2 > 3 > 4 > 1

>>58237343
I > III > II >>> IV

>>58237343
>IV
>Oldgen
You think you're so clever, zoomie.

>>58237350
this will be the most unusual and inexplicable of the thread

It's a tough one. I really like Hoenn so that comes first, then Johto, Sinnoh and Kanto, but all are really high tier for me.

>>58237343
3 > 1 >>> 2 > 4

>>58237343
III > I > IV > II

>>58237353
>>58237356
>>58237365
>G4 antiing
wherefore

>>58237343
3,4,1,2

1 >>> 3 > 2 > 4

>>58237343
IV > III > II > I

>>58237343
4 > 3 > 2 > 1

3 > 4 >> 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1

>>58237350
fpbp, objectively correct
>>58237356
they stopped being oldgen once they left japan. gen 4 is oldgen

>leaving out the magnum opus from classics

Hi yawnie

>>58237343
5>4>1>2

Gen 4 is not old gen. Any gen that's not on a Gameboy console can't be considered "oldgen."

>>58237635
gen 3 has more in common with gen 4 than gen 2. you just want gen 3 to be the cutoff point because it's the one you started with.

>>58237639
fuck off gamebitch don't associate gen 4 with gen 3

>>58237639
That don't mean anything.
>uh new gen references prior gen
Of course it would. It's literally tradition. That's like saying Gen 5 is old gen because it had Cynthia in Undella Town, a Sinnoh Battle Frontier brain as a Elite Four member and a Cave that leads to Sinnoh.

>>58237648
>>58237654
what does gen 4 do that gen 3 does not that makes it nugen
and don't say the physical/special split because that's wrong

>>58237343
3 > 2 > 1. DS games don't count, but if they did Platinum > Emerald > The Rest

>>58237343
5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
unironically

>>58237343
II > I > IV > III

Gen 3 is so fucking boring and the sprites are the worst in the series, it's ugly to look at at all times.

>>58237677
Gen 4 was actually the first 2.5D gen, with the first instances of 3d models in Pokemon games can be traced back to it. See here.
https://models.spriters-resource.com/ds_dsi/pokemondiamondpearl/

>>58237343
II > IV

Gen I and III aren't possible to rank without bias, Millennials were alive during the Pokemon boom and Gen III is zoomer's first Pokemon.

>>58237714
how does that make it nugen

>>58237517
>>58237588
>>58237689
malding zoomers

>>58237343
The games or the regions themselves?
Games: 4 > 2 > 3 > 1
Regions: 2 > 3 > 1 > 4

>>58237677
They're just Hoenntards sperging.
Really Gen 3 doesn't belong with 1 and 2 either but that doesn't fit the agenda.

>>58237723
>nugen
1. Contains 3D models
2. Not on any Gameboy systems.

>>58237639
That’s because gen 2 is shit, gen 4 is too, but considering platinum it’s miles ahead of mold and seethver

>>58237733
Crystal had color which makes it the official start of nugen.

In order of how many times I've replayed them it's
I>>>>>>>>>>II > IV > III

I've probably played Red/Blue/Yellow about 10 times, gen II a few times and the others once.

>>58237745
People try to be hipster about it since Genwunning from the company has reached an annoying peak but people greatly overestimate just how quick and easy it is to just pick up and play it.

I could never see myself ever replaying something like XY and especially Sun/Moon because you're trapped in cutscene hell.

>>58237733
>2. Not on any Gameboy systems.
why does this matter

>>58237756
Why does any of this matter? XY is 12 years, still considered "new" by /vp/'s standards. But say DP, the game most lurkers here grew up with, doesn't technically align with it's predecessors due to being from a different console family, and watch /vp/ will lose their minds.

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>>58237706
literally has the best sprite of all time for your pseudo toddie

>>58237754
hello 2019 time traveler

>>58237769
Nu, retard.

>>58237769
>DP, the game most lurkers here grew up with, doesn't technically align with it's predecessors due to being from a different console family
why does this matter

>>58237343
Games: 4 > 2 > 3 > 1
Region design: 2 > 3 > 4 > 1
Gym leaders: 1 > 2 > 4 > 3
Elite 4: 2 > 4 > 1 > 3
Champion: 4 > 1 > 2 > 3
New Pokemon: 3 > 1 > 2 > 4

For me, it'd be something like 3, 2, 1, 4 but I'll admit that I'm a little biased.

