Gamefreak is deliberately ruining the megas of popular pokemon so they don't overshadow charizard
>>58200545neither of these are even remotely close to being as popular as Charizard
>>58200545Imagine letting a POKEMON live rent free in your head like this
>>58200545Starmie's growing on me vertically
Who the fuck cares about Starmie?
>>58200545Starmie's just becoming more of an Ultraman shout out
>>58201470Staryu was my first bromon
>>58201470Me
>>58201470Plenty of genwunners, it has a good presence in the early Anime due being Misty's ace (And the Anime going LOL, FISH ON LAND about Goldeen and Seaking) before going full Jobbermon and being replaced on top of being pretty darn good in the games. It is basically "Water Arcanine" in a sense.
>>58200545The only reason people even remember starmie is because misty use one as an accessory
>>58200545>baragatr>popularfunny
>>58202209Starmie was always a jobber because she evolved it way too early hence why misty was training staryu.
>>58201470people with taste
>>58201470It was OU for like 6 gens
Remember a few years ago when starmie was popular on vp?I know this board has more kids than others but do you think pokemon is becoming less popular with children?
>>58202540I think it’s more like this place has become filled with jaded disingenuous shitposters
>>58202410>popularYes.>funnyI can't even say that about your post
>>58202540>Remember a few years ago when starmie was popular on vp?That was before it fell down the meta ladder. When it was OU we loved it, but rain got nerfed and boltbeam lost its effectiveness when the meta centralized around fairy and steel so we don't have any reason to care about it anymore. It's a has-been.
>>58202548It’s been like that for almost a decade. The shittier the franchise gets, the more real fans disengage or flat-out leave the franchise. All that’s left behind are irony-poisoned secondaries who use Pokémon as a platform to shitpost, and the ultra casual sheep who soak up that bullshit.
>>58202567That's a good point. The meta can't shake my convictions about most pokemon but when they decimate in randoms it can make me like them more. Rillaboom and barbaracle have grown on me a lot.
>>58202596Almost any normal type becomes OP in random battles because of the level scaling and because they end up low tier while having high attack stats.
>>58200545They have Staryu pose bending it's arms in one of the key arts. Did it always do this?Regardless, I think it's going to make the design more apealing. The mega imitating humans is killer, doing more with less. I think the animations is going to win us over
>>58202639Yes, og Starmie was stretchy, had weird humanlike aimations in stadium and Staryu's japanese name is Starfish Man. This got toned down a lot in the anime and later gens though
>>58202639>>58202698The strange animations. it bends it's points as if it has knees and elbows
>>58200545>popular Feraligatr and Starmie are C listers generously speaking.
>>58202733By your metrics, is Arcanine one too? Surely my bro is atleast a B-Lister along with Growlithe. Right?
>>58200545Then why did they ruin Victreebel and not Hawlucha?
>>58202567there's a lot thats contributed to starmies fall, not just boltbeam, it just cant keep up with the times.if it was in gen 9 it would be laughably out of place in terms of power level. 115 speed doesn't cut it for offensive mons anymore unless you hit as hard as an atom bomb, which starmie doesn't with its measly 100 sp.atk.in a meta with ghold it wouldn't be able to rapid-spin effectively at allgets cucked by gambit sucker punch.if it wants to be strong it would have to run specs, in which case its slower than the likes of darkrai and iron valiant, and if it wants to be fast it has to run scarf, which makes it laughably weak.even something as nuclear as barrascewda in rain is all the way in NU. I'd be surprised if starmie didn't end up untiered.
>>58202752Arcanine is very popular, it has a decent amount of merch nowadays
>>58203025Women like big dogs.
>>58200545Gamefreak is deliberately ruining the megas of popular pokemon not because of Charizard, but so that you don't ask for more megas in the near future.
