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Tech Support Edition

>What is Pokémon Masters EX?
A mobile Pokémon game that's real-time instead of turn-based and focuses on collecting trainers instead of Pokémon.

>Pokemon Masters EX Links and Guides
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18n7Uvdb2_5UgWH-O0DkXHkogNbMkxRiBIaBpCJHIR0A/

>Sync Grid Simulator
https://pomatools.github.io/

>Sync Pair Tracker
https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
https://pokemon.brybry.ch/masters/programme.html

>Model ripping/datamining project (3vp) FAQ
https://pastebin.com/6GWPiFu1

>Upcoming Events
https://pm-events.github.io
https://pastebin.com/u/Absol-utely

>Pokémon Masters EX soundtrack with the latest tracks
https://mega.nz/folder/bwp3iQrY#IiZ1Uxz0xwutZHENqntDeA

>Trainer Lodge Interaction Charts
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1GET825rR31lZD9RWSKDh7gtrHs5_0giA

Previous Thread:>>58184381
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>>58204644
Irida
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'vents
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I love my cute wife Whitney! The most adorable girl in the whole universe!
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>>58204667
I much prefer the dress in pink.
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>>58204644
>anniversary so bad it killed the thread
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>>58204818
I love being hit with a filler arc in-between the actual dogshit story line where nothing happens but characters talking about how cool Tera is. It's bafflingly shit and only worthwhile if you give a shit about any of these Paldea goobers
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>>58204667
i really don't like the textures of the outfit, it looks so silly
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>>58204829
It looks like those cheap sparkly stickers for girls lol
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>you can't roll for NC Bianca
pain
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Sure can't wait to get a 5* power-up as the final reward of this 30k point event
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>>58205293
Hopefully soon, anon. I want to see how they power her up even more with the 4/5 and 5/5 nodes.
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>>58205711
Can they at least be Superawakened now?
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>>58205890
No and I swear to God that they better never add superawakening for Master Fairs because that's a retardedly high investment even for Poké Fairs. Getting a Master Fair to 5/5 is already cost-heavy.

I was actually excited for superawakening when they announced it, one of the updates I anticipated most, but I was completely let down by it practically being paypig only.
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>>58205711
As a new player which of these 3 is the better unit nowadays?
I got Steven but I really wanted Lillie
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>>58206076
If i recall correctly, Lillie is a strictly worse version of NC Selene for ghost

Steven I've actually seen used enough that i remember what it does so I assume he's the best.
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>>58206076
N is shockingly good at AOE sync nukes when fully invested. He got me through most of the high floors in the Fire tower, and if you pair him with Champion Leaf or Arc Suit Silver, he'll just vaporize teams with 300k+ per opponent every sync.
Steven was fine enough when he was released, but even back then, "fine enough" for a Master Fair made him relatively disappointing, especially with his awful base stats. They've tried to fix him with an EX role and some grid updates that makes him something of a combined strike/tech/sprint/field, and you can get some utility out of that. I've seen that someone managed to beat floor 30 of the Flying tower with him on the team, so he's not hopeless, but he's extremely reliant on other characters buffing him since it would take so long to do it on his own (X Attack x3, Draco Meteor x3, Dragon Ascent x6, Trainer Move x2 = five syncs in before he maxes himself)
Lillie was the best Ghost strike at the time, piercing damage was still new, but she fell off as it became more common and she cost too much gauge. They've fixed that by having her get free moves next every time she attacks (as well as filling the gauge after sync, which still hits hard as strike+tech), and she greatly benefits from being with Champion Selene who can set up Ghost Zone, and Lillie will no longer cannibalize the gauge while Selene does. They still need a good support between the two of them.
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>>58206076
Lillie if not 5/5 is ass
N only works at 3/5 or more, desperately needs EXR
Steven DPS is solid but his sync is utter garbage unless 4/5 and exr

I genuinely think for new players Steven is the better drop, as flying physical has very dogshit freebies/gen pools
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>>58205906
buff them then
no the grid expansion is not enough, touch the fuck kits
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>>58206376
Some characters, especially the older they get, won't be meta or game breaking because of power creep. Sygna Suit Steven & Deoxys is a Poké Fair while Steven (Anniversary 2021) & Rayquaza is a Master Fair, yet Deoxys completely outshined it. Rayquaza has some unique utility by now being able to create a Flying Zone, and a fully invested one actually has some use, but don't go expecting it to ever be comparable to Arc Suit Cynthia & Garchomp.