>>58237820
>why does this matter
Because it's ass.

gen 4 is almost 2 decades old, gramps

>>58237343
3 = 2 > 1 > 4 assuming you’re only referring to the main game. If you’re referring to side content, it’s probably 4 > 3 > the rest.

>>58237946
no it isn't

>>58237792
>Broken neck because they couldn't fit the damn design in the sprite limitations despite the stiff ass body

They did more dynamic shit in Gen I than this

>>58238089
>curved neck
>undynamic
low iq and disingenuous

>>58237343
Gen 4 is nugen, but I'll play along
3>1>4>2 for the regions themselves. I like Hoenn a lot.
1>3>2>4 for the dex. Gen 1 will forever remain the best and truest form of pokemon.

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>>58237365
>>58237938
>>58237955
>Gen 3
fav
>Gen 4
least fav
>everything else
somewhere in between

>>58238219
your list suggests that's Hoenn

>>58237725
>shits on zoomers yet uses our lingo
Curious unc

>>58237725
Zoomers go all the way back to '97. Please don't lump us elder zoomers in with the younger ones who started with nugen games.
t. '99 zoomer who started with Stadium 1 on my N64.

For people who put sinnoh as one - why?

>>58237343
3>1>4>2.

I don't hate any of them for the record, i like that Hoenn was the "tropical" one before Alola and i like how it loops and usually gies shortcuts and options and with the early boatride a bit of a preview of to, Kanto is a classic for a reason with its looping design and options and (temporary) skippables, Sinnoh and Johto are fine, but they both feel a bit less coherent compared to the other two, i can't say i liked Sinnoh being a "cold" region either, but that's my own WARM GOOD bias.

>>58238477
Sinnoh is the most fun out of them to explore

>>58238472
you're all spiritually borts no matter the microgeneration, so far as has been seen

>>58237742
So did RBY, as long as you played it on any Game Boy besides the original Game Boy or the Pocket.

>>58238516
Unova is among my least favorite regions thoughbeit

Name one (1) reason Gen v isn’t considered old gen

Now

>>58237343
3>1>2>4

I admit I'm biased because Gen 3 was my first, but I need to be in the right mindset to play Gen 2/4.

>>58238657
It's not on a game boy

4>3>1>2

Honestly if it wasnt for the inclusion of Kanto, Johto would be remembered as a small and mediocre region. So Kanto is better by default. Yet at the same time Kanto itself is pretty lackluster. So it defaults to being worse than Hoenn and Sinnoh. Hoenn is a pretty interesting region, but Sinnoh was larger and felt like there was more to explore.

Leaf green
Diamond
Soul Silver
Ruby

>>58237343
2 > 1 > > > > > 3 > 4

Objectively

4>3>1>2

>>58238657
it's a mainline not based on Japan

2>>4>1>3

>>58238915
what exactly makes gen iv definitively superior to gen iii

>>58237343
Regions
3 > 4 > 1 > 2
Games
3 > 2 > 1 > 4
Generations
1 > 2 > 3 > 4
Anime
1 > 4 > 3 > 2
Adventures/Special
1 > 3 > 2 > 4

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Sinnoh destroys Kanto and Johto

>>58238935
Look at all that NOTHING

>>58238935
Sinnoh's journey through its region feels less coherent and tight than Kanto's. But at the sametime outside of just landmarks, Kanto journeying has way less sightseeing and scenic routes.

>>58237343
II > III = IV > I

I think Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh all have things I would wish for a perfect region to have but each also fall short due to lacking something the other regions have. Hoenn's has always been the clearest for me though and that's the disparity between how the first half (up to Norman) and the second half of the region are designed in terms of the route design.

>>58238935
what is the town above cerulean?

>>58237343
4>3>1>2

>>58237343
3>1=2>4

Loved Hoenn, it feels so big as only half of it is mandatory, excellent mon distribution, exotic feel with big routes and memorable cities and gyms. Peak region design.

