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>[new Pokémon thing] has started to grow on me
>[new Pokémon thing] already grew on me
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>>58244442
ever since I learned that "normal" people, unprompted and without special requirements, begin to like literally EVERYTHING they are exposed to over time has made me extremely misanthropic. It is the default human condition to accept whatever slop is fed to you and be undiscerning. It's disgusting.
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I pre-ordered the game and pre-ordered the dlc
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>>58244442
>absolutely every [new Pokemon thing] is horrible
>>absolutely every [new Pokemon thing] is irredeemable
now we're talking
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>>58244476
If you didn't like it when you first saw it then you should not be fucking loving it later.
>Verification is not required.
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>>58244442
Why are some people so quick to give up their old favorites in favor of new slop?
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>>58244495
this, you must follow your programming
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>>58244527
>conditioning does not happen
Post nose.
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>>58244442
>people can't change their opinions over time
Doesn't mean you're obligated to change your mind on everything either but it's silly to assume that every stance you take on any issue will remain fixed until you die.
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it's funny how this picture is always followed by the most dogshit retarded post you've ever seen
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>>58244476
tsmt
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>>58244475
>shartists are already drawing cope fanarts of them
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>>58244605
The reason for the change shouldn't be "I learned to ignore how bad it is".
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>>58245056
t. said "already grew on me" about every single thing from ZA
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>>58244466
>I MUST MAINTAIN MY NEGATIVE KNEEJERK REACTION TO NEW STIMULI FOREVER AND NEVER ADAPT TO ANYTHING EVER
sniveling autistic child mentality
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>>58245742
well we ARE on /vp/
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>>58245742
>millions of years of natural selection were wrong, this shit is *the shit* because society says so
Useful idiot.
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>>58245769
retard thought he made a coherent point
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>>58245738
nope
mega dragonite and victreebel are still ass, don't like how the game backtracked on everything good about PLA
keep crying though
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>>58245796
>don't like
so you're crying and yet you ask others to cry less?
do you not want them to cry louder than you or something?
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if we never learned we would not evolve as a species anon
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>>58245323
why does /vp/ act like a billion of joe merrik's when you criticize newer pokemon games at all i pretty much stopped caring after this trailer some megas are interesting while the rest are completely lazy
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>>58245781
It is coherent if English is your first language.
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>>58245918
>im losing
>they must be esl
I accept your concession
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>>58245769
millions of years of natural selection are why i can get used to new things while you wouldn't have survived an ice age winter because you didn't like the feeling of mammoth hide on your skin
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>>58245934
Point out the grammatical flaw, o wise one.
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>>58246004
It’s not the grammar you fucking idiot
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>>58246032
Point out the logical flaw, o wise one.
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>>58245866
That is not how evolution works. Evolution simply happens and you just have to deal with it. It's change for the sake of change. Natural selection happens because those with favorable changes gain an advantage.

You are thinking of human knowledge/science, which "evolves" by accumulation of experiences - trial and error, with the results memorized.

Many tribes were wiped out because their "well of knowledge" was poisoned and everyone just tolerated it until they drank enough to kill themselves. Sometimes it was an accident (lead was considered a sweetener during the Roman Empire), other times...

>>58245989
No, you would be the stupid monkey that ate all the bad berries then died.
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>>58246046
NTA but tolerance ≠ immunity.

