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>>58228585
'Tis the fault of the Rotoms.

>>58228593
Poryphone Chad’s STAY winning.

Been too busy past couple of days and finally have time off. Gunning for 10 pages written today.

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Didn't get to ask, so why did Giratina summon that SI-LVER?

>>58228710
because it was bored, no kidding that's the whole reason

>>58228710
it was bored
and also now that the mewtwo movie has turned into a big nothingburger it's calling him to sinnoh as a cliffhanger

>>58228995
Hilarous, so he wanted some edgy guy to do ESCALATION while everyone else keeps playing with the kiddy gloves
>That grunt crying after being stabbed by SI-LVER because nobody tried to do that before

>>58229025
To be fair if there is a god of edge its Giratina.

>>58227685
My wild take is I see Arceus as an author more than an all-ruling God. It created the world of Pokemon, and all the living things in it, but it didn't have a will to enact in doing so much as a desire to see the stories its creations would make for themselves. It won't solve a hero's problems for them - but it IS rooting for them.
>"You can't be serious." The boy shuddered, patting her arms, her hair - every inch of her, to make sure she was really there, against her squirming protests. "You have to know, you're - you're a god!"
>And what does a god know of souls? I can see the heat rising off of your skin, perceive the glow of you in infared. I can hear the pumping of your heart, the rivers running through your arteries. The ragged, quivering breaths inflating your lungs. The snaps of neurons firing in sequence to order your thoughts. Are any of them your soul? I do not know; I did not sculpt you, child, for to know everything of you is to deny the mystery, and sap all life from you. I cannot see her soul, nor yours. I do not know what it is.
>"Then how did this happen?"
>You harnessed the greatest power I know, child. You imagined it.

>>58229025
Name 1 series where Escalation is explicitly a thing.
I'll start, Borne of Caution casually mentioned it when dealing with Mt Chimney

The fuck is ESCALATION anyways? Like the jump of power in the average shounen?

>>58229240
Tearing the heavens

>>58229268
Think, anon! If two trainers are having a high-stakes unmonitored pokemon battle, what's something they could do to ESCALATE the situation?

Reading BoC and half of the stuff the protagonist discovers is so dumb. Like there's no way this wouldn't be already widely known in a world with pokemon professors researching them

>>58229491
There could be a way. All Nutrtionman has to do is be the first one to invent... le scientific method.

I hate gravity training when MC is the one to discover it like if it wasn't the most obvious thing

Why yes I will have my pokemon train by simply battling each other with no special regimen or plan.
Pure adversity shall see them become strong.

>>58229522
Same. It's so narrow minded too, don't these juniors recognize that the body must endure more than one type of hardship to reach the peak? Gravity is nice, but it must be paired with lava pools mixed with poison and ghostly curses, otherwise your body's cultivation will be maladjusted. The man who trains by running around the mountain will eventually find that one of his legs has grown longer than the other, ruining his ability to run elsewhere.

>>58229491
In the actual Pokemon canon aren't professors discovering stuff all the time? Gen 2 especially since it's the first expansion so there's a lot of "obvious" stuff that they treat as the first time ever.

>>58229590
they're discovering stuff like new evolution with conditions though not basic stuff like feeding and calming down pokemon.

PTV has mostly the right idea, Oak is dead in that so must stuff never gets discovered which makes the isekai bullshit knowledge feel much more plausible.

>>58229590
That's just gamefreak laziness and incompetence. Originally there were only 150 known pokemon yet we now know that the current regions have had contact with each other for at least a couple hundred years.
"You'll buy it anyways" is why Gamefreak doesn't care.

>>58229612
I wouldn't call it outright laziness, but it's a bit of early-installment weirdness.
Still, at least Pokemon 2 was always expected to become a thing, so they should have mentioned "150 Pokemon in the whole Kanto" or something.