Sinnoh in my mind takes Hoenn's formula and basically fails to live up to its standard (what's with the bright green everywhere?) and offer anything really new except a swamp and a snowy area with nothing of note in it (womp womp). Also has the worst mon distribution of any game, and making all the new evos unavailable until Platinum was a heinous crime. Also that Haunter trade was bs. Absolutely shite games.

>>58238921
Platinum mostly

I’m not trying to bait, genuinely curious why isn’t Gen IV considered nu Gen? Is it because it’s still based on Japan?

>>58239260
Youngsters looking for validation. Being the beginning of the wifi era is enough to disqualify it as old gen. Being nu gen doesn't even mean it's inherently bad, I actually quite like gen 4.

>>58239390
>Being the beginning of the wifi era is enough to disqualify it as old gen.
i have never ever heard anyone say this ever

1 > 2 > 3 > 4

>>58237343
Johto > Sinnoh > Unova; Gen 5 has more in common with oldgens than nugens, cry about it yawnie > Hoenn > Kanto

op’s a dumb hoennbab shitposter that keeps making these threads with the “unix timestamp - [insert region or pokemon]” filenames

>>58239504
Oh nooo not the Unix filed!
Dork

>>58239260
Because they grew up playing Gen 4 and want to convince themselves they belong in the cool kids club

>>58239260
As someone that has followed Pokemon since the Mania, Gen 4 is not nu gen and is closer to Gen 1 than any nu gen game. The best you could do is say that Gen 1 and 2 are the classic era and Gen 3, 4 and 5 are the middle stages. If you count Gen 3 to old Pokemon, Gen 4 should be there too because its basically the same game.

Sinnoh was just a bad region. The region being bifurcated by the mountain makes it a slog to traverse.

>>58237343
I will never accept Gen3 or Gen4 as "old"

>>58237343
1>>>>>>>>>>>2>>>>>tranny shit

>>58239603
in my mind there's been a handful of dividing moments in the series
starting in gen 3, regions were designed to be more standalone rather than expanding a single region, with larger new dexes and new pokemon being widely available (compared to johto feeling more like a direct sequel with new, but rare content)
gen 6 marks the mainline leap to 3D which imo does not look that bad for the 3ds, as well as the start of global releases
gen 8 obviously had dexit, which is huge on its own but was also the first "new region" title available after go (which was almost a second pokemania) that was more likely for normies who started with go to pick up than gen 7 (the switch was still somewhat common with normalfags from my experience). gen 7 is in a bit of a weird spot though since SM released after go, but wasn't influenced by the former's success since they both were being developed at the same time. but then you have let's go, which is literally designed to be a gateway to the main series for go newcomers

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The amount of distilled seethe by kalosperms ITT who desperately want to deflect from their shittass games by even going after gen 4 now and claiming gen 4 aren't part of the golden age is hilarious.

>>58238657
It's part of the golden era with gen 4 don't worry

>>58237350
Could switch 3 and 4 (I would personally) but this is still fair

>>58237865
Also fair breaking it down like this. But Hoenn as a region really does have too much water. If they did more with dive it would be peak

>>58237343
2 > 4 > 1 > 3

>>58240318
>as a region really does have too much water.
No it doesn't.

>>58239627
>>58239651
Gen II / Johto is the worst of the four. It singlehandedly killed Pokemania.

>>58239140
that doesn't explain anything, when for one it has a worse battle frontier and a laggier engine and a more imbalanced metagame

>>58239593
this also applies to gen 3

>>58241223
yes it does

>>58237453
This

>>58237343
2 > 1
Not sure why you tried to include 3 and 4 there

3>2=4>1
Hoenn wins because it's the most thematically cohesive. Yes, I even like the water routes.
They're all pretty good for what they're trying to convey.
Even Kanto is well-made, except for the weird eastern stretch between Lavender and Fuschia. Actually, I think the ghost tower in gen 4 and its surrounding area is an iteration on this weird stretch. All of Sinnoh feels like a remix from the best parts of its predecessors.

>>58239758
more of a golden shower than a golden era

>>58237343
3 > 2 > 1
4 is nugen

>>58237453
Objectively correct.

3 > 2 > 4 >1

>>58237343
3 > 1 > 2=4
First game was Red btw

>>58242233
Jokelow is the worst though

>>58242381
age matters more than order for oldgen

>>58242677
Played it on release, that's enough for you, dataminer.

