i have never heard of them

>>58211790
Because the eceleb behind them is an egotistical fucktard who acts like he's God's Gift to us lowly humans and he's doing us a huge solid by "fixing" those childhood classics.

>>58211790
Romhacks in general don't appeal to me.

>>58211804
They don't -need- fixing, but they're very flawed games.

>>58211804
smith is super humble what're you on about

>>58211804
You just sound like a butthurt faggot who refuses to admit that his childhood favorites aren't God's Gift to us lowly humans.
Imagine thinking Gen 1 isn't broken shite lol.

>>58211833
>you know your favorite games from your childhood? yeah, they're kinda bad... but you know who can fix them and make them as good as you remember? *I* can.
Yeah, "humble."

>>58211900
They're his childhood games too and he's looking at them critically because he loves them and wants them to be the best version of themselves

If you describe your romhack as "perfect" and "fixed gen [x]" then I'm going to disregard you and your romhacks as narcissist self-wankery.

I enjoyed them.

>>58211928
It's just marketing

>>58211953
It's not effective marketing if it actively turns the potential consumer away from the product.

>>58211804
The fact that they’re made by a supposed eceleb automatically makes them dogshit by association.
Not to mention he doesn’t change enough things for them to even be worth playing. For example, if you’re going to buff shitmons, actually buff all the shitmons meaningfully instead of just your favorites.

>removed catch requirement for exp all
>no 1/256 miss chance anymore
>pikachu receives larger badge boost (this would be considered a glitch that needs to be fixed if it was in the games originally)
>type chart changes
>rare candies and TMs in shops
This shit is ass

>>58211920
The problem is when someone acts like their own headcannonis the best version of that could possibly exist

>>58211994
>type chart changes
I’m immediately out. I hate when romhacks do this. Say what you will about the current state of GameFreak, but the type chart is one thing that’s impeccable. There is absolutely zero reason to fuck with it.

>>58211994
you can't even buy the overpowered TMs until you beat the E4. what's the issue?

>>58212030
It's really good but I wouldn't say impeccable.
Ice type needs 2 resists added to its chart but that's my only complaint.

>>58211994
>removed annoyance for quality of life
>Bug fix because gen 1 combat engine is trash. You like missing a 100% move?
>because no light ball in gen 1
>can't remember the type chart changes but if it makes gen 1 closer to 2 and 3 that's fine, needs more info to attempt to defend, otherwise yeah this is bad
>Newer official games have TMs work like HMs, QOL change not bad. Having a move as a one only TM is both good and bad game design depending on what you are looking for. I prefer having move options though. If rare candies are expensive, removing grinding at the expense of money is an okay trade off. If the only change you make is adding them to the shop, gen 1 prices them at 4900 IIRC.

>>58212098
>replying to every point
Didn't read, hack is still ass

>>58211804
This.
Even if I would be interested in playing these hacks, I'm just not gonna give my time and attention to some eceleb with overbloated ego.

>>58212098
>having to catch pokemon is an annoyance

>>58211804
>>58212144
Speaking of ego
>Official tier list of all available Pokémon in a playthrough of Yellow Legacy, as agreed upon by the development team and Smith.

>>58212171
What's wrong with that?

>>58211790
>hmmm this looks interesting let’s see what they’re changi-
>>>>>>>physical/special split
No thanks.

>>58211790
the only thing wrong with pokemon yellow is limited bag space and the sprites. unless you fix that, then theres nothing needed to be "fixed". crystal and emerald are good with no obviousl fixes unless you really want to nitpick.

>>58212188
If you can't tell you won't get it.

>>58212195
You're retarded. None of the Legacy games added the physical/special split.

>>58211994
What are the type changes? Poison only needeth beat water, but what autism happened to psychic?

>>58211833
>special thanks to thesmithplays for his leadership and vision
Humble!

>>58212263
Do you know how hard it is to make a hack with the quality of the Legacy series?

>>58212310
Yeah, not very.

>>58212334
You enjoy talking out your ass, huh?

>>58212310
>>58212429
Narcissists get owned every day here. You're better off rallying worshippers on any combination of Reddit, Discord, and Smogon.

>>58212437
Is "owned" in the room with us right now?

>>58211790
We already have hundred of those low effort hacks that just edit the wild encounters and trainer teams, anyone can make them. The Pokemon rom hacking scene is as bad as the mainline games, nobody tries to make original games anymore, its just shitty "difficulty" hacks or muh fixes muh QoL. There is nothing to fix in these games, tries making your own instead.

