>>58207357
And funny enough all the "Chonkers" are unpopular unloved shitters compared to weavile lmfao

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>>58207357
What about the twinks?

>>58207364
the chonkers are all out classed in their niche while fast physical ice type is pretty much exclusively weavile.

>>58207480
Or in Electivire’s case his archetype is never good without any signature Electric moves (and even then, Togedemaru, Morpeko, and Pawmot are all still ass)

Iron Hands is the one and only exception