>>58229612
>>58229640
The guys making the lore decisions back then really didn't put any thought into it, which is largely why the anime writers had to make decisions by the seat of their pants that became mainstays in the franchise to this day (Pokemon saying their own names being a prime example). It wasn't until TPCI got established that they really formalized things, but it wouldn't surprise me if the same idiots doing the early work held tremendous sway over how the franchise has been portrayed for decades now. This is all largely to say I've always viewed the Pokemon brand as "missed potential, the franchise" even though it's the most successful multimedia franchise ever. If they had smart people running it, it would literally be unstoppable.

>>58229701
>If they had smart people running it, it would literally be unstoppable.
Lets be real, its already completely unstoppable and they know it.

>>58229752
You're not wrong unfortunately.

>>58229573
>The man who trains by running around the mountain will eventually find that one of his legs has grown longer than the other, ruining his ability to run elsewhere.

just run another lap, but going the other way around
every time is two laps, one forwards and one backwards, and the land itself will be seen from multiple perspectives.

>>58229772
>for every hour of 1000x gravity, you must spend an hour in .0001x gravity
being a non-psychic gravityfag must be awfully inconvenient.

>>58229778
One must have balance within themselves. If its a pain to achieve, all the more gain.

>>58229787
Or you can just feed your pokemon vitamins and bottle caps

>>58229240
My stories actually tend to deal with concepts of escalation, but in a non meme way. The heroes don't want to have to hurt others, but there is a fine line between being able to solve things non-violently and letting things get worse.

>>58229240
Pofag here Latest Prince of Poop Town chapter had quite a bit of it. Although I didn't want to use the meme word.

>>58229240
Technically there was a bit of Escalation in my fic when a grunt got frustrated the MC was putting up too good a fight in a Pokemon battle and might get them caught by the authorities, so he just cold-clocked him while his partner was preoccupied.

Probably doesn't truly count though because the higher up villains give zero shits about killing.

>>58229491
Speak of the devil. Nutritionslop actually updated today. The Giratina and Arceus namedrops are still retarded.

>>58229998
After taking the wrong turn on QQ, I stumbled upon your fic, Poanon. Is there any reason why you didn't host it in the nsfw section?

Has anyone been keeping up with Hard Enough? I dropped it after the Will fight.

One complaint I have about reincarnation isekai is the "why didn't they become a god at everything with a headstart."

I've decided the answer is, originally the age was 10, but was later raised to 15 because low age starts caused personalities to be affected. Red being silent all the time but not actually mute is given as an example. Plus positively, more trainers can raise pokemon stronger if they start later with a more stable foundation. Most people agree with this, given all the prior world conflicts and child soldiers during 'The Great War' and extremists afterwards. Team Rocket was a directly in response to the instability after the war, and later the reason the law was changed across the league.
I liked what IWTTS had going before everything was secretly gay

Enough grimdark to make it serious, an explanation for why trainers start later, avoids pedo concerns with 10 year olds (can use 18 or 15), and Mr Isekai can spend his childhood awakening aura and coming up with miscellaneous life skills the story can comedically bring up at random.
>can't train pokemon seriously underage
>can't battle because it's illegal and you get fined
>school is mostly a refresher and a reminder that MC is different
>focuses attention on mastering aura and learning random skills
>"Of course I know how to weave baskets with weeds, you never know when you'll need to weave a basket underwater."

>>58230543
I don’t want it to be lewd, and I assume it has to be in the lewd to be in the NSFW section. Posting it to Spacebattles (finally) in a couple chapters. Got good view counts considering it’s in the SFW section.

>>58230840
NTA but it doesn't "have to" be, a lot SB writers rip their SFW works straight into NSFW with a "no lewd" tag or even without any sort of indication and get away with it. A minority will be anal about it but QQ mods have repeatedly said they don't give a fuck about it.

>>58230806
>>focuses attention on mastering aura
Yeah but what is aura?

>>58230875
Aura is what surrounds a trainer when they don't shower for a long time. It can be overpowering to people with weak auras, which is why the league has banned aura wielders.