I have SS Morty at level 200, maximum superawakening, EX role, 6EX, 70/60 grid, you name it, but the fact of the matter is that even if his bulk is only slightly below AS Steven & Mega Metagross, he cannot buff Attack or Sp. Atk above a +2 no matter how you grid him. Instead, he's built around having ridiculous sun support.
>Sunny Day
>Sunny Day: MP Refresh 3
>Sunny Day: Team Body-Bracing Affliction 2 - raises party Defense by +2
>Sunny Day: Team Mind-Bracing Affliction 2 - raises party Sp. Def by +2
>Sunny Day: Team Hit and Heal - applies gradual healing to the party
>Group Afflictor's Advantage 1 - raises the party's main stats by +1 the first time a status move (Sunny Day) is used
>Believe! - also raises crit by +1 during sun
>Believe!: MP Refresh 3
>Team Sunbathe 9 - Restores the HP of all allied sync pairs when the user uses a move while the weather is sunny
>A Golden Future - Extends sunny, raises users phys/special moves by +1 after using a status move (Sunny Day)
>EX role - Field (makes the weather sunny after sync)
>Team Gimme Five 1 - raises party's main stats by +1 after first sync
>Sunny Disposition - user's stats can't be lowered in the sun
>Speeding Sun 2 - move gauge charges faster in sun
>Sunbathe 9 - restores user's HP when using a move in sun

It's just unfortunate he can't be gridded to hold them all at once. If grids could be even more open, so many characters would improve.
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What's the deal with grinding event points
The 30 stamina ultra hard battle is once a day so I do that and then autocomplete as many of the 20 stamina very hard battles as possible?
Am I getting that right or is there a better way
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>>58207210
That's the most efficient way
If you don't have any of the anniversary pairs, use the Paldea starter freebies to get the biggest multiplier
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>>58207220
Ah, cool
I feel bad that I've missed a couple of days worth of progress unlocking all of the trainings and whatnot but eh what can you do
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>>58207239
The event runs for over a month and even with the full bonus pairs it takes 10 days or so to get the 30k ticket, don't worry about it.
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>>58207273
If you were to do the daily battle with the three 1.6x multipliers, you'd get 22,400 points for 1200 stamina. The six unlocked battles would get you 540 points for 120 stamina. Then you'd get the remaining 7040 points through the standard battles.

Optimally
>Part 1 battle is 51-60 points for 15 stamina, one win is mandatory to unlock part 2
>Part 2 battle is 90-102 points for 20 stamina
So the least amount of stamina is
>40 daily battles at 30 each (22,400)
>6 unlockable battles at 20 each (540)
>1 part 1 battle at 15 each (60)
>69 part 2 battles at 20 each (7038)
For 30,038 points costing 2715 stamina. Across 40 days, you would get 22,400 stamina without boosts, meaning 19,685 to spare. But this also assumes you get insanely lucky and get the maximum random bonus value every time.
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>>58207336
More or less, but I'm just using assuming everybody is using all their stamina on the event because dragging things for too long is a pain.
There's also the new Arceus chapter later in the month, with its relative event.
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>>58207356
It's not like there's anything else to use stamina on anyway, and the way to get the most stamina is to always have it be charging at any given time, so we're inevitably going to hit the point where we hit 30k points but have nothing but training areas to spend stamina on.
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TeraRed is probably going to be meta-level for a while, right? Part of me is debating going for it as I haven't had a really meta pair in years.

But another part of me says an Arc waifu might be coming and need saving for. Could be meta enough
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Apologies for the late chart
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Kinda sucks to do the whole thing again with no rewards just so I can complete the whole thing a third time but I should re-complete the champion stadium to complete the medal and unlock master mode, right?
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>>58207994
Yeah, Master Mode is the whole reason to do it, that's where you get the actual rewards.
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>>58208008
Actually having to play the game...
How dreadful...
Is the medal a one-time thing or do you have to complete it every month?
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I'm halfway through the villain arc and I don't hate it but man this is taking forever. Does the main story pick up much or get any better?
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>>58208014
One time for each region (minus Galar which doesn't have a Champion Stadium). When they first added it, you had to make your teams across two weeks cover all 18 types. I remember doing 15 types the first week and 3 types with the remaining 12 being whatever on the second. The game's at the point where basic Champion Stadium is really, really easy, but that's what 5 years of powercreep will do. They cycle through regions every four weeks.
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>chart-anon-kun is kil
No...
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>>58208077
The villain arc is alright for its first half and it's completely uninteresting for the second half. Originally, it went Kanto > Sinnoh > Johto > Hoenn > Unova... because BDSP had just come out, so Sinnoh got prioritized. This was also when Cynthia & Giratina dropped which was cross-media foreshadowing for Volo at the end of PLA. Giovanni appearing at the end of the Sinnoh story and contemplating about allies is what leads to the Johto villain arc with the Rocket admins.

