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Where does it rank in water starters for you
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idk man I never think about it, probably the most boring starter
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>>58198881
Worse than anything that came before it.
Better than anything that came after.
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why did it take them four generations to correct its hidden ability
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>>58198881
#1 easily
best water starter with the the only downside being it was trapped in no-fire sinnoh
they also didn't know what to do with it at the start
>defiant
LUL
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pretty good, but unfortunately he has to compete with fire monke
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>>58198881
literally peaked with this design and never matched it again

too bad they fucked up its playstyle
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>>58198915
it really is the best designed starter, who can even compete with it?
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>>58198881
Behind Swampert and Feraligatr, ahead of everything else.
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>>58198881
he’s cool and fun to use, at least top 3
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>>58198901
Hoenn had a similar problem but Swampert was such a hard mog in Hoenn that people still pick it and just say fuck Fire types altogether
>Magcargo
>Torkoal
>Camerupt
>Ninetales

Why use any of these when Swampert has no weakness? (not a single fucking Grass specialist in Hoenn)
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>>58198881
Third
Behind Feraligatr and Blastoise
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I'm not exaggerating when I say that Sinnoh has my favorite starter for each type, and I say this as a Johtofag
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>>58198881
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>>58198937
>>58198944
What kind of shit taste do you need to have to think any of these compare to empoleon?
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>>58198881
It's good, although I prefer Swampert and Feraligatr.
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>>58198881
Best of that gen.
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>>58198881
That’s their best designed starter period they really nailed it with sinnoh
>people saying feraligatr
They’re 60 and therefore should be forgotten
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>>58198957
based chronological fag
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>>58198968
Oh my goodness, most people still rank it high
Be grateful that it isn't Inteleon/Quaquaval tier
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>>58198881
At first I didn't care much for it, I preferred infernape and torterra but it has recently grown on me. It's much better than most of the water starters we have now but feraligatr, swampert and blastoise rank higher for me imo.
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>>58198968
damn i love empoleon but you're a cringey fag
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>>58198968
Not him, but I think the weird armor line in the middle of it makes the design worse.
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>>58198991
>be grateful this top tier design isn't abortion tier
lol ok
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>>58198881
#2.
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what's next for him?
mega or regional?
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>>58198881
I don't like how the bottom details of the white part look too much like real clothes, but it is otherwise my favorite water starter. Awesome design and typing
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>>58198881
so ugly not even furries like him and his twp
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>>58199075
How is this supposed to prove he's badly designed?
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>>58199075
>I only like starters I can goon to
Miserable existence
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>>58198889
Pretty much this.
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>>58199075
>NOOOO if I can't jerk off to it, it's...le bad!
Come on now.
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>>58198881
Maybe 4th or 5th? It's hard to compete with Feraligatr
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>>58199075
>Sinnoh starters the overall least popular with furfags
Kinnoh wins again!
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>>58198881
Altohugh I have a slight preference for both Mudkip and Totodile, why didn't Game Freak choose it as the Water starter for ZA?
It is literally based on freaking Napoleon Bonaparte. And also Snivy for the Grass Starter.
Quite frankly, the Johto starters make zero sense for ZA and could have been easily replaced by these two. Emboar makes no sense either but I don't know what starter could replace it.
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>>58199075
That’s not his fault.
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>>58199075
that is a good thing
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>ferfagligatr
the johto white bread of all starters
>swampert
the down syndrome pokemon

empoleon is the best
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>>58199079
you have to be a pornie to understand
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>>58199101
the end of pokémon
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>>58199101
>adventure with your cool starter
>pray to the gods
>go home and fuck your furry wife
Sinnoh be like that
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>>58199148
>Ferfagligatr
>Not Feraligayturd
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>>58198881
The 2020 vote gave us a rank for Water starters:
>Greninja
>Swampert
>Primarina
>Empoleon
>Inteleon
>Feraligatr
>Blastoise
>Samurott

And for the starters themselves:
>Mudkip
>Piplup
>Totodile
>Oshawott
>Squirtle
>Sobble
>Popplio
>Froakie

