He actually looks like a person and not a generic background villain.
Anon nobody actually believes RSE characters look better. ORAS saved that dumpster fire cast from obscurity of just being the "May Generation" because without the redesigns they all would've been completely forgotten. It's the generation that had the least amount of effort put into its human cast, I doubt even Steven would be anywhere near as popular without his cuter redesign in ORASThere's a reason people clowned on Gen III until the remakes
>>58226537god I wish the DPPt characters got the same treatmentILCA was a mistake
>>58226523Left looks like a dad trying to act cool
>>58226540You got the crossdressers in plass, be happy
>>58226523>He actually looks like a personA person wearing flashy cosplay however
>>58226523too simple vs too complicated
>>58226523>leftDressed like someone who is a criminal boss>rightDresses like someone who pretends to be a criminal bossWhen in doubt, wear black
>>58226568What if we were to combine both designs?
>>58226585>leftDressed like a divorced deadbeat dad who likes to pretend he's a biker>rightDressed like a guy who wants to stand out
>>58226523I like right more because he's a black male with swag
>>58226608Why would a criminal want to stand out?
>>58226620>he says, about a franchise where all the criminal gangs wear themed outfitsthe rest of team are running around dressed like fucking pirates, my dude
>>58226537Flannery was more popular before the ORAS redesign.
>>58226523ORASS was shit but the redesigns were much needed.
>>58226620activists rights criminals
>>58226620He doesn’t seem himself as a villain
>>58226585>criminal bossReminder that Team Aqua and Team Magma aren't running criminal enterprises, they're environmental extremists. Archie wants to expand the sea so there's a larger habitat for Water-type Pokemon. Maxie wants to expand the landmass so there's a larger habitat for land-dwelling Pokemon (and people). Archie isn't a retarded pirate, and Maxie isn't a giganerd. Both original versions of Archie and Maxie showed up again in USUM as part of Rainbow Rocket.
>>58226663She was definitely the most popular of a bunch of clowns and jokers, but she never shown as brightly as characters like Jasmine, let alone Cynthia. Flannery's official art is actually my favorite example of showing how utterly scuffed Sugimori's art style was in this era. None of the style of Gen I+II without the design etiquette Gen V introduced that would make those characters infinitely more memorable. DP has this issue too, almost worse, but it's also the generation that banged out Dawn and Cynthia who COMPLETELY overshadow every character from those games regardless male or femaleHoenn is extremely thankful ORAS saved this cast from obscurity. BDSP could've been that too if Masuda wasn't a hack fraud who doesn't understand his own creation
>nobody actually believes RSE characters look betterI didn't care much for the redesigns.
>>58226523It replaces whitey
>>58227044>whiteyKanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh are all Japan
>>58227044>NormanIt replaces Whitney
>>58226523I honestly appreciate both approaches. It's different artists, for starters, gen 3 team aqua was sugi, gen 6 was ariga and ohmura.
>>58227044just like real life then?
>>58226537nonsense historical revisionism and people will believe it anyways because everyone on this board was born after RSE came out. don't worry though, i know you're a huge faggot, just know you're not fooling everybody.
>>58226523I like left
I have strong opinions about the ORAS redesigns
>>58227312Huge faggots are the children that grew up with RSE as their childhood games. Most Pokemania fans just watched the anime anyway, the games were completely secondary until DP
>>58227350>RSE>Pokemania
>>58226523OG Archie barely even looked like a villain. He looked like a random guy in a crowd shot. Fucker barely even fit with his own team's pirate theme beyond a bandana.
>>58227354Entirely missed the intent of my post
Man, Sugimori really was at his lowest during Gen III era...
>>58226523>>58226568>>58226585>>58227024>>58227334buh...buh...le right one brown and le left one white....buh....buh white GOOD....
>>58226523OG looks better imo. Right just looks cartoony and a bit over the top.
