>>58220522
this game SUCKS

>>58220522
this game ROCKS

I want 2 of the new Altaria to finally make a full dragon deck but I have no luck getting it.

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Is this a candidate for the worst card in the game? I've tried everything to make him work but it's godawful. You can't even pick which energy gets painted over so if even after all the effort to get him going, he can still shit himself.

>>58221120
Still can't be worse than Triumphant Light Giratina

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>>58221120
ENTER

I feel that cards like Whitney which only work for specific mons should flat out be a Max Potion that heals said Pokemon back to full HP while curing them of statuses.
That's the least they should be capable of for forcing you to play mediocre cards.

>>58221559
Well, we have:
>Heal 30 damage and recover from all conditions
>Heal 40 damage from everything with a water energy on it
>Heal 50 damage from a grass type
>Heal 60 damage from a Stage 2 Pokemon
>Heal 60 damage from Miltank and recover from all conditions
>Fully heal a grass type, but remove all energies from it

I dunno, seems fair. Basically any card that names specific Pokemon is bound to be gimmick shit that's designed for a specific iteration of Pokemon, or it kneecaps every proceeding iteration of that Pokemon just because the possibility exists.

>>58221559
Whitney should have been the heal AND add another stack to Miltank's attack. That way, you at least have a chance to win going first.

>>58221120
I like it

>opponent plays an absolute meme deck
>still ragequits
Why?

>>58222108
Maybe he found a funny deck and decided to give it a try.
So as he was heading towards his 10th consecutive loss he began to question his life choices.
Maybe.

Darkrai is a nigger card for niggers

That is all

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It has been over a week since I've seen an ex card.

>>58222506
And I've only had 1 baby pack since the set's release.

>>58220522
How good is poliwrath ex with lucario and mantyke? I would assume its an automatic loss if you start with mantyke and riolu sense you couldn't capitalize on the water energy
Is there a better mon to pair with it?

>need 1 phero to have a chance of winning, just 1 and 1 attack
>both pheros are the last 2 cards in deck
>opponent uses Mars when I'm at 2 cards left
>both Pheros are still bottom 2
And I am supposed to look at crap like this or like Iono consistently giving you the exact same hand back in the same exact order and not think the game is rigged and bricks you via algorithm.

Ho-Oh faded pretty quickly lmao

>>58222548
>Slow ramp deck that requires a bench
Suicune eats him for breakfast.

>>58222520
x1 elemental switch to move your misplaced water

Is Cyrus the most humiliating card in this game? You retreat hoping to stall a bit or to maybe bring in a new attacker to turn the match, and then Cyrus just drags that mon back out without you being able to do anything about it.

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>>58222696
It doesn't help that his default expression is stern stoicism while your limping Pokemon gets pushed back into the line of fire

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I am trying to make a dragon only brew, ignore the erikas, they are placeholders because i don't have a single Altaria right now but what do you think?

>ramp attacks into me and dies
>opponent has 3 points because of this
>but he has nothing on bench
>tie
Hold on, did they change how this works? because last time I played rampardos and got 3 points but it killed itself with nothing on the bench it was an auto defeat

>>58222773
Add in non-ex giratina if you are gonna meme.

>>58222696
I remember Cyrus being released and us mocking cowards who retreated. Good times.

>>58222806
It uses grass energy so it wouldn't work.

>>58222773
I don't really see what Altaria is doing that the other dragons wouldn't do better. I'd raather build Garchomp, Dragonite, or even Kommo-o as the main line since they all need 2 different energies to be functional. Drampa might be useful, if only because it can also function without having different energies on it.

i'm so tired of suicune greninja. it's all anyone plays now. i don't want to play anymore because it's the same lazy strategy every time.

>>58222869
It's not even a particularly fun deck to counter either. No fun bench building strats without the bird.

Irida has always been this insanely broken card, we are now only remembering because water has a good deck again.

