What other region is the most pandered to outside of Kanto? I feel there's a strong case to make for Sinnoh and Unova
>>58229574unova for sure>gigantamax is only for kanto and galar pokémon>garbodor is the sole exception>multiple unova evos or regionals in pla and gen 9>all the unova callbacks in xy (curious how no one complains about the other regions getting mentioned, only the kanto callbacks)>whole unova themed mini area in the sv dlcno doubt gamefreak does this because unova fans are basically genwunners 2.0
>Pokemon company makes pokemon stuff>WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?
>>58229611>garbodor is the sole exceptionYeah, and Audino is the only unova mon that had a mega in ORAS>multiple unova evos or regionals in pla and gen 9This. H-Goodra, H-Avalugg, Annihilape >all the unova callbacks in xy (curious how no one complains about the other regions getting mentioned, only the kanto callbacks)This. Such as the mega Lucario and the jubilife music easter egg>whole unova themed mini area in the sv dlcWhole Sinnoh themed new spin off title>no doubt gamefreak does this because unova fans are basically genwunners 2.0But enough about sperms
>>58229615>comes to pokemon board to discuss pokemon>gets mad about people discussing pokemon
>>58229574plass was basically a unova shill tech demo and bdsp was made with spite
>>58229611>all the unova callbacks in xy (curious how no one complains about the other regions getting mentioned, only the kanto callbacks)Callbacks are expectation of a franchise. Seeing it evolve and grow with more of a varied identity that doesn't rely solely on the originals. it's fun to see everyone's memories matter even if they aren't as popular as other memories. When Galar does shit like "these are the most popular Pokemon in the region!" or introduces a Charizard Giga while putting it on a pedestal above the other two starters, it comes across as sad and desperateThat being said ever notice how Hoenn pandering dried up entirely the minute Masuda left. We still get tons of love for Johto, Sinnoh and Unova but Hoenn is just fucking gone now. Z-A doesn't even have any new Hoenn Megas
>>58229574Sinnoh is Kanto for zoomers. DaiPa Kids is a fanterm for a reason.
>>58229627>Yeah, and Audino is the only unova mon that had a mega in ORASORAS was too busy focusing on, you know, hoenn?>This. H-Goodra, H-Avalugg, Annihilapeonly two kalos pokémon, and you still resorted to using a genwun pokémon, proving my point> This. Such as the mega Lucarionot a fair comparison, lucario is the most popular sinnoh pokémon>and the jubilife music easter eggspecifically from PLA, literally the previous mainline gameshould I mention the castelia city easter egg then?>Whole Sinnoh themed new spin off titlewhat?>But enough about spermsand there it isyou unovafags hate kalos just like your genwun forerunners hated hoennkalos isn’t even my favorite region>>58229668>spoilermy suspicion is that’s because someone in gamefreak is still seething at the “battle frontier project has started” meme, so they haven’t wanted to touch hoenn since swshI know this is pure, concentrated copium, but I’m really hoping for delta emerald on the switch 2 that adds back the battle facilities from emerald
>>58229611>unova fans are basically genwunners 2.0That's Hoenn and you know it. They were the first set of new kids to be old enough to type on the internet and they've sucked off their ugly ass game ever since.
>>58229574Sinnoh and Unova are getting a lot right now because kids who grew up with them are nostalgic adults now.We're already moving on to Kalos pandering with Legends ZA now that Kalos kids are old enough to have nostalgia.
>>58229574Kinda Johto, but i dunno if i would call it direct pandering so much as it coasts on being the "natural" follow up to Kanto and traditionally kinda ending up as "Bonus Mons" in part due being in that position in Gen 3 (Since it had Gen3 and Gen1 remakes, so Johto mons got to be the Additional Content) and it is usually not in a positive way.Houndour/Houndoom gets a lot of mileage as a VILLAIN JOBBER for example, even getting to be one in SV.