Hoenn is okay, I mostly liked seeing Maxie and Archie resolve things as character development that carries forward.
Unova is eh, the Unova Legendary Event was far better, and the Unova Arc Suit story was too
Kalos is an actual waste of time where the drama relies on whether or not anything happened (spoilers: it didn't)
I hardly remember Alola, something about disgruntled Aether Foundation employees being evil and some Faba jokes.
Galar is okay, the most interesting aspect is that the characters actually seem to observe that they're from alternate universes from one another for the first time, but they don't go far with it.
School shooter Paulo is kind of cliche, whatever. Felt totally pointless in the end, Giovanni just decides he'll continue scheming. PML ending with the "We're going to hold ANOTHER tournament!" was also lame, obviously nobody playing cared because they never went through with it. Team Break was also a letdown, felt very low effort.
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>>58208124
i see, thanks for the summary anon. i'm about to start the Unova arc and was hopeful it'd be interesting with Ghetsis and N, but i'll try manage my expectations from here.
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>>58208092
>minus Galar which doesn't have a Champion Stadium
wtf leonbros... we didn't make the cut...

thanks for all the help
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>>58208139
The Paulo stories were also released one at a time with each region, so there's that. I don't remember them feeling connected to the story, but I haven't revisited any of them.
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What if hypothetically you ran out of tower floors you can realistically beat
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>>58208278
Then it's hypothetically over....
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>>58208278
Would unironically need to start heavily optimizing what you have or paypigging
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Lets goooooooo, now I can get Melony on the variety select without regrets.
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>>58208299
There aren't a lot of teams that can beat floor 30 without being heavily optimized. Some late floors are literally impossible without having a specific character. You can't beat the final non-physical floor of the Ground tower without Rika.
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I finally beat every ultimate battle. Even at 1/5 Anni Gloria is such a useful support. Having to pity her feels worth it.
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>>58208477
that's so gay anon, congrats
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>>58208477
I did most of them within the past couple of months as a returning player and I got all 3 anni pairs but I still struggle with the ones that fuck with your accuracy
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Well looking at the variety slop trio there's a few more that are fair game
>Brendan, May and Wally with Regirock, Regice and Registeel
>Dawn, Lucas and Barry with Mesprit, Uxie and Azelf or I guess Azelf, Mesprit and Uxie if you want to go by the actual lakes they were sent to protect
>Rosa, Nate and Hugh with Virizion, Terrakion and Cobalion
>Galar and Johto already got the TCG collab ones
That's pretty much it
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>>58208708
The possible sinnoh one looks like dogshit because they're all Psychic, at least Regis or Swords of Justice have a different enough typing to have some use as possible EX WTZ setters like the BW1/Forces of Nature variety.
Sinnoh also has the Mix pairs so I think it's fair to not use it.
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>>58208753
Well unless tera is fair game on variety slop. They could easily be different roles too. It's just having them as throwaway variety units isn't as gay as if they made this a full on neo champion event.

As for mix pairs no one has any clue what's next after Barry. Maybe Alola because it's a trio of secondary types that haven't been used yet. Though I guess of course they could just force tera on starters without unique typing.
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>>58208477
Congrats on gaining less than one multi's worth of gems by paying 36.6k of them!
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>>58208807
Right, Tera exists. Even with a whole event about it, it didn't settle with me yet.
If the option for the lake trio is Varieties or NCs then I agree that I'd rather have them as varieties (but hopefully neither).
Mix slop is probably Alola next, there's no point in tacking Terastal on a starter trio for that when there's one that fits it already.
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>>58208828
Might as well speculate on the whole thing.
>fire: Charizard
>water: Blastoise
>grass: Venusaur
>ground: Torterra
>steel: Empoleon
>fighting: Infernape
6 down 12 to go.
>ghost: Hau & Decidueye
>dark: Elio & Incineroar
>fairy: Selene & Primarina
The rest are when it gets into fanfiction shit.
>tera flying: Brendan & Blaziken
>tera dragon: May & Sceptile
>tera electric: Rosa & Emboar
>tera bug: Nate & Samurott
>tera normal: Gloria & Rillaboom
>tera ice: Victor & Inteleon
These next ones are a problem and a huge stretch.
>tera psychic: Kris & Meganium
>tera rock: Calem & Chesnaught
>tera poison: Shauna & Greninja
Not that it would it matter much but I picked Tera types based on those Mighty raids in the main games so they do have some basis. And I tried to avoid the starters the characters already use like the Mix scouts tend to do.
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Bros I haven't realized level up material stages fucking suck. 100 stamina wasted away
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>>58209166
not a waste if you've done the event already
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>Finally unlock champion stadium master mode
>"Ok Im ready for some difficult fights-"
>You have to choose your own nodes to increase the difficulty
Ok whats the strategy here? The only fight that I beat with 3k points was the fighting one by pure brute force, after that all I could get was 5k points max
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>>58209455
Usually most people (for on typing that is) go for hp buffs, increased damage to supports, special/physical attack shields and power reduction (depending on what your main attack does), reduced gauge, reduced trainer move uses, and things like no status effects
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>>58209493
Another option is going max def and hp buffs and stalling with bad poison. Janine is great for that, as she can self-heal, evade, and debuff all opponents.

Gradual healing is a good option for ones that you are just trying to hit as hard and quick as possible. You'd avoid hp and def buffs and buff their offenses instead. Power Up On Hit is also useful here, but it can quickly snowball you if you don't have enough power.

Turn off field effects if not using them. Only use them when they are necessary (some have a ton of buffs with weather that need cleared) or they can multiplier you to hit hard enough.