>>58222817
Retreating is actually less valuable now because of Cyrus. Most of the time now you don't retreat to save a Pokemon but you retreat instead to attack with another

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>80 damage to giratina

>>58222939
>Erika heals 50 to a single Grass-type Pokemon
>Iridia heals 40 to EVERY Pokemon you have that has a Water energy on it
Is Water just bad in the regular TCG? I don't get why they would make it so strong. It's that, plus Misty that can straight up let you win turn 1.

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What is it?

>>58222997
poliwrath

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Not unhappy because it's a beautiful card

>>58222997
Crobat

>for some reason even I don't know I decide to inflict myself with the CBT that is going from UB1 to MB
If they hadn't implemented streaks in UB I would have stopped, they made it far less painful than last time I went MB. Started Sylveon/Espeon with a side of Oricorio/Sylvaly, but the one who brought it in and that I was using most in UB3/4 was Buzz/mosa. It was also the most fun in general so if you're looking for a deck to run try that one.

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>>58223050
I used my eggs deck to get to Master Ball but when I posted it the schizo got mad

>>58222987
Don’t forget it has fisherman and the net item and for teamates it has fucking Greninja and now Mantyke and goddamn Suicune Ex

>>58221275
Wow thats awful

please, god, i just want to rank up, quit constantly putting me on the edge, i'm so tired of suicune-greninja-tina decks

>>58223050
Yep, Grass Beasts last season was the most fun for me since Arceus + Mew

>>58222758
>while your limping Pokemon gets pushed back
Not pushed back. Dragged back.

>>58223134
Odd comment. This guy's a streamer. He's supposed to make meme decks and get wins with unorthodox builds. What's the point in watching someone just play the same metadeck you find in world championships and top of regional tournies?

>>58223221
I had a streak going, then a tie killed my streak, meaning my next victory left me at 1 point from MB. That was immediately followed by 2 matches with bricked hands vs guys with perfect combo hands that were unaffected by red card/Mars, all while going first every time.

>Failed a Whitney WP
Painful

>>58223486
The sad thing is I'm jealous of you even seeing a Whitney WP to fail. I'm sure I won't even see a single 2 star this whole week.
This game is ass. And they know it too, which is why they're planning that big player retention update.

>>58223564
Any news on this?

why did they make latias and latios garbage?

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Does this have any potential

>>58223622
It's a 3-energy 50-90 attack most of the time
Ironically it's the one that has the heavy retreat cost it wishes most of its opponents would also have

>>58223626
Sad he's one of my favorites but neither of his versions are good

>>58223661
surely his ex will be good

>>58222506
Same. I only have 1 legendary Beast card (Entei), and I've never seen Suicune in WP. This is easily the worst expansion for me in terms of luck.

>successfully wp FA Silver
Now what do I do with my pack points? I'm close to 1250 and was planning to buy FA Silver. I suppose I could get a playset if I wanted. I already have a playset of FA Will and I'm not interested in the women of these packs. Silver was in my usual wp spot and sneak peek activated. The same happened last month with one of the Wills

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I can't believe I got all 3 dogs on cliffs from the set.

>finally get a wp worth trying
>sneak peek doesn't activate
this is such a dogshit mechanic holy shit

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Just got this bad boy from Wonder Pick

I got a 2* Suicune yesterday and the immersive one today. The game is telling me to play a Suicune/Greninja deck, isn't it?

>>58223134
I used the version with pupitar, 70 damage and -20 damage for 2 energy is one hell of a drug.

>>58223785
Not a single 4star in my WP page, when is rape justified? Because i feel fucking molested

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I was pretty lucky with this set, getting doubles of all the ex and 3 diamonds I wanted by 210 pack points but the only rarer than 1-star card I pulled was a shiny Clodsire

>alakazam has an IQ of over 5000
yeah right

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neat

>>58223729
I can't play a single new deck, either. For how many common packs I get, I'm still missing Whitney and Memory Light.