>>58230866
Good to know. I debated adding some sex scenes in QQ and as Ao3 side stories. Maybe I do a sex scene in like 10-15 chapters and ask QQ mods to move it when that happens. I’m still really pleased with the engagement on the red headed step child part of the site.

>>58230933
Just saw “When is a Spoon a Sword” is in the NSFW section and there isn’t even a romantic subplot. Lolwut

>>58231071
The best sort of malicious compliance I've seen is writing porn omakes of their fic and then posting it in their thread, bonus if its a canon intimate relationship so they look like a dickhead if they complain about the nsfw thread finally getting nsfw.

>>58229778
What kind of advantage can zero gravity training offer? I was thinking about what astronauts or athletes do underwater but water itself has water resistance which you wouldn't normally encounter in a battle.

>>58231658
>which you wouldn't normally encounter in a battle
You'll do it in the new gen game, Pokemon Atlantis

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Is a Pokemon capable of powerful mass hypnosis a good case for loicenses and regulations existing? Not everyone should be running around with a brainwashing biological weapon, after all. Just the governmentment :)

>>58231965
>Malamar’s brain has become enlarged as a result of Mega Evolution. Greatly enhanced psychic power overflows from its body, emitting a bright glow. This vividly colored light further amplifies the Pokémon’s hypnotic abilities, allowing it to freely overwrite the personalities or even memories of others—a terrifying power that can make someone seem like an entirely different person.

>Its glowing, undulating tendrils are able to pick up on the feelings of those around it. It prefers battling with efficiency, using its powerful intellect to analyze the situation with levelheadedness as it fights. Mega Malamar views others—even Pokémon Trainers—as its pawns. If it disagrees with an order given to it by a Trainer, it will sometimes respond by hypnotizing them, making this an incredibly difficult Pokémon to interact with.
What a fucking asshole

>>58230875
Aura is the distortion reflection that extends from the past forward. It's why aura guardians have those time flowers, they are just recordings across time.

Human's don't have a type that defines them, so they use their 'human aura' to manipulate other auras. Aura vision is typically limited and thus you get psychics and hexers, but a pure human could technically master everything if they don't unbalance themselves. That's why arceus uses plates externally like tools instead of a part of himself.

>>58231965
Isn't Malamar evil, as in real evil and not "muh trainer is evil not me, I'm just loyal"?

But yeah it should

>>58232591
it literally has the word evil in french in its name

>>58232600
So do dark types in nip but they kept saying that evil Pokémon aren't a thing

>>58232591
the "no pokemon is evil" thing is just to get satan fearing boomers to shut up

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So you guys think we're getting a new psychic human?

>>58232852
nope, they invented vaccines for that

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Are crossovers really flawed as a concept? Or is just the execution?

>>58233186
Execution.

>>58232093
Purely socioeconomic factors btw

>>58233186
All things are execution. No concept can't be done well. Just what people consider a success will be different. Some of the best stories, shows, and games have stupid sounding concepts. It just goes unnoticed because execution is done so well. Four mutated giant turtles are also teenagers and ninjas? A man dresses up as a bat to solve crime? Monsters with godly powers are caught by children for sport? The list goes on.

>>58233186
What you're experiencing is a disconnect between visual and written. Anything can be good when visually seen, but you the READER (not writer) have to create your own images. That introduces issues as not everyone can do that well. Imagination is a skill like any other.

>>58233039
Vaccines cause psychic powers idiot, wake up mareeple.

>>58233666
Is that why Psychic is strong against Poison? They use their jabs against them?

>>58233705
Yeah. But the pokemon world is so sanitized vaccines have become obsolete. The few who get their hands on the remaining vaccines develop psychic powers.

>>58233768
I think you're thinking of captain america serum

>>58231148
Post an example, I feel like this is a perfect activity to engage in for a thread like this.

>>58231965
>look at it
>you lose, possibly wake up a week later with your kidneys missing
How the fuck is the average trainer supposed to counter this shit?