I generally have my four defaults as
>opponent gets def buffs
>opponent gets offense buffs
>offtype
>poison
And I always tweak them a bit to match what I have and what I'm facing.

Also also, notice that you can turn up the damage for Strike / Tech / Support. Always do that for roles not on your team. Field and Sprint do not have that, so including them is like them being free. EX Roles do not count for this (Strike EX roll will not take more damage when Strike Pairs x3 Damage is turned on)
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I use this as my baseline. My strat is kill them before they kill you.
I only do minor changes depending on my team.
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>>58209627
>this on sinnoh
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>>58209627
This is a lot like mine. Just kill them before they sync
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>>58209493
>>58209548
>>58209627
Thanks gonna try this next week, I truly don't have any answer for the water fight right now
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>>58209716
I've been using this for months now so i've definately done it and i don't remember having any issue getting 15k recently
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>>58209761
Post mons, maybe we can help.
> Please filter by 5/6*
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Chart is here ! Like last year the highest new anni pair is the Support one. Gloria and Cinderace (Tera) take the crown !

Side notes :
- Anni Irida start at 11 and Red start at 8. Unlike last year the anni pairs are very close (last year it was Steven at 20,Cynthia at 9 and Lance at 4).
-The normal BP freebies are at 2/1 like last year however Thorton and Buzzwole did worse than Morgan and Raikou (1/0 vs 7/1). Same for the Paldean Starters against Lillie (2/2/1 vs 15) and Mix Barry against Leaf (0 vs 1)
-I am not talking about all the new 6EX because they are a lot of them. But I also want to say that I used the occasion to add/remove some 6EX pairs with some pairs that are almost always here.

Next week first Rank :
Carmine and Swadloon
Hilbert and Thundurus-I
Hilda and Tornadus-I
N and Landorus-I


And that's all ! As always you still can post your clear ! See you next week !
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>>58209802
My boy Oak up there with Chuck. It's all i ever wanted for him.
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>>58208828
We already have a Dark Incineroar, it would be a Fire Incineroar that would be different, but considering Mix pairs are all WTZ and Fire is already taken, Dark feels like the only option. Really a missed opportunity to make a Flying Charizard, Poison Venusaur, and Fire Incineroar. Then they could make a Grass whatever and Psychic Delphox, but that still leaves the last Water starter up in the air
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>>58209787
Here you go, like I said I can beat the fighting stage with 3k but the others are pretty rough.
I don't have much for types like water, so I don't know what to do there
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>>58209839
Yeah but Masked Royale and Incineroar were introduced years before Mix scouts, and the time getting a starter with their secondary type as the sync was fresh, so I don't think this problem was foreseeable back then.
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>>58209867
Your Nemona & Duck?
Or just off type with CynCyn
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>>58209802
Whoria won
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>>58209867
You have some really solid damage dealers, you can probably offtype water and fighting easily.
Use a variation of this >>58209627
> Replace Standard Damage Reduction 8 with Max HP Up 6
> Swap up Physical/Special Damage Reduction based on your team.
>if your support is big on the healing switch on Ally HP Down at Start 5 and switch off Ally Healing Down 5. And spend the additional 100 points wherever you like

Additionally
>If using Arc Cynthia. Switch on Strike x3 damage and turn off Interference immunity
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>>58209991
Throw Florian/Cynthia with any support and a utility/second support and just fuck them up as quickly as you can.
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>>58209867
For Bruno, you might just be able to rely on bad poison cheesing.
Story
>Koga & Crobat (Poison Fang)
Battle Point voucher exchange
>Erika & Tangela (Toxic)
>Janine & Crobat (Poison Fang)
Trainer Lodge exchange
>Gladion & Golbat (Poison Fang)
Egg pairs
>Main Character & Ekans > Arbok (Tech) (Poison Fang)
>Main Character & Zubat > Golbat (Tech) (Poison Fang)
>Main Character & Tentacool > Tentacruel (Tech) (Toxic)
4* general gacha
>Lucy & Seviper (Poison Fang)
5* general gacha
>Drasna & Dragalge (Toxic)
Variety Scout
>Ariana & Arbok (Poison Fang)
>Plumeria & Gengar (Toxic)
>Hilbert & Glaceon (Toxic)
Seasonal
>Victor (Palentine's 2024) & Greedent (Hyper Belch)
Poké Fair
>Sygna Suit Leaf & Venusaur (Venomous 4) - 50% of leaving target badly poisoned with moves + (Venomous 2)
>Emma & Crobat (Poison Fang)
>Oleana & Garbodor (Ally Poisons: Badly Poisoned) - turns all regular poison from allies into bad poison
>Sygna Suit Roxie & Toxtricity (Amped) (Venomous Sync 9) - badly poisons all opponents after sync
>Atticus & Revavroom (Crafty Poisonous Smog)
EX Master Fair
>Irida (Anniversary 2025) & Typhlosion (Hisuian Form) (Amethyst Tera Blast)