This is the worst meta of all time. Literally every deck is suicune, the only variation is what combination of greninja, prismarina, or giratina they're running

>>58224217
Yeah, well deal with it chud.
They clearly didn't care about this month, the most important is coming up in fall. Hopefully we get Mega set next month. If not mistake it will be the 1 year anniversary. 3 new sets... shit gonna go crazy

Got a second Gyarados EX from wonder pick, what's the brew that uses Eternal Light?

>>58224305
Eternal cope

Where did you get your friends from that you see 2* WPs frequently? I've been playing since day 1 and have seen extremely few of those and for that matter have only ever seen a single god pack WP (which gave me the 1 card I already had).

>>58224312
When i get 2* they dont even show up on my friends WP. Those were single pulls too

>>58224312
My friend got a 2* Gallade pull that showed up in my WP the other day. Let him pick the slot and flunked it though

>>58224312
Same. I rarely see anything better than an art card or regular ex. Never seen 2* or a god pack really

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>>58220522
Is there a reason why we don't use Pokemon Meta? I'm gonna keep it a bean: the one in the OP sucks balls.

>>58224404
I have trouble finding deck lists on this website

If going through the bullshit suicune meta every game wasn't enough, nobody is sending thanks either
Fuck this shit, I'm waiting for october

>>58223564
>which is why they're planning that big player retention update.
What player retention update? "Keep playing our game or we will AI generate a video of John Pikachu raping your favorite Pokemon and email it to you"?

>>58224217
>This is the worst meta of all time.
Shining Revelry was worse. "Darktina but it's also objectively the best deck in the format" was fucking miserable.

>>58224457
Go to private rooms and enter the passcode "thanks"

>>58224503
At least darktina doesn't also draw a free card on each turn, or hit you for guaranteed 60 min, 120 max on turn 4
How do you play around a mon who charges faster, has more HP, and is almost certain to have an out in their hand?

>>58224512
There are multiple counters to suicune right now.

I understand that it's frustrating but the other Anon is correct, darktina was WAY worse than this and I don't miss it

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>>58224499
This one that was announced in a shareholders report.

>>58224519
It would have been really funny if they counted chink bots in the "new user acquisition"

Wisdom of the sea and sky did me so dirty, I've pulled so many packs and I hardly got anything out of it

Meanwhile the Eevee set loved me and gave me two immersive eever almost immediately

I still don't have immersive Lugia or Ho-Oh

>>58224523
Bold of you to assume they didn't

>>58224512
Buzz deck wasn't doing bad against Suicune actually, so long as you don't brick, it can fuck them over quite well.

>>58224533
What's "buzz deck"?

>>58224532
It would explain why they have a steady surge of new users that abandon the game quickly.

>>58224536
Buzzwhole

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easy (f2p)
I hate sets with more than one booster pack, I now have guardians AND wisdom in my backlog.

>>58224512
Latias x Latios doing good against it
Multiple electric brews doing good against it
Exeggutor doing good against it

Suicuines days are numbered, repel is already forcing the deck to alter its structure and run boat

>>58224546
Alolan egg or ex egg?

>>58224548
Both but mainly Alolan

>>58224552
Did Memory Light really make it a non-meme deck finally?

>playing against Suicune deck
>he's running primarina
>I can kill cune next turn but only if he doesn't get Rina online and heals
>he gets her online
>does not heal
>continues to not use the heal for like 2 turns, then resigns
Wtf? If it was in early ranks I'd assume it's some kid but this was in UB4.

>>58224556
I mean whether it's a meme deck is kind of up to the eye of the beholder

But it took me to master. Decklist is here.>>58223068
Can't take credit for it it's been making the rounds lately but it actually works.
Sometimes you brick but that's the same as any deck.
Alolan eggs can hit so hard you end a lot of games before they start, you just need a little luck.

The reason why it's good against Suicune is that you completely gimp their damage, at most you have only one Pokemon on the bench.

I've been experimenting with swapping out one eggs ex with the celestic town elder to potentially have three Pokemon because realistically the reason you run for evos is just to ensure that you can Evo into something, but Alolan eggs is almost always preferable.