Learning to ignore the bad taste of coffee will not make it less toxic, which is why you can only drink so much despite learning to love it and neutralizers are needed to enhance the flavor.
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>>58244442
Literally the only 2 Megas revealed for ZA so far that are even remotely good are Hawlucha and Delphox (coomers need not apply). Chenaught is ok, but the rest are absolute garbage.
Sadly a large part of /vp/ are themefags and absolutely love the designs probably made by AI for.
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>>58246173
This in relation to >>58245769
doesn't make any sense. It's very specifically claiming that listening to herd mentality is dumb, and that you should trust your gut instead.
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>>58246233
>my [tounge] tells me I shouldn't drink this
>but it's what all the other adults are doing!
>can I at least add sugar and cream to it?
>no, it less manly that way!
You either lack imagination or are being disingenuous.
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>>58246097
what
a lot of things change for change's sake
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now i'm trying to think of things that "grew on me" but most of them aren't even really new pokemon things, it's just me starting to like a shitmon i originally never gave a second thought to because i used one in a playthrough on a whim and ended up liking it
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>>58246271
Maybe. It's *a bit* more tasteful than the crap you usually post.
>Verification is not required.
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>>58246288
I am convinced you are not Shaun. But why are you imitating him?
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>>58246288
i did not mention cynthia anywhere
and if it were cheryl, yes
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>>58246312
That *is* kinda hot.
>Verification is not required.
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>>58246260
this seems so off-base as to be trolling. Let's go from the top.
Statement 1; original post responding to OP, likely irrelevant here
>Ever since I learned normal people like things if they're exposed to it more because of a psychological hangup I have been disgusted.
Statement 2: mocking reply, likely irrelevant here
>Oh you think that since normal people are psychologically predisposed to like things they're exposed to, that that's BAD? Yeah well that just means you're a sniveling autistic manchild who's unwilling to change opinions.
Statement 3: Another anon chiming in with a separate point, first relevant post in the chain seemingly
>We're genetically predisposed to believe certain things and we should trust our instincts because peer pressure is often detrimental.
Statements 4 - 9: ad hominem back and forth
>ends on "Point out the logical flaw"
Statement 10: Presumably your first post
>Tolerance != immunity. If something is bad for you inherently, you won't be able to stomach it for long, even if you like it, genuinely. (not true btw)
Statement 11 (me): Did you not understand Statement 3?
>Statement 3 is claiming that kneeling to peer pressure can hurt you, but you're saying that things that are natural can ALSO hurt you, so you should just... follow peer pressure? Do whatever you want? Seems like a non-point.
Statement 12: Clarification
>When I said statement 10, what I meant was that you're naturally genetically predisposed to believe certain things and we should trust our instincts because peer pressure is often detrimental.
Statement 13: My newest response
>see below
That is LITERALLY statement 3, I copied and pasted it because you changed what you said to mean something identical to what you were disagreeing with, now...
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>>58246324
>>Statement 3 is claiming that kneeling to peer pressure can hurt you, but you're saying that things that are natural can ALSO hurt you, so you should just... follow peer pressure? Do whatever you want? Seems like a non-point.
It's a dialogue, retard.
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>>58244442
me when someone says plass is le step in the right direction
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>>58246380
>It's a dialogue, retard.
go ahead and explain because clearly your mind is on another plane to make deciphering your intent such a pain
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>>58245742
>>58245918
>>58246004
>>58246046
>>58246233
>>58246324
>>58246501
midwit
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>>58247072
Ermm coffee is bad for you and being conditioned to like something psychologically is GOOD actually!
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>>58247095
You are a complete imbecile using whatever brain power it can gather to make "witty" replies.
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>>58247112
It seems to me like there's some fundamental miscommunication that hasn't been addressed. I gave a genuine attempt at reconciling it, but you gave a vague and confusing quip which made me believe that the entire duration of this thread you have been trolling. The main crux of the situation is this:
>Point A (>>58245769) is that one should trust their gut instincts instead of listening to peer pressure
No confusion here, right? To be clear, this was not me, and I only posted responding to you because I felt like I understood this and felt that you did not.
>Point B (>>58246173) is that someone can change their opinion organically but still be unable to change their base nature
(mirroring my previous analysis of your post, which was "Tolerance != immunity. If something is bad for you inherently, you won't be able to stomach it for long, even if you like it, genuinely." I rewrote it hear without reading my previous analysis in an attempt to ensure I understood your point, restating it in a different way.)
>Point C (>>58246233) is that I don't believe the two are congruent or even related; "Don't change based on peer pressure" being "refuted" by "You can change your opinion, but you can't change your innate preferences/stance/whatever"
I find it a self-defeating point. It seems strange to say "No no, don't trust your gut over public opinion, you can change your opinion over time but also something might be innately incompatible with your status." It seems incompatible. Again, like you didn't understand the statement.
>Point D (>>58246260) is that your default will guide you regardless of peer pressure.
I've said this several times now: This makes no sense based on your previous post.
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You have not even attempted to resolve this basal imbalance, instead resorting to the same "witty replies" you accuse me of relying on. You are not conveying your point in an articulate and critical fashion, and that is not conducive to being taken seriously.
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>>58246173
look its that stickfigure webcomic faggot that thinks everyone has the same tastebuds
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>>58247392
Who?
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>>58247399
xkcd
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>>58247403
oh right
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>>58247417
Im actually sorry to remind you of his existence
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>>58247421
It's ok, I laugh every time I remember him doing a big fat "I'M WITH HER" comic right after telling people why he'd never make political comics.
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>>58247421
>>58247458
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>>58247480
please
no more...
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>>58247392
Coffee is just an example, idiot. Non-retards understood that the "bad taste" meant the bitterness and that bitterness is a sign of toxicity. I needed a well-known bitter food/drink, so what better than coffee? It also worked (again, for non-retards) because many can't drink it "black". Coffee is also a good example because it can be used a drug that is beneficial to society while detrimental to the individual (i.e. people drinking awful coffee just to stay awake).