>>58212446
You'd understand once you get an idea how threads flow around here. Anyways, good luck.

I'm glad people are clicking that they're nothing more than run-of-the-mill if not mediocre difficulty hacks.

>>58212512
only on veepee, everywhere else they're seen as the gold standard for rom hacks

>>58211790
>You see these games from your childhood?
>Yeah, they're actually terrible.
>What they need is casualization from the modern games and random legendaries!
>I'M MAKING THESE GAMES PERFECT IF YOU DISAGREE YOU'RE A FAG

>>58212195
i will now play your romhack

>>58212682
>Yeah, they're actually terrible.
They are terrible. Just because you grew up playing them doesn't mean they're good.
>>What they need is casualization
You haven't played any of them. They're literally 10x harder than their vanilla counterparts, even on normal difficulty.
>random legendaries
You mean event legendaries that are no longer obtainable without cheating?
>IF YOU DISAGREE YOU'RE A FAG
Smith has never insulted anyone who doesn't care for his hacks.

>>58211790
Are these the ones where certain pokemon get nerfs?

>QoL bad I actually like struggling

>>58213616
Where is the line drawn between QOL and casualization?

Raise your hand if you have actually played one of these mods

>>58213581
See
>>58212437

>>58213655
The Legacy games feature no casualization.
>>58213684
Not an argument.

>>58213692
That was not my question.

>>58213697
Tripling bag space is QoL. Nature Mints and no poison damage outside of battle are casualization.

>>58213692
>The Legacy games feature no casualization.
Being able to purchase rare candies is casualization. Not even in SV, the easiest game to build a competitive mon by far, can you outright buy any kind of EXP candy. It all must be earned or scavenged.

>>58213707
Thank you for your answer.
I disagree that increasing bag space is not casualization. A player should be required to carefully pick their items before going out onto a route. Conversely, I would say that increased PC item storage is not casualization.

>>58212429
What's hard about making any of the changes he told someone else to make? Did he disassemble the game? Did he add in anything that other hacks don't? You're such a fag.

>>58213710
You can't purchase Rare Candies.
>>58213713
No routes or "dungeons" in Pokemon are difficult enough or difficult at all, honestly[/spoiler] to make resource management compelling. All it boils down to is tossing a Super Potion or your Razor Wind TM so you can pick up a Carbos.
>>58213749
Difficulty balance is actually incredibly difficult to get right.

>>58211790
Guy's insufferable and often fails to understand there was a reason behind the majority of decisions in the older gens (where the philosophy were Pokemon were hard locked into classic RPG roles as opposed to just jacks of all trades with a vague leaning to those roles they are these days)

>>58213765
>All it boils down to is tossing a Super Potion or your Razor Wind TM so you can pick up a Carbos.
And that's more thought than what a functionally infinite bag gives you.

>>58213765
>Difficulty balance is actually incredibly difficult to get right.
lmao

>look at the move changes
>surely a hack with a genius lead and 15 actual coders will have some interesting changes
>literally every move is just buffed in accuracy and power
More like TheSmithGays

>>58213783
Yes, the thought of "which of these useless items is slightly more useless."
Early Dragon Quest did resource management right. Gen 1 didn't, and Yellow Legacy is harder than its vanilla counterpart by a country mile.
>>58213790
Pipe down, mouth-breather.
>>58213804
>nerfed Dig
>nerfed Blizzard
>b-but Rock Throw now has 90 accuracy instead of 65 a bloo bloo bloo :-(

>>58213804
Can you give me an example? I haven't played the roms personally because a fucking YouTuber is heading their development. Are there any other notable changes?

I 100%’d yellow legacy and I hated almost everything about some of the dumb esoteric changes he made. “The game doesn’t want you to have Raichu so I’m gonna make it a 1% encounter that you can’t repel for as the only way to get it before the post game” “Pikachu can learn all the HMs but Raichu can’t. Ignore that Surge’s Raichu has surf.” “I’m going to make the most non linear games in the series incredibly linear with level caps. Also you can tackle the middle gyms in any order to see different teams but because of level caps you won’t actually be able to see them.” “I’m going to change some pokemon stats because I don’t know game design, no I won’t put in the physical special split I’ll just make Hitmonchan a special attacker with no real special attacks.” “The go to bug move is going to be twin needle even though it doesn’t make sense for a Pokemon like Scyther to even use it”

>>58211790
Because they're shit, simple as.