Empoleon's line is doing pretty fine, much better than Blastoise's and Feraligatr's, which kinda surprised me. Not even the power of genwun could defeat it.
The only line it consistently loses to is Swampert's.
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>>58199247
The mudshit line is so overrated.
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>>58199247
this is more worthless than some random poll from reddit because each region is divided
https://pastebin.com/rFq663H7
>swampert, greninja, blastoise, empoleon, feraligatr, samurott, primarina, inteleon, fag duck
in that order
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>>58199261
>immediate seething about Swampert
You guys are never happy.
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>>58199266
Agreed this fucking picture has lost it's meaning a long time ago.
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>>58198881
Like this
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>>58199266
what is this pastebin exactly
it is named "untitled"
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>>58199297
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1bozvz5/results_favourite_pokemon_survey_2024/
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>>58199247
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>>58199301
A Reddit survey is worth less than that Pokemon of the year poll.
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>>58199301
isn't that the poll people like to ignore because it is from reddit
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>>58199261
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>>58199311
>>58199318
funny as fuck you say its worthless than post a fucking cropped image from it lol >>58199301
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>>58198881
Second after Primarina
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>>58198881
Top 3, and it didn't deserve to be in games like Unite or Pokken.
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>>58199324
Wrong person, redditor.
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>>58199301
>>58199318
>Only redditors like mudshit and swampass
case and point
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>>58199343
>everything i don't like is LEDDIT!
are you 12
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>>58199359
How am I wrong though? You just posted poll results from redditors?
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>>58199374
then you must hate fucking everything then
besides, the vote was worldwide, not limited to redditors you dumbass
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>>58199389
for the vote I meant the 2020 one, not the reddit poll
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>>58199374
It’s still generally popular according to a non-Reddit. If you still want to whine about it just admit you’re coping and we can all move on.
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Why do empoleonfags hate swampert so much?
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>>58199402
They don’t, it’s just this one autismo.
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>>58199402
it's just one person, most other people in this thread like both empoleon and swampert
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>>58199328
He was one of Pokken's only based picks
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>>58198968
>What kind of shit taste do you need to have to think any of these compare to empoleon?

Swampert laughs at electric Pokemon as it's immune to electric moves, Feraligator does massive damage with the Sheer Force and Life Orb combo.
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>>58198881
#2 right behind samurott
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>>58199197
keeping the old ways alive
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The only reason you care about Empoleon is because of the steel typing attached to it. If it lost the steel typing nobody would treat it nicely. Steel typing is literally a free ticket to first class citizenship in the pokemon world.
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>>58199756
I like it and also forgot it wasn't an ice type
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>>58199756
no one gives a shit about its steel type, half the time it’s brought up is because Torterra can earthquake it
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>>58198881
Unironically 4th for me
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>>58199756
being a penguin is good enough for me
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>>58198881
best water starter ever made
>empoleon
>greninja
>swampert
in that order
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>>58199756
>The only reason you care about Feraligatr is because of the alligator theme attached to it. If it lost the alligator theme nobody would treat it nicely. Being an alligator is literally a free ticket to first class citizenship in the pokemon world.

>The only reason you care about swampert is because of the ground typing attached to it. If it lost the ground typing nobody would treat it nicely. Ground typing is literally a free ticket to first class citizenship in the pokemon world.

what is this argument?
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>>58199057
Water/Fighting regional based on Nobunaga
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>>58199756
>Steel typing is literally a free ticket to first class citizenship in the pokemon world.
That's ghost type
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>>58199895
That's fecaloid thougheverbiet >>>58199717
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4 > 6 > 2 > 1 > 7 > 8 > 3 > 9 > 5

This is an indictment of Water starters desu. Only the first two are really good designs, and there is a steep drop off after Blastoise.
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>>58199903
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>>58198889
Spbp /thread
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>>58198881

As far as design:

1. Empoleon
2. Hisuian Samurott
3. Swampert
4. Greninja
5. Feraligatr

I dont really care about the other water starters
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>>58199914
>thinking facts are bait
either this is bait or you're purposefully contrarian
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>>58199881
....but that's just samurott
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>>58199964
It'll be cooler as a bird
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>>58199974
if we're being honest it would have been cooler for tepig
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>>58199974
for empoleon it should be something like a knight/general or go the opposite of its regal looks and turn it into a water/steel viking
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>>58199995
water/fighting viking starter would be sick
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>>58199979
Isn't he getting a Mega based on a Chinese guy?
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>>58199914
what is there to like about inteleon or quaquavlal?
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>>58200007
what could have been
instead we get pic related
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>>58198881
Samurott destroyed the streak of having cool water starters.
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>>58200024
oshawott had so much promise
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>>58198889
>worse than inteleon or the gay duck
get a grip
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>>58198881
a high B rank all things considered.
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>>58200129
very unique opinion
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>>58200024
This
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>>58198881
It's alright, it's passable
Easily the weakest design out of the 3 fully evolved Sinnoh starters, but overall it's nothing I can really complain about

Piplup is one of the best starters in the series, though
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>>58198968
Get over it, bitch
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>>58200160
Work on your reading comprehension



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