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>WSS Togekiss, Cursola, Skarmory ex, etc
>all newer cards with damage reduction abilities
>still doesn't cover for non-battle damage when Greninja and Darkrai have been shitting up the meta for months

>>58224577
The game still hasn't given me any memory light, so I'm SOL with that deck.

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>2 mantykes in WP
>first one doesn't even give me a sneak peak
>second one does, but i still don't get it
I'm getting real fed up with this set. I have never had luck so bad before. 2 ex cards, and a shitload of Altaria with basically nothing else.

>>58224857
You can probably run it without memory light for now. I used to have a more memory light heavy list but it really is kind of a corner case. The leaf capes are honestly more useful

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Finally a good sneak peak

>>58224872
Based

>>58224505
Nta, but...
Recently, I've had to do at least 6 battles in "Thanks" to earn the 4 Thanks I need daily.
Last week, the game paired me against the same person 5 times in a row, and they only gave me ONE thanks...

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>>58224872
okay I got greedy...

>>58224889
It's sad when the pick starts revealing the cards and the one you want is the penultimate one.
All that expectation building...

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Is this the preferred Lati Twins deck

post your decks that made it to MB and aren't NPC-tier metafaggotry

>>58225122
Define "NPC-tier metafaggotry". Because if by that you mean all semi-consistent decks that don't rely on specific gimmicks then good fucking luck with the climb. However if you just mean no darktina/suicune then a couple have already been posted ITT.

>>58225098
Close enough

>>58225148
I'm already in MB I'm just curious what others have used. And yeah I mean just not the cookie cutter shit people copy from limitlesstcg top 8s. I saw a guy use suicine+primarina which I thought was based

>>58225098
Remove all the latis and 1 pokeball, add 2x Silver and another nurse and repel

There's an FA Morty in WP. Should I? I don't give a damn about him, but if trainers can be traded in the future, I might be able to get someone else

>>58225241
I always go for the 2 stars in WP

>>58225241
I would never NOT go for a 2 star card in WP, especially during a sneak peek event. I even go for cards I already have

Can someone please trade me a Ho-oh EX? Ask me for whatever you need and I’ll let you know if I have it
4860019518532731

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There is a bug where Memory Light doesn't activate the effect of Starly's attack to remove the opponent's tool card. I submitted a support ticket and hopefully they fix it so I can Pluck my opponents to death.

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Well shit, I guess I should be thankful.

Not to sound like a whiney faggot, but how is there not more uproar against this guzzlord deck? It is probably the most toxic deck in pocket history, total luck going against it. It does not matter how well you play, the coin flips determine literally everything when going up against it. Its so fucking stupid. It feels like 18t articuno all over again but way fucking better.

>>58225343
>It does not matter how well you play, the coin flips determine literally everything
Sounds like evey match regardless of decks

>>58225353
Id rather shit be determined by hand draws and damage rather than fucking grindcore.

>>58225343
I think people did bitch about it but that meta was defined mostly by Darktina and Buzzwole. Every Pocket deck until Darktina actually was literally coinflip shit. It sucked so much ass, just in a different way than braindead stuff like Darktina or drawyourwholedeckinoneturnlol like Psychic Eevees or Suicune.

>>58225358
And I'd rather get a chance to play anything costing more than 2 energy without being nuked for 60+ by suicune and the frogs. Neither of us is getting what he wants

>>58225283
You wouldn't be the first
https://x.com/PokemonTCGP/status/1963316070510412134?t=mv6RxQBNHURuMkhNwOINuA&s=19

>>58225168
>Suicune/frog bad
>exact same deck but you change frog for prima ok
Anon please.

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>>58225343
>Most toxic deck
>Not Darktina

Don't care, lrn2gitgud retard

>>58225343
It is very annoying indeed but it can brick easily and if it hits a counter like funny bird it has trouble getting around it while maintaining energy advantage, even with celesteela, plus if steela dies or is not on bench early enough then guzzlord is a sitting duck.