>>58213841
>mass replying
Yeah I'm thinking only autists think this hack is good.

>>58213841
>Yellow Legacy is harder than its vanilla counterpart by a country mile.
They're both effortless to beat. If you think this fags hack is any harder than the original games you might have a learning disability.

>>58213933
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's one of the devs running damage control

>>58211790
Play my hack PureRGB instead. Half of these gen 1 hacks copied and pasted code that I wrote anyway. Shinpokered is the other one with a really smart dev, I actually got features like 60fps mode from the creator of that hack.

>>58211790
>Look what I made!
>Creator didn't make the hack, someone who actually understand programming did
>Creator just decided some data files that define pokemon stats and moves
YDMTR (You didn't make the romhack)

>>58211790
>"""""development team"""""
>check github
>code all written by 1 dev who isn't the youtuber, often code borrowed from other hacks
No making 2 sprites for a romhack doesn't make you a developer.

>>58212310
Not hard at all as it mostly copies content implemented in other romhacks

>>58213849
how does it not make sense for scyther, a pokemon with two massive scythes, to stab the opponent with two needle-like objects

>>58214015
>a scythe is needlelike

>>58214029
Not a stretch at all to stab someone with a scythe's tip man, dunno why you are so hung up on this. In fact I'd say pokemon like dodrio should get twineedle because it could stab the opponent with two beaks at once. That's a stretch, but also cool. Oh and sandslash should get it too for obvious reasons.

>>58214034
>just give it to anything that somewhat makes sense
Soulless fag

>>58214034
>everything should learn bodyslam
>everything should learn bite
>everything should learn tackle
>everything should learn roar
>everything should learn rest
>everything should learn focus punch

>>58214034
It's a fucking scythe, retard. They aren't made for stabbing, they're made for slashing.

>>58214052
Okay but Scyther's arms are the blade itself. Stabbing with his arms isn't cumbersome like trying to stab with an actual scythe.

>>58214052
they can easily do both, again, you seem overly hung up on this

>>58214049
Oh but Toxic and Double-Edge are fine, right?

>>58214042
>wahhhh my opponents have coverage moves in learnsets and now i get owned because they didnt spam only stab moves or normal type moves ever
every time

>>58214067
>Toxic
You mean the move they explicitly removed from 99% of Pokemon because they realized how fucking stupid it was?
>Double-Edge
You mean the move that virtually any species can do because it's literally just throwing their body at the opponent in a recklessly fierce manner, and it also makes sense to widely distribute because it's a move with high base power, unlike a shitmon move like Tackle?

>>58214076
I'm convinced it's just casuals and resellers seething over ROM hacks ITT.

>>58214067
>but what about
Doesn't change a single thing I've said.
>>58214076
>greentext coping
If you need to make things up to cry about maybe you just shouldn't talk.

SmithGays btfo, go back to your discord

>>58214086
>resellers
Go back to Youtubel

>>58214094
A hit dog hollers.

>>58214097
>admitting he's from youtube

>>58214109
Who are you quoting?

>>58214113
>still hollering this hard
kek

>>58214097
You came here to advertise and got laughed at. Take your L and go.

>>58211790
Boring, uncreative, homogenous, and brings nothing new or interesting.

>>58214119
Still have no idea who you're quoting.
>>58214128
Is this the cope you're going with? I came looking for honest criticism of these hacks, but all I got were the salty tears of seething manchildren. Your favorite childhood games kinda sucked, actually. Sorry you had to find out this way!

>>58214151
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you were this much of a newfag. I'm not quoting anyone. I'm implying that you are hollering (seething) after being hit (called a youtube faggot). Hope this helps!

>>58214146
Describes your contribution to the thread perfectly.

>>58214151
All the criticisms itt are honest. You just don't like them because they're criticizing your work.

>>58214159
>why all the hate
>gets answered
>reeeeeee
kek

If SmithPlays wasn't so ugly he'd be a lot more successful

>>58214158
Sorry lad, ROM hacks WILL decrease the value of those rotting pieces of plastic on your shelf and you'll have to find a different way to make bank.
>>58214166
None of the criticism posted ITT is valid.

