They don't help underrated pokemon, they replace them. Sometimes, it fails to do even that by making a shittier version of the original. And it's a slap in the face when only the regional variant gets a cross-evo, making the original even more worthless by comparison. Not to mention that it's just lazy padding, because why make a new species with new interesting ideas when you can slap those ideas onto the same old pokemon and resell them over and over again, followed with immense praise? So, why do people want more of this, even more so with fan favorite pokemon?
>>58229337idk, I ignore them because they're garbage
>>58229337No, the most overrated gimmick is megas, everyone knows this.
its fun to put a new spin on old designs
>>58229352Some either weren't needed or done poorly, like turning Linoone into a KISS reference.
I don't care about battle viabilityI just love my Kanto bros getting foreign wives to start cozy families with
>>58229368well yeah sometimes you get shit designs that goes for anythingbut turning marowak into a tiki dancer and muk into an oil slick were cool
>>58229337it's just funfeels like some cool world buildingand sure, it can be a cheap way to make something people will like, just take an old design and make it cuter/cooler or something
>>58229368I WAS MADE FOR LOVING YOU BABY
>>58229337Seeing these side by side like this makes me think G Farfetch'd could've just been a mid stage between Farfetch'd and Sirfetch'd - with the majority of the changes upon evolution being in the leek itself
>>58229368Imagine if Unova had a regional variant of a older pokemon that was based on Michael Jackson or Tupac.
>>58229337The same can be said of Mega Evolution, Cross-gen Evolutions and other such things.Just directly buff the fucking mons and do more than "add 10 Special Defense to a mon who wasn't really using that stat in the first place."
>>58229351spbp/thread
>>58229459Not necessarily, since those are directly added to the pokemon's evolutionary line as opposed to being adjacent to it like regionals. Tho, there is the downside of getting a dumb evolution that permanently tarnishes the original's whole line. Either way, I agree that they need to start directly buffing mons.
>>58229337Some are cool, others like your pic are wasted space.
>>58229337>They don't help underrated pokemon, they replace themCompletely agree. I wish they made them their own separate line and just saying they are descendants of the original Pokémon. Kinda like Wugtrio and Toedscool but acknowledging they were a variant but with their own dex number.Why do paradox Pokémon get to vmbe their own thing and Alolan Marowak is a specific regional evolution instead of an awesome branched evolution that it should have always been?
Reminder that Pokemon variants was a hot thing among fan artists a year before Alolan forms were announced.Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.
They're mostly cool. You're just miserable fucks.
they should make an item that lets you swap between regional forms of a mon any given turn
>>58229337I'd put it on case by case basis, The fun thing with them in the ideal cases is that USUALLY the design is reminiscent of the original and keeps what your like about it, BUT you get a new Type-Combo so now you can use your favorite and "your favorite with a twist" together.Basically "Fuck yeah, TWO CAKES!"Plus the majority of Regionals are kinda shitmons regardless and more for story variety.
>>58229337>uaaa waaahh uwaaahh uaaaathat's what you sound like to me. have some fucking joy in your life.
>>58229337Fuck you. He's cute, the end
>>58229795BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
they are the only GOOD gen 6+ gimmickthey actually stay across gens without needing to wait for a special side-game to bring them back temporarily, they are fun, they let them add more mons without bloating the pokedex further, they almost always have really interesting type combinationsliterally what reason could you even have to call them overrated? YOU'RE overrated
Fuck Galarian Weezing.
>>58229795Disgusting.
>>58229910okay, bet. which hole?
>>58229429YOU WERE MADE FOR LOVING ME
>>58229911You have no soul and are no fun at parties >>58229882Look at his little tongue he's so adorable
>>58229655Some of us have standards, peasantWe DEMAND quality and will RIGHTFULLY ensure EVERYONE knows just how DOGSHIT the slop that they eat up is
>>58229337>I'm retarded, I'm seething, I'm stupidOk
>>58229999>Some of us have standards, peasantIf you had them in the first place, you wouldn't have touched Pokémon in the first place as incompatible with those same standards. But as you're on the arsehole of the internet's containment board for the kiddyshit series along with the rest us tagnuts, you're just showing your hypocrisy. Series never gave a fuck for adults and was always a lagging, lacking game series compared to studios shitting out games for teens and older. But you didn't give a fuck about that then, because lookit the funny pikachu hehehehe.
Regional forms should always have a new evolution or a method of evolution. Example:>Vulpix > Ninetales>Alolan Vulpix > Ninetails > ???One uses a Fire Stone, the other evolves by leveling up. Stuff like Galarian Meowth are fine with evolving into a new Pokemon. Stuff like Galarian Weezing shouldn't exist, but instead, in Galar, normal Weezing evolve into a new Pokemon with a new move or item. By Hoenn, you should have had stuff like Alolan Raichu and Alolan Grimer already, with Grimer evolving into a new Pokemon separate from Muk. While I do like the concept, I always saw regional forms as GameFreak or even TPC trying to save time and money by remixing older designs due to 3D modeling being more extensive. Convergent Pokemon are in the same category, just another remixed design without actually remixing it. Everyone should be pushing for Gen II-IV evolutions, those were the right way to go, and I don't give a fuck about muh designs, that was the natural process when a new region had an old Pokemon.Unrelated, this is also hurting a lot of Fakemon, everyone is now taking old Pokemon and adding some theme to their designs and calling -ian so and so.
