I hate him so much it's unreal. Unless they start retconning pokemon the franchise will never ever recover. It's that simple
>>58211263>Unless they start retconning pokemon The only shitmon that needs a retcon is fagonite
>>58211263no
>>58211263For once op is not a faggot
>>58211263>I LIKED LINOONE BEFORE GEN 8 I SWEAR!!!
>>58211309this but unironically
>>58211309pickup is unironically great and its sprite was very cuteI do prefer zigzagoon though
>>58211309Ayup, that there's me favourite Pokemon
>>58211266>Xe gets THIS steamed about orange barneyNice job GF, keep it up!
>>58211263It's an utterly bizarre turn making a badger/racoon dog creature into a homage to Kiss its like if Furret got a regional variant that just evolves into Hatsune Miku. I think it would have bothered less people if it was just a stand alone gnoll/Kiss pokemon
>>58211502>its like if Furret got a regional variant that just evolves into Hatsune Miku.Now that you say it out loud, that might be a good idea...
>>58211263
>>58211556if you had actually used that shitmon you pretend to love so much it would have gotten a mega or at the very least a cross gen evo. It getting a superior regional replacement is your own fault
>>58211309i liked it's cry in the overworld
>>58211263It's just so fucking bad, even if it was completely unrelated to the zigzagoon line
>>58211441 >T. Bellyturd
But Linoone still exists, it didn't get written out of existence. If part 1 is great and part 2 is shit, that doesn't negate part 1 being great (though "great" is a strong word for Linoone).
>>58211263you guys are fucking gay obstagoon is cool as hell
>>58212049>If you extend the frame of the Mona Lisa and add a turd next to it, it totally does not detract from the whole thing, it's the same painting but with optional extra content!
>>58212068>If nearly years later, Leonardo's friend draws a turd next to his own version of Mona Lisa, he has singlehandedly ruined the original Mona Lisa and we aren't allowed to enjoy it anymore I NEED Leonardo's friend to TELL ME that his drawing of Mona Lisa ISN'T CANON and he needs to APOLOGIZE>By the way, by "Mona Lisa", I mean a cartoon ferret from a children's commercial franchise that I continue to obsessively simp for 25 years after I first saw it because I'm autistic and the imprinting was too strong so I'm stuck mentally stimming over my childhood, sucking the remnants of dopamine I can still get from it and telling myself these withdrawals and the resulting emptiness are because they made a different version of this cartoon animal, and totally not because I've failed to launch as a 29 year old manchild and have no real meaningful accomplishments to speak of
>>58211556unironically kinda fun, reminds me of ground sloths
Mentally deranged schizos now pretend Obstagoon is a bad Pokemon just to shit on their favorite British boogeyman that has been living rent free in their heads for ages.
>>58212190Obstagoon gets worse the more you look at it
>>58212190Obstagoon isn't great and is one of many examples of Gen 8 desperately kneecapping its designs just to scream "WE ARE BRITISH" at you over and over. It'd be like if Unova had a Tom Cruise Pokemon and a cowboy Pokemon and a walking declaration of independence Pokemon and all of them were played completely straight.
>>58211556
>>58212322>Obstagoon isn't greatAnd Linoone's worse, a forgettable early route shitmon, to the point Game Freak decided to make it pull its weight again by giving it a fresh coat of paint.
hahaha obstaGOONget it
>>58212322kiss isn't even british
>>58212322You know Kiss isn't British right?
Obstatroon
>>58211309I had one in Omega Ruby as a MO slave. Kept him through the entire game and levelled him to 100. I like the lil weasel guy.
>>58212190I like Turner's designs but Obstagoon was a big miss
>>58211556>>58212656
>>58212322Does it offend you that much you faggot?
>>58211263I find funny Uri Geller sued Nintendo for supposedly making Kadabra based in his image and years later Pokemon outright made a Pokemon intentionally based in a real celebrity like Gene Simmons.
wait, were they going to call it obstacoon and then changed the c to a g? why?
>>58214243coon is a racial slur
>>58214243Goons are some british football super fan group or something. Like people in the US who get all painted up and tailgate football games
>>58211263Always felt zangoose should've been linoone's evolution right off the bat, obviously changing some details to match.
>>58211263Turner designed like 20 pokemon you stupid faggot
>>58211263Gnolls are cool though
>>58211309I did, slick and simple design, and the extreme-speed + belly drum set was funwhat are you doing on this board ?
obstagooner
Obstagoon is one of the most awful designs I've ever seen. I don't understand how this thing even made it off the pencil nevermind through all the QC it has to go through.
>>58214650Turner designed Obstagoon himself and he was the art director of gen 8, there was no QC in his way
>>58214276coon just means raccoon lmao
>>58214702Sugi was Supervisor of the entire concept art department, you deranged little quim faggot. There WAS QC in his way. But QC agreed the hoenn early route shitmon needed a glow-up and clearly loved the idea of a European badger flavoured version.
its hard to come up with good ideas part of the problem is i think glam rock is terrible and the reference makes me irrationally angry
>>58214735Are you 12?