>>58214178
SmithPlays is actually incredibly handsome. And I hear his cock is HUGE.

>>58214180
If you had a job you wouldn't be so obsessed with these made up resellers. What even makes a criticism valid? We all know you're too stupid to answer and will just deflect but whatever.

>>58214151
Is that the cope YOU'RE going with? Improvement hacks come out every fucking day and they're all the same. You didn't do anything groundbreaking or remotely interesting. Hell, you didn't do anything at all. Yet you still want /vp/ of all places to kiss your ass like you're some kind of romhacking Jesus. Fuck off.

>not a single person saying what they actually like about the hacks
kek

>>58214159
And it only took me by myself instead of a team of 15 guys editing a game that someone else disassembled.

>>58213981
>PureRGB
An example of an actually good hack that’s actually worth your time

>>58214237
It sucks even worse than Yellow Legacy

>>58213616
Suffering builds character

>>58211790
Why didnt he fix the problem with headbutt trees

>>58214294
It's not a very good romhack is why. It's more like a community project for a YouTuber than an actual hack.

>>58211790
>>58211800
>hacks brand/niche is being faithful to the original games, just improved
>makes a bunch of fanfic changes to pokemon stats/moves

Can't stand this shit

>>58214459 (me)
SmithPlays fucked my mom BTW.

>>58214465
Yeah man Hitmonchan having absolute bottom of the barrel Special totally makes sense when his whole gimmick is being able to use the elemental punches.

>>58214489
>make Hitmonchan a bad special attacker
>it’s only special moves are the elemental punches
If Smith wasn’t sucking his own dick so much about no phys special split. He could of remedied that with only making those 3 attacks physical.

>>58214496
The physical/special split is garbage and so is any hack that adds it. Kys.

Once again, there is no money shilling here directly unless they are anons susceptible to ads, which you should unironically by at this point. Reddit and YouTube and Twitch are where they true sheep are.

>>58214496
physical special split is for zoomers who have an orgasm over gen 4 and competitive pokemon

in reality you can just give hitmonchan higher special stat if you want him to use elemental punches, or realize HE WASNT DESIGNED TO SPECIALIZE IN THOSE PUNCHES, MAGMAR, ELECTABUZZ, AND JYNX WERE, THEY'RE THE ELEMENTAL PUNCH TRIO

>>58214516
THEY'RE ALL HE LEARNS WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE SHOULDN'T SPECIALIZE IN THEM

>>58211790
Never heard of them

>>58211900
I think you're conflating "confidence" with "a lack of humility". Being humble doesn't mean you can't be confident in your ability to criticize or improve. Did he do or say something to indicate that he's arrogant?

>>58214539
he said my favorite pokemon game isn't perfect > : (

>>58214500
Tell me you didn’t read what I said without telling me

>>58214516
>these mons are the punching trio
>gives the elemental punches to everyone
>the punching pokemon doesn’t specialize in punches
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a worse argument

>>58214526
>THEY'RE ALL HE LEARNS
But they're not. He doesn't even get them until the mid-20s.

>>58214586
No one said that
What everyone said was that SmithPlays is a retarded shill who took credit for shit he didn't do and only managed to add to the massive landfill of Pokemon "improvement" patches instead of making something interesting

>>58214798
Talking about Gen 1, bozo. He learns 5 moves via level up, and the first three are the elemental punches.

>>58215238
He credited everyone on the team.
>only managed to add to the massive landfill of Pokemon "improvement" patches
Only you and a few others on this dying board think that. The rest of the internet views his hacks as the gold standard.

>>58211790
They're alright, but I still prefer a solid set of options toggled on a randomizer. Pretty good as far as romhacks go though.

>>58215760
Forgot to add, my biggest problem with them is how buggy they tend to be. It takes a long time for the kinks to be ironed out.