Combine it with a bulky support to last it out and Janine & Ariados, who can use Venom Drench to reduce their offensive stats. Other Venom Drench options are Main Character & Nidoran-F/Nidorina/Nidoqueen (Tech) and Oleana & Garbodor
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>>58209991
>>58210009
Gonna try this strategies once I come back and then tell you guys my results.
Also 140 is enough for getting 15k points right?
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>>58210024
Yeah, level cap increase is only a recent thing. People were doing this before that.
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>Still no Valerie alt
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>>58210024
Remember, do bad poison cheesing on round 2, that's when he'll really suffer. Consider waiting on using Irida for the final battle with Gloria where you can set bad poison cheese again. Just max out opponent bulk (defenses, HP) and minimize your damage.
You have Kieran who might be able to beat Lorelei without Juliana. Consider round 4 for infinite Fighting Zone and sun
Red for Lance, but you'd want to be very careful with a Dragon Zone unless you have a good support since Lance can use it to his advantage. If you don't need Gloria for the final battle, she might make a better support here.
Agatha you can kind of unga bunga with Arc Cynthia, you just need a support.
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>>58210064
Nah final battle he has Selene and Nihelego and Anni gloria + any shitmon for an easy victory.
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>>58210024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ6r_izId0Q Here anon i made this for you. You got this.
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>>58210109
Yeah, but if he has two opportunities for poison cheese and one of those is the final battle, he should consider saving great supports for other stages, even if they would be on-type. If your characters are good enough to do off-type consistently and you don't have great type coverage for every type (ie. he's really lacking in Ghost and isn't going to have a pure Ghost team that can do 3000 points), you should save your best off-type pairs for the ones you struggle with most.
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>>58210143
I will take your word for it, I've never even tried poison cheese strat
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>>58210024
Was just rechecking your list, if you have level up manuals you can level up Iono + raging bolt and Elesa + Rotom to run with florian
Elesa will be your tank and gives sync accelration
Iono gives EX electric terrain
That should give you the brute force you need with Florian.
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>finally claw up to water tower 30
>eventually check the recommendation tab for ideas since Lyra's obviously giving Kris hell
>a whopping three teams on the list
It's that bad huh
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Ok I guys I'm back home, I'm this anon>>58210024
Gonna try all to beat this master mode right now if I get stuck I'll come back
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>>58210274
Tina is rooting for you.
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>>58210338
YES I BEAT THE ELITE FOUR WITH 3K POINTS EACH!!!! THANKS GUYS!!!
Now I need to beat the champion, sadly I had to use Irida against Agata, so its gonna be Gloria, Selena and idk which other unit to bring
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>>58204829
How does it work? I don't think that's how crystals work on clothing.
Could've have a pretty rhinestone dress instead of this copypasta triangle pattern, just saying.
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>>58210376
Diantha and Diancie for field support or Elio and Stakataka if you need extra support
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>>58210376
Remember to swap Max hp up 6 with Standard damage reduction 8 if you're on type.
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>>58209991
>>58210009
>>58210043
>>58210064
>>58210114
>>58210178
>>58210393
>>58210399
YES I ACTUALLY DID IT!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH ANONS!!!
Without your help I'd be stuck in this forever, thank you!
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>>58210413
Your round 3 is different on the 2 slides, did you mix up the screenshots?
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LOOK
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>>58210445
eww
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>>58210426
Lmao yeah I scrolled too far
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>>58210491
Congrats anon!
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>>58210445
they reuse some bits of her og outfit but still won't release it...
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>>58210445
Big boots are so fucking hot.
Footfags need not apply.
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>>58210491
GG ! Since I already posted this week chart I'll add your clear for the September chart at the end of the month.
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>>58210513
Lillie is a big girl she can dress herself
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Eww, seriously contemplating deleting my account now...
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>>58211124
you take that back!
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>>58211124
I just tried testing sync for you
>Ghost-weak Uxie
>-6 Def/Sp. Def
>3* Ghost Gear (level 15)
>Level 150 Lillie
>Alola Circle (Special) with two Alolan characters for +30% sync move damage
>Paired with Selene (Champion) for Ghost Sprint, Ghost Strike, Alola Sprint, and Alola Strike (+64 Sp. Atk)
>5/5
>6EX Strike
>Tech EX role
>Supereffective Up
>Level 10 sync/physical/special moves
>+6 Atk/Sp. Atk/Def/Sp. Def/Spd
>Sync buff +3 from Giovanni and Selene
>Ghost Zone
>Sp. Atk +5
>Sp. Atk +5
>Sp. Atk +5
>Sp. Atk +10
>Shining Hope Moongeist Beam: Power +25
>Shining Hope Moongeist Beam: Power +25
>Super Powered 9 (Powers up the users moves and sync move that are super effective.)
>Doubled Down 2 (Powers up the user's sync moves that are super effective)
>Brain Sync 3 (Powers up the user's sync move when its Sp. Atk is raised.)
>Soften Up 1 (Critical hits land more easily when the user attacks with a sync move.)