This was obvious to everyone else. Idiot.
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>>58244442
I was one of the biggest mega haters but with the new ones I almost think I... missed them?
I think it's just because it's the best battle gimmick in the series, so after years of these uninspired boring gimmicks it was nice see them return.
I'll probably go back to hating on them once the novelty wears off.
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>>58247529
>starting to like megas because of the new ones
You definitely have brain problems. Chesnaught is the only one that hasn't been awful.
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>>58247522
lot of text to just say
>I am a huge faggot that has never gone outside
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>>58247564
midwit
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>>58247566
embarassing
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>>58247568
midwit
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>>58247566
no wit
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>>58247522
Why did you reply to someone goading you on instead of my specific list of points with clarification?

Regardless, looking at this post with your new, specific meaning, it becomes:
>>58246173
>Learning to ignore the toxicity of those around you doesn't make it any less toxic, which is why you can only imbibe so much despite learning to appreciate it, and you end up needing to alter it anyway.
In response to
>>58245769
>Your trust in your own judgement and tastes shouldn't be altered by society's preferences
Still doesn't make sense. Bonus: your clarification further divorces your follow-up from your follow-up post:
>>58246260
>the toxicity of this stuff should not be accepted just because other people are pushing it
He claims
>peer pressure bad
you say he's wrong, saying
>peer pressure bad but you can end up liking what they push on you but not for long
and when pushed for clarifcation pivot and say
>no I said peer pressure bad but you can change it
Just completely incoherent.

>This was obvious to everyone else. Idiot.
I don't think so, I figure there would have been some people yapping at me about how stupid I was if it was really, truly so obvious... I have no delusions that my behavior has been anything more than sophomoric, so SURELY if someone were to see your posts as coherent and reasonable they'd have called me a twat and a doofus by now. But no, just you.
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>>58247566
sad!
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I suggest everyone itt to go drink their juice and take a nap
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>>58247578
holy shit, you didn't have to RAPE him in front of us like that
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>>58247583
can I have a beer? some german guy convinced me to buy this lemon beer and it actually was fucking delicious
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>least obvious samefag
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>>58244442
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1000 hours in mspaint
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>>58247577
Nothing else needs to be said. You are exactly what >>58247112 described. Nothing more.

>>58247578
>SURELY if someone were to see your posts as coherent and reasonable they'd have called me a twat and a doofus by now. But no, just you.
That is exactly what happened. This all started because two people agreed that you are an idiot and you are making it everyone's problem.
>Verification is not required.
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>>58247590
That does sound pretty good but only one
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>>58247603
nice
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>>58247544
Hawlucha?
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>>58247614
isn't it kinda bad to be a single stage mon with a mega, since the stats will still be lower than three stagers with a mega? he does look fantastic.
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Pokopium
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>>58247600
>That is exactly what happened. This all started because two people agreed that you are an idiot and you are making it everyone's problem.
literally who??? You're the only person who's responded to me, pretty much. Here:
>>58245918
my first post itt
>>58246004
this and
>>58246046
this are because I thought you genuinely were making no sense
>>58246233
My first post pointing out the incongruence
>>58246324
I give you the benefit of the doubt and attempt to reframe everything in a sensible manner
>>58246501
Frustration at you giving a non-reply to my post
>>58247095
mocking you for clearly trolling by mass replying to me instead of addressing a simple question

1/2 because filter won't let me post with too many (You)s
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>>58247663