>>58214291That's casuals (because they don't wear club colours, but dress in casual clothes as they look to avoid both opposition fan attention until planned meeting spots OR police attention). Goon is just any kind of meathead-0for-hire the nastier element of society use as protection for varying things.
>>58214735alright, if you're so confident why don't you say it to a black person and see if you don't get your shit rocked? a little cultural awareness goes a long way brother.
>>58215006>why don't you just go walk up to a random nigger and start talking about raccoons?I'd get "my shit rocked" either way doofus
>>58211263Tied with Rhyperior and Calyrex as the worst pokemon designs of all time
>>58215006>Say it to my face and I'd kill you
>>58211263The ones who complain about furfags the most are probably closeted
>>58214749>its hard to come up with good ideasit really is not...
>>58215259furfag here there are no skeletons in my closet only badgers
>>58215259The problem is with obstagoon lies far from it being furfaggotry
>>58211263https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a74VgkqvU4snah obstagoon is cool, i can totally see this dude in orre
>>58211263>Zigzagoon was originally a Galar pokemon!That is the shit I hate. No the fuck its not Turner. Dont ruin a beloved pokemon to make your OC shitmon seem more special.
>>58213571
>>58216539uh oh tds detected
>A badger known for thieving evolves into a dickass barbarian gnoll who cuts out the middleman and blocks you from your own lootDo people just not like fun
They only make designs for furfags now, for tpc and gf quadrupeds are flops
So how long will it take for you faggots to stop seething over a man who left the company in 2022 and will no longer hold influence on character design going forward?
>>58216648Poketurds are retards, ken sugimori started that shit in gen 3 with blaziken he saw digimon was a success and copied it same with renamon and lucario
>>58216639It's just ugly.
>>58212322I want a cowboy Pokémon now. If we ever get a gen 5 remake and they bring in regional variants, I want that variant to be a cowboy.
>>58216652>digimon>a success anon, i...
>>58211263Pokémon switching to 3D in general was a bad move because it enabled the designers’ worst habits>add a bunch of superfluous details within the pokemon’s silhouette, cluttering the design without adding anything to readability>add a bunch of overly complicated limbs or appendages because it doesn’t need to be easy to animate with pixels>less focus on color palette to imply what texture a pokemon has because now you can just import a texture over top of whatever garish palette you chose
>>58211556>>58213563These designs actually aren't terrible because they look a bit less human-like. Maybe its the proportions.
>>58216888I remember being very upset that they promised they'd continue making the pokemon games be sprite-based right before revealingbx and y.
>>58215302ok, you come up with 1000 good ideas for monsters and make your own game they better all be bangers and original
>>58211263>Designs one of the best Pokemon in you're pathwtf I love James Turner now?
>>58211441Gen 1 Dragonite actually looks like a monster. Gen 2 onwards made him fat orange Barney.
>>58211263Hoennfags have no right to complain about anthroshit, yes, that started in G1 (Hypno, Alakazam) but it was in Hoenn where we reached a point of no return.
>>58217615never liked blaziken, always hated gardevoirI'll take the funny zigzagging raccoon and arrow badger thanks
>>58211263Just admit that you're jealous and want your own Mujina
>>58217592>Gen 2 onwardsYou mean "immediately after they started making actual artwork for the Pokemon, AKA right around the time of Red and Green, therefore this was basically always the intention from the very beginning and your tunnel vision of 'Cool Dragonite' was based exclusively on sprites because you never actually cared enough to see what the Pokemon actually look like?"
>>58211263I actually like obstagoon but maybe i'm in the minority. That said SwSh is filled with shit decisions and the game would be irredeemable if not for the dlc.
>>58217959the sprites matter more
>>58218612Cool, so where's the merchandise based on the badass Dragonite sprite?
>>58216765>Pokemainia was on a decline in the early 2000s prior to Gen 3’s development >Digimon was deemed as the “cooler” franchise at the time Correct
>>58211309I like Hoenn Zigzagoon! I like Galarian Linoone better then Hoenn Linoone because being black and white makes it more Badgery. honestly im just in the "Yay, now i can use two of the mon i like in different types/builds!" camp when it comes to Regional Variants though.I like Obstagoon out of Ludo too cause the Quad-Fighting Weakness REALLY baits the AI into Obstruct in SwSh (Because A LOT of fighting moves in their movelists are Contact) and then it can follow up with a STAB Double Edge or Night Slash/Throat Chop to wipe their sharply debuffed ass while taking no damage. Its a fun meme to do and it feels nicer to use in the Campaign then Spiky Shield did in XY at least.