Sp. Atk (480 + 60 + 25 + 64 = 629)
Shining Hope Moongeist Beam (Power: EX450 + 50 = 500 AOE)

Pretty disappointing for what I got, even if I could hit AOE.
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I managed to roll Irida after 27k gems. I don't have many gems left, should I go to pity and get a second copy/Atticus or should I try for Red/save for Volo/a later pair.
Also, it seems like SS Brendan was a really poor inclusion for Red's banner. The s.def drops/boosts are useless for Charizard. Who would have been a better dragon pair to add?
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>>58211319
Also forgot I had Critical Strike 2 as my Lucky Skill

Here's when fully investing in Moongeist Beam (same battle conditions)
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>>58211364
And grid
I couldn't get Healthy Power-Up 1 or Sp. Atk +10 to fit, dunno what it would be worth sacrificing
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>>58211349
>Who would have been a better dragon pair to add?
Unironically change SS Leon to Leon Alt instead of changing SS Brendan
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>>58211349
Well that's the thing Latios is like the only limited Dragon support that is not a seasonal. It was (and still is) the default choice
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>>58211364
Oh yeah, I should say I tried using Selene's buddy move right after this and it did 705k, utterly mogged Lillie, but nearly 300k in one hit is nothing to sneeze at.
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Any ideas for the October set of pairs?
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>>58212136
Halloween seasonals
The only ghost specialists left without a seasonal are Agatha and Fantina so it could be one of them
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>>58212136
Besides the Halloween alts probably Neo Champions or some kind of random Pokefairs. I don't think we're doing arc suits since Volo is a main story update.
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That was easy lol
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>>58212173
No N but got Hilbert and hilda to 2/5 with the next 2 multis so it's something
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N
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>>58211415
Samson seems like a better fit.
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>Back when SS Hilda/Hilbert/N were on a banner I wanted the former two and got 2/5 N first
>Want Variety Hilda and maybe Hilbert on this banner
>Get 3/5 N first
Make this guy go away please. Got Hilda not soon after though, so not that bad.

Anyway, can I just mention that I absolutely HATE the trainer buff moves that let you select any ally as a target instead of just defaulting to self?
Its a pain in the butt sometimes to input them properly on turn 1 and I can barely think of any situations those sync pairs would want to target an ally for the buff instead
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>>58212136
Sinnoh Neo Champions are coming up, but I wouldn't expect to see them until the December update.
March update (mid-anniversary)
>2021: Leon
>2022: Sygna Suit Serena
>2023: Marnie (Champion), Hop (Champion), Bede (Champion)
>2024: Geeta, Silver (Champion)
>2025: May (Champion), Brendan (Champion), Arc Suit N
June updates (original pre-anniversary bait)
>2021: Maxie, Archie
>2022: Sygna Suit Ethan, Sygna Suit Lyra, Sygna Suit Kris
>2023: Adaman, Irida
>2024: Cheren (Champion), Bianca (Champion)
>2025: Elio (Champion), Selene (Champion)
Anniversary/September updates
>2021: Lillie (Anniversary 2021), N (Anniversary 2021), Steven (Anniversary 2021)
>2022: Ash, Sygna Suit Cynthia (Aura), Sygna Suit Red (Thunderbolt)
>2023: Red (Champion), Leaf (Champion), Blue (Champion)
>2024: Arc Suit Cynthia, Arc Suit Steven, Arc Suit Lance, Sygna Suit Lear
>2025: Red (Anniversary 2025), Irida (Anniversary 2025), Gloria (Anniversary 2025), Volo (Alt.)
December updates
>2021: Sygna Suit Lusamine
>2022: Serena (Champion), Calem (Champion)
>2023: Nate (Champion)
>2024: Arc Suit Leon
January updates
>2022: Sygna Suit Cynthia (Renegade)
>2024: Rosa (Champion)
>2025: Sygna Suit Giovanni (Alt.)
February updates (pre mid-anniversary bait)
>2024: Sygna Suit Gladion
>2025: Juliana, Florian
August updates (double down on pre-anniversary bait)
>2024: Sygna Suit Nemona
>2025: Kieran
May update (no more rhyme or reason)
>2025: Arc Suit Alder
July update (triple down on pre-anniversary bait)
>2025: Arc Suit Silver, Arc Suit Ethan