>>58225343
yeah shits pretty tilting when niggers hit heads on every grindcore, at least pretty much every grass deck wipes the floor with it

>>58225438
are you implying having two frogs on the bench isn't integral to what the deck is? remove that and it's completely different

play pichu+dragonite ex
matchup agnostic - barney early = instant win
lyra for surprise giga impact refreshes
oneshot dumb yellow bird with dragonair
eats major shit to slowking but barely anyone plays that so it's fine

>>58225488
>putting stuff to your bench
>in this economy

>>58225477
You're still hitting the other guy for 60-120 woth 2 energies, drawing your entire fucking deck for free and with Prima you have extra heal vs frog's extra gamage, with tina still charging in the back, or gyarados, or whatever else you wanna run.

>>58225272
>>58225281
I managed to got him. Neat

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>>58222773
Finally got my Altarias, change it a little and is pretty good so far but so far I haven't use the elemental tubes once, for what I should change them?

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hmm

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>>58225632
im too good

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Suicune ruined ranked, they basically just shoved in a deck into the fucking game that has a damn near perfect MU spread i to everything except 2 decks. Deck might have been balanced if giratina faggotry didnt exist, it gets a free finisher to stall with and 2 iridas to remove all chip damage. Fuck this retarded game, it feels like 3 years worth of power creep in only 1.

>>58225567
guzma and a leaf or x speed

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This is an amusing troll deck

This dragonite deck is fucking awful how is anyone playing this garbage? So many “good decks” that are actually bad and just rely on a good starting hand with zero flexibility. I cant believe this game just became highroll city.

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Hear me out

>>58226041
What exactly is your goal? If you want energy to fuel Smeargle, a baby will supply it easier, and you don't have to use any on retreat costs. And if the enemy doesn't care that much about energy colors, then you just die.

Can someone conform this? If the card you see with the sneak preview is the same one that was there before the "shuffle", that means all the cards are in their original positions?

>>58226077
*confirm

>>58226077
it's random the moment you click accept for sneak peak it randomizes twice

>>58226084
I want to believe that but the fact a FA whitney was IN THE SAME SLOT she was before the shuffle and that I could have gotten her if I trusted the evidence with the preview card being the same card from before the shuffle goves me despair, seriously, i feel extremely down.

>dont get a good hand turn 1
>lose
Pocket has evolved into such a sad game.

>get a good hand turn 1
>win
Pocket has evolved into such an awesome game.

>>58226010
lookin good

Does anyone know at what MB score you get a rank? Also I imagine that no matter your rank you still get demoted to UB4, right?

>>58226265
usually it's around 2400 ish

What is a "high roll" deck?

>>58226278
Then I'm not even trying it, plus I think the number makes the emblem look ugly, do you get the clean version as well?

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monke

>>58226092
The game does this purposefully to inflict pain on you and encourage you to try again.
At some point, you'll try with a lower-cost or less-desirable card, and it will work. Then, when you try again with a card you really want, you fail. Or not.
You'll never know for sure.
They want you to feel the doubt.

>>58221275
i actually used ditto briefly as a one-off during the silvally rampardos meta that lasted like a week
since 90% of people on the ladder were running it, it was basically a 1 energy basic rampardos and i won so many games just dropping it and revenge-killing their rampardos
hit master and everything
i might have been a silvally rampardos player myself but at least i was trying to innovate yknow

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Where were you when she saved the meta?

>>58226404
high roll decks are basically decks that rely mostly on good early-game luck to achieve victory, so in pocket it'd be something like stokezard. if you go first, rare candy into zard turn 3 and stoke, you win outright against the majority of decks. if not, you're looking at an uphill battle you're probably not going to win.

>>58226676
whats the brew

>>58226656
Actually incredibly based

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>>58226681

>>58225343
Darktina and Solgaleo are just too stupid broken

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I quite enjoy this deck, still need Mantyke to truly finish it though

>>58226734
Where would you add mantyke?