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>>58215748
Like I said earlier, the "Team" is one dev who made everything (spoiler: not the eceleb cunt) and some other people who did barely anything at all
look at the commit history on github

All the eceleb commits are him twiddling with stats and move data, not actually making a romhack, anyone with a romhacking.net pokemon red move editor tool can do that

>all of Smith's commits are him balancing the hack
>sperg thinks this isn't contributing to the hack in a meaningful way
Not everyone has Smith's brilliant mind for game balance. Without his vision, the Legacy series wouldn't even exist.

no. you didn't do anything if you just tweaked data files. moreover, you didn't make a romhack if you just followed tutorials to add features people already implemented. Implement your own ideas from scratch on your own or you didn't make anything, you just recreated an existing hack. Even worse is when you call yourself a developer, but you don't actually understand shit about the game's code. No, you're just a loser who is scared of creating your own ideas.

thanks for your understanding

here we go with "devs" and "game designers" who "made a romhack" (copied features from other ones wholesale and don't even understand what they're looking at)

>>58211790
Does anyone bother flashing these to physical carts? I really don’t like playing pokemon games on emulators but I’ve been wanting to try some romhacks lately.

>>58215789
anyone who understands the game's underlying code can easily modify the game to be balanced in 3948739487349 different ways. The idea of someone not understanding the code because they are too lazy/stupid to learn yet somehow being better at balancing than someone who does is complete fucking nonsense. Even spritework is a cinch for devs who can do assembly. Sprites in these games are tiny and quick to make. It doesn't take an artist with 10 years of experience to make them, anyone with any level of intelligence can.

I'm afraid the only reason eceleb guy is involved is for clout

These retards genuinely don't understand how important game balance is. Holy shit.
Sure, anyone can change how these games are balanced–but not everyone can balance them WELL. Smith doesn't just do it well, his mind for game balance is second to none. That's why his contributions are so invaluable.

Anyone who can code the game can balance the game. You don't understand. Most people making romhacks have no idea how to code, they just copy and paste tutorials or edit data files. This is why you have the false notion some "genius game designer" needs to guide devs.

Again, anyone who can actually create real new features in the code of these games because they actually understand the game's code can easily balance the game perfectly in 32w98479328749387493874987 different ways because such a task is extremely easier to do. The notion that devs who understand the code of a game on a deep level, being able to create parts of the game from the very lowest level, couldn't do something as simple as balancing their game is a retarded notion. In fact I'd wager that bad game balance in any game stems from those who are too stupid to understand the game on lower levels being in charge of the game's design.

There's no point arguing about game balance since zero games have ever achieved balance. Different levels of ability are what make things fun and interesting. Don't be mislead by the live service business model necessitating frequent adjustments to keep people engaged.

>>58211790
If I wanted to go through the work of getting a ROM hack, I might as well go for a completely new experience rather than a slightly tweaked base game.

Yellow Legacy is GOATed for giving Aerodactyl a learnset that doesn't suck dick.

>>58211790
I just want all removed version exclusives to be added back in, yet the selfwanking faggotry ruins it

>>58215748
Being the "gold standard" of low-effort slop isn't a badge to wear proudly.

>>58216542
Low-effort slop that blows the official releases out of the water.

The more the creator projects how exactly he wants his fans to follow him makes me more convinced I want nothing to do with his existence. It's just a sociopath #MeToo story that's still being written.

>>58216600
Big deal. We have a romhacking general full of people who have done far more.

>>58216860
Not anymore. Most of the devs who posted on /rheg/ fled years ago, now it's just idea guys.

>>58214516
hating the split continues to be a surefire way to out yourself as a retard

I prefer hacks that are modular like Modern Emerald and Throwback. What I mean by this is that every change is configurable whether it's through in-game options or separate patches.

>>58211790
Because it’s baby’s first enhancement hack that does nothing original. Every single one of its features were copied from better hacks. Yet the only reason it gets attention is because of a clickbaiting e-celeb acting like he alone did everything without stealing code and made his fanfiction meta perfect. As if some middle-schooler didn’t do the same thing 15 years ago. This shit is the reason why some rom hackers go closed-source.

>>58212310
Pretty easy when you copy all your code from other hacks.

>>58216874
Zoom.

>>58214500
Banette spotted

>>58217108
>that does nothing original
It has perfect balancing.
>e-celeb acting like he alone did everything without stealing code
He credits everyone who helped him and it's not stealing with the code is open-source.
>fanfiction meta perfect
It is perfect.

>>58217618
>It has perfect balancing
Exactly, it does nothing original.

>>58217695
Keep being a contrarian if it makes you feel good, lad.

>>58217727
That's not being a contrarian, that's stating facts. But keep having your little melty, it's hilarious how desperate you are to win /vp/'s approval.

>>58217755
No one is desperate for the approval of you fat retards lol.

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>>58217762
That's literally the thread topic.

>>58217220
No no, he has a point.