>>58239115
I agree. Sinnoh was such a letdown compared to Hoenn, when it came out
>less interconnected region
>slower than Gen 3
>nuclear green grass everywhere
>blatant beta assets like the buildings
>blatant beta soundtrack that somehow made its way to the final production (ex. Victory Road)
>one boring evil team again with another retarded design and goal; at least Aqua/Magma had a fun rivalry and duality
>environments much more boring than Hoenn’s
>box legendaries were just a trio of ugly dragons with pressure instead of actual abilities that reflected their lore
>sublegend trio were just copypaste bootleg Mew with a different hat (all mono psychic with levitate)
>tiny dogshit dex where half of it is offloaded to picking up evolution items in the postgame
>selling point for DP at the time was being able to catch dexcut JOHTOOOOOO mons, but everyone and their mom at the time had already accrued the entire Johto dex from playing Colo/XD/Emerald during the delay period
I remember being baffled at the time that it was still so unfinished after they had postponed development for an entire extra year.

>>58243270
Also traits like
>151 regional dex
>Lucas and Dawn just being Red and Leaf again (something Sugi himself confirmed)
Reeked of creative bankruptcy and began to really cement what the franchise would turn into down the line.

>>58242381
Same ranking, but my first game was Blue.

>>58237343
2>3>1>4

someone should count 'em up

>>58243270
platinum fixes all of this

>>58237343
3 > 1 > 2 > 4
based on personal taste

>>58243270
Aqua/Magma are the worst villain teams in the whole series and the games actively suffered from having to have two villain teams. They couldn't even find the right balance in screentime, you fight Maxie three times and Archie once.

>>58245317
let's not forget how in RS the two teams are copy-paste with even the admins having identical dialogue

As a hoennbaby I find gen 3 overall the best if we're talking aboit unmodfied vanilla releases but HGSS is probably the best game up to that point but I feel counting that as gen 4 here is disingenuus. I grew up on Sinnoh games too but honestly trying to go back to Platinum I just find it so much harder to go through then FRLF/E/HGSS. Gen 2 is kind of rough to go back but not unplayable, gen 1 is honestly miserable to go back with how ridiculously limited learnsets are.

>>58237343
3 > 4 > 1 >>>> 2

Why is hoenn considered old Gen?

>>58246309
No idea, but everyone put it as early history.

>>58245291
>when it came out
>>58245317
team yell is worse by a landslide, if you even count it

>>58246409
Team Star is worse than Team Yell, and that's saying something.

>>58246464
as a genuine question what is your reasoning
star at least attempts to have a backstory even if it is just effectively the pokemon equivalent of columbine, where the ENTIRETY of yell has one single personality trait and that's simping over a 14 year old girl to a degree that impedes society, as well as being the shittiest red herring ever because "oh people liked team skull we gotta do that again but worse this time"

>>58246484
You just said it.
Team Skull was interesting because it was a bunch of delinquents trying to deal with the fact they feel they aren't "good enough" in the eyes of society. And their leader was just a dude going "fine, I'll lead. But just leave me alone."
Team Yell, while very simplistic, is adorable they try to cheer for the boss' little sister. Sure, is a bit much, but I don't mind roadblacks when I can get money out of them.
Team Star tried to pull out a Columbine, and they weren't even commited to it. It was a bunch of kids wearing the Spec Ed Helmet, playing hooky all over the region. And you were "contracted" by the principal to kick their asses and sent them back to school. You are literally the Hall Monitor with a lower paycheck. Sure, Penny stealing the money was cool, but she sucks as the main boss. Oh, she is the mean girl? Just go to her room, snatch her laptop, and recover the money.
Don't even pay me, just give me a gas mask with a hazmat suit, and I'll find it under the pile of used clothes stained in eeveelution nut. Easy.

Counting main releases only
3>1>2>>>4
Including 3rd versions, remakes and spin-offs
3>>1>4>>>2
Pokemon designs
1>>>>>>2>>>>>>>4=3
I want to rate Sinnoh higher, but the 15 legendaries bring it down
Gameplay improvement
3>2>4

>>58237343
Accurate. Though Kanto and Johto are about the same for me. I think Johto looks prettier, but I hate the Pokemon distribution in it. Though Kanto isn't great with its type distribution.