>>58234350
By being stupid

>>58233186
One of my favorite fics, to the point it got me to cry a few times, was RWBY crossover. Was just simply what if the RWBY characters were Trainers. Simple and to the point.
I agree with the other anons. All about execution. What I found is the issue with crossovers most of the time is that they become way too big for their own good by trying to mix-up EVERYTHING and secondly heavy focus on powerscaling faggotry.

>>58234455
>proclaims feels for a fic
>doesn't post the fic

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>>User has been banned from thread and given a temp ban from the site. Keep the discussion on topic, if you have a complaint about the regulations, post them in a different category
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forum chapters aren't bad
What's bad is when they stick dumb shit like this in.
This is just poor writing. "Oh boo hoo you said something I don't like, bannn~". Absolutely garbage writing. The chapter would have been all the better if they didn't overuse garbage like this.
What a terrible way to ruin immersion by making everyone act like a bunch of reddit spacebattle mod faggots

Even jokingly, the joke falls flat, and 6 times? 6?

>>58234594
Boldores and Broomsticks (is the only RWBY crossover I know).

>>58234610
The more that forum chapters become a thing, the more each writer that includes one will have to up the ante to make theirs unique, meaning they'll just get weirder and weirder.

>>58234681
>they'll just get weirder and weirder.
That makes sense
also it had shit formatting. Like what the fuck, you're going for the easiest chapter imaginable and you can't be assed to format it?

>>58234685
It's not surprising. Anyone thinking that forum chapter joke is worth typing out likely doesn't understand a number of other things. Is the Nemona SI fic?

>>58234699
yeah lol, I actually like it, but I think the chapters have been getting a little off track.
It wouldn't surprise me if this chapter was to buy more time to write actual stuff. I enjoyed muscle diancie though, that shit is hilarious. Sounds like something that would be joked about but never actually added.

Totally fair, but just format it. I might have overlooked the mod stuff if it actually was formatted, but they stuck out like sore thumbs when reading.

>>58234685
To be fair, depending on the site it can be a real pain to format. FFN in particular is awful about it because it automatically removes any line that has too many special characters in it.

>>58234737
Isn't there a special importer, or is that AO3 or something?

>>58234754
FFN has an import button but it will still erase lines that trigger its special character sensibilities.
IIRC, even something as simple as ------------------------ will get axed.

>>58234681
>Boldores and Broomsticks
I read this one, didn't like it

>>58234737
I've definitely noticed FFN's formatting will have glitches that aren't found on other site's versions of my stories. It's likely why Ao3 is a favorite place to post for writers, it's the most consistently seamless place to post.
>>58234720
Not trying to hate on the story overall, there's not a lot of good content in the fandom. This also screams "filler for word count" to me. Updating twice a week with consistency with the wordcounts the author does would be massive undertaking.

>>58234806
>Updating twice a week with consistency with the wordcounts the author does would be massive undertaking.
Yeah, can't fault someone for not wanting to do that when I myself don't want to do that.

Pacing is telling me I need to end the chapter after a pretty heavy scene, but just a scene later I'd have the gnarliest cliffhanger/reveal of the story so far that I'd really like to end the chapter on.

The writer's dilemma.

>>58235300
if its a good cliffhanger, extend the chapter a bit for it. Cliffhangers aren't bad when they're backed by extra content. It feels less of a ripoff and more like something bigger is coming.

>>58235544
It is (likely) a top five cliffhanger in the entirety of the story. I realized there's a kinda weird scene I have to throw into the next few chapters anyways that could be thrown into a short, three scene chapter. This current chapter has a lot of meet and greets with new characters, and before the cliffhanger happens I'd have to introduce a bunch of new characters again which will likely be overwhelming. So I think I'll just go with a shorter chapter than usual, putting the weird scene in there to pad out the word count before dropping the cliffhanger.

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Should Elite 4 have overtly elaborate rooms based around their personality and type, or is this a waste of League resources?

>>58232093
>>58231965
This ones mega flaw is that it traps and betrays you

>>58236248
Man, Paldea really is the weakest, most lame region, huh?

