>One of the coolest designs in Gen 5>Not a single soul talks about it
>gen 5Lol
>>58225976>overdesigned digimon
>>58225976There's talk about it. But not that much. It rarely comes up even in Gen 5 discussion, and currently Gen 5 is one of the most talked about gens.>>58225988How's it overdesigned?
Nobody cares coolmons thats why gf makes everything goofy now those get more discussion >>58226061People only talk about garbodor and vanilluxe
>>58225988It’s just dragon-type Absol.
>>58226069that's because this fandom is flooded by gen alphaggot secondaries who are too brainrotten by skibbidy toilet to enjoy things unironically
>>58226069Is Hydreigon goofy enough, it's way more popular, one of the most popular gen 5 pokemon
>>58226137Yes it has sockpuppets for heads
>>58226061It's detailed. People will call something detailed they don't like overdesigned.
>>58226069And a good chunk of the cool mons, like Volcarona, Hydreigon, Zoroark and Samurott.
>>58226195>It's detailedNo, it's overdesigned.
>>58225976It’s sort of just unexceptional, and it was at launch once everyone looked past its attacking stat. Mono dragon physical attacker with a bland movepool? Garchomp was ground and bulkier/faster, while Hydreigon was dark, the first special attacker pseudo, and immune to ground. >>58226198Volcarona, Hydreigon, and Zoroark are cool yeah. Samurott is ugly dogshit though.
>>58225976Unovafags are more concerned with trying to convince everyone that Vanilluxe is a good design than actually appreciating their decent mons.
>>58225988>>58226069>>58226206If that is overdesigned to you than what is gyarados you damn shitmutts.
It insist upon itself. Gen 5 has the lowest ratio of good designs. There are a handful of good ones in there but Haxorus ends up falling flat.
>>58226206That looks straight up worse. Also just because you dislike something doesn't make it overdesigned.
>>58226209And yet Samurott is often discussed amongst the coolest Pokémon in gen 5 everywhere but here.
>>58226206That looks straight up better. Also just because something exists in gen 5 doesn't make it well designed.
>>58226223No we aren't Vanilluxe is just an okay design.
>>58226231The only reason Gyarados isn't considered overdesigned by today's standards is because of nostalgia.
>>58226282It is considered overdesigned by modern Pokémon design principles, but those are incredibly simplistic so that's not necessarily a bad thing.
>>58226258>>58226270why must every thread about designs be like this
>>58226292One guy giving a valid opinion and another copying his homework and changing it to be incorrect
>>58226237gen 5 wonned doe https://typematchupquiz.com/favorites?scope=global&view=table1 Chandelure ELO 1454 WIN% 89.97 2 Garchomp 1459 87.46 3 Scizor 1345 85.92 4 Dragapult 1362 85.33 5 Umbreon 1415 84.76 6 Torterra 1305 83.94 7 Tyranitar 1383 83.45 8 Darkrai 1291 83.27 9 Ninetales Alola 1316 82.21 10 Sylveon 1391 81.43 11 Giratina 1364 81.23 12 Kyogre Primal 1247 81.06 13 Aegislash Blade 1392 80.77 14 Gliscor 1347 80.61 15 Metagross 1376 80.34 16 Empoleon 1250 80.07 17 Espeon 1325 80.00 18 Clodsire 1422 79.93 19 Lapras 1206 79.89 20 Hydreigon 1365 79.87 21 Arcanine 1310 79.54 22 Ceruledge 1393 79.50 23 Rayquaza 1266 79.23 24 Groudon 1272 79.08 25 Zoroark Hisui 1270 79.07 26 Gyarados 1154 78.71 27 Rayquaza Mega 1278 78.65 28 Mudkip 1336 78.57 29 Gengar 1203 78.29 30 Breloom 1315 77.86 31 Gardevoir 1132 77.70 32 Decidueye 1281 77.67 33 Iron Valiant 1186 77.61 34 Skeledirge 1377 77.46 35 Altaria 1347 77.42 36 Giratina Origin 1230 77.42 37 Krookodile 1274 76.95 38 Mimikyu 1234 76.87 39 Dragonite 1136 76.62 40 Aegislash 1315 76.51 41 Volcarona 1297 76.41 42 Kyogre 1179 76.27 43 Metagross Mega 1245 76.14 44 Swampert 1245 76.09 45 Dratini 1204 76.03 46 Heracross 1304 75.86 47 Eevee 1230 75.69 48 Mew 1139 75.65 49 Snorlax 1290 75.58 50 Latios 1248 75.55
>>58226305Yeah, fairit's still completely reductive to the entire argument though
>>5822631251 Gengar Mega 1238 75.40 52 Ursaluna 1279 75.32 53 Noivern 1262 75.31 54 Annihilape 1364 75.18 55 Tyrantrum 1247 75.10 56 Milotic 1191 75.10 57 Samurott Hisui 1245 75.09 58 Zorua Hisui 1209 75.09 59 Gallade 1173 75.09 60 Crobat 1158 75.09 61 Haunter 1267 75.08 62 Lunala 1242 75.08 63 Venusaur 1226 75.00 64 Centiskorch 1273 74.91 65 Leafeon 1165 74.91 66 Articuno Galar 1309 74.81 67 Typhlosion Hisui 1186 74.81 68 Marowak Alola 1233 74.74 69 Ampharos Mega 1210 74.61 70 Moltres Galar 1274 74.60 71 Miraidon 1277 74.46 72 Raichu Alola 1187 74.43 73 Hydrapple 1218 74.34 74 Marshadow 1209 74.30 75 Blastoise 1144 74.05 76 Suicune 1267 73.95 77 Flutter Mane 1257 73.95 78 Lugia 1137 73.93 79 Typhlosion 1152 73.79 80 Togekiss 1266 73.67 81 Vulpix Alola 1248 73.67 82 Litwick 1096 73.65 83 Gardevoir Mega 1128 73.48 84 Bisharp 1189 73.43 85 Lucario Mega 1138 73.41 86 Galvantula 1286 73.31 87 Greninja 1155 72.99 88 Porygon-Z 1051 72.98 89 Excadrill 1096 72.79 90 Roaring Moon 1169 72.76 91 Latias 1247 72.73 92 Mewtwo 1187 72.73 93 Totodile 1133 72.52 94 Azumarill 1217 72.20 95 Mismagius 1186 71.96 96 Glaceon 972 71.93 97 Reuniclus 1145 71.91 98 Arcanine Hisui 1206 71.63 99 Solgaleo 1232 71.53 100 Zorua 1150 71.53
