>old pokémon get a new split evolution>it’s worst in every single ways compared to the original one despite being harder to obtainwhy does this always happen?
>>58193090because you bought it anyway
>>58193093True. This wouldn’t have happened if gs had flopped like it was supposed to do
>>58193090it has better design and can set up stealth rock
>>58193090>Please GF powercreep every old mon harder next time
>>58193122>it has better design Objectively wrong. Nobody like the ugly old bugman with rocky facial hair >can set up stealth rockso can 60% of the mons in the game
>slash>steel bludgeon/crush>rock cleaveI like where this is going. When's the ice evo that uses thrusting attacks? It's like Scyther is getting his very own Regi trio of evolutions.
>>58193090it is fate
>>58193090scyther's still the best
>>58193398give stabzor glacial lance
>>58193175>Nobody like the ugly old bugman with rocky facial hairScizor is downgrade designwise. Klevor has own problems but actually looks more like a propper evo. I would make it hidden power evo.
>>58193090I actually like Kleavor more design-wise. Probably my #1 favorite Bug-type.Can't speak for competitive viability, but it was fun to use in PLA.
>>58193613But it already has icicle SPEAR
>>58193175>Objectively wrongwrong>so can 60% of the mons in the gamenot by attacking
>>58193090kleavor is a much better evolution for scyther than scizor because it keeps the dinosaur look and actually does something with the blade arms. scizor cool and all but it's so different it may as well be completely unrelated.
>>58193090Worked well enough for Politoed and Froslass
>>58193650in what world is scizor a downgrade
>>58194528every world that scyther exists
>>58193090What is Metal Coat? I just thought it was a hunk of metal
>>58193090Klevor is great stone axe sets up rocks
>>58193090>why does this always happen?idk bro i dont think this always happens
>>58194542only if you're a contrarian.
>>58195352I find it hard to believe scizor's more popular
>>58195352there is no way you think scizor is cooler than fucking scyther be so for real right now
>>58195352scizor is a shitmon my dude
Scizor is so fucking cool bros.
I don't know why some schizo is arguing in here, literally everyone has agreed that scizor is one of the most popular pokemon for decades. Easily top 50 worldwide. And when you consider how many shillmons and legendaries are in that top 50, he stands out pretty hard.
>>58193398>>58193613I stand by the notion that all Gen I and even some Gen II Pokemon should get new evolutions based on the later Gens' regions. Regional forms are okay, but Kleavor is a good example of giving an old Pokemon a new spin. Plus shit like Galarian Weezing is disappointing for not capitalizing on the Choaking triplet concept mentioned in the Pokedex.
>>58195843There are some mons that I wish would get different evolutions, but I hate this idea that you HAVE to let shitmons be shitmons forever and are only allowed to "fix" them through regional forms or megas or some other stupid bullshit. There's zero reason pokemon that have cool designs but shit stats can't just be straight up buffed without needing some other alternate form.
>>58195886That's why I said Galarian Weezing was a waste. You could have regular Weezing evolve into Choaking at Galar instead. In all fairness, you can't just expect a massive jump in stats with some Pokemon. Mons like Ledian needs an evolution. The eeveelutions need a stat buff.Sunflora definitely needs a stat buff given that you evolve it with a stone.
>>58195843regionals can be ok though, look at A-Exeggutor. It would probably be a completely different mon in current day, though
>>58195357>>58195632>>58195771>nobody likes ScizorI guess this is what shitposting contrarianism is attaching itself to nowadays.
>>58196124>less popular than fucking typedo Shit-zor flopped
>>58196124>more popular than espeonGODzor was a huge success
>>58196124i didn't say no one likes scizor you disengenuous fucking cunt i said scyther is cooler, because it is
>>58193650we were robbed
>>58196124I didn't say no one like scizor>I guess this is what shitposting contrarianismhow the fuck is contrarianism if I thought scyther was more popular, are you retarded
>>58196700This is just green Scizor
>>58193114Masuda's games are all dogshit
They'll give it a Mega in gen 10 and suddenly it'll be everyone's favorite
>>58196124>kleavor didn’t even make the listregional flop
>>58198993how was meant to make a list that existed before he was even out
>>58196140If it was a flop it wouldn't have appeared on the image at all. All of the pokemon in the image are popular, not flops.
>scizor looks like scyther if it was dipped in metal and smoothed down >kleavor is scyther, but if scyther was an old japanese man with a beard and topknot uh ok
>>58193122The design is unironically the only reason I don’t use it.It’s like if a Scyther had kids with a Conkeldurr.
>>58195357Scizor has been popular ever since it was revealed. I can almost guarantee that you’re a zoomer. Was your first game Sun and Moon?
>>58199264>Was your first game Sun and Moon?I would be an alphoomer if that were the case
>>58196283>>58196940Read the thread >>58195357
>>58199277that's not me saying no one likes scizor you retard that was me saying I found it hard to believe scizor's more popular than scyther
>>58196700just get a shiny scizor.
>>58199367Shiny Scizor really is one of the few green shinies that actually looks good
>>58196283Scyther isn't even on the kanto list while Scizor is 5th. He's clearly the more popular of the 2 overall.That being said Scyther is very cool. He's just been let down by his spritework and modern 3D models. They have him too upright and make him look like a derpy bugman rather than a mantis velociraptor as he was in the stadium games.
>>58196700Just hunt it's fucking shiny, moron.
>>58193090>AuguriteWhat was wrong with augite?
>>58193090
>>58193090As far as nugen evos go it's pretty inoffensive. I don't care about the facial hair, but the arms look like they're too skinny, like they'd snap easily.If you mean in terms of competitive viability, it's just a victim of power creep. In old gens I feel it'd be quite good, but Bug/Rock simply can't cut it nowadays even if it can set rocks on Gholdengo.
>>58193090rock is just fundamentally fucked as a type
>>58200641Wait what? I thought it had more weaknesses than that.
>>58200641Gen 9 and PLA cross-gen evos are either broken, or would have been strong but balanced in gen 4.Kleavor is the latter.
It's like rock paper scissors :)