>>58226734
Only one dewpider? Seems like you need 2

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Best Malamar deck for your favorite friend Malamar?

>>58226747
Remove Manaphy for it
>>58226761
I usually gamble on the Pokeballs

>>58226792
But... You're running suicune... You benefit from a full bench

>>58226794
I just use fishing net if someone dies

>try to brew
>raped by the 5th suicune deck
atleast you cant derank i guess. Rare candy was a mistake

DURANT IS SHIT

I WANT DURANT TO BE BETTER

I LOVE DURANT

I LOVE MILLING

THEY ARE TOO FUCKING PUSSY TO GIVE US A GOOD MILLING CARD

SO THEY MADE DURANT USELESS

>>58226902
mega gyara soon millchad

>>58226902
wait for mega gyarados
trust the plan

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>>58226902
Blame the the devs for giving 80 different fucking ways to ramp Grass EXECPT directly

I feel you though man, buncha cocksuckers

>>58226926
Scizor's actually somewhat usable at least thanks to the lower retreat and attack costs

>>58226404
For this game its decks that rely on 1 energy stage 2 mons

>Gyarados AGAIN
For fuck's sake can this stupid ugly fucking thing just die already? I dunno if it or Zard are more annoying when it comes to gen 1 mon they just cannot stop shoving into everything.

Was all the energy generation we got a mistake? There is no early/mid/late game anymore. Like whats the point of cards like GA charizard anymore, they served a purpose but now they are pointless

>>58226960
Darktina happened

>>58226960
my STS Porygon-Z deck gets worse every new set as the meta has shifted into low 1-2 energy attackers or energy rampers that don't care about the energy pool switching gimmick

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>>58226902
Self milling is the way

>>58226985
Post brew

>>58226985
I mean didn't it get better recently with Porygon2 buggy evolution ability

>>58226960
>walls
pointless
>chip damage with efficient basics/stage ones
pointless
>having two attacks, one low one high cost
pointless

>>58227147
Pointless opinion.
>Walls
Skarmory says hi
>Chip with basics
That's the entire game now if you haven't fucking noticed
>>having two attacks
Always relevant and extremely common in the real game, disappointing they don't do more with it here

>>58226690
Been playing this in ranked and to my shock its really good
>Latios can be a tank, pivot or nuke depending on hat you need
>Latias is extremely good early game damage and bulky compared to other basic mons with similar damage/energy ratio
>Giratina always a threat, can build up in the background or build alongside Latios depending on the situation
>Perfect and easy to achieve prize map of 1-1-2

>>58227146
consistency yes, but it still needs 3 energy

>>58227133
just the standard dialga ex porygon-z build but replaced one of the dialga with 2 pichu. Just kept a Dialga in since it does have a 100 attack and can be boosted by the Pichus too

>>58223612
This also upset me and is the reason I'm not bothering to subscribe this month. At least the pixie trio with shaymin was fun to play before they were powercrept. The power creep is so bad right now that Latios and Latias are dead on arrival.

>>58226690
>they need Giratina Ex
Pain, not because I don't have it, I do, but that sucks they need it and aren't good on their own.

>>58227302
dunking on darktina players with a lucky mesprit start was fun in SR
especially
sadly that was the last set lake trio was remotely viable, CG brought in rare candy so every deck could stomach supreme blast

>>58227328
Retarded take desu

>>58227328
Name a single deck right now that can take a supreme blast

And if you say "cape" I'm going to say "red"

>>58227302
>dead on arrival
They're literally in a master rank deck

>>58227351
it's unviable now for different reasons
CG was a slower meta where everything was a stage 2 with cape
nowadays it's unviable because every single goddamn deck can fucking oneshot the pixies turn 3 so you get at most one supreme blast off before you get rolled
i don't know why this is even an argument people are having, the deck is literally fucking unplayable there's not a single deck in the top 50 on limitless it does well into