel culturing it.
>>58194236>being this delusional
>>58192619MY FUCKING HEROES
>>58192619CinderBased and his Squad
>>58194476...and Cinderass...
>>58192619>cinderacekys lmao
>>58192669>thinks typhlosion isn't a normalfag favourite>thinks liking typhlosion is a minority on /vp/You're double delusional.
>>58192619Typhlosion sex leaks are non canon. I'm keeping my Typhlosions. Instead, I released my Victreebels over that ugly mega evolution.
>>58192619Love how Cinderace makes fags seethe on here lmao and TPCi keeps giving him promotions
>>58192619Look at those ugly shillmons and charizard.
>>58193353I hate that Game Freak broke their rule of having each generation be a swathe of new mons and now just keep fucking introducing new Pokemon in each game because it makes the idea of "generations" seem completely obsolete now. They all might as well be Gen 8 since they're all on the same console and feature some interactivity through Home
>>58192619>>58192939Infernape carried Ashnime's arc through Diamond and Pearl era and was de facto competitive staple before being inevitably powercrept. He just came from an era where the shillmon propaganda wasn't so whorish.
>>58193308>Only loses to pokémon everyone uses in Sinnoh and ShillplupOP smoking crack, dumbass "flop" narrative
>>58196820Also doesn't help that he came during the Gen where the biggest shillmon of all time spawned
>>58196820It came from the era of Lucario. That’s when shillmons started becoming what they are today
My bro might not have a Mega, but he's still playable and easily obtainable in peak Kinnoh and Battle Revolution. Don't think Champions will live up to PBR, nor that is its purpose.
>>58194654Then maybe game deal should capitalize on its popularity then.
>>58192619The worst starter type.
>>58192619cinderace is the most forced shillmon ever. nobody actually likes this thing besides furries.
>>58192619I love Cinderace and Blaziken
>>58193316I love me Zam, but he was super ultra turbo-mogged in SwSh so it placing badly was hardly surprising, it was 100% unironically the biggest mistreatment a "Second Version" Legendary gotten with how lopsided shit was. Even when people memed about Kyurem (Black IIRC) it was nowhere near as bad as people clowning on Zamazenta becaue Zamazenta was being measured with Zacian at her best and with her (and Eternatus) being the Raid "I WIN" Pokémon of the generation that were just objectively more useful even outside of competitive and the POWER GAP was so wide even casuals could see it. Im saying this as a Shieldbro.Body Press have helped but the First Impression has been made, so he has a lot of bias against him as being a inherently lame dog with a tard helmet on.
>>58198040I don't believe it.
>>58192619And Cinderace...
I Kneel