>>58229891>they actually stay across gensYet, where are most Galarian forms in SV?
>>58229368this is better than Hoenn Linoone
>>58229337they've been proven to fix poor designs
>>58229337>>58231471
>>58231471>>58231472Both downgrades
>>58231480Zoro is, H. Samurott's an equal to Samurott (I don't think Samurott's a bad design, before anyone gets ideas).
>>58231471Imagine being impressed by an evil twin
I think the only regionals to not outclass the original were Dugtrio and Sandslash.
>>58231471Its design is the fucking same. The only reason people like it better is because it’s not a complete shitter in the farce that is PvP
>>58232878It's less fat at least, which I think is a big improvementit's also kinda cool and funny how it's like the edgiest pokemon there is
your favorite was deem worthy enough to get a mega and not a regional replacement…right anon?
>>58231674>OU vs ZUnah it's true Japanese samurai vs American weeaboo
>>58229337SwSh did a shitton of damage to the perception of Regional Variants by handling them like shit. Making regional variants have evolutions that the normal ones can't access basically makes it so that you can't use your "OG Bros" like you wanted because they aren't optimal for the game that you're playing them in. Alola only really had one Pokemon with this issue (Muk) while almost every SwSh regional variant, especially with a new evolution, just be an objectively better take on the original monIt's how they were allowed to only get away with two regular regional variants in Paldea, and Paldean Tauros is also still an objective upgrade over regular Tauros. Whenever Game Freak gets tired of a gimmick they try to wean people off of it by including it less and less before it disappears entirely. They effectively did it with gender differences and Megas, they're definitely trying to do it now with Regionals
>>58233720I do feel like regionals are about the level of popularity where they could reasonably drop them without to much blowback while also being popular enough to bring back as some easy nostalgia bait in a few gens. Like Megas
>>58229351Megas >turns pokemon who get them into effectively minor gods and grant them eternal shilling outside the main series Regionals>recolored cousin that either steals the spotlight from the rest o the family its its good, or drags the entire family down if it sucks
>>58233720>Alola only really had one Pokemon with this issue (Muk)fun fact: kanto muk actually has a niche in gen 9 ou that alolan muk doesn't have due to its sticky hold ability. So it has that going for it.
>>58233915ah yes, because audino has been shilled so much since it got a mega amarite
>>58233915recolored cousin is more fun and interesting than literally the same guy but spiky
>>58229368It's also based on the more aggressive european Black badgers.
>>58233915Megas>push button to turn shillmon into an unstoppable god, effectively throwing all tactic and strategy away just for the sake of CHARIZAAAARD
>>58233432>worthy enoughYou and I both know Megas will be gone again just like before. At best we'll see them stick around for one gen and that'll be it.Then again, regional variants aren't guaranteed to return anymore either, thanks to the dexcut shit making each new gen some kind of gamble for whether or not you'll be "allowed" to use any of your favorites. SwSh literally cut 100% of my favorites, though a few returned in the DLC
>>58229337I think it's great in concept but I do agree that regional evos are bs.
>>58233915I still say it nearly constantly for the last few gens, but they really should've only given Megas to shitmons and starters because duh, it should've been an instant "no" the second someone suggested giving 400+ BST Pokemon Megas.It should've been a lore thing about how some underpowered Pokemon felt the love/connection with their trainers so much that they'd become strong enough to hold their own in fights while remaining their trainer's "lapdog" outside of battles.Hell, make it so it only triggers when they faint. You stomp some kid's pet Rattata in one shot and it suddenly Mega evolves, heals to full, and now has a BST of like 550, but can't switch out and maybe it can't heal either.(Yes, Rattata would get one just for the Trainer Joey meme. Pikachu would get one too.)>>58230215New evolutions for the regional forms implies they will also end up being way stronger than the original, which always feels dirty as hell to me.It's like, OG Zigzagoon-line fans get the short end of the stick since there's an entire evo and 100 (one hundred) BST locked out from them that they can never get access to because there's no Hoennian-Obstagoon or whatever that'd be called, and Linoone will never get a 100 BST buff to make up for it.
I love Regionals a lot but Sirfetch'd really could've just evolved from normal Farfetch'd.
>>58236216that would have made sense.
>could've given a underlooked fishmon a cool and powerful cross evo to make them relevant>nah, just make a regional variant that can evolve, instead.Wtf were they thinking?
>>58237197Fun fact, white stripe isn't a regional. It's just a third form.
>>58237197I think it's made even stranger by the fact that it can evolve into one of two different colors that happen to match the existing fish. So pointless.
>>58236216It's true, but I personally feel Galar Farfetch'd is way cooler than the original, so I kind of just don't care that much.
>>58237423There’s a gold and purple Basculin?
>>58237423>>58237433you two are both color blind lmao, basculegion is either pink or white
>>58237475My Basculegion has gold stripes
>>58235823That's why I said they should have the original Pokemon in a new region, but they evolve with an item from said region. I hope I never see a Kantonian/Johtonian/Hoennian version of a newer Pokemon, that's even lower hanging fruit.
>>58237284interestingly it's called Hisuian Basculin in the TCG