>>58236331
Just hypnotize your Malamar into loving you by using your loyal Hypno and Aegislash (that you previously had said Malamar hypnotize) bro

>>58236331
just have a dark type with a bug move to rape his ass if he tries anything funny
bitch can't learn miracle eye

>>58236331
also they have brain tumor

>>58236331
just eat payapa berries and wear black glasses

>>58234610
you missed
>*Banned: Off topic and general signs of offensive attitude here and on other threads
>general signs
>of offensive attitude
the worst one

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>>58234610
Spacebattles? By the way years ago, like a lot, a certain group used to terrorize stories in FFN about mass reports because they had underaged romance, even those without anything sexual, and a lot of people did delete their stories thanks to those cunts.

How do Grass and Ground types deal with winter?

>>58236630
Migration, hibernation, tough it out, huddle together, contract the local Fire type(s) for warmth. learn a Fire type move (Sunny Day).

>>58236630
hibernation

>>58236630
Winter only becomes a problem if someone shows up and magically weaponizes the cold, but since everyone loves Grass types this usually doesn't happen.

For you writefags, how do you summarize your main character in a single sentence?

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Guns

>>58237161
literally me

>>58237161
trapped and betrayed

>>58237161
WEAKEST but ACTUALLY the STRONGEST

>>58237161
By describing what they are thinking.

'He realized today was going to be one of those days, and nobody was even going to be paying him.'

'He didn't know what had driven his friend to this, only what was driving himself to stand in his way.'

'He had nothing left other than the voice of vengeance that he could no longer drown out.'

So what's the difference between arrogance, pride and confidence when writing a powerful trainer?

What do you guys think, is it better to plan out the story in its entirety before beginning to write? Or is it enough to have a core concept and characters that you can start writing and let the story flow naturally?

>>58237419
Results. Arrogance is just pride that can't measure up to reality, pride is just confidence that has consumed a person.

>>58237420
Second one is my style. I go 'hey this is neat lets see where it goes' and then just see what kind of story unfolds from the pieces I've placed on the board.

>>58237161
"These fragments I have shored against my ruins."

>>58237161
Aura Guardian Crashout

>>58237471
Reads like a poetic way to say he shoves broken glass up his ass.
>>58237420
Do what gets you results, planning is worthless if you don't execute any of it. Some people spend so much fucking time planning, rewriting and "world building" that they don't get anything actually done. Don't be like me.

>>58237161
Pessimistic, critical of others, and cowardly, yet always putting himself in danger for someone else's sake.

>>58237161
Hospitalized his friend and almost killed his cheating whore ex girlfriend with his bare hands at the age of 16.

>>58237568
Jord is that you?

>>58237510
Lmao, it would something he could accidentally do when going through a psychosis.

>>58237161
Kind idiot with a bleeding heart, who may or may not be more than a little crazy.

>>58236342
...but actually the strongest.

>>58237400
Oh I forgot one.

'What if Bulbasaur could learn Psystrike?'

>>58237420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbMihK3tFMY&list=PLH3mK1NZn9QqOSj3ObrP3xL8tEJQ12-vL&index=2
Watch this playlist, you don't need to agree with everything but it might get your cogs rotating.

>>58237161
For the deuteragonist:
Local loser's pet autistic man tries to not get the living shit beaten out of him.

>>58237711
Maybe among the junior leagues.

>>58236248
This is just a video game extravagance.

>>58237960
>Geeta says, protecting her embezzlement of Paldea's funds using the fact no Paldea trainer would ever be strong enough to challenge another region's elite 4 to verify the truth.

>>58236248
Do these rooms get used at all except for when Challengers come in? Do you figure they might rent them out for parties or hold meetings in them or something?

>>58228579
ORAS was fucking PEAK and you know it.

>>58237967
But it’s true. You’re not going to have a battle on top of a king sized bed are you?

>>58237991
Are you kidding? Having a fight in a fancy bedroom would be awesome.
>why yes, I do want all my battlefields to be a boring flat rectangle.
I bet your nutrition is raw nutrient paste devoid of flavor or style.