2025 was the point where 1% pairs reached
>January - 1
>February - 2
>March - 3
>May - 1
>June - 2
>July - 2
>August - 1
>Anniversary - 4
For 16 before the year is even over. By comparison,
>2021: 7
>2022: 10
>2023: 9 (Rosa's a little iffy since she was released on Christmas and ties into the December stuff, but was part the January update)
>2024: 12
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LET'S GO!
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>legendary strong
>haha yeah
>let's battle
>end scene
>the end
That was it? No epilogue again. I don't know why I still get surprised by how quarter assed variety slop events are. This time it doesn't even come with missions. What were the tickets the social media was advertising? Those shitty scout tickets no one has any use for because they refuse to add general pool? That's not a selling point.
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>>58212298
Just roll for the slop and shut up.
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>>58212315
>NOOOO STOP CRITICIZING MY SLOP
If this is their big anniversary push for new players they better try harder than that
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>>58212356
I think they're giving up because the generosity is so laughably unbalanced and a waste of time that this game is legitimately impossible to recommend to anybody that don't have a character to sunk cost into. It's infinitely worse if you want a specific limited from the last two years too
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>>58212298
I think they just threw that in there to hint at Enamorus and Cogita coming next month or so
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>>58212387
I won't say it's not generous especially considering how the past few years were but it's also pretty underwhelming for some reason. Threads are pretty much as dead as they've always been. The generosity is just slightly underwhelming enough that no one has anything to say about it or are too fatigued to celebrate it.
>Pokefairs have effectively been downgraded sort of
>given away at random with lead up anniversary tickets
>EX master banners just section off 2% for Pokefairs 1% each for featured vs non featured
Neat. But it also feels like they should have realized this problem ages ago. Or there should be a more permanent overhaul type solution.
>anniversary tickets include the mix scout pool without the mix scouts
>if you get anything it's generosity or if you get ass raped by RNG like you probably will it's shit
Slightly less impossible to be surprised with one of the limited banners you skipped or missed. But like you said basically totally useless if you care about who you get. Basically the only units you will never be surprised by are 1% banner units. Even the oldest shittiest outdated ones.

The anniversary itself is pretty underwhelming too. The thing is no one was excited about the actual anniversary pairs before people found out about the potential new banner type. And even now the actual gameplay is pretty lame stories no one has anything to say about and the skip ticket grind. I just don't see what some new player drawn to this game from Kieran or whoever without any sunken cost would feel like sticking around for. Maybe they should have started with Volo boogaloo or something.
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>>58212467
>add Cogita
>not important or popular enough to be Pokefair but DeNA is also too greedy to make her general pool or some kind of story legendary freebie
>put her into variety jail with Samson Oak
>has the exact same recycled passives as the variety forces of nature trio already do
>gets to fit in with them as if she was always there just like Enamorus in general
I can see this happening
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>>58212238
Based, I was going to paypig on the tiered scout for 1 but N came home right away and he's my fave.
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>>58212485
Does that mean Volo will get a special costume just like Larry, or are we getting Cynthia dressed as Cogita for Halloween?
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>>58212480
To me, this anniversary feels particularly low effort after an insanely predatory year. EX Master Fairs are genuinely shocking to me because they are the ONLY new fair type that aren't more anti-consumer or a trade-off. Each year it gets worse, from Arc Fairs reselling you the same characters and starting to run in ADDITION to Master Fairs while having a steeper spark rate and now repeating types, superawakening not being feasible for non-whales no matter how dedicated they are, Academy performance being tied to RNG and having the promoted characters, Mix scouts being actual paid-only characters, Variety scouts having almost no effort 90% of the time, 5* general characters being so low priority that they don't get "unique" sync move animations anymore unless they're from Alola (which are shared between them, and not even with Ryuki based on a technicality) and only feel compelled to release them during anniversaries that are already squeezing you dry, etc.

I'm so tired of the sheer volume of extremely low effort "alts" that reuse a character model, voice lines, and have a generic syncs. Lodge pairs, Damage Challenge, Battle Points vouchers, a number of event freebies, mix scouts, and variety scouts are so tiring, but anything more is too premium.

Another Red and another Charizard, yay
Clever theme with the 006 / 006 / 006 Fire starters, whatever with Terastallizing, story isn't that interesting.
As greedy as Arc Suits are, I'm at least interested in where the story is going with Volo and certain characters, though it'll probably be a wet fart of an ending like a lot of the arc endings. 19 new pairs and only four of them aren't recycled models.

So yeah, EX Master Fairs are a nice idea. We got fucked so hard this year that I had just expected a continuous downward spiral, but I feel like this is DeNA saying "Hey, please don't stop playing, we'll throw you a morsel".
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>>58212526
You'll get 3 lines from her in a solo "event" story that ends before you even realize it started
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>>58212548
This is the first time a non arc suit alt recycles the same actual Pokémon as in the Pokémon itself and not the species on the same trainer again. That's the same Charizard from his sygna suit. Of course they justify it with the Tera gimmick but I'm not sure the Tera gimmick was met with anything but lukewarm oh wow it took them this long to add it. And I don't think people really understand the implications of the mechanic.

I don't even think EX master fair is replacing normal master fair banners. Seemingly arc suit banners will be the same. It's probably just a temporary relief type thing for anniversaries. I don't see why they'll suddenly stop spamming the usual 1% banners when they spent literally the whole year releasing at least one a month. They had no problem releasing Kieran as a normal cancer master fair banner days before releasing the "generous" banner type. It'll probably be business as usual later.