>>58226292One guy giving an invalid opinion and another fixing his homework and changing it to be correct
>>58226270If we're being honest, the generation a Pokémon is introduced in has no impact on whether it's a good design or not.
>>58225988Pokefags who don't know anything about Digimon need to shut their mouths.THIS is an overdesigned Digimon.
>>58226209>Samurott le bad!Being contrarian doesn’t make you interesting
>>58226312but where is CHARIZARD from kanto?
>>58225976>>58226137Nobody cares about dragon Pokemon outside of competitive.
>>58226335I'm a pokefag who adores DigimonThe best thing about them both is that they're nothing like each other.heres an example; theres only 3 "types" in Digimon.The only reason they get compared is here is the West, cause their animes where released close to each other.I was going to mention one digimon and pokemon that I love, but theres honestly too many that I like, and too many to make a decent comparison with.why continue this western manufactured rivalry. They're both cool as fuck, and liking both is bliss.
how much do you expect us to discuss a pokemon from like 15 years ago? haxorus is pretty cool, but what is there to discuss?
>>58226398>a pokemon from 15 years agoI remember discussing which starter to pick back then with my best friend
>>58225976first place in the special olympics
>>58226342emborts having a superiority complex over samurottfags will never not be funny.
>>58226411yeah, thinking about the fact gen 5 is the middle of the series and not new makes me feel ancient too, but it is the truth lol
>>58226364>I was going to mention one digimon and pokemon that I love, but theres honestly too many that I like, and too many to make a decent comparison with.translation: you were going to say Greymon and Charizard but you knew you'd be called a basic bitch and chickened out
>>58226398>BW>15 years ago
>>58226292Because this board is full of unchecked faggots thanks to the lazy good-for-nothing moderators.
>>58226398There’s a Samurott thread at least once a week so age obviously isn’t a problem.
>>58226206
>>58226469Based. It actually looks like a Pokemon now.
>>58226469arms and legs too longreal pokemon are stubby
>>58226270>>58226321parroting is an admission of defeat
>>58225976>BortmonYikes
>>58226501thank you for admitting defeat
>>58226469Looks much worse. Looks like a generic cartoon luzard that got it's head stuck in an axe.
A couple things>Axew was hidden in some cave during Gen 5>Hydreigon was more popular anyway>Zekrom/Reshiram are required to finish the game, so you get a dragon for free>Fairy was introduced after>No Mega form to keep up with the power creep
>>58226578>zoomer screeching about a design being bland/genericis there a greater sign of a kino design?
>>58226614Haxorus was revealed before release and got exclusive spotlight unlike Hydreigon, and Axew was a major shillmon in the anime.
>>58226457starters get extra discussion because everyone takes one of the same three, most use it as their ace, and people compare them within and across the generations
>>58226621I'm a millennial you retard. Unless 92 is suddenly Gen Z.
>>58226621"Anyone who disagrees with me is a zoomer"
>>58225976> 97i cant
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>>58226673gen 1 mons are allowed a second color
>>58226673It's crazy how much better this pokemon looks when its armor isn't that snot green color. Either changing it to a gold like that or a green like its pre evos makes such a massive difference
>>58226770At least it has a cool shiny
>>58225976Gen 5 came out at a time when all the original fans were growing out of it or grown up and the younger generation was too young to get into it.
>>58226292because mods don't do their jobsmight've realized they're worthless and killed themselves but don't count on it
>>58226673neck needs to be shorter and feet need to be non-retarded looking
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>>58226862>feet need to be non-retarded lookingAre those claws?! We don't do that here! We only allow retarded elephant feet!
>>58225976Only ever discussed in shiny forums