>>58226537>cuterGayyyy>>58226727>>58226663What gimps her permanently is that she wears now universally behated Y2K jeans. If she had tight pants she would be a coomed over staple nowadays.
>>58227717y2k is in right now, get with the times
>>58227416what color?
>>58226540preasu undastandu, pokeniggerru catterru deservu row quarrity techu demo sorrapu
>MayWorse>FlanneryWorse>RoxanneBetter>Shelly and CourtneyDidn't have official art previously so not a fair comparison>everyone elsePretty much unchanged or so forgettable that I don't remember them getting major redesigns
>>58226562You know why people wear cosplay, anon? To look like anime and video game characters. And this is a video game character.They are supposed to look a bit extra to be memorable, not to look like your uncle on a regular day
>>58226727Sugimori style was so much better then
>>58226523right is too over designed and cartoony and clearly appealing to kids who grew up on gay modern cartoon network shit
>>58227774Yeah, among women. I am not a woman though.
>>58226523Looks gay AF on the right
>>58226727I think peak Flannery would be the ORAS top with the RSE pants and belt
>>58226540Rent free
>>58226523>LeftIs just some Yakuza Tycoon Goon which was already done with Team Rocket Not a Pirate>RightUnique and CoolIs a Pirate
>>58226523Right is way too fucking over the top and looks like some weird water-themed superhero more than a pirate but to be fair left doesn't look like a pirate either
>>58229991>he thinks right looks coolshow us your fit NOW
>>58226523Left is a bad ass YakuzaRight is some nignog with a gay cosplay
>>58230054He thinks he is a super hero so it fits
>>58230100>bad ass YakuzaYou are correct His fit is both bad and ass
Every ORASS redesign is objectively worse than the original one.
Tabitha is so forgettable he wasn't even a part of the tiermaker list. I'd go worse than RSE for him
>>58230192retarded list
>>58226537>I doubt even Steven would be anywhere near as popular without his cuter redesign in ORASAnd you would be wrong. Steven was already loved and considered handsome before ORAS. He was even put in a fanon trio with Volkner and Riley just because they were all notable handsome characters at the time.
>>58230054>>58230100It's not a race swap. A lot of Japanese people have skin that's naturally pale but tans more deeply than that of Caucasians.ORAS tried to distinguish the teams' looks - Team Magma are pasty because they're poindexters, and Team Aqua are swarthy because they're sailors.More specifically, Archie wears a louder outfit than Maxie because he's a louder person with a dumber motive.
>>58230433And now he exceeds both. Funny that, huh?
>>58226523I just prefer the more down to earth designs. Pokemon's best when it sells the idea it's just a fantasy world adjacent to ours.RSE Archie is a guy that dresses a bit gangster-y. Similar to Giovanni. Not that it's a strong design, but it's how it fits into the world. ORAS Archie is like a dude that has to dress up for a pirate themed attraction in an amusement park.
>>58230467They haven't done good down to earth designs since Kanto. Pokemon's been a fantasy world since it was called Johto instead of Kansai. If you're doing fantasy world shit, nobody really cares about your "down to earth" designs. Especially when both of these retarded faggots are trying to flood the world
>>58230480Well yes making legendaries too godly is also part of a problem I have (though I do enjoy arceus/giratina lore at least)The design in gen 2 were fine though
We can all agree that the right is better here, right?
>>58226672>>58226726Reminder that environmental extremists IRL do whacky violent destructive shit too like break into testing labs to "rehome" the animals
>>58226537>Anon nobody actually believes RSE characters look better.i think the magma admins look better but that's about it
>>58226523>he actually looks like a personleft looks infinitely more like a person, go outside for once in your life
>>58226585Left looks like an office wimp who hasn't seen a beach since his 5th grade school trip and is allergic to seafood. Right looks like he takes waves to the face every day while sailing and hunts cow-sized tuna.
>>58230789right looks like a post-2010s cartoon network character