>>58237161
A humble disciple of the sword

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>sword
Weak ass faggot

>>58238064
What is a baton but a sword for someone who can't be trusted with a blade?

>>58237420
It really depends on your style of storytelling. My plans always tend to escalate more and more, so in order for things to make sense, I need to know the details of a lot of future events. I plan a lot of shit out in advance plot-wise, but I try to keep it organic by just setting the characters out on a certain path, I know their endpoint, but I get to have fun and explore character moments in their own time. The only problem with this is if the character moments might be something unappealing early on in their arc and you lose readers because they don’t know your big plan for the character.


Current WIP I’ve had a lot of character moments I thought would take place later in the story that the characters decided “nope, this is happening NOW MFer,” and I think the project’s better for it.

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Oh yeah, I finished another chapter of PokeNormal. Finally reached one of the plot twists.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/66247705/chapters/180382906

Pic unrelated.

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Food

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>literally taught Pokémon World Humans how to make concrete.

>>58238690
I call bullshit.
It's not hard to discover mixing water and dirt makes mud you can use to build stuff. Birds, termites, and wasps have been doing the same for millions of years.

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>>58238690

>>58239127
Which is why Conkeldurr figured it out more than 2000 years ago during antiquity. You're welcome btw.

>>58239127
are you saying Pokedex entries lie?

>>58239459
Unfortunately the franchise doesn't give us much to work with. We barely know how most of these creatures live in their own ecosystem.

>>58239501
I think a lot of the heavy lifting is done by inferring things based on how the creatures they are based on live. Like we don't need to know how a pidgey builds its nest because we already know how they do that. Its unique things about the pokemon like pidgey's ability to decimate an entire legion of men with just a flap of its wings that the pokedex bothers explaining.

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>Ditto can take whatever form it wants and switch between attacks and abilities as it fucking feels like and reshape the environment to its liking
Ditto is...the strongest.

>>58240037
funny how the latest Silver SI chapter had Mew doing basically that

Hmm, perhaps i should make an SI that mains Ditto...

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Pick your city buster weapon

>>58241298
Pidgey of coarse, goodol reliobla.,m;,'.mlnbuvy

>>58241479
Damn the fearow acolytes got him.

>>58241479
Bro, tf? Did Noctowl get to him?

>>58239459
Even the Pokedex isn't sure with the "It is thought" statement.

There's a lot of discussion about plot B or oraganization C or character D, but how do you write the relationship between your MC and their Pokemon?
There are a few archetypes like a Pokemon who refuses to obey (Charizard), but anything less discussed?

>>58242346
Come up with a basic quirk or personality. It doesn't have to be in depth. Pokemon are basically animals and often expect trainers to be the trainer/master.

Some pokemon are like children to a parent
Some are like friends to a friend
Others are like sporting team members, being traded around for high level play
Others just find comfort in company or having an trainer/master deal with the things

I was writing a scene where the MC catches a weedle because it attached itself to his back hoping to be caught, and he decides to just roll with it

>>58240037
I think it's a good time to dust off my Ditto isekai fic I started writing months ago

>>58242346
My MC handling their Pokemon is where he's most competent and least of a trainwreck. His first partner is sort of like a bratty little brother to him, so he's become very proficient at managing his Pokemon's moods and keeping patient with them in a way he can't with people. He lacks the equipment of an ace trainer but is always using what he has available to give them a diet to promote growth, and plenty of physical and intellectual exercise that teaches them how to use their bodies more creatively than their instincts would.

For their parts, his main partner absolutely adores him and returns the brotherly affection, though he DOES think he's a bit of a wimp - he imagines himself as the one who has to pick up his spack and kick him into gear.

I had an idea for an isekai story.
MC is contacted not by Arceus, but by Shiny Arceus who sends them into Arceus world for some reason.

>>58243009
Is Shiny Arceus racist towards the other Arceus arms and want to use isekai gaijin to destroy them?

>>58243123
If you fuck an Arceus, does that mean Aus is gooning himself using you?