>>58229945>ORAS was too busy focusing on, you know, hoenn?Yeah, with Mega Pidgeot and Lopunny.>not a fair comparison, lucario is the most popular sinnoh pokémonAnd? He basically took all the spotlight from Kalos' own mons>specifically from PLA, literally the previous mainline gameI meant this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax6S4niOzlY>what?I meant PLA
>>58229611Genwunners 2.0 are definitely Kalosfags with how much they they try to revise history
>>58230057>Genwunners>Revising historyFuckin lmao
>>58229956Do paradoxes count as Unova forms? If so, then they also count for Johto
>>58230015If anything being seem as Bonus Mons for Kanto, hurt gen2 mons. Johto Pokémon were was probably the least shilled of the first 5 gens until very recently with PLA and it’s telling that unlike every other region Johto has no shillmons side from Umb/Espeon (ironically they seem to be the most shilled of the Eeveelutions), Suicune and maybe Ttar. Ironically within the last couple years Hoeen seems to be the one be one laying behind but having top tier shillmons like Blaizken, Gardevior, Rayquaza, and having the most megas will always keep it relevant.
>>58230110>until very recently with PLAThat's a return to form, Sinnoh already was mostly evolutions to Johto and Hoenn shitmons. Really it's shit like Hoenn and Unova going "NO THE REGION SHOULD BE MOSTLY NEW POKEMON" that hurt region identities like Johto, Sinnoh or even Kalos because those ones were more so about buffing old mons than being a brand new slate. We didn't get cross-gens again until fucking Galar and not PROPER cross-gen evos not attached to Regional Forms until PALDEA
>>58229574Having its own remakes intentionally sabotaged in favor of propping up Masuda's fanfic is hardly what I'd call "pandering"
>>58229611>unova fans are basically genwunners 2.0this, they are probably the most rabid gen fanboys & fangirls of all and more numerous than johtoddlers, you'd have to be dumb not to be exploiting their devotion to it for money at every opportunitythe way I see it borts are practically the entire generation of zoomers, it's a lot of money left on the table to not pander to them regardless of what older fans think of it
>>58229574Its because Kanto and Unova have the biggest rosters
>>58231463We know you have already pre ordered ZA, yawnie
>>58229574Objectively Sinnoh
>>58231474>make criticism of unova fanboys>get called yawnfagyou guys have anything else? or is that your only preprogrammed response?bogeymen don’t work forever, you should come up with a new one
>>58229574Lol so much shilling bro, I’m so happy I got to pick Piplup as my starter and fly over the empty plains with Starly…oh wait
>>58231487>1 new mega if the leaks are true>bdsp basically outsourced to pajeets who didnt give a shit>no paradox >no regionals>basically cucked out of their own spinoff set in the past with every ride pokemon, noble pokemon, and even the starters coming from other regions >the only region to have a return in the anime or pokespe during its remakeYou’re joking.
>>58231599>the only region to have a return*not have a return
>>58231572>you guys have anything else?you either forgot or weren't around for the now-retired "discord" epithets
>>58231767oh yeah, the discord ran by that brazilian teen?completely forgot about that
>>58229634I have learned at this point to outright dismiss most of the tardbabble on this board.Its people just pretending to be stupid
>>58229611I feel like Hoenn still has more pandering than Unova's.>has the second most megas prior to ZA>has the third most cross-evos >gets paradox forms for pokemon who already have megas and Hariyama>gardevoir shilling so bad that it becomes another champion's ace pokemon(only other champion like this for Kanto was Leon and Charizard)>only main legendary trio to get new forms outside of their region(100% Zygarde first debuted in Kalos in the anime)>regi trio gets the most new members out of any legendary group outside of their regionUnova pandering have only just been turned up since Gen 8, excluding that one Mega Audino. But Hoenn had so much pandering since Gen 4 and no one ever dares to speak ill about it. Also, listing crossgen references don't count when every region has crossgen references and there were plenty for Hoenn in every game that came after Gen 3.
>>58232471>only other champion like this for Kanto was Leon and CharizardThe wild part is it did this BEFORE Charizard did. Hoenn really was the franchise's darling until it just outright fucking disappears from the series. There's still a handful of references, but stuff like Iron Valiant is more Gardevoir pandering and in general I think Hoenn is now just being treated as the Gardevoir region with an occasional reference to Blaziken or the Regis lately. Game Freak are more willing to directly reference Johto, Sinnoh or Unova over Hoenn now. Maybe they just burnt out or maybe Masuda finally leaving meant they can leave the franchise's awkward growing pains behind
>>58233253Neither champion from gen 3 uses it though, so gardevoir is only used by one champion (i just wasn’t a champion from its home region)Charizard is used by both Blue and Leon and is the only mon to serve as the ace for 2 different champions