2/2

>>58247365
me attempting to break down the conversation for you AGAIN because I still can't tell if you're trolling or stupid.
>>58247399
this and
>>58247417
and
>>58247458
this because the other guy replied, and I wasn't sure if I was arguing with a schizo who went under my nose.
>>58247578
My most recent list of complaints with your illogical statements, going from top to bottom explaining precisely WHY it makes no sense.
>(You) are here
This is EVERY SINGLE post I made in this thread. Of them, it's just been you arguing with me. Every single one.
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Nobody will give you a satisfactory answer because your train of thought is too bizarre. If this isn't an elaborate troll, it means you are mentally challenged and trying to reason with you is just a waste of time.
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>>58247732
If you somehow didn't get that: we don't make sense to you and you don't make sense to us.
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>>58246273
It makes sense to not like something that you haven't even considered before. OP is a reaction to >>58247598, "people" that accept/defend anything & everything from TPC. The problem with them isn't that they like things but that they don't let anything be disliked. It's toxic positivity.
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>>58244466
>ever since I learned that [thing that isn't true at all]
okay stay misanthropic and alone, Mr. Retardo
>>58244442
yes OP some people don't like things at first because they are new and different, but become used to its differences with time. sometimes these same people don't like things at first and DON'T change their mind because whatever they disliked is still too major of a characteristic even with time. both of these are supposed to happen to healthy brains pretty frequently and you should know this since like age 6.
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>>58248000
Read the post above yours.
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>>58247365
what i don't get is i ( >>58245742, my only post in the thread besides
>>58245989 ) seemingly started this bizarre argument that appears to be entirely based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what i said in the first place - that letting a negative first impression completely override your ability to form a nuanced opinion after acclimating to something new is extremely childish and, sincerely, autistic behavior.
to be honest most of what has been said after that makes almost no sense to me, the plot has been completely lost.
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>OP: obviously talking about all the awful news
>literal autists: WHY DO YOU HATE EVERYTHING
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>>58244442
Took a while be gardevoir is starting to grow on me now that the dust has settled
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>>58248108
the news isn't awful though, the game looks fine and all the megas revealed so far range from "really good" to like, "kinda mid." the only way to construe anything announced thus far as bad is to have a kneejerk reaction to something unexpected and then completely refuse to analyze your feelings further to filter out pointless biases.
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>>58248108
what awful news
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Thanks for proving >>58247973 right.
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>Nobody should ever have developing taste or opinions
>How you feel about something the first time should be the only way you feel about it forever
Loser missed a step in his development lmao
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>>58248135
what awful news
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>>58248130
>>58248217
>yet another lazy GF release with bad graphics
>Mega Dragonite exists
>Mega Victreebel exists
>Shitpig instead of Typhlosion because they couldn't keep their shitty rapefics inside their shitty brains
>gen 6 megas are FOMO locked behind competitive, they won't be obtainable AT ALL once the game shuts down 3 years from now
>DLC announced before the game even releases
>Switch 1 game which means no special care will be made for the Switch 2 besides framerate and it will run like ass on the Switch 1
>Pikachu gets 2 megas, Raichu gets fucked by GF again
>your favorite Pokemon can still get ruined by a mega because they haven't revealed all of them yet
>GF succeeded in getting YET ANOTHER shitty troll patent in the US just to fuck over better games like Palworld
>millions of NPC retard TCG hoarding consumerists and Thomas the Tank Engine autists will STILL buy it anyway
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>>58248256
>Shitpig instead of Typhlosion because they couldn't keep their shitty rapefics inside their shitty brains
Stopped reading here. Go back.
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>>58247732
>Nobody will give you a satisfactory answer because your train of thought is too bizarre.
The beauty of this is that I don't know if you're talking to me or him (or if you are him). The truth of the matter is: Coffee coffee coffee, what do you mean you don't understand why coffee proves you wrong? So anyways yeah I declare victory over the coffee schizo
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>>58248000
>>ever since I learned that [thing that isn't true at all]
it is true, look it up
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>>58248256
and there's the schizoposting on cue
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>>58248094
the funniest thing is that I wasn't even arguing for or against a stance, purely that the guy who started yapping about coffee was making no sense
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>>58248295
yea i gotta say anon, this is truly up there with the strangest threads i've seen on this board, and i've been here a loooooong time
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>>58247592
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>>58247973
>>58247598
I wanna say they are paid shills but that is giving these shitstains too much credit.
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gamefreak could make a new pokemon that's just a photorealistic model of a pile of feces with googly eyes and there would be legions of people insisting that it's a genius, subversive design and significantly better than anything a fakemon artist can create
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>>58248451
Are you a fakemon artist?
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>>58248470
no but I've seen actually good designs be shat on by people defending shitters like eiscue in the same post
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The whole anglosphere is probably full of uneducated brainwashed fucks screeching at each other.
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>>58248474
The "it's okay when Game Freak does it" fuckers are the worst.
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frigibax has grown on me
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>>58244442
is she okay
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>>58248280
>Go back.
Not until I get a written apology from GF and an acknowledgement that Cyndaquil will be in Z-A as a starter instead of Shitpig and that Typhlosion will have a mega evolution.
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>>58244442
>I have the same tastes as I did when I was 5
Self report thread. And I say that as someone who's favorite movie has been Godzilla Vs. Destroyah since 3 years old.
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Everyone that desperately wants OP to be a psychopathic manchild with no taste is just butthurt about being called out.



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