I think the EX banner feels underwhelming because I would rather they just overhauled the existing banners and just have old limited added to specific pool types. Just do away with the rerun cancer entirely. There's literally zero reason to roll on a dedicated Archie and Maxie banner unless you really like them or want the jukebox CD. Not too long ago they reran variety Team Skull and variety Factory Heads and no one is retarded enough to roll that so it's a waste to even bother rerunning those. I'd be fine even if they only updated pools on anniversaries to push FOMO sales. EX banners only feel like a band aid that only makes the Pokefair spam slightly less cancerous. Genuinely I don't think people would have been opposed to arc banners increasing the spark threshold if they included other old limited types. All those other existing banners you brought up still suck ass.
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More on Tera I don't think it's really sunk in for people that the actual Pokémon choice doesn't even pretend to matter anymore. Irida's Typhlosion doesn't remotely resemble what anything a Typhlosion does. Tera blast is a blank slate buddy move DeNA can make do anything. Typhlosion doesn't learn any poison moves at all so they forced hyper beam into one like they do all the time. Without them adding Hex for the sake of it you could replace her Typhlosion with any Pokémon that learns hyper beam. Hex doesn't matter either since it's a buddy move they could swap out for any other buddy move that will do the same thing. Buddy moves are only a suggestion and do whatever the devs want. The Pokémon choice in a Tera unit is only merely a suggestion. The moveset doesn't need any basis anymore. Virtually every Pokémon learns Tera Blast and Hyper Beam or Giga Impact.
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>>58212677
'Kay
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>>58212703
I'm glad you agree with me
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Hot Shillie
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>>58211349
> should I go to pity and get a second copy/Atticus or should I try for Red/save for Volo/a later pair.

You won't reach another pity so if I were you I'd either save or go to pity to either get Roxie, atticus or an irida copy if you get them both in last 3 multis
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>>58212173
Paypigging for variety...
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>>58212859
Lovellie!
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>>58211319
>>58211364
>>58211376
That's a lot of words to tell me she brings absolutely nothing to the table a different unit does better ON TOP of that different having the bonus of not being the worst plot device in the mainline games
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Invested in elesa coin after gettinf 2/5 hilbert genie
Used my 5 SA candies from bundles earlier this month
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>>58212657
>And I don't think people really understand the implications of the mechanic
Enlighten me
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Combine the story events

>Push Kieran back to the Anniversary banner to make an EX MF instead of the Jewish vanilla MF he was
>Remove Whoria from the line up we don't need Galar rep in 2025, no the "006" meme does not work when they didn't do this shit for Grass Starters year 3
>Lance should have Charizard instead of Red. Nobody's pulling for another fucking Red as much as they try to shill him
>Irida is whatever we do need a girl though they don't really have any other way to rep Hisui
>Make the story about Kieran coming to Pasio trying not to relapse into his incel shooter persona
>Blue, Oak and Lance can Kanto pander and try to calm Kieran down when he's not succeeding with the greats
>Irida is showing Juliana and Carmine her new T*phlosion
>Lear hosts an anniversary tournament and it pits Juliana and Kieran against each other
>Carmine still discovers how to Tera and turns out Irida's T*phlosion can too
>Kieran also discovers it to give him a little more credence to his talent and Lance picks up on it immediately by finally having a Dragon Charizard
>Tournament ends with Juliana raping Kieran again but he actually takes it in stride and is still convinced by Blue to ask to be Juliana's rival and she goes "I thought we already were?"
>Lear still gets mad at his Hoopa and Gholdengo being shitheads

Fixed your anniversary
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>>58213569
I want to squidge her belly.
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>>58213494
He clarifies in his next post.
Tera makes Pokémon choice irrelevant. Before, something like Incineroar would be Fire or Dark, and its moveset would be based around what those types tend to gravitate towards. Much like Grass-type Pokémon tend to benefit from sun support in addition to Grassy Terrain, you can get an idea for how well a Pokémon will do based on what its type is. New Fire-type? Well you have so many ways to get Fire rebuff, so many options for sun support. But let's say they release Ligma Balls Misty & Blastoise (Tera Type: Fire). It doesn't matter that it's Blastoise, it's going to play like something unlike Blastoise. It's going to burn, set sun or EX sun, Fire damage field, Fire Spin, Fire rebuff. It feels lazy, like the Pokémon doesn't matter, and when so many characters in this series are tied to a specific type or specific set of Pokémon, it gives them a niche.

There are good uses of alternative typing, like Sygna Suit Roxie & Toxtricity being Electric instead of Poison. It's a Pokémon that fits her extremely well thematically, and it has strong Poison support on top of its Electric type. You could do Roxie and a Fire-type Salazzle and it's a similar deal. Roxie and an Ice-type Muk is just retarded. Use an actual Ice-type Trainer in that case, give Glacia or Pryce something. This game is for people who like the human characters of Pokémon. Morty & Ho-Oh works because that was tied to him in the games, and people want to see the story that makes it happen. People don't want Roxie and her Tera Ice Muk or Tera Poison Lapras #4. There needs to be lines they don't cross.
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>>58213802
>It feels lazy, like the Pokémon doesn't matter,
Almost like Terra is a terrible gimmick just like every other gimmick they introduced



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