>Defend this
People transfer Pokemon? Why? The whole fun of new Pokemon games is being able to assemble a whole new team.
>you can't transfer mons from XY to BWok>you can't transfer mons from ZA to SVWHAT
>>58246291>People transfer Pokemon? Why?Believe it or not, there's more to Pokemon than being a campaignshitter who plays for a few hours through the dogpiss easy storymode and drops it forever. Having hundreds of max IV and EV trained mons helps in the only part of the game that matters!!!>>58246293That was before ShartFreak launched their new platform that promised to bridge all future generations together. That was the entire pitch of Pokemon Home, and coping like this is either pathetic sharty-level trolling or retardation.
ZA new gen confirmed
>>58246289I can't. But the realistic answer for what's happening here is that they're obviously overhauling the stat system starting with LZA and Champions to such an extreme degree that it requires a "forward, no backwards" with Gens 8-9, given the conspicuous lack of IVs between both games from what we know thus far.
>>58246291>He thinks people transfer Pokemon for ingame playthroughs
>>58246291you're right but also it's cool to bring old friends to new places, i just use a new team for the campaign and move old mons in for the postgame
This will look kinda weird if you can transfer back from Gen 10 to 9 but whatever
>>58246291To transfer their VGC-relevant mons to new games, since there's no other way to bring them into said games without trading with someone else who transferred, instead.For example, there's a lot of Pokemon from Legends: Arceus who can only be obtained in Legends: Arceus who are very viable in SV's VGC metagames, so the only way you're getting them in that game is through some method that involves transfer.
>>58246289I can't
>>58246293You can transfer from SV back to PLA, BDSP, SWSH and LGPE, assuming the Pokémon in question is in the game you're trying to transfer to. It seems weird that you can't do it from ZA to the other games. Only thing I can think of is the different battle system.
>>58246289Latin American Spanish language in pokemon home being added
>>58246322I do that all the time.
>>58246419don't they ignore you until you have all the badges
>>58246432I'm not who you responded to
>>58246303They never promised to do that in the slightest, you retarded little monkey. All they claimed was somewhere to keep your collection.>/vp/ try not to be disingenuous niggers challenge tier impossible
>>58246332I'm fully expecting being able to pass pokés between L: Z-A, Gen 10 and Gen 11. I mean, they passed shit among gen 8 and 9 on Switch, why not 10 and 11 on Switch 2?
>>58246432Yeah. You also need to wait 6 mths after launch to do so (or act the povvo and not buy until connectivity's set up).
>>58246334>For example, there's a lot of Pokemon from Legends: Arceus who can only be obtained in Legends: Arceus who are very viable in SV's VGC metagamesTry telling that to the niggers who use Inshiteroar and Rillacuck.
>>58246293You can transfer Pokemon from Gen 9 to Gen 8, I thought the point of HOME as a service was to unify all games and make it able to trade between them at will.If not, what the fuck is this shitty service I'm paying for?
>>58246289Sorry I can't.....
>>58246460>They never promised to do that in the slightest"With Pokemon Home, we aim to leave behind the boundaries of a single system and allow players to connect with Pokemon Bank, Pokemon: Let's Go Pikachu! and Let's Go Eevee!, the upcoming Pokemon Sword and Pokemon Shield games, and also Pokemon Go. And we will take great care to perserve the value that each of these Pokemon have to their trainers, and in the future the content which you can play with your Pokemon will continue to expand even further."This is directly from the REVEAL of Home on May 29th 2019. By refusing backwards compatibility from ZA, the content accessible to you SHRINKS. You are DENIED from playing content with your Pokemon that you previously had access to. Home was made to futureproof the transfer of Pokemon and yet they've clearly backpedalled.Now begin you cope so everyone in this thread can laugh at your cocksucking. Dance, monkey, DANCE!
>>58246289Defend it yourself you lazy cunt
>>58246637You're dancing enough for me, seeing as you're hopping mad over it, while I entered assuming Generational separation, like EVERY game they fucking released to-date. Guess what numbnuts? I've seen value in just having a storage space for my shit, being able to rules-lawyer trade evos for the shiny myths was nice, but at the same point, the internet is mature, so it wouldn't have been hard to get what I needed if I needed it. I'll even go as far as predict L: Z-A, Gen 10 and Gen 11 WILL be inter-compatible on S2 and this is Game Freak politely but firmly telling cunts to pony up for the next model, as Switch will no longer be supported after this (Gen 10's developed exclusively for S2). What better way than locking L: Z-A pokés to Gen 10 architecture? You supported their bullshit for a LONG lock of years and you were part of the target demographic to boot (I never once was). You only have yourself to blame, you did more damage than me just buying their games every so often.
>>58246637>May 29th 2019It only took 6 years to backpedal on this
>>58246289Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet were absolute garbage, so I don't feel anything different about this news than I did when you couldn't transfer backwards from gen 8 to 7.
>>58246637https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXht78qQ1E8A company built on backstabbing users whenever they want
>>58246289Gen 8 dexit made bothering to transfer from gen 7 to gen 8 pointless and irreversible.We will be able to have all pokemon in Go before we can ever have all pokemon in a mainline game again.May all console pokemon become spin-off slop and let Champions take over.
>>58246289I blame the additional languages.
ZA is completely changing how Pokemon works, so it makes sense.
>>58246410>>58248281This sounds like the most plausible and logical explanation, however, shouldn't the past games be updated to allow this compatibility?
>>58246293>problem exists>fix problem>cause problem again after previously fixing problem>people bend over backwards to defend this
>>58246293BW didn't set the precedent or have systems already in place that allowed transferring backwards. Home does
>>58246406>LGPEYou can't actually. Only pokémon originated from LGPE itself can go to LGPE, and only if they haven't been transferred to any other game besides LGPE and HOME.So it's kinda similar to ZA, but in the opposite direction.
>>58246291>The whole fun of new Pokemon games is being able to assemble a whole new team.Actually the fun of the monster collection game is being able to expand my monster collection.Trapping any part of said collection in one game is annoying, especially since they won't put all of them in any one game anymore.
>>58246291I like collecting ribbons, I have a couple Pokemon transferred up from the GBA games with all or most available ribbons
>>58246289I think that they are going to do something that would result in something illegal if transferred back. Maybe something new with EV/IV, a 5th move slot, or something else. Whatever it is, there's going to be a new value that would result in in the pokemon having some extra data that past games can't understand.
>>58246410It's thisSame reason Pokémon Bank was split between Gen 6 and Gen 7, because the latter had Chinese and the former didn't
>>58246432Different anon but I send some pokemon on a variety of levels not just my 100's and I teach them decent reusable TM's if I can. Pic is a possible example.
>Caring about collecting post dexit.Half your shit can't come and the half that can gets its moves wiped.
>>58248382I don't think they ever updated compatibilities with past games.
>>58249142They never have. People famously bitched about XY not being updated to include ORAS Megas and Hoopa Unbound despite the 3DS having that kind of update potential in its games, and then it happened again with SM and USUM.
>>58246291And transferring used to give you more options before dexit
>>58246289This may be because of the way EVs are changing in Champions to have 2 extra points. I assume this change is also in ZA making mons incompatible to transfer to older titles because of having too many EVs for those games.
>>58249233IVs also seem to be absent too, and while it initially seemed they'd just be set to all-31s by default, this "can't go back to older games" factor makes me think they're being totally removed in favor of Pokemon individuality using a new system that isn't tied to stats.
>>58249238IVs are apparently still in ZA. The assumption is everything is just set to 31 while they are in Champions.
>>58246289That cant be a 2025 game screenshot
>>58246289>>Pokémon transferred from "Pokémon Home" to "Pokémon Legends: Z-A" will be locked to both titles and the upcoming "Pokémon Champions". Therefore it gives the incentives for the trainers to choose wisely, as they can't be transfered back to the title of origin (Pokémon Scarlet, Pokémon Sword, Pokémon Legends Arceus, etc.) once they transfered to future titles.
>>58249825Nb4 new Pokémon storage oFor switch 2.
HOME was the solution to this problem. Game Freak just got around it by completely reworking the entire gameplay from the ground up. Base stats, EVs and IVswill no longer function the same.
>>58246289Gen 9 and 8 fixes this>Huh actually now you can't transfer back againWasn't the whole point of home to solve this?
>>58246410Wait where'd they announce this?
>>58248624Huh? But it let me move my PLA Gyarados in.
>>58248985If that were the case then couldn't they just have a separate folder for the extra data that stores it when the Pokémon is moved into a game without that data?
>>58250280Probably because PLA doesn't have abilities
>>58246289Why would you ever want to transfer pokemon to an older game for? Just play the new game
>>58250459>Why would you ever want to transfer pokemon to an older game for?Before the reset mochi was available your only non-cbt option of resetting EVs on pokemon in Gen 9 was to send them back to SwSh for the Isle of Armor npc
>>58250280That's not possible bruv, you must be mistaken
Pokemon Home paypigs deserve suffering
>>58249233This could easily be adapted to the current system by making the 2 leftover EVs count as 1 stat or simply raising the EV cap by 2 points. If it's a stat system change causing incompatibility, it's something much bigger.
>>58246293ZA & SV are the same Generation. XY to BW being impossible is expected at that time.That being said the one upside to this is that they'll be forced to include Hisui crossgens in Gen 10, since there's no way to slap Pokemon caught in Gen 10 back to Hisui, but there is a way to do that for Paldea mons. Granted, this is replacing incompetence with incompetence, a staple of this franchise.
>>58246574this is why you should only use the free single box. Never trust scamfreak.
I don't take Pokemon games seriously enough to care about transferring them between games, never have cared. I start each game fresh with new Pokemon, complete the game, and play any post-game content that interests me.So, yeah, Pokemon Home was never valuable